Gross. St. Louis Post-Dispatch Defends Deadly Knock-Out Game as a Spirit of the Times

A new low for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch?

In April an elderly man was attacked by a mob of black youths playing “the knock out game” while walking home from the grocery store with his wife. They killed him.

In June a group of black youths beat a gay man bloody playing “the knock out game.”

In August black teen mobs targeted St. Louis cyclists in the knock out game.

In September, a 73-year-old man was knocked unconscious just outside of Tower Grove Park.

In October St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay was the first person on the scene on after a local man was beat unconscious by a mob of teens. The youths were “playing” the “knock out” game. The victim’s jaw was shattered and needed to be wired shut. There were several broken bones on his face.

Today the St. Louis Post-Dispatch defended the violent practice by black youths saying it is “just a spirit of the times.”
The Post-Dispatch reported:

It’s hard to judge how bad a problem the so-called “knockout game” really is. But because it has resulted in the death of 72-year-old man, left at least a half a dozen other people injured and reinforced fears about the safety of city neighborhoods, it’s bad enough.

Roving bands of teenagers slugging people just for the hell of it? That takes us into “A Clockwork Orange” territory.

Then you’ve got the city’s mayor and his police bodyguard happening upon one victim lying on a sidewalk outside a public library branch and the mayor suggesting that 13- and 14-year-old kids arrested for the crime be charged as adults.

You’ve got a police captain talking about a “trend of sub-human behavior [that] defies predictive analysis because the attacks happen in different places, on different days and at different times.”

In the last 15 months, police said, seven such attacks have taken place in neighborhoods around Tower Grove Park and South Grand…

…Reporter Denise Hollinshed of the Post-Dispatch talked to some kids outside of Roosevelt High School, one of whom acknowledged that he’d taken part in the “knockout king” game.

“Knockout king is a thrill,” the kid told her. “It makes you want to keep doing it every day.”

Sure, the kid said, he knew he could hurt somebody. But he added, “You don’t know them, so why care about hurting them?”

That’s a chilling statement. It reflects an almost sociopathic lack of empathy.

On the other hand, the more you think about it, it perfectly captures today’s zeitgeist, the spirit of the times.

Why not foreclose on homes without giving the homeowners a chance to work out their mortgages? Why not let 50 million people go without health insurance? Why not tilt the table so all the money runs down to one end? You don’t know them, so why care about hurting them?

It’s not like you punched them in the head.

Did you catch that? If you oppose Obamacare (71% of Missouri voters oppose Obamacare) than you’re no better than a violent street thug.

The Post-Dispatch needs to follow-up with an apology after excusing this street violence. What a horrible editorial.
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  • greenfairie

    I don’t think this stupid piece was so much excusing the knockout game as it was making an offensive analogy to the lack of guaranteeing housing, wealth, and health insurance (i.e. no socialism = street thugs beating people at random). The Compost-Dogpatch still needs to make an apology.

  • FedUp

    Another reason to promte concealed carry!

  • Mad Hatter

    The Post Disgrace is only doing this to excuse off the action of the children of diversity. One thing I’ve learned after I opened my eyes (which was 16 years ago) is that the Alinsky Media will never criticize minorities that committee crimes. Instead, they will protect them with layers on top of layers of excuses, or just ignore the repeat pattern of criminal behavior.

    This story comes as no surprise.

  • Glenn

    The Dispatch needs to apologize to the gangs for comparing them to capitalists!

  • Jayne on the Left Coast

    Notice no comments allowed for this article. Post doesn’t want to hear for the citizens.

  • In excess

    Can I get the address of the Editorial Board members? I’d like to exercize my Spririt of the Times on their face!
    Not only would they run from my ‘celebration’, they prove how cowardly they are by not even accepting comments on the article. WTF?!

  • Esspresso Logic – The 6th Sense

    Aw jeez.

  • Texas_Treeroach

    “a lack of recreational opportunities and quality education programs”?
    “it perfectly captures today’s zeitgeist, the spirit of the times.”?

    The Entitlement Train meets the Washington University School of Journalism Express.

    Zeitgeist my As-terisk!!

    The Zeitgeist movement and the Occupy movement are joined at the hip — more social “nudging” from the left side of Academiana, infecting the newsrooms of places like the Post-Dispatch.

    What has happened to St. Louis, anyway?!?

    When you had a choice of rags (i.e., the Globe-Democrat) there was at least some journalistic / political balance (Pat Buchanann, et al).

    Now look what you’ve got: Zeitgeist
    What a joke.

  • Gideon Reed

    Ah yes. The Spirit of the Times. A time wherein the general population has deduced that the Criminal Justice is peopled by criminals and that there is precious litle justice. Where the general
    duty of the police services across the country NOT to protect, but rather to record on a bureaucratic forms a stilted and jargon filled report of what is “alleged” to have occured. The mainstream rumor mongers then shape and craft the occurance to meet their preconcieved beliefs and political predispositions.
    A sign of the times.
    Well howzabout this for a sign?
    In the near future some fun loving youngsters; with their drawers around their ass and hoods up, play “The Knockout Game”, and select the tall elderly gentleman, with the slow pace and white hair.
    They come upon him fast, their footfalls slapping the pavement. The elderly fellow turns and absorbs the event about to befall him. He has determined that there is no police presence to protest him, less make any effort to serve.
    He pushes his wife of 50+ years to the side and draws his 1911 .45acp
    Goverment model from the custom made holster; that comfortable place he has worn it for more than fifty years, and sends the first five of his attackers spinning into Hell, and another two to wheelchairs for the rest of their lives. Mag change and a view of the remainder running with filled underpants. He and his wife are safe no thanks to the wastefull frittering of most police entities and has decided that he is primarily responsible for his own safety, and taken appropriate action to ensure it.
    A sign of the times coming to a “Live at 5 News Show” near you, sooner than you think.

  • NeoKong

    Why not foreclose on homes without giving the homeowners a chance to work out their mortgages? Why not let 50 million people go without health insurance? Why not tilt the table so all the money runs down to one end? You don’t know them, so why care about hurting them?

    Why not make millions of other hard working people pay for the broken families, the drug use ,the lack of education and upbringing and the poor choices that some people make ? You don’t know them, so why care about hurting them?

  • mg4us

    the publisher of the Post-Dispatch should take a stroll down and be the victim of the “knock-out” game and then tell us what he thinks.

    Sick idiot. .

    time to take our country back from these low-life lefties in the media!

  • Mr. X.

    Everything is always something else in a privileged liberal’s mind (especially when it comes to the topic of minorities). Guilt, self absorption and too much poetry parsing at university has pretty much put an end to that antiquated notion of truth and replaced it with non-judgmental relativism.

    “ooh, ooh, professor, how about this: it wasn’t the housing crisis or the health care that made them do it, it was the delays and set backs at the Large Hadron Collider?”.

    “That’s very good Montana, I never thought about that but it’s a very interesting interpretation. Keep up the good work”.

  • iamsaved

    Maybe these hooligans need to come up against a person legally carrying a concealed weapon who can and will use it and add to their joy of “just having a bit of fun”. It used to be called assault and battery back in the day.

    Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

  • jimg

    Shooting violent thugs in the back of the head.

    Why, it’s just a sign of the times, right?

  • Stuart

    The editor of the Post Dispatch is obviously a liberal. Which is to say he hasn’t been mugged yet.
    Hey! any of you kids out there want to create a conservative?
    What, you object to that statement?
    Kind of frightening when the violence is aimed in your direction, right pal.

  • dwd

    The St. Louis Post Dispatch was already a disgrace, and this just confirms it.

    In a civilized society, you obey laws, such as laws against attacking and killing others, whether you know them or now.

    When you take out a loan, you are agreeing to pay it back, and if you don’t then you have no right to whatever property you took out the loan to purchase. You haven’t paid for it yet, it’s not yours. The bank bought it, and you are buying it from the bank.

    There’s no connection between the two, other than: if you violate the law by attacking/killing other people you suffer the consequences, and if you violate your loan agreement you suffer the consequences.

    And health insurance?! Can’t wait for the Post Dispatch to argue that the way to mitigate the knockout game is to give everyone free health insurance. If you have health insurance, then strangers can attack you whenever they want, because then you can go get fixed up when they’re done brutalizing you!

  • JoyO

    These are clearly HATE CRIMES! And, Obamacare is a socialist program based on the European model …and we can see where Europe is today. Implosion is imminent!

  • buttinsky

    I also went to post a comment and found they had been disabled. I was offended by that.

  • Carbon Pootprint

    So why not put Progressive traitors on trial for economic terrorism and then hang all of them? I don’t know most of them personally. I like this Progressive apple orange game, get some rope, a lot of rope.

  • pst314

    No, the Saint Louis Post Dispatch did not defend or excuse the barbaric knock out game. The article merely quoted child savages who defended the game. The article characterized the “game” as “Clockwork Orange territory”.

  • texas

    This is disgusting! It’s a sad day in America when hate crimes become “the spirit of the times”.

    My example: In the 90’s my daughter and I had a gun pulled on us from a crazed person in the next car at a stop light. He was pointing the gun at us and screaming racial slurs. It was 4 o’clock in the afternoon. I just gunned the engine and jumped the curb and drove off through someone’s yard to get away. When I reported the incident to the police and they said “It sounded like the reports they’d been getting re: gang initiation shootings” and “that’s the way it is these days”. The “that’s the way it is these days” attitude is a real shocker to hear when you are the potential victim. How did our society ever get to this point? I just pray that the dude with the gun never accomplished his gang initiation goal. sigh.

  • Ohio Granny

    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
    John Adams quotes

  • progressoverpeace

    Did you catch that? If you oppose Obamacare (71% of Missouri voters oppose Obamacare) than you’re no better than a violent street thug.

    I think it’s even more repulsive than that. This is the Post-Disgust using the animals as cultural shock troops. They are saying that street thugs committing random violence are no worse than anyone enforcing willingly entered contractual obligations on responsible parties. They’ve managed to mangle all of Western civilization in a few little paragraphs.

  • Freddy

    … by this reporters thinking …

    If your old and you see a gang comming your way, why not open up with a gun and see how many you can kill?

  • J. Knight

    First of all, I wasn’t aware that it was the policy of any bank/mortgage company to foreclose on someone’s home without giving that person a chance to make arrangements to pay. The facts are that these folks were given numerous opportunities to pay. They either couldn’t or wouldn’t pay. Either way, whatever entity holds the mortgage is required by law or regulation to foreclose. One would think someone who writes editorials for a major newspaper would know these facts, but the average reporter/writer has little if any education these days. Regardless, they still have an obligation to educate themselves. There is no need for them to stay stupid.

    As for health insurance, what’s their point? These genuises obviously haven’t heard of Medicaid and Medicare, and countless other programs run by cities, states and counties that guarantee medical care to the uninsured. See my statements above about how ignorant these reporters are.

    Bottom line-the reporters/writers/management at the St. Louis Post Dispatch are poodles for the Democrat Party. Why anyone would even give these lapdogs the time of day is beyond me.

  • Skandia Recluse

    On the other hand, the more you think about it, it perfectly captures today’s zeitgeist, the spirit of the times

    Sounds like a very bitter point of view, if you are not getting what you want, why not. Don’t accept any responsibility, just blame someone else for your misery. It’s the perfect excuse.

    Another way to look at it is, ‘take it to zuccottii park’.
    You want your student loans forgiven, ‘take it to zuccottii park’.
    You want someone else to pay your mortgage, ‘take it to zuccottii park’.
    You want legalized marijuana, ‘take it to zuccottii park’.
    You want a free college degree, ‘take it to zuccottii park’.
    You want ‘affordable housing’, ‘take it to zuccottii park’
    You want ‘a living wage’, ‘take it to zuccottii park’.
    You want ‘equal pay’, ‘take it to zuccottii park’.
    You want a $20 minimum wage, ‘take it to zuccottii park’.
    You want to play the knock out game, ‘take it to zuccottii park’.
    You want…..
    you want…..
    You want….

    ‘take it to zuccottii park’.

  • if these thugs had been white they would be screaming that this was ‘hate’ crime…………………this is just another attempt to make excuses for young black thugs ……………………….rememeber the poor blacks are the pernalent victims…………..they are ones whom ancestors where slaves……………..whites owe it to them…………sat back and take your beating ‘whitey’……………………..

  • Peggy R

    I don’t think the STL PD is “excusing” this violence. They are saying, “Well, are these violent kids any different from the banks?” The STL PD editors have made an offensive, false equivalence. They’ve used the street violence to condemn the economic situation, blaming banks. No sense of logic or moral decency at play here.

  • Thomas Carney

    Try this in Virginia… you get shot. There were some black youths that tried to rob a college student who had a concealed-carry permit. One of the black youths had a gun. So did the student. The student shot the black youth with his gun. The round bounced off the black youth’s thigh bone and went through BOTH his testicles. That’s one robber who won’t be reproducing any more.

  • O : F

    We’ve had this in some swedish cities for a few years, sort of. Gangs of 10 – 12 year olds who throw stones at people, luckily I don’t live in such a neighborhood.

  • Liberty One

    Jim, if you were any more dense, even light wouldn’t be able to escape your
    gravitational pull.

    The article wasn’t “excusing” anything. It was pointing out that the kid saying ““You don’t know them, so why care about hurting them?” reflects “an almost sociopathic lack of empathy.”

    By referring to it as “the spirit of the times”, the author is saying that we live in a time where that sociapathic lack of caring is becoming the norm.

    I know you can’t stand the thought of anyone excusing a crime committed by blacks, but that is hardly the point of this article.

  • Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum

    Journ-O-list has returned. Just like ACORN, the reports of their demise were terribly exaggerated.

  • ExExZonie

    The article wasn’t “excusing” anything. It was pointing out that the kid saying ““You don’t know them, so why care about hurting them?” reflects “an almost sociopathic lack of empathy.”


    Gee, don’t go out on a limb there, “Liberty One.” This editorial is nothing short of dysfunctional, disgusting political correctness excusing common criminals.

    If they were so confident of their position, the P-D would have allowed comments. Cowards.

  • averagemelon

    Although your point is valid, you left out the reference to the “Occupiers” agenda in the article, hence the comparison.

    Want. Want. Want. We all have constant cravings. When are people going to understand it is merely part of being human? Why are entire populations imagining a life without want? This is so foolish it’s beyond reason.

  • It seemed to me that the writer of that piece was actually trying to do something called “journalism” at first. But then, near the end of the piece, from “on the other hand” onward, his left-wing nature kicked back in, resulting in that disgustingly false moral equivalency slop.

    Well, you can take the writers out of the leftie coffeehouse, but you can’t take the leftie coffeehouse out of the writers. They really just can’t help themselves.

  • Patty


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  • ohiochili

    Liberty One, take off your race-colored glasses and read it again, and this time with a little more comprehension.

    “Why not foreclose on homes without giving the homeowners a chance to work out their mortgages? Why not let 50 million people go without health insurance? Why not tilt the table so all the money runs down to one end? You don’t know them, so why care about hurting them?

    It’s not like you punched them in the head.”

    When the white kids join in, we’ll speak out against that, too.

    The writer wants to join OWS when he/she grows up.6

  • tilt the table so that all the money runs down to one end.” isn’t that the whole object of socialism?

  • do you think the Post-Dispatch’s editorial staff would think it okay if we played the knockout game on them?

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  • Bert

    If you must go downtown, legally carry a firemarm four your protection. And if you still subscribe to the Post-Dispatch, cancel it.

  • Molon Labe

    Let’s organize a kock out game with the editorial board of this newspaper!

  • buttinsky

    I have noticed that (coincidentally, I am sure) more and more liberal publications are switching to Facebook commenting only. I can only assume it is to stifle dissent before next year’s election.

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  • Eviva F

    I think these young sociopaths should spend some time rotting in jail but what the heck does the race of the thugs have to do with anything? You had to point it out four times?

    It’s stuff like this that liberals point to when accusing conservatives falsely of racism.

    If the race is relevant, bring it up. Otherwise leave it out.

  • Molon Labe


    Are you for real? Perhaps the race of these thugs isn’t a common denomitator? Perhaps you wouldn’t object so if they were all eskimos, whites, poles, or rugby players?

    But this smacks of another race card. Get help.

  • I am Legion

    Perhaps I may derive a bit too much gratification when the ‘paperboy’ offers the enticement of a free copy at the top of my driveway – whereupon I drive over it repeatedly until recycle day.

  • Mark S.

    I noticed their disclaimer at the bottom

    “Editor’s note: Because of the nature of some comments on earlier stories about the knockout game, user comments on this editorial have been closed.)”

    So wait a minute.. it’s perfectly fine for the editorial board to write something this horrendous, but the reader is not allowed to respond? The Dispatch is becoming MORE and MORE disgusting with each further article…

  • [email protected]

    Maybe the ante should be upped from the “Knock-out Game” to the “Shoot-out game.”

    Little Marxist journalists bobbing and weaving as they hide behind their computer screens would make for good target practice – just using BB’s only…….of course. 😉

  • ight back

    I don’t care any liberal, conservative, obama care or any political game but I just simply wanna shoot those “knockout game kids