Top AFRICOM Commander General Carter Ham Was Never Ordered to Save US Men in Benghazi (Video)

AFRICOM leader General Carter Ham was never given the order to secure the consulate in Benghazi. This is what the general told Rep. Jason Chaffetz after the 9-11 Benghazi terror attack.

That means only Barack Obama or Defense Secretary Panetta, the two men above the AFRICOM commander, never ordered an operation to secure the consulate. This was despite the many pleas for assistance coming from the consulate and annex.

The Obama Administration replaced General Carter Ham with General David Rodriguez at AFRICOM on October 18.

The US had troops in Sigonella, Italy – about an hour away on 9-11.
The attack went on for at least four hours but US forces were never called in.

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  • snap boy

    Does a president have to be impeached before being tried by a military tribunal for refusing to protect US territory from attack?

  • AZGal5759

    Okay, the next follow on question is “Why was he relieved then?” I think Chaffetz and Issa have a lot more info than we know and will be using against this administration very soon

  • Granny

    #1 October 28, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    snap boy commented:

    Does a president have to be impeached before being tried by a military tribunal for refusing to protect US territory from attack?
    _____

    A president cannot be tried by the military at all. Impeachment is the only option. Other than that, most actions that a president takes during his time in office are immune from prosecution.

  • Walt

    Obama is bad person. True scum.

  • Granny

    #2 October 28, 2012 at 2:41 pm
    AZGal5759 commented:

    Okay, the next follow on question is “Why was he relieved then?” I think Chaffetz and Issa have a lot more info than we know and will be using against this administration very soon
    ____

    “Rumor” has it that Ham was going to go send in troops on his own initiative and was relieved of his command for doing so by his second, who has now been appointed to that position (still not approved by the Senate). I am not clear as to whether he was sending in those Special Forces because he was tired of waiting for the GO or whether he was sending them in in direct violation of an order to stand down – seen both reports.

    At any rate, by all accounts Ham is a highly experienced officer with lots of knowledge of Africa and that the replacement has 6 months or so experience in the Afghanistan “surge.” Not promising.

    A Navy Admiral who is in charge of a carrier group in the Gulf has also been relieved of command . . .

  • noway

    Granny commented:

    #1 October 28, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    snap boy commented:

    Does a president have to be impeached before being tried by a military tribunal for refusing to protect US territory from attack?
    _____

    A president cannot be tried by the military at all. Impeachment is the only option. Other than that, most actions that a president takes during his time in office are immune from prosecution.

    immune from prosecution? i think not! the supreme court allowed a civil law suit to proceed against clinton while in office. if a cic commits high crimes and is a traitor he can be arrested for it at anytime especially if he is a danger to the welfare of the country.

  • Oliver

    #3 Granny: are you kidding? NO accountability for crimes committed while in office?

    So….
    the American media has allowed the American President to get away with murder.
    And there’s nothing anyone can do about it?

    Aye Karumba, no wonder he wants another term so badly.

  • ruready?

    In flyover country this is negligent homicide. I hope that President Romney awards the two brave seals the Congressional Metal of Honor.

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  • Granny

    #6 and #7 – NO, I am NOT kidding. The Supreme Court allowed the prosecution of Clinton because he was being prosecuted for actions that were outside his actions as president.

    Nearly all actions or inactions that a Federal officer, including the president, takes in connection with his or her duties are immune from prosecution.

    The ONLY recourse is impeachment.

  • hyperstition

    Obama continues to say: “I didn’t tell anyone not to do anything.”

    He thinks he can pass the buck. Somebody else could have done something. Should have. Ought have. If it failed, they’d take the blame (like he had positioned official executive memos to make the senior military command take the fall if the Bin Laden raid failed). If it succeeded, he could take credit.

    He’s done this for four years on the economy. “Hey! Nothing I’ve done stops you corporations from hiring folks. It’s your fault things still are terrible. You’re making me look bad!”

    What on earth makes this historical loser think he’s leadership material? Truly, Mr. Obama, you are “unprecedented”, just not the way you think.

  • Ace

    ” most actions that a president takes during his time in office are immune from prosecution.”
    ========================
    Obviously, this is not true. Ford pardoned Nixon for any crimes he may have committed while in office.
    Another thing to remember…presidents can still be impeached after they leave office.

  • Skinner

    We Americans that want our country back only have one week.

    Where the he** have the Republican reps been? Where is the hell being raised?

    I know for sure I am not the only American truly angry about this.

    But are we the majority?

  • open society

    granny, we can hand him over to the International Criminal Court. liberals have been screaming for years that it’s perfectly legal, as they wanted to hand over Bush and Cheney for the crimes of believing the international intelligence agencies on their horrible Iraq WMD assessments.

    let’s take them at their offer and conduct a pilot, giving Obama over to the ICC for war crimes trials on his extra-legal death drones and personally determined target lists.

  • Snap boy and Granny are exactly correct. Unfortunately correct. I to have emailed and emailed both of my representatives over and over and over demanding that they initiate the action to take Obama and Holder and Napolitano out of office…….RIGHT THE HELL NOW!!!!

    I am sick and tired of Republican’s doing nothing when this President committs crime after crime after crime. I even have a letter from my Congressman, John Fleming, that admits that Obama, “…has committed many crimes while in this first term.” My question to both my Congressman and Senator is, “Then why won’t you have him arrested, empeached, his presidency nullified….SOMETHING!!! But I get crickets from them both. And you know these two guys are the most proactive and outspoken conservatives in either House especially Senator Vitter. He, if you’ll remember was the single most aggresive representative who went toe to toe with Harry Reid when Bush tried to push his Amnesty bill through along with the Socialist Democrats who wanted all those free voters on their side. Vitter was the one who killed the bill by his staunch opposition to it. So much so that it was what spured Reid to dig up the list of clients from the Washington Madame that had Vitter’s name on it that caused him so much trouble. I have tried to get that list but Reid had it locked up at the Justice Dept. But since it was ABC who made the report after the bill was killed and pissed Bush off so much so that he said, “The American people just need to mind their own business and let us handle these issues!” and really angered alot of Republican’s and conservatives.

    But Obama? He is a criminal of the highest order. I can’t even think of a sever enough punishment for him other than ordering the Dean of the University of Chicago to hand over Obama’s school records that are locked up in the library safe with orders to not release those records without a signed note from Obama himself. The reason why some want those records released is they show “place of birth”. That would once and for all show where Obama was born and I know it wasn’t in Hawaii. Another thing they would show is if he had a foreign student visa and from which country it was issued from. And another thing they would show would be his grades, whether or not he ever was a professor of “Constitutional Law”, and was he the head of the Harvard Law Review, like he says he was. There isn’t any evidence of that because it can only be shown on his school records from Harvard, and Harvard isn’t telling, by orders from Obama. So nothing can be verified about him.

    Did Obama give orders to rescue our people? Absolutely not!! And I believe the reason why is because he made a deal with the Libyan Security Forces who were supposed to be the only ones who told Obama they could do the job. Obama didn’t want to move more weapons to our embasy’s because he thought that it would embarrass the Libyan Security Forces that we were preparing to defend ourselves when it was them who were supposed to be doing the defending, and Obama didn’t want to indicate that we might not “trust” them. And Obama didn’t want to send troops in there, even when the live feed showed the Libyan’s weren’t anywhere to be found, because he didn’t want to hurt their feelings or offend them in that we didn’t think they could do the job they said they were going to do for him.

    This whole thing is definately a empeachable offence for sure. And the one thing that empeaching him right now would do is take him out of the running for President. He can’t remain in the race and defend himself before a Congressional investigation committee. He would have to step out of the race. And if I’m not mistaken he would have to bow out by law. Now, I could be wrong about that but I know the reason’s why he didn’t rescue our people is correct. He didn’t want to offend the Libyan’s by our rescuing our own people because that was the job of the Libyan’s. Obama said so only one time during all this and he hasn’t mentioned it again. Probably because he knows he would be attacked on it right away.

  • Granny

    #14 -that is one of the crappiest ideas I have ever heard “open society.” Talk about letting the camels nose under the tent flap!

    #12 – Ford pardoned Nixon for “crimes” – such as directing a breaking and entering – not “actions taken – or not – in the course of his duties”.

  • wodun

    Ham’s replacement was announced but was he removed from duty? He was supposed to be replaced sometime in early 2013.

    Considering the seriousness of the allegations, people need to check to see if Ham was removed from command or if his scheduled replacement was announced.

    What we know to be facts are damning enough for Obama, let’s not go overboard by treating rumors as facts.

  • The Teller of Hard Facts

    If some criminal or terrorist was being attacked in our embassy, I can BET MY LIFE that Obama would have sent spec-ops to save them. I can hear it now “We had to save this alleged terrorist so that he can face true justice, not mob justice”… hahaha

    But real Americans? They’re racist colonizers who plundered the earth! They DESERVE to die

    You all know its true

  • Granny

    This whole thing is definately a empeachable offence for sure.

    The problem with that, WillofLa, is that Impeachment is a two-stage process.

    The House of Representatives writes the Bill of Impeachment. The Senate holds the actual Impeachment Trial.

    The problem with actually getting Obama impeached should be readily obvious. If we want him impeached then we have to move heaven and earth to take back the Senate on November 6 while simultaneously retaining the majority in the House. One contest to watch and lend a hand if you can is Senator Scott Brown in Masschusetts – Elizabeth Warren is ahead in the polls and is a big Obama supporter.

  • MrGoodWench

    Can the US Armed Forces courtmartial and punish their Commander in Thief for treason ?

  • Alvin

    Could/should have Ham ordered assets into the frey?

  • Indiana

    Another General bites the dust! Does anyone out there have a re-cap of how many Generals Obama has “relieved of duty” because they’ve disagreed with his execution of our foreign policy? This is Dictatorship 101. We have so many “Baghdad Bobs” surrounding this guy, no wonder he thinks he’s untouchable.

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  • US Navy Corpseman

    Obungle claims he ordered staff to protect our personnel – then he fires Gen. Ham for doing that very thing. I want to see the paper trail of those orders from Jugears.

    How anyone cannot see that Obungle is a coward who is lying to stay in office . . . ..

  • Granny

    #24 October 28, 2012 at 3:40 pm
    US Navy Corpseman commented:

    Obungle claims he ordered staff to protect our personnel

    Note the operative word “have” that he used. He did not say – has NEVER said – that he had already ordered State to protect our personnel at the time of the incident. Obama made that statement weeks later as the muck started to hit the fan. In context it read to me like “going forward, I have NOW ordered protections for our personnel”.

  • Skinner,

    No, we’re not alone in this. There are some very powerful conservatives who are working behind the scenes who are getting ready to lower the boom on Obama and is whole administration. And, yes, I know, where have they been? Well, one of the reason’s is it’s damn hard to find someone in Washington who’ll stick their necks out to far, even if it meant that the American people would be getting the truth for once. Because it sure as hell ain’t the main stream media who are telling the America people about the Libyan attack. Wolf Blitzer hasn’t once told the public about this attack, or Obama’s involvement to why our people got killed.

    But let me tell you this, I believe that they will be forced to report on it because CNN’s most loyal viewers will demand it with threats to cut them off it they don’t.

    This whole thing will bring the Obama regime to it’s knees. Obama won’t be able to blame anyone for this. We’ve got four American’s killed in Libya from the very Security Forces who made a deal with Obama to protect our people, and they were working with Al Quaeda to make sure our people couldn’t defend themselves. And after Ambassator Steven’s was sodomised, then they killed him outrages me so much so that I can’t see straight!! I have contacted my Congressman and demanded with no uncertain words that I want Obama arrested for lieing about this attack, and lieing to the American people for 14 days.

    Is this anything like the nine days he waited for the oil spill from the BP well blowout to reach the wetlands in South Louisiana? He knew it would and he wanted it to ruin our coast because we voted against him. See, it’s “You take care of your supporters, and you hurt your enemies” kind of politics. And it’s everywhere not just Chicago, but especially Chicago! Obama needs to be deported and no pension, no Secret Service protection, no nothing, just a boot in the butt out of the country! He doesn’t deserve anything but what a Communist puke ought to get.

  • Granny

    #20 October 28, 2012 at 3:28 pm
    MrGoodWench commented:

    Can the US Armed Forces courtmartial and punish their Commander in Thief for treason ?
    _____

    Of course not – starting with the fact that all Officers serve at the pleasure of the President and can be dismissed any time he cares to dismiss them. How on earth would you reasonably expect a fair judgement.

    The Constitution provides ONLY ONE recourse to rid our selves of an unsatisfactory president – impeachment.

  • donh

    Cowardly Lying Lion Panette….Turning out to quite the PC fascist…The Musollini of DC.

    Better to stand down and let all our men die than fight back , kill muslims, and provoke a propaganda coup for Al Jezeera to exploit throughout the muslim world. …What do you think the successful attack on our embassy …the massacre of our Ambassador gives the muslim world in the way of propaganda recruiting ? Which recruits more terrorist to join in Jihad and embolden their attacks ? Benghazi or Abu Grabe ?

  • US Navy Corpseman

    I”ve seen an interview with Jugears wherein he claimed to have taken 3 steps immediately to insure the safety of our personnel. He vowed that he would never shirk his duty of protecting the American people —- usual blather to cover his scrawny ass.

    I want to see a photo of Jugears and Biden watching the live video fed to the ‘Sissy Room’ as the attack on the Consulate unfolded.

  • Walt

    I’m sure crybaby Boehner will do nothing about this.

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  • Lars

    Someone is gitmo-bound.

  • Lars

    Would you like a pink apron or purple to match your stripes?

  • MrGoodWench

    Granny commented:

    #20 October 28, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Of course not – starting with the fact that all Officers serve at the pleasure of the President and can be dismissed any time he cares to dismiss them. How on earth would you reasonably expect a fair judgement.

    The Constitution provides ONLY ONE recourse to rid our selves of an unsatisfactory president – impeachment.

    ++++++
    How about this –
    Impeachment proceedings should be initiated against Odinga Hussein Sotero tomorrow and until those proceedings are over, he is relieved of his contacts / previlages w r t US Military.
    The retard Biden should not be allowed to take over although he is VP , because of conflict of interest and his proven incompetance as a sane normal person.
    Just because our Constitution did not envision a situation where there will be an
    anti-American imposter as a POTUS doesn’t mean that we can’t amend it ,
    for the good of our country .

  • anotherstorey

    I have thought this entire incident over and have come to the conclusion that it was the Obama administration and campaign that started this whole thing in the Middle East. He spiked the football over and over again at the DMC convention from Sept 6 thru Sept 9th. Obama, Biden and Kerry were the worst offenders. Osama is dead. I killed him. Osama is dead GM is alive. and finally Kerry, ” is Osama better off today than four years ago. Many other speakers said simular things. Two days on Sept 11th after the convention Libya was attacked and our Ambassador was killed along with three other better people. These comments inflamed the Middle East and the CIA people over there notified the whitehouse the Middle East was rumbling and could cause trouble on Sept 11th. So the dunderheads in the administration come up with a plan to get the president off the hook. Someone dredged up that old video that had been out since June and sent it to the Aljazeera Media and got other contacts in Egypt to fire up the crowds about this video but most of the Egyptians still had Osama on their minds because it was his name they painted on our buildings and the people called out their are thousand s of Osamas. They burned an effigy of the president. It was him they were mad at but Obama didn’t want the American people to know it was his spiking the football about killing Osama that started this whole thing. They never believed it would work out the way it did. Libya was a surprise for them and they mishandled because of incompentence and stupidity. This clown is taking a lot of people down with him and that is a shame but we have had political military people for ever. They care nothing about the men just their careers. This president is a murderer plain and simple. He is totally incompentent and needs to be removed one of two ways, either vote him out or impeach him. We only have two choices in this. I think we can vote him out it would be a lot easier and then distroy his memory by telling the American people the whole truth about this impostor. VOTE HIM OUT.

  • valerie

    #12 October 28, 2012 at 3:02 pm
    Ace commented:

    Again, you are talking about a different type of action. A third-rate burglary of Democratic National Headquarters is not within the ambit of Presidential action. Ordering — or refusing to order — military action, is precisely what a President is for.

    The fastest remedy we have is to vote him out.

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  • gsrider

    Too bad Barry couldn’t keep his mouth shut after taking OBL out. Nooooo,.he had to take all the credit and remind the world every 5 minutes how manly he is. The men who did the heavy lifting would never breathe a word about the OBL take down, Barry doesn’t have the character nor courage to simply get the job done and leave it alone.

  • GotFreedom

    Interesting tidbit/timeline. . .the NYT’s reported on Sept 19th that Gen. Ham was being replaced by Gen. Rodriguez (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/20/world/africa/ex-commander-in-afghanistan-in-line-for-top-africa-post.html?_r=0)

    . . .yet the DoD on their website didn’t report it until Oct 18th (http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=118259)

    . . .and, the Navy is also replacing an Admiral who has been in the Mid East pending an “ongoing investigation” (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/navy-replaces-admiral-leading-mideast-strike-group-because-of-ongoing-investigation/)

    Bottom line. . .rather than take responsibility for Benghazi. . .the WH is instead throwing Gen. Ham and Rear Adm Gaouette under the bus!

    And one more item. . .

    . . .The Senate Intelligence Committee has announced it will hold a closed hearing Nov. 15 into the circumstances surrounding the terrorist attack, including the intelligence and security situation there, and additional hearings will follow. . .

    http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/10/ap-secdef-panetta-lack-of-inf

    Why is it a “CLOSED” meeting; is there something to hide; is this so that they can coordinate their “stories”. . .don’t we have a right to know what happened. . .shouldn’t this hearing be out in the open for all of America to see/hear?

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  • Sparky

    Obama was derelict in his duty and if he had any morals he would resign.

    However, psychopaths do not have any morals, empathy or feelings as we are seeing in Obama and Hillary.

  • Granny

    #34 October 28, 2012 at 4:05 pm
    MrGoodWench commented:

    Granny commented:

    #20 October 28, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Of course not – starting with the fact that all Officers serve at the pleasure of the President and can be dismissed any time he cares to dismiss them. How on earth would you reasonably expect a fair judgement.

    The Constitution provides ONLY ONE recourse to rid our selves of an unsatisfactory president – impeachment.

    ++++++
    How about this –
    Impeachment proceedings should be initiated against Odinga Hussein Sotero tomorrow and until those proceedings are over, he is relieved of his contacts / previlages w r t US Military.

    __________

    AGAIN – there are TWO PARTS to Impeachment

    1. The House of Representatives writes a Bill of Impeachment
    2. The United States Senate holds a trial

    (BTW, this takes months, not days.)

    In the interim, the same “innocent until proven guilty” is in place for a president as is supposed to be for the rest of us. There is absolutely NO mechanism at all to keep him from performing the duties of his office – or not – until he is found guilty at the impeachment trial.

  • spotted reptile

    The Senate Intelligence Committee hearings will necessarily be held in camera because of the national security implications of running Qadaffi guns illegally to Syrian rebels through Turkey and Lebanon. They sure as heck don’t want the details about that coming out for Russian and Iranian ears to hear.

  • I entirely agree with “Sparky”, that if Obama had any dignity whatsoever he would resign, and I’ll tell you this right now, that if Hillary wants to avoid the hell that is going to come because of this, and heads might very well roll, she would also resign, and I mean right now. If Penetta thinks he’s going to get a nice big golden parachute out of office to some real plush job with Goldman Sachs or someplace, he’s mistaken because if the American people are serious about holding these criminals accountable for their treasonous actions, violation of the law, total irresponsibility in office, malfeasance or whatever, they are not going to let this criminal act go unpunished.

    I believe they all deserve to burn in Hell, oh yeah, and go to prison to…………..ALL OF THEM!!!! DEPORT OBAMA!!! HE IS NOT A U.S. CITIZEN AND SEND THAT COMMIE WIFE OF HIS WITH HIM AS WELL, except her citizenship would have to be revoked and then deport her to.

    All this stuff is possible but it would take some real balls on the part of our representatives and they would have to really mean it. They would really want to clean up the government and really want to get the damn Socialist Democrats out of the government. If we could get half of that America would be in much better shape then we are now.

  • bg

    ++

    We Know Now Who Gave the Order
    Not to Protect the Consulate!!

    [According to this article on September 24th, 2012
    10:21 AM ET posted by CNN:
    A general’s warning about militants in Libya
    By Barbara Starr

    Just three months ago, the four-star chief of the U.S. Africa Command warned of a growing threat from al Qaeda and other militant groups in Libya

    “There is a real concern in Libya. As Libya is coming out of the revolution and forming its new government, there very clearly are those who wish to undermine the formation of that government,” said Gen. Carter Ham in a speech to senior military and civilian officials from Africa, Europe and the U.S.

    “We see some worrying indicators that al Qaeda and others are seeking to establish a presence in Libya,” Ham warned. Ham often worked closely with the late Chris Stevens, the U.S. ambassador to Libya, killed in the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

    Ham has been trying to establish the initial stages of a military relationship with Libya, but the effort has been slowed by the presence and influence of armed militias, such as those suspected of being involved in the attack. Ham noted back in June the problem of bringing even more mainstream groups under the control of the central government.

    [..]

    “Now how do you bring those disparate organizations under some degree of central government control? How do you use those organizations to the benefit of the people? How do you transform some of them into border police, into national police, into maritime police and other areas of government where they can continue to be valuable contributors to overall Libyan security?”

    As commander of U.S. military operations across Africa, Ham would be the senior U.S. officer in charge, if the president were to order a military strike against potential targets believed to be responsible for the attack. He is considered to be extremely knowledgeable about al Qaeda movements in Africa, as was Stevens.

    Ham has particularly made the case that al Qaeda in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb poses an increasing concern and that the group is operating unconstrained in a large portion of Mali and coordinating with other extremist elements across North Africa.

    According to reports: On September 10, General Ham was in Nevada.

    Discussing the role of the National Guard in the Middle East and Africa:]

    scroll thread comments for much more..

    OT.. a couple of wee reminders of the big O picture..

    battlefront:

    […What is more striking, though, is more U.S. soldiers have been
    killed and wounded during President Barack Obama’s first term in
    office than former President George W. Bush’s two terms…]

    homefront:

    [The largest banks are actually bigger than they were when he took
    office. And earned more in the first two-and-a-half years of his term
    than they did during the entire eight years of the Bush administration.]

    ==

  • There was a guy on Rush last week who is with the security forces that protect the embassies, I believe. He didn’t want to go to far with what he did, but you could tell he was military and knew the proper termanology and who did what. Rush asked him questions that he knew he might be crossing the line but this guy and Rush agreed on the fact that even though this guy might get himself in trouble, and he said a couple of times that he may be going to far, but he said it was more important to get the truth out to the American people than worry about his personal safety. He told the whole deal about how the President was the Commander in Chief and would have to be the one and was the one who gave the order to send the planes and troops into Libya to rescue our people.

    So Rush asked him who was the one who would be in postion to give the order to fly the C-130 with Special Forces troops on board who knew what they had to do to get our people out of there and save their lives. This guys name was Doug, Doug said…..the President! He said that since 1979 when Carter screwed up the rescue of our embassy people who had been kidnapped by the Iranian’s, the government had these kinds of rescue situations all worked out and knew what to do in any kind of situation. This had been done since no one knew what to do exactly back in Carter’s day and the plan Carter came up with failed miserably, and soldier’s died. Nowadays, Doug said, that these contigency plans were put in place to work “automatically”. He said that no one needed to tell anyone what to do, except that there was one point and one point that only one person needed to say the word. And that word was to “go”! And that person was the President. Doug said it was Obama who stopped the rescue, Obama and only Obama!

    Doug said he was so frustrated because he KNEW that Obama, Hillary, and Penetta were standing there watching our people being hunted down in real time. Doug said that is the way it’s done these days in that even though drones weren’t flying around all the time it only takes a few minutes to get one from one place to where the State Dept. or whoever needs one in order for this attack to be shown on a computer screen in real time well enough that the President would be able to make the decision accurately enough to make the right decision at the right time. Obama failed to do that and Doug said he knew that Obama and the whole bunch stood there and watched our people being murdered!!!

    I’m telling you right now, the Congress should start empeachment proceedings on Obama come this Monday morning!!!

  • #30…he’ll do something, he’ll cry.

  • AmericaWILL

    Put O, Moochelle, & offspring on a plane and dump them out at the Iranian border. Since O wants so badly to be friends with the Iranians I’m sure they’ll enjoy living there.

  • Peter Warner

    hyperstition #11 commented:

    ‘Obama continues to say: “I didn’t tell anyone not to do anything.” ‘

    Yes, and look closely at the construction of that statement. Why would he use an awkward double negative? Knowing how dishonest people use words, this tells me:

    He did not give an order to ‘go’.

    1) Suppose Secretary of Defense Panneta had a sense that Obama wanted to avoid sending in a rescue team, and he (Panneta) wanted to avoid putting Obama into a tough spot. He would simply have to NOT make an explicit request.

    2) Or, suppose Secretary of Defense Panneta HIMSELF wanted to avoid sending in a rescue team. He would simply not make an explicit request, and Obama probably would not volunteer to make an order to engage a rescue team.

    3) Or, Obama wanted to avoid sending in a rescue team, and he would pretend to not understand that the ‘go’ order had to be explicit. Panneta asks, but Obama doesn’t respond.

    4) Or, Panneta asks for an order to ‘go’, and Obama says something like ‘let me consider that, and get back to you.

    Any of these scenarios is consistent with ‘I didn’t tell anyone not to do anything’.

    The truth probably is, Obama did not give an order to ‘go’.

    And that is betrayal of our government, our military, the oath he swore when he assumed office, and a betrayal of America.

    Longing for a respectable President and an honorable Commander In Chief, Peter Warner.

    PS: I just realized something- if he swore his oath on the Bible, as a Muslim he would not feel obligated to honor that pledge.

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  • Rose

    Some of this is rumor, some is from Catherine Herridge – don’t know who this is, myself, but this RUMOR is the only thing I have heard that makes sense:

    http://thecaptiansquarters.blogspot.com/2012/10/treason.html

  • Rose

    That link I just posted IS NOT ED MORRISSEY. I wondered where I was and finally saw it is’t spelled EXACTLY the same.

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  • Strategos

    Did General Ham request to send aid to Benghazi?

    Did anyone in the military chain of command request to send aid to Benghazi?

    Jason Chaffetz did not state so in this video clip, but it is of extreme importance.

    So a four-star general did not ask to send troops? Maybe the military chain of command in the region should be investigated for dereliction of duty. – O Strategos

  • Cassandra

    Transparency?

  • Linda

    #50 October 29, 2012 at 12:28 am
    Peter Warner commented:

    “Longing for a respectable President and an honorable Commander In Chief, Peter Warner.”

    ************************************************************************

    Amen!

    I just wish someone would ask Obama…when YOU SAW NO HELP CAME…WHY…DID YOU NOT GET HELP ‘THEN” EITHER????

  • John Longwood

    It takes a simple majority of the House to Impeach. It takes a 2/3 majority of the Senate to Convict.
    Harry Reid hasn’t passed a budget in nearly four years.
    I doubt the Republicans have a snow ball’s chance of gaining a 2/3 majority in the Senate. I have severe concerns whether they can gain even a simple majority in the Senate OR hold onto what they have in the House.
    Clinton was Impeached, but not Convicted. Nixon was threatened with Impeachment (did you know Hillary wrote part of his Articles of Impeachment? Part of her work was cut-and-pasted into Clinton’s Articles.), resigned to avoid it and was then pardoned for all crimes he might have committed in office.
    Of course, the President can only pardon Federal Crimes. The burglary at the Watergate was a local (to D.C.) crime. The conspiracy might have been federal, but only if it happened on federal property.
    So – forget Impeachment. The Congress has not done its job in years. Why would it start now?
    The November 6th election, if Obama allows it, is the only hope open to us that does not involve a letter beginning: “When, in the course of Human events …..”
    A point of interest: Most patriots in suits wear a US flag pin on their left lapel. Most Members of Congress wear a MOC pin on that lapel, not a flag. Shows where their priorities lie. Which is more important? Being an American or being a Member of Congress?

  • Smirking Wolf

    I try to envision what would happen if the “protestors” had stormed a consulate or emabassy and killed a Russian or Chinese ambassador. Apologies to Sara Palin: I think you could see the flames and smoke clouds from your house. Rumor is Gen Ham never got the OK so he took it for action himself. They had him relieved. Navy Strike Group Commander as well.

  • Michiel

    Obama go to trial! Of course together with George Bush Jnr for his lies about wmd’s in Iraq and being housefriend of the saudi king…a medieval ruler and sponsor of wahabbi-terrorism around the world.

  • greycap

    Leads from behind. . .Yeah, and th’ little man pushin’ the broom behind th’ elephants is th’ Drum Major.
    Has anyone noticed that with this WH folks can claim responsibility without being held accountable or facing any career-ending consequences? While we don’t ‘throw the Luger on the table’ in this country, when someone decides to shout “I’m Spartacus!” after a major screw-up of anykind, they dang well oughta know there’s gonna be a cross by the side of the road in their immediate futre.

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  • Kernel Corn

    Obama fires top Admiral Charles M. Gaouette and four star General Carter Ham for trying to save American lives in Benghazi, Libya! Read this horror story at “Before it’s News”. This is sickening, disgusting and the act of a traitor and coward.

  • Ross

    Don’t impeach Obama now. First let him lose, and let that despicable Reid lose the Senate. Cleaning up after the Obama administration will make cleaning up after Sandy look like a walk in the park. Obama’s hard lurch to the left was designed to do exactly that. America has been down before, but the rewards of pulling it back up again will be great.

  • Dustydog

    I can’t believe he didn’t kill Osama sooner when he could. What an ass! Impeach him!

  • Abu Nudnik

    I wonder if any man has more journalists trying to open up the can than the man called General Ham.

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  • Jerry

    His last name is “Rodriguez”…just saying!

  • Jerry

    Barry took the American Flag off the tail of Air Force One,and put his (Bloody Finger Marks)symbol in place of it….what is it going to take.The Blacks have showed their hand as far as how they feel about America,and it ain`t good….”All this for a Damn Flag” is a quote from one Black Person we all know,and he Husband agreed with a nod of approval.’Home of the Brave”…bull shi%

  • Robert

    Ultimately POTUS, Secretary of State and SECDEF are accountable.