AFRICOM leader General Carter Ham was never given the order to secure the consulate in Benghazi. This is what the general told Rep. Jason Chaffetz after the 9-11 Benghazi terror attack.

That means only Barack Obama or Defense Secretary Panetta, the two men above the AFRICOM commander, never ordered an operation to secure the consulate. This was despite the many pleas for assistance coming from the consulate and annex.

The Obama Administration replaced General Carter Ham with General David Rodriguez at AFRICOM on October 18.

The US had troops in Sigonella, Italy – about an hour away on 9-11.
The attack went on for at least four hours but US forces were never called in.

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  1. Does a president have to be impeached before being tried by a military tribunal for refusing to protect US territory from attack?

  2. Okay, the next follow on question is “Why was he relieved then?” I think Chaffetz and Issa have a lot more info than we know and will be using against this administration very soon

  3. #1 October 28, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    snap boy commented:

    Does a president have to be impeached before being tried by a military tribunal for refusing to protect US territory from attack?
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    A president cannot be tried by the military at all. Impeachment is the only option. Other than that, most actions that a president takes during his time in office are immune from prosecution.

  4. Obama is bad person. True scum.

  5. #2 October 28, 2012 at 2:41 pm
    AZGal5759 commented:

    Okay, the next follow on question is “Why was he relieved then?” I think Chaffetz and Issa have a lot more info than we know and will be using against this administration very soon
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    “Rumor” has it that Ham was going to go send in troops on his own initiative and was relieved of his command for doing so by his second, who has now been appointed to that position (still not approved by the Senate). I am not clear as to whether he was sending in those Special Forces because he was tired of waiting for the GO or whether he was sending them in in direct violation of an order to stand down – seen both reports.

    At any rate, by all accounts Ham is a highly experienced officer with lots of knowledge of Africa and that the replacement has 6 months or so experience in the Afghanistan “surge.” Not promising.

    A Navy Admiral who is in charge of a carrier group in the Gulf has also been relieved of command . . .

  6. Granny commented:

    #1 October 28, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    snap boy commented:

    Does a president have to be impeached before being tried by a military tribunal for refusing to protect US territory from attack?
    _____

    A president cannot be tried by the military at all. Impeachment is the only option. Other than that, most actions that a president takes during his time in office are immune from prosecution.

    immune from prosecution? i think not! the supreme court allowed a civil law suit to proceed against clinton while in office. if a cic commits high crimes and is a traitor he can be arrested for it at anytime especially if he is a danger to the welfare of the country.

  7. #3 Granny: are you kidding? NO accountability for crimes committed while in office?

    So….
    the American media has allowed the American President to get away with murder.
    And there’s nothing anyone can do about it?

    Aye Karumba, no wonder he wants another term so badly.

  8. In flyover country this is negligent homicide. I hope that President Romney awards the two brave seals the Congressional Metal of Honor.

  9. #6 and #7 – NO, I am NOT kidding. The Supreme Court allowed the prosecution of Clinton because he was being prosecuted for actions that were outside his actions as president.

    Nearly all actions or inactions that a Federal officer, including the president, takes in connection with his or her duties are immune from prosecution.

    The ONLY recourse is impeachment.

  10. Obama continues to say: “I didn’t tell anyone not to do anything.”

    He thinks he can pass the buck. Somebody else could have done something. Should have. Ought have. If it failed, they’d take the blame (like he had positioned official executive memos to make the senior military command take the fall if the Bin Laden raid failed). If it succeeded, he could take credit.

    He’s done this for four years on the economy. “Hey! Nothing I’ve done stops you corporations from hiring folks. It’s your fault things still are terrible. You’re making me look bad!”

    What on earth makes this historical loser think he’s leadership material? Truly, Mr. Obama, you are “unprecedented”, just not the way you think.

  11. ” most actions that a president takes during his time in office are immune from prosecution.”
    ========================
    Obviously, this is not true. Ford pardoned Nixon for any crimes he may have committed while in office.
    Another thing to remember…presidents can still be impeached after they leave office.

  12. We Americans that want our country back only have one week.

    Where the he** have the Republican reps been? Where is the hell being raised?

    I know for sure I am not the only American truly angry about this.

    But are we the majority?

  13. granny, we can hand him over to the International Criminal Court. liberals have been screaming for years that it’s perfectly legal, as they wanted to hand over Bush and Cheney for the crimes of believing the international intelligence agencies on their horrible Iraq WMD assessments.

    let’s take them at their offer and conduct a pilot, giving Obama over to the ICC for war crimes trials on his extra-legal death drones and personally determined target lists.

  14. Snap boy and Granny are exactly correct. Unfortunately correct. I to have emailed and emailed both of my representatives over and over and over demanding that they initiate the action to take Obama and Holder and Napolitano out of office…….RIGHT THE HELL NOW!!!!

    I am sick and tired of Republican’s doing nothing when this President committs crime after crime after crime. I even have a letter from my Congressman, John Fleming, that admits that Obama, “…has committed many crimes while in this first term.” My question to both my Congressman and Senator is, “Then why won’t you have him arrested, empeached, his presidency nullified….SOMETHING!!! But I get crickets from them both. And you know these two guys are the most proactive and outspoken conservatives in either House especially Senator Vitter. He, if you’ll remember was the single most aggresive representative who went toe to toe with Harry Reid when Bush tried to push his Amnesty bill through along with the Socialist Democrats who wanted all those free voters on their side. Vitter was the one who killed the bill by his staunch opposition to it. So much so that it was what spured Reid to dig up the list of clients from the Washington Madame that had Vitter’s name on it that caused him so much trouble. I have tried to get that list but Reid had it locked up at the Justice Dept. But since it was ABC who made the report after the bill was killed and pissed Bush off so much so that he said, “The American people just need to mind their own business and let us handle these issues!” and really angered alot of Republican’s and conservatives.

    But Obama? He is a criminal of the highest order. I can’t even think of a sever enough punishment for him other than ordering the Dean of the University of Chicago to hand over Obama’s school records that are locked up in the library safe with orders to not release those records without a signed note from Obama himself. The reason why some want those records released is they show “place of birth”. That would once and for all show where Obama was born and I know it wasn’t in Hawaii. Another thing they would show is if he had a foreign student visa and from which country it was issued from. And another thing they would show would be his grades, whether or not he ever was a professor of “Constitutional Law”, and was he the head of the Harvard Law Review, like he says he was. There isn’t any evidence of that because it can only be shown on his school records from Harvard, and Harvard isn’t telling, by orders from Obama. So nothing can be verified about him.

    Did Obama give orders to rescue our people? Absolutely not!! And I believe the reason why is because he made a deal with the Libyan Security Forces who were supposed to be the only ones who told Obama they could do the job. Obama didn’t want to move more weapons to our embasy’s because he thought that it would embarrass the Libyan Security Forces that we were preparing to defend ourselves when it was them who were supposed to be doing the defending, and Obama didn’t want to indicate that we might not “trust” them. And Obama didn’t want to send troops in there, even when the live feed showed the Libyan’s weren’t anywhere to be found, because he didn’t want to hurt their feelings or offend them in that we didn’t think they could do the job they said they were going to do for him.

    This whole thing is definately a empeachable offence for sure. And the one thing that empeaching him right now would do is take him out of the running for President. He can’t remain in the race and defend himself before a Congressional investigation committee. He would have to step out of the race. And if I’m not mistaken he would have to bow out by law. Now, I could be wrong about that but I know the reason’s why he didn’t rescue our people is correct. He didn’t want to offend the Libyan’s by our rescuing our own people because that was the job of the Libyan’s. Obama said so only one time during all this and he hasn’t mentioned it again. Probably because he knows he would be attacked on it right away.

  15. #14 -that is one of the crappiest ideas I have ever heard “open society.” Talk about letting the camels nose under the tent flap!

    #12 – Ford pardoned Nixon for “crimes” – such as directing a breaking and entering – not “actions taken – or not – in the course of his duties”.

  16. Ham’s replacement was announced but was he removed from duty? He was supposed to be replaced sometime in early 2013.

    Considering the seriousness of the allegations, people need to check to see if Ham was removed from command or if his scheduled replacement was announced.

    What we know to be facts are damning enough for Obama, let’s not go overboard by treating rumors as facts.

  17. If some criminal or terrorist was being attacked in our embassy, I can BET MY LIFE that Obama would have sent spec-ops to save them. I can hear it now “We had to save this alleged terrorist so that he can face true justice, not mob justice”… hahaha

    But real Americans? They’re racist colonizers who plundered the earth! They DESERVE to die

    You all know its true

  18. This whole thing is definately a empeachable offence for sure.

    The problem with that, WillofLa, is that Impeachment is a two-stage process.

    The House of Representatives writes the Bill of Impeachment. The Senate holds the actual Impeachment Trial.

    The problem with actually getting Obama impeached should be readily obvious. If we want him impeached then we have to move heaven and earth to take back the Senate on November 6 while simultaneously retaining the majority in the House. One contest to watch and lend a hand if you can is Senator Scott Brown in Masschusetts – Elizabeth Warren is ahead in the polls and is a big Obama supporter.

  19. Can the US Armed Forces courtmartial and punish their Commander in Thief for treason ?



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