Like Clockwork… Democrats Promise to Ban Assault Weapons after Sandy Hook Shootings

In the wake of Friday’s mass killing at an elementary school in Connecticut, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Sunday on Meet the Press that she plans to introduce an assault weapons ban bill on the first day of the new Congress.

Democrats today promised to ban assault weapons following the shootings Friday at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut.
Telegraph reported:

A bill to restrict the use and sale of weapons like the high-powered Bushmaster .223 that coroners said had killed many of the children at Sandy Hook, would be introduced in the next session of the US Congress, promised senior Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein “It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession. Not retroactively but prospectively. And it will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets,” she told NBC News, adding that she expected Mr Obama to support the bill.

The move – which would essentially revive the Bill Clinton-era assault weapons that was allowed to lapse in 2004 – is expected to be highly controversial with the powerful gun lobby and politicians whose constituents cling fiercely to their Second Amendment gun rights.

Mr Obama has faced a sharp political dilemma over gun control, almost entirely ducking the issue in his first term because it would cost him votes in the key battleground states – Florida, Virginia, Ohio – which secured his re-election last November, but only by a collective tally of about 250,000 votes.

Chuck Schumer, another senior Democrat senator, said he believed that a deal could be done, but it would require both camps to show flexibility in their previously hard-and-fast attitudes on the subject.

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  • gastorgrab

    And did they offer any proposals to address our ‘Mental Health’ emergency?

    You know, the fact that it’s now easier in the United States to get a FREE cellphone from the government than to get desperately needed mental health care?

    What all the recent shootings had in common:

    – Mental illness
    – An automobile to drive to the place of destruction
    – Firearms

    The vast majority of both automobiles and firearms are used responsibly, but there is no such thing as a ‘responsible’ AND ‘mentally ill’ person.

  • Mahdi Al-Dajjal

    And you can absolutely count on the spineless RINOs in both the House and Senate siding with the Dems on legislation banning guns.

  • gastorgrab

    It’s rare for conservatives and ‘socialist-minded’ liberals to agree on anything, but the need to take care of a certain portion of the American population IS MERITED. Our government is wasting precious resources taking care of people who can take care of themselves, while those who do not have the capacity for self-sufficiency, and who pose a danger to themselves and others, are left stranded.

    THE VERY FIRST THING that the Welfare State should do is take care of those who are unable to take care of themselves. But where the Tyranny of the Majority rules the day, those folks simply are not a large enough voting block to make any impact on socialist attitudes.

  • RealMc

    Ok, so when are they going to ban abortions? Take a look at the number of viable human beings are killed every day using that method.

    How about cars, those are used everyday by drunk drivers to kill innocent people as well.

    Why just guns? I think because that is quite literally our last defense to becoming a full on banana republic run by a tin hat dictator.

    Also….Doug Giles has a very good point. I’d send my kids to Doug Giles Elementary in a heartbeat……

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    …but it would require both camps to show flexibility in their previously hard-and-fast attitudes on the subject.

    We all know what that means – the Republicans are expected to “compromise”, and Democrats give away nothing.

    Schumer and the rest of his Democrat rat pack can all go to hell.

  • How does Feinstein define an “assault weapon?” How does she define a weapon “of war?”

    Is it the Bushmaster .223 that she objects to? What does she say when the Virginia Tech shooter killed more people than the Newtown shooter and he used a Glock 19 pistol?

    These people have no clue – automatic, semi-automatic, none of it means crap to them…you watch, it will go from an “assault weapons” ban to a ban that includes all “semi-automatic” weapons.

    Feinstein’s husband is a defense contractor. I’ll bet you the farm that Diane Feinstein has two Bushmaster .223 sitting inside her home in California at this very moment.

  • Patty

    This young man who killed in Sandy Hook was a sick individual. His mother had guns and he was a loner from all indications. In my opinion this all was a recipe for a tragedy to unfold.

    But for our gun rights to be taken away is not the answer. And his mother had all goods registered.

    I am on the fence about having such powerful such as an assault rifle. Now, these leaders must not concentrate on these assault weapons alone. Many factors are at play here. First, Lanza had a disease and had a tough youth, as was reported and played video games. Just how bloody these games were is another story. A loner, illness, guns in the home were all factors and you cannot just start speaking of gun control alone. But Obama will do something as he is once again being pressured but is he really being pressure because this tragedy has fueled the fire of the him and his liberal friends.

  • Patty

    A recipe for disaster doesn’t equate gun controls. It had all the makings of evil and no matter how many talks of change you cannot stop everyone. It is an impossibility. And guns, how many lives have been saved for having them.

    Let’s discuss this: If only 10% of the people
    who think they saved an innocent life were actually correct and we
    use Kleck’s latest estimate, it still leaves about 40,000 lives saved
    by armed citizens each year.

    Who knows but I would take a guess that more lives are saved then lost for having yourself armed.

  • Patty

    In an economy were people are in fear of not having a job, being fired or laid off, there are those who have gone out and shot up their boss and others. Many horrible situations have happened because of domestic violence. Men or women go into their spouse employment and kill their spouse and others.

    Assault rifles were not use in all cases. So, we cannot stop a mentally disturbed or stress out person who wants someone dead.

  • lincoln’s stinkin’

    Did you expect anything less? There’s no trajedy too horrific to exploit and demagogue. MOLON LABE!

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  • Linda

    God gave us the right to bear arms, and they are needed more than ever especially since this administration wants to leave us as sitting ducks for every terrorists and thug around!


  • Sam Stone

    It is not firearms. It is not laws. It is not liberal v conservative. It is nothing but evil showing its face.

    In other areas of the world they strap bombs on themselves and go into a market or church or employment line or school for girls. Pure evil.

    Until that is recognized no argument will fix it.

  • SeniorD

    Why is it that the hypocrtical Congressional Marxists and Hamiltonians rush to the nearest camera and scream about gun control when a holocaust like Sandy Hook occurs? For that matter, why do they have to wait for some hienous crime to occur when places like Chicago (home to the Marxists Alinsky, Soetoro-Obama and Rodham-Clinton), the Royal City of Washington, Trenton, Detoit, Los Angeles and NYC are swimming in Black on Black murder? The daily murder toll in just one of those cities exceeds Sandy Hook more often than not.

  • Arthur Carlson

    Totally sick of the Orwellian language the D’s use. Any one who knows rifles knows that a .223 is not a high powered rifle. My lever action 30/30 probably has twice the stopping power of a .223 and lets not even talk about probably the most popular hunting cartridge, 30.06, now that is a high powered cartridge. My point is not to compare cartridges so much as to decry the lies that come from the left.

  • bg


    aside from pushing their heads up
    Obama’s butt as far as they can..



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  • Sasja

    Who first coined the phrase “assualt weapon” when defining a firearm, particularly a rifle? Any object used in an attack against another is an “assualt weapon” whether it’s a knife, club, or any number of items that can be used as a weapon.

  • Sasja

    Answering my own question it was Josh Sugarmann of the Violence Policy Center.

    Knew it had to be a lib just wondered who.

  • Marxists never let a good crisis go to waste….Good luck trying to take our right to bear arms.

  • bigL

    Just watch: the ban will get big support from the Permanent Loser Party- the GOP.
    On the bight side , things are back to normal as the Daily Cller is reporting that Boehner is giving in and backing huge tax increases on the wealthy.
    Remember that it would take a human counting as in 1..2..3.. thirty-two thousand years to count to a trillion.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    Why is it that the hypocrtical Congressional Marxists and Hamiltonians rush to the nearest camera and scream about gun control when a holocaust like Sandy Hook occurs?

    I’ve heard it called “dancing in the blood of the dead”.

  • SeaBass

    Look bans work period. Ask the brave soul standing with Ambassador Stevens.

  • valerie
  • Mad Hatter

    The Alinsky left always eats around the edges of what they want to destroy.

    First, it was be Assault Weapons.

    Ten years from now, it will be handguns.

    15 years from now, it will a “certain percentage” tax on bullets.

    20 years from now, it will be, “times have changed, do we really need guns?”

    The drip, drip, drip eroding away from the Constitution haters.

  • Winston Wolfe

    ‘Assault’ weapons are already banned in Connecticut, you fascist phucks.

  • They simply do not want you to be able to load ammo into a magazine. This is going to be a grassroots fight as the left has always wanted gun control. The right most likely will have no backbone when the left starts talking about whether we want another Newtown or not. We already know where the media stands. So the pro-gun people of this country better be ready to fight for their rights or this too will be taken away from us.

  • paul52

    I wanna hear a Prog/Democrat call for the banishment of evil and abortions. Crickets!

  • bg


    valerie #24 December 16, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    Media Mis-Information:
    Connecticut Murderer Did NOT Use Automatic Weapons

    unfortunately fior US, par the MSM course.. *sigh*





  • Patty
  • BarbaraS

    I don’t like guns and don’t have one. However, as we all know, give in to the dims on assault rifles and they will come back for another type of gun and then another and so on. Their goal is to disarm us and they don’t even try to hide it. What really chaps me is they say they are doing this for the public safety when they have to know an unarmed populace is a vulnerable populace. So that rhetoric is pure bunk. The only school shooting that I have heard of was stopped before multiple deaths was by a student who had a hunting rifle in his car and killed the perpertrator.

  • Patty

    Jamie Foxx Says Film Violence Inspires Real-life Violence

    Whoa! Liberal elitist weigh in.

  • Sasja

    A neighbor of ours has signs posted around his house depicting himself holding weapons and his two dobermans holding a bloody arm (it’s not real, just made to look as though it is) with the caption: “Guess who’s on duty tonight.”

  • BarbaraS

    OTOH, what use is an assault rifle when the government sends in a drone to eliminate you. They seem to be everywhere now.

  • Patty

    #33 December 16, 2012 at 3:39 pm
    Sasja commented:

    We know what side of the fence he’s on!! 😆

  • BubbaHotep

    If the parent(s) knowingly sought all the medical assistance available to aid their child in being a constructive member of society – the system failed in identifying the nature of this mind.
    If the parent(s), without medical advice, knew their child possessed tendencies that may be manifested in this way- the failure was in the belief they possessed the skill to control his actions.
    The weapons used were of convenience. But if we are to believe the information concerning the intellect of Lanza, in the absence of such weaponry he may well have devised a method of destruction much greater than the one he employed…

    The focus should not concentrate on the method, but more the mind behind it.

  • Patty

    Heard this and think about it for a minute.

    The uglier or let’s say more decrepit your home looks, less likely to be robbed.

  • Patty



  • Patty

    4 Awful Reactions to Sandy Hook School Shooting – And Thoughts on a Better Response

  • NeoKong

    These are the same people who couldn’t care less about the victims of Fast and Furious which number in the hundreds.

  • Sasja

    Patty, we may rethink our decision to do some major remodel next spring.

  • MarkJ

    Interesting to note that many of the loudest voices for “gun control” are Jews (Feinstein, Nadler, Schumer, Bloomberg).

    I reckon they haven’t learned a damn thing from The Holocaust and the history of Israel since 1948.

  • squeaky

    “caption: “Guess who’s on duty tonight.” i love it. i saw a sign…”beware of german shepherd. guess who’ll make it to the gate first”. didn’t exactly go with my chocolate lab.

  • Nanna

    A crimanologist said this morning that mass murder in this country had NOT increased. It peaked in 1929..then rose from 1960 to the 1990’s, and was actually lower in the 2000’s.

    He pointed out that we know instantly about all of the things that happen now. We hear from all over the country, indeed the world within minutes. But things were bad many years ago. Guns have nothing to do with it. If someone wants to mass murder, they will.

    To save ourselves, we need our guns!! They have saved more people than they have done evil.

  • Freddy

    “A bill to restrict the use and sale of weapons like the high-powered Bushmaster .223 that coroners said had killed many of the children at Sandy Hook”

    And yet, there are multiple reports that the .223 was LEFT in the shooters trunk and NOT used!

    We now have so much false information it will take many years to correct the LIES being spread to support a political agenda.

  • bg


    just a sample:

    Senator exits MILCON following Metro exposé, vet-care scandal

    [Feinstein abandoned MILCON as her ethical problems were surfacing
    in the media, and as it was becoming clear that her subcommittee
    left grievously wounded veterans to rot while her family was profiting
    from the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. It turns out that Blum
    also holds large investments in companies that were selling medical
    equipment and supplies and real estate leases—often without the
    benefit of competitive bidding—to the Department of Veterans Affairs,
    even as the system of medical care for veterans collapsed on his wife’s

    As of December 2006, according to SEC filings and three corporations
    in which Blum’s financial entities own a total of $1 billion in stock won
    considerable favor from the budgets of the Department of Defense and
    the Department of Veterans Affairs:

    Boston Scientific Corporation: $17.8 million for medical equipment
    and supplies; 85 percent of contracts awarded without benefit of

    Kinetic Concepts Inc.: $12 million, medical equipment
    and supplies; 28 percent noncompetitively awarded.

    CB Richard Ellis: The Blum-controlled international real estate firm
    holds congressionally funded contracts to lease office space to the
    Department of Veterans Affairs. It also is involved in redeveloping
    military bases turned over to the private sector.]

    March 30, 2007

    News Blackout on Dianne Feinstein Scandal

    September 16, 2011

    Dianne Feinstein And Others Lose Campaign Funds In Scandal

    [She indicated her losses in campaign funds could run into hundreds
    of thousands of dollars, possibly millions. Feinstein, seeking re-election
    next year, reported just more than $5 million in the bank as of June 30,
    disclosure reports filed with the Federal Election Commission indicated.

    Durkee worked on Feinstein’s campaigns since the early 1990s,
    the senator told Politico, adding “I trusted her implicitly.”]


  • Sasja

    One of our german shepherds actually flew through the glass pane on a window after someone trying to gain entrance. He (the dog) wasn’t injured but managed to do some damage to the idiot. Police arrested him at a local ER when he was trying to get treated for the dog bites.

  • Sasja

    MarkJ. They are elitists who have hired guns to protect their sorry selves while they expect the “unwashed masses” to just shut up and be good little victims.

  • Look-Out

    From the Clackamas mall shooting…

    Meli, who has a concealed carry permit, positioned himself behind a pillar.

    “He was working on his rifle,” said Meli. “He kept pulling the charging handle and hitting the side.”

    The break in gunfire allowed Meli to pull out his own gun, but he never took his eyes off the shooter.

    “As I was going down to pull, I saw someone in the back of the Charlotte move, and I knew if I fired and missed, I could hit them,” he said.

    Meli took cover inside a nearby store. He never pulled the trigger. He stands by that decision.

    “I’m not beating myself up cause I didn’t shoot him,” said Meli. “I know after he saw me, I think the last shot he fired was the one he used on himself.”

  • Valerie
  • ★FALCON★

    More people are killed by police using tazers than in these mentally ill murder rampages.

  • squeaky

    from free republic
    [In the 1960s, the United States embarked on an innovative approach to caring for its mentally ill: deinstitutionalization. The intentions were quite humane: move patients from long-term commitment in state mental hospitals into community-based mental health treatment. Contrary to popular perception, California Governor Ronald….] guns are just a sympton of the problem.

  • bigkahuna

    I want a ban on Deficit spending by congress. I vote for a bill demanding balanced budgets or no congress critter gets paid or any benefits including pensions.

    That should be easy for any idiot with an ounce of common sense should agree to right ?

    If they ban guns then I say they no longer can have armed bodyguards, security guards at the capital or whitehouse etc. None for their families or workplace.

    Screw these Natzis

    as I posted on another thread.

    I would say a variety of things have changed in todays society….

    1. Fewer people attend church of any sort and removing it from the public school, square etc. again just one part of a complicated issue.

    2. Break up of family. 46% Divorce rates in the US and higher among African Americans and poor people as a whole. Far too many kids having kids and far to many fathers who are not involved in those kids lives.

    3. Welfare of all sorts have made being lazy, stupid and dependent no longer looked at as bad or embarrassing but accepted and a away of life. Free stuff for anyone because they breathe.

    4. Drugs: pot, coke, meth and others are glorified, and few learn from high profile deaths and believe they can handle it.

    5. Strength of those drugs and their addiction capacity is much higher.

    6. Schools spend more time teaching political correct issues, green junk science etc rather than personal responsibility, manners, self reliance and common sense.

    7. Social media, internet, mass media and instant news make these kids household names and in a sick way almost glorify their sick deeds and actions. It also shows other sick/ mentally deficient kids what others are doing and more easily show them how they can copy or emmulate them.

    8. Culture: Movies and TV have more blood, guts, gore and vilolence than ever. Stallone, Arnold and others show hundreds being killed in a 90 minute movie or hour long cop series. They are much more graphic than ever. Movies like Kill Bill and Die Hard and many many other make hollywood movie makers and actors rich beyond belief. Notice they mostly have guns as well asarmed protection or armed guards. Same goes for our idiot politicians who break more laws and are more immoral in many cases than the average citizen. No budgets and spending trillions in debt for instance show bad examples of how to live life.

    9. Rap music continues to glorify violence against cops, women and others. They get filthy rich doing it with little or no real talent or real work put into it. This week saw Michelle Malkin threated with violence and extremely graphic, vulgar tweets by supporters of rap star The Game ????? ( never heard of the idiot)

    10 Athletes who are often times dumber than mud fences get rich and glorified and then are rarely held accountable by others when they shoot, kill, use drugs, drive drunk etc etc etc and if they go to jail are hired again and paid big money. In urban cultures the more criminal behavior the more street cred they have and more money they make.

    11. Violent video games have exploded literally. Call of Duty and others basically have the main goal of blowing away as many as possible in a short time in graphic, realistic virtual reality typ games. These are more than likely in every mass murderers history. They blurr the reality and desensitize those kids who are emotionally immature, damaged, stunted or just plain ill or evil. They always seem to be some young guy who cant seem to handle or process his emotions, dillusions,
    bullying, teasing, physical differences in body type, or perceived attractiveness or coolness.

    12. Mental illness clinics and hospitals have had cuts in funding and put more people on the street or never get them the help at all. Again many of these mass killers are first time offenders who never have shown any real signs that say hey Im gonna kill alot of people except where they have posted online without revealing who or wear they are and unseen until after they have done so.

    13. Most are suicidal in some way and are more often seeing others doing these things on tv/ news etc and are seeing this as an acceptible way of going out.

    14. Schools and other public areas are no gun zones and there is rarely any deterrent or answer to stopping this in the few minutes it takes for them to do their damage. Most have taken 10-20 minutes and thats before the police could ever respond.

    15. Lack of training in schools on how to respond. Columbine teacher put kids in the GLASS enclosed library where they were visible for the two insane kids to see and target instead of going into a closed more secluded office.

    16. Little, none or unarmed security…AKA the guy who runs away from an armed intruder with the others. If 2-5 of those priciples, teachers etc had had a CCW they may have been able to save or even deter these kids from going there.

    Schools are poorly secured( not surprisingly)

    18. We blame guns and the NRA but few if any of these kids are NRA members, trained, or interested in following the laws already in place.

    19. Every one of these kids is Young, emotionally whacked, unable to handle his feelings and rarely reported to authorities as being a potential danger to himself or others. They are socially awkward, teased, bullied, austracised, a loner with few if any close friends, many on some psycho type drug or drugs etc. Rarely are they older men who have gotten past the lunacy that is youth for some kids. They have no real job or religious or politicall beliefs. They are rarely popular, may feel unattractive, and areoften from a broken home and have parents who are more worried about their divorce and its issues than they are about their kids and their welfare.

    20. The vast majority of other murders in which 1-4 people are killed are a result of domestic violence, drugs, gangs, illegal aliens/ gangs/ drugs and inner city illegal activity and cultural rot. These kids are rarely well educated, rarely have a father in their life. The inner city/ african american youth are made fun of and called uncle toms or race traitors if they learn to speak proper English, get good grades, dont have tattos everywhere, dont have premature sex or even kids out of wedlock. The mother always comes out after they are shot or do the shooting claiming he is a great boy, never done nothing wrong, or was just getting his life turned around. When in actuality they have a wrap sheet an arms length long. How many you tube videos do we have with black youths doing flash mobs ransacking some store and never being arrested for it?

  • bg
  • Highlander

    Who are they kidding? Anyone knows that these same 28 people could have been killed just as easily with a couple .22 pistols or a pump action shotgun … or a bomb or a baseball bat for that matter. This knee-jerk rush to pass anti-gun legislation has nothing to do with banning “assault weapons” or protecting children, and everything to do with eliminating our right to bear arms and the Second Amendment in it’s entirety.

    Make no mistake … banning “assault weapons” would simply be step one in the progressive liberals’ lifelong dream plan to eliminate all guns, and they will be the first ones to tell you that. If they happen to succeed in banning a certain list of “assault weapons”, they will immediately begin working on broadening the definition of “assault weapon” until it encompasses all guns. I know that, you know that, they know that, and anyone who DOESN’T know that is a complete moron …

    We all knew there would be a push for gun control when Obama was elected, and Fast and Furious was our first insight into just how far these people were willing to go to achieve their goal. Now I’m left wondering if we’ve grossly underestimated them. These shootings are playing right into their hand, and although I’m not prone to getting caught up in conspiracy theories, it sure seems awful coincidental that all this mayhem has broken loose during Obama’s Presidency. If, now that he’s secured four years of consequence-free governance, we see a sudden uptick in heartbreaking incidents like this, it will be difficult not to conclude that there is some sort of connection. We already established that there are plenty of people in this administration who would embrace a string of tragedies like this if it would serve to advance their anti-gun agenda.

    Rest assured, all eyes are going to be on these people now, looking for any link between them and this recent string of shootings. They’d better hope they don’t have anything to do with them, because if they do, the backlash they suffer will be severe.

    I certainly hope that this IS all just coincidence though, and that calmer minds will prevail in this rush to blame guns for this senseless violence, However, I’m not holding my breath at this point. I fully expect this administration to use these tragedies as a platform to launch an all-out assault on the Second Amendment, regardless of whether they’ve had anything to do with them or not…

  • Kate

    When liberals start caring about the wholesale killing of babies and protecting the mentally ill and the public, then maybe I could at least not call them hypocrites. We aren’t going to roll over and give up our guns. These people don’t even know what the Constitution is all about and just why it was written. Why don’t they all go live in Europe and live there with the failures of socialism and marxism? Why destroy the US?

  • Disgusted

    After reading all these comments … I am amazed at how litte regard is given to the lives of the children and adults that were killed in this massacre. America is civlized???? America is the number one nation???? America …. the nation of Freedom…. free to kill children and anyone because we are free to arm ourselves with the weapons we use to kill terrorist in the rest of the world. Who are the terrorist now? America is out of control!

  • karen

    If his autism was caused by vaccines, are we going to ban those?????

  • gastorgrab

    How many of the most vocal Democrats are up for reelection in 2014?

    I’ll bet there is a connection.

  • Flintstone F.

    #56 Kate

    Liberals don’t believe that an unborn baby is a human being. Some even go as far as to say that if they can’t feed themselves they aren’t yet a person.

    The mentally ill will be dealt with once liberals get a grip on identifying them genetically. They’ll argue until they’re blue in the face that homosexuality is genetic, but what happens when they actually find the “gene?” It isn’t genetic but it sure would put liberals schizophrenic principles to the test.

    They point at the constitution and say “I don’t care about that.” The reason they don’t care about “that” is twofold: the white guilt, holier than thou, bending over backward, fake love of black people. Liberals are afraid of black people and think they’re stupid. And second is the fact that the constitution doesn’t specifically support abortion.

    Yes, they are that dumb.

  • Flintstone F.


    Gun-free zones are specific targets of deranged people bent on mass murder.

    Guns exist.

    Once you get over your emotions, come up with a comprehensive plan on how to rid the country of guns and a way Americans can protect themselves from deranged individuals wielding swords, knives and baseball bats or flammable liquids.

    It’s make-believe to think the problem is the gun.

    All of those who post here have closed their eyes and said multiple prayers with heavy hearts, for all the people whose lives have been destroyed. You fail to realize the on topic nature of these posts.

  • Popul

    Let’s ban traitorous anti-2nd Amendment Democrats instead.

  • if the mentally ill were a big enough voting bloc you can bet that they would be getting all the care they need and then some at the expense of the american worker.

    feinstein; never let a crisis go to waste

  • Mannie

    Molon Labe. There will be resistance. There will be blood.

  • jtb012u340

    Yes, diane feinstein the sprinkled confirmed roman catholic is promising more gun control and the killing of innocent people just like her roman catholic counterparts in history who passed the SAME EXACT gun control laws we have now. Those roman catholic counterparts would be Adolf Hitler, Joe Stalin, Vladimir Lenin, Fidel Castro et al who are responsible for the deaths of more than 50 million people (what’s 28 more anyways??).

    It seems when you stupid roman catholics show up anywhere, anytime with your vaticanus and sinaiticus manuscripts the whole world goes back to the dark ages. Or at least that is what PAST history shows.

    120 wars in 60 years sponsored by the Roman Catholic led UN. 2 wars every year, 1 war every 6 months. Nice “peace-keeping” forces Rome. Bloody friggin killers.

  • bg


    re: squeaky #52 December 16, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    1979 Mental Health Reform Act

    via NYT – October 30, 1984


    [They’ve Gone Far, Too Far’

    In California, for example, the number of patients in state mental hospitals reached a peak of 37,500 in 1959 when Edmund G. Brown was Governor, fell to 22,000 when Ronald Reagan attained that office in 1967, and continued to decline under his administration and that of his successor, Edmund G. Brown Jr. The senior Mr. Brown now expresses regret about the way the policy started and ultimately evolved. ”They’ve gone far, too far, in letting people out,” he said in an interview.

    Dr. Robert H. Felix, who was then director of the National Institute of Mental Health and a major figure in the shift to community centers, says now on reflection: ”Many of those patients who left the state hospitals never should have done so. We psychiatrists saw too much of the old snake pit, saw too many people who shouldn’t have been there and we overreacted. The result is not what we intended, and perhaps we didn’t ask the questions that should have been asked when developing a new concept, but psychiatrists are human, too, and we tried our damnedest.”]

    Electronic Journal of Sociology (1998)

    Ronald Reagan and the Commitment of the Mentally Ill:
    Capital, Interest Groups, and the Eclipse of Social Policy


    Conventional wisdom suggests that the reduction of funding for social welfare policies during the 1980s is the result of a conservative backlash against the welfare state. With such a backlash, it should be expected that changes in the policies toward involuntary commitment of the mentally ill reflect a generally conservative approach to social policy more generally. In this case, however, the complex of social forces that lead to less restrictive guidelines for involuntary commitment are not the result of conservative politics per se, but rather a coalition of fiscal conservatives, law and order Republicans, relatives of mentally ill patients, and the practitioners working with those patients. Combined with a sharp rise in homelessness during the 1980s, Ronald Reagan pursued a policy toward the treatment of mental illness that satisfied special interest groups and the demands of the business community, but failed to address the issue: the treatment of mental illness


    The concerns of the general public were also mobilized in the context of fear over the possibility of a patient committing a violent or otherwise anti-social act. Media attention paid to the problems of the mental health system tended to concentrate in two areas: the growing homelessness problem of the early 1980s and the possibility of criminal acts committed by deinsitutionalized patients. Throughout the 1970s and 1980s, hundreds of thousands of mentally ill people concentrated in the inner cities. With the rise of gentrification during the 1980s, many of them became displaced from their relatively affordable housing and were unable to fin d new accommodations. Many of these patients had lost contact with family members and were unable to work, and many did not have health insurance. Thus, they were unable to receive mental health services in the private sector. Media coverage of the growin g homeless problem helped to pressure legislators in many states to rewrite commitment laws to extend the net and make the streets “safer.”

    This media attention played into, and supported, the growing perception of violent crime as a problem in the United States. The Reagan Administration answered this general alarm by calling for quick and severe punishment of offenders. For those offenders who were not mentally ill, prison was normally seen as the solution (Gans, 1995). For the mentally ill however, involuntary committment seemed the best answer. Either way, quick removal of individuals threatening the social order fit well with the administration’s “law and order” stance (LaFond and Durham, 1992, 114).

    The new laws, however, were not intended to make it easier to commit the dangerous mentally ill. Rather, the new laws had more general application and made it easier to commit those only considered a threat (Lafond & Durham, 1992, 118). In addition to this, many of the existing liberal justices began to rule on a “right of treatment” clause rather than a straight civil libertarian viewpoint. The result was that at both the state and federal level, the court became increasingly reluctant to strike down legislation that broadened the definition of who was eligible for involuntary commitment (119). Again, this more stringent approach meshed well with the “law and order” stance taken by the administration.]


  • bg


    jtb012u340 #65 December 16, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    imbecile we much??

    amd whatever you;’re on, i don’t want any part of it…


  • Patty


    [Video] Innocents Betrayed — The True Story of Gun Control

    Documentary showing that “gun control” has historically been used to disarm citizens and make them helpless before governments commit genocide. Dramatically covers major genocides in the Soviet Union, Germany, Uganda, Rwanda, China, Turkey, and other countries.Shows how “gun control” in the U.S. has been used to victimize blacks, Indians, children, women, and others.Combines gut-level emotional appeal and fast-paced, powerful graphics with a cool statement of historic facts and quotes from the relevant laws.

  • bg


    Flintstone F. #60 December 16, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    hah, some, ie: Obama.. don’t even
    believe BORN BABIES ARE HUMAN.. 🙁

    February 29, 2012

    Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say

    [Parents should be allowed to have their newborn babies killed
    because they are “morally irrelevant” and ending their lives is
    no different to abortion, a group of medical ethicists linked to
    Oxford University has argued.]

    March 03, 2012

    Throwing down the gauntlet

    [Rather than being “actual persons”, newborns were “potential
    persons”. They explained: “Both a fetus and a newborn certainly
    are human beings and potential persons, but neither is a ‘person’
    in the sense of ‘subject of a moral right to life’.

    “We take ‘person’ to mean an individual who is capable of attributing to her own existence some (at least) basic value such that being deprived of this existence represents a loss to her.”

    As such they argued it was “not possible to damage a newborn by
    preventing her from developing the potentiality to become a person
    in the morally relevant sense”.]

    March 12, 2012

    The pro-choice case for infanticide.

    [When circumstances occur after birth such that they would have justified abortion, what we call after-birth abortion should be permissible. … We propose to call this practice ‘after-birth abortion’, rather than ‘infanticide,’ to emphasize that the moral status of the individual killed is comparable with that of a fetus … rather than to that of a child. Therefore, we claim that killing a newborn could be ethically permissible in all the circumstances where abortion would be. Such circumstances include cases where the newborn has the potential to have an (at least) acceptable life, but the well-being of the family is at risk.]

    March 19, 2012

    Congresswoman: We’re Not ‘Promoting Sterilization’
    of College Girls, We’re Just Making It Free, 3/19/12

    [Rep. Schakowsky said:“You know, this attack on women’s health care is–I think the compromise that the president has offered and that the rulemaking from HHS, I think, is a good one. This is not about, you know, college-age girls getting sterilization when they want it–no.”

    “I mean, there may be situations where for medical reasons and
    in consultation with the doctor that sterilization procedures are
    warranted for the health of a young woman,” said Schakowsky.

    “Contraception and related procedures, contraception was declared one of the top 10 preventive health services of the 20th century by the Centers for Disease Control,” said Schakowsky, “and the reason for these regulations is to protect the health of women, women of all ages, so that they can afford to get the preventive care that they need.”]

    to be continued..


  • bg


    re: #69 December 16, 2012 at 8:17 pm bg continued..

    October 8, 2012

    U.S One of Four Nations to OK Late
    -Term Abortions for Any Reason …

    [Planned Parenthood Works to Maintain U.S. Position as One of
    Four Nations in the World with the Most Radical Pro-Abortion Policies

    As Planned Parenthood prepares to celebrate its 96th birthday in October, Americans United for Life launches a month-long series of revelations – the release of “The Planned Parenthood Exhibits,” the continuing case for investigating the nation’s largest abortion provider. Each day in the month of October, AUL will release a new backgrounder that highlights grounds for investigating and, ultimately, de-funding Planned Parenthood, which receives more than one million dollars a day in taxpayer subsidies.]

    November 28, 2012

    Now sick babies go on death pathway: Doctor’s haunting
    testimony reveals how children are put on end-of-life plan

    and a bit of good news:

    November 29, 2012

    Planned Parenthood mandates abortions; affiliates flee

    [“Planned Parenthood of South Central New York is the latest affiliate to become independent because it won’t comply with the rule,” Marjorie Dannenfesler, president of the Susan B. Anthony List, said in a statement today.]

    bottom line:

    “You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!


  • Amash

    Ok, now I get it . Any inanimate object that may result in death when a human chooses to control said oject is to be banned.
    Objects used to perform abortions oh! Wait a minute. Libs will never stand o his.

  • mark1973

    #34, Geez i’m not sure,why don’t you ask the taliban and al queda in afghanistan, since they seem to be doing a pretty good job with small arms against all our technology. Kinda of like the NVA and Viet Cong did against us and the french in Vietnam. #57, You could care less about the Victim’s all you want to do is Ban our Firearms so we can be enslaved.

  • Time

    When people start to realize, understand this is NOT about saving lives, reducing crime. It is about disarming the American population to a status that will not be able to fight back. That this country will be infiltrated when they are reduced to sling shots. If you half witted people do not get that by now, nothing will make up your mind until it happens.

  • bg


    Patty #68 December 16, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    thank you..

    “The social experiment in China under Chairman Moa’s leadership
    is one of the most important and successful in human history.”

    ~ David Rockefeller

    Secrets of Communism (by any other name)

    Murder by Communism (by any other name)

    “You ain’t seen nothn’ yet!”

    ~ Barry Dunham Soetoro Barack Hussein Obama
    (by any other factual, fictitious, composite names)


  • Highlander

    #73 – Let them try. It’s going to be a long, bloody battle. The can have my gun when they pry my cold dead hands from it …

  • Linda

    #73 December 16, 2012 at 8:48 pm
    Time commented:


  • Time

    @ #57
    Who are the terrorists ? Why not go find out who the heck they are that are targeting our kids, young adults and making them into killers. There you will find who the terrorists are. I am sick of people like you trying to sway this crisis and others like it when the proof is there before you. In no other time has this nation fallen to so many mass, lone gunman attacks then now. 13-15 in one year. This is over the top and way more then anyone at any time before has seen or beared. When we are starting to eat our own and agendas are on the table look to the ones that are moving the agenda and forcing these policies down the people’s throats. Look to the very same people that may be behind these brutal acts that have taken this nation by storm over these past few years. When you have less that die from this insane act then you do from drunk driving, malpractice, drugs, obesity and other causes you come back here and tell me we need to outlaw all of the above. I see no gain from taking away citizens protection other then to enslave them to an over reaching government that is hell bent on controlling you and ushering in a new rule of law without resistance. So you take your sorry, tune and peddle it all you want but the truth is the truth. Facts are facts and you and no one else can alter any of it. The people are finally getting on to what is truly happening and they will not allow it to happen. When these so called politicians want this and try to pass this, let them be the first to give it up. Unarm every last one of their protections, their body guards and their 24/7 protections that sit outside their homes, walk them to and from work and sit quietly as they dine, shop and entertain. It is then that we as a nation will then begin to talk about giving up our arms and turning them into a heap of recycled metal. I am ashamed that anyone cannot see through this for what it is and what the intent is and the end result will be. Yes these people died for a cause that millions do not agree with. But, remember these people did not cause this, did not do this crime. It was the people that wanted a law, wanted an agenda and wanted to enslave the people. They who caused this horrific crime that we are now forced to suffer. May God watch over this nation, protect the people from the savages that live without him in their life..

  • bg
  • Gail

    View what has happened in Austraila after their GUNS WERE BANNED!

  • Gail

    Let’s start with Hollywood Barbara. Isn’t that a city in the state you represent? Let’s BAN all the violence that comes out of your and all the other states that sell violence! Let’s BAN video games, books, Facebook, YouTube! Where the hell do you think they come up with these ideas! I read something today about the Oklahoma City Bomber. How many people did he kill with a load of FERTILIZER??????? I don’t like guns, I don’t shoot guns but I would sure like to have one around in case in these crazy times, when people start to get desperate, I sure would like the chance to defend myself!

  • Time

    Search YouTube, Sandy Hook – Who Are Two Shooters Captured, by johnsmith8369
    You will find what it is you think to be true. What it is they are not telling and what in the end we all must reject. All IN is the only option this time..

  • Gail

    BigKhuna #53. Your post is staggering and mind boggling! I hope you are saving it and sending out mass emails to the House of Representatives and Senate and White House and especially the Main Stream Media. I hope everyone else copies and sends emails out too. I know I am going to.

  • The Bushmaster 23 is not an assault weapon but a semi-automatic rifle.

  • Heavyduty77

    For what it’s worth and just to set the record straight, Connecticut NEVER REPEALED the assault weapons ban and it is currently still in affect. After the Clinton ban expired, Connecticut enacted its own ban on so called “assault” weapons.

  • Look-Out

    Gail’s video was interesting…here’s what the UK wants us to hear and know:

    A “Bobby” (didn’t want to be identified) said, “It’s the criminals that have ’em now, and they’re gonna use ’em.”(about the 3min. mark)


  • Datelne: Newtown, Ct / ‘Sandy Hook Elementary School’:
    ‘Our hearts are broken today:’ President Obama fights off tears in Connecticut school shooting press conference / NY Daily News 12-14-12 By Jonathan Lemire: “The emotional, four-minute address showcased a side of Obama the public has rarely seen. Even some cable TV commentators who are never at a loss for words seemed stunned.”
    OBAMA-HILLARY / circa ‘VILLAGE TIME’: “Hillary’s Wellesley Thesis: The Village Needs an Enemy” Human Events ^ | March 9, 2007 | Amanda B. Carpenter

    “There are no accidents”: Isaac Newton
    “There are no coincidences”: Monty Python
    Nov 8, 2012 Obama Administration Partners With the UN to Attack the Second Amendment……/obama_administration_partners_with_the_un…
    Nov 8, 2012 – … reinforced its support for the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty [ATT], also known as the “Small Arms Treaty.” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has been …

    “….U.N. diplomats said the vote had been expected before Tuesday’s U.S. presidential election but was delayed due to Superstorm Sandy, which caused a three-day closure of the United Nations last week….”

    Obama / circa ‘SANDY HOOK TIME’: His ‘LYING TEARS’
    Jonathan Lemire’s Daily News piece is a case book example of Barack Obama’s ‘Schizophrenic Lie Technique’ on steroids. Americans are the most gullible creatures on planet earth. THEY HAVE STILL NOT FIGURED OUT – AFTER 40 YEARS OF A DEMOCRAT CONGRESS, AND 4 YEARS OF AN OBAMA IN THE OVAL OFFICE – THAT ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES

    Obama / circa QUANTUM TIME 2011: “I have the power to detain Americans… but I won’t” / 2012: .or, rather, “I will” / “Attorney General Secretly Granted Government Ability to Develop and Store Dossiers on Innocent Americans” By Kim Zetter 12.13.12 /
    Obama / circa 2009-2010: His ‘Hate Period’
    “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right
    to be angry! I’m angry!”
    “Don’t you think we’re not keeping score, brother?”
    “Bring it on”
    “Get ready for hand-to-hand combat with your fellow Americans”
    “I want all Americans to get in each others’ faces!”
    “You bring a knife to a fight pal, we’ll bring a gun”
    “Republicans are our enemies”
    “Hit back twice as hard.”
    “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick. “
    ”Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
    “It’s time to fight for it.”
    “Punish your enemies”: Obama to Latino supporters
    “I’m itching for a fight.”
    “They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back” / about Republicans

    Obama / circa 2011: His ‘Love Period’
    “We can’t leave our values at the door,”
    “I know that far too many neighbors in our
    country have been hurt and treated
    unfairly over the last few years. And I believe
    in God’s command to love thy neighbor as thyself,”

    Obama / circa 2012 Campaign: His ‘Hate Period’
    “Don’t you think we’re not keeping score, brother?”
    “Bring it on”
    “Get ready for hand-to-hand combat with your fellow Americans”
    “I want all Americans to get in each others’ faces!”
    “You bring a knife to a fight pal, we’ll bring a gun”
    “Republicans are our enemies”
    ”Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
    “Punish your enemies”: Obama to Latino supporters
    “I’m itching for a fight.”
    “They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back” / about Republicans

    REFRAIN: Sing along, America; “Elections have consequences!”

    Obama / circa QUANTUM TIME 2011: “I have the power to detain Americans… but I won’t” / 2012: .or, rather, “I will” / “Attorney General Secretly Granted Government Ability to Develop and Store Dossiers on Innocent Americans” By Kim Zetter 12.13.12 /

    OBAMA-HILLARY / circa ‘VILLAGE TIME’: “Hillary’s Wellesley Thesis: The Village Needs an Enemy” Human Events ^ | March 9, 2007 | Amanda B. Carpenter

    “There are no accidents”: Isaac Newton
    “There are no coincidences”: Monty Python
    Nov 8, 2012 Obama Administration Partners With the UN to Attack the Second Amendment……/obama_administration_partners_with_the_un…
    Nov 8, 2012 – … reinforced its support for the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty [ATT], also known as the “Small Arms Treaty.” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has been …
    “….U.N. diplomats said the vote had been expected before Tuesday’s U.S. presidential election but was delayed due to Superstorm Sandy, which caused a three-day closure of the United Nations last week….” (and, very close to 42nd St. & 1st is a Bridge for sale.)

    Obama / circa ‘SANDY HOOK TIME’: His ‘LYING TEARS’
    Jonathan Lemire’s Daily News piece is a case book example of Barack Obama’s ‘Schizophrenic Lie Technique’ on steroids. Americans are the most gullible creatures on planet earth. THEY HAVE STILL NOT FIGURED OUT – AFTER 40 YEARS OF A DEMOCRAT CONGRESS, AND 4 YEARS OF AN OBAMA IN THE OVAL OFFICE – THAT ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES

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