Obama Skips Christmas Statement But Issues Statement for Fake Holiday Kwanzaa

Barack Obama did not release a special statement for Christmas this year.
From the White House website:

But, Barack Obama did issue a statement in celebration of the fake holiday Kwanzaa on Monday December 26.
From the White House website:

Michelle and I send our warmest wishes to all those celebrating Kwanzaa this holiday season. Today marks the beginning of the week-long celebration honoring African American heritage and culture through the seven principles of Kwanzaa — unity, self determination, collective work and responsibility, cooperative economics, purpose, creativity, and faith.

We celebrate Kwanzaa at a time when many African Americans and all Americans reflect on our many blessings and memories over the past year and our aspirations for the year to come. And even as there is much to be thankful for, we know that there are still too many Americans going through enormous challenges and trying to make ends meet. But we also know that in the spirit of unity, or Umoja, we can overcome those challenges together.

As families across America and around the world light the red, black, and green candles of the Kinara this week, our family sends our well wishes and blessings for a happy and healthy new year.

To be fair, the president did send out a Christmas card… But it did not refer to Christ or Christmas. It was a picture of Bo the dog.

More… RedBeard added:

Where’s Obama’s Festivus statement? If one fake holiday deserves a statement, then all fake holidays should rate a statement.

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  • zooomzooom

    Huck Fim.

  • zooomzooom

    And God Bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (hit Post to quick)

  • Patty

    So many people, So many different views. I suppose you can’t expect any thing more or less.

    I am surprised that Wright was a part of their Christmas for 20 years. So this? no surprise.

  • Sally Quinnette

    Jim, why do you continue to harp on all of this. We KNOW that he’s no American, and doesn’t mean a word of the oath of office he took. We KNOW the MSM is in the tank for him and that they want the USA to fail. We KNOW that liberals are rebelling against us who are nothing more than decent, honest hardworking Americans wishing that our pols represented our values.

    But they don’t. For that we are at fault. We voted them in, or at least we were outnumbered by the duplicitous MSM and the numerous numbskulls among us such as the welfare class who will always vote themselves a pay raise by pandering pols.

    We have our work ahead of us. Rather than bemoaning all of these terrible things, which of course are terrible for the welfare of the United States, we’d be better off being given information with which we can then take to opinion molders and neighbors in the effort to persuade them.

  • Fionnagh

    “…many African Americans and all Americans …”

    There’s that division again. Are not “African Americans” A PART OF “all Americans?” Why must a distinction be made?

  • #4 bing………..

  • Ladue Pundit

    “…the red, black, and green candles of the Kinara”

    Yes, those three special Islamic colors we see on the flags of countries overrun by Muslims, what a coincidence.

    Red, white, and blue–too colonial. This fraud of a holiday was invented in CA.

    Jim, you listed 8 principles above. I guess being able to add runs counter to Kwanzaa.

    What are those 8 priciples again? dis-unity, self-destruction, collective work avoidance and irresponsibility, cooperative economic collapse, no purpose, creative wealth redistribution, and faith in Al’lah.

  • RedBeard

    Where’s Obama’s Festivus statement? If one fake holiday deserves a statement, then all fake holidays should rate a statement.

  • greenfairie

    I lived in No. VA and worked in D.C.. Many of my co-workers and acquaintances were black and I can count on one hand the number of them who bothered with Kwanzaa, just Christmas and New Year’s Eve church services.

    Around the world? No one at all outside of the U.S. celebrates Kwanzaa. It has about as much history and significance as Festivus and Talk Like A Pirate Day.

  • Ladue Pundit

    HOW MANY here heard the story of the man who dressed in a Santa suit and murdered his entire family? It happened a couple days ago in Grapevine, TX.

    HE WAS A MUSLIM who was upset because his daughter adopted Western ways, and his wife left him. Can you say HONOR KILLINGS?

    Kwanzaa is a black supremacist celebration deliberately placed on the calendar one day after Christmas. This is no mistake. The NOI celebrates it openly in Chicago.

    The media gives us no truth behind any of these stories. THANK YOU JIM HOFT for “continuing to harp” on the TRUTH.

  • jhump

    #4 December 27, 2011 at 4:35 pm
    Sally Quinnette commented:

    Sally, Jim runs a conservative blog, physically attends conservative seminars/pacs, supports candidates and attends their events, including troop support and Tea Party events. What else can he do? Better yet, let’s here a few of your efforts/ideas. I mean other than complaining about a blog articles.

  • alsj

    “collective work”- more marxist commentary from our fake marxist president about a fake marxist holiday. Seems as if too many black people missed the sound of the chains they wore as slaves and have substituted the chains of words for their hearing comfort.

  • TK

    HOW MANY here heard the story of the man who dressed in a Santa suit and murdered his entire family? It happened a couple days ago in Grapevine, TX.

    More here: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/12/force-the-media.html

  • Bubba

    You Americans should be so ashamed of yourselves, it’s a wonder any of you can even leave the house. Honestly–how the hell can your so called “perfect system” allow such a disgrace like Obama ever to smell up the WH?

    The guy doesn’t even try to hide the fact that he disdains everything that defines America. Not only that, he’s openly flaunting this disdain. He’s mocking his detractors through his over the top outrageous behaviour, and, make no mistake about it, laughing himself silly at how obvious he is about it.

    When the guy goes through the bare minimum of honoring the troops, and then takes off and goes golfing on Memorial day, he’s giving a huge “f*ck you” finger to everyone who whines about him not caring about the military, or the “military tradition.”

    And, when he goes out of his way to load the “holiday tree” with decorations that have nothing whatsoever to do with Christ, when he fails to make any mention of Christmas with a “it just goes without saying” traditional statement, he’s doing one thing–openly MOCKING the “fools” (his opinion) who get excited about this silly (his opinion) holiday.

    How can you idiot Americans live with yourselves, knowing you have allowed such a smelly turd to sneak into office??

    Most puzzling of all, is that instead of it being an absolute foregone conclusion that this loser is going to be a one term President, it’s looking like he’s got a pretty damn good chance of being re-elected.

    No offense, but you idiot Americans are a shameful, disgraceful lot. Your stupidity and “broken system” is ruining not only your fine country, but the entire world.

    Thanks, losers. Thanks a lot!!

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  • Its the perfect holiday for our racist -marxist-president to celebrate………..Kwanzaa was started by another racist-marxism professor in 1966 as black answer to Christmas…………just sayin

  • Kwanzaa is about as relevant at the Whig Party lol

  • Redwine

    And he insulted Jews with his disgraceful Hanukkah message.

  • Rhoda R

    Bubba, sorry but we have this thing called “elections”. Elections have consequences. Am I happy about it? No. Obviously not at all, but none-the-less he is our elected President and will remain so until he is impeached (and with a Democratic Senate that is unlikely) or voted out. Which we hope to do in November. In the mean time take your attitude, crumple it up into a shiny spikey ball and shove it where the sun don’t shine.

  • gus

    Hey Bubba. What country are you from, and why doesn’t YOUR country lead the world.

  • Adi

    “Where’s Obama’s Festivus statement?”

    The taxpayer bill for Him and His family CHRISTMAS vacation.

    Now there the Obamas *do* make a statement. Wonderful.

  • Adi

    Btw: it is not like He skipped Easter and didn’t miss other holiday statements, did He?

  • Black Sabbath

    The Obamas really do hate us all, don’t they?

  • Path

    It’s his Christmas/whatever card and he can do what he wants. Doesn’t work for me that, that’s America, right? I can’t believe that he spent $40. Forty dollars on a bone – a bone for a dog. I love dogs; I have two but, come on, $40. for a bone? Not to mention the, “did he or didn’t he” have the dog flown back from Hawaii for the photo op. Sadly, with this one I’d be willing to believe that.

  • Joanne

    Obama hates Christians and Jews, like all good muslims.

  • Didn’t Jesus say that by their fruit we will know who are his??

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  • Sam Stone

    And STILL no statement issued from the WH or the State Department on the religious cleansing of Christians in Nigeria by the Islamists.

    If these were gay nightclubs being blown up there would have been a statement and the statement would have included a mention of foreign aid.

  • Sam Stone

    Does anyone really still believe Obama is a Christian?

  • Pyrate BILL I YAM I YAM


    “#9 December 27, 2011 at 4:54 pm”



  • Joanne
  • Sam Stone

    Bubba commented: “your so called “perfect system””

    I will ask that you find anyone who ever such a thing and post it here.

    Such a false premise makes the rest of the comment irrelevant.

  • Mike in VA

    not an OweBama fan at all. but… this was released Dec 24th



    The A$$wipe doesn’t celebrate Xmas like Christians and Americans do….mooslime POS celebrates the “greatest sound to his ears” the call to BS mecca…total dousche bag

  • anna

    For their Kwanzaa celebration the obama family will wear formal wear with little Barry wearing a tie. Christmas Mass, not so much…

  • Granny

    #35 December 27, 2011 at 6:35 pm
    #1AMERICAN commented:

    The A$$wipe doesn’t celebrate Xmas like Christians and Americans do….mooslime POS celebrates the “greatest sound to his ears” the call to BS mecca…total dousche bag

    Yes, he clearly stated some time ago – years – that they do not celebrate Christmas or birthdays.

  • ruready?

    Let’s see which republican candidate mentions this in their campaigning. Don’t hold your breath. Maybe Eric Holder was closer to right than we want to admit- a nation of cowards (at least a cowardly slate of republican wannabees).

  • Freddy

    Is Obama the first President to ignore a national holiday?

    I guess Obama thinks he is some sort of god as man, and the god Obama will decide for the rest of us what is meaningfull.

    I think Obama is an absurd ego-maniac that everyone must viligantly watch as he may well attempt to overthrow the US Constitution and install himself as dictator.

  • You mean this message? Everybody else could find it. You aren’t good at this googling thing, are you? (Yeah, and it’s on whitehouse.gov, too.)

  • Adi


    Yep, there is a problem with google so it seems: it can find the Obamas message for the troops (the fact you re-labeled it as Christmas message doesn’t help) and it can find the Obamas message for Ramadan. Amazingly (not) enough there isn’t a *Christmas* message from the “royal family of the United States”.

    As per: http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-and-releases

    Yes, I know you leftist lot go to a lot of “intellectual” genuflections and contraptions in order to justify your creed and moral relativism, but sometimes not even “google” helps. :sniff: :sniff:

  • lizzy84

    Can we pay him to stay in Hawaii and just leave us alone?

  • valerie

    This guy sat in on Rev. Wright’s sermons for 20 years without protests. Why would he believe in anything associated with Christians?

  • JPL17

    Come on, it makes PERFECT sense for Obama to send out a Kwanzaa message, because Obama clearly shares ALL the values of Kwanzaa, namely:

    unity (as in “Workers of the world, unite”);

    self determination (as long as your “self” is “determined” by the Party);

    collective work and responsibility (meaning “socialism + centrally-planned economy”);

    cooperative economics (again, “socialism + centrally-planned economy”);

    purpose (as long as your “purpose” is Party-approved);

    creativity (as long as what you “create” is consistent with socialist realism); and

    faith (i.e., in the Party).

    Obama is the most successful prank ever pulled in human history — and courtesy of the greatest pranksters in human history — namely, Marx, Lenin, Alinsky, and the U.S. mainstream media.

  • J. Descartes

    All civilized men can celebrate a holiday promoted by the annointed for people that worship a racist who tortured two women. Kawanza is a holiday celebrating Air Jourdans, Rev Wright and the building of American by unicorns and magic beans.

    We are the 99%.

    All Hail the Black East Gerbil! Obama be thine name.

  • Joel

    Hey, I just finished another round of golf…what’s going on???

  • [email protected]

    MERRY CHRISTMAS OBozo and Mooch!!! 🙂

  • Sasja

    OT. But when I think of The Evil One and those like him..on both sides of the aisle..I harken back to when I first read these words while in high school.

    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot
    survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable,
    for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves
    amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through
    all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the
    traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents
    familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments,
    he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He
    rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to
    undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that
    it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the
    Marcus Tullius Cicero. A Roman philosopher, statesman, lawyer, and Roman constitutionalist.

  • Joanne

    And Sasja, the U.S. is full of traitors.

  • Sasja

    Joanne, sadly, that is true.

  • Beth

    Kawanza is a made up holiday for black folks who can’t stand the fact that they are Americans!
    They want nothing to do with the country that was founded by white folks who eventually (republicans) abolished slavery. Makes me sad that they can’t embrace their Christian roots.

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  • Patty


    December 27, 2011
    Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton Again Top Most Admired List
    Clinton Most Admired Woman a record 16th time

    Palin makes the list and Bush is second to Obama. Just wonder what is wrong in America when Michelle Obama is above Palin. Admired Clinton? 16th time. Again what is wrong in America.

    She was shot at in Bosnia

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  • Patty

    Federal judge: For blacks, ‘voting rights’ include identifying Democrats on ballots

    A U.S. District Court judge has rejected a challenge to Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 — filled when the Department of Justice barred the city of Kinston, N.C. from holding nonpartisan elections — reasoning that lack of access to party affiliation would discriminate against minority voters who otherwise wouldn’t know how to find Democratic candidates on a ballot.

    The challenge was initiated after the Justice Department rejected a 2008 referendum vote in which the city of Kinston voted to stop listing candidates’ party affiliations on ballots.

    Under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, the Justice Department must approve changes to election law in regions with a history, however distant, of racial discrimination.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/26/federal-judge-for-blacks-voting-rights-include-identifying-democrats-on-ballots/#ixzz1hnfaGfXp
    read more @ Link

  • Patty

    Molon Labe

    Me too.

  • Patty

    54 and 57 are OT’s

  • Patty

    #52 December 27, 2011 at 9:29 pm
    Beth commented:

    Kawanza is a made up holiday for black folks who can’t stand the fact that they are Americans!
    They want nothing to do with the country that was founded by white folks who eventually (republicans) abolished slavery. Makes me sad that they can’t embrace their Christian roots.

    I have wondered why Italians, Greeks, Germans, and many others don’t have some special Christmas Holiday. Kidding but this topic is pretty sickening.

    I am waiting for the Muslims to have their special day. Hummm! Muslim students can now where their special clothing in colleges. That’s another thing that makes me a bit ill.

  • Callipygian1

    Question: How many $10 pizzas could you buy with Michelle’s vacation?

    Answer: 400,000

  • Vicky Hernandez

    No problem. Benjamin Netanyahu pinch-hit very nicely:
    PM Netanyahu’s Christmas Greetings 2011

  • LiveFreeOrDie1776

    My favorite gem is, “cooperative economics”. The best Marxist propagandist could not come up with a better double speak than this. “Coercive collectivist economics” would be much more apropos.

    Obama is a symptom of a very soul sick and uneducated voting public.

  • the christians will still vote for him.

  • Island Girl

    Never heard of this Kwanza thing.

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  • RedBeard

    Do you defenders of Obama have anything to add about his recognition of the totally fabricated and racially divisive “holiday” of kwanzaa (small “k” because it deserves no more)? Do you even know what it is, how it was created, and by whom? Or do you just not care?

    Just for clarification, before the usual left-wing screamers start with their “Bush did it too!” defense, let me say that Bush’s actions in legitimizing the racist holiday were just as shameful and unacceptable.

    This is America. Except for those non-citizens who arrived here recently, we’re all supposed to be Americans, period. Not Africans, not Europeans, not Asians, just unhyphenated Americans. But I guess that’s just too difficult a concept for the leftie imbeciles and PC purveyors to grasp.

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  • TCII

    He can go f himself. The perfect Manchurin candidate. Muslim Mole. Who the hell is this piece of crap. Not my president.

  • Alej

    Merry Nigmas to all, and to all, a good night !

  • Denny

    What did you expect from a Muslim who doesn’t believe in Jesus Christ. This man, Obama, and his administration are none believers, tthey only believe in themselves. They are the most corupt bunch I have ever seen in office in all my 70 years. And the Republicans, they will not stnd firm against them The house speaaker just keeps caving in. And if a new face trys to run, the smear campaigns heat up till most Americans do not know what to believe.

    Obama doesn’t believe in Christmas, why should he celibrate it?

  • An American Gal

    I am a Christian that, amongst the holiday festivities, makes a point of both honoring and teaching–first my children and now my great-niece that I am helping to raise–that the true reason for Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Christ, my Savior. With that in mind, I am glad that we are spared the hipocrasy of his pretending to honor Christ’s birth.

    As to Kwanzaa, what more can you expect from a faker and pretender?? Perhaps one of the reasons for his celebrating a fake African holiday (it was made up by a black radical that wanted a “blacks-only” holiday) is that he is subconsciously guilty for turning his back on the Kenyan village where he was born; for turning his back on the village that, as a Senator in 1996 he promised to financially help but has never given a penny to despite his and Michelle’s extensive wealth. (He alone earned more in a single month just from his senatorial pay than most of the village families would earn in an entire year.)

    Lastly, how many of you readers have noticed that Barrack Hussein Obama Jr. goes to great lengths to present himself as an ‘African-American man’, thus denying his white mother. It makes me think of an old saying: “Momma’s baby, daddy’s maybe”. Those with a guilty conscious will often go to great lengths to portray themselves the way they want to be, while the truth has a way of seeping through the cracks in the armor.

    Finally, I hope all my fellow Christian Americans, regardless of skin-color or heritage, had a Merry Christmas, and I wish you a God-blessed New Year!!

  • JG Bennet

    What do you expect from a Guy who smiles like this….

    Watch this video his smile never changes. It kinda reminds me of the Grinch

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  • Mark

    This explains it all – http://tinyurl.com/c34wmla

  • AncestralYuba

    Hey! Kwanzaa was invented by a sociologist. What’s not to like? (Sarcasm.)

  • Marion

    Obama and family can kiss my ass and go to hell, or what ever country he came from.

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone.

    God Bless America

  • Jack

    Lets face it all these religious holidays are “made up.” Do any of you really believe that Jesus Christ was born on December 25th, of a virgin? Do any of you believe he was crucified, and rose from the dead? If you believe that crap it proves you are an unthinking moron. Religion is for losers who believe that some Sky Fairy loves them, and will protect them, as long as they “believe” in him. How silly can you get. Did this Sky Fairy protect the people of Japan from the earthquake last year? Does he feed the starving in Africa? Did he save the Jews from Hitler?

    Wake up “Believers” there is no it’s only us, and when we die, we just stop living, and become part of earth, nothing less, nothing more.

  • Erik

    This guy is full of crap. Check Obama’s Christmas Eve message


    What more do you want? He and his wife talk about Christ’s birth, they say christmas at least for time, they talk about love, and they thank the troops for their service. Whether you like Obama or not, this is a perfectly adequate christmas message.

    Stick with real issues, don’t waste your time with this garbage.

  • Hello

    So are all of you morons going to keep ignoring the fact that he opened his 12/24/11 weekly address by wishing a Merry Christmas to everyone?

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  • Abacus Finch

    I don’t understand any of this anger. If you don’t recognize Kwanzaa as a legitimate holiday, you presumably don’t celebrate it, so this doesn’t affect you at all. Never mind that Obama DID issue a Christmas greeting or that George W. Bush issued a Kwanzaa greeting every single year he was in office. Our country has huge, real problems that we need to argue about. This culture war b.s. is great for web hits and TV ratings but is a total waste of your time. Some people like gays, some people don’t. Some people believe in magic, some people are atheists. MOVE ON. Let’s argue about foreign policy or how to reduce unemployment. The world is changing. Old people: stop acting like children.

  • aunty

    Strange how no one has actually been able to find the REAL christmas message he made out there, its on video, and it mentions the troops and even wishes alll americn people a merry christmas, I guess facts are in direct conflict with your decent christian “love tho”
    disgusting but oh so typical
    and no one can admit they have been proven wrong
    despicable excuses for christians

  • aunty

    I bet palin cant even spell Bosnia, let alone work.

  • RedBeard

    And there’s Jack, another very angry atheist, although I’ve never quite understood the anger. No one is preventing atheists from not believing in things, so why the vitriol?

    I’m pretty much of a heathen myself, but the idea of insulting Christianity just because I’m not a churchgoer is quite a foreign concept.

  • bg
  • J Craig

    Kwannnweewee is a lovely holiday when the green of the day meets the gerbils of the night around the holu popcorn bush to celebrate black thursay and rainbow coalition day. Its when Jessie Jackson comes up through the sewers to deliver chicken and waffles to all supporters of the Democratic party who donated. Its a wonderful inclusive holiday celebrated by Craig, Descartes, and Michael Moore. Charlie Scheen gaVE IT UP BECAUSE IT DIDN’T INVOLVE ENOUGH DRUGS.

  • William M.

    Seriously? The weekly address three down from the Kwanzaa statement in that picture is a video address that wishes the entire country a Merry Christmas and the background is adorned with Christmas decorations.

    Criticize his policies, because you can, but this kind of factually inaccurate harping does no one any service. It only undermines the credibility of non-mainstream news outlets. Raise the bar.

  • Tyrus
  • Strudwick Wickerwire

    I knew it, I knew it, I knew it, Omugabe celebrates Kwanzaa!!! The family doesn’t exchange gifts, they celebrate in their [Kwanzaa pit] while fully adorned in celebratory Kwanzaa-gear! I knew it!!!

    The Obuckethead Kwanzaa ceremony takes place in a pit, freshly dug on the grounds of the Hawaiian vacation rental. The pit is some 10 to 15 feet deep, 40′ in diameter, with a fire circle in the middle and for security reasons the pit is covered, with a hole in the center, that creates the requisite sweat required for a ceremonial convergence of Boogaloo. All this while being adorned in the ceremonial loin-cloth and anointed in the all important jive-oil.

    Remember, this is coming from a man who wants to end social division and what a way to swim in the mainstream…

    Okay, back to the celebration of Kwanzaa. When adorned and anointed in ceremonial garb and oil, the festivities take-on a one-of-a-kind clinched fist and chant spectacular, while circling in a clock-wise direction with the refrain being, “It’s all whitey’s fault!!!” Repeated to ad nauseam, but undoubtedly it floats his/their boat…

    We should all be thankful we have such a wonderful president — you betcha!!!

    Demand Occubagger-Obonehead and Holder resign immediately!!!

  • lisa

    Actually, Obama did post a Christmas video, thanking the troops and asking the American people to become involved in helping troops and their families.


    And as for the Obama Christmas card, theirs is very much in the tradition of white house christmas cards. Check out George W. Bush’s from 2006


    So basically, you’re wrong.

  • lisa

    Also, as far as kwanzaa being a fake holiday, I don’t disagree, however Christmas is just as fake. The Catholic church decided Christmas would be celebrated Dec. 25th based on a pagan holiday for the birth of the sun god. Noone knows when Jesus was really born.

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  • penis

    None of the holidays you have cited are real. Holidays are a social construct. Why should he offer statements for any of them?

  • bg


    lisa #92 December 28, 2011 at 2:48 pm


    aah GP, i don’t know who feeds you info, but as you can
    see, we have learned to check out the info you feed US..


  • Cobwebhead

    A “special statement” wasn’t released because Obama gave actual speeches on Christmas. try typing “Christmas” into the whitehouse.gov search box.

    From “Remarks by the President at Lighting of the National Christmas Tree”:

    “it’s important for us to keep in mind the central message of this season, and keep Christ’s words not only in our thoughts, but also in our deeds. In this season of hope, let’s help those who need it most –- the homeless, the hungry, the sick and shut in. In this season of plenty, let’s reach out to those who struggle to find work or provide for their families. In this season of generosity, let’s give thanks and honor to our troops and our veterans, and their families who’ve sacrificed so much for us. And let’s welcome all those who are happily coming home.”

    Pretty radical stuff, right?

  • Cobwebhead
  • MarleneElyse

    Wow, I have never seen a group go after someone over a post that is a blatant lie! Not only did he put out a statement with a video, he specifically put ‘Merry Christmas’ (unlike Fox news and the NRA).

    You are all sad. Hey Bubba- newsflash— we all came from Africa-its called migration. Skin color is a response to adaptation to climate.

    Now I know that was a lot for you so you can go back to sleeping with your sister and providing us with more great republicans.

  • Cobwebhead
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  • bg


    lisa #93 December 28, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    tell us something we don’t know..

    [The earliest mention of December 25 as Jesus’ birthday comes from a mid-fourth-century Roman almanac that lists the death dates of various Christian bishops and martyrs. The first date listed, December 25, is marked: natus Christus in Betleem Judeae: “Christ was born in Bethlehem of Judea.”3 In about 400 C.E., Augustine of Hippo mentions a local dissident Christian group, the Donatists, who apparently kept Christmas festivals on December 25, but refused to celebrate the Epiphany on January 6, regarding it as an innovation. Since the Donatist group only emerged during the persecution under Diocletian in 312 C.E. and then remained stubbornly attached to the practices of that moment in time, they seem to represent an older North African Christian tradition.

    In the East, January 6 was at first not associated with
    the magi alone, but with the Christmas story as a whole.

    So, almost 300 years after Jesus was born, we finally find people
    observing his birth in midwinter. But how had they settled on the
    dates December 25 and January 6?

    There are two theories today: one extremely popular, the other
    less often heard outside scholarly circles (though far more ancient).


    Around 200 C.E. Tertullian of Carthage reported the calculation that the 14th of Nisan (the day of the crucifixion according to the Gospel of John) in the year Jesus diedc was equivalent to March 25 in the Roman (solar) calendar.9 March 25 is, of course, nine months before December 25; it was later recognized as the Feast of the Annunciation—the commemoration of Jesus’ conception. Thus, Jesus was believed to have been conceived and crucified on the same day of the year. Exactly nine months later, Jesus was born, on December 25.d

    This idea appears in an anonymous Christian treatise titled On Solstices and Equinoxes, which appears to come from fourth-century North Africa. The treatise states: “Therefore our Lord was conceived on the eighth of the kalends of April in the month of March [March 25], which is the day of the passion of the Lord and of his conception. For on that day he was conceived on the same he suffered.” Based on this, the treatise dates Jesus’ birth to the winter solstice.

    Augustine, too, was familiar with this association. In On the Trinity (c. 399–419) he writes: “For he [Jesus] is believed to have been conceived on the 25th of March, upon which day also he suffered; so the womb of the Virgin, in which he was conceived, where no one of mortals was begotten, corresponds to the new grave in which he was buried, wherein was never man laid, neither before him nor since. But he was born, according to tradition, upon December the 25th.”]

    much more @ link..


  • tom

    I guess because you are all so busy spewing your hate filled comments you missed this.


  • Cobwebhead

    Quiz time: Who said this?

    “During the seven days of Kwanzaa leading up to the New Year, friends and family come together in a spirit of love and joy to honor their rich African heritage, reflect on the Seven Principles, and give thanks for the blessings of freedom and opportunity. Forty years after the first Kwanzaa, this hopeful occasion remains an opportunity to build the bonds of family, community, and culture and move ever closer to the founding promise of liberty and justice for all.”

    Answer: George W. Bush in his 2006 Kwanzaa statement

  • Nickie Stevens

    Most Bu– Sh– from the biggest narcisistic idiot this nation has ever elected as Prez….he and his black wife with him.

  • labradog

    What a bunch of morans you people are.
    The President’s Dec. 24 message – available everywhere on video – specifically included his Christmas message and greetings to Americans.
    Fuc*wits, all of you.

  • Michael James

    The pure vile hatred displayed in most of these comments unveils the true heart of these so called Christians….they are bigoted, ignorant and racist to the core! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you myopic and ill-informed delusionals!

  • Edward

    Hoax and a lie. Well done.

  • LEon

    Racist filth from low brow GOPers. What else is new?

  • LEon

    #104 December 28, 2011 at 4:02 pm
    Nickie Stevens commented:

    Most Bu– Sh– from the biggest narcisistic idiot this nation has ever elected as Prez….he and his black wife with him.

    Spoken like a true blooming idiot. You’re not worthy of licking his shoes.

  • Meechelle

    Hatred and bigotry makes them blind. they can see the ‘statement on Kwanzaa’ from Obama but ignore the same from Bush. They see significance in a Christmas card which was no different from one from Bush. And they do not see the beautiful and well-spoken CHRISTMAS statement from 2 days prior to the statement they are so riled up about. Way to pick and choose and condemn someone for trying to be inclusive of all people rather than hate-filled bile-spewing bigots like you lovely people. Happy New Year!

  • revmar

    It is very frightening that all you haters are walking around. Much of what you posted is not even true. How miserable your lives must be when you spend so much time with hatred. I pray for God’s love to get rid of your irrational anger.

  • bg


    to the last few bigoted vile posts:

    mirror mirror on the wall.. duh-fuhs


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  • Terence

    #54 Patty

    could you possibly be any more ignorant? Comparing that moron Palin to Michelle Obama is beyond ludicrous. You all are commenting on a non existent story that clearly anyone with half a brain can see is not true. not more than 3 CHRISTMAS messages on the white house web site mentioning CHRISTMAS and CHRIST. And now you have that bastion of pandering Trump tweeting this junk.

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  • Pitbullll

    The Obama jackassery continues unabated…..

  • Pitbullll

    Do liberals have anything to say to conservatives other than “you’re a racist/bigot/homophobe”??

  • ratatatat

    You stupid, conservative d-bags are hilarious. You apparently are so frothed-up at this that you all completely missed the Obama’s wishing America a “Merry Christmas” during the President’s weekly address, but (as usual) don’t ever let the facts get in the way.


  • ed

    2012 is coming I don’t think it will be a natural disaster that will destroy us,it will be our president that will destroy us after he loses the election in shame.

  • Questionman

    All of the Obama haters are just jealous, racist individuals who can’t stand seeing a Black man doing something good for this country. He took out Bin laden and a lot of his cohorts that your beloved George Bush could not and did not want to do. Obama want to give everyone health care, but you heaters rather see Americans sick and dying in the streets, but you call yourselves “CHRISTIANS”. Your Bush robbed this country clean so he could further enrich himself and his other rich friends, but you rather hate Obama who’s doing all he can to keep this county from going over the cliff despite of all of the Republican haters in this government who put up road blocks at every chance they get. The bottom line is that you haters hate to see a successful Black man. And thats because it dispels the myth that BLACKS ARE INCAPABLE OF BEING SUCCESSFUL. Just like you haters tried to discredit the famous TUSKEGEE AIRMAN because you were afraid of their success. WHAT A SHAME AND WE ALL SUPPOSE TO BE AMERICANS. THE CIVIL WAR IS OVER AND YOU HATERS LOSS.

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  • Silicon Pioneer


    Plenty, but most liberals have found that it’s rather pointless to attempt to show conservatives the error of their ways when the vast majority are clearly suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect.

  • lowell tate

    I just wish somebody would do him

  • Brenda

    Check out the history of Kwanzaa. Created by a black nationalist who also created an organization that was rival to the black panthers. They had a shootout in the 60’s, killing 2 black panthers. Then he was arrested for kidnapping and torturing 2 females in his organization (1971). Went to prison. Stated in several interviews that kwanzaa was nonsense and he set the December date because that’s when “…bloods would be partying.” Amazing to me how many people don’t know the real story.

    “People think it’s African, but it’s not,” admitted Karenga in a 1978 Washington Post interview. “I put it around Christmas because I knew that’s when a lot of ‘bloods’ [Blacks] would be partying.” The religious satire magazine The Door likewise questioned Kwanzaa’s authenticity. “Karenga cobbled together a mishmash of different traditions and languages and blended them with Marxist ideas to reflect a unified African culture that doesn’t exist anywhere,” it reported. Ujamaa, or “cooperative economics”—one of the seven principles of Kwanzaa—is the term the socialist leader of Tanzania, Julius Nyerere, used for his disastrous policy of putting tens of thousands of Tanzanians on collective farms.

  • idiots of america

    You all are stupid. If you are worried about Christmas not being recognized then you have bigger problems in life. You are all racist pigs who cannot stand the fact that the conservatives robbed the country and continue to want to do so. You are just unhappy that your life sucks so you want someone to blame.

  • res08hao

    Obama is a scumbag-of color.

  • ReligiousFreedomsRUs

    Does anyone know.the history of Christmas? It’s not Jesus’ birthday and it doesn’t even represent it because it’s stained by its horrible roots. I was raised catholic, but if Christians had as much respect for history as they have in the bible, they may not be so blind to research, which is why agnostics can sometimes be annoyed talking about religious things like this because. Opinions based on fact as opposed to by faith are rejected by the religious community many times. Dont be blind to reality due to religion, the two can coexist and you can practice any religion but respect the views of others. The middle-east has so many 3rd world countries that crime pays better and promises a happier life. Would you be happy if you lived in a war stricken country permanently? if you lived there you’d be Muslim and wouldn’t be complaining about one person that mentioned a holiday teaching good values just because it isn’t christmas, with its completely perverted and morally wrong and corrupt history that has somehow lost itself along the way as common knowledge. Plus, I was raised Catholic and I believe they have a good message about good morals and values in the present like a lot of religions, but we can’t call Kwanzaa a fake holiday without calling chrismas one too. Religious freedom was one of the main goals of our fore-fathers settling in the U.S., so your opinion is like anyone else’s, it doesn’t have any effect on the truth.

  • DESL

    As are you, apparently