Mitt Romney: It’s Conservative to Have Government Force You to Buy Insurance
Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 4:00 PM
Mitt Rommey says forcing Americans to buy a product in a conservative principle.
As Erick Erickson says:
This isn’t a flash back. This is today. Mitt Romney is again declaring the foundation of Obamacare, the individual mandate, “conservative.”
To be sure, it is conservative that one takes responsibility for their own healthcare. But the conservative solution is not to force Americans to buy a product.
Agreed.
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bear commented:
No, mitt, it’s not Conservative. It’s not even Constitutional.
What a miserable rino.
T. Shaw commented:
If Mutt gets elected he’ll move the White House to Hawaii.
That way, every day he can go to a beach, fill his navel with glue, stick a flag in it, and see which way the wind is blowing.
jhp commented:
I think the dude has a point. Why not cut the free ride and make folks pay for the health care they consume.
And I have no problem at all with posting a bond in lieu of buying insurance.
None of my right wing buddies have insurance and they claim they are self pay. The only problem is none of them have any money and are one serious accident or illness away from sucking the taxpayer teat at the Emergency Room.
Doesn’t seem very conservative to endorse that system. Does it?
zooomzooom commented:
Bye Mitt……….have a nice life.
Mitchell commented:
Obama is easily the worst President since Carter. Unfortunately, Mitt Romney is no Ronald Reagan, waiting to sweep in and restore dignity and sanity. They call the GOP the Stupid Party, and watching them schedule 1000 debates where they tear each other to bits repeatedly really drives their idiocy home.
And the leftist media just keeps helping them out, tearing down one candidate after another until only Mitt is left, because they know from his track record that they can make him look so bad in the general election that Obama will get re-elected.
Dang, I wish Perry hadn’t accidentally leaned sideways and let his brain fall out during debates #371 and #522.
Estragon commented:
Gingrich was saying the exact same thing, only changing his tune after the Tea Party reaction to ObamaCare.
States already force every driver to either buy insurance, prove financial responsibility, or pay a hefty fee for being uninsured. The difference there, of course, is you have the option to park your car and not participate.
But you can’t opt out of health coverage now, either. If you collapse in the Wal-Mart parking lot, they will take you to the ER. Somebody has to pay those fees, and if you have opted out of health insurance and have no money or assets to seize, it falls upon the taxpayer – who also gets no choice in the matter.
Unfortunately for Romney, Obama has so angered the public by forcing his version down everyone’s throats that it is impossible to have a rational conversation on the subject. The fact remains that the health care system is in crisis, and will become too costly for everyone if it doesn’t bankrupt the government first.
Our “choice” is taxpayers pay, or individuals pay – but as long as medical care is guaranteed without payment, there is no opting out.
J JHP commented:
#3
Right on JHP-Craig-Descartes! M7y comrades at the progressive league have absolutely no problem with forcing others to pay insurance for others. They love the Ponzi scheme that is Social Security and really really love Obama care because who can argue that something for nothing is a bad deal, except of course for all the proles who must pay and pay and pay, just like socialist security, nyet?
Doesn’t seem very conservative to endorse this system, nyet?
Right on. Power to the peoples.
It is however most progressive.
One people. one nation, one Obama!
Friendly commented:
Mitt is right, if the alternative is government paying for your care. Mitt is the right skill set for the time. States can do it, Feds cannot. He even understands the constitution better than Bachmann. Quit your whining, free loaders.
mamagriz68 commented:
I just can’t believe there are people out there who can’t wait to vote for this guy. Ugh.
J JHP commented:
No wonder the MSM loves Mutt. He’s such a RINO. A true believer. A new Master cylinder!
Redwine commented:
The frackin’ establishment is forcing McRINO on us again.
Mittens, Crazy Uncle Ron or Comrade Barry Hussein.
What a nightmare. This is so sick.
We Need A Conservative. A Real Conservative. No more. No less.
Pragmatic commented:
Definitely no less; if Massachusetts Mitt is the nominee, I am quitting the Republican Party (not that they would care)!
jhp commented:
“But you can’t opt out of health coverage now, either.”
Sure you can. Simply pay the tax.
It’s the least you can do since you’ll be sucking the taxpayer teat should your gamble go wrong. And believe me, plenty do and will.
Remco Kimber commented:
No. Mitt, forcing citizens to become “personally responsible” is not freedom nor does it even result in people becoming responsible. Such force reduces citizens to subjects.
Freedom is benefiting from personal choices as well suffering any adverse consequences which flow from those choices
Having government as a “safety net” is not freedom as government, which as an entity produces NOTHING, then forces (there’s that word once again) the truly responsible to pay for the irresponsible.
jhp commented:
#7 December 28, 2011 at 4:27 pm
J JHP commented:
#3
“Right on JHP-Craig-Descartes! M7y comrades at the progressive league have absolutely no problem with forcing others to pay insurance for others.”
What in the hell are you talking about? I was quite clear that posting a bond would suffice.
And now somehow ObamaCare forces you to buy insurance for others? Take another toke off the bong and try agin.
Emilie Green commented:
And where exactly is it written that government is to be involved in health matters anyway?
A person decides to smoke. Not a decision I would make, but I respect his/her decision to do so, letting them know in no uncertain terms that their smoking is NOT going to coming my way.
I don’t stop the person from smoking. I don’t encourage the person to smoke. I’m neutral. Live and let live sort of thing.
The person gets cancer from the smoking. Again I’m neutral. You suffer the consequences of your choices. Why should I be forced to pay for your stupid decision to smoke.
Kathy commented:
I must be hearing something wrong. I’ve listened to it 3x and I hear him say, “it’s a conservative principle to have personal responsibility as opposed to turning to govt. for giving out free care.” Isn’t it a conservative principle to have people be personally responsible? What am I missing?? Has the video been edited?
paz commented:
Dr. Ron Paul won’t force you to buy anything, or to buy something for someone else!
jhp commented:
14 December 28, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Remco Kimber commented:
Just curious. Do you find it repressive to being forced to pay for our National Parks?
Even when you don’t use them.
JBD commented:
And the Dod Gamn anal orifices running the Republican party think’s he is the only man who could win.
I have begged God for a modest windfall. I want “None Ofthe Above” to appear on the ballot. If he wins a race the other candidates are taken out and shot. And by God if the race is Obama vs Romney I’d exercise that none of the above option. And I bet it would win.
{^_^}
noislamocommie commented:
Yep…this socialist was endorsed by NWO Bush family.They LOVE OPEN BORDERS!
jhp commented:
#16 December 28, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Emilie Green commented:
And where exactly is it written that government is to be involved in health matters anyway?
A person decides to smoke. Not a decision I would make, but I respect his/her decision to do so, letting them know in no uncertain terms that their smoking is NOT going to coming my way.
I don’t stop the person from smoking. I don’t encourage the person to smoke. I’m neutral. Live and let live sort of thing.
The person gets cancer from the smoking. Again I’m neutral. You suffer the consequences of your choices. Why should I be forced to pay for your stupid decision to smoke.
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So who is gonna pay to raise the dude’s children who dies from lung cancer?
You know. Food. Shelter. Clothing. Health Care. Education. Dentist. Stuff like that.
Ever think of that? Dumbass.
Male Silverback commented:
I hate to say it but this is the guy who will be our nominee for President. We are screwed again.
Sure would like to see Santorum move up in his numbers.
twolaneflash commented:
NOTA (none of the above)
Draft Sarah Palin!
Run, Sarah, run!
retire05 commented:
#18 Paz, no, Paul won’t force you to buy health insurance, but we will ALL be forced to purchase firearms to protect ourselves against you Paulbot unemployed stoned slackers who are breaking into our homes to rob us so you can pay for your next “fix”.
#16 jhp who will take care of the dude’s children? There is such a thing as family. Families used to take care of each other before we got Democrats who decided that the government, and not the family, should be responsible for us. Now, instead of Grandma and Grandpa living with their adult children in the twilight of their years, we shove them into nursing homes so we don’t have to be bothered with them because they just might hamper our lifestyles.
But of course, there is NO such thing as “personal” responsibility when the government, even state goverments, get involved. We have become a nanny state, in case you haven’t noticed. Don’t have the means to take care of six kids? No problem, the government will just pick up your responsibility, yada, yada, yada.
Pragmatic commented:
Sarah is looking mighty good now!
Please run Sarah . . .pretty please!?
a former dem commented:
“To be sure, it is conservative that one takes responsibility for their own healthcare. But the conservative solution is not to force Americans to buy a product.”
Agreed. I’ll still back Romney over that marxist fraud in the WH. At least Romney is willing to get rid of RationCare at a national level, the constitutional conservatives can gut it and have more free market solutions to get prices down so more people can have access to healthcare, better healthcare.
Barry wants to shove it down America’s throat. And even openly lied about it in 2008, and then 2009, and then in 2010.
CommieBlaster commented:
Vote for Romney or Gingrich and You and Your Family will Die in a Socialist Hospital according a Formula Approved by Science Czar John Holdren.
http://www.commieblaster.com/RINO/
Rose commented:
I cannot vote for an idiot of THAT magnitude. I voted for him in 2008 – when he was keeping his mouth shut about POLITICS and bragging on his wonderful and attractive family.
UGH! What a close call.
If we are going to have a d####d Marxist for President, let it be a d####d Dimocrat!
Blacque Jacques Shellacque commented:
Ha ha ha. You’re full of it, Mitt.
Oh, and I’m not voting for you. For anything.
smmtheory commented:
As an independent, I use to believe the best thing would be a Congress evenly divided between the two parties so that they couldn’t accomplish anything and that way they would stay out of our business. But the critters fooled me. Now they are so much alike, the only difference between the two sets of thieves is the letter of the party they belong to. One thing is certain. I’m not voting for either Obama or Not-Obama/Obama-II. I’m writing in the name of the only person that actually talks about getting rid of all the corruption. I can’t wait for one of the two parties to keel over dead and start pushing up daisies so that in the ashes something better might arise in its place.
Duh commented:
Republicans lose again, this time not McCain, but Rommny who was second best last time. We need fresh people and new ideas. Rommny is a corportist puppet like Obummer the hater and job killer/
Sasja commented:
You let the libs set the narrative years ago. So now you are dealing with it. These attitudes of I’m not going to pay for some dumb bunny’s health care who (fill in whatever it is you disapprove of), got us here. There will always be people who, for whatever reason, makes a bad decision. I am just sick and tired of this mantra. Some folks will need to be taken care of. Some won’t. Our problem is that those who could take care of themselves don’t because a government will do it for them and requiring people to purchase health insurance is not going to fix that problem. And by the way, those who cannot afford the insurance will be subsidized with your tax dollars. And round and round we go.
Romney is a big government guy and his belief in global warming, or climate change, or whatever the new spiel is, was the straw that broke this camel’s back. Most pols want the power and what it brings, control, especially control over the money. And they want as much of that as they can lay their hands on. I don’t give a rat’s patooty on which side of the aisle they sit.
Multitude commented:
Mitt’s the Republican’s Obama. Hyped accomplishments — actually a mediocre businessman who had quite a few issues with ethics and principals, particularly in getting “made whole” with a profit while partners and taxpayers got shafted, and a lousy governor who had a short term, left office embarrassed as the 48th out of 50 in terms of likeability — and teleprompter presence but simply lacking intrinsic intelligence and the capacity to think without a poll, advisers or a committee formed to study the issue.
Conservatives had better pay careful attention: they have a single shot to get this right. Elect a Romney and get ALL the blame for the collapse of the country Obama has put into action. Romney’s only plus is that he’ll allow the elite Republican insiders to cash out better than if a Democrat was in office, as it all implodes and the nation collapses into an emergency state and likely authoritarian control.
Mitt won’t stop it. He won’t slow it. The tens of millions the fat cats have given him are payoffs for exit money so they can cash out and leave before the collapse. Mitt’s telling you here exactly how he feels about the non-elites: WE CAN TELL YOU WHAT TO DO AND YOU WILL DO IT. He is an imperialist; that’s why he’s getting the donations and the support of the RINO country clubbers.
This man is toxic. Run, don’t walk, unless foolish conservatives want to enable collapse and take the blame for it all.
Anybody But Mitt!
Ladue Pundit commented:
retire05 commented:
“…But of course, there is NO such thing as “personal” responsibility when the government, even state goverments, get involved. We have become a nanny state, in case you haven’t noticed. Don’t have the means to take care of six kids? No problem, the government will just pick up your responsibility, yada, yada, yada.”
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This is the core issue. If people who stiffed hospitals were like the ones who welched on college loans, we’d get somewhere. I’m in the tax business and when someone does not pay back a (fed) student loan, the IRS can swoop in and withhold their refunds. Most states follow.
When a deadbeat’s return is e-filed, it throws a code and the tax refund is frozen. If thieves faced jail time (ala Oglethorpe’s debtor colony-Georgia) we’d see less irresponsibility.
There are citizens who obey laws and pay debts, and there are those who have i-phones and big screens and want free healthcare. Where will this end?
Fed Up commented:
What the hell is wrong with Romney. The healthcare reform act [Obamacare] is hugely unpopular with likely voters. And what is the VA GOP doing keeping Gingrich and Perry off the primary ballot? The stupid party is once again going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. My guess the pharma lobby has poured sooo much money into politics that both parties are corrupted beyond repair, the FIX is in and its to late to do anything about it.
The Pharma Lobby TROLLS are even commenting on Jim Hoft’s own site. But how are 20million unemployed americans going to be forced to pay? 13 million illegal aliens going to be forced to pay, and next month, when the mandate kicks in and 100,000 insurance workers lose their jobs, who pays?
Sickofobama commented:
So we are supposed to vote for Romneycare to oust Obama?
Then we are stuck with Obamacare.
Wake up people.
With the RINOs in office they’ll love the mandate just like they love staying in power and telling us stupid people to STFU.
Looking forward to Tuesday when Rush and Levin come back and give their opinions on this latest RINO update.
I think I am gonna hurl.
bitterclinger commented:
Does Mitt actually have any differing views from Obama????
Friendly commented:
So for those of you that DON’T believe in unicorns, someone has to pay for the healthcare. Conservatives generally feel that people should pay their own way, not government. Just saying.
Friendly commented:
If you still don’t understand the four key differences between Masscare and Obamacare takeover, you don’t belong on a political blog.
More Liberty commented:
Typical of a status quo Republican. I mean look at the last two GOP nominations.
Bush: Increased the size of Government, NCLB nonsense, increased debt, Nation building
McCain: Open borders goon, supports big government, elitist
Granny commented:
#39 December 28, 2011 at 6:33 pm
bitterclinger commented:
Does Mitt actually have any differing views from Obama????
________
No – absolutely not. Including a huge chunk of his religion.
pill commented:
Yep he’s your man if you want to end this experiment called democracy …
they are all snakes commented:
No he is OBAMA–he is the democrats BOY. Big bull crapper..with a big fake smile. He gave MASS what they wanted–he has no balls. Mass is ALL democrats—who wants to be a slave? If they mandate us to buy insurance they can mandate us to buy ANYTHING-we are OWNED. I dont want Romney thats who they want-nor Ron Paul (hates Isarel) supports HAMAS–I am for Newt–I don’t give a hoot about his marriages–I want someone who KNOWS America–Obama does NOT he is a skinny daddy mack who everything was given to him-a spoiled BRAT. SIC.
tommy mc donnell commented:
if you don’t like mitt stop letting the media pick your candidate for you. if you like a candidates views vote for them, who cares what the media says about them. the media is going to pick the candidate that obama has the best chance to beat.
Multitude commented:
Looks like Mitt woke up the Tea Party. I’ve been on the phone in southwest Iowa and my small town businessmen, bankers and professional friends are pissed off like they haven’t been so far in this primary.
We’ve been undecided, looking at Bachmann, then Perry, then Cain and now not pleased with anyone (Huntsman looks remarkably strong on his issues). I’ve talked with Bachmann’s office about her issuing a pledge to set the divisive social conservative issues aside (which would plague her and Perry and prevent a national election victory). The nation’s such a disaster that we honestly don’t have time to deal with new social issue legislation ala repealing abortion rights or attacking gay marriage or partner rights. Bachmann’s people never got back to me. Guess that Caucus really isn’t important.
Tonight, we’ve reduced the undecided status by one: we will not support Mitt, neither in the Caucus nor in an election against Obama. I’m willing to go further and send the RINOs a Flamin’ McCain as a message: I will vote for Obama if the RINO option is Romney. We all plugged our noses here and for Palin, ignoring the bitter old liberal sharing the ticket with her (“Hobbits! I smell Hobbits!”).
Not this time. Folks, we have an alcoholic Republican party. It is absolutely irresponsible to let Uncle Republican drive drunk, especially since we’ve got our kids and grandkids in the car. The nation sent the drunk RINOs a message in 2008: NO! We all stepped up in 2010 and told them even more loudly, STOP DRINKING.
And now they’re blowing a level four times the legal limit, with frat boy Mitt swaggering toward the car saying it’s just fine if they drink as much as they want and tell us what we can and can’t do. If someone’s going to crash the car, it needs to be a registered progressive so that the less politically aware people won’t blindly embrace a communist when it all falls apart. We need the blood to be on the Democrats hands for their century of progressive fiasco, as they own the majority of the blame.
Don’t let drunk RINOs drive. Mitt’s the RNC Teddy Kennedy. I guess Rush was right… the RNC expects to lose this. With Mitt, I promise we’ll work very hard to ensure that occurs while we throw more RINOs out of the House and Senate.
Sasja commented:
Don’t forget folks. It was Romney’s cohorts who provided much of the blueprint for Bammycare. They were tickled pink to work with the WH on the draft which was patterned after Romneycare. Now how has that been working out for Massachusetts?
Sasja commented:
Multitude, Rush mentioned they (the establishment GOP) figured they will lose the WH but take control of the House and Senate with Romney as the nominee, if I remember correctly.
lizzy84 commented:
Here is a little visual of what a Mitt “Conservative” Romney nomination will do for the Republican Party..
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li1bc96mIs1qzkimfo1_500.jpg
noMitt.
Multitude commented:
sasja/50: Yes, that’s my recollection too, that Romney will be the nominee but probably lose to an “unbeatable Obama”, but having Romney loose in noble form will bring some strange kind of coattails for them, perhaps in 2014?
You know, I learned that Romney was a star football quarterback in high school. He and his team (“The Grand Party Gentlemen”) had a tradition of punting on first down so they couldn’t be blamed for not gaining any yards. They’d play to see how few points they’d allow the other team to score. Anything less than 80 points was considered a stellar victory.
Sasja commented:
Some days I wonder if it’s worth getting up in the morning. And then I think about our country and how it’s worth fighting for, so into the fray I go. If I may use an old cliche’..It’s always darkest before the dawn. I pray to God that we’ll see the sun rising once again.
J JHP commented:
#15
JHP tries it on for size and tells us that Obamacare isn’t about taxing others. Really. You’ve been hitting that bong again.
Toi each according to his needs. Obama care is really about individual choice goers JHP and freedom of the individual. I loved you saying simply pay the tax. I thought this was about individual freedom comrade. Isn’t it about the collective punishment of the reactionaries who will not support the massesw? Isn’t about leveling the system so justice prevails? That each will get the same regardless of what he does to justify such care?
Ah socialism is the opiate of the masses.
Really.
J JHP commented:
#22
JHP/Craig/Descartes/Dumbass:
Comrade glory be to you! Damn the Constitution and full speed ahead. If someone jwalks and is killed who will take care of the orphans goes comrade JHP. Why the People’s Health Care CoOperative of course. We of the politburo don’t need no stinkin Constiitution.
Course comrade we are so brillant. Those who do not believe shall go to the gulags and the ovens. Ever think of that dumbass.
All Hail Obama, one people, one Nation, One dumbass!
donh commented:
Romney exemplifies the problem of how the republican political machine can be bought and bought cheap. When you are a bunch of spoiled country clubbers , the easy thing to do is pick the person who has the most money because money wins and winning is all that matters. Party hacks working inside the political bureuocracy get to keep their job no matter what policy gets piped through their sewer system, and they live better by putting their loyalties up to the highest bidder. ..As long as they do what they are told and run with the party issued talking points all is good. They have no moral conscience for the millions of people suffering consequences of auctioning our country into slavery.
J JHP commented:
#19
JHP sprays the screen with this chestnut:
“Do you object to paying for national parks?”
Answer:
A mugger goes up to JHP and says give me all your money or I’ll maim you. He then gives the proceeds to finance national parks.
The government does the same thing but calls it taxes.
Is the mugger a criminal because he did a good thing with the proceeds? If he is a criminal why is the government not a criminal?
Explain JHP.
Youse peoples es sooooooooo estuipdos.
We know JHP, we know.
David commented:
First of, I’m not a Romney fan… he’s probably dead last on my wish list… although ANYBODY in the GOP field would be better than the Marxist we have now.
I don’t know exactly what Romney said, but if his position is that supporting state’s rights are conservative then he is dead on. I’m a tenther and I believe in the 10th amendment, even when states do things I think are stupid…. like legalizing marijuana in California or Oregon’s stupid law forbidding people to pump their own gas – so homeless people can get paid to do it for them. Crazy stuff, but hey, if they want to do that crap then more power to them.
What business do we have in Tenn to tell Mass what to do? What business does Nebraska have telling California what to do?
What people in a state decide to do is their own business, bar any violation of the US constitution. I see no such violation of Romney care. If someone can point that out, I’d like to see it.
That being said, if Romney decides that what’s good for Mass is good for every other state, then he is definitely not the conservative he claims to be.
Read more about the 10th amendment at Tenth Amendment Center
Multitude commented:
#56/donh: I’ve commented more than enough already on this thread, but your post reminded me of a curious observation earlier this week by a published Marxist friend of mine (one who foolishly believes that communism was never implemented as such, as Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro and others were authoritarian dictators, not true communitarian communists).
He said that we Republicans are idiots because our elites are going about the same thing that the dictators did, but have the sense of humor to bribe us into our own submission, using our own money (and our property as collateral on the debt they’ve taken out to bribe us).
A communist is right about the plight of the Republican party. The conversation came up around another communist’s (Slavoj Zizek) comments to the Occupy Wall Street community of much the same regard. And I’m afraid they’re right… what’s truly pathetic is that so many Republican faithful don’t realize they’re voting for a clever, soft authoritarianism. Of course, as soon as our money runs out, I’m sure the compassionate conservatism will quickly conclude.
rjligier commented:
Let’s see………..we’ve had two election cycles with Mitt Romney. The question is………..does he merely pander to obtain votes or is he the bonafide article….a genuine sociopath?
Friendly commented:
I’m Tea Party. And I’m for the only competent candidate in the race. Mitt has the right skill set and is more conservative than Gingrich, no doubt.
Multitude commented:
Friendly/62: Can you elaborate by what you mean as “the right skill set”? Real tea party people didn’t accept this when our friends drank the Obama Kool Aid (“Just what do you mean by HOPE and CHANGE?”) and as a presumably fellow tea-partier, I’ll extend the same encouragement your way.
Freddy commented:
Romney is in fact a socialist. The cornerstone of all socialists is socialized medicine. Romney will NOT REPEAL Obamacare. Romney wants desperatly to play god as the ruler of people’s lives.
I see no more of a reason to vote for Romney than I do for Obama.
To those that think Romney would appoint better judges, look at his horrible record in Mass. Romney is as likely to appoint activist socialist judges that will not honor the US Constitution as Obama.
Molon Labe commented:
#64
Great post. Romney’s record on judicial appointments is horrible. He has been a willing pawn of the gays and every other fringe group in Massachusetts. Romney is sort of an Obama Lite. The USA doesn’t need this clown.
Sickofobama commented:
#64:
Former governor of New Hampshire John Sununu who has endorsed Romneycare is responsible for giving us David Souter – one of the most liberal justices on the SCOTUS.
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/25/us/bush-s-court-choice-sununu-tells-how-and-why-he-pushed-souter-for-court.html
Romney will give us more of the same.
This interesting piece is why Sununu has been going after Newt. It all ties together.
http://legalinsurrection.com/2011/12/romney-sending-john-sununu-to-attack-newt-is-a-second-unexpected-christmas-present/
GOP KICKS ASS commented:
HE is right you idiots. I am tired of paying for everyone elses healthcare while they have cell phones and tatooes and smoke meth. Heck yes a mandate is a conservative principle of self-reliance and personal responsibility. Otherwise we have free socialized medicine and the rich will again be stuck with the tab. Try to use your brains for once and stop being GOP Koolaid drinkers.
kevin commented:
Willard Mitt Rinomey.
Willard should be running with the demorat party
lizzy84 commented:
So then,Willard…”because you are lukewarm and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth.”
— Revelation 3:16 —
Ladue Pundit commented:
GOP KICKS ASS commented:
“HE is right you idiots. I am tired of paying for everyone elses healthcare…”
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I guess you missed the lady from MA who called Rush and said her husband is a dentist. Romneycare evolved into dental, vision coverage, etc. in stages. The woman said her husband did their dental work and they needed NO DENTAL Coverage. Too bad, they either had to buy insurance or be penalized by the MA tax system.
I see you’ve never had to file a MA state tax return, either. MA’s tax code punishes people like this woman. Filling it out is a burden and maze of “proving” you’re covered for a bunch of different things.
Romneycare and Obamacare are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. PERIOD. People who refuse to have insurance should have NO CARE. Their children should become wards of the state. With citizenship rights come responsibility, and when people are irresponsible they get shut down. Reforming insurance–allowing groups, crossing state lines, etc., would compel many to buy their own coverage. But a mandate will be the beginning of the end.
Rose commented:
The GOP seems hell-bent on forcing the base voters to go for a Third Party.
All I need is a Party Platform that supports the REAL USA Constitution and the Founding Fathers’ original Principles – without any of the modern “Libertarian” Pacifist legalized mind-altering highly addictive drug garbage thrown in.
Otherwise, at this point, I am perfectly happy with a write-in vote.
Rose commented:
#71 December 28, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Ladue Pundit
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What is wrong with the old-fashioned concept of BUY AS YOU GO? Doctors and hospitals and Pharmacies alike seem to still love it!
Rose commented:
#53 December 28, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Sasja
Amen! Psalm 91 Ephesians 6:10-18
Let God Arise and Let Him be God – and let His enemies be scattered and filled with utter confusion!
Beef commented:
What exactly is this story? Did anyone actually watch the video? At least in the clip supplied, Romney never says anything about the individual mandate, let alone that it is ‘conservative.
He said the people of Massachusetts wanted government healtcare, and that’s what they got. They get to pay for it, too. Each state can do what it wants. Massachusetts is freaking crazy.
That sounds like limited federal government to me. He’s running for President, not dictator.
Obamacare is an abomination because it was forced through against the wishes of the American electorate. Nowhere does Romney defend Obamacare. This is a cheap hit job. Honsetly, I though better of this site.
Multitude commented:
Beef/#76: You seem quite legit with a real question. There’s a concept known as “reading on a different level” that I’d suggest is what’s going on here. Consider:
Romney’s “legit” answer in the video: His claim is that the people of Mass asked for it, got it, and still approve it 3 to 1 (this is probably a bad stat to claim, given that most polls going now show that within Mass, it is quite unpopular. But still, he cites a poll preferential to his favored bill). What does this mean? While I think you can simplistically interpret it as Mitt saying “the people wanted it, so screw you, I gave it to them and did their bidding. Bite me. Back off. They got what they demanded, so don’t blame me if it’s a socialist fiasco. Do you realize, I was the Gov of freakin’ Mass?!!”
If he wasn’t so slick and coy, I might buy this line. What’d win it for me is if he simply came out and said: “Look, I was Gov and the people of my state *like* social programs, big government, and demanded gov healthcare. If you believe in democracy, you want people like me representing the people’s will. I did just that. As Pres, I’ll represent that will too.” That’d sell.
But the secondary read is problematic. Romney shows every indication that he passed the Romneycare scheme because it was what those-who-butter-his-bread demanded. That’s really who he represents, not the average Joe in Mass. His grin gives it away: “What the hell you asking this question for when you know the answer? I’m a political prostitute. I’m paid to do whatever tricks my John asks of me. Why do you ask about RomneyCare when you and I both know the Mass elites who pay me to speak what I do told me this is what I’m doing?”
No hit job here. But sometimes, there’s a lot more analysis behind comments that is just too much to dive into. Romney’s a tool. He’s a working girl for the RINO elites. Nothing more, nothing less.
Sickofobama commented:
#77:
I use Rush as my conservative standard bearer.
The day before Romneycare announced he was running Rush warned him: Disown Romneycare.
So what does Romneycare do. Proclaims it as great for the state of MA.
Why does anyone think – especially that RINO twit Ann Coulter – think Romneycare would repeal Obamacare?
He never said he would – at least I didn’t hear him. He said he would hand out waivers to all the states. Not the same.
I know we are in the worst times of our lives with the Muslim Marxist Usurper as POTUS but at least I know what he is going to do. I don’t know what Romneycare is going to do.
And with the RINO Party sucking up to Obama constantly, they really do not need my vote.
LRod commented:
I disagree with Romneycare but on a state level it was Constitutional. That’s what the people wanted.
Chris W. commented:
Paging Ann Coulter.
burt commented:
A politican from Massachsetts. You get elected by convincing people that they are getting something for nothing. You are lying to them, but Americans are really stupid! It works.
Pat commented:
While I generally disagree with Romney, and think him slick and disingenuous, and also think his Romneycare was an abortion at best, I’d like to see the unedited version of this video. It was obviously edited, which will give critics ammunition to say this is little more than a conservative smear.
But, no, it’s not “conservative” to force one to buy insurance.