
The Dalai Lama recently admitted he was a Marxist.
USA Today reported:
Usually what we hear from the Dalai Lama is an insistant yet soothing voice for compassion and peace.
So Tsering Namgyal, a journalist based in Minneapolis, was jolted by the Dalai Lama’s talk to 150 Chinese students this month at University of Minnesota. Writing at Religion Dispatches, he says:
Midway through the conversation, His Holiness, much to their surprise, told them “as far as socio-political beliefs are concerned, I consider myself a Marxist … But not a Leninist,” he clarified.
After all, China is constantly pressing to legitimize its takeover of Tibet in world opinion. Meanwhile, the Buddhist spiritual leader is the global symbol of Tibetan opposition what they consider the obliteration of their independence and religious culture…
…When one student asked it this didn’t contradict the Dalai Lama’s philosophy, he replied:
Marx was not against religion or religious philosophy per se but against religious institutions that were allied, during Marx’s time, with the European ruling class. He also provided an interesting anecdote about his experience with Mao. He said that Mao had felt that the Dalai Lama’s mind was very logical, implying that Buddhist education and training help sharpens the mind. He said he met with Mao several times, and that once, during a meeting in Beijing, the Chinese leader called him in and announced: “Your mind is scientific!” — an assessment that was followed by the famous line, “religion is poison.”
This is what Marx said about religion:
Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.
To say that Marx was not against religion is a bit naive… but, then again, what did you expect from the Dalai Lama?
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Published May 21, 2012 at 12:19 am - 39 Comments
Jack commented:
The Dalai Lama lives higher on the hog than I do. No wonder he’s a Marxist. Some one else cooks his food, washes his clothes, buys his food, pays his rent, etc.
Everything for the Dalai Lama’s needs, from us, who according to the Lama, should pay for it.
Joanne commented:
Heathens, the lot of them. This is what happens when a person’s mind is void of truth and love.
tommy mc donnell commented:
if he really is a marxist he shouldn’t be opposed to tibet being part of the one big communist world. the guy’s a fraud.
Luddite commented:
Actually, at the time, opium did not have the pejorative connotation that it does today. If you were dying of cancer, opium was your best friend.
Being the opiate of the people who were living in squalor was not a bad thing.
donh commented:
Dali is LAM the alien Aleister Crowley communicated with in seances back in 1919… http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1KkASLI9RAk/TdwW5AxeifI/AAAAAAAABM8/7Qd8vxqfXQw/s1600/lam.jpg
Jack commented:
# 3. I agree. How’s that marxism working out for Tibet? Seems to me he would want to get back there and tout the greatness of marxism that has taken over the country. Yes, he is a fraud.
RedBeard commented:
This is no surprise at all. The only surprising thing is how many folks believe that this little demi-god fraud is a friend of freedom.
bg commented:
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not exactly news..
neither is the fact that we’re losing numerous
battles vs O et al NWO transitioning agenda..
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donh commented:
Its his birthright to live in luxury off the labor of peasant surfs…Marxism is a philosophy that inoculates the guilt of these statist parasites.
Conservative Ken commented:
Chinese in Tibet? Not a problem if the Lama doesn’t have to live there.
theBuckWheat commented:
For all the good vibes, peace and love we get from the crowd that follows the Dalai, Marx preached that humanity would become spiritually perfect through socialism. Socialism is the ideology that we each must live at the expense of others. Christians will see how that must violate the Commandments that forbid coveting and theft. Socialists tell us how prosperous we each will be when we can take from society according to our needs. Austrian economists like von Mises and Hayek prove that since government intrusion in the economy destroys the very price information that all participants must have in order to make rational economic decisions, socialist economies cannot function for long. Socialism cannot be “sustainable”, a concept the left loves to scold the rest of us about.
Since socialism violates natural law, people resist having their labor and possessions taken to “spread around” as candidate Obama famously told Joe the Plumber. Socialism always must resort to coercion and compulsion to be effectively imposed on a free people.
According to Yuri Maltsev, who served as an economic adviser to Gorbachev during his perestroika period, peak labor productivity in the USSR under Stalin occurred in 1933 when the KGB as murdering about 10,000 citizens a day. The Soviet Gulag, the vast system of prisons was the largest single “employer” in the nation. By the time it as abolished, fully 10% of the entire population of the USSR had passed through it. Some Gulag camps had over 75% mortality.
Then there are the millions who were starved to death by Stalin in the Ukraine in 1932-1933 in his effort to force them to surrender their lands and labor to his collectivization program. We could also mention a similar mass murder of civilians by Mao in his “Great Leap Forward”, and in Cambodia, when the Marxists, in an attempt to create the perfect socialist man, forced city-dwellers into the countryside to purify them.
For the Dalai Lama to be a Marxist is, to say the least, inconsistent with the tenets we are told that he teaches and is in charge of preserving.
John commented:
This statement is as iditioc as ” As far as highway construction is concerned, I am a real Hitlerist”
american patriot commented:
For a marxist this dude ain’t too bright.
Had he told Obama that he was a fellow steal-from-the-producers marxist in a timely manner, maybe he wouldn’t have been shown the WH back door.
http://ironicsurrealism.com/files/2010/02/obama-dali-lama-out-back-door-feb-18-2010-2.jpg
bg commented:
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oh btw.. just in case no one has noticed, many religions are being
steered toward Marxism, not to mention Governments, hell=O??
[more here, scroll up/\down & click on connecting links]
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TiminPhx commented:
Well, if you get right down to it, a lot of Christian dogma is pretty Marxist.
How we rationalize that part of Christianity with capitalism and hence Democracy is the trick that America had in balance.
Sadly, as we all know, the Marxist element is being used along with everything else to tear down the United States. Ironically, so much of that involves going after Christians, Churches, public prayer and the like.
bg commented:
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re: #11
re: Marx preached that humanity would
become spiritually perfect through socialism.
[How can we understand all this killing by communists? It is the marriage of an absolutist ideology with the absolute power. Communists believed that they knew the truth, absolutely. They believed that they knew through Marxism what would bring about the greatest human welfare and happiness. And they believed that power, the dictatorship of the proletariat, must be used to tear down the old feudal or capitalist order and rebuild society and culture to realize this utopia. Nothing must stand in the way of its achievement. Government--the Communist Party--was thus above any law. All institutions, cultural norms, traditions, and sentiments were expendable. And the people were as though lumber and bricks, to be used in building the new world.]
but Socialists [by any other name] cannot be wrong..
[Communism [by any other name] has been the greatest social engineering experiment we have ever seen. It failed utterly and in doing so it killed over 100,000,000 men, women, and children, not to mention the near 30,000,000 of its subjects that died in its often aggressive wars and the rebellions it provoked. But there is a larger lesson to be learned from this horrendous sacrifice to one ideology. That is that no one can be trusted with power. The more power the center has to impose the beliefs of an ideological or religious elite or impose the whims of a dictator, the more likely human lives are to be sacrificed. This is but one reason, but perhaps the most important one, for fostering liberal democracy.]
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Taxpayer commented:
Let me see if I got this right:
A Marxist government of another country occupies the Dalai Lama’s home country.
The Dalai Lama is in exile because that Marxist government prohibits religion.
The Marxist government has imprisoned/killed thousands for merely speaking of or supporting the Dalai Lama.
And the Dalai Lama thinks Marxism is OK.
Epic DUH, Dalai!!!!!!
Rob De Witt commented:
Well Hello, Dalai…..
As others have abundantly pointed out (great comments and links, btw,) the Dalai Lama has lived a life of astonishing isolation, and his views on politics should be treated with the same respect accorded those of a rock “musician.”
It’s truly disappointing that he didn’t have the foresight to shut the hell up when given the chance.
dwd commented:
Yet Obama still sent him out the back door through the trash heap…
aquaviva commented:
His brother is a capitalist. He owns and operates a Tibetan restaurant (“The Snow Lion”) in Bloomington, IN.
True story.
big L commented:
Well, there is another Marx brother-Groucho,Zeppo,Dummo,Harpo and Dalai.
You notice how some guys have a great schtick–meal ticket, great lodging, people hand you money, fly you every whre –all you gotta do is criticize the chinese
and always live in the West 8000 miles away.
Hey that sounds like Obama execpt sub in Americans for Chinese
Mahdi Al-Dajjal commented:
The Dalai Lama is a guy who has never had a job, was educated at the very best schools and universities entirely on somebody else’s dime, has had everything handed to him his entire life, has never faced any criticism, is viewed by many on the Left as a “holy man”, and has spent his entire life socializing at very upscale parties held by ultra-rich people where he gets handed huge checks which he uses to pay his high-life expenses with (kind-of like the life of Barack Obama now that I think of it). Is there any doubt why he would say something like that and hold such a belief?
wanumba commented:
#15 June 10, 2011 at 9:27 am
TiminPhx commented:
Well, if you get right down to it, a lot of Christian dogma is pretty Marxist
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Tolstoy would disagree. Marxism is the Anti-Christ:
A sample of what it institutionalises:
the sin of coveting
sin of not honoring your parents
the sin of stealing
the sin of lying
sin of murder of innocents
no honoring God
the state as an idol, a false god.
Tolstoy describes that Marxism through the state demands perfection of individuals, but it’s a false standard of perfection as created by imperfect people, imposed on other imperfect people who have no hope of being perfect, so they are inexorably crushed and destroyed.
Marxism is ONE of many seductive worldly products of Satan, who is the prince of this earth, a being with an active intellect and immense subversive power, in brutal rebellion against God and who hates everything God created, especially man.
The Dalai Lama is a mixed up, confused man, his early years marked by terror, fleeing the communists, a wanderer since with a fading purpose. As spiritual leader of the Buddhists, something others chose for him, not his free will, the pet charity of the self-centered rich who have done nothing substantive to restore him to an independent Tibet except put bumperstickers on their cars, he’s spiritually lost.
It’s long time now since he should have heard the small voice that the man who would become known as St. Augustine heard, “Pick up the scriptures and read.”
Redwine commented:
So, does this mean that Barry’s obsequiousness toward China trump the Marxist Dalai Lama, who he took out with the WH trash? Or does Barry agree with his Marxist comrade, but just chucked him out the back door to appease the Chicoms?
Dan F. commented:
So he’s a Marxist but not a Leninist? That sounds like “I smoked but never inhaled.”
ahem commented:
A fraud or afraid? I’m profoundly disappointed in him. Marxism is nihilistic; Buddhism isn’t. It’s completely illogical for him to be on board with this evil. Perhaps the threats of the Communist Chinese have gotten to him.
“a lot of Christian dogma is pretty Marxist.”
In your dreams. No Christian dogma is Marxist; it’s the antithesis of Marxism. For example, Marxism tells us that it is bad to be unequal, and that our lives are fated; Christianity teaches that we are unique and that God has given us free will. Marxism is nihilistic; Christianity believes that we our lives are meaningful and have a purpose.
If you’re referring to the contemporary Catholic Church, however, you have a point. The truth is that Saul Alinsky and the Left targeted the Catholic church 60 years ago to undermine and defeat it; up until then it had been Marxism’s strongest adversary. After 60 years, they have succeeded in eviscerating the church. Half the Catholic church is now mere Marxism with a Catholic window-dressing. Where do you think all those pro-Obama, pro-abortion Catholics come from? Watch Michael Voris’ youtube videos to see how Alinsky did it; many good Catholics have been paying tithes to support abortion, without their knowledge, for decades.
bg commented:
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hah, the Dalai lama was placed in the same trash bin as
Rev Wright, Farrakhan, etc, road kills.. and they couldn’t
be more honored..
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James Flynn commented:
His Holiness now says he’s a Marxist? I’m not surpirized did you know he once said that he loved George Bush and that you can’t fight terrorism with non-violence?
It’s true.
But that’s nothing!
Did you know that Mahatma Ghandi was a big fan of Adolf Hilter and that he praised Hitler in written correspondance with him?
It’s just more proof that all of the New Age Luminaries from the 1960′s are basically full of crap.
Just say NO to drugs kiddies.
eaglewingz08 commented:
This isn’t the first time he made such a statement with respect to communism, but in his other statements the D.L. was more coy about his personal beliefs. Maybe he thinks, naively, that if he talks up communism and against the greatest economic theory ever invented by mankind (capitalism), the Red Chinese will allow him to rule Tibet, just as they allow Hong Kong to function. That is not an excuse for embracing the soul destroying and genocidal communist ideology, though. Maybe if he had been sentenced to a communist gulag, he might have a slightly different view of the beneficence of communism? Instead, he hangs around with leftwing dolts and his “scientific” (sic) mind has been corrupted.
rbosque commented:
If he’s a Marxist why isn’t he in Nepal? Why is he opposed to Chicom rule?
If he truly believes that rubbish he should go back and take his lumps.
bg commented:
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wanumba #23
thank you..
re: #14
“The social experiment in China under Chairman Moa’s leadership
is one of the most important and successful in human history.”
~ David Rockefeller
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bg commented:
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Taxpayer #17
excellent, sort of describes the ‘bass ackwards’ everything since
O’s transparent transitioning of US into the NWO was launched..
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bg commented:
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James Flynn #28
re: Gandhi/Hitler
Hitler, The Mufti Of Jerusalem And Modern Islamo Nazism
bit more here..
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Andreas K. commented:
Not the first time. He also believes that there is good in the core of every religion. He’s been infected with the Gandhi Appeasement Virus for a while now.
He wasn’t always like this. I remember, many years ago, he made a statement about guns. He said that, if one had a gun, and someone was trying to kill that person, it would be very reasonable to shoot back.
I guess he’s starting to get senile.
Joanne commented:
“Heathens, the lot of them. This is what happens when a person’s mind is void of truth and love.”
Truth? What is the truth? Hmm? What some stupid “holy book” claims? A book written by humans to execute power over other humans? Seriously?
The truth is fluid. The truth is subjective.
Buddhism preaches love and abstaining from violence. Buddha and Jesus were very similar with their messages. For all we know Jesus could be reborn Buddha. Oh noes! Blasphemy! Sue me. I don’t respect any religion, since religion doesn’t respect me. We should put all religions on trial to see which actually benefits mankind. Stick to facts only, not believes or silly miracles. Facts. Hard, cold facts. Many religions would be banned after this. Islam would be the first one. But I doubt that Judaism would survive long (the whole “chosen people” thing doesn’t really work.) Christianity, well… with a lot of stomach cramping it might stay. Maybe. If we ignore the rivers of blood that Christianity caused to flow even just in Europe itself.
bg commented:
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ahem #26
via link @ #14: Islam and Marxism From Allah to Alinsky
more here..
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Andreas K. commented:
I should add this:
In WW2 “God with us!” was written on the belt buckles of the German military and military priests were keen on raving about the evil bolsheviks in Russia. The entire high level clergy in Germany AND Austria WILLINGLY surrendered to Hitler. They even signed it. Some low level priests and pastors resisted, but their leaders? They all kissed up to fascism.
Just like they do it today. The Christian leaders all say that islam is good for us since it brings god back into our societies. And the pope nods and smiles. He approves of this while Christians are murdered by mohammedans.
What is the truth?
The truth is too many humans are bastards and should be treated accordingly.
bg commented:
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Andreas K. #34
re: religions on trial
i agree, including the Atheism..
btw, more deaths have occurred via non-religious v religious wars..
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bg commented:
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Andreas K. #36
no matter the cries per se, WW2 was not a “religious” war..
perhaps some Christian clergy did, just not the Catholic Pope..
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Andreas commented:
So why ain’t he going back then to his Marxist pals in China? – Oh yeah that’s right, they would put comrade up against the wall and shoot him. Nice ideology indeed. What a tool that guy is.
big L commented:
I hear his real name is Cheech N. Chong.
bg commented:
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ps re: #38
Pope Condemns Violence in the Name of Religion
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wanumba commented:
#34 June 10, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Andreas K. commented:
Truth? What is the truth? Hmm? What some stupid “holy book” claims? A book written by humans to execute power over other humans? Seriously?
The truth is fluid. The truth is subjective
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No. Truth stands alone.
What is the truth has been the truth since before the beginning and will be the truth after the end.
The farther people are from the truth, the more chaos and conflict they create and receive, the closer they are to the truth, the more peaceful and stable they are.
God is “I AM.” He is the Alpha and the Omega, unchanging. He is good, unchanging, His laws, the Commandments, are good, unchanging. They are are good and right for everyone on the planet, who has ever lived, who lives now, who will live ahead.
Imperfect men change, man’s laws shift and morph, influenced and corrupted by sins of greed, dishonoring, false witness, adultery, murder. They claim to possess truth, but when compared to God’s truth, all that is false withers quickly, exposed.
How else could the universe be built? It had to have been set on a foundation of truth and good in order to function. There is no possible way to build existence on a base that shifts, of evil, out of an evil mind. Eternity can only allow good. Good is good yesterday, today and tomorrow. What is good will be good in ten million years. But what is evil can start smaller than the size of an atom, yet grow through eternity to consume the universe. There is a point when evil must be completely, without a remnant – destroyed – all existence cleaned of it in order to permit life to exist.
Mankind struggles with injustice, hardship, which are products of evil, and yearns for good, pure justice, what is right. Man even in imperfect ways recognizes the need for ultimate truth and good. It is a lie to call good evil or evil good. They do not shift, they are not of the same substance; evil is in perpetual opposition to good, from the beginning to the end, but only good will be permitted to survive.
People desire truth. They may be initially tricked by a lie, but not for long, lies require maintainence and more lies. Truth requires nothing. It IS.
bg commented:
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wanumba #42
i love it when your truth hits the spot..
again, i thank you..
“what the fascist left have been aiming for is to “equate” good with evil..
that’s the only way they can appease their conscience in the face of the
harsh realities they are trying to escape from because it does not fit in
with their ideological Utopian matrix.. if there is no good vs evil, then all
is good even if [the] all is evil..” – bg
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wanumba commented:
Hey bg!
Peace be unto you!
Thanks! And haven’t seen you around for a little bit, so here’s nice chance to say it’s good to “see” you (heh) and am always amazed at how clever you are at finding useful stuff in the big internet ether.
ahem commented:
The truth is fluid. The truth is subjective.
Bull. I can prove that you don’t even believe that horse manure.
You’re telling us that if someone attacked you in the street and started beating you to death with a 2 x 4 that it would be perfectly okay for everyone to stand there and watch you die, or walk by without attempting to help you on the basis that 1) murder is a subjective idea; 2) maybe the guy has a valid point with which we are incapable of arguing; 3) objective morality is out of style.
I assume that, like a good philosopher, you wouldn’t even resist or cry out for help.
Right.
Look in the mirror. You are so full of crap that we can see it in your eyes.
bg commented:
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wanumba #44
thanks & right back at ya!!
[eh, getting harder to snap back after an under the weather spell so to
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speak.. btw, don't believe that myth about something to do with beauty
& sleep..
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tommy mc donnell commented:
andres k you don’t like marxism. but you think truth is subjective. subjective truth is one of the core principles of marxism.
wanumba commented:
#34 June 10, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Andreas K. commented:
Truth? What is the truth
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Jesus answered,”You are right in saying I am a king. In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”
“What is truth?” Pilate asked.
John 18:37-38
Just remember, Pilate spoke directly with Christ and announced by his own interrogation that Jesus was innocent, yet because he was fearful of the mob, he abandoned his mandated official role as a governor of the Roman Empire to provide protection and instead handed Jesus over to the mob to be killed.
Pilate tried to wash his hands of this, he made a big show of it, but that was worthless. He couldn’t escape the truth that he’d caved, he’d failed justice, trying to buy a false peace with the blood of an innocent man. Despite the pressure of the mob, the choice was still his between chosing right and wrong.
Pilate looked God in the eye … and sold him out. He never was able to wash that blood off his hands.
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bg commented:
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wanumba #48
re: Pontius Pilate
hah, one of the many nicknames i’ve labeled Obama with, simply
because he fits the profile to a dotted i & crossed t so to speak..
[Pilate is a type of the worldly man, knowing the right and anxious to do it so far as it can be done without personal sacrifice of any kind, but yielding easily to pressure from those whose interest it is that he should act otherwise. He would gladly have acquitted Christ, and even made serious efforts in that direction, but gave way at once when his own position was threatened.]
[disclaimer: not an all inclusive profile, suffice to say..
we know there's much more, too much more.. *sigh*]
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wanumba commented:
Heh.
Andreas K is Pilate – trying to stake out an aloof position on the fence between good and evil, trying not to admit he has to make a choice. But that is a losing position. There is no neutral, no being above the fray. Sitting on the fence, trying to pretend anyone can remove oneself from the battle is chosing evil. Chosing good immediately makes one an enemy of evil.
Alone, few would chose good, because of the violence of the attacks against good, but that’s just an insecure position of tacitly acknowledging Satan exists without acknowledging God exists, for every evil in the world, there exists a far more powerful good, which has been expressly promised to mankind that good will ultimately prevail, so all efforts on Earth to chose good, for good HAVE ETERNAL VALUE.
God created individuals with unique consciences, self-awareness, which he proclaimed to be GOOD. They will not be lost in a vast, amorpous nothingness. Each one of us who choses good, choses truth, choses the Lord God Almighty, for all good comes from God. God made us unique, He will protect that through the necessity of cleaning out of evil to perfect all who chose good, through the cleaning out of all those who rejected Him, through the cleansing of all evil out of the universe.
Valerie commented:
Dalai Lama & George Bush
http://www.dalailama.com/news/post/679-his-holiness-meets-president-george-w-bush-and-gives-interview-on-democracy
“from the first meeting with President Bush, His Holiness said that he found him “a wonderful person, a good person.” ”
http://www.infinitesmile.org/2009/05/who-does-the-dalai-lama-admire-george-w-bush/
I would say that the ideals of Marxism that I read in “Das Kapital” fit in very well with the Catholic (for an example familiar to me) notion of love and obligation to one’s fellow man. I know now that a critical difference lies in the notion of who decides who shall give and who shall receive.
Marxists would give the decision-making power to the State, which is supposedly wiser than the unwashed masses. That experiment has failed miserably in society after society, in my view because the decision-making process itself becomes corrupt. Large pots of money to be given away are a known attractor for people of poor capability as well as ill will.
Individual charity inevitably comes in smaller chunks than government largess, but it can aggregate beautifully in a healthy economy.
That’s a beauty of our system that our ignorant President fails to appreciate: neither our economy nor our charity needs a five-year plan from the Best and The Brightest. Indeed, our small, individual contributions to the economy work BETTER than their best ideas. His “F*ck the System” fellow travelers have simply refused to learn the economic lessons of the last 5 decades. 1963 was a long time ago.