Eric “Lets Hold KSM Trial in NYC” Holder Says Lawmakers Are Endangering War on Terror

Here we go, again. This guy just doesn’t quit! Even after being forced to move the KSM trial from civilian courts in NYC to military courts at Gitmo.

Attorney General Eric Holder claims that lawmakers in Congress are endangering the war on terror by their efforts to force terrorism suspects into military commissions instead of trying them in civilian courts.
(Wash. Ind.)
Eric Holder believes that “Without civilian law enforcement and Article Three courts, our ability to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat terror plots; to secure actionable intelligence; to enlist international cooperation; and to punish those who have — and who intend to — harm Americans would be seriously damaged”.

The Politico -

“I am determined to defeat our enemies,” Holder said in his address to the American Constitution Society. “But victory and security will not come easily. And they won’t come at all if we adhere to a rigid ideology, adopt a narrow methodology, or abandon our most effective terror-fighting weapon — our Article Three [civilian] court system.”

“Without civilian law enforcement and Article Three courts, our ability to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat terror plots; to secure actionable intelligence; to enlist international cooperation; and to punish those who have — and who intend to — harm Americans would be seriously damaged,” Holder declared to considerable applause from the audience of about 700. “We must speak out. And we must set the record straight.”

Since 2009, Republican lawmakers — with the support or acquiescence of many Democrats–have repeatedly passed legislation limiting the Obama administration’s ability to try accused terrorists in civilian courts. Obama has signed several broad bills containing such measures, even as he expressed disagreement with the terror-trial limits. However, last month, the White House issued its first veto threat ever against legislation seeking to rein in the administration’s options for dealing with detainees.

“Politics has no place — no place — in the impartial and effective administration of justice. Decisions about how, where, and when to prosecute must be made by prosecutors, not politicians. This is true for every case, whether it involves or white collar criminals or brutal terrorists,” Holder said.

Notwithstanding Obama’s past decisions to sign bills that effectively blocked civilian trials for some terror suspects, Holder vowed that “so long as I am privileged to serve as Attorney General, I will defend the exclusive right of the Executive Branch to determine appropriate venues and mechanisms for all criminal trials.”

The terror-trials controversy is bubbling up again as the administration presses a case in federal civilian court against two Iraqi nationals in Kentucky accused of aiding attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq.

“The place for foreign terrorists and terror trials is in the secure detention facility at Guantanamo Bay — not in U.S. communities and civilian courtrooms,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said in a statement Thursday night. “There is wide, bipartisan opposition to giving the rights of U.S. citizens to men who tried to kill our troops on the battlefield.”

#1 June 17, 2011 at 4:04 pm
FurryGuyJeans commented:

Holder wants to war the war by doing it French style, capitulation and surrender.
#2 June 17, 2011 at 4:08 pm
wanumba commented:

Arming our enemies isn’t helping.
#3 June 17, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Valerie commented:

“The terror-trials controversy is bubbling up again as the administration presses a case in federal civilian court against two Iraqi nationals in Kentucky accused of aiding attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq.”

I’d like to know under what law a US federal district court in the state of Kentucky has jurisdiction over incidents that occurred in Iraq.
#4 June 17, 2011 at 4:14 pm
FurryGuyJeans commented:

The more I see of this administration’s attempt to destroy America, the more I think one of the reasons Obama authorized the mission to get Bin Laden was to eliminate the competition. Barry wants history to record it was he that brought down the Evil! American Empire, not a rag-tag bunch of camel-jockeys.
#5 June 17, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Valerie commented:

My sister raised this question when we were talking about Holder, and I don’t know the answer. She said that whenever you see a person in a position that isn’t performing that job, that person must be doing something else. So, what does Eric Holder do that is of value to BO?

He does serve at the pleasure of the President.
#6 June 17, 2011 at 4:54 pm
FurryGuyJeans commented:

“Politics has no place — no place — in the impartial and effective administration of justice. Decisions about how, where, and when to prosecute must be made by prosecutors, not politicians. This is true for every case, whether it involves or white collar criminals or brutal terrorists,” Holder said.

Yet everything Holder does, and how he lets the DOJ do things, is supremely political. And intensely partisan political to boot.
#7 June 17, 2011 at 5:09 pm
SSBN 627(B) commented:

It’s simple, really. We shall be subject to the whims of the World Court, ultimately governed by our peace-loving UN comrades.

Just another step on the path to true enlightenment.
#8 June 17, 2011 at 5:10 pm
SSBN 627(B) commented:

As befits the status of our Dear Leader, Citizen of the World.

Woody Wilson got nothing on this cat…
#9 June 17, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Rock commented:

Holder is a bed wetting raciest political hack who does WTFs bidding. I might remind the sleazeball that when police are allowed to do good police work, some slime in the judicial system will end up letting the perpetrator go free, and we all understand that the American Civil Liberties Union will double their efforts to insure terrorist get off. But has recent history shows when our military takes care of business, the job is done right and we do not need Holder and his merry band liberal pukes.
#10 June 17, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Rock commented:

Oops
But has recent history/ should have been But as recent history.
#11 June 17, 2011 at 5:21 pm
nelle commented:

“Without civilian law enforcement and Article Three courts, our ability to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat terror plots; to secure actionable intelligence; to enlist international cooperation; and to punish those who have — and who intend to — harm Americans would be seriously damaged,” Holder declared
#12 June 17, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Ginger commented:

When did the kenyan fraud become shorter then the black racist Holder?
#13 June 17, 2011 at 5:39 pm
#1AMERICAN commented:

STFU you ignorant constitution hating mooslime appeaser
#14 June 17, 2011 at 5:54 pm
an observer commented:

“I am determined to defeat our enemies,” Holder said, referring to Whites…..

“I am determined to defeat our enemies,” Holder said, referring to Republicans….

“I am determined to defeat our enemies,” Holder said, referring to conservatives….

Take your pick.

Then, “Holder vowed that “so long as I am privileged to serve as Attorney General, I will defend the exclusive right of the Executive Branch to determine appropriate venues and mechanisms for all criminal trials,”especially when defendants are MY PEOPLE!
#15 June 17, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Freddy commented:

This from the guy that has yet to determine WHO in HIS department engineered the shipment of 2500 guns to criminal gangs in Mexico?

I think Holder personally approved that INSANE operation!
#16 June 17, 2011 at 6:33 pm
tommy mc donnell commented:

in two and a half years have they tried anybody? it seems like all they do is talk about it.
#17 June 17, 2011 at 7:02 pm
kansas commented:

How come thie MSM doesn’t bitch and whine about this guy like they did Ashcroft?
#18 June 17, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Fuzzlenutter commented:

“so long as I am privileged to serve as Attorney General…”

Hopefully that disaster will be coming to an end and shortly. Holder belongs in prison getting “islamisized”. What am I talking about? He all ready is!

What a disgusting, vile, and traitorous piece of s*it this maggot truly is…
#19 June 17, 2011 at 7:30 pm
moron commented:

Say Eric, I don’t keep up. Did you read Miranda Rights and appoint an attorney to OBL? Do you read Miranda Rights and appoint attorneys to those on the receiving end of drone attacks? NO? So what are you even talking about here???
#20 June 17, 2011 at 7:44 pm
fightinggranny commented:

I really missed something in my civics class (yes we had civics when I went to school) when terrorists are deemed the same judicial system as Americans. Holder loves to defend these terrorists. He should RESIGN; way overdue.
#21 June 17, 2011 at 8:16 pm
kato commented:

Holder is an even bigger grifter than Blowhard.
#22 June 17, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Granny commented:

#20 June 17, 2011 at 7:44 pm
fightinggranny commented:

I really missed something in my civics class (yes we had civics when I went to school) when terrorists are deemed the same judicial system as Americans. Holder loves to defend these terrorists. He should RESIGN; way overdue.
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RESIGN? In a pig’s eye! He should be IMPEACHED over “Project Gunrunner.”
#23 June 17, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Hedgehog commented:

Valerie #5: Holder is critical to Obama. He is the gatekeeper who is blocking prosecution of criminal activity that is a hallmark of this administration and the front man on opposing civil litigation that challenges the Communist agenda.
#24 June 17, 2011 at 9:44 pm
bigkahuna commented:

STFU Holder you idiot. He wont prosecute racist blacks threatening voters and he sends guns to drug dealers. He needs imprisoned himself. Oh by the way Holder you scumbag did you Give Osama Bin Hidin in caves a trial, Miranda rights, etc or Pakistan notice you were invading their country to kill OBL ???

So he gets to decide which laws he wants to enforce I guess
#25 June 18, 2011 at 2:11 am
nobama2012 commented:

I want to know who Holders enemies are. I have a feeling they are white Americans.
#26 June 18, 2011 at 6:04 am
RedBeard commented:

Holder is a disgrace to the office he holds. In other words, a perfect fit in this administration.
#27 June 18, 2011 at 11:13 am
JPeden commented:

Attorney General Eric Holder claims that lawmakers in Congress are endangering the war on terror by their efforts to force terrorism suspects into military commissions instead of trying them in civilian courts.

Certainly, when counterfactualism next explodes into ~~full-bore gibberish~~ an Affirmative Action backed “truth” spoken by “my people”, then yes, the anti-war lawmakers’ efforts have indeed “endangered” the WOT in this case – so much so that even poor Pres. “Affirmative Action Man” Rambama his own bad-self was forced to kill OBL instead of capturing him, so as to avoid OBL’s, e.g., “counterproductive torture” at Gitmo and the concomitant destruction of “our values” which would have likewise certainly resulted from OBL’s failure to be able to obtain a trial in our civilian courts; and whose killing was therefore certainly not an act beneficial to the WOT, no matter how much Rambama’s supporters otherwise tout the BoooshMan-like effectiveness of his actions along these lines.

There you have it, my too-white friends…Eric Holder’s “thinking”, an iconic product of Social Justice at ‘work’! Not just another “porch monkey” fixture of dem. good ol’ KKK, er, “Progressives” with their, um, inner city ghetto Plantations and their, mmm three times, Uncles?
#28 June 18, 2011 at 11:23 am
JPeden commented:

h/t Major Lance – “Um Six Times”
#29 June 18, 2011 at 11:44 am
Valerie commented:

What you guys are telling me is that Holder is preventing Obama from being embarrassed into a Saturday Night Massacre.

Fair enough.

Hot Air has something on this today, from the New York Times. http://hotair.com/archives/2011/06/17/nyt-obama-overruled-top-pentagon-doj-lawyers-on-libya-war-powers/

BO told his own lawyers NOT to write an opinion on subject matter within their job description, and solicited legal opinions more to his liking from the various executive departments, so that he could select something more in line with a preconceived result.

Remember the argument Donald Rumsfeld started over the scope of the Geneva conventions, and how the administration spent months on it, with opinions everywhere, wrangling, and an eventual decision that 1) the US military was to adhere to them in all cases, regardless of the status of an illegal combatant, and 2) any more aggressive interrogation had to be signed off in writing by the Secretary of Defense? That’s how it’s done.

According to this article BO is acting like someone who is willfully violating US law. This is not good-faith argument over the law, nor is it good-faith pushback by the Executive Branch, both of which are normal. This is calculated violation, with an attempt to avoid the production of a competent opinion in writing.
#30 June 18, 2011 at 12:21 pm
eaglewingz08 commented:

Holder is an idiotic ideological attorney. The Executive Branch is not the “exclusive” determiner of venue in either criminal or civil cases. Ever since the first Judiciary Act in the 1790s, CONGRESS has determined where venue is proper in civil and criminal cases. The fact that Holder doesn’t know this essential fact, or knows it but lies about it, shows that he ranks with John Mitchell as one of the worst Attorney Generals evah in US history.
#31 June 18, 2011 at 12:41 pm
vladdy commented:

There are so many valid reasons to impeach both Holder and Obama that I’m losing count. Every day there’s something new. I’ve been riveted by Gunrunner this week, only to find two new things I wasn’t even aware of today — this Holder conversation and BO shopping for favorable opinions. I think they purposefully do this, not only to get as much done as possible in one term, but to confuse the hell out of people who want to clearly state reasons for impeachment or at the very least no re-election.

This week I found out about Huma (Weiner’s “wife”) being muslim and Hillary’s “friend” and staff member, along with the fact that her mother and brother are muslim brotherhood. Supposedly the Clinton people want to help her into elected office (thus the poor, “pregnant” victimized wife people can like and feel sorry for just like Hillary.)

There is so much infiltration that I wonder about Holder, as well. I know he has muslim ties and assistants who defended terrorists. And his insistence on civilian courts makes me think of how easy it would be to substitue sharia courts in pockets of the U.S., with the intention of slowly overtaking our constitutional system of justices.

There is so much scum in this administration that it’s hard to keep myself from silently cursing those who voted Obama in. How could they have been so stupid? Did it never occur to them that such a “perfect” candidate, according to the MSM, would be hiding things? Nobody’s as God-like as the media made barry out to be.

I’m praying that Gunrunner leads directly to Holder and then to Obama. Obstruction of justice has brought down power before. (Thought: Are the Gunrunner hearings the reason Holder is getting his dumb face in the news again — to change the subject — at this specific time?)
#32 June 18, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Oldpuppymax commented:

“Politics has no place…in the impartial and effective administration of justice.” Of course, RACISM is perfectly OK. GOT to protect MY PEOPLE, after all!!