Huh?… Governor Brewer Vetoes AZ “Birther” Bill & Campus Gun Bill …Update: Brewer Defends Her Vetoes (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:31 PM
Boy did we have this one pegged wrong…
Governor Jan Brewer vetoed the Arizona “birther” bill tonight. She also vetoed a bill that would allow guns on campus(?)
Tucson Sentinel reported:
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoed a bill Monday that would have required presidential candidates to provide their birth certificates to appear on the ballot, and another that would have allowed guns to be carried on school grounds.
Brewer also vetoed a bill that would have directed the governor to set up an alliance with other states to regulate healthcare, in a challenge to the federal government.
HB 2177, the “birther” bill, “creates significant new problems while failing to do anything constructive for Arizona,” Brewer said.
Evidently, asking candidates to follow the Constitution is too much of a hassle for Governor Brewer.
UPDATE: Governor Brewer just admitted on Greta’s show that the Arizona House has enough votes to override the veto. Brewer said the bills were “sloppily written.”
UPDATE: Here’s the video.
Governor Brewer said the “birther” bill was a distraction. She said she is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment but that the gun bill was sloppily written so she vetoed it too.
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Sickofobama commented:
The conservatives we thought we could count on are falling into Obama’s trap.
Sick.
american patriot commented:
What!!!
Mary B. commented:
There must have been something in the bill she didn’t like. Does she have the line-item veto?
Alana commented:
what?
MrGoodWench commented:
Who threatened her ? With what ?
Former AZ commented:
She must have got a call from John McCain who is also ineligble to be POTUS as a Natural Born Citizen under the Constitution.
Can the legislature overturn her veteo and still make it law?
I hope so.
Somewhat Reasonable Voice commented:
Just read that the bill presented to her allowed 1 person (sec. of state?) to make the final decision of a person getting on the ballot. She vetoed it because that person could easily be corrupted and/or politically motivated. Try to imagine a state official with a very liberal mindset making decisions about conservatives getting on the ballot. She also didn’t want the baptismal and circumcision records as part of the bill. I’m sure we will find out more by tomorrow.
Jackalope commented:
Given #7, I will pause here, ana’ — otherwise: Arizonian’s — PURGE !!!
workingclass artist commented:
#7 I hope you’re right….
gman commented:
#7, If that is true then I am cool with it.
a former democrat commented:
I get the veto of guns of campus.
I do not understand the veto of a bill that simply asks if a candidate is constitutional legit.
I am very disappointed in the governor, can the bill be changed to still force candidate to prove their legitness, and can that veto be overriddden?
If she has no credible explanation, I will no longer be donating one cent to the defenseaz legal fund.
No One Is Listening To You commented:
Gov Brewer, you owe those of us that have had your back an explanation…
a former democrat commented:
#7 can the bill be altered to avoid such corruption and then resent to the gov to be signed into law?
workingclass artist commented:
Jindal says he’ll sign the bill in Louisianna….
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/louisiana-governor-bobby-jindal-will.html
Ginger commented:
She was consertive before she wanted to get elected! Now she can act liberal and take the payoff!
Jackalope commented:
Thank you #14, you give me Heart …
workingclass artist commented:
I don’t get it….
a former democrat commented:
sorry, but I am very annoyed at Gov Brewer, very!, I liked her, I listned to her on Greta’s show just now, she didn’t explain anything, if there was something that needs 2 b changed in the bill, etc, and then sent to her again, I accept that, but she said nothing as to why she vetoed except it causes more problems for AZ, how the hell is asking for someone’s naturalization papers or their BC “causing more problems”?
ugh! I am very annoyed at her, and thought she was one tough lady, she gave no concrete explanation of that veto!
noislamocommie commented:
If the bill is poorly written it could indeed land AZ back in court. Also…claimed it gave the SOS too much power.
ar05075 commented:
It seems Brewer was forced to succomb to some powerful threats?
Ginger commented:
Issa is on Greta and he is one big disappointment! He is enother traitor! He is doing nothing!
Uggy Parfait commented:
The forces of hell I bet are unleashed upon Governor Jan Brewer — and the Democratic Party is Satan Central.
workingclass artist commented:
maybe she’s got Holder Syndrome?
a former democrat commented:
I wonder if the RNC is pressuring Brewre to stay away from this entire issue?
MrGoodWench commented:
Governor Brewer said the “birther” bill was a distraction.
+++
A distraction ? Really ?
From what exactly ?
Is it so difficult to walk AND chew gum at the same time now ?
Jack commented:
Well, it looks as if being appointed the head of the “council of governors” came with a price and today she paid it and simultaneously sold out her state and America!!! What an absolute sell out TRAITOR!!!
mcc commented:
I read something on another thread that seemed to indicate a state or states not allowing his name on the ballot might delegitimize the entire presidential election.
Maybe he’d fight his losing the election on those grounds and thereby keep himself in office – while enjoying the chaos – for some time. I’d imagine, though, it’d be decided by the SC pretty fast.
Jackalope commented:
Let’me give Gov. Brewer a hint: Please color your forward Bangs like a skunk and move on off to the Beltway — You Have a Future there ….
Sickofobama commented:
Ginger:
I was counting on Issa to be tough, too.
I just went to the YouCut website and told the GOP:
I have another idea for you to cut:
ALL YOU RINOs THAT ARE AFRAID OF BARACK “INSANE” OBAMA!
ONE THING I’LL SAY ABOUT PELOSI IS THAT SHE HAS MORE BALLS THAN ALL OF YOU REPUBLICANS PUT TOGETHER!
Don’t ask me for anymore money!
Signed,
A Proud Tea Party Patriot
wanumba commented:
While this goes back and forth – if the bill was badly written, then it’ll be obvious under closer scrutiny – the best way to get Obama out of office is to defeat him AND his Democratic Party enablers decisively at the ballot box.
It means fight like hell to put up the strongest, toughest GOP candidate and ignore the incoming attacks meant to divide the focus and will of the PEOPLE, and be alert to counter attempts of fraud.
That is the BEST way: WIN – the way that will be accepted by ALL Americans, even if some don’t like it. To try to yank a sitting officer-holder out of office before he or she has completed the lawful term creates long-term corrosive trouble if the overwhelming majority are not convinced of the need.
THe Democrats attacked Bush, trying to create enough momentum and critical mass to disrupt his lawful term of office – even though they failed, it had a very very very bad corrosive effect on our entire electoral system of governance -planting the insidious idea that if citizens didn’t like the elected offical, they could try to tear him or her out. Not, learning to live, and abide by the will of the majority.
Sickofobama commented:
The story has already made it here:
http://www.commieblaster.com/
The question underneath: Who got to her?
wanumba commented:
The Democrats will not go easily: just to pick ONE issue: how many would be prosecuted for tax evasion with a Republican POTUS, Senate and House?
And THAT’s appearing to be the LEAST of what they’d been doing. The Democrats will have a united front in 2012 – hunkered down in the bunker and throwing grenades – they ALL have too much to lose.
It will be an ugly, nasty, HARD election.
Jackalope commented:
# 31 … ana’ ….
wanumba commented:
It’s pretty busy here:
Meanwhile: AZ House passes today SB 1495
http://www.kold.com/story/14184952/bill-would-allow-brewer-to-call-up-state-army-for-any-reason?redirected=true
Not National Guard, but State Guard under the authority of the governor
Sickofobama commented:
#33:
??
wanumba commented:
From the linked article:
Under state law, the governor can call up a state guard if the National Guard is pressed into service. But SB 1495 would expand those powers to “any other reason the governor considers to be necessary.”
The bill reads:
If the national guard of Arizona or a major portion thereof is called into active federal service, or if the national guard or a major portion thereof is alerted for federal service OR FOR ANY OTHER REASON THE GOVERNOR CONSIDERS TO BE NECESSARY, the governor may establish an armed force for the safety and protection of the lives and property of the citizens of the state which shall be known as the Arizona state guard.
The Arizona state guard would be paid for from funds appropriated for the National Guard.
desertdweller commented:
She was right. They were sloppy bills.
SqueekyFromm commented:
Well, all things happen for a reason. I think the Talking Butts (Heads – LOL!!!) have it backwards and the Birther Question is going to hurt the Democrats more than the Republicans.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Deanna commented:
I agree with the governor. Tpo many times we jump to conclusions about something and we are wrong. This bill gives the Secretary of State of Arizona the say in what is acceptable proof of citizenship. It does not require a birth certificate, it allows the person to use other proofs such as baptismal records, etc. To me that seems like no improvement at all. And would anyone here be happy if the SOS was a far Left Dem and got to make such a decision? The idea is a good one but this bill needs some work.
Joanne commented:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZIHhhgulww
Watch this short video. John McCain had a full Senate investigation into his eligibility as a candidate to prove his constitutional eligibility to run for President, but the Senate refused to do a similar investigation to prove Obama’s constitutional eligibility. WTH!
a former democrat commented:
I’m an independent registered voter, I just want a simple question answered, why spend millions to hide something that Mccain released, Bush released, Clinton released.
I used to think the man was born in HI, but then when I heard the fraud is spending millions blocking the release of the birth certificate, I’m an objective voter, I find this suspicous.
I hope Brewer will tell the AZ legilis. to redo the bill, simplify it, and then sign it.
StrangernFiction commented:
A high-ranking Repubican undercutting patriots? Unexpected.
Joanne commented:
So let’s get this straight – the Republican majorities in both houses want to exercise the state’s right to run elections and require presidential cnadiates to prove their constitutional eligibility, but Brewer says she has a problem designating one person as the gatekeeper……so what does she do – she decides, all on her own, to veto the Bill. Now isn’t she, the one gatekeeper, she says she has a problem with when it comes to deciding a person’s eligibility to run for Office. What a hypocrite! Just another narcissist.
“Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer today undid the work of Republican majorities in both houses of her state legislature by issuing a veto of House Bill 2177, the plan to exercise the state’s right to run elections and require presidential candidates to prove their constitutional eligibility.
“I do not support designating one person as the gatekeeper to the ballot for a candidate, which could lead to arbitrary or politically motivated decisions,” she said. “In addition, I never imagined being presented with a bill that could require candidates for president … to submit their ‘early baptismal or circumcision certificates’ among other records. … This is a bridge too far.”" by Brewer
Joanne commented:
Who made Brewer the gatekeeper!
Joanne commented:
Brewer is a traitor! She finds it a distraction. Well, it isn’t for her to make that decision. Traitor, traitor, traitor.
StrangernFiction commented:
Joanne,
Brewer’s recitation of the Ruling Class GOP’s talking points give her away.
Jerry commented:
I believe there is a shadow government running things. They CAN make the politicians submit.
Tjexcite commented:
The whole issue is just stupid. We are losing the greatest country in the world to a Commie Marxist radical who has the media in his pocket when the best that the right can do is question him on is a piece of paper that is 49 years old. What about the damage he is doing now to the freedom in the 1st and 2nd amendment.
The left is and will continue to use and dismiss any opposition to O as your are just one of those crazy birthers who opinions do not count and then paint every one on the right as crazy. This bill did not help anyones cause to save the country and/or world.
Joanne commented:
“Amendment 2 – Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
So you have the right to keep and bear Arms, but Brewer gets to say where you can keep and bear Arms. A 30 year advocate of the 2nd Amendment, my backside.
Kevin commented:
I didnt think she could be bought
Deanna commented:
Okay here’s the bill which DOES NOT require a birth cerificate. As a matter of fact you can use a sworn statement from a midwife and a baptismal record if you can’r produce a birth certuificate. So is this a good biLL? I think not.
AND ATTACHMENT OF ALL OF THE FOLLOWING, WHICH SHALL BE From the bill…SWORN TO UNDER
22 PENALTY OF PERJURY:
23 1. A CERTIFIED COPY OF THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE’S LONG FORM BIRTH
24 CERTIFICATE THAT INCLUDES AT LEAST THE DATE AND PLACE OF BIRTH, THE NAMES OF
25 THE HOSPITAL AND THE ATTENDING PHYSICIAN, IF APPLICABLE, AND SIGNATURES OF
26 ANY WITNESSES IN ATTENDANCE. IF THE CANDIDATE DOES NOT POSSESS A LONG FORM
27 BIRTH CERTIFICATE AS REQUIRED BY THIS PARAGRAPH, THE CANDIDATE MAY ATTACH TWO
28 OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS THAT SHALL TAKE THE PLACE OF THE LONG FORM
29 BIRTH CERTIFICATE IF THE CANDIDATE SWEARS TO THEIR AUTHENTICITY AND VALIDITY30 AND THE DOCUMENTS CONTAIN ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO
31 DETERMINE IF THE CANDIDATE MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS PRESCRIBED IN ARTICLE II,
32 SECTION 1, CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES:
33 (a) EARLY BAPTISMAL OR CIRCUMCISION CERTIFICATE.
34 (b) HOSPITAL BIRTH RECORD.
35 (c) POSTPARTUM MEDICAL RECORD FOR THE MOTHER OR CHILD SIGNED BY THE
36 DOCTOR OR MIDWIFE OR THE PERSON WHO DELIVERED OR EXAMINED THE CHILD AFTER
37 BIRTH.
38 (d) EARLY CENSUS RECORD.
39 2. A SWORN STATEMENT OR FORM THAT IDENTIFIES THE PRESIDENTIAL
40 CANDIDATE’S PLACES OF RESIDENCE IN THE UNITED STATES FOR FOURTEEN YEARS.
41 C. IN ADDITION TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF SUBSECTION B, THE PRESIDENTIAL
42 CANDIDATE MAY ALSO SUBMIT A NOTARIZED AFFIDAVIT FROM TWO OR MORE PERSONS WHO WITNESSED THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE’S BIRTH. http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/50leg/1r/bills/hb2177s.pdf
Rock commented:
Maybe we should hold up on the hand wringing until all the facts are in. Way to early to be eating our own with what little information we have. I’d rather see a well written law passed than one some liberal court will have no problem throwing out. Brewer has been spot on and leading the charge against WTF, do not help the trolls undermine her here, she deserves better than that. I for one well require a lot more facts before jumping ship.
Joanne commented:
In the U.S., not one State will require a presidential candidate to prove their eligibility – you watch…..Obama won’t stand for it. Anyone who says this Bill is a distraction is a traitor – plain and simple. If a candidate or a standing President being required to prove constitutional eligibility is deemed a distraction, then those who believe this are traitors to the U.S. Constitution.
donh commented:
With all the illegals in our country it is more important than ever that rules be in place to assure eligibility. John McCain must have got to her. Jan is a good person with a heart in the right place, but is really mentally unqualified for the job . She froze speechless during a campaign live debate. Obama has a chance to win AZ and got the RINOS in DC to swoon her. Jan is not sharp enough to see the stealthy conspiracy taking place between Obama and RINOS. When John McCain or Flimsy Graham come calling to influence a decision away from the conservative will , his spirit is possessed by Obama and he is doing Obama’s bidding. You need to intuit the phone call that took place between Obama and RINO Senators before they arrived at your door to twist arms….and you need to play them, fool them…make them think you see it their way . Give them disinformation. Then find a way to screw up what you promised the country clubbers . See that the right thing gets done for the people not the corrupt power brokers.
jondos commented:
Who is this Obama guy anyway?
http://www.officialwire.com/main.php?action=posted_news&rid=9058&catid=942
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/obama_government/news.php?q=1302545123
Randolph Phillips commented:
The RINO wing of the Republican party is not serious about defeating Barack Obama in 2012. If they were, Karl Rove and others would support requiring candidates for President in 2012 to show proof–birth certificates–proving they are natural born US citizens which the US Constitution requires.
Instead, Rove has shown his contempt for those who want the Constitution followed and who question Barack Obama’s eligibility. And he is now alone. Who else quietly asked Brewer to veto the bill?
The RINOs appear ready to give Obama a pass on his birth certificate, and concede his re-election in 2012. HOw else can you explain Rove’s wild attack on Donald Trump and birth certificate bills being holed up in committees in Republican controlled legislatures around the country?
Maybe Karl Rove is past 2012. He may be looking for 2016. The rumor is that wing of the Republican party is planning Jeb Bush’s Presidential bid that year, and if Republicans win the White House in 2012, that would keep Jeb from running in 2016.
Trouble is, the country can’t afford four more years of Obama. And I doubt it would elect Jeb or any other Bush anytime soon.
sandy commented:
So the law that every President must be born in this country is not important enough to stand for. This is how dictators are born. Thanks Gov. Brewer for nothing.
sandy commented:
Randolph Phillips #56 — If we’re not serious about winning in 2012 than forget about 2016. We can just turn out the lights in this country and put the foreclosure sign on the Statue of Liberty its all over.
I think Republicans will win inspite of themselves. This election is going to be a referendum on Obama and no matter how often the Republicans piss in their chips — they ain’t the ones destroying this country.
Jen Jen commented:
Another cowardly white politician? This surprises you?
White American has been getting screwed over for at least 50yrs, but whatever you do, keep supporting the same anti-white, pro-Israel politicians! You’ve lost your nation without a shot being fired!
White America is terminal … so be it. You deserve it.
Jason commented:
Ha ha, yes, his family conspired to put his birth announcement in two local papers just on the chance that he would be president one day (as a black kid named Barack Hussein Obama in 1961). He was always going to be an American citizen because of his mom, so the only reason to put those announcements in the newspapers is on the 1 in a trillion chance he might be the president one day.
Get a grip. Oh and Jen Jen, I think you should go national with your “White America being screwed” thing. It’s a winner!
AuntieMadder commented:
Being on the President’s Board of Governors must be very important (and lucrative?) for Brewer. I think I now have an idea why she went from being a celebrated hero of conservatives, fighting to protect and defend her state, to silent and obscure in the blink of an eye.
AuntieMadder commented:
Jason #61 – Right. Because every libturd like yourself knows that there are absolutely no other advantages to being a citizen of the US, particularly in the 1960s, when only American citizens received entitlements. Idiot.
Lisa G in NZ commented:
#51 Deanna is correct, bills were badly written…. basically a ‘candidate’ would not even have to prove who their parents were to be on the ballot… too many loopholes
I’m okay with Brewer’s decision, this BAD language in the bill re: eligibility
Andreas K. commented:
MrGoodWench, I think the average voter can be glad when he can just walk without being distracted too much.
You all put too much stock into the collective intelligence of people. Put them into a crowd and within a few minutes they turn from being intelligent individuals into sheep following anyone.
And Jen Jen, go back to that nazi hole you crawled out from.
As for the bills, remember that lawyers exist to find loopholes in laws. Given how many lawyers there are, and that we’re not far from disputes in families, between parents and children, being solved by lawyers… I think Brewer’s decision makes sense. Wait… wasn’t there a case already where a child sought “divorce” from its parents? See what I mean?
The problem with laws is that they can more often than not interpreted one way or the other. Trials in courts of law are not about justice, they are about how you can interpret the law.
ian commented:
Allowing guns on a COLLEGE campus is probably one of the most retarded things I have EVER heard of.
ian commented:
Obama has never spent millions of dollars hiding his birth certificate. That is a lie.
Diane Valencen commented:
Mencken said that half of white America would go insame when a black man was sworn in as President. Most of you are living proof of that grand prediction. There aren’t enough of you so-called “Patriots” to ever have any real effect on an election again and in 50 years your brand of race and religion based conservatism will be something for kids to study in college asa frightening but quaint moment in history.
Qu’ul cuda praedex nihil!
YeahRight commented:
What do you expect? The political class will stick together no matter what!
Do you get it now Jim? It is time to attack all career politicians (and political corporate parties) since politics should not be a career. We/America is in this position not because of the democrats, not because of the republicans, but by both political corporate parties and the laziness of voting America.
It is time EVERYONE realizes this or after the 2012 elections it will be more of the same just a different name.
navtechie commented:
They were craptastic bills. It seems the R’s got a bit to big for their britches and tried to cram some garbage in with the good parts.
Fools.
try again and keep it clean
a former democrat commented:
I have changed my mind about why Brewer vetoed this bill, I have been searching online. Looks like that bill was changed a lot when it came out of committee, Brewer’s publically stated reason might be one reason, that the SOS has much too much power to kick someone off the ballot.
Its fine now, but what happens when a dem, corrupt SOS soros bough comes in. That can be changed in the bill and repassed.
BUT and here is an important BUT, the fraud’s people have apparently tentacles everywhere, the bill also was trying to change it so that the very definition of a NBC is changed so that as long as 1 parent is an American citizen, the person is considered a NBC. VERY SNEAKY. Obviously Brewer cannot mention all this publically, she needs get the legislature to strip out everything and make it simple like they did in LA.
Have the legis. repass it, and then sign it. This bill that she vetoed really was more about saving that fraud in the WH than smoking out the possible illegimatacy of the fraud.
I still have some faith in Brewer, the AZ legis. needs to make it a very, pointed bill, pass it and she needs to sign it. This bill she vetoed would have given a free pass to the fraud. So I have changed my mind on this after doing research online. Things are not as they appear it seems, the fraud’s people are trying to shut this down in everyway possible.
Here is the link for how the jerks in fraud’s admn are trying to amend the consitution without really amending the consitution in the AZ “birther” bill.
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“Well hey now. What have we here? The same people who misquoted Bingham, are responsible for sanitizing Obama’s eligibility.
The staff attorney was suddenly on the receiving end of… shall we say, many many difficult questions. To his credit, he tried to defend the position of the compact as not having any direct legal effect on Article 2 Section 1. I was informed that the compact was not intended to help Obama or to change the Constitution as to eligibility. Obviously, that would take an amendment. But the compact is a pseudo amendment in that it includes a bunch of states and it must be approved by Congress.
Should these compact bills pass, the public would not be able to tell the difference. Intense damage would be done to the legal argument that a person not born of citizen parents isn’t eligible to be President.”
”
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/irli-got-some-splainin-to-do/
Militant Conservative commented:
#68 April 19, 2011 at 5:01 am
Diane Valencen commented:
We just hate socialists like you Diane.
2012 is going to be worse than 2010. Count on it, and this time 40% of Dems have left the Dem pa rty. You socialists have over reached.
powder is dry
Sickofobama commented:
#68:
Doesn’t speak very well for you.
You want to turn American into another shiite-hole like other third world countries.
Why? Are you that pissed off? Why do you hate America? How did you turn into a hater of your fellow Americans?
I would suspect most people didn’t get into this conservative/liberal thing until Obama because they had never heard of him. He came out of nowhere. It has nothing to do with race you pinhead.
The book I read to learn about Obama was “The Case Against Barack Obama.”
Maybe you should read it.
Shame on you for rooting for your country’s demise! You want American to be poverty stricken, too! Who will give to the poor when everybody is poor? Twits like you are going down, too, sister. I despise America-haters!
You ancesters would hate you!
Now go hold your anti-white protest sign up you racist!
Tim commented:
Bought off by the left. I wonder what it took?
She obviously played Arizonians for fools just to get elected last November. Hopefully they have learned their lesson.
a former democrat commented:
#74 April 19, 2011 at 6:05 am
Tim commented:
NO, she did not, that is what I thought as well and I was pretty pissed yesterday, look at my post at #73, the fraud’s people got the bill changed out of committee,
Things are not as they appear, I’m willing to cut Brewer a break on this, she needs to get the legis. to repass it simple language, as the legisl. of LA has done, then sign it.
a former democrat commented:
#68 April 19, 2011 at 5:01 am
Diane Valencen commented:
Newflash, there are lots of non-whte people who blog here, heck there are digusted former dems who blog here, you might want to take that race card garbage to the Daily Kooks site.
Andreas K. commented:
Qu’ul cuda praedex nihil?
What the? That’s not Latin, that’s some weird contraction. Cuda praedex nihil? Yes, that works. But Qu’ul? What the heck? That’s definitely not Latin.
Diane Valencen, in 50 years the kids will study how socialism failed and why that happened and they will learn how many millions were butchered by socialists in the name of the “greater good”, which, in exchange, was really not a “greater good” but only good for the socialists themselves, since it allowed them to gain power. And it’s only about power for those kind of people.
What do you think is happening in Europe? Geert Wilders is successful in elections. Now in Finland, there was a massive shift fo the right wing in Sunday’s election.
The time of people like you is coming to an end.
Ritchie The Riveter commented:
Diane #68 …
Methinks it is you who have the problem with “religion”.
Look in the mirror, at how you Progressives blindly worship your own delusions of omniscience … and then look at how that belief has poisoned our recent history.
Perpetuation of poverty across generations … by focusing on the dollars, but not promoting responsible behavior.
The promotion of a Climate Change Cult that is a mockery of the scientific method, that will wind up impoverishing us if it ever gets to set policy.
A complete lack of feck when it comes to defending life and liberty from those who would take them … the real cause of “wars without end”, not oil … because you are stuck in schoolyard definitions of what justifies a forceful response.
Now as for race … do the names Condi Rice, J.C. Watts, Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley, Allen West, Herman Cain … and/or Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas … mean anything to you? They sure do to conservatives … and in a positive, supporting way!
Phuleeze … get over yourself. You are not as “smart” as you think. You have no justification to look down your nose and make the statements you are making.
Come back when you grow up.
Deanna commented:
a former democrat commented:
#74 April 19, 2011 at 6:05 am
Tim commented:
NO, she did not, that is what I thought as well and I was pretty pissed yesterday, look at my post at #73, the fraud’s people got the bill changed out of committee,
Things are not as they appear, I’m willing to cut Brewer a break on this, she needs to get the legis. to repass it simple language, as the legisl. of LA has done, then sign it.
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Good luck with convincing people to actually read this worthless bill. I have posted it on a couple of sites and no one bothers to read it.
All this criticism of Brewer is playing right into the Left’s hands. The President’s fans got the bill changed, knowing Brewer would veto it. They hoped, and unfortunately were right, that too many of us wouldn’t bother to read it and would criticize Brewer. I hate when we get played like this because we are too lazy to check out the facts.
Militant Conservative commented:
Not true Deanna, many of us wait for the truth to come out instead of a knee jerk reaction.
powder is dry.
James F. commented:
WTF?
Nobody has the guts to hold Obama’s feet to the fire and demand proof?
This is the end.
Abandon all hope.
I am so disgusted!
I’m afraid our leaders have all sold us out and abandoned us,
Are they all too corrupt or weak not to commit treason against the American People?
This comes at a time when we need to be erecting as many legal barriers as we can to keep this Usurper from being re-elected and Gov. Brewer of all people throws a bone to the enemy?
It really makes you wonder why they all seem to insist on snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.
Could it be that they don’t want to win?
Rock commented:
@#79 April 19, 2011 at 8:49 am
Deanna commented:
All this criticism of Brewer is playing right into the Left’s hands.
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I said as much in my post @ #52 last night when this first broke. I would also add many of the those earlier posters where names I’m with unfamiliar with, I suspect a new style troll attack at play here.
AuntieMadder commented:
Diane Valencen, screw off. I’d vote for Herman Cain or Allen West for POTUS in a heartbeat…and they’re both way blacker than that nitwit you support. For that matter, I’d vote for a West-Cain or a Cain-West ticket in a heartbeat, too.
PS: Condie Rice rocks!
pj commented:
The bill as written would ALLOW Obama on the ballot!
Brewer has given us a break.
The bill changed the requirement for Natural Born! It allowed for ONE citizen parent instead of two.
Thank her instead of criticizing her! She may be saving us from four more years of HOPE and CHANGE…
archer52 commented:
I don’t have a problem vetoing the birther bill. Stupid issue. He’s in. Short of risking a civil war, this would be a point won on principle only.
As for her suddenly discovering badly written bills, you all know how I felt about the AZ immigration bill. It sucked in design and structure. And as you noticed, is causing a great deal of problems in court. All of this has to be defended by AZ lawyers if the feds challenge it, which they will. This is a state/fed example of “starving the opposing client” method. The feds can sue for decades, AZ can’t defend for decades, so they’ll settle.
Brewer’s people (trust me she’s not skilled enough to grasp what is or what is not a badly written bill) probably told her it was a loosing proposition from the outset. She did what was called for, if that was the reasoning.
Go back and rewrite the bills if they are as badly written as the immigration bill. Take your time, get it right and then sign it.
I’m not impressed with the level of intelligence at either the governor’s or state house level. Remember they are just people with their own quirks and agendas.