Team Obama Bans "Islamic Radicalism" & "Jihad" From National Security Documents
Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 4:49 AM
Yesterday, he removed nukes from the equation – Today he removed “Islamic radicalism” and “jihad.”
The Obama Administration will remove the terms such as “Islamic radicalism” from national security documents in a new effort to win over Islamic countries.
FOX News reported:
President Barack Obama’s advisers plan to remove terms such as “Islamic radicalism” from a document outlining national security strategy and will use the new version to emphasize that the U.S. does not view Muslim nations through the lens of terrorism, counterterrorism officials say.
The change would be a significant shift in the National Security Strategy, a document that previously outlined the Bush Doctrine of preventive war. It currently states, “The struggle against militant Islamic radicalism is the great ideological conflict of the early years of the 21st century.”
The officials described the changes on condition of anonymity because the document is still being written and is unlikely to be released for weeks, and the White House would not discuss it. But rewriting the strategy document is the latest example of Obama putting his stamp on U.S. foreign policy, as with his promises to dismantle nuclear weapons and limit the situations in which they can be used.
The revisions are part of a larger effort about which the White House talks openly, one that seeks to change not just how the U.S. talks to Muslim nations, but also what it talks to them about, from health care and science to business startups and education.
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Published May 24, 2012 at 8:46 pm - 86 Comments
Dipso Facto commented:
This’ll work! And only a genius could’ve thought of it! By simply refusing to say the words “Islamic radicalism” we’ve already won 99 percent of the war!
It’s that last percentage point that’s the killer…
NeoKong commented:
Can we still use the term “murdered Americans”…? Or do we now have to say non-breathing citizens ?
Militant Conservative commented:
Symbolism over substance. Now he’s getting goofy (er).
What a lil wuss. Narcissist.
Helen commented:
Elections have consequences. Unfortunately last election will cause death of those who voted for Obama and who did not.
Glockfixer commented:
Is it symbolism over substance or another example of the second coming of Jimmy Carter? All these “pearls of wisdom” from President Empty Suit! We should be so grateful!
JollyR commented:
OMG What next? OK Sharia Law in the US ?
Ian Christopher commented:
He who will die is he who will kill. There is nothing wrong with trying to make the world a peaceful place. It doesn’t always have to be us against them. We all live at the same address c/o Earth.
A full scale nuclear war is not something to be even considered by a sane society. Although I am aware there are plenty of insane people in the world some of them even have nuclear weapons while others just have a computer and the internet. However, this new treaty doesn’t reduce the number of nukes below the amount needed to reduce the planet to a cinder.
So, I really don’t see what you are afraid of. We can still destroy the Earth in the name of “God and Country” if that is what you really think needs to be done. But if ever there is a nuclear war nobody will win and the next war will be fought with sticks and stones.
J commented:
Submission….there is a reason the Koran demands this and it seems to be the one thing obama is really good at doing.
Male Silverback commented:
“There is nothing wrong with trying to make the world a peaceful place. It doesn’t always have to be us against them. We all live at the same address c/o Earth.”
You do know that there are people in this world that will do you harm even if you are meek. Do me a favor and DO NOT VOTE in the next election.
ar05075 commented:
Do me a favor #8, dont procreate.
Andreas K. commented:
JollyR
April 7th, 2010 | 6:11 am | #7
OMG What next? OK Sharia Law in the US ?
The UK has already more than 80 sharia courts. Right now they only deal with civil disputes, that’s what some people use in defense of those. However, I was under the impression that in the UK only UK law counts. Apparently not. In the name of multi-culturalism the structure and integrity of a nation means nothing.
I’ll be heading for the UK in May (for a few days) and should I get involved in some legal entaglements, I will demand that Austrian law applies to me. It’s only fair.
Obama is copying Europe. He will eventually copy this, too.
“There is nothing wrong with trying to make the world a peaceful place. It doesn’t always have to be us against them. We all live at the same address c/o Earth.”
How does this make the world more peaceful? The terror doesn’t go away by simply calling it “underwear” instead of “terror”.
ProLifer commented:
Pray for peace, and prepare for war.
Auntie Em commented:
So, when will what this baboon does reach treason?
Ian Christopher commented:
Male Silverback #10
How anti American of you telling me not to vote.
ar05075#11
How very enlightened and Pro life of you.
Andreas K. #12
Nor, does “horror” go away by using the terms “Islamic radicalism” and “jihad.” Calling a military action “The War On Terror” is like declaring a “War on Drugs” or a “War on The Bogeyman under your bed.”
Andreas K. commented:
We can still destroy the Earth in the name of “God and Country” if that is what you really think needs to be done. But if ever there is a nuclear war nobody will win and the next war will be fought with sticks and stones.
Actually, we can’t destroy the planet. Not possible. Earth survived asteroids with more “payload” than all nukes together. Life always finds a way.
Also, it is us against them. Face it.
I dare you to go into a mohammedan country of course choice and demand what mohammedans are demanding in our countries.
I dare you.
I’m 100% sure you will either run like hell back to the US within a short amount of time, or you will be beaten up, or worse, killed.
That’s how the world is.
Fascists aren’t dealt with by hugging them and by appeasing them. Fascists are dealt with by introducing them to the bayonet.
Andreas K. commented:
Ian ChristopherNo Gravatar
April 7th, 2010 | 6:40 am | #15
Nor, does “horror” go away by using the terms “Islamic radicalism” and “jihad.” Calling a military action “The War On Terror” is like declaring a “War on Drugs” or a “War on The Bogeyman under your bed.”
Then let’s call the devil by its name: war against islam. After all, mohammedan leaders always tell us that there is no radical islam and no moderate islam, there is only islam. Well, that’s fine. Beat them down like the nazis in WW2.
And “jihad” is their term anyway.
Ian Christopher commented:
Andreas K. #17
Do you really believe this is a Holy war? Christians Against Islam. Are we fighting another crusade in your opinion?
Rock commented:
Yet Americans who disagree with this President are routinely described by his administration as traitors, extremist, terrorist, or in sexually perverse terms. Yea guess we know his priorities.
Ian Christopher commented:
Andreas K. #17
Are you really suggesting that we declare “War on Islam” and do you think a religion that big with followers in every nation on earth can be “Beat … down like the nazis in WW2?”
Andrew commented:
Regarding post #20, Yes we should declare war in the movement of Islam. They won’t let you drink, consume pork, have a dog out on the street, or allow Israel to exist. They have designs on conquering the planet.
sliderblaze commented:
Ian, God you’re stupid. Changing a wording of something, doesnt change the reality. What is dangerous is thinking that these things will make rogue nations and/or radical islamists come to the table and all the sudden.
Real world, people want to take the US, thats me and YOU down and you can wrap that reality in a present with a tight lil bow with a cute lil stuffed animal on top…..it dont change a damn thing and to think it will….. is why i’m sure dude told you not to vote. This regime gets stranger and stranger by the minute and the people who defend it are showing there true stupidity. Obama is acting like if he closes his eyes, puts his fingers in his ears and yells real loud, danger will go away…watta tool.
Tim commented:
If those names don’t exist, then they’re not real right? IF your head is under the covers you can’t see the boogeymen
Ian Christopher commented:
Andrew #21
So, do you think the U.S. needs to conquer the planet first before “The Islamists” do? Are you advocating having a civil war in every country on Earth against any and all Muslims? What should we do with them? Should we Kill them for their religious beliefs or should “we” just round them up place them in “camps” and burn them in ovens?
Ian Christopher commented:
sliderblaze #23
See my previous post (#25? and please answer the same questions?
jorgen commented:
Does not sound like we from Obama’s hand can expect implementation of Operation Wildfire as described in DeMille’s book “Wildfire”: any nuclear terrorist attack on the US results automatically in a large part of the Middle East being wiped out.
sliderblaze commented:
lol, you’re a douche Ian… sorry man, calling like i see it. Got questions for you since we are on the subject of asking.
Do you suggest we ignore it?
Do you think we should just let things like 9/11 go?
Do you think we should just send the FBI in and arrest people?
Didnt we try this through the 70, 80, 90′s?
how’d that work out?
When is enough enough?
Do the math, they say about 5-10% of islam is radical islam…. if there are 1 bil muslims in the world… that means there is 50 to 100 mil radicals out there….. thats plenty of poeple to fight a war with. Apparently you been awol for the last 2 decades at least.
Centra commented:
Ian you are an idiot.
Dave commented:
Amen Slider. You are spot on.
As George Orwell once said, people, like Ian, sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
Orwell also said that “if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face — forever.” America is indeed the world’s last, best hope.
And if people like Ian are not prepared to fight for their remaining freedoms and liberty when the cost to them is relatively little – how can we expect these eunuchs to fight for their liberty when the cost to them might be great?
We all know the answer to that. When the darkness falls, people like Ian will thereupon be referred to as “headless Americans” — I hope that will make him feel better as he awaits his turn.
Rock commented:
Ian do you honestly believe by ignoring the threat it will go away. I have no idea how anyone who has studied history could be so gullible. Islam as a religion wants to be the dominate force on this planet. Read up on this religion before trying to defend something that is not defensible. The teaching of this faction is the slow infestation of all societies until they are in control. Let them become stronger at your own peril.
sliderblaze commented:
Ok, I’ll bite
So, do you think the U.S. needs to conquer the planet first before “The Islamists” do? Dumb question…. U.S. represents freedom, Islam represtents repression. so you are compairing an honerable Idea with a repressive religion. Freedom is univeral, Bush tought that.
Are you advocating having a civil war in every country on Earth against any and all Muslims?
Radical Islam, however, not just radical islam preaches sharia law. Isnt funny how american muslims leave here in peace?
What should we do with them? Should we Kill them for their religious beliefs or should “we” just round them up place them in “camps” and burn them in ovens?
No, that was socialist and communist and leftists who do that sort of thing. And we kill people because they kill people, you are trying to group islam with radical islam.
Starbanker commented:
Well I feel safer already; and some said Obama was a pussy. His war on words proves this man has a backbone. Who needs a fricking Army when all you really need is a bottle of Whiteout.
ebayer commented:
This is about transforming America from within.
He’s telling the Muslim leaders around the world,”Look,you don’t have to convert America into a Muslim nation through acts of violence,it can be done through business startups and education and legislation”
sliderblaze commented:
So to people like Ian, Radical Islam Exists, we have to kill those who are out there killing women and children. The real battle which should be fought is turning our backs…and by our i mean the free world, on those nations who turn a blind eye to those kinda clowns. The get nothing until they clean up their own houses, just when we should be getting tougher, this douche thinks by wordplay and simple rhetoric all will be fine. Take head out of ass, then think….
bandwidow commented:
How low can he bow?
Ian Christopher commented:
sliderblaze #29
I think you are just a jerk …sorry dude, calling like I see it. I will also answer your stupid questions.
1. No
2. No ,we should have gone after those responsible for 9/11 like Israel did those responsible for killing their Olympians in Munich.
Oh,and what did Iraq have to do with 9/11?
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Better than The War On Terror is
6. That’s a good question and my point exactly
Now, I’ve answered your questions can you answer mine # 25
Ian Christopher commented:
Oh, I see you did as best as you can I guess.
sliderblaze commented:
i already did….
Ok, Iraq has everything to do with 9/11 and i’ll explain it to you. Even though Iraq wasnt involved in 9/11, the war happened as a direct result of 9/11….see…sane people…thats not you apprntly. It’s called gathering threats…and i’d refer you back to what all the Repub AND DEMS said over the years since 91… all the same s**t. Um, we are going after those responsible…and munich is a far cry away from trying to kill over 50K people, succeeding in killing 3k and knocking down the two most recognizable buildings in the world. See where you see only 3k people died, some of us know the true reality is that they tried to kill 50K as well as our capital building and the white house… and no, i’m not a jerk, im an a**hole …no dare I say a whole ass to people who are too stupid to realize they are stupid but project that they are smarter than the rest of us. get a clue….. and the war on drugs is a war on something that is tangible and is an inadament object, not an Idea…. we go to war with people who kill women, children in the name of God, who oppress in the name of superiority…nothing could be more noble than that. You apparently dont recognize an enemy when you see it.
Chisum commented:
Your Government And You
http://pajamasmedia.com/eddriscoll/2010/04/07/your-government-and-you/
sliderblaze commented:
Ian, i just killed your whole “logic”
Melvin Winter commented:
Related parody: CIA Encouraged by Latest Edition of Terrorist Style and Usage Manual http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/04/cia-intercepts-latest-edition-of.html
Dave commented:
And if Ian doesn’t care for what George Orwell had to say, perhaps he might consider what Osama Bin Laden once said:
“When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will prefer the strong horse.”
try and wrap your mind around this for just a minute or two, Ian, and ponder what it might hold for the future of the world and, in particular, for your friends and family. Do you think your sister, daughter, wife or girlfriend would look good in a burkha? And would you be OK with her being stoned to death if she chose not to wear one? Gotta be sensitive to other cultures, ya know — even if that means all the females in our family now have to wear a burkha, right?? Oh yes, and good luck trying to send your little girl to school anymore. No need for any females to be educated – that just puts uppity ideas into their heads. Might have to throw some acid in their faces if they choose to do that. Gotta respect the other cultures, don’t ya know??
UncleZeb commented:
Ian to answer your question, yes.
sliderblaze commented:
Lets take Iraq… Something called gathering threats.
Baath party….born from the Nazi party you know, the group of socialist who rounded up people, put them in camps…and ovens as you so eliquently put it. It’s funny you should mention that, cus we are fighting the very people who supported such an indevour, in fact, is a direct decendent of the third reich and the grand mufti in palistine thought i was such a good idea, he wanted the jews to come to what is now isreal so he could kill them in mass numbers.
Saddam, why did he invade Iraq you ask?
oil money for WND’s, that he already had, remember we told him that if he used wnd’s on us as we beat him back in kuwait we would nuke him…
Why did he want wnd’s you ask?
So he could bully the region and complete the second of his life’s goals (the first was to rebuild babylon, which he did) and that is to reuninfy mesopotamia (you can look up what nations that woulda swallowed up) But, noooo, he wasnt a threat….. get an education…a real one
sliderblaze commented:
and thats invade *Kuwait
Ian Christopher commented:
Dave
George Orwell was also a Democratic Socialist. The very thing you accuse Obama of. I find it funny you should quote him just as I do when someone of your ilk quotes Jefferson an advocate of separation between Church and State. You tend to cherry pick your quotations. While this blog joins Iran in ridiculing our President’s nuclear policy the subject of my original post. I don’t really see Obama’s point in getting rid of these terms either to tell you the truth but nor do I think our country is any kind of holy crusade against all Islam either. I can’t help but notice that you all have to insult a man’s integrity,manhood and intelligence if he dare disagree with you politically too. You think school yard taunts make your argument any stronger? They don’t! They only make you appear like the mob carrying torches chasing Frankenstein’s monster in a low budget horror film. It’s in black and white of course because that is how you choose to see the world too.
Chisum commented:
What Makes Barry Run?
Roger thinks Obama’s deranged, and Roger’s the son of a good psychiatrist, so he knows what he’s talking about.
http://pajamasmedia.com/eddriscoll/2010/04/06/what-makes-barry-run/
sliderblaze commented:
And on that Hope and change nonsense you prolly bought into
Change is constant
Hope is crippling cus while some people “hope” someone will come and “change” their situation, some people take it upon themselves to change their own situation…
Greg commented:
Obama announcing what he will do in response to nuclear threats and islam agression is kinda like playing chess and announcing your first two moves before the game begins….the end game is unchanged and your opponent has the chance of getting there faster… Very destabilizing policies.
Formerly known as Skeptic commented:
The ideology which must not be named.
sliderblaze commented:
Ian, and the diffecence between us and Iran, Obama sees us as the enemy…
and wasnt it the dems who were saying what He and Chavez and Nkorea were saying for 8 years? now all the sudden you’re concerned…. oh the faux outrage… And just because jefferson said somethings i or we may not agree with, disregarding the man as a whole is an Huffington tactic… you saw how well that worked out for her… we are smarter than that. I dont happen to agree with everything Reagan said, but i still quote him…
sliderblaze commented:
Well said Greg with one G. lol,
the element of suprise and uncertainty is two of the best weapons in warfare
We play a game online called Age of Empires III and people constantly wanna know what deck I play with… like i’d tell them. There are people who only have one deck made, so i know which one they use and makes victory in our war sooo much easier. It’s day one stuff
Ian Christopher commented:
UncleZeb#45
My question(s) were…
“So, do you think the U.S. needs to conquer the planet first before “The Islamists” do?
Are you advocating having a civil war in every country on Earth against any and all Muslims?
What should we do with them?
Should we Kill them for their religious beliefs or should “we” just round them up place them in “camps” and burn them in ovens?
and your answer was…
“Ian to answer your question, yes.”
At least you will admit that you want to kill all muslims and persecute a religion not just kill terrorists and admit you believe that they are one in the same.
sliderblaze commented:
Ian, your questions are bullsh!t, cus its not jsut the US battling Rad. Islam…. it’s a shame we cant ban stupid…
Ian Christopher commented:
sliderblaze
You say I am someone that “projects that they are smarter than the rest of us.” but it is you who say “you’re stupid” and “we are smarter than that.”Do I? I only offer my opinion like everyone else here while you that spout your opinions as if they are facts.
So, go ahead play your games online. I don’t want to know what deck you play with… because I know it’s only half of a full one.
jerryl commented:
sliderblaze you are spot on and disputed everyone of ians post with truth and facts thank you
Ian Christopher commented:
sliderblaze
Again you are projecting” it’s a shame we cant ban stupid…” but I have to agree with you.
Ian Christopher commented:
jerryl
I never saw a single Fact in anything he said?
Kenny Solomon commented:
This man, his entire administration and those who own him lock stock and Quran are going to get tens of millions of Americans killed and/or worse, enslaved.
They want it to happen.
Kenny Solomon
DC Works For Us
http://www.dcworksforus.com
Dave commented:
Ian – I quoted Osama Bin Laden too – does that make me a fan of radical Islam? No – but I do think he is right in this particular quotation as I believe Orwell made some astute observations himself that you would do well to ponder.
And George Orwell – regardless of what label you choose to put on him – or even what label he chose to put on himself – was unquestionably a fierce anti-Stalinist — his books Animal Farm and Nineteen Eighty-Four were then (and are now) considered allegories that spoke to the inevitable corruption of the socialist ideals of the Russian Revolution by Stalin and his ilk, and to his very prophetic vision of totalitarian government.
More to the point of this discussion, however, Orwell is, of course, best known for his observations on the political implications of the use of language. This is what you, your buddy Obama, Alinsky, and your cronies know and do best – case in point being the subject of this entire thread.
Orwell’s insights into the power of words to shape reality is reflected in his invention of Newspeak, the official language of the nation of Oceania.
Newspeak becomes a variant of the English language in which the vocabulary is strictly limited by governmental order — (see Obama’s executive order). The ultimate goal of the Oceania (read: Obama) government is to make it harder and harder to express ideas that contradict the official line – with the final aim of making it impossible even to conceive such ideas and criminal to express them. Sound familiar?
I have actually lived (not just visited) but lived in Pakistan for a number of years and I have stared radical Islam in the face. And yes, I fear it and what it stands for. And what it promises for me and my family should it establish a foothold here in this country. And although I fear it, I won’t run from it should it come here — but I will fight it with everything I have. Not as a Holy Crusade, as you might slander it, but as a moral crusade and as a fight for the future of my daughter, her daughter, and her daughter’s daughter, etc.
And instead of reflexively supporting anything and everything this Administration says and does, you might want to consider the long-term implications of this current Administration’s view towards radical Islam, it’s disturbing and troubling slouch towards Newspeak, and consider the potential consequences to you and to your family. I have done so – and the long-term view is not a pretty picture. Cheers!
sliderblaze commented:
your project that you are smarter with flawed and illogical questions, like should the us take over the world…. like, the US is the only one fighting this war…maybe stupid isnt the word… itellectually deficient? i mean, i could play the Obama word games but, dont change the fact that i think you are stupid… stupid happens when the facts are presented and wilful ignorance ensues…
And i wasnt talking to you about my online game, it was confiming someone elses point, but just like brains and useful thought…that passed you by… and i wasnt projecting, i was opining
sliderblaze commented:
I never saw a single Fact in anything he said?
oh, you didnt see the Baath party and the third reich… historical fact… next your gonna tell me that obama didnt hang out with marxist, terrorists and communists?
Andreas K. commented:
Well said Dave.
It’s even easier than that. Look at the world.
How many terror attacks have there been by Buddhists in the past, let’s say, 10 years.
How many by Hindus.
How many by Christians.
And how many by mohammedans.
It’s a simple calculation. Simple facts.
The koran is absolute. The koran says “kill the infidels where you find them”. Of course islam also says that killing innocent people is wrong.
But this all hooks up on the definition of “innocent people”.
I am not innocent. Dave is not innocent. Jim, who runs GP, is not innocent. Ian isn’t innocent either.
Why?
We are infidels. We refuse to follow islam, thus it’s perfectly alright to kill us. It’s also alright to lie to us as long as these lies help islam.
Come to Europe and see what’s going on.
The UK has more than 80 sharia courts. Sharia law is a primitive, blood thirsty and archaic set of “rules” (stone women to death, cut off hands, dozens of lashes, etc.) Also in the UK police backs down in front of the mohammedan mob that runs around with signs like “behead those who insult islam”, but the EDL are dangerous nazis and require hundreds of bobbies to make sure they don’t do anything bad.
In the Netherlands Mr Wilders is on trial for pointing at the facts and the truth. The truth is today outlawed in Europe.
In Germany leftists beat up Jews while German police watches. German police stormed an appartment where an Israeli flag was displayed in the window and tore down the flag, much to the amusement of the mohammedan “protestors” outside.
Sweden. Malmö has not even 2,000 Jews, and more than 25,000 mohammedans. What happens? The Jews are fleeing the city, of course.
Norway. Jewish children are attacked by mohammedan “youths” on a regular basis. They’re told that all Jews must be gassed. Norwegian teachers just watch and do nothing.
Denmark. In one of the areas of Copenhagen Jews have to hide their religion these days, because they might get attacked for being Jews. Not by the people of Denmark. But by the “usual suspects”, mohammedans.
Netherlands, again. Amsterdam, the most liberal city in Europe, well, if you’re homosexual, don’t go there, or you will be beaten up by mohammedans because you’re homosexual.
Brussels, Belgium. Crime rate is so high that even the EU parliament gets to feel it (literally, many EU politicians have already complained about how unsafe the city has become.)
Again Brussels. The mayor of the city used riot police to arrest peaceful Christian protestors with brutal force when they held a silent vigil for the victims on 9-11 just two years ago. He had originally banned the event, because it would anger who? The mohammedans.
Shall I go on?
New York
London
Madrid
Bali
Mumbai
How many more have to die because we must be tolerant? Because “islam is peace”? How many more?
But there is resistance forming in Europe. Some people are already calling for our armies to take care of the problems we have in our cities. No joke. A growing number of people is calling for the military to deal with the mohammedans in our cities, because our “justice” systems and our police can’t do anything anymore.
And also. “Islam is peace” is a lie. Peace only applies inside the pan-islamic-terror-sphere and is only for mohammedans. Infidels aren’t part of the “peace.”
And let’s not forget, “islam” actually means “submission.” Islam is intolerant. Why do we have to be tolerant towards something that is 100% intolerant towards everything that’s not part of it?
Oh, so that we can be on the moral high ground?
I piss on the moral high ground. I don’t want this piece of sh*t “religion” (which it is not, it’s a political ideology with a pseudo-religious touch that sinks into every aspect of daily life) on my doorstep.
You want islam?
Sod off to Saudi Arabia.
Opus #6 commented:
And the victims of September 11th were killed by a Man Made Disaster.
Another Obama Daily Outrage.
Valerie commented:
“Ian Christopher”
Read the Hamas Covenant.
Most of the rest of us have already done that. It’s part of the foundation for any intelligent discussion on the subject.
Kathy from Kansas commented:
Jim Hoft, I hope you have really good backup storage of everything you post here. Blogs like this will be invaluable to future historians, since so much is missing in the lamestream media.
Bob commented:
Obama might be a radical muslim
Valerie commented:
The address didn’t take.
Here’s the current address for the Hamas Covenant
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/1609.htm
Left Coast Conservative commented:
I particularly like this quote from Patrick Henry – “it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts.”
I don’t think he was incredibly radical, socialist or anything else. A bit of a slacker in his younger years but he rose to the occasion.
What he said here is true – how many of our people are being transformed into unthinking beasts – including Ian.
Elly commented:
“The revisions are part of a larger effort about which the White House talks openly, one that seeks to change not just how the U.S. talks to Muslim nations, but also what it talks to them about, from health care and science to business startups and education.”
And this document is titled “The National Security Strategy” ??? Sure master deceptionist Obama… because science, and business startups and education are so fundamental to our national security, erm… rather complete implementation of Islamic assimilation.
Oh how I long for the days of having a President that respected our freedom and liberty and that showed each and every day that he took our security here in America seriously. He made mistakes to be sure, but Bush was not willing to downplay, or worse yet, sell out to the growing threat of radical islam.
Jihad is a bloody fact.
Ian Christopher commented:
“We seek the elimination one day of nuclear weapons from the face of the Earth.”
-Ronald Reagan
ang commented:
whats your point ian, blather on blather on
S. Wolf commented:
Bob #69
“Might be’.. heh, that’s as good an assumption as anything considering how little we actually know about him.
jetstream commented:
To Obama and his cabal of lunatics, only patriotic Americans are the enemy.
Ian Christopher commented:
Ang
Obviously, my point is that pledging not to use nuclear weapons against nations without atomic technology.But only if those countries are compliant with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty is a good thing and it should be a nonpartisan issue.
Ian Christopher commented:
To most unpatriotic Americans the only enemy they see are the government itself and they want their President to fail.
bg commented:
++
the US President is an IslaMarxist..
Obama has not only banned the use of words like “terrorism” “war on terror” etc, but speaking out against the evils of the enemy Islam has spawned all over the global community..
Inside Our Government, Armed With Our Secrets
From Influence to Insurrection
Jihad in America
Amnesty International Boss Endorses “Jihad in self-defence”
you do know where that’s more or less leading don’t you.. not only will it (and whatever other legal-ease for Islamists are bound to come yet) lend credence for the 9/11 attacks at the up & coming KSM trial, but it’s a GIANT RED FLAG that attacks will be occurring in the US a lot sooner than expected, as once jihad is “accepted” as being “normal” & “humane”, say good bye to SANITY & HUMANITY… *sigh*
lets just keep watching those distraction butterflies while
the unicorn rides roughshod over us & our government..
don’t believe another Hitler or worse can ever happen?? so far imho, it doesn’t really seem to matter, because it is happening, right under your noses, eyes obviously wide shut…
what we hear Obama saying is “i surrender in peace”, what
our sworn enemy hears Obama saying is “victory is yours”
he is not alone & it’s not going to stop until he & his ilk are stopped..
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Elly commented:
Ian #76, 79 and 80
Are you on the wrong thread? This particular discussion is regarding our CiC’s decision to remove pertinent verbiage/ references to very real threats against the safety, freedom and liberty of our country previous contained within a National Security document.
OT here but yes, an intire world without nuclear weapons would in fact be lovely. I for one would not TRUST our enemies to unarm themselves much less to not push the “checkmate” button once we are.
Chisum commented:
Ian Christopher, the Gateway Pundit Pinata.
Elly commented:
Ian #80
“To most unpatriotic Americans the only enemy they see are the government itself and they want their President to fail.”
Uh no.. the government is not my enemy, and I would hope the president wouldn’t be either. His decisions will bear fruit and time will tell if he’s a deceiver and thusly decides to become my enemy (and all Americans). Being less of an ally to those countries that support democracy and at the same time being more of an ally towards those that threaten our freedoms and safety here makes him what exactly?
Stuart commented:
Obama may call Jihad what ever he pleases, but most of us know it when we see it.
It puts me in mind of an old tale.
A commoner was brought up on charges for calling a lady of the royal court an ass. After having been found guilty the defendant approached the bench.
“Your honor,” said the defendant, “I am sorry I called her ladyship and ass, this I regret, But should I encounter an ass, may I refer to it as my lady”
The Judge said he saw no reason why the commoner could not.
The commoner then turned to leave the courtroom. Turning to the woman in question the commoner in a loud voice said: “AND FAREWELL TO YOU…MY LADY.”
AND GOOD LUCK TO YOU… MR. PRESIDENT
Kevin P commented:
He had to ban those words… since he’s a follower of both.
Chisum commented:
Brace yourself, Ian. It’s another of your “unpatriotic” Americans. I added the sing-along video just for you.
Cue Up the Coke Song – Obama’s New Anti-Terror Policy
Is our president naive and incompetent, or is it something else? Either way, it’s dangerous.
http://www.lonelyconservative.com/2010/04/07/cue-up-the-coke-song-obamas-new-anti-terror-policy/
Dave commented:
Ian #80
“To most unpatriotic Americans the only enemy they see are the government itself and they want their President to fail.”
I’m not sure just who you are referring to Ian, but trust me – I think most people on this forum see clearly just who the real enemies of this country are no matter what our President wants to call them. No rose-colored glasses worn here or simply wishing it weren’t so.
Left Coast Conservative’s quote rings truer and truer the more Ian posts.
And, I’m a bit confused, since I was repeatedly told over the last 9 years or so, that “dissent is patriotic” – or, as Orwell might have said, is some dissent more patriotic than other dissent?
And so we go ever more towards Newspeak, yes?
bg commented:
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Ian Christopher @ 1:58 am #80
yes, i want my IslaMarxist President & the
Socialist Government he’s creating to fail..
if that’s “unpatriotic” in your opinion, that doesn’t make it so..
you’re just confused as to what the term “patriotic” means,
which is understandable being you’re an Obama Democrat..
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D commented:
Well I feel better now. Not!
bg commented:
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Ian Christopher @ 6:45 am #18
re: [Do you really believe this is a Holy war?]
where have you been Ian, you know darn well THE ISLAMISTS HAVE OFFICIALLY MADE IT KNOWN THAT THEY DECLARED A HOLY WAR AGAINST US/WEST SINCE 1996..
we have not reciprocated in kind, stating we are not fighting a war against Islam, we are fighting a war against those who declared war on us, namely ISLAMIC RADICALS aka: JIHAD TERRORISTS..
hey Obama..
has Islam stricken JIHAD from it’s vocabulary?? /sarc/
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bg commented:
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re: bg #81
Obama Quietly Backing Muslim Brotherhood
Congressman Ellison Carries the Islamists’ Water
Terror czar deserves honorary membership in the Muslim Brotherhood
Tariq Ramadan’s American Islamist Victory Tour- 2010
more here..
more everywhere except the MSM where it belongs.. *sigh*
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Bobbi commented:
ALL OF YOU kUMBAYA FOLKS HAVEN’T SEEN, OR DON’T CARE, WHAT sHARIA LAW DOES TO WOMEN. CUTTING OFF NOSES, BEATINGS, BEHEADINGS, MOLESTATION FROM INFANCY, IT’S ALL CONDONED.
Don’t look the other way,because you think it’s politically correct.
bg commented:
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if i said it once, i’ve said it a hundred times..
OBAMA IS LAYING THE FOUNDATION
FOR A FUTURE ISLAMIC CALIPHATE.
we’ve been shepherded into the eye of a storm so to speak.. seems pretty safe in here for now.. i mean, we can complain without literally having to back our truthful words up.. while Obama et al cause destruction all about US..
will there be anything left when we not only wake up, but finally have to take up arms to defend ourselves.. or shall we stay in comfort until heads literally start to roll & oblige..
because whatever is being done, IT’S NOT NEARLY ENOUGH.. we need to get back in their faces.. not let them intimidate US to the point where we’ve stifled ourselves into a corner.. cause let me tell ya, if we’re damned if we do, we’re even more damned if we don’t.. the former is what they want, the latter is what they don’t want..
yes, i’m sure they’ve not only prepared for, but are
hoping they’ll get the chance to declare martial law..
what we need is something along the lines of a Martin Luther King march only much bigger, ie: ‘The Content of America’s Character United March’..
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Elly commented:
Was thinking about this whole angle…
Find yourself threatened by an unnamed group of really dangerous people, who unite under a common unnamed spiritual belief which motivates them in a complete and violent manner? Don’t worry, be happy! And try talking about science, or physics, or your latest business idea.
Golly – I wonder if Israel has tried this?? why, this must be the reason those persistent “unnamed, unidentified” groups of Really Dangerous People just won’t leave them alone! If ONLY Israel would engage them on these topics! /sarc off
bg commented:
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Elly @ 12:26 pm #82
re: [I for one would not TRUST our enemies to unarm themselves
much less to not push the “checkmate” button once we are.]
exactly, and with extremely good cause..
We have a strategy drawn up for the destruction of Anglo-Saxon civilization… we must make use of everything we have at hand to strike at this front by means of our suicide operations or by means of our missiles. There are 29 sensitive sites in the U.S. and in the West. We have already spied on these sites and we know how we are going to attack them.
“On Moral Equivalency and Cold War History”
Ethics & International Affairs, Volume 10 (1996)
[Where does that leave us, though, with the new evidence we have about the victims of Stalin and Mao Zedong? One recent but reliable estimate suggests that Stalin's domestic victims alone - when one totals not only the figures for the purges but also for the collectivization of agriculture and the famine that resulted from it - numbered about twenty million dead. This does not count the additional acknowledged twenty-seven million Soviet citizens who died as a result of World War II. But this is not the worst of it. Estimates of those who died in one single episode - the Chinese famine produced by Mao's ill-conceived Great Leap Forward from 1958 to 1961 - now come to some thirty million, thereby qualifying the Chairman (whose image was once a popular adornment for t-shirts and dormitory wall posters in the West) as perhaps the greatest mass murderer of all time.
[snip]
Why didn’t the United States exploit its advantage to keep the Soviet Union from developing its own bomb? Or to avoid near-defeat in Korea? These are complicated questions, but one of the answers that comes up, when one looks at what American officials said to each other, is the conviction that a democracy could only use such a weapon as a last resort, and in self-defense.
But that in turn raises another interesting question of comparative morality: would an authoritarian system – one based on an ideology that explicitly justified any means necessary to achieve its ends, one that employed terror as a method of government, and one as casual about the loss of human life as were Stalin’s and Mao’s – have shown similar restraint had it got the bomb first?
[snip]
We need to be careful about the methodological metaphors we keep in
our minds. Too much of Cold War history was written as if its major contenders were indeed featureless billiard balls, whose internal composition and character didn’t much matter. In retrospect, apples and oranges might have been the better metaphor: at least it would have allowed for irregularity, asymmetry, and the possibility of internal rot.]
same holds true today more than ever..
not to mention that considering all the diversity claims flailed about
in defense of their shared ideology, causes one to ponder why Islam, Marxism & Leftism are one way streets..
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bg commented:
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Obama Bans Islam, Jihad From National Security Strategy Document
the so called “shift” has been totally one sided..
Muslim Slavery Today
[Muslims are told that Africans "annoy the Prophet" (Ishaq 243), have hearts "grosser than a donkey" (Surah 9:61) and that blacks should be left to die if injured, and should be denied intercession and entrance to heaven (Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 52, Number 137).
Muslims try and torture non-Muslims into becoming Muslims. Not every Muslim is evil and some i've heard have even come to the aid of non-Muslims who were being beaten in the streets but unfortunately they are the minority. Muslims continue to commit these types of atrocities against non-Muslims everyday in other countries such as Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan etc. Men, women and children have been raped & tortured by Muslims because in their countries they get away with it. Saudi Arabia regularly beheads people caught practicing other religions. The genocide has switched from southern Sudan to Darfur with oil revenues being used by the Islamic government to perpetuate genocide.]
Islam, A Problem In Australia
Radical Islam In Europe
Islam A Silenced Problem In America
Obama is another self absorbed dictator, who’s ego is being
fed EXTREMELY well, while the rest of US can go to hell..
“I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.”
‘We are God’s partners in matters of life and death’
‘my individual salvation is not gonna come about
without a collective salvation for the country’ …
Father Obama, Mother Gaia
“WE ARE NO LONGER A CHRISTIAN NATION”
["Tonight's iftar is a ritual that is also being carried out this Ramadan at kitchen tables and mosques in all 50 states. Islam, as we know, is part of America. And like the broader American citizenry, the American Muslim community is one of extraordinary dynamism and diversity -- with families that stretch back generations and more recent immigrants; with Muslims of countless races and ethnicities, and with roots in every corner of the world.
"Indeed, the contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country."]
i could go on & on about Obama, the links between radical Islam, Marxism, etc.. and much more, but won’t.. at any rate, try and save your grandkids futures, do some serious research before Obama BANS that too, gah!!
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bg commented:
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Tariq Ramadan is set to begin his “American Islamist Victory Tour” of primarily Islamist and Islamist-apologist venues over the next month.
As he begins his tour in NYC tomorrow at Cooper Union, AIFD urges all to demand that his message constantly be balanced by American Muslims who do not tow the Islamist line (anti-Islamists) and are courageous enough to take on political Islam and the Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan). Mr. Ramadan has dangerously avoided any clarity on the ideology of political Islam and the Brotherhood while revealingly serving as a leading facilitator of the very fiber of organized and ideological political Islam in the West. PRESS RELEASE PERMALINK
AIFD urges critical engagement of Tariq Ramadan during his upcoming “American Islamist Victory Tour” – 2010
His dismissal, avoidance, and tacit propagation of political Islam and the Muslim Brotherhood demands exposure and critical engagement by American Muslims.
PHOENIX (April 5, 2010) -The American Islamic Forum for Democracy (AIFD) is warning Americans Muslims, to be on guard as Tariq Ramadan makes his first visit into the United States since the Obama Administration lifted a six-year ban on his entry. Ramadan will be speaking on April 8, 2010 at the Cooper Union in New York City as the guest of the ACLU, the American Association of University professors, the PEN American Center and Slate magazine. He will continue on to speeches in Chicago, Detroit, Washington, D.C. and Garden Grove, CA. that will benefit Islamist organizations within the United States.
AIFD considers Ramadan a threat to American Muslims because he puts a passive face on the ideology of political Islam and the concepts of Islamic supremacy that for many Muslims remains a dangerous slope to radicalization. Ramadan is considered a rock star to many European intellectual elites, but if he were engaged in genuine debate with dissenting Muslims people would see that the emperor has no clothes.
“Tariq Ramadan’s entry into America needs to be met with open dialogue from the Muslim Community, non-Muslim organizations and the media on the real threat of Political Islam,” said Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser, President and Founder of AIFD. “It is incumbent on all Americans, especially American Muslims, to engage Ramadan at any opportunity to demonstrate that the US Constitution trumps the construct of the Islamic State.”
Ramadan’s lineage is well known. He is the grandson of Muslim Brotherhood Founder Hassan al Banna and the son of Said Ramadan who spread the Brotherhood to Germany where it eventually spread throughout Europe. While the words Muslim Brotherhood rarely leave his lips, Tariq Ramadan’s ideology is indistinguishable from the Brotherhood which is counter to the principles of liberty and freedom found here in America.
“To give Ramadan an unfettered platform for his dissimulation while also perpetuating his message of victimization is to give him and his clerical colleagues a status which will forever retard real reform within Muslim thought,” said Jasser. “Real reform comes from those Muslim leaders with the personal strength of character to call for an end to the Islamic state and the separation of mosque and state. Ramadan has not. Rather he is a soft tongued global instrument of political Islam against the bulwark of real freedom and liberty as we know it in the United States.”
***We also bring your attention to a briefer AIFD prepared and posted on Mr. Ramadan including venue details concerning his April visits at this link.
About the American Islamic Foundation for Democracy
The American Islamic Forum for Democracy (AIFD) is a nonprofit 501(c)(3) charitable organization. AIFD’s mission advocates for the preservation of the founding principles of the United States Constitution, liberty and freedom, through the separation of mosque and state. For more information on AIFD, please visit our website at http://www.aifdemocracy.org/.
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Jo commented:
Narcissist Obama is a radical and he likes Islam and hate Christians. So go figure. There is no hidden secrets here. We have a traitor and anti-radical, and possible terrorist for a president.
A terrorist is someone that works to undermind the security of our nation — and that is #1 Obama’s Job, as he stated openly.
bg commented:
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again, just a sample:
Obama Mentor; Fundraiser; Sponsor
Obama Had Close Ties to Top Saudi Adviser at Early Age
Who is Khalid al-Mansour?
Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour
[Before becoming a Muslim, al-Mansour in the 1960s was named Don Warden. He was deeply involved in San Francisco Bay Area racial politics as founder of a group called the African American Association. A close personal adviser to Huey Newton and Bobby Seale, al-Mansour helped the pair establish the Black Panther Party but later broke with them when they entered coalitions with white radical groups.]
Colonel Qaddafi, the Libyan leader, quoted by the state press agency, said: “Our confrontation with America used to be like confronting a fortress from outside. Today we have found an opening to enter the fortress and to confront it from within.”
Along came a black citizen of Kenyan African origins, a Muslim, who
had studied in an Islamic school in Indonesia. His name is Obama.
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bg commented:
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bg #102
re: [Black Panther Party but later broke with them
when they entered coalitions with white radical groups.]
yes, the Weather Underground
[The Weather Underground, in concert with the Black Panthers on October
20, 1981, murdered Brinks guard Peter Paige and made a widow of his wife, Josephine, and orphaned his children, Susan, 19, Michael, 16, and Peter, 9.
The Weather Underground, in concert with the Black Panthers on October 20, 1981, murdered black police officer Waverly Brown, orphaning his daughters
and a son, and leaving his mother, whom he helped in her garden, to live the remainder of her life without him.
The Weather Underground, in concert with the Black Panthers on October 20, 1981, murdered Edward O'Grady, widowing his wife and leaving her with three children young children, a son Edward, Jr., age six, and two daughters Patricia, age two and Kimberly, age 6 months.]
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Ian Christopher commented:
Elly #82
No, I’m not on the wrong thread read first sentance of this post this was Jim’s first mention of the new Nuke policy. So, it is included here.
Ian Christopher commented:
Dave,
In George Orwell’s novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, the Two Minutes’ Hate is a daily period in which Party members must watch a film depicting The Party’s enemies and express their hatred for them.
Reminds me of Fox news and this blog.
Ian Christopher commented:
Dave,
This ones for you….
George Orwell wrote,”Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.”
Again, reminds me of you, Palin, The Tea Party, Fox news, and this blog.
bg commented:
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Ian Christopher @ 3:14 am #104
only as far as you supposedly know.. you see those of us who frequent GP to learn vs vent our hatred, have seen a number of NUKE related post..
Ian Christopher @ 3:53 am #105
so, you watch Fox news & troll GP to vent your
hatred of US, got it.. the loyal Obot you are..
Ian Christopher @ 4:46 am #106
well i’m stealing it & tossing it right back at you & your political Messiah’s ‘just words’ ..
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