BREAKING: MASS SHOOTING AT UMPQUA COLLEGE in Oregon – 13 Dead – Gunfree Zone

BREAKING: MASS SHOOTING AT UMPQUA COLLEGE in Oregon – 10 Dead – Gunfree Zone
umpqua college

Up to 15 dead–
Several more injured…

WCNC reported:

A shooter who opened fire at at Umpqua Community College Thursday in southern Oregon injured as many as 20 people before he was downed, a Douglas County official said.

KATU-TV reports that Oregon State Police say there were multiple fatalities, but that could not be immediately confirmed.

County commissioner Chris Boice told KGW-TV that 15 to 20 people were injured in the melee, including one woman shot in the chest.

Shooter is down…

Umpqua College is a gunfree zone.
No guns allowed…
ucc gun free
Hat Tip Dana Loesch

Police at Umpqua College are checking students.
umpqua police
The scene of an active shooting at Umpqua Community College, Oct. 1, 2015 (COURTESY NRTODAY.COM)

11:39 AM: Students are still locked in the cafeteria. They are unsure to come out.

UPDATE: The suspect has “been detained” and is no longer a threat.

More… Roseburg is a city of about 22,000 people located about 70 miles south of Eugene, Oregon, and some 180 miles south of Portland. The college is located on the North Umpqua River and serves Roseburg and the greater Douglas County area.

UPDATE: 15 Dead according to Douglas County Board Assistant.

UPDATE: Umpqua College Shooter POSTED WARNING on 4CHan Hours Before Attack!!

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  • WBee1 Proud Navy Wife

    My prayers to the families of the dead and injured students.

  • Gregor

    WTF is wrong with people?

  • Joe W

    Another gun free zone disaster. No one able to protect themselves from a bad person with a gun. So sad. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

  • time

    Wait for the media to bumble through multiple mis-reportings of the story, and liberals to blame the gun, and the actual story will finally coalesce and the shooter’s issues will become apparent.

  • wyntre

    I have no confidence in MSM or our government..

    What better way to get the POS’s failures on the world stage off the front page then another mass shooting.

  • Mike in Illinois

    Another gun free zone (infringement imposed based on government claiming permission power over individual inalienable enumerated rights), another bunch of people dead and more wounded.

    Another day of gun grabbing loyalists blaming the guns, their magazine sizes and a lack of “gun control” all while it is their “gun control” that led to those deaths and injuries on a mass scale because people aren’t “allowed” to put a stop to it when it happens, while it is happening, because they are themselves armed.

    Another foolish display about how evil black rifles are the cause, but yet those who arrive to put an eventual stop to it are….wait for it…..armed with those evil black rifles!

    Another round of blaming everything from rough childhoods to inanimate objects, while talking headsignoring the gun free zone prohibition backwardness, the disarmed victims, the fish in a barrel, complete with the blood dance done by those who want to use this barbaric crime as a means of augmenting government power and scope of it.

    Enough is enough. Leftist, liberal, progressive, gun grabbing Democrat fools, YOU OWN THIS because our Founders and Framers SOLVED this problem right at the start of this nations history – by telling you usurpers plainly that the only way to stop a bad a guy with a gun is if there is a good guy with a gun there to defend themselves,their kin and their property.

    SO lets stop the madness. Let’s admit the truth. Here we have yet another EPIC FAIL of “gun control”. Take note, your “expanded” and “strengthened background checks” were, are and will forever be the root cause of the EPIC FAIL. None of your precious “laws on the books” or “needed laws on the books” will EVER stop these heinous acts. The only thing that can is a Citizenry exercising their RIGHTS to both keep and bear arms – absent your endless INFRINGEMENTS!!

  • Waiting for the media to breathlessly insinuate a Right Winger

  • PrivilegedCracker

    This is to convenient . Oturds getting his A$$ had to him on the world stage and we just happen to have a school shooting? I smell a rat .

  • Hy Feiber

    Media: “Please please, make it a white skin head, Please!!!”

  • Ronald Raven

    When are we going to address mental health? Seriously, mental health problems are driving everything.

  • Just_a_Guy_Named_Joe

    Well, this happened in Oregon – a liberal hotbed. And, you know, those leftist, radical, gun fearing, conservative hating, peace loving, weed smoking liberals wouldn’t hurt a flea.

    So….this couldn’t have really happened at all…could it…?

  • Well it has been 30 minutes and we haven’t heard of the shooters voting record so we are 100% certain a registered Democrat is at the center of this. You know some things in life just never change.

  • Ragg muff

    Another Timely Shooting for the Virtual President.. NO WHERE TO BE FOUND for 2 days now.. Just like that no more Russian News.

  • Ray Prescott

    Ok so the Gun Free Zone sign needs to be bigger. Lets get on that.

  • Just_a_Guy_Named_Joe

    They’re coming to take guns away oh no
    They’re coming to take funs away you bet you bet you bet
    To protect us all and keep us safe and secure all the time,
    And you’ll be happy to see those jack boot cops in their uniforms
    And they’re coming to take guns away oh yes

  • Ragg muff

    Still no Mugshot?? If he was White male his picture would be on every channel.

  • dsd1

    with the recent pushes by gun rights supporters to have the ability to defend yourself on college campus’ this is right out of the left wing rahm emmanual “never let a crisis go to waste” playbook to try to cause uproar and stir support for more gun control (ironically) in an attempt at pushing back the growing gun rights movements

    left wing radical playbook – cause an emotional traumatic event which you can then use to grab even more control over the people with while they are distraught and emotional and crying for government to “save them”

  • dave0987

    “Police at Umpqua College are checking students.”

    –For what? Didn’t they get the shooter? Or is it to penalize anyone exercising their second amendment rights that chose to carry for self defense, should just this type of thing happen?

  • Ragg muff

    Exactly!

  • D H

    Thank goodness this was a gun free campus.

  • patroy75

    He’s white and on some form of medication, dimes to donuts.

  • Just_a_Guy_Named_Joe

    “Move along, now, move along…nothing to see here….we don’t even ALLOW guns around here….no story here….just move along….play with your iToys and…here…smoke some of this. You’ll feel alllll better….”

  • dp

    I wonder how many will now become a civil disobedient citizens in gun free zones.

  • Ragg muff

    A caller to Shlep Smith said there was no noise, that it sounded like a “Silenced” Weapon.

  • swingblade

    Maybe you should have to pass a “reading test” before you can carry gun? That should cut Chicago murders by 90%!

  • Peter Quinn

    I am going to state unequivocally that the “shooter”
    was taking, or had just stooped taking, some form
    of psychotropic prescription medication – just like EVERY
    other “mass shooter”…

    Selah

  • Mytoosense

    There was no shooting, it’s a gun free zone, no guns allowed.

  • Hy Feiber

    Yep, sure works every time. That sign always scares off mass murderers.

    Liberals are Incurable.

  • They Did What

    There’s no such thing as a gun free zone. Liberals will never understand that.

  • Zuul

    Tough crap! 15 less liberals dead. F-Them all!

  • We will continue to hang around with bated breath to see what this Democrat shooter looks like.

  • Just_a_Guy_Named_Joe

    Let no “emergency” go to waste. No better time to infringe on someone’s rights than when they’re scared and feeling…sniff…sniff…vulnerable.

  • Charles Dickerson

    Shocking, just shocking another 2A free zo…er…I mean gun free zone is a mass shooting target. Do you even need a 3 digit IQ to know that’s where you go for maximum time available for blood letting and misery?

  • abcnewscensorscansuckit

    Yet another libtard got ahold of a gun and mass murders. We should immediately declare liberalism (Regressivism) a mental disorder, and keep them from getting guns. Until that happens, we’re going to KEEP hearing stories about Regressives mass murdering on “gun-free” college campuses, elementary schools, or movie theaters.

  • dave0987

    Yep. At BEST (though it will never happen) you could have metal detectors installed at every entrance/exit to every school/college. Problem is that’s STILL not a 100% guarantee, and even that can be circumvented if a friend let’s his buddy in through the back door or something similar.

  • Pouncekitty

    Prayers to the victims and their families. Now we will hear more whining and moaning about “gun control.” This was a “gun-free zone!” Guns don’t kill people by themselves. You can ban ALL guns and some nuts will get them and kill. Better to educate mushy-headed youth about LAW & ORDER.

  • doug

    Fuvk you!

  • cadgbd

    Steely Dan – Don’t Take Me Alive
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4oh4hfV7lM

  • Nunya Bidness

    I can’t wait for the inevitable cries for more gun control laws, none of which would have prevented this from happening. “Gun free zones” mean open season for bad guys.

  • Zuul

    I could care less about little commie Oregon liberals dieing..

  • disqus_c197zi57ib

    We know what will happen next. The anti gunners will crawl out of the woodwork and demand more gun control. Obama will make another speech and blame this on the repubs again. Gun control will font and center again across the media all because of one sick person.

  • Ragg muff

    Wait for these Mental Disorder Commies to start their Spin.. The Communist Ghoul was Fully shown Naked by Russia and here we are with a Shoot up job.

  • Just_a_Guy_Named_Joe

    NEWSFLASH: “This just in, 10 – 15 students dead on a college campus in Oregon. Police are advising all citizens to be on the lookout for suspicious Confederate “Rebel” flags.”

  • Pouncekitty

    Liberals released all the mental patients into the streets. Any more questions?

  • PoodleTopPaul

    ?? Mmmkay.

  • kurosakikun777

    A school shooting?!! Quick, you liberals — get behind the “GUN FREE ZONE” sign, it will protect you!! Meanwhile, all the liberals in government have 24/7 armed protection they deny the peasants. What makes their lives more important than ours?

  • bicentennialguy

    One of my favorite movie lines:

    “We forbad them weapons; they soon began to fashion their own.”

    Long story short, where there’s a will, there’s a way. They can ban anything and everything they want. It’s not going to stop someone who is determined to get what they want.

  • abcnewscensorscansuckit

    Regressivism is what’s wrong with leftists who mass murder. It’s a mental disorder, and anyone who’s caught voting ‘Rat should be immediately beheaded or institutionalized. Could you IMAGINE how quickly this country would rebound if that were to happen?!?

  • Ezekiel Stone

    I wonder if the police adhered to the policy.

  • Ragg muff

    Never show Violence of Islam throwing Gays off the Roof, Violence to European Woman in the Invasion of Europe, but a Shooting… Every Channel.. Communist Islamic Brainwashing Media!

  • Peter Quinn

    What a well thought out and reasoned rebuttal…good job.

  • Penn

    So yet another gun went off and killed innocent people. Either get bigger Gun Free Zone signs, or get big magnets to capture the guns before they fire.

  • dave0987

    And more of them! But don’t forget to use RECYCLED paper.

  • Jeff

    I wish they would just ban guns from campi so these shootings would not happen…

  • freeinaz

    Listen to the police radio traffic on the shooting

    https://clyp.it/kq454nvx

  • Lex loathar

    Next, it will be ring each campus with TSA goons. Another make work project.

  • Flax Seed

    Remember the last mass shooting at a gun range? Neither do I.

  • Mickus

    Wait…I don’t understand….you say the campus was gun free…….this doesnt make sense…..it was supposed to be gun free

  • CCowardly LLion

    There’s already hoax videos about this on youtube.

  • DanInOsprey

    Can’t be true. Gun-free zone. Citizens licensed to carry can’t. These news media folks have pretty wild imaginations!

  • A=A

    Written like a true brainless leftist. You should have just written Baaaaaaaaaah.

  • libtarded

    Lemmie guess– liberal?

  • I just got done scanning internet and there is no news of the shooter’s grandparents donating to Jerald Ford so it is safe to put this down on the Democrat mass shooter docket.

  • Penn

    I see from the picture above by the police searching that the suspect was an overweight female in lavender or purple.

  • emag

    Well said.

  • dave0987

    Almost like we’ve sen this play out before…

  • Ragg muff

    If the shooter is “dark” or “Mediterranean” This is off the News by tomorrow.

  • SHOUTING EL DUDERINO

    BAN OPEN ENROLLMENT COMMUNITY COLLEGES!

  • Rob2013

    Hhmm… Maybe they should have put up bigger “Gun Free Zone” signs.

  • Caitlyn Bodine

    next thing, they’ll make shooting people illegal

  • abcnewscensorscansuckit

    Ronald, it was you libs who DEMANDED that we stop institutionalizing the crazies back in the day, so what would you have us do with them? And what exactly do you mean by “address mental health?”

  • paratrooper

    NO F……you doug. Mike is totally right. We need less people like you. Libs should be targets.

  • funky321

    Is it coincidence that every time there is something bad flaring up somewhere in the world making Barry look bad that there is a mass shooting in this country?

  • David Phillips

    They sure love targeting the gun free zones, don’t they…

  • The Mikado

    And soy ink.

  • DirtyHarry.44

    So…what’s your solution? Oh, I know, lets eliminate guns, right? Yeah, that’ll work.

  • Warrior

    A Jihadist gunman perhaps?

  • me3123

    Go to a county run facitlity, they are gun free zones and a murderer would have his pick

  • tommy mc donnell

    how many of these shootings have we had during Obama’s reign? not once has anyone in the democrat party-media complex blamed the light-bringer. how many times do you thing that would have happened during the bush presidency?

  • M N

    The shootings will continue as long as the nuts know their stories will be told, and safe hunting preserves are maintained for them. It’s instant notoriety and safe opportunities, not guns, movies, or video games.

  • Klingon00

    …and murders. They really should ban those too. Oh wait…

  • Peter Quinn

    Yep…

  • WessOA

    If you can’t get rid of 11-13 million illimigrants then don’t even talk to me about getting rid of 400 million+ guns. That means stop with the stupid “Gun free” zones already you imbeciles and deal with the the reality that criminals DO NOT OBEY THE LAW!! Try posting “Gun Packing Zone” and see how many shootings you get.

  • Chaidogbites

    More like a free gun zone.

  • SHOUTING EL DUDERINO

    THEY SHOULD MAKE OPEN ENROLLMENT COLLEGES ILLEGAL. DUMMIES SHOULD JUST WORK AT WALMART.

  • Peter Quinn

    That it solve it…

  • I’m not Racist,but

    Psychoactive medication and video games anyone?

  • Sameasit Everwas

    This is YOUR policy failure on parade.

  • SHOUTING EL DUDERINO

    HOW MUCH MORE OF THIS ARE WE AS A SOCIETY GOING TO TAKE?

    CLEARLY THE ANSWER IS TO BAN OPEN ENROLLMENT COMMUNITY COLLEGES!

  • DirtyHarry.44

    Because lunatics on the rampage obey gun free zones…

  • Just_a_Guy_Named_Joe

    Tomorrow! Pfftt! If the shooter is dark or Mediterranean then the news will jump back to Russian bombing our “allies” …snicker… in Syria.

  • Jack_Q

    Mis-information is already being put out about Oregon schools that say these are gun free zones.
    A person with a CHL (concealed handgun license) IS ALLOWED to have a fire arm in grades K – 12 AND COLLEGE CAMPUSES.

    It is a tragedy that no honest Oregon citizen was armed inside the building.

    http://www.oregonfirearms.org/chl-central/prohibited-places

  • Peter Quinn

    Wag the shooter…

  • SHOUTING EL DUDERINO

    PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF OREGON. MEET THE PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF NEW JERSEY.

  • roughman

    Obviously, larger “Gun-Free Zone” signs are indicated…

  • mrca

    Roseburg is in the heart of a wonderful hunting and fishing area. Zane Grey and Hemingway fished the Umpqua and Rogue rivers in the area. Locals have guns, just not on campus. Another infringement on the right to bear arms.

  • El Duderino

    “Abdul Azziz Mohammed-Hussein, who has a great-grandmother born in what is now Greece and is therefore white…”

  • US.Patriot1776

    Let me guess …you believe in gloBull warming, the war-on-women, and that islam is peace, too, right ?

    http://40.media.tumblr.com/f8da24209b27d013189e33efced6b3d4/tumblr_nuxeo523ps1r7p8tto1_500.jpg

  • Lex loathar

    Time to roll out the “crisis” actors and Man-Spun-Around 180 degrees Anderson Coopers green screen.

  • CCowardly LLion

    TV and Movies?

  • DanInOsprey

    Obviously a Trump supporter . . .

  • Alan Henry

    Anybody know if this guy was a Muslim?

  • 1911

    amazing how it’s only the gun free zones that crazies feel safe to go on a shooting spree

  • Peter Quinn

    Just like every other “mass shooter”….

  • emag

    “Shlep” Perfect!

  • Couldn’t agree more Mike. I noticed by your handle, you hail from Illinois. My hat’s off to you and those like you in a state having so much hostility towards gun rights.

  • funky321

    Liberals can also be called Degrowthers.

  • CCowardly LLion

    They do if they are law-abiding lunatics.

  • me3123

    My state passed open carry without permit but the publica (spelled incorrectly on purpose) owned facilities ban them

  • SHOUTING EL DUDERINO

    MAYBE THEY SHOULD REPLACE THOSE COOL “GUN FREE ZONE” SIGNS WITH “NO MASS KILLINGS ALLOWED” SIGNS.

  • bindare

    Do you think a shooter who would defy the College’s policy to establish a “gun free zone” would also not turn in his weapons if guns were outlawed? Answer that question not with your hopes but with your intellect.

  • SHOUTING EL DUDERINO

    OBRAINLESS? ABSOLUTELY, YES.

  • abcnewscensorscansuckit

    They will make the shooter a Trump supporter, in spite of the shooter having an altar to Borat Ostalin in its dorm room or apartment.

  • roughman

    After a shooting spree, they
    always want to take the guns away from the people who didn’t do it. I sure as
    hell wouldn’t want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are
    the police and the military.

    William Burroughs William Burroughs (b. 1914), U.S. author.

  • bicentennialguy

    Or just an opportunity to feel up young women.

  • dp

    They have Jeff. Where have you been? Only the law abiding leave their guns at home to follow the laws of the Federal, State, local law enforcement agencies as well as the colleges, hospitals other places.

  • ocean

    The Umpqua Community College is a Gun-Free campus.
    I wonder why the shooter went to Umpqua Community College?

  • Peter Quinn

    May take awhile to narrow that down…

  • Sameasit Everwas

    I’m going with meds as a definite.

  • No idea, but he was obviously illiterate. If he’d been able to read the “no guns allowed” signs he would have gone home. Or so the Left would have us believe.

  • Blactoseintolerant

    Dentist kills lion. Blame dentist. Nut shoots up campus. Blame gun.

  • Farid Rushdi

    I would really like to understand how liberals think that a gun-free zone would in any circumstance stop a shooting like this, and how they scoff at the idea that gun-free zones aren’t targets of these idiots who are attracted to them. I don’t get it. I wish I did.

    During the 1960’s, America was in turmoil, and these types of things were common. In the 1980’s America was prosperous and proud and you almost never heard of these types of attacks. But we’re replicating the bad economy and weak military from the 1960’s, and we’re back to Americans doing these kinds of things.

    Good economy, patriotism & strong military = happy content citizens.

  • Alistaire Smythe

    Here Here……..You are right on the money!

  • Klingon00

    There must be a reason…

  • BHF

    Too bad the shooter didn’t get the memo about not bringing a gun. I guess that would have stopped them.

  • SHOUTING EL DUDERINO

    BECAUSE THEY’RE STUPID?

  • Independent “Terrorist”

    its gun free for everyone but the shooter.

  • Dane Ironfoote

    The “gun free zone” thing has proven to be useless and detrimental to life time and time again.

  • roughman

    Humanity.

  • Dane Ironfoote

    Let me guess – the shooter was on medication for depression and anxiety…

  • DirtyHarry.44

    Saw it on some news report years ago, the kids go through a metal detector and then their friends were handing them their backpacks through the windows. All caught on tape. Can’t remember if it was 20/20 or some show like that.

  • Remember the movement to ‘expose’ CCW permit holders? I propose we list folks like Doug as ‘gun free’ homesteds so criminals will leave us alone.

  • gizkastomper

    Shameful to be making this political.

  • CNN is not demanding Trump, Carson, Rubio and Fiorina suspend campaign so we can safely put this shooting down on the Democrat mass killer docket.

  • Ronald

    If the shooter is a White guy, the “news” will portray
    him as a “NAZI”. If he is an African, they will portray him
    as a “youth” who suffers from psychological distress.

  • robert

    Another failed angry black man. black lives matter….

  • IRightULeft

    LIBERALISM – The “brain-free zone”

  • Farid Rushdi

    If the shooter was a Republican, or a white man, it’s going to be 24/7 coverage by MSNBC. If the shooter was a minority, or a woman, the hurricane will be the coverage you’ll see.

  • Tiber

    no he was southern Baptist.

  • aquamaninaz

    “psychological distress” brought on by white people.

  • 338_win_mag

    Some people can’t handle the truth. Truth is that evil people don’t ever obey laws of any kind. Gun control is just a means of disarming the law abiding among us. Criminals by their very nature will never abide by gun control laws as evidenced by this shooting today.

  • motnosnarblug

    The only thing that changed is how we handle the mentally ill. Sure am glad they’re rights are being protected by letting them roam free!

  • Lex loathar

    The FBI will hide his Swanson Hungry Nomad frozen camel dinners from the TB news.

  • Farid Rushdi

    It’s hard to bring politics into such a tragic situation, but man, when you’re right …..

  • Retired Marine

    The fixation on whether or not something has been designated a gun free zone is a red herring. There are bigger issues at heart here to include the depth and scope of background checks, the integration of mental health records, waiting periods, school security posture, etc, etc, etc. We clearly have a problem in this country. GFZ’s are a distraction meaningless unless there is a security process in place to verify as such, like when you enter a courthouse, etc. However, the NRA likes for people to focus on it and proliferates the discussion through press releases and even internet memes, because they don’t want to have a real discussion, just distraction. I say this as one who owns a lot of firearms, but I’m not a shill for the NRA.

  • DirtyHarry.44

    Well those are already illegal…aren’t they?

  • nondescript

    I’m guessing the shooter wasn’t aware of the universities gun policy?

  • istheresomethingonmyhead

    Execute the Gun!

  • carlparsosn

    Everything is political. Even Islam is political. Maybe you should learn that lesson.

  • Steve Kratz

    Obviously more laws would have stopped this from happening… Oh, wait, gun free zones don’t work?

  • Meathead Rob Lowe ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    So very, very, ignorant.

  • mac

    I wonder how many would have been shot had it not been a gun free zone?

  • G Man

    I blame the Republicans!!!!! We need to raise taxes on the 1 percenters to help fund placing larger “Gun Free Zone” signs. Not only will they be larger, they will be written in multiple languages. Artfully written of course so is not to offend the non-English speaking people. I estimate it should cost a small price. I say about $22 billion.

  • Tree Top

    HY, IMO you win the Internet for the day!

    “They don’t trust students to carry, but trust criminals to obey the law.”

    That says it all! Semper Fi, Tree Top

  • Mother Nature’s Son

    cool they all have the matching green T-shirt. I survived the crisis actor field trip again.

  • bindare

    How many young Americans are taking mind altering drugs on a regular basis?

  • Southern_Cross

    Of course…

    You never have mass shootings at gun stores, gun shows, or police stations…

    It’s not rocket science.

  • mikeinchicagoarea

    The problem with “gun free zones” is how to enforce them. Ideally, every zone should be gated with security. Ain’t gonna happen. True gun free zones are only in the utopian mind of liberals.

  • LC_CPA

    Thank goodness for this ‘incident’, it will give the President??? some cover from his total embarrassing failure in Syria and elsewhere! Never let a good crisis go to waste…

  • US.Patriot1776

    History is clear. Stickers on campus doors saying “no guns allowed” don’t stop criminals and provide everyone else with a false sense of security.

    .
    Umpqua Community College is a “gun free zone” meaning no guns are
    allowed on campus and concealed carry is forbidden. The following
    warning to that effect is posted on the campus security web page:

    Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including
    but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols, and paint guns)
    ammunition, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or any other objects as
    weapons on college property, except as expressly authorized by law or
    college regulations, is prohibited.

    Possession of knives with a blade longer than 4” is prohibited.

    Brandishing weapons is prohibited.

    Misuse of personal defensive weapons – e.g., pepper spray, etc. is
    prohibited. The owner is responsible and accountable for any misuse of
    these devices.

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/10/foghorn/breaking-10-dead-20-wounded-in-oregon-school-shooting/

  • Dan Titsworth

    Any chance of Satanic influence?

  • tredshift

    They Definitely Need More “Gun-Free Zone” signs around that campus

  • Just_a_Guy_Named_Joe

    For real! They should, like, outlaw murder and hurting people and stuff. Cuz…better laws make for safer everybodies…and stuff. And kitties.

    (Yes, I know you were being sarcastic…I was just following up with a bit of my own.)

  • gizkastomper

    Pretty sure it was the murderer responsible for these deaths, not partisan politics. You should be ashamed.

  • Klingon00

    According to Douglas County Commissioner Chris Boice this college was indeed a gun free zone.

    The college’s security policy states:
    “Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols, and paint guns) ammunition, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or any other objects as weapons on college property, except as expressly authorized by law or college regulations, is prohibited,”.

  • Kellel

    No duh it’s a gun free zone. Your basically a mark for target in all gun free zones.

  • motnosnarblug

    ” I say this as one who owns a lot of firearms…

    Yeah, right.

  • Meathead Rob Lowe ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Someone commented on another site, “Where was the good guy with a gun?”

    He was there, but his gun wasn’t because he is a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN!!!!

  • ZZZzzzz

    A gun-free zone huh? Music to the ears of this shooter. Not only is it a gun-free zone, it’s a squirt gun free zone, BB gun free zone, airgun free zone and a pepper spray free zone. Stupid liberals and their policies. Many lives would have been saved had someone had a gun and put this savage psycho out of his misery when he fired the first shot. One good thing about Oregon, they have the death penalty, so this killer will get his.

  • Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    Remember folks, in England, where guns are almost impossible to legally own, a jihadist was able to obtain a fully automatic AK-47, a banned firearm. Brazil, which has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world, has one of the highest rates of firearm violence. The USA falls right in the middle when it comes to the rate of firearm violence in the world, most of the nations with higher rates have more restrictive gun laws than we do, most of the nations with lower rates have less restrictive gun laws. More, England has one of the highest rates of knife assaults in the world, despite knives being highly restricted. Why go to the expense of a gun when your victims are almost certain to have no means of self-defense?

  • Southern_Cross

    Doubt that, the campus is 85% white, less than 1% black.

    It’s rural Oregon, not Detroit.

  • Lex loathar

    Dude! The problem is the elephant in the room no one wants to accept – MIND BENDING DRUGS!

  • WhiskeyRun

    Wow! Your perspective based on current events is interesting. Thanks for your insight.

  • Steve Kratz

    Wrong – The distraction is the fact that gun-grabbers think you can legislate sanity into something that can’t be controlled. Since the beginning of man, bad people have done bad things. People are also good at masking their true feelings, so no matter how many background checks, pysch exams, etc., that you do, you’re going to have people committing acts of violence. Even if you magically took away all guns, are you prepared to remove knives? Rocks? Sticks? Shall we chop off people’s hands and feet as they are used frequently to kill as well. Perhaps mandatory lobotomies as the brain is where the act of violence originates…

  • Yasherka

    Wow! You intellectually destroyed him!

  • DanInOsprey

    Particularly since it’s Oregon, after the initial dust settles stand by for a small group of victims’ parents to form an “Umpqua Parents Against Senseless Gun Violence!”
    And yes, I do feel very bad about the students hurt or killed, and their families – which is WHY I am completely opposed to these insane “gun-free zones.”

  • Steve Kratz

    Exactly. Murder should be illegal!

  • LC_CPA

    I’m sorry, but ‘conspiracy theorists’ seriously can’t think this was planned by Obummer! Not that he won’t take full advantage of it… Really, such theories just play into the hands of the Left. JMHO, YMMV

  • Ragg muff

    The Communist Ghoul has been Exposed as a NAKED NOTHING by the RUSSIAN BEAR. Of course this happened today. Just gave Iran a nuke deal and 150 Billion and days later is Working with Russia to take over Middle East!

  • Lyles

    Let me guess, you have never been to Oregon have you? Take away Portland, Eugene, and Salem, and its a pretty conservative state, including the town of Roseburg where this took place. These young people who were shot did not deserve what happened to them no matter what thier personal political beliefs were. So do yourself a favor and try and focus your anger on the people responsible for this. That would be the shooter, and the radical left wing politicians who will not allow the people to exercise their god given right to protect themselves. They are the ones to blame, not the students. Or if you can’t seem to see clearly, then maybe you should just find the nearest bridge and take a flying leap off of it.

    Actually, I don’t even know why I replied to your stupid statement. you are probably another left wing troll poising as a conservative, trying to give us a bad name. So screw you troll.

    This is another case where just one properly trained armed student or faculty member with a firearm could have possibly stopped this.

  • LC_CPA

    Oh so cute… but not really pertinent do you think, Joe? What a liberal idiot!

  • doug

    Your pathic paratrooper, do like making threats? You most likely daydream of using your gun everytime you look at your small penis!

  • angryguy77

    Funny, do we even know anything about the shooter? For all we know he was a hateful lefty that passed the BC and wasn’t on meds(although he should be if he was a lefty).

  • mxkied6

    You can’t tell a dumb liberal this. By liberal logic spoons make people fat.

  • Dian_Cecht

    Russia launches WW3 in the Middle East with the bombing of moderate rebels; highlighting the complete FAILURE of Obama and his Progressive administration’s foreign policy in the Middle East..

    On the same day….LOOK! another mass shooting.

  • ZZZzzzz

    Excellent point!

  • armymom

    Yep! Distraction is the name of the game.

  • Retired Marine

    Good job, don’t address a single point. Next up you’ll imply that I’m not a real Marine since in your limited world view, no “real” Marine could ever not possibly be a shill for the NRA and think for themselves. One can own guns, like guns and still believe that there are plenty of people who have no business being near a gun.

  • Both-parties-SUCK!

    Derp!

  • US.Patriot1776

    “The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.”

    ― Jeff Cooper

    10 Ways To Improve Your Situational Awareness

    http://besurvival.com/tips-and-tricks/10-ways-to-improve-your-situational-awareness

    Cursed With Failing Federal Security, Smart Gun Owners Are Upgrading Their Concealed Carry.

    http://bearingarms.com/cursed-failing-federal-security-smart-gun-owners-upgrading-concealed-carry/

  • Gary Lowndes

    I’m sure the main stream media is furiously trying to connect the shooter to talk radio or the tea party. That’s why we haven’t heard much from them yet.

  • WhiskeyRun

    Put down the fork and step away from the feeding trough.

  • 8411c

    Well, I guess if you mention that this sort of tragedy always seems to happen every time Obama suffers a world class failure, as in Syria, and dare to wonder if these psychos are programmed or what, and point out that it happens often enough to form a pattern that’s not random enough to be coincidence, you get censored and quick!

    Again, my condolences to the innocent victims and families of these “gun free” zones and the ideology that spawned them.

  • DanInOsprey

    With a credit to Dr. Demento . . .

  • Thor

    Odd how this type of thing usually happens.

  • Gary Lowndes

    The sad part is, the left does believe it.

  • Steve Kratz

    Pathic? Learn to come close to spell much?

    And why are gun grabbers so focused on people’s penises? Say that to a woman that wants the ability to protect and defend herself and her family ever?

  • Hy Feiber

    Unless the leftist Governor declares a moratorium, as he did in Washington.

    Of course it’s full speed ahead for abortions, no moratorium there.

  • Retired Marine

    Brilliant retort. Now back to your stupid rants about GFZs. The discussions from you Drudge-ites are almost as pointless as unenforced GFZs.

  • WhiskeyRun

    “Rosebud”

  • DanInOsprey

    And organizer for Donald Trump.

  • Jack_Q

    Klingon00, Read the link carefully…State law supersedes security policies and ‘gun-free zone’ signs.

    DID YOU NOT READ YOUR OWN REPLY?

    Boice: “…except as expressly authorized by law”

  • Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

    Another point, for 200 years even a convicted murderer could walk right out of prison after serving his time and purchase a firearm because it was recognized that rights may not be denied any American citizen. Since we decided that government has a duty to determine which citizens should have their constitutionally guaranteed rights and the power to deny them those rights do you feel safer? All that ruling has achieved is that it’s turned our constitutionally enumerated, guaranteed and protected rights as citizens of the United States into mere privileges that can be taken and given at will by government. Today you have more right to force a baker to make and sell you a cake than you do any of your guaranteed rights.

  • Mark 2112

    pretty sure if it was explained to you in pictures using crayons and talking v-e-r-y slowly you still couldn’t understand.

  • Jim Greaves

    Recycled toilet paper. That way they can print up all kinds of s h i t t y liberal signs.

  • Farid Rushdi

    I am the biggest Reagan supporter–proud to have voted for him twice–but a lot of this started when he reduced/stopped funding mental institutions federally and asked the states to do it. The states didn’t and the floodgates opened.

  • Thor

    LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

  • Seerightthere!

    He couldn’t spell it….

  • Meathead Rob Lowe ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    WWIII was not launched. Sensationalize much bro!!!!

  • WI Native

    Your logic is sound, however this is how it would go down in a liberal mind. The dentist didn’t use a gun, so pointing that out would give a liberal cover making him/her think they’ve scored a point. And it’s actually not the gun that’s blamed in mass shootings it’s all the law abiding gun owners because we wouldn’t have as many guns in the country without their guns. Throw on top a slam on capitalism thinking something crazy thing like gun manufactures just want to kill people.

  • CCowardly LLion

    School shootings and mass killings per year

    2015 4

    2014 4

    2013 3

    2012 9

    2011 6

    2010 3

    2009 2

    2008 6

    2007 5

    2006 5

    2005 2

    2004 1

    2003 3

    2002 4

    2001 7

    2000 4

    1999 6

    1998 5

    1997 5

    1996 3

    The numbers may not be accurate, the web site had some kid
    that had committed suicide in front of his schoolmates, so take this with a
    grain of salt.

  • crs44

    I’m sure you’ll be saying that to the liberals that will be screaming for more gun control.

  • Jim Greaves

    See 3rd photo of article above…

  • Steve Kratz

    And we should just ignore the fact that libtards want all these gun-free zone signs, and they don’t deter someone from committing acts of violence. You can’t legislate sanity.

  • Neonentity

    This happened at a rural community college, not a “liberal hotbed” as some of the posts here assert. Oregon is politically conservative except in a few populous counties and is one of only seven states that allow concealed carry on campuses. I can’t speak to the college’s internal policy as their site is down. It is simply too bad that no one seems to have been exercising their right to carry and properly deal with the scumbag.

  • Meathead Rob Lowe ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    So not only are you ignorant, you are also a bigot. Duly noted.

  • Dian_Cecht

    Taking time out from playing with your life sized Obama love doll to come here and “manage” opinion? F OFF, leftist pukeshlt

  • angryguy77

    And here you just gave yourself away…..”drudge-ites”

    Nice try troll.

  • Thor

    If they would have very large gun free zone signs at all the entrances than that would have prevented the shooting. Their gun free zone signs are too small.

  • Retired Marine

    It’s a matter of what the acceptable levels of violence that we as a society are comfortable living with. Only delusional people think you can legislate all violence away and it’s not an argument that I made. But nice strawman argument . . .

  • Ragg muff

    35k Car deaths a year. Lets ban the car also.. Very Unsafe!

  • Flush

    Even off duty officers that work for public school systems in another capacity here in Florida, CAN NOT carry their duty issued weapons concealed on campus. What is WRONG WITH THIS?

  • dave0987

    Wow you really are completely clueless aren’t you. That’s a shame.

    You act as if you haven’t seen any of what Mike is talking about.

    Those of us that haven’t been under a rock the last 10 or 20 years, are just as sick of it all as he is because we’ve seen this play out so many times before exactly the same damn way.

  • The Mikado

    Yes, it was. You need the ability to think forward and tie it in with all world-wide events.

  • US.Patriot1776

    Don’t believe the Lib BS – there are NO such thing as “moderate” islamist rebels!

    US-trained rebels give equipment to al-Qaeda affiliate

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34368073?ocid=socialflow_twitter

    How the Taliban got their hands on modern US missiles

    http://nypost.com/2014/06/08/how-the-taliban-got-their-hands-on-modern-us-missiles/

    Newly-Declassified U.S.Government Documents: The West Supported the Creation of ISIS

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/newly-declassified-u-s-government-documents-the-west-supported-the-creation-of-isis.html

    Benghazi Witness: U.S. Provided Arms to Jihadists Who Killed Americans in 9/11 Attack

    http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/08/29/benghazi-witness-u-s-provided-arms-to-jihadists-who-killed-americans-in-911-attack/

  • mdy616

    The leftist response? Take MY gun away in Michigan because someone in Oregon used a gun. THAT is the logic of the left. Never would it occur to them to arm the law abiding…oh NO!!! THAT makes too much sense! Why don’t they go after cars like they go after guns? More drunks kill than guns do. BUT they would never do that because it would INCONVENIENCE a leftist so they are not concerned with the drunk drivers and taking away cars. Just like they will not go after private jets that are supposedly destroying the environment. WHY?? Because elitist leftists would be INCONVENIENCED!! The ONLY thing the left wants to ban is things they don’t want. I guess they figure guns will always be available to their body guards! If they really want to ban guns then when they demand their body guards no longer have them i will believe they mean it. Until then, they are just being the hypocrites they have always been.

  • FW190

    Rahm Emanuel was falling all over himself blaming “access to guns” for the murder machine operating in his gun-free zone city. What was it again? 100 people shot over the last two weeks or something?

  • Meathead Rob Lowe ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    LMFAO I am far more conservative than you or pretty much anyone else here bro!!!

  • flowers_for_all_p0liticians

    You’re right putin didn’t start it, hussein did with his ineptness and community organizing BS.

  • motnosnarblug

    Thanks! I thought I did that well.

    Having interviewed and interrogated individuals for decades, one thing that I learned that when one explains or tries to alibi something for which he or she has not been accused, he or she is guilty. So yes, it’s quite possible you nom de plume is a misnomer as well.

    Oh, yeah, when I hear of a mass shooting at at gun range, I will concede your point on gun free zones.

  • HoiPolloiBoy

    I tried to edit the Umpqua Community College page on Wiki to post the above OCC gun free zone policy but was blocked.

  • Dian_Cecht

    I’m NOT you “bro” Step away from the bong.

  • Aabbea

    You have to be using sarcasm.

  • Reality Blowz

    I just hope that the authorities swiftly determine what type of flag that the shooter may have been photographed with or has flown, so that it can be immediately banned to stop another tradgedy like this from reoccuring.

  • ere

    ….it’s Bush’s fault!!!!!

  • dave0987

    It’s the classic liberal rebuttal. When you can’t win the argument either pull the race card, ad hominem attacks, and/or profane insults. Name calling, personal attacks etc.

  • Meathead Rob Lowe ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Everyone is my bro, bro!!!

  • mdy616

    How did this shooter get his gun on campus then? The signs did not stop him? WOW!! That will blow away the left!!

  • Derick Moore

    Hey Giz, it is political. Pelosi, Reed, Obama, Bloomberg, and a whole slue of Democrats (in general) support gun control. And, nothing good has ever come from giving politicians more control over the citizenry. I won’t trot out the usual facts, I’m sure you know them if you know any history at all. (Do you really think that a bunch of powerful millionaires are thinking of your best interests…. while knowing they support abortion and euthanasia?)

  • angryguy77

    I suspect mr marine is good buddies with cobrapilot………..

  • Sargent

    When the people will realize that living in a democrat control state your life is in danger. They create those gun free zones to invite the criminals to have free hunting season. Stupid Americans will remain stupid for life and there is no exception to that.

  • motnosnarblug

    “Drudge-ites,” the mating call of the North American liberal troll.

  • scumbuster

    GUN FREE means more death by NUT THUGS.

  • Hy Feiber

    Shameful Leftists make it political.

  • FW190

    And he also said that one guy had a small penis, so they have that too.

  • Steve Doll

    Ah, yes, nice spin saying the shooter was another libtard. Most of the mass shootings are not done by liberals, and for you to say otherwise is a lie.

  • Thor

    Heard that the shooter was wearing a thong and carrying a rainbow flag. Just saying…

  • GUN FREE means more death by LIBERAL NUT THUGS

    There, fixed it for you.

  • nadadhimmi

    Most assuredly another leftist, disgruntled about a romance or acedemic failures. Most assuredly on SSRI’s also. It’s the drugs that set them off after they’re primed by social justice poisoning.

  • Reality Blowz

    How about drug overdoses?
    We had better ban injection needle manufacturing and possesion.
    Doesn’t matter if they save lives, the illegal drug use outweighs their legal need.

  • motnosnarblug

    When will these people learn that the harder they try to establish their bona fides, the more clearly they reveal their true identities?

  • HolyReignOfFire

    Here’s another important way to fight crime – empower law-abiding gun owners to defend
    themselves. Law enforcement is great, they do a tremendous job, but they can’t be everywhere
    all of the time. Our personal protection is ultimately up to us.

    Donald J. Trump

  • Whoaboy

    The shooter broke the law and brought a gun to a gun free zone!

  • angryguy77

    If anything, it’s entertaining to see them try so hard.

  • CCowardly LLion

    Ban rainbow flags from Amazon and ebay, now!

  • motnosnarblug

    That’s true!

  • The Libretardo thought process.

  • Matt

    If they’re going to make it a gun free zone, than they should man the facility with armed law enforcement to protect those students in lieu of them being armed to protect themselves.

  • kogk1943

    The sign wasn’t big enough.

  • Peter Quinn

    14 shot in a 15 hour period last weekend in Chicago…

  • John

    Unfortunately we’re going to have another knee jerk discussion about banning inanimate objects, or the features of the inanimate object (mag capacity, bayonet lugs, barrel shrouds aka “the thing on the shoulder that goes up”). Like it or not we have a 2nd amendment, and whether you agree or not with the SCOTUS interpretation in Heller, it was declared an individual right. Like it or not there are a LOT of people in this country who use firearms for sporting and self defense purposes, these people vote and are members of various organizations, such as the NRA, that lobby politicians. Like the NRA or not, they do exist and place pressure on politicians. So banning guns is not going to happen, placing more laws and restrictions on the existing ones is, at best, political dynamite.

    So what can we do? How about having a discussion about the PEOPLE who commit these crimes? How can we identify them and help them before they shoot up a school or church? How can we make sure that their information is available to gun stores BEFORE they buy a gun? Why don’t we hear more about the commonalities these shooters have with each other (I’m going out on a limb and guessing there are a lot of ADHD, ADD, and anti-depressant meds in common). These are tough solutions, tougher than banning an inanimate object, which is easy legislation to write and easier for the politician to vote for or against. People are hard, things are easy. But regulating a thing will not help.

  • TheLORDYourGOD

    My bet is that the shooter is a follower of Muhammad the pedophile.

  • Sheep dogs to protect the sheeple.

  • Cahal the Mad™

    And as always, before any bodies are even cold, Obama’s paid liar Josh Earnest, is already spouting his BS anti-gun rhetoric. The leftrash NEVER care about their victims, only about oppressing and enslaving all law-abiding citizens.

  • ocean

    The rich liberal elites want to keep the
    peasants unarmed.
    That is why they hate the Second Amendment.

  • ttt

    ….Cue the Hand Wringing

  • JonInVa

    I’m beginning to wonder how “coincidental” it always seems that when some crisis is going on in the world (this time, it’s Russia taking over Mid-East power) that makes Obama look like the weakling fool he is, there is always a domestic event that happens to pull the news away. Almost every time lately.

  • Rstrker27

    Is there anything more stupid than a ” Gun Free Zone ” ? I can see it now. Some loon loads up and heads out to shoot a place up but when arrives he sees that gun free zone sign. ” Darn ” he says. ” I guess I’ll have to go back home and figure out something else. “

  • Peter Quinn

    Pretty sure it wasn’t the murderer who created
    this “gun free” zone. But he sure exploited it, didn’t he..?

  • DanInOsprey

    One female student who survived in a nearby classroom just said on FoxNews that took 20 minutes before the police showed up.

  • CCowardly LLion

    You mean to tell me that sign outside “Gun-Free Zone” would not deter a person from bringing a weapon into that gun-free zone if their intent was anything less than lawful? How can that be?

  • If you put your money on a Muslim or a deranged Liberal bedwetter who didn’t get a trophy for tee-ball in the 5th grade, you’ll likely win that bet!

  • HolyReignOfFire

    NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY. The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your
    driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do
    too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s
    common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for
    driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which
    is a right, not a privilege.

    Donald J. Trump

  • Suprememayo

    derp….derp…derp…..I’m a liberal moron…..derp….derp….derp…..

  • Miagogo

    Good thing the college banned all guns – even water pistols. They are committed to student safety.

  • US.Patriot1776

    The definition of ‘insanity’ is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results…

    160+ UT-Austin Professors “Refuse” to Allow Concealed Carriers Into the Classroom

    University of Texas professors are revolting. In response to the passage of campus carry legislation SB 11
    prohibiting state-funded institutions of higher learning from banning legal concealed carry as of August 16, 2016, UT teaching staff are adding their names to a Google document entitled 160+ UT PROFESSORS REFUSE GUNS IN THEIR CLASSROOMS….

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/09/robert-farago/160-ut-austin-professor-refuse-to-allow-concealed-carriers-into-the-classroom/

    http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/UT-English-Professor-Ann-Cvetkovich-courtesy-dailytexanonline.com_.jpg

  • Meathead Rob Lowe ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    I wonder why the words Gun Free Zone on the sign posted did not stop the shooter bro???

  • Lex loathar

    At least they are consistent at putting their efforts forward. Too bad they couldn’t be as consistent at gainful employment?

  • MrDrysdale

    Great idea!

  • DanInOsprey

    Cheaper. Only need it in Spanish, Arabic, and Farsi (besides English).

  • I’m shocked, shocked I tell you, to find out that a GUN FREE ZONE sign did not repel an attacker!

  • Suprememayo

    iberal logic

  • Thor

    Shouldn’t be no surprise. Most communities have to cut somewhere. No worries…they should have made this a “gun free zone.” Wait, it was. WORRY!

  • Miagogo

    Pssssh, nobody listens to him anymore…

  • CCowardly LLion

    Who’d have thought criminals don’t obey gun laws?

  • motnosnarblug

    “It’s a matter of what the acceptable levels of violence that we as a society are comfortable living with.”

    There is such a thing as an “acceptable” level of violence??? Do tell.

  • Cugger

    So sorry to the families of the students.
    That said, this again proves that criminals do not follow laws, even when explicitly spelled out in the local rule book. I wonder if lefties will ever figure this out?

  • Guido FL

    Gun Free zone didn’t work did it ? Like Drug Free zones, these laws don’t mean $hit do they !

  • Retired Marine

    It’s par for the course for you Drudge-ites to accuse me of not being a real Marine because I don’t simply echo was Levin, Hannity and Church tell me to. So what about owning a gun means that one can’t possibly believe that having a honest and reasonable discussion on gun control can’t take place? Me owning firearms doesn’t mean I traded in my ability to think for myself when I bought them. I also own a few suppressors, one from Liberty the other from Silencerco, but again, please continue with skating around the argument. Your final point, made a joke no doubt, actually does skirt near my point about enforcing GFZs, much in the same way it is enforced at courthouses and some school districts in L.A.

  • Shears-of-Atropos

    How often need it be said: This proves that common sense gun laws prohibiting weapons in schools prevent violent crimes, which means this never happened. Right?

    Welcome to Realville.

  • Elmo

    You people who insist on these “gun free zones” are absolutely entrusting the well being of your children to the whims of the insane.

  • Cranios

    duhhhhhh

  • angryguy77

    and people think it’s a joke when I say liberalism is a mental disorder.

  • Thor

    You’re dealing with liberal logic. Absolutely zero common sense.

  • Sparafucile

    They don’t just ban water pistols, they ban ammunition.

  • Agreed. How can this be? I mean Chiraq Illinois is a gun free zone with a gun BAN in place yet they shoot 50 or60 every weekend!

  • FrozenPatriot

    hahaha, they’re above the law, dontchyaknow…

    Laws for thee, but not for meeeeeeeee!

  • Teachem-Twice

    ” I can’t speak to the college’s internal policy as their site is down” Uhhh, Gun Free Zone signs are seen on campus so i guess that explains the policy part of that fruitcake LIBERAL School!

  • pissedoffconsumer

    Let me guess! The shooter is ANOTHER Liberal whack job on Meds for mental health issues

  • Sparafucile

    Unless they’re checking their “lie of the day” feed.

  • Retired Marine

    Proof I’m not a Marine? Proof that you have any experience TQing people? Guess what, Marines aren’t all card carrying members of the Tea Party. Most of us are socially liberal and were taught to think for ourselves.

  • CCowardly LLion

    Just more proof that liberals are insane and there’s no cure
    for their insanity.

  • Miagogo

    Well, the left does need to memorize their lines.

  • Beezle

    The government likes to waste money on studies. Let’s do a study on how many shootings occurred before gun free zones and after.

  • Well there IS a cure. 147grains of 30cal, moving at abut 2000 fps, letting the air out of their cranial vault.

  • Retired Marine

    Are the vast majority of people not on this website because of Drudge?

  • Disqus

    Here comes the left: “How many more people have to die for us to implement full gun control in this country?”

  • Beezle

    so, you want liberals locked up, sounds like a plan to me

  • Peter Quinn

    If they only tried as hard to find a job
    as they do to shoot people..

  • frenk

    Most of the criminals are illiterate and even if they can read, they never obey any laws..

  • AsktheWhiteGuy

    I’m not even waiting for Chicago Neighborhood Organizer and Plugs to start talking gun control again. I’m going out and buying a gun TODAY!

  • Steve Kratz

    You’re calling strawman argument when you tried to run the argument to needing more background checks and mental health? If we’re going that far, if you fail one of these “checks”, then anything that’s usable as a weapon should be taken away. If you pizzed me off enough that I wanted to wring your neck, not having a firearm with me wouldn’t stop me.

  • I agree. Liberals should be locked up in loony bins and the sooner the better!

  • Chicago now renamed to Chiraq.

  • Verbotene Gedanken

    All of them.

  • Suprememayo

    Hypocrite much?

  • CCowardly LLion

    That’s some pretty truculent language there. The nuts that have done the shootings have almost all been liberals. I’m wondering if this will turn out to be the case again.

  • motnosnarblug

    You accused yourself, son. Gun control is covered very well in the Constitution. Kudos on taking the time to research suppressor manufacturers (I was wondering why it took so long to type your post).. How is it you legally own those, and on what weapons are they installed?

  • angryguy77

    lol. you’re no marine.

  • Miagogo

    I know! Lots! We need lots more victims because we’re too scared to go after criminals and crazies.

  • Oboy_must_go

    Can we blame this on climate change?

  • motnosnarblug

    LOL!!!!

  • BHF

    “Safe space” tells you everything you need to know about this leftist idiot.

  • Suprememayo

    ^^^liberal moron

  • Retired Marine

    I used that term because you guys live in your information bubbles and you all say basically the same things over and over in any comment section of a page linked to Drudge. I know what the theme of the comments section will be based upon the story simply by the fact that it’s linked to Drudge. Therefore you all simply get affirmation of your existing world views given the amount of traffic that Drudge drives. It’s sad since so few of you seemingly have an original thought that was towing the party line of Levin, Hannity, Church, etc . . . the same could be said for any article that HuffPo drives traffic to. Too many of you seek affirmation and not information. It’s the kind of process that makes people think that someone like Trump has any legitimate chance of winning in a national election. So cycle continues . .. .

  • zombietimeshare

    Gun free? Call it what it is, a predator safe hunting ground.

  • Cugger

    Plus, most of those nut jobs are on some sort of drugs to contain a mental disorder. The tail wags the dog.

  • Nevadavoter1

    What a tragedy! Those who supported banning guns on Umpqua CC campus should have kept in mind that when you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns! Thank you for your shortsightedness…

  • Retired Marine

    Marine is actually capitalized.

  • BHF

    When seconds count, the cops are minutes away. Good thing all the law abiding citizens who might have been able to cut the murder spree short were disarmed by the leftist Utopians.

  • Cainemarko

    Probably not, but I’m sure Gore would be happy to set up a caliber-offset credit for you. Just send him the cash. As much and as often as possible.

  • motnosnarblug

    Oh, but he’s a retired Marine and you would be in danger of a serious beating if you tried to do so! 😉

  • Suprememayo

    I am sure Obama will be blaming it on Republicans before the bodies turn cold.

  • Miagogo

    Hysterical, irrational fear is a human trait for those on the left.

  • 94c2500

    I’m from the area and can tell you that if any of these progressive “Professors” attempt to violate the law, they will lose their jobs.

  • Retired Marine

    The Silencerco .45 is on the Glock 21. The Liberty QD is on one of my piston ARs.

  • Suprememayo

    Liberal logic……

  • The Left will blame it on SCDS (seasonal change derangement syndrome) once the perp is ID’d as a Leftist piglet.

  • TinStarred

    WARNING!! ……Common Sense to Follow…..

    “To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and
    law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own
    conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the
    law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the
    lawless will allow… For society does not control crime, ever, by
    forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected
    behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals
    to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding.” Jeff Snyder

  • HolyReignOfFire

    Time to introduce firearms training as early as possible (First Grade) and make EVERYONE a marksman and allow students to carry EVERYWHERE.

  • Oboy_must_go

    The only thing that stopped this bad guy with a gun was a good guy with a gun.

  • Countrygirl1411

    I am sure some elected official will try, the tried to blame Ferguson on climate change, why not this.
    Do a search on “Environmentalist: Ferguson Happened Because of Climate Change”

  • CCowardly LLion

    That logic is lost on liberals.

  • angryguy77

    I find it quite odd that a person saying we don’t think for ourselves is here talking about how we need to prevent the mentally unstable etc from getting guns. Yet, we DON’T KNOW A THING ABOUT THE SHOOTER.

    See, those of us who do think for ourselves will wait until we know what the motive was before making claims.

    You are liberal that’s posing as something else. But please keep dancing for us and stomping your feet about why we don’t believe you.

  • Suprememayo

    Liberals are morons

  • Retired Marine

    No, I said the discussion should be had and that making jokes about GFZs is exactly that, a joke. But here you are again trying to same tactic by countering an argument that I didn’t make.

  • Beezle

    You have to put feelings in it somehow for them to even read it.

  • Cugger

    …making this political…That is about all that exists in the country anymore. PC liberal politics.

  • billyboi57

    No one told you? Wow, imagine that. No one told the shooter that this is a gun free zone also.

  • motnosnarblug

    That’s half an answer. You are an easy interview, my friend! BTW, how quiet is that AR?

  • angryguy77

    When I talk to a real one, I’ll make sure to use proper English.

  • billyboi57

    Mentally ill morons.

  • angryguy77

    haha I thought this same thing. “quick, they’re not buying, better employ google and make myself look credible!”

  • Shears-of-Atropos

    Don’t worry, Oregon. You are as safe as can be, while the Chinese smuggle in illegal AK-47’s, the DOJ provides weaponry to the drug cartels, the WH leaves the borders as porous as cheesecloth, and the Department of State develops an agreement to let the Iranians get nukes. What could go wrong?

  • 94c2500

    Maybe the sign needed one of those LGBT rainbow flags in it’s background to be more visible?

  • Shamu

    I have always heard that “SHOOTERS” are reluctant to SHOOT at people who they think my “SHOOT BACK”. Make it mandatory for everyone to carry a gun. We are living in a similar environment to the OLD WEST.

  • Cugger

    Ugh, the truth sure hurts.

  • Beezle

    The only thing that stopped this “poor misunderstood youth” with a “evil” gun was a “LGBT bathhouse loving person” with a “righteous, globally neutral, LGBT friendly” gun.

    There fixed it now liberals will understand.

  • Stick

    Guaranteed. As with all school shooters his parents will be registered Dems.

  • Suprememayo

    ..but we did get a “gun free zone” sign for you!

  • CCowardly LLion

    The Hoax videos are starting to show up on youtube. Most are idiots who think they are Sherlock Holmes, destroying the credibility of those with decent reasoning capabilities.

  • Nevadavoter1

    Better hurry, they will be flying off the shelves!

  • Because liberal judges have pretty much taken serious penalties out of the punishment phase for capital crimes.

  • gsud1

    an armed society is a polite society.

  • Suprememayo

    Liberals are morons.

  • [email protected]+y

    Oregon law allows concealed carry for license holders on college campuses.

  • Shamu

    Will OBAMA and his band of left wing liberal loonies call for stricter gun controls and an executive order to take up our guns before sundown today?

  • Cugger

    Yes, but this campus was (before this shooter showed up) a gun free zone. A little bit of irony here.

  • EbolaJenkins

    was the victoms blacks????

  • UrdnotVakarian

    Tell that to Obama who just brought his puppet up on stage to lecture us on gun control.

  • bikerdogred1

    So parents how is that gun free zone working out for ya, too many democrats waling around not to be armed.

  • gizkastomper

    Where?

  • Retired Marine

    What half are you looking for? The stamp process was the same for both since I don’t run a trust. For one I just bought it from the local store and went through the process, for the other I had it shipped to a FFL who did the transfer. I can’t say how quiet it is in the real world since it’s only been used at an indoor range and clearly I can’t take my hearing pro off at indoor gun range.

  • dave0987

    Not when would be-victims have them, incorrect sir. Spend some time at http://www.gunsaveslives.net for starters

  • The Crow

    gizkahumper….Don’t go away mad, just go away !!!!!

  • Brent Busch

    Umpqua Community College is NOT a gun-free zone. Read ORS 166.370.

    http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/166.370
    Besure to see 166.370(3)(d)

  • Oboy_must_go

    In the face of everything wrong going on in this world and America….obama’s worried about restrooms for transvestites. Unreal.

  • SaveOurNation

    “The issue of sensible steps that can be taken to protect our communities from gun violence continues to be a top priority of this administration,” White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said.”

    Problem (Gun Free Zone), Reaction (OMG), Solution (Gun Control)

    Make no mistake folks it has nothing to do with “gun” control, but rather “Control” itself.

  • gizkastomper

    You’re right, that sign killed those people. Get a clue.

  • Meathead Rob Lowe ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Says the anonymous poster bro!!!

  • You bet he will Shamu. They are looking for a way to ban the 2nd amendment. O and the libs love this. And this was a gun-free zone too.

  • Meanwhile the skivvie stain in the WH gets protected by guns.

  • Hoax videos? You mean the conspiracy buffs?

  • Meathead Rob Lowe ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    If the College decides it is a gun free zone, then it is a gun free zone. They have no obligation to allow guns on their campus bro!!!

  • Cainemarko

    Please keep an ear out for the forth coming lies. Much like with Sandy Hook, we will suddenly have 75 “school” shootings within a few weeks. Regardless of the fact that it will simply be a drug deal gone bad a block from the school. Or the perpetrator simply graduated from that institution in 2001 and murdered someone miles away.

    Sorry, its up to 142 as of today… http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/1/142-school-shootings-sandy-hook-massacre-newtown-c/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS

  • Shears-of-Atropos

    It’s bitterly amusing to see that Obama and his home dogs are responsible for more firearm sales than the NRA could even dream of.

    Way to go, Barry.

  • angryguy77

    buys silencer…..uses it while wearing earmuffs.

  • Cugger

    Wow, a great point!

  • JimmaObama

    LOL your sarcasm sounds just like liberal logic…hehe

  • SaveOurNation

    Right, I will give mine up when everyone else is disarmed- not….

  • cuivre2004

    The purpose of politics is to decide who governs the people. When a tenet of liberalism fails, such as the idea of “gun free zones”, it is the responsibility of the citizens to replace these politicians with those who let people protect themselves. The right of self defense was SO obvious to the forefathers, they felt no need to mention it in the text of the Second Amendment.

  • Retire Marine

    False. I put that in a list of other meaningful discussions to have, but that making jokes about GFZs is just that, a joke. I’m not claiming to know anything about the shooter nor have I implied as much. Frankly though, you guys wouldn’t believe anybody who you disagree with on a topic. You guys love your circle jerks.

  • DJ Yates

    Steve… might want to re-read Mike in Illinois comment. Sounds like you misunderstood entirely.

  • Cugger

    LOL!

  • JimmaObama

    Love how the stories are starting out…..”a shooter” so that must be a wonderfully peaceful Muslim or American loving black must have done it…..there is usually no hesitation when it’s a white dude…..those stories always lead “A White Gunman”

  • motnosnarblug

    Googled “how to legally own a suppressor,” I see. Good job. Perhaps you also should have googled “the futility of suppression of weapons that fire supersonic rounds” and “reliability of gas-piston actions on suppressed weapons. I’d say you wasted some money there, sport!

  • Oboy_must_go

    Funny how those cop hating liberals are quick to call 911 when they need one.

  • Fisheye5

    When you or a loved one is killed, the weapon of choice is irrelevant. You are just as dead. If this evil person would have used a bomb, people would be just as dead but we would be having a completely different conversation.

    Also, do some research on the Columbine shootings of Klebold and Harris. Everyone made a big deal about the guns, but in reality the original plan was to be a bombing, not a shooting. The shooting was actually just the fallback plan implemented when the home-made bombs failed to go off. Bomb experts took the bombs and detonated them in a safe area and then measured the destructive impact. It was determined that had the bombs gone off as planned as they were planted in the cafeteria, literally hundreds would have been killed or severely maimed, instead of only 13 deaths. Additionally, the library was over the cafeteria and would have collapsed killing or wounding even more. As morbid as this sounds, a sick, evil person who is hellbent on killing people will find a way even if they can’t get a gun. And a home-made bomb will do a lot more harm than a gun.

  • Brent Busch

    Wrong! Public schools have no jurisdiction to supersede Oregon Revised Statutes, bro.

    http://www.oregonfirearms.org/chl-central/prohibited-places

    Private schools can set their own rules, public schools cannot!

  • motnosnarblug

    Yup. He was just avoiding answering the question. The first thing I would do if I acquired a suppressed weapon is take it somewhere to test its performance!

  • There it is. A gun free zone like Chicago and New York.
    Even on campuses, law abiding young men/women, should be allowed
    to carry a CCW. This would of never happened or ended earlier and
    saved lives.

  • Cugger

    Clearly, you do not understand carry conceal law. ANYONE can erect a sign on their property and declare that property “gun free”. Then, a legal person holding a CCL is in violation of state law and can be arrested, fined, and/or jailed if they enter the property armed.

  • CCowardly LLion

    Yep, currently listening to some live streaming on youtube where they are talking about the shooter, checking out his videos he had uploaded.

  • TinStarred

    I disagree ……example below

  • william russell

    Hey just another liberal progressive democratic run state with free gun zones sending a message to the nuts come here and kill as many as you want because no one has guns and you do not have to worry about being stopped and shot. How crazy can people be.

  • Meathead Rob Lowe ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Winner winner chicken dinner!!!!

  • Retire Marine

    And yet here we are with the oh so predictable tactic from you guys . . . I post something you don’t like, and then it just becomes a giant discussion as whether or not I’m a real Marine. No real discussion on the topic or the points being made. Just to you, that anybody who disagrees with you or challenges you couldn’t possibly be something that you normally associate with patriotism/Americana/toughness . . . you live with a very perverse view of these things and anything that isn’t in line with that preexisting viewpoint, you attack.

  • mrbillybob

    Why do we have gun free zones? Have you ever heard of some nut job going to a gun show and start shooting up the place? If you have a CWP why shouldn’t you be able to take your gun anywhere, because the bad guys always will.

  • CCowardly LLion

    Stifle thyself.
    *joking*

  • Brent Busch

    No, you are wrong. I lived in Oregon, had a CHL and carried on several campuses. All you have to do is ask the state’s most knowledgeable person on Oregon CHL, Kevin Starret of OFF.

  • Shears-of-Atropos

    From the liberals’ refusal to see the truth of the “gun control” issue, I can only suggest that there is a special chromosome or something in their makeup that embeds in their minds a death wish. That being so, I suggest that liberals buy airline tickets to Chicago, where they have an express line for people like that.

  • Glenn_in_IL

    Yup, that’s how it works here in IL (tho it can vary from state to state).

  • Brent Busch

    Clearly you are clueless and never lived in Oregon and had a valid CHL. I have. Read, ignoramus: http://www.oregonfirearms.org/chl-central/prohibited-places

  • Cugger

    Uh, you’d better read up. Ignorance is not a defense in a court of law.

  • JEFFofTX

    Did the perpetrator not read the “Gun Free Zone Sign”!?! Was it posted properly?

  • SaveOurNation

    HIGH SCHOOL — 1957 vs. 2015

    Scenario 1:
    Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck’s gun rack.
    1957 – Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack’s shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
    2013 – School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

    Scenario 2:
    Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
    1957 – Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
    2013 – Police called and SWAT team arrives — they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it . .

    Scenario 3:
    Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.
    1957 – Jeffrey sent to the Principal’s office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
    2013 – Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The family gets extra money (SSI) from the government because Jeffrey has a disability.

    Scenario 4:
    Billy breaks a window in his neighbor’s car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
    1957 – Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.
    2013 – Billy’s dad is arrested for child abuse, Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy’s sister that she remembers being abused (spanked) herself and their dad goes to prison.
    Billy’s mom has an affair with the psychologist.

    Scenario 5:
    Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
    1957 – Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.
    2013 – The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.

    Scenario 6:
    Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.
    1957 – Ants die.
    2013 – ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents – and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated.
    Johnny’s dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

    Scenario 7:
    Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
    1957 – In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
    2013- Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

    This should show how stupid we have become!

  • Dana King

    If those cops don’t have a warrant they shouldn’t be searching the backpack’s or those students. We don’t live in a police state. I guess we do.

  • TinStarred

    …….really……………….

  • What part of “Gun Free Zone” did this perp not get? Obviously a public skool gradiate.

  • Which youtube chanel, im usually on there on Ruptly tv
    which is a livestream channel.

  • Tommy boy

    “Gun Free Zones” = Mass Murder opportunities for the Criminals. It increases the chances that these horrible events will continue on a regular basis. The murderer sees the weakness with the situation and calculates that he or she will be the only one carrying a gun and thus be able to carry out the executions without risk of someone firing back.

  • angryguy77

    actually, it was you who brought up whether or not we would believe you were a marine.

    I’m starting to question if you’re stable enough to own a weapon….

  • Brent Busch

    I have read up. I lived in Oregon and had a valid CHL. I also read the Understanding Oregon Gun Laws by Kevin Starret, founder of Oregon Firearms Federation. I also took concealed carry classes from the Clackamas Training Center.

    http://www.oregonfirearms.org/chl-central/prohibited-places

  • CCowardly LLion

    watch?v=HKl5LuHCtNk

    Free Radio Revolution ULTIMATE!

  • Reason And Believing

    The creators of these gun free zones need to be charged with accessory to murder.
    They causes these deaths , They are personally responsible for all of it.

    All Americans should be angry that these gun free zones were put in place , caused all these deaths and continue to put so many innocent law abiding people at risk.

    It’s time to rise up against the people who put these gun free zones into place. They need to be held accountable

  • Brent Busch

    You’re the ignorant ass that’s unfamiliar with Oregon firearms laws and the ORS. http://www.oregonfirearms.org/chl-central/prohibited-places

  • Post of the millennium!

    1978. 30.06 rifle in trunk. Elk hunting season. I walk out of school early, VP asks me where I am going. I tell him elk hunting. He asks if I have all of my gear ready. I say yes. He wishes me good luck.

  • Brent Busch

    That’s not how it works in Oregon!

  • Cugger

    If that is truly the case (I read your link), Oregon is the most screwed up state in the union. Whatever you do, DO NOT TRY THIS in Idaho, Washington, Nevada, Arizona, or any federal buildings in Oregon or any other state.

  • Ok thanks. Ill head over to Youtube now.

  • Blah

    Remember, it is these brilliant people teaching our kids how to be better peple…

  • olddog

    I lived there in 05′-06′..ORE-GONE is the biggest collection of BRAIN (D)EAD LIEberal MORONS on EARTH..The entire state has the intellect of a GD TREE STUMP. The pig pen has been in (D)em-wit control for 40 years and is a (D)ysfunctional UTOPIAN MESS!!!! BTW..Roseburg has an unemployment rate of 25%..Therefore everybody lives off their COLLEGE LOANS.

  • SaveOurNation

    Sad thing is; it’s all true…..

  • Retired Marine

    Ok, so your game is to simply just state that either A) someone is a liar, or that B) they must have googled an answer since it is correct. Wow . . . you’re such a great debater. I understand ballistics. I understand the appeal of the .300 BLK round, I understand how an piston upper with adjustment on metering the gas works. Frankly you will never be convinced. I won’t lose any sleep over it. I pity you guys more than anything, seeing everything as a life and death battle between liberals and conservatives.

  • motnosnarblug

    I know and have known many former and active duty marines. Haven’t met a liberal one yet. My son’s an Air Force pilot and I haven’t met any of them who are liberal, either.

  • gman

    Get out the playbook
    1) Mass shooting in a gun free zone
    2) Many dead, many wounded
    3) Shooter neutralized or shot by cops who took way too long to get there
    4) Shooter was using a weapon with high capacity magazine
    5) Within 24 hrs calls for more gun control in a heavily gun controlled state.
    6) Much handwringing by grandstanding liberals.
    7) Legislation banning ammo purchases without a permit and AR-15 gun sales proposed along with at least 6 more useless pieces of legislation.
    8) Oregon legislature settles on a ban on high capacity magazines and pats themselves on their backs for a job well done.
    9) Everyone goes back to sleep until the next mass shooting………in a gun free zone.

  • Tommy boy

    Doesn’t even make the main news anymore. It’s been a War Zone for years now so it’s just a part of life in Chicago. Sad.

  • CCowardly LLion

    I’ve never listened to this guy before, just searched after
    the shooting and listening to him.

  • Brent Busch

    Ignorant crybaby.

  • [email protected]+y

    I agree that it is probably unlikey that anyone was legally carrying at the school, but they could have.

  • TinStarred

    ….with that line of logic perhaps you should give up your automobile to curb highway deaths, or your steak knives to reduce stabbings. Faulty logic.

  • Cugger

    Of course don’t even think about carrying in Commiefornia.

  • Brent Busch

    It is the case. Read the ORS for yourself, specifically 166.370(3)(d).

    http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/166.370

  • Glenn_in_IL

    I think I was editing my comment at the same time you were posting your reply.

    Very surprising to see that in OR, tho. I went to grad school out there years ago and couldn’t get out fast enough after graduation. Pretty country but WAY to many effing libbies. The near-constant rain sucked too 🙂

  • Nonya Busness

    no your absoutly correct it was not the sign that killed those people
    it was the PERSON HOLDING THE GUN not the gun and his total disregard for the Posted sign but you gun ban idiots don’t equate that the gun cant shoot its self..

  • Rowwdy Colt

    Another BS prop job for gun control.

  • Moocher his tranny wife needs to take a dump SOMEWHERE!

  • olddog

    well I lived in Roseburg and still live in (D)eliverance 2.0 on the coast..The fkg state is a UTOPIAN (D)em-wit PIG PEN and ALL is self-induced 1930s (D)epression era mentality. Absolutely the biggest collection on MORONS on the planet. And that’s after having lived 65 years in Kalifornica..The whole LEFT COAST is STONED ON STUPID!!!

  • Cugger

    Amazing. I always thought Oregon was weird, but this tops it.

  • Geno

    Brilliant

  • TinStarred

    …….more faulty logic ……if guns don’t save lives as you stated, how can they be responsible for taking them? Why aren’t people responsible for taking lives if they’re responsible for saving them?

  • FreedomFan

    We need to ban all guns to make it safer…for Democrats to kill us.

  • toro95037

    In the popular movie culture of the past few decades there has been an
    evil villain who killed countless others. He came from a broken family
    and watched helplessly as his mother died. He turned his grief into
    revenge and started following “evil” cult teachings. At the climax of
    his youth he turned away from everything good and embraced these dark ways. The orders were given, the orders were followed. He murdered
    countless children in their sanctuary (to keep the movie rated PG, the
    atrocity was committed off camera).

    To this day I have never heard anyone blame the lightsaber.

  • Retired Marine

    Oh, is that the first question you ask someone when meeting them? “Hi, I’m a Joe, would you classify yourself as a liberal or a conservative?” . . . But yeah you’re right, you probably haven’t meet someone from the Central African Republic, but it doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Per usual, you guys like to stay in our information bubbles and only associate with people who think like you. Military Times did a survey a few years back breaking down voting by branch and officer v enlisted. It proves quite clearly that all service members don’t take their instructions from Levin and Rush.

  • fail4sure

    Can’t say they were asking for it, but they kinda were.

    I’d guess that other such schools will suffer the same fate, too.

    Parents, please send your kids to schools where students can protect themselves. Stay clear of liberal anything.

  • Brent Busch

    And also read ORS 166.360 (4) for what constitutes a “public” building. Basically anything that gets tax money is a “public” building under ORS. The liberals constantly try to get it changed but thankfully Kevin Starrett and OFF do a great job protecting gunowner’s rights.

  • pslinger

    Gun free zone = no one is allowed to defend themselves.

  • Nonya Busness

    sorry please explain your logic there
    your statement makes no sense at all the above only has murder states for 2 areas one has strict gun control and no legal means to acquire guns locally and the other that has a higher population and over a thousand places t get guns and in fact has more legal guns in the open public and has 1/8 the homicides as the gun restrictive area..
    so your way off base there skippy

  • olddog

    65 years in Kalifornica and 3 years in ORE-GONE..including Washed-up-ington, the LEFT COAST is TOAST..Total (D)em-wit SOCIALIST CONTROLLED..Absolutely (D)ysfuncntional and (D)elirium runs wild on METH…..

  • Liberal solution in a shooting? Run away or hide. Conservative solution. Draw and drop the varmint.

  • fail4sure

    Sweet, spot-on response.

    Another idea is to make the Gun Free Zone sign BIGGER. Maybe the killer didn’t see it?

  • gseattle

    Theory about shootings such as Umpqua:
    a) These people are tormented by parasites in the brain such as Toxoplasma.
    b) Antidepressants unknowingly keep them at bay.
    c) The person suddenly stops taking those and then the parasites run wild, eating brain chemicals and poop toxins, while the negativity that was held back by the antidepressant drugs also comes flooding forth in rage.
    d) Victim is driven nutz having no idea what’s wrong, believes other people are to blame.

    Freeze all dead perpetrator brains and organs to be tested for parasites as our methods improve.

  • olddog

    bingo..absolutely SPOT ON..The entire state has the intellect and work ethic of a GD ROCK!!!

  • certbobdobbs .

    $ 100 says the shooter was a liberal on medication.

  • Nonya Busness

    again your numbers don’t make sense skippy
    more guns in Houston than in Chicago and there is 1/8 the deaths
    your correlations don’t add up
    go back to school and get a real education ..

  • O Manning

    What kind of clueless fool are you? In your own statement, you argue to blame not the inanimate object (the sign). Let me guess…you’re going to blame the gun (another inanimate object), instead.

  • motnosnarblug

    You are correct, I don’t believe you, even if you did look up adjustable gas blocks. Your attitude, as of your first post, showed you were looking for a fight so don’t complain when you get one.

    As for the subject at hand;

    1. Gun free zones are the scene of mass shootings because the assailant knows that he can go about his business unopposed.
    2. Background checks are good and I believe in them but they will never make an appreciable impact on this type of incident.
    3. As long as the mentally ill are allowed to roam free as id their “right,” they will be involved in criminal incidents wildly out of proportion to their numerical representation in the general population.
    4. We have tens of thousands of gun laws and this tragic incident still happened. You libs seem to thing that one or maybe more good laws will cure the problem when it is painfully obvious it will not. However, I’m certain you have no problem with restricting firearm ownership for the sane and law-abiding majority.
    5. I care as little about your beliefs as you do about mine. I should have said this first ans simply skipped one through four.

    God Bless You, my friend.

  • Peter Quinn

    Totally wrong…but hey, keep drinking the kool-aid…

  • Carolingian

    Time for our once a month fake shooting while the world goes up in flames and they continue to chop up infants for resale. It’s fake distraction day.

  • TinStarred

    …………your point, not mine…………….your faulty logic, not mine………….

    Maybe logic will work, but I doubt it………
    “To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and
    law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own
    conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the
    law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the
    lawless will allow… For society does not control crime, ever, by
    forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected
    behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals
    to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding.” Jeff Snyder

  • FYI

    This guy came here last week iirc trolling a different thread, (Retired Marine) angry at God and his fellow man. Intentionally votes to split the exec and leg branches between the parties (so he says, while railing against Rs), hates Trump, couldn’t care less about Benghazi or Sgt Tahmoressi, yada yada.

  • dave0987

    Yes people with guns, libtroll.

  • Meathead Rob Lowe ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    In an Oregon Court of Appeals case (2011), three judges concluded that Oregon public colleges and universities no longer have authority to ban weapons on the physical grounds of a campus. Each school does however, have discretion as to whether to permit concealed handguns inside buildings, dormitories, event centers, and classrooms. Private colleges and universities may still prohibit weapons throughout the entire campus including grounds.

    On March, 2, 2012, the Oregon Higher Education Board voted unanimously to ban weapons in all seven state colleges and universities.

    So while a CCP in Oregon could be on the public campus grounds with a concealed gun they cannot enter any buildings on said campus. Since 99.9% of people on any college campus enter buildings it is effectively a gun free zone.

  • dave0987

    If you keep that kind of factual logic up, he’s going to start calling you names any moment now.

  • Cletus B Neckbeard

    What am I?! An ATM?! :o)

  • That gun free campus sure did protect those students. Weren’t there enough gun free zone signs to have stopped this gunman?

  • Lee Jan

    On the very day that the killers of Brian Terry have been found guilty. This killing was the direct result of Holder delivering untold numbers of weapons to the drug cartels on the Mexican border.

  • Liberty First

    Liberals are mentally challenged.

  • wawawa

    Same rants as last week. “Drudgites” “information bubble” antiTrump, antiChristian, blah, blah.

  • Just_a_Guy_Named_Joe

    Why is everyone so surprised at this? This campus was clearly designated as a “No Self Defense Allowed Zone.”

    Isn’t that what that sign means? The one with the red line slashed through the picture of a gun?

  • Retired Marine

    So anytime someone breaks up your circle jerk going on in the comments section, it’s trolling? Actually I’m quite down the middle. Look at the statistical analysis of the Republican party since 1980 (538,etc). It’s pulled very much to the right. I’m left in the middle between you guys and the hippies. And yes, I do vote for split government because I don’t trust either of you with having too much control.

  • Lee Jan

    The scourge that has overtaken Chicago is Obama’s legacy. He and Bill Ayers used the millions of dollars from the Annenberg Challenge for community agitating. This is the real Chicago legacy of O.

  • Peter Quinn

    Obama land…

  • Just_a_Guy_Named_Joe

    You have to read the fine print. Under the picture it reads, “In the event of an emergency, please flail your arms over your head and run away, preferably in a straight line, screaming like a banshee.”

  • Kevin J Lankford

    Believe it or, NOT……

  • Zoroaster

    Some strange things with this possible shooting. The Aerial view show all the vehicles in the parking lot all first row cars facing out So all backed in to lot spaces , not likely. Second row of cars all facing in all facing the back of first row cars, so all the second row puled in nose first, but the first row all backed in, Strange set like staged parking. False flag not sure but need to look for hiring of crises actors and for a training exercise in this area that fits reported events.

  • dave0987

    Lol, great stuff isn’t it? Yet these libs are so sure of themselves.

    They have so much confidence in their high school and college programming they received into their oatmeal mush brains.

  • Retired Marine

    You see, if you would have started with this reply in the beginning it could have been a reasonable conversation, but sadly you and your ilk view anyone advocating having a discussion as “looking for a fight.” This highlights my other point perfectly . . . to you guys, everything is a battle between Rs and Ds or the left and the right, and frankly it’s people like you and your reflection on the left that is the problem with this country and the current level of discourse in politics.

  • oldvlc

    Probably had signs up everywhere inviting armed assassins to open fire.

  • The. Horror.

  • illnino4545

    You completely missed the point kiddo. He is talking about gun free zones.

  • Sign on Liberal Campus:

    “When in danger,
    When in doubt,
    Run in circles,
    Scream and shout.”

  • SandyToesSC

    News just said that gunman told people to ” state their religion ” before he shot them….Religion of Peace?

  • Retired Marine

    Makes you uncomfortable doesn’t it? But guess what, none of those would make me a liberal and that’s my entire point that you guys fail to grasp time after time.

  • angryguy77

    T/F Obama has done a great job.

  • freedom74

    This whole thing is sailing right over your head isn’t it? Don’t have room in your head for any logic beyond LGBT rights and baby killing, eh?

  • juandos

    Is there any kind of silver lining in this story at all other than there are just a few less Shrillary & Bernie supporters stalking the planet?

    Will liberals ever learn?

  • freedom74

    You have a very low I.Q., I can tell. Not allowing people to have defensive weaponry caused the deaths. Own it libturd.

  • SandyToesSC

    “Joe Olson, former president of the college, told The Associated Press the school has only one security officer on duty at a time, and that person isn’t armed ” http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2015/10/01/oregon-community-college-shooting/.

  • awfulorv

    I do know that these shootings begin when a gunman arrives at a place, which they know to be gun free, and continues until someone with another gun, a good gun arrives, and takes him out.
    BTW, it has been mentioned that he asked about the religion of the victims.
    So who is it that kills in the name of religion? The Muslims, that’s who.

  • freedom74

    I think wet sidewalks cause rain. Everywhere I have seen rain, there are wet sidewalks, so they must be the culprit.

  • IowaSparrow

    If this wasn’t a gun free zone, the outcome could have been different. Having to arm ourselves isn’t ideal but we don’t live in a ideal world either. Taking away guns equals disaster but I’m sure they will use this for their agenda. The nutjobs/mk-ultras always end up having them and we don’t??? Bad deal there. That aside, thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and community members.

  • Mike in Illinois

    They never like to admit that the ones they think are tasked with addressing the lawbreakers – umm- show up with GUNS!

  • Mike in Illinois

    Proves your point eh?

    Do you present the notion that you can “uninvent” guns?
    Or the idea you can ban them all?
    Confiscate them all?

    Your platitude falls under its own weight.

  • IowaSparrow

    One thing I just can’t quite shake, is how scripted these events seem..same MO, every time.

  • freedom74

    That is a lie. Complete and total. been debunked repeatedly. There is no direct correlation between the ratio of legal guns and shootings, except a provable NEGATIVE correlation. We don’t have to argue with propaganda, because it is propaganda, you are just too stupid to do anything but parrot disproved propaganda..

  • CCowardly LLion

    Not sure if this chat channel is the dude’s post the night
    before the shooting, but the fcktards in there are actually encouraging the
    idiot to kill people. I hope they get
    what they deserve.

  • THIS JUST IN!
    Suspect likely a Muslim allowed to immigrate to USA by Obama.

  • You successfully defeated yourself, unless you are one of those trollbots the lib baggers use on comment boards.

  • Mike in Illinois

    You made a heck of a jump there, duc.
    Fir your statement to be true, every time I get another gun, there should be another death. Yet that isn’t the case. SO why did your logic fail that test?

  • Larry Culpepper

    I feel safer knowing Obama is fighting for tranny restrooms.

  • Mike in Illinois

    The demand facilitated their deaths, by infringing upon their inalienable right.

    What does “inalienable” mean giz?

  • JasonHathaway

    That’s a lot of derp
    derp.

    Gun free campus, bad guy ignores that like normal, law abiding citizens can’t defend them selves. The security guard was not armed. Multiple fatalities after alert before more men with guns arrive to save everyone. Maybe one day I will save you, cause you obviously can’t protect your self. Good luck.

  • CNeder

    These cases prove the need for campus carry by law abiding US citizens.

  • Vitonio

    Fortunately no one was armed.

  • slobotnavich

    I can scarcely imagine what our Founders would think were they able to see what a bunch of risk-averse snivelers this nation has become, neurotically obsessing over the infinitesimally tiny risk of being “killed by a gun.” At the same time we display highly irrational behavior in other ways; allowing dangerously incompetent drivers to operate motor vehicles after demonstrating their proficiency by driving around an empty parking lot, doing a K-turn, and managing to pull into a parking spot. And being grossly overweight and unhealthy in the bargain. They should re-label “Gun Free Zone” areas as “Defenseless People Zones.” The violent criminal class certainly would appreciate such an initiative.

  • Mike in Illinois

    LOL @ shep smith as he says “how many armed guards is it gonna take to solve this?”

    Hey Shep, you abject idiot – the answer is EVERYONE! Well, at least those who choose to be armed – as is their right!

    Shep is a “only ones” kinda fella. He disregards the right to bear arms entirely.

  • spoolie254

    It’s high time we get the guns out of schools and theaters and put them back where they belong. In the post office.

  • JasonHathaway

    At least he has a penis, your vaginas is too sandy.

  • JasonHathaway

    At least he has a penis, your vaginas is too sandy.

  • mrbillybob

    This says it all, one of the best statements I’ve ever seen concerning our misguided gun laws. We don’t trust students with a CWP to carry, but we trust criminals to obey the law.

  • maxovrdriv

    Hey california tried to keep even off duty cops from bringing their guns on campus. Bet they all wish there would have been one of those evil guys in the classroom though, What to do you think. Hopefully when they shot the SOB he is like paralyzed or something so that he can live the rest of his days in total agony and pain.

  • Julian Fries

    If this story keeps changing over the next few days and is littered with inconsistencies and ultimately Crisis Actors on TV calling for more control over evil guns, you’ll know it’s a planned event. It’ll be interesting to see who their perp is, his psych history, etc. Since his demonization campaign didn’t immediately flood the airwaves, along with handy photos of him posing with firearms on instagram, this one may actually be real. We shall see

  • Aldo Elmnight

    The carry of weapons is allowed on Oregon campuses. That is why the policy references “expressly authorized by law”. Apparently no one chose to exercise this right today.

  • Aldo Elmnight

    The carry of weapons is allowed on Oregon campuses. That is why the policy references “expressly authorized by law”. Apparently no one chose to exercise this right today..

  • maxovrdriv

    To bad, in Kennesaw GA when the required gun ownership in every house we all know what happened to the crime rate, right? Murders tripled, crime quadrupled. Oh wait, no sorry, that is chicago that bans guns. In Kennesaw, crime plunged 89%. Think in Switzerland it is still required to own a gun in every house. And my oh my, just how do they control themselves.

  • pickle

    The last thing that went through the peoples minds that got shoot. “gee I wish I had a gun to defend myself”. Might even go for some of those that saw people get shot.

  • slobotnavich

    “Ah cain’t b’lieve dis. Dis s’posed to be a gun-free zone, an’ I pulled mah blade an’ dis honkey mo’fo’ shot mah ass! Ah gwine sue!”

  • konc2

    Gun Free Zone, liberalism is truly a mental illness, that costs the lives of many inncoent people in their world of rainbows, unicorns and Barak The Magic Negro.

  • Nell

    Great point–It’s the liberal version of a trickle-down theory. Those who can afford weapons and haven’t disqualified themselves with law-breaking, buy so many guns that they can’t even hold /protect them all, so passing criminals can snatch up the overflow.

  • Donna Gay

    Gun control logic is that people will “abide” by that ruling. No – the reason why so many of these delusional POSs go to a gun-free zone is to KILL AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE – before they are killed – in order to attain their demented “sense of glory” in the heinous act.

    IF the place might possibly HAVE guns possessed by responsible citizens, then his BODY COUNT would not be what he wants and he’ll go elsewhere…

    What needs to be controlled is the use of big pharma drugs used by so many of these young gunmen. THAT’s hardly ever mentioned in the aftermath reporting of these horrible events. Not good to shine a light on the FDA and other fed agencies allowing crony capitalism to get in the way of safety.

  • Dancquill

    These “Gun Free Zone” signs… Will they be union built and Davis Bacon compliant? There’s an election coming you know and the unions could really use the extra dough for Hillary’s and Sander’s campaigns. They will extend this “gun free zone” Nation-Wide”!!

  • NormB

    Gun free zones. Facilitating the murder of Americans a dozen (or so) at a time.

  • JJTX

    STOP

    ELECTING

    DEMOCRATS

    ———oh, wait, too late. Its oregon. Idiots.

  • roughman

    Just preempting the storm a-coming…

  • To a ‘safe zone’ where it’s safe. Well for one sure thing; gun control worked on that campus since nobody had a gun except the shooter.

  • Oboy_must_go

    Gee maybe they should start teaching morals and respect for others starting in grade school again.

  • Oboy_must_go

    Liberal policies led to this. Thats a fact Jack!

  • Fifty Ville

    Sending infidels to Allah, one community college at a time.

  • konc2

    Schooled again dumbass.

  • Tattooed

    Shooter was a Muslim. Welcome to the world that liberalism has built.

  • konc2

    ducatination=useful idiot, go away dumbo, you are simply too stupid to have a conversation with.

  • jhpoland

    The Liberals will say it was a Slight Oversight because they just FORGOT to add ‘Ambush Free Zone’ , ‘Shooting Free Zone’ , Injury Free Zone’ , and possibly ‘Germ Free Zone’ to make the Area a Complete ‘Danger Proof Zone’..

  • Oboy_must_go

    Really?

  • Tattooed

    Actually the campus is a gun free zone.

  • Tattooed

    Yup.

  • MohammedTheTeddyBear

    This just in: an emergency #BlackLivesMatter protest reacted to the shooter and ensured the shooter was ashamed enough to acknowledge the many “Gun-free Zone” signs in plain sight. Said the leader of said protest, Jerome Washington-0bama, “We charged the evil in our midst just like the Peace Protestors who freed the Jews from Nazi death-camps during WWII, simply by their slogans of love.”

  • fred smith

    I’m not sure if everyone here is really this stupid, but it isn’t a gun free zone:

    “Students who have proper paperwork are allowed to carry guns on campus. Oregon is one of seven states where lawmakers have said people with concealed weapons permits must be allowed to bring concealed weapons onto campus.”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2015/10/where_is_roseburg_oregon_what.html#incart_big-photo

  • Tattooed

    It’s time to remove Kabab.

  • Hy Feiber

    Thanks, but it’s not “we,” it’s “they.”

  • konc2

    Dougie, you mad bro, you mad? You can’t help it that your mommy and daddy are liberal sheep and won’t let you have a gun, except that little bitty one in your pants. Now go away little boy, you are irrelevant.

  • Wouldn’t be the first time I made a mistake. Tell me, what did you get out of Mike’s comment? I re-read his post and he seems to support gun rights and such, much like myself. Did I miss something?

  • Mike

    Strip people of their right to bear arms and they immediately become perfect targets for psychos.

    But now… we know Obama will sign an imperial edict with his magic pen to try and strip of us of those rights even further.

  • Realist

    News Flash:
    I just read that the Unions might support TRUMP.

    Yes, you read that right. I will believe it when I see it but…

  • fred smith

    “Students who have proper paperwork are allowed to carry guns on campus. Oregon is one of seven states where lawmakers have said people with concealed weapons permits must be allowed to bring concealed weapons onto campus.”

    Stop listening to people who keep making things up.

  • Joe in OH

    Gotta’ wonder, suppose one of the dead students had violated the gun free zone and pulled out his or her concealed carry to take care of this terrorist right after the first kill. The Oregon liberals would probably prosecute him and say the situation could have been handled in a more civilized manner. Liberals are destroying this once great land.

  • Mike

    Actually, no. Proper paper work only allows them to be stored in a security facility on campus.

  • Pouncekitty

    The States didn’t step up. The States! The Liberals in the STATES wouldn’t pick up the tab, but Obama slams the States with new taxes, new regulations, new onerous rules every day AND THEY OBEY! So you want to blame Reagan? Not so fast. Most mental institutions are State-Run. Do some research. But thanks for voting for Reagan. At least you helped our country that way.

  • fred smith

    Again:

    “Students who have proper paperwork are allowed to carry guns on campus. Oregon is one of seven states where lawmakers have said people with concealed weapons permits must be allowed to bring concealed weapons onto campus.”

  • Joe in OH

    Wrong bright eyes. Read the school policy.

  • Buzz

    So where are the black lives matter morons?

  • Buzz

    Gun Free Campus…guess the shooter didn’t get the memo. One unarmed security guard, now that really helped.

  • Joe in OH

    Unions should have abandoned Democrats right after Clinton signed NAFTA and did away with human rights tests for annually renewing “most favored nation” status for China. Now the union darling Obama is giving us the TPP Trans Pacific Partnership.

  • Suprememayo

    Nope, try again.

  • Suprememayo

    Read the policy, they cannot carry guns on campus. Enough with your liberal spin.

  • Dancquill

    No such luck.. Hillary lost one union’s support for not supporting the Keystone pipeline. They still have Biden or Hillary could make a back room deal with the union to deceive her duped constituents.

  • Buzz

    If it were the guns that kill people no one would get out of a gun show alive.

  • Suprememayo

    I’m not sure if you are a liberal moron, or simply a liar. It is a gun free zone. They must store their weapons in a security facility.

  • zippiest

    More death from those that love death, the democratic party.
    Way to go liberals!

  • ScottMc76

    NBC News recently cited a study from the journal “Injury Prevention” that estimates that approximately 1 in 3 Americans are gun owners. This is based primarily on a census of those who admit to owning guns. Nevertheless, using this conservative estimate, that puts the number of US gun owners at approximately 107 million. Since 2006, there have been 218 gun-related mass killings.

    That means that the percentage of US gun owners that have committed a gun-related mass killing is approximately 0.0002%.

    Yep. Sounds like an epidemic to me.

  • BC

    that’s exactly why there was so much carnage!
    Gun free zone!
    Nobody was able to shoot back immediately to kill the kook.
    had to wait for the cops which probably cost 10 of the 13 lives

  • Patty

    Oregon Shooter Said Planning Something On 4 Chan Yesterday, Encouraged To Do It By People On Forum

    #Oregon Shooter this morning, online chatting about what he was about to do before he did it >> https://t.co/BKMgsWcBY8

    — JΞSTΞR ✪ ΔCTUAL³³º¹ (@th3j35t3r) October 1, 2015

  • oldaarpy

    That’s what I read also!

  • dachshundsrule

    IDK, the warning signs in the desert of Arizona and New Mexico are also written in Chinese–wonder why?

  • Roger in Republic

    This just in. The gunman has been identified as “Just some Asshole”. Why make these sick losers famous? They should be buried in an unmarked pit and their name erased from history.

  • oldaarpy

    Meeting with Soros and planning the next riot!

  • Alan Henry

    I only ask because Muslims are responsible for 99% of the killings in the world.

  • Maindrian Pace

    Just reported, the gunman asked students to state their religion, and then started shooting. We ALL know where this is going.

  • mikekelley10

    Yes, we do, and watch the Democrat media dance around the truth. Allah ahkbar!

  • mikekelley10

    I think the Teamsters are hedging, but they have often supported Republicans over the years. The AFL-CIO and all the other commie unions will be for whoever the Democrats nominate.

  • Realist

    If i remember correctly, they also have to demonstrate proficiency yearly.

  • mikekelley10

    If this mass killing is an act of Muslim terrorism, look for the story to go away very soon. If is some “lone wolf” white guy, it will be pushed for weeks as an excuse to take guns away from those who didn’t do it.

  • Alan Henry

    It has just been confirmed that the shooter was a Muslim who was trying to kill as many Christians as he possibly could.

  • DDAAMM

    Illinois is more succesful with adding people to the food stamp program than adding jobs.

  • DDAAMM

    So not workplace but school campus violence?

  • Dancquill

    Reagan did get some union support but a lot of it was rank and file patriotism based rather than special favors they seem to be seeking at the top of their organization’s leadership.

  • Joe in OH

    And again: read the SCHOOL policy. Oregon is not the issue at the moment although I have to wonder what is entailed to make sure “der paperwork is in order.”

  • Ganesha_akbar

    source?

  • jkkl

    look in the mirror for filth

  • nicolasofcusa

    It’s not a “tragedy”; it’s a horrible crime.

    Politicians who claim to be “heartbroken” are not; they did not know the victims or their families.

    Politicians who claim that their thoughts are with the families are lying; they are only trying to figure out what to say to the press.

    Most of the politicians claiming that their prayers are going out to the victims are lying, because they don’t pray and because prayers go out to God, not to people, especially dead people.

  • Joe in OH

    And again: read the SCHOOL policy. Oregon is not the issue at the moment although I have to wonder what is entailed to make sure “der paperverk ist in order.”

  • Batterup

    “The gunman who opened fire at Umpqua Community College in Oregon asked victims to state their religion before opening fire, according to multiple reports. An 18-year-old student told the News-Review newspaper that the gunman, after shooting her teacher in the head through a window, told people to get on the ground. He then told people to stand up and state their religion before opening fire. Twitter user @BodhiLooney, who said her grandma was at the school, said the shooter asked people if they were Christian. “If they said yes, then they were shot in the head,” she wrote. “If they said no, or didn’t answer, they were shot in the legs.”

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/01/oregon-community-college-shooting-pre-planned-act-of-jihad-warning-posted-yesterday/

  • Ganesha_akbar

    The proper word that elites refuse to utter is “atrocity.” They want to pretend its all a Greek theater and all the world a stage. “Tragedy” peddlers are the neo-banality of evil.

  • TinStarred

    ….when you have a judicial system and a government that emboldens and empowers criminals, this is pretty much the outcome that’s expected, but it’s so much easier to blame an inanimate object for the crime rather than the criminal. That’s liberal logic, …..go figure. The Boston Marathon tragedy for example, ….no one blamed the bomb; drunken driving deaths, ….no one blames the car. To do so would be stupid, but the same logic does not apply to guns. Guns are just tools, no more dangerous or helpful than the person wielding it. Most of the misinformation out there is politically generated and driven by ignorance, and there sure is no lack of that.

  • bobbyd118

    why would any parent ever send their child to a Gun Free College?

  • mikekelley10

    I am a Steelworker. Our union bosses would never, ever give a dime to a Republican. I bet they think commie Bernie Sanders is the bee’s knees.

  • riteaidbob

    More laws! More gun free zones! Take the guns from the victims and innocent and we shall ALL BE SAFE! Someone tell the gas bag in WH to STFU!

  • bobbyd118

    but what if the shooter went to public school and graduated without learning how to read ?

  • Don

    Ban Gun Free Zones NOW!!!

  • libscum

    Worthless POS Obama and the Democrats celebrate the murder of 13 people.
    Disgusting pig of a man. An armed security guard or teacher or student
    could have stopped it instead of waiting for some lame “first
    responders” to finish their coffee.

  • riteaidbob

    MFing POS…the bodies are not even cold and the POS is already calling to take your guns and disarm you. All these events take place in IDIOTIC gun free zones and his solution is to take the guns away from those who want/need to arm/protect themselves. OMG he just equated guns to seat belts!

  • mikekelley10

    It’s typical left-wing stupidity. The smart play would be to advertise your university as supportive of concealed carry and even have some classes in tactical use of firearms. None of these psycho nutbags are looking for a fair gunfight, so you’d be the safest college around. This will never happen, of course, because it wouldn’t advance the “Progressive” agenda. The last thing most college bureaucrats care about is their students’ safety.

  • MsFreedomWatch

    Well G Man, obviously there is a Confederate flag SOMEWHERE on that campus…and THAT is the reason the shooter went insane. I blame the Republicans for not making the GFZ signs bigger, and removing all flags. You just watch on tonights news….its coming.

  • Patty

    Oregon Community College Shooting – Pre Planned Act of Jihad – Warning Posted Yesterday…

    Last night an anonymous poster on the Website 4Chan posted a
    warning of an intent to carry out an attack at a Northwest U.S.
    Community College (CACHE HERE). Today an attack was carried out:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/oregon-shooter-1.jpg?w=960&h=504

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/01/oregon-community-college-shooting-pre-planned-act-of-jihad-warning-posted-yesterday/

    Obama, pre planned act of Jihad. No amount of gun control on us great American Citizens could have stop this. Are you even ashamed that things have gone this far?

  • Dancquill

    Yes, from my acquaintance with union lawyers, they hate Republicans more than Satan hates God.

  • GenEarly

    Not to worry, Obamy has the solution………confiscate Your gun. Makes sense doesn’t it? Comrade.
    Welcome to the USSA!

  • maxovrdriv

    Yes usually at a local law enforcement range under their supervision and records checks are continually run to make sure they have not gotten in trouble. Like guys coming back from the service or former law enforcement would not be a great idea for starters. The bad guys will always get a gun or like in Japan recently a sword.

  • Wile E. Coli

    You should NEVER endanger people’s lives by declaring a GUN FREE ZONE without ANY way of enforcing it. In fact, it should be illegal to do so.

  • math-maker

    Oregon Public schools state they are gun free zones…They were taken to court because that conflicts with the law. The schools said they would still refuse to allow students to carry guns. So now they loudly tell students they cannot carry while putting the (unless subject to law) part in really small letters to avoid more lawsuits. They still threaten to expel you if they know you carry

  • Dale

    And Obama wants to import more muslims. Why import people who hate us?

  • dandeman

    What a shameful disgusting POS we have as President. The Community Organizer can KMA. The bodies are still warm and he can’t wait a day to get on his soapbox about gun control. Mr. Obama, you are a sick person and need help.

  • GenEarly

    obviously to kill you

  • user z

    The president went on the networks to feign outrage and try to rack up political points for gun grabbing laws for which HE CANNOT STATE WHICH ONE OR HOW ANY LAW COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS at the expense of victims who put their lives in danger by entering these soft target areas. Who ever put the no gun signs up on this campus has blood on their hands.
    “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun , is a good guy with a gun”.

    The president is a complete idiot to think otherwise, which he has demonstrated demonstratively over the past 6 years.

    DO NOT PATRONIZE BANKS, SCHOOLS, MOVIE THEATERS, OR BUSINESSES WITH GUN FREE SIGNS, THEY ARE DEATH TRAPS!!!

  • mikekelley10

    This sign in Chatanooga didn’t work:

    http://imgur.com/ktEYsTP

  • GenEarly

    You can delete “and need help”, unless it’s a firm hand up the steps to the gallows to hang for Treason.

  • Plumbbob Priscilla

    Forget gun-free zones. The USA needs to be a MUSLIM-FREE-ZONE.

  • James Edward

    The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.

    — James Earl Jones

  • mikekelley10

    Our monthly Steelworkers’ magazine reads like the old Socialist Workers’ Party handouts I used to see in Minnesota back in the day.

  • Plumbbob Priscilla

    Because Obama wants more people JUST LIKE HIM … MUSLIMS.

  • bobbyd118

    make sure they are Braille compliant…for the visually impaired shooter

  • Dolph C. Volker

    Idiot Liberal school, take the guns from law abiding citizens and invite the crazy mental ill criminals have them. That results in a massacre every time. Obama will undoubtedly spew his normal 2nd Amendment repeal retort. He loves it when these massacres happen.

  • lonestarlizard

    Must be Bush’s fault. Or the NRA. Or the Tea Party. Or the Republicans. Or Fox News. Or Rush LImbaugh. Or gun manufacturers. Or ammunition manufacturers. Or Conservatives. Or the Washington Times. Or Texans. Or Christians. Or high capacity magazines. Or anyone or anything except the idiots, losers, Marxist-democrats and lame street media morons that hate guns and everyone that owns one or wants one. Time for another glass of Kool-Aid to quench the Oblamer thirst!

  • ithakavi

    Ninety three percent (93%) of gun crimes are committed with illegal firearms. Remind me again how gun control laws reduce gun crime.

  • Timebomb

    Gun free zones are why mass killings are easy targets. One concealed carry weapon would have saved lives.

  • math-maker

    Oregon campuses have this weird gun policy. They lost a lawsuit about preventing concealed carry permit holders from being legally able to carry on campus. Their reaction was “tough, we still don’t want guns on campus so they put up gun free zone signs, tell the students they will be expelled for carrying even with a permit, but they include the “except according to law” in really small print so they can’t be sued again. The exact behavior of the school may vary but that is the behavior they seem to have settled on.

  • Plumbbob Priscilla

    Foxtrot Yankee, Obama, you treasonous lying Muslim POS.

  • imsosly

    Don’t bring logic and facts into a discussion with progressives. You know that’s not fair.

  • Timebomb

    You left off the drug companies whose prescription drugs the killer was taking.

  • Eric Arllen

    Gun Free Zone. Almost as dangerous a place to be as is to be a baby in a Liberal woman’s womb.

  • So Cal Guest

    Why are they with holding the dead perps name?

  • ithakavi

    If facts and logic meant something to them they wouldn’t be ‘progressives.’

  • imsosly

    If only the shooter knew that murder was illegal…

  • Hard Truth

    Clearly the school is at fault.
    The college, obviously, had an insufficient number of “Gun Free Zone” signs.

  • Timebomb

    That’s brutal!…..and true.

  • Geoffry K

    Scott Pelley on CBS News is repeating the Mommies and Everytown lie about “294 mass shootings in 274 days”.
    Yet he opened the broadcast saying this is the 5th mass shooting they opened the broadcast with since June. That is 1 a month. Why didn’t they report the other 289 according to him?

  • Senile Travel

    GUN FREE ZONE… Translation: “We want you to feel safe and free from violence while you’re on our campus”. Gunman sees, “Ducks in a swimming pool”. Why can’t liberal gun control folks get it?

  • Keys Man 70

    Maybe the “Gun Free Zone” signs should be bigger?

  • EbolaJenkins

    One woman tweeted that her grandmother was in the classroom and was forced to perform CPR on a friend, “but it was too late,” @BodhiLooney wrote.
    …. “The shooter was lining people up and asking if they were christian,” she wrote using the lower-case C. “If they said yes, then they were shot in the head. If they said no, or didn’t answer, they were shot in the legs…..

  • Dem-Spoiler

    Gun Free Zone signs are an invitation to would be mass murderers. Had they permitted conceal carry many of those lives could have been saved by someone with a gun.

  • THIS JUST IN!

    Shooter was a Muslim.

  • dandeman

    I recall stories that the original gun control laws were pushed by the Mafia to keep store owners from shooting the thugs that came in to get “protection money”. So who’s backing Obama to take the guns away from the people who want to protect themselves. This is all about money, so who’s going to get the “protection money” this time Obama?

  • James Edward

    Initially I read that and interpreted it to mean the same, but…
    Does Oregon law provide for open carry or concealed carry for its citizenry? IDK.

  • maineman11111

    sounds like a pothead

  • joe kulak

    The most dangerous place in America is a “gun free zone”.

  • TruthToBeTold

    Another “gun free zone” killing of innocent law abiding citizens that could have defended themselves if it wasn’t a false sense of security “gun free zone.”

    Thanks again to the naive manipulated progressive Democats.

  • James Edward

    Along that line:

    “…quemadmodum
    gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.” […a sword never kills
    anybody; it’s a tool in the killer’s hand.]


    (Lucius Annaeus) Seneca “the Younger” (ca. 4 BC-65 AD)

  • GenEarly
  • Dem-Spoiler

    Had someone had a gun, they wouldn’t have had to wait for God knows how long for the cops to arrive before taking him out. Many lives could have been saved. Get rid of gun free zones… problem solved Hussein O.

  • Jeff

    I need a keyboard with a sarcastic font…

  • pgroup

    Gun free zone = free fire killing zone

    Every student left alive should demand their money back unless the college immediately lifts the gun ban.

  • Landshark

    Liberalism strikes again..Flowers and chirping birds tryin to make a perfect world by removing all items of self defense leaving everybody sitting ducks waiting for slaughter by a homicidal maniac…Way to go libs..

  • Dem-Spoiler

    If the shooter was white, they would have released his name by now.

  • TexTopCat

    I want to see the parents and relatives of the innocent people killed sue the college for not allowing adults students, teachers and staff be armed. The college should have to pay damages for their bad policy that they knew was a bad policy.

  • BraveNewWhirled

    I’m taking the side of the bleeding hearts on this one: Let’s not use this horrendous event to advance our pet political agenda. I’m very curious about the anti-psychotic meds he was taking. (oops, that slipped out.)

  • Dem-Spoiler

    Probably a young jihadi. They released his age…20 yrs. old. Why not his name?

  • RDiablo

    Another fool who’s fallen for the gun free zone myth. Think before you post libscum.

  • Chinbato

    False Flag? Crisis actors? Obummer jumping on his anti-gun bandwagon for another tour of the US?

  • Landshark

    You are confusing a pet political agenda with common sense.

  • TexTopCat

    Yes, the killer is responsible, however, the killer would not have had the opportunity to kill as many without the failed gun control implemented by these liberal organizations.

  • MsFreedomWatch

    As a result of Common Core perhaps?

  • Dem-Spoiler

    The genius of Liberalism strikes again.

  • Sandy

    You meanafter a mass shooting at a school first responders actually bring victims out, and take them to hospitals? But at sandy hook NO kids were brought out of the school and a cop declared them all dead without allowing the paramedics into the school odd isnt it?

  • MsFreedomWatch

    Waaaaaaaaay too much logic here. Your post will soon be banned.

  • TomRay

    Those in charge of “Gun Free” establishments should be prepared to accept liability and be subject to lawsuits if they do not provide sufficient armed security.at such locations

  • Dem-Spoiler

    Note to Obama… Criminals don’t obey gun laws.

  • Kach

    And now we get to hear the pathetic ball-less obama go on and on about how its the guns fault that some mentaly ill libturd degenerate make a choice to kill. But keep on focusing on the piece of metal obama!

  • Dem-Spoiler

    If the shooter knows who has the guns he will just take them out first… That’s why they need conceal carry. That way the shooter won’t know who has a gun.

  • TexTopCat

    Sue this college out of existence.

  • TinStarred

    ……brilliant, ….logic has a long history. Unfortunately, in recent times and in many instances it has been replaced with “political correctness” which is the antithesis of logic.

  • Darkheart11

    I have been there.

    More than a little surprised one of the locals did not put that mad dog down.

  • tdrag

    Steve Hayes on FOX Special Report just reported 50 shootings in Chicongo this past weekend. Where, oh where is Obama’s outrage? It seems that every time this Turd’s failures are brought to light-Syria this time-there is a catastrophe at home to help him get the monkey off his back.

  • Joseph A. Loerzel

    I do – American Sniper.

  • mtim2474

    As a liberal, here’s my solution: Take all weapons from private citizens and sell them to the Islamic states. Use that money to make even bigger “gun free zone” signs, because obviously, the shooter didn’t see them.

  • tdrag

    All Swiss men between 18 and 50 are members of the military. They keep their ASSAULT RIFLES at home with 300 rounds of ammo and are required to shoot periodically to stay proficient. Shooting sports are very popular in Switzerland and crime is very low.

  • Jackazz Flatts

    this mass murder is compliments of Obama’s muslims

  • NoMoLies

    Sadly, this school was a “Gun Free Zone”. If this is an American we need to understand what the heck happened to make him resort to hurting innocent people. This sort of thing makes no sense to me. He could not have been in his right mind. My kids are in college and I can’t bear the thought of them being victims to some loser on Prozac. My kids have been well trained in self defense and have been shooting all types of guns since age 8. These kids deserve the right to defend themselves. They should not have to choose between their safety and a college education. I pray for the victims and their families tonight.

  • GRDNANGL172

    When are people going to figure out that criminals will simply break the law. The only people a gun free zone makes safer are the ones who will break the law and injure innocent people. Wake up people!

  • krazykyote202

    Maybe there should be a Murder Free Zone sign placed under the GFZ sign.

  • GRDNANGL172

    Absolutely right on!

  • boof

    Just try thinking RDiablo. Gun Free School Zone – why not just say “only defenseless sitting ducks beyond this point.” That’s no myth.

  • Carolingian

    WHY would anyone believe this nonsense?

  • Russel

    If the shooter asked them their religion, that goes a hell of a lot further than ‘ criminal ‘. Granted no facts are in yet, but let the media try and wad that into a conservative redneck Tea Party ” activist “.

  • TinStarred

    ……history has shown us that to take down a bad man with a gun you need a good man with a gun. Any other way, you court disaster. If you remove good men with guns from the equation, all you have left are bad men with guns, …..and you don’t have to be rocket scientist to figure out the result.

    Obviously, we’ve learned from Ferguson, Baltimore and other news that law enforcement can’t and won’t protect our property and livelihoods from feral humans, so I can only guess what our lives would be worth in a similar situation. From a civilian standpoint, we cannot and should not rely on government entities to protect us, ultimately we are responsible for our own safety and protection …………we have to be the good guys with guns. If we allow the left to castrate the Second Amendment, they will have made us all victims.

  • RestlessLegs

    All “gun-free zone” signs should be replaced with pictures of sitting ducks.

  • GRDNANGL172

    Oh I agree. The point stands however.

  • RDiablo

    YOU do the thinking boof – or at least don’t be a sheep. Read.

    1) a mere fraction of mass shootings are in gun free zones. 2) there is no evidence to date (that I am aware of) that even one of those shooters has chosen his target because it was a gun-free zone.

  • gizkastomper

    How do you figure? What guarantee do you have that a CCW holder wouldn’t have gotten shot too?

  • joules48084

    When I envision “gun-free campuses,” why is it that the adage, “like shooting fish in a barrel,” comes to mind??!!

  • 7RS

    If armed guards are good for the President, why are armed guards bad for everyone else?

  • 7RS

    I am my own armed guard.

  • joules48084

    Because he’s ‘special,’ and we’re not!!

  • gizkastomper

    Prove your assertion. Prove that is the reason. While you’re at it, prove why countries that have strict gun laws have lower gun crime.

  • gizkastomper

    I was being sarcastic, idiot.

  • GenEarly

    and the sheeples go baaa baaa, gun free zones protect us from illegal gunz that want to kill us, and the mooslems go allah akbar, and the psych drugged childruns insanely shoot their fellow stoodents……….and no return fire is ever allowed by the Libs. It’s just too dangerous!

  • gizkastomper

    There you go now we’re onto something.

  • thetruthhurts

    SUPREME COURT RULING: Police Have No Duty To Protect The General Public…Citizens are responsible for their own protection…..

    http://gunssavelives.net/blog/supreme-court-ruling-police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-general-public/

  • timothius

    It’s gun free only for law abiding citizens, all the rest just do it anyway. The creepy crud bums in Washington will never learn. We need new congressmen and senators. That are still on the planet.

    By the way. If they come for my guns the better be sure to bring theirs, and be sure to call fox!

  • pbtruth

    What are you talking about the Batman killer said so himself. He actually changed where he was going do his shooting finding the gun free zone. Man you lock step libs cant think for yourself. You are just unbelievably incompetent of thinking for yourselves. Also they have spoke to criminals in prison who have affirmed they stay away from plying their craft in they believe they will run into an armed citizen

  • Michael Griffith

    They really have to make those Gun Free Zone signs bigger. The killer obviously didn’t see them!

  • RDiablo

    Show me his quote.

    Then show me the remarks of the criminals in prison.

    I’m a moderate Republican you fool. Albeit one with an education, so I understand why you’re thrown.

    Sources?

  • RDiablo

    Furthermore – a mere fraction of mass shootings are in gun free zones, despite all your drivel.

  • TexTopCat

    There are no guarantees in life. However, I want a chance to live rather than no chance. We also know that armed law abiding citizens stop millions of violent crimes every single year.

  • Charles Nash

    I am sure all of Obama’s old pals would be cheering about this: Bill Ayers and his skanky wife, that GD America preacher, his father and most of the scum he hung around with in school.

  • Charles Nash

    Gotta have ADA-compliant letter sizes on those signs!

  • Frank Weinkoff

    Anyone ever notice that when someone has Obie’s feet to the Fire on one issue, a shooting takes place to deflect everyone’s attention? Nothing like trying to disarm Americans while Russia and China are about to hand our a $$ to us !

  • Frank Weinkoff

    Probable a relative of the kid that built the IED…, uh, alarm clock that got invited to Obama’s Rainbow House of ILL Repuke !

  • Nonya Busness

    really

    hmmm please provide your sources im mean really are you that brain washed..

    every single mass shoot in the past 5 years has been in a gun free zone….

    if that is not a solid fact please recite one that has not been

    a mere fraction my arse… you liberals are so mind screwed you don’t even know fact from fiction …

    so here lets lay it out for you ..

    1 charllston church GUN FREE
    2. UC Santa Barbara campus GUN FREE
    3. Washington DC navy yard GUN FREE
    4. Santa Monica College GUN FREE
    5. New Town Conn GUN FREE
    and the list goes on and on

    and here is the source: http://timelines.latimes.com/deadliest-shooting-rampages/
    so no get a grip you liberals have completely lost it..

  • jamesjq

    Saw a piece about Unions switching support from HRC to Trump. Verified?

  • Mouse Clicker

    Frankly I believe that the daily toll in liberal run cities across the nation is much much higher overall than the so called mass shootings. Detroit, St. Louis and Chicago have astounding daily body counts. Obama never makes speeches about that fact.

  • Nonya Busness

    after the 2 comments you made you are a liberal
    at best a RINO
    if you truly had an education you would have researched your statements before putting them to paper..
    in the last 10 years the vast majority of mass shooting have been in gun free zone citys with heavy gun control and states that have all but banned the personal ownership of a firearm..
    please research before you make statements like that you make true conservatives look bad..

  • Splatterdbastard

    I thought GUN FREE zones were safe places.
    Oh yeah, they ARE SAFE: If YOU are the only one with a gun wanting to kill people

  • Karen B.

    Obama and Democrats are responsible for this shooting . Democrats anti Christian stance promoted this attitude . How much you want to bet he’s Muslim , if he was white they would have blasted his name by now.

  • Charles Nash

    You make not one Iota of sense.

  • Dancquill

    Whatever drives up the cost to taxpayers, the union leadership will support.

  • Charles Nash

    He is a Soros robo-puppet.

  • Dancquill

    No, just withholding their immediate support for Hillary. Nothing toward trump… other than the union using Trump to try and force Hillary to make some back room deals to win their support.

  • RDiablo

    You cited the example thanks: UC Santa Barbara!!! It wasn’t in a gun-free zone. It was at an off-campus apartment, then on a street with businesses aligning it.

    There you go! Quit parroting stupidity “Nonya” – and learn some English while you’re at it.

  • RDiablo

    No Nonya, I’m a Republican. I’m a reader and researcher and don’t get suckered (like you, as I pointed out above) into talking points. And I don’t copy/paste garbage that’s false. You do.

    Your grammar is abysmal – and I already tore one of the few points you made (then contradicted) in shreds.

    Seriously – I don’t know you, you don’t know me – why are you here putting on a charade?

  • uvm73

    Thank you! Yes, Obama, despite his pencil neck & overwhelming female attributes, is a “pig of a man”! Gun Free Zones are a complete joke, and if the idiots who call it a “myth” read this article, they would know that there are Indeed “gun free zones”.

  • FW190

    I live in Chattanooga and have a good friend in Kennesaw

  • Julian Fries

    Well, they aren’t telling you anything about the shooter. This means he’s Muslim.

  • Charles Nash

    It often seems that way.

  • tommy mc donnell

    your are as condescending as the most liberal democrat.

  • Charles Nash

    It couldn’t work any better that way if they had planned it. You don’t suppose…… nah!

  • jamesjq

    I never read the rationale for CC. Without that, I can only guess the program was a federal program to over-rule states rights, state education laws? The feds have worrisome control of your health, education, and…well, the Republicans are making no effort to distinguish themselves form Demos (the destructors}. Go Ben, Carly!

  • another_engineer

    1) Another kid prescribed pharmaceuticals for a mental problem that we’re all supposed to embrace.
    2) A muzz from the local Mosque
    3) a homosexual who is distraught because no one wants to have his unit up their turd cutter.

    MY bet is on #1… well over 90% of shooters in the recent decades were on some sort of anti-psychotic drug.

  • another_engineer

    Or on prescription drugs.

    The black church shooter was on Suboxone…. and was drinking with his best friend a black guy the night before.

  • Charles Nash

    How much would we bet he was on psychotropic drugs too. That is another ‘frequent-flyer’ in the shooter game. They are always puny, social misfits with no social skills and could never get laid.

  • Julian Fries

    Yes, but we had his ID and all of that right away. It was staged.

    This was a surprise, also, no “shooter drill” within the last few days as is common in sll the other FBI run massacres.. It’s likely real this time around, and he’s being protected by our balless, slathering media.

  • Wild Hog

    Suffice to say, gun free zone colleges are going to move to the top of the list for yes/no for parents and students. My answer would be a resounding NO.

  • Charles Nash

    LA is up there again because we have a senile Democrat commie governor that let about 20,000 felons out of prison over the last few years.

  • another_engineer

    I heard the dude had a facebook page he warned of this too

  • Charles Nash

    What is up with the coal miners union still promoting Democrat scum. You know the ones that promised putting them out of busines
    s

  • Wild Hog

    I was just going to post the same thing. Glad to hear it just isn’t me that noticed. It does seem to happen just a little too often. Meaning always.

  • Dave

    This could not have happened. It was a gun-free zone, and everybody knows criminals always obey the law.

  • Charles Nash

    It is proof that unions exist only to promote leftistm Pretending to be for their trade worders is a sham – it is all theatrics.. The only time they do anything for their members is to damage business.

  • John (magnum)

    KING Obama, we need:

    Demoncrap control

    MOOSLUM control

    Illegal Messican control

    An open season on MOOSLUMS and Messicans

  • Patriot41

    Since Christians were being singled out for massacre, it is apparent that this was a hate crime. One wonders whether the shooter was a muslim or a homosexual? Either way, it has nothing to do with gun control and everything to do with a president, who supports both muslims and homosexuals.

  • TrollStomper9000

    The solution is obvious. Schools need a dress code where everyone has a Gun-Free t-shirt. That’ll tell those criminals not to carry guns!

  • Charles Nash

    It should be a law that if you need psychotropic drugs you should be either in a nut house or prison.

  • gerpto

    Obama was SILENT about gun crime when black homosexual, Vester Lee Flanagan, shot white Alison Parker and Adam Ward in August. Obama is scum, just like you RDiablo.

  • Dancquill

    Sorry John. You are sounding like a liberal troll.

  • ZiggyStardust

    Maybe kiosks…press 3 for Arabic

  • Dancquill

    You were asked for some proof… links? You have avoided giving any.

  • hydrangea1

    Very strange that the name or info on the shooter hasn’t been released by authorities. The info is coming from the students. Could it be that the shooter is ,dare I say it, muslim? If so, we probably won’t hear anything more about it from Obammy.

  • Hugo Martin

    some anti-Christian POS

  • timmyfoxx

    Obama will probably invite the shooter’s family to the White House with Clockmed and the staged illegal that ran up to the Pope. It wasn’t the shooter’s fault, it was the guns…

  • John (magnum)

    Riiiiight

    Now run along !

  • Meathead Rob Lowe ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    The truth does not fit the narrative bro!!!

  • Wild Hog

    Oh, the little girl illegal was so staged. I thought to myself, “do they think we are all that stupid”?

  • Dancquill

    So do so yourself.

  • Meathead Rob Lowe ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    They do think we are all that stupid bro!

  • timmyfoxx

    So was clockmed. He pulled the guts out of a clock and called it a invention.

  • John (magnum)

    Speak English not gibberish

  • Wild Hog

    Christians? We won’t hear much about this guy, and even if turns out that he is Muslim, it won’t be labeled a terrorist attack, they will Fort Hood the whole thing,

  • Mandingo1

    I hold Obama responsible for this. He has introduced insanity, callousness, and a hatred and intolerance of police and Christians and an arrogant disregard of basic morality to our society.

  • Dancquill

    Umpqua college.. gun free zone.

  • Mandingo1

    And on cue, our scumbag pos “president” once again makes a political statement about guns. A “solution” that is stupid and incompetent.

  • Wild Hog

    If he had been a white Christian, they would have expelled him for good.

  • Wild Hog

    I think so. At least those who they are desperately trying to keep in the flock.

  • Dancquill

    Really John.. murdering “messicans and mooslim” is really what a liberal troll would post. Would you like to moderate or mitigate your post?

  • John (magnum)

    Why, they are killing Americans, are they not ?

    Odumbo keeps bringing them in and more Americans die.

    Run along with your bleeding heart. You’re starting to sound like a liberal !!

  • WhoCaresFU

    Good job America. You feminized morons are raising a bunch of great insane future “adults”. This country is no longer free and most older US adults are no longer sane….

  • Dancquill

    likely, only liberal trolls will approve of your murdering “mooslims and messicans”.. Right wingers want control of our borders and preventing more invasions.

  • Jack Knoll

    Another Gun Free Zone shooting by a Muslim from the “Religion of Peace” Obama loves so much. Homeland Security rushed in and took over to cover up the shooter’s identity, per Obama’s order, to give them more time to delete his Youtube and Face Book posts and erase as much of his background as possible to minimize his ties to the Religion of Peace. Obama is a member of The Muslim Brotherhood, he has to help his friends.

  • ajkfldsjkaf

    If odumbo had a son.

  • Jack Knoll

    50+ shootings every weekend in Chicago. Obama lies and says more gun control will work. What about Chicago? the most strict gun control in the country. Same with DC. Obama, your lies don’t fool anyone. Allah Akbar Muslim Obama.

  • John (magnum)

    You are not a Conservative. A freaking RINO, MAYBE, but not a Conservative !!

    Go eff yourself !

  • Joe_Bleau

    When the white guy shot blacks in Charleston his race and politics were immediately made public by thr mainstream media. Not a word about the rumors that Oregon shooter is a “Black Lives Matter” supporter, a black american and a hater of Christians, you know, like our president.

  • Umina

    How may people are the Democrats going to kill with stupidity that they know doesn’t work? I suppose they consider these kids late term abortions. One good guy with a gun and they all could be alive. 10 more useless deaths for the liberals, of course that’s nothing at all compared to the abortion deaths, so I understand why they simply don’t give a damn.

  • Umina

    NO MASS SHOOTINGS would have been stopped by MORE “gun free zones”, but every single one would have been stopped by a good guy with a gun!

  • Dancquill

    Go eff yourself doesn’t sound conservative. Sounds liberal or far left. A freaking liar!

  • Umina

    Good post. I love it when you shove liberal horse s**t right in their faces!

  • Umina

    Hey, let me quote your fearless feminine leader – WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??

  • Umina

    If you were educated you’d know its beyond idiotic to prove the negative – ie something didn’t happen. Invert yourself and start thinking like a real conservative.

  • Dancquill

    You don’t understand English… Preferring to type and speak gibberish yourself.

  • Umina

    How about you supply the links to prove your stupidity. And quoting Obama counts for nothing.

  • Umina

    Of course – remember when he was first elected and made those comments about a civilian military force – ie brownshirts – their job would be to kill conservatives and climate deniers. How he’s still in office baffles me.

  • Dancquill

    The Obots can’t even quote Obama it seems. They rely on phony spell and grammar checks when they run out of rational arguments or requested proof. I guess they are accusing us of having public schooling where accuracy is not required to get a passing grade.

  • rs1123

    Why, why, WHY didn’t they put up MORE of those gun-free signs so that the guy would see them and be a good person? WHY?……

  • h2k

    The white Christian probably really invented that clock from scratch. It took Clockmed a lot of brain power to pull the 4 screws from the housing to expose the circuit board. And for that, he got a White House visit and an offer to intern at Facebook. Awesome!

  • Justactsplease

    Gun free zone = criminals’ sanctuary.

  • Matt

    Lol Thats kinda my point. Obama is already calling for more gun laws. But what this idiot doesn’t understand is criminals don’t follow the law. So they’ve basically made it illegal for the possibility of self defense, at least give these students a chance with arming the security. They’ve tied these victims hands behind their back and led them to the slaughterhouse. The current gun laws are causing more of these situations to happen. You don’t see these maniacs shooting up the police stations, quite the contrary, they predominately occur in gun free zones. We could stop calling them gun free zones and instead: “Progreessive Population Control Zones”

  • Pouncekitty

    Don’t tempt them. Libs would take you up on that with a straight face. This is how dysfunctional and extremist the DemocRats have become. Extremist gun hating low-lifes.

  • RDiablo

    I agree with your first point and I don’t think anyone would disagree. At the heart of the discussion is, does the decrease in accidental

    Your second point is false, because a good guy with a gun doesn’t always shoot accurately and two, these psychos typically don’t care (see the Santa Monica shooter, who actually fired on police)

  • RDiablo

    horribly out of context.

  • RDiablo

    I abhor lying. I also abhor ignorance. So when someone cites examples that are patently false – I’ll let them have it. I have no horse in this race – and am no fan of the circlejerk that is message board partisanship. I tell it like it is.

  • RDiablo

    You misunderstood. He made a claim and can easily prove it – merely by citing the evidence. It’s true/false 101.

    There isn’t any that I am aware of.

  • RDiablo

    There are THOUSANDS of murders a year that he doesn’t comment on you fool.

  • RDiablo

    You offer nothing to this discussion.

  • RDiablo

    I have to see this quote. Source?

  • RDiablo

    Disqus prevents posters from posting links.

    Google “gun free zone myths” and read the evidence from both sides of the discussion on the first page alone. You will see an abundance of studies showing a) of all the mass shootings (look at FBI numbers), a mere fraction take place in gun-free zones. b) mass shootings make up a tiny fraction of all the gun murders in this country c) the studies and claim that gun-free zones don’t attract these psychos, along with the ensuing claim that these psychos never claim to seek gun free zones. On the flipside there is a dearth of studies, a lot of catchy rhetoric and the constant regurgitation of fabricated examples, several of which were posted above and I discredited.

    Again, Google and you will find plenty of point/counterpoint.

  • RDiablo

    I avoid nothing. I was at dinner.

    As I told you before, read.

  • mike

    Well, what difference does it make?

  • RDiablo

    Here’s an ok read, nothing too indepth, minus the histrionics:

    http://reverbpress.com/justice/anti-gun-free-zones-stupid/

    For the life of me I don’t know how Disqus allowed me to post this.

  • Norinos

    Gun free zone = open season for the evil or crazy people.

  • mrobvious222

    I watched a bit on CNN earlier this evening. I couldn’t take too much.
    1) They had a press conference some 7 hours after the shootings. A few comments by the sheriff and then he turned it over to his PIO (public information officer).
    PROBLEM #1. WTF does a town of 22,000 in some valley in the middle of nowhere have a PIO? They probably have about five press releases a year (six if you count the one about being careful with fireworks on July 4).
    IDEA #1: Instead of spending tax dollars on stupid, unnecessary, and incredibly stupid things like Public Information Officers for towns with more cows than people, spend that money and put another man in a cruiser. A HUGE part of what plagues our society is that people feel they can drive and do anything they want and nobody stops them or enforces laws any longer. The more you let them get away with, the more lawless they become.

    2) The first words out of the PIO’s mouth were to say they were maintaining a hashtag blah-blah-blah. I don’t know what the hashtag was, hence the blahs, but I do know what it means. Who wants to sign up for twitter and hear what this moron tweets for the next two weeks. It was as if he was finally glad there was a tragedy so that all his years of training for facebook, twitter, instagram and blogging could finally be put to use.

    It is just too bad they have him train for some useful police purpose. Maybe even he could have been stationer at the community college with a GUN instead of a private security guard with a can of mace. Too expensive, you say? Hmmm. Interesting. But they seem to have had enough money to pay him to sit at a desk and issue a few press releases a year and dream up hashtags should such an event happen.

    And there are tens of thousands more of them, sitting at desks tonight, in farm communities big and small, doing no police work but draining the system of valuable resources. This is PC. This is your country now.

  • RDiablo
  • bdrew

    Umpqua Community College is not a gun free zone. A 2011, state court decision prohibited public colleges from banning guns on campus. The decision stemmed from a suit filed by the Oregon Firearm Education Foundation, a gun rights group. There was an effort to pass a new law to reinstate the ability of public colleges to ban guns. That measure was defeated by gun rights advocates.

    The student code of conduct bans guns “without written authorization.” Under Oregon law, the university could not ban people with a valid concealed carry license from bringing their weapons on campus. (They could ban gun from various buildings and facilities.) Conservative writer Dana Loesch, who initially claimed the campus was a “gun free zone,” updated her article to clarify that individuals with concealed carry permits were allowed to bring guns on campus.

    There was, in fact, someone on campus with a concealed carry weapon at the time of the massacre.

  • mail.comSam Spade

    Why does Obama surround himself with Gun Toting Slaves and Arm0red vehicles if he wants a GUN FREE AMERICA?

    Something is wrong with the Obama Style of Reasoning as well as the reasoning of his pets in the Media!

  • mail.comSam Spade

    Democrats are the ONE PERCENTERS – check out Hillary and Bill!

  • mail.comSam Spade

    In big Liberal DEMOCRAT cities The GUN FREE ZONES are riddled with bullets!

    On 12-14 shot in Chicago over he Weekend and Obama did not care to report it !

  • poltex

    I keep reading that this community college allowed concealed carry with a permit. I dont think its a factor either way so we should stop with the “anti-gun zone” reasoning. In the past, I carried a gun everyday on campus even though there were signs posted. I carry everywhere now because I have the right to protect myself. Theres nothing else to talk about that subject. What I want to know is now that we have a name and a face and a slight motive involving religion, what was this guy really up to? Was he just a lonely confused guy that had no friends and felt the need to harm other people forthe lack of acceptance? Is race a driving factor here for his anger? How is the media going to spin this one out of control? What kind of knee-jerk reaction is the big letdown Barakkk Obummer going to pull instead of focusing on the Russians invading the middle east and doing what we should have done years ago? Sorry, that was a lot of questions…

  • poltex

    because royalty always gets what they want

  • One4Life

    So, if guns could be banned from “buildings and facilities” how is this not equivalent to a gun free zone. The students were to leave their guns in a basket outside the door?

  • TheBruce

    I’m sure the first thing that went through Obama’s head when he heard of this was, “Thank God they weren’t Muslims.”

  • conversantme

    Obama is already blaming members of Congress who uphold their oath to the Constitution including the 2nd amendment…. No mention of gun-free school policies and unarmed security. Someone needs to put this abusive, worthless, poisonous, garbage-eating, traitor out of office. Americans are tired of his treason and his harassment. He is a liar and his feigned anger is just more narcissistic deflection. He know full well that anti-gun laws and policies leave people vulnerable to violent criminals. Throw this lying trash out of our White House.

  • Juvenal2

    It’s immediately assumed that people who do this are “mentally ill.” Yet they always seem to be sane enough to save their rampages for the gun-free zones.

  • conversantme

    Obama is doing his usual blood-dance…. Blaming America and the Constitution for the sick, evil that gun-control laws have encouraged…. Gun-free laws and policies that OBAMA SUPPORTS are a crucial factor in all of these events, yet the narcissist continues to rail against American freedom and the natural human right of effective self-defense which these students were denied and which would have saved their lives….. We need to throw this blind, hateful, abusive, wicked, foolish trash out of our White House. Enough blood has been shed allowing him to impose his unjust fantasies upon our nation.

  • E. Newton

    Hey, race has nothing to do with this kind of thing. White people kill black people at the same rate that African-americans kill others. Just being African-american does not make a person more prone to savage violence. Actually, if you look at the statistics, African-americans are considerably more peaceful that even Asians.

  • E. Newton

    If this killer turns out to be tightly involved with the Black Lives Matter movement, I don’t think we should rush to judgement. It could be nothing more than a coincidence.

  • Bill Catz

    100 to 1 the shooter was a progressive liberal.

  • conversantme

    These students would still be alive if their human right to effective self-defense had not been violated. Yet, still, Obama blames American freedom as the CAUSE of this evil and feigns anger at those who uphold their oath of office and support the human right to self-defense…. All the while ignoring the fact that unconstitutional anti-gun policies doomed these people to a violent death. Obama is an enemy of humanity.

  • dd121

    Shooter was a mulatto. What else do you need to know?

  • dd121

    Va Tech, gun free.

  • GETBENDT

    If “gun free zones” work why not declare them “no shooting zones” or “no getting shot by crazed lunatic zones” or “you won’t get murdered zones”? It seems the typical libtards answer to everything is happy talk and good intentions. Well, their good intentions left these unfortunate people unprotected and without any means to stop a crazed attacker. Good job libtards, people died because of you once again.

  • Messanger

    It’s a GUN FREE Zone Damn it! Can’t they read?? Need More signs, BIGGER signs, maybe flashing neon signs. Some criminals just aren’t getting the message. Maybe local media could do more… flood the airwaves with Public Service Announcements. Tell criminals exactly WHERE the gun free zones are so they don’t break the law. The people shot were obviously obeying the law, the people who ran for their lives didn’t have guns, they were obeying the law. Why does it always have to be the 97% of criminals who give the rest a bad name? Obama needs to throw more $$ to get the word out to the bad guys. Threaten criminals with more gun laws if they don’t abide by the ones we have now. It’s all about the laws now ain’t it?

  • scumbuster

    GUN FREE means more death by arrogant, narcissistic, Marxist emperor LIBERAL NUT THUGS.

  • saturn

    He targeted only Christians, so if there had been a “No Christians allowed”-sign the Muslim would not have had targets! And Obama would have been happy too.

  • cusfo

    Every surviving victim, and every member of those who have died, should bring a lawsuit against every person directly responsible for the Gun Free Zone that prevented self defensive measures to occur!!

  • RHG

    Well of course, when it’s a white guy shooting up a black church it’s about “racism”, when it’s a non-white targeting white Christians it’s about “gun control”.

  • cusfo

    “With just one single exception…every public mass shooting since 1950 has been committed in a “Gun-Free Zone”. That is the truth. And this is the truth:”Gun-free zones” don’t protect anyone except those with evil intent. And lawful armed citizens don’t endanger anyone except the bad guys. The drivel comes from your twisted mouth.

  • No Guns = Democide bitly.com/whatisdemocide

  • John Campbell

    It’s starting to appear this guy was an atheist.

  • gseattle

    What? Switzerland has one of the highest rates of gun ownership and the lowest gun related crime rate of any civilized country. When Britain banned guns, gun crime went up 35%, as suddenly criminals had a field day against the defenseless populous, until a large increase in cops at a cost to the people’s pocketbooks.

    One can google – britain gun ban crime rate – for example.

  • JWood-the-other

    So why then don’t these guys shoot up police stations. Can’t be the armed people inside.

  • JWood-the-other

    I just read your recommended link and his argument is weak. He includes multiple shootings during the commission of robberies to dilute the “mas shooting” numbers.. I would have thought that a deep thinker like you would have picked up on that right away. BTW.. A little research on the author would have shown you that Evan DeFilippis is a anti gun professional who makes a living attacking gun rights in most of the left wing rags.

  • Joe McCarthy was right

    Liberalism is hazardous to your health.

  • So
  • lopagus1

    gunfree? yeah, no wonder. sheep to the slaughter.

  • Monty Simmons

    It was a “Gun Free” zone – which is the same as a complete gun ban in such zone. How much more gun control can one have than to ban guns?

    But since the “complete gun ban zone” worked so well at this community college lets expand the policy to include the United States, LOL.

    Hey, I have an idea, since laws seem to be the answer, why not just make America a Kill Free zone and make killing illegal? Then people would not be allowed to use anything to kill others including guns.

    Liberals are idiots – I just wished only Liberals suffered the consequences of their stupidity.

  • No One Important

    I find it a bit grotesque that Obama used this horrific act to inject a political “agenda” in about gun laws. . . .There’s not a single “law” that would have prevented what this nutter did.Notice how some of the reports try to portray him as a “conservative republican?”Got news for you – “conservative republicans” don’t hate organized religion. “Conservative” Republicans don’t think Christians should die.He was an IRA nutter. . . .he was an insane nutjob. . . .

  • RalphEaton2011

    If a new law would have stopped this, please tell me what that law would say.

  • Boomer

    Hey all, help a liberal friend out. Put a “Gun Free Zone” sign in front of their house! After all they are totally unprotected now…… Think they’ll mind? If they do…PLEASE ask them why they want the same sign put in front of my children.

  • RalphEaton2011

    John Holmes. Read the case.

  • RalphEaton2011

    It does shift the odds.

  • No One Important

    Exactly – if “laws” prevented things – we wouldn’t have murders in Chicago (a gun-free city), pick pocketing, scams, car thefts, rapes, speeding, etc. . . .Why do liberals constantly think another “law” is going to help them? Would have stopped this?The question I have – was this nutter on any specific medications? I want to know if he was . . . .it’s time to start to look at whether medications are playing a role in some of these situations.If someone is radical (like this guy loved the IRA) and is on a medication that can cause “suicidal thoughts”. . . .that’s a toxic mix.

  • The Truth

    You’ve got to be kidding . . .
    The reason we can’t accurately assess the mass shooting phenomenon is because people like you simply won’t face facts that are contrary to their worldview. The presence of guns has always been a reality in the U.S., but the mass shooting are a relatively recent development. What’s changed? Is the advancement of conservative principles or liberal ideas in the culture? Be honest . . .

  • No One Important

    The excerpt from the college rules said guns were prohibited. Right there in this article – didn’t you read it?

  • Eric Zombrow

    I guess he did not see the signs stating that this was a gun free zone….I pray for the families who lost people and I prayer for a speedy recovery mentally and physically for those wounded. And may the shooter rot in hell for being so evil.

  • Eric Zombrow

    That is what is scary, someone out there probably is thinking this.

  • GK

    How about butter knives? Better measure the blade length before you butter your bread.

  • AdVantageV12

    It has gotten to the point that the left idealists won’t cover or try to cover their agenda.

    MSNBC doesn’t mention anything or bring to light about him wanting to kill Christians on their front page story – the propaganda is all about guns, period.

    I find it very sickening the media and our narcissist loser President can forget about how the Columbine kids had propane bombs as their primary weapon.
    Thankfullly they didn’t go off as planned.

    When is this President going to mention mental health issues in this country ????

    The moral of the story is simply this – those who are carrying out these acts are seriously insane on way or another and are going to carry out a terrible acts
    one way or another……if he didn’t have a gun he would have used something else.

    It’s not hard to create an explosive device if you really want to.

    Ask Timothy McVeigh about that one.

  • No One Important

    Hmmhttp://www.compliancesigns.com/media/NH/policy-rules/1000/Concealed-Carry-Sign-NHE-16347_1000.gif

  • Dave_in_StLouis

    Liberal progressives don’t want gun control, with the ultimate goal of banning gun ownership, because of public safety concerns. They want gun control because it is easier to control an unarmed population than an armed one.

  • No One Important

    If you can’t see the sign above – hit refresh on your browser.

  • WarOn?

    Kill a Christian = gun violence

    Kill a Muslin = hate crime

    Kill a Jew = they deserve it for hurting those poor Palestinians

    Abort a baby at 34 weeks = woman’s choice

    Toss a baby our the window 5 minutes after birth = first degree murder

    Kill a pregnant woman – double murder

    Which is it progs?

  • WarOn?

    Hey Obama – why dont you go back with your buddy Rohm and study how gun control is working in Chicago. Probably about as well as your middle east policy.

  • randy

    Id
    permission to use your text! Great job.

  • WarOn?

    Logic of the left:

    Ban all legal weapons but if you cant because of those evil GOP

    1 gun with 12 bullets = bad

    3 guns with 4 bullets each = solution

    Its fun to remember that he had all of the DEM numbers in congress to do this
    but he hose giving out free healthcare to illegals instead

    Gun free zones are as effective as Obama telling Putin to stay out of Crimea

  • foolmesilly

    Gun Free? What are the reports that this is in retaliation to the French Subway incident?

  • Democrat+Republican=Oligarchy

    this mixed race guy claims was a conservative but hated religion and Christians? Sounds like this is another false flag LW attempt to push more antigun propaganda

  • Oboy_must_go

    Had a gun in my house for twenty years and it hasn’t shot anyone yet. Maybe guns aren’t the problem here.

  • Paladin

    Investing in ammo may have been cheaper than the cost of the ‘gun free’ signs. It certainly would have been more effective… Who is the security guard??… Barney the Dragon??

  • Oboy_must_go

    Lack of discipline and morals taught in schools. Kids now days grow-up to be fruitcakes.

  • amuncat

    Everyone who believes in gun control should be required to have a gun free zone sign in their yard just as they do with schools and other public buildings…..

  • defender

    Gun free zone?? Was the shooter using a bow and arrows? … How asinine can these people be, who think “gun free zone” is good thing! Even forced the security officer to be unarmed! Learn this: There is no such thing as gun free zone. This event shouts: “Muzzles. Law enforcement, look for muzzles online, track ’em down.”

  • amuncat

    Agreed!
    A gun free zone just announces that this is the best place to kill w/o interference!

    The campus security was unarmed!!!! Just what was he suppose to do! Oh, I get it, the liberals thought of this to make EVERYONE feel safe, including the gunman, safe and secure to kill at will!
    This logic creates vulnerabilities for the masses…ask Europeans whose countries are being overrun with illegal aliens. They have free rein because no one is armed…

  • mike_smith

    The college is responsible for the safety of their students and employees, based on their ban on people carrying handguns onto the campus for their protection.

  • abcnewscensorscansuckit

    Yes they are, son. Now sit back and allow yourself to be schooled. Adam Lanza – libtard. James Holmes – libtard. Mohammed Abdulazeez – libtard “victim-status” ergo a lib. Those are just the latest and most heinous. The guy that shot up South Carolina embraced national socialism, so that makes him a sister Regressive of yours.

    All of you libs have some type of mental issues, else you wouldn’t be libs. There’s no spin here, sister.

  • abcnewscensorscansuckit

    And another thing to bear in mind is that your sister Regressive that did this shooting targeted Christians. Hmmm….wonder where he got those ideals from….indeed….

  • Mark Halupowski

    The Mass Mediocre News has not said a word about a “gun-free zone”. Well how come???
    Answer–Cause the Prez would look foolish during his “sermon” ’bout gun control.

  • honestAbesurd

    False flag drill. People will believe anything without one single bit of proof. 44 shootings under Obama. that is not a coincidence. Check out the DHS web site and see the planned school shooting drill planned for this city. Bash me if you want. But you are being manipulated and most are to emotional to see it. Have a good day folks.

  • You are correct. Surprisingly, the fraction of one percenters are disproportionately Progressives. The smaller that fraction of a percent gets the more likely they are Progressive and the less likely they are to follow the plan they choose for others.

  • Afterheart

    “Moderate Repub” means rino, means dem”rat”, ….a distinction without a difference!

  • Buster

    We now know why they withheld his name. Because he was singling out Christians to shoot. so they had to go and probably scrub his online anti-christian rants and facebook page. Your govt at work – hiding the facts from you to protect the christian haters.

  • Buster

    + 1000. the progs can’t answer this because they brains are twisted in rage against white christians. they are mentally ill.

  • Steve Doll
  • smokeybandit

    Once again, criminals love gun control

  • LiberalsRLost

    This just in UT El Paso professors are protesting Texas laws and refuse to allow students to carry in their class rooms….
    Can’t make this up…..
    Logic like climate change hoax eludes reality for so called “educators”

  • Miagogo

    There aren’t too many “conservative republican atheists” who are violent nutbags, who hate christians enough to murder, living with their mother.

  • Verbotene Gedanken

    Stupid Laws kill people.

    This is why I ignore the law every single time it tells me to be stupid.

    I carry or I don’t go.
    (With a few exceptions for places where they have *real* security to protect me.)

  • Miagogo

    Propaganda. Scroll up. They don’t even allow water guns.

  • Verbotene Gedanken

    “More Guns, Less Crime: Understanding Crime and Gun Control Laws (Studies in Law and Economics)” by John R. Lott Jr.

    Available on Amazon.

    Education is your friend…

  • Southern_Cross

    There is a simple truth here.

  • Miagogo

    We need criminal and crazy control along with a ban on gun free zones.

  • Verbotene Gedanken

    What we need is to make the people who set up these make believe “Gun Free Zones” *responsible* for the safety of the people in them.

    This school should be sued out of existence.

  • Verbotene Gedanken

    Those are the hardest ones to see.

  • Miagogo

    Totally agree. This school should be shut down and all the money given to the victims and their families.

  • Verbotene Gedanken

    Or let the families run it. With all the security they feel is needed….

  • Descanti

    You need only to look at the photos of the shooter to confirm that he is, well, nuts, literally, as most of them are but the common thread in many of these shootings is fame, and they know this, even after accepting the stark reality that they will either be killed by police/SWAT or by suicide. So here we go again. The real facts on this case have nothing to do with guns, except perhaps that he had one and nobody else did. When the investigations are made public we will find that he was 1) quite, angry type 2) on antipsychotic or antidepressant meds, 3) estranged somewhat from his family and definitely from society, and 4) possessed by Satan. Back in the good old, non-inclusion days, these people would have been evaluated and locked up in a mental institution. We knew what we were doing back then. Today we treat with meds that make them even more violent and angry than ever. The mental health system is a failure. Period. We need to stop all the therapy with these types and lock them up – no key. They are dangerous to themselves and society. Stop sending tax dollars to the middle east and other countries and bring that money back to properly fund the mental institutions. Look at his eyes in the photos. Behind his eyes, pure evil and hatred – there is not light, just a dead, cold empty look. You law enforcement types know exactly what I am talking about.

  • jwooz

    POTUS says that we knew this was a danger because ‘its happened before’ and ‘we’ve become numb to it’ and ‘it has become routine’.

    POTUS says that we fix other areas of life where there is danger.

    You lie POTUS!

    If what you said was even remotely true, you would have at least attempted to insure student’s safety by REQUIRING armed guards on college campuses because, as you said, IT HAPPENS TOO OFTEN!!!

    And to top it all off, the nutcase singles out Christians to shoot in the head… AND YOU SEE THE NUTCASE’S WEAPONS AS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM HERE???

    Really? Really?

    God help us all!

  • Monty Simmons

    NO one is asking the most important questions:

    (1) Was there a Confederate Flag involved?

    (2) Are Confederate Flag supporters really behind these killings and the Muslim issue a ruse?

    We all know the Religion of Peace has nothing to do with this mass killing and Confederate supporters, especially Southern ones, are really to blame.

    Time to burn more Confederate flags and build more Mosque for the people of the religion of peace to organize, I mean worship.

  • jwooz

    One absolute truth in every single case – the very second someone starts shooting back at the nutcase, the nutcase stops killing his victims.

    But we can’t have that because (1) it’s a gun free zone and (2) in the middle of a massacre someone innocent may be hit accidentally by the person shooting back at the nutcase.

    Really? Really???

  • jwooz

    The important questions have to do with (1) why is a college campus not allowed an armed guard because POTUS says we know this is going to happen and (2) why were Christians being singled out for killing but the bigger problem was the killer’s choice of weapons?

  • jwooz

    Really????????? In the middle of a massacre, your fear is that someone shooting back at the killer might accidentally hit someone innocent??????

    Really? That’s how you think????

  • Buck Nut

    Disqus does NOT prevent anyone from posting links.

  • WarOn?

    CNN last night was asking about the make, model, and capacity of the guns while ignoring the fact that the shooter only killed Christians after asking them to identify their religion.

    If a muslim gets killed its religious bigotry, if a black gets killed its racism, if a cop gets killed its his fault for being too aggressive, if an illegal gets killed its Xenophobia…..if a gay man is killed it is obviously homophobia

  • NJ Conservative

    Liberalism is the greatest threat to the safety and welfare of decent people in our country. Their cowardice and amoral ways will lead to more deaths of the innocent. Liberals must be destroyed.

  • Duodecal

    “The media must cease its graphic and sensationalized wall-to-wall commentary and coverage of violent acts and the details”
    – causes of Copycat crimes described in the study “The Copycat Effect” (google it)

    It’s the news – not the guns

  • Shane

    It’s not true guys… it was NOT a gun free zone

  • M S

    Gun-free zones are whacko shooting galleries.
    Thanks lib gunphobes.

  • Mtpage

    The fact that this guy had time to question people on their religious beliefs only proves that “gun free zones” support mass murderers. Too bad that vet that was saving people wasn’t able to carry. He could have saved many more lives. Now Obama is calling for more gun control. This is no ones fault but liberals in power. The government can not even keep illegal drugs out of this country, and they think they can get rid of guns. Obviously there is a more Nazzi-like reason behind de-arming citizens”

  • RDiablo

    Stupid non-sequitur you committed.

    Do you know why gun free zones are created?

  • RDiablo

    Again, that’s a lazy talking point. Not every public mass shooting has been in a gun free zone. It’s a talking point you’ve been fed. I pointed that out above (ie UC Santa Barbara wasn’t a gun free zone)

    Why do you think gun free zones were created?

  • Mtpage

    Its called common sense.

  • RDiablo

    Combination of factors, but mass shootings are decades old – not relatively recent – at least by my definition.

    The reason we can’t accurately assess the phenomenon? Look at the FBI’s assessment for chrissakes. It mirrors Harvard’s study.

    The reason we can’t accurately assess is because one side repeatedly tries not to assess – the side that merely sums it up (falsely) that “ALL mass shootings have occurred in gun free zones”.

  • RDiablo

    They do JWood! June 13, 2015 in Dallas.

  • Nitro Norris

    someone needs to sue for having “Gun Free Zone” signs. Had people been legally allowed to carry, this may not have been so bad. They only have the signs there to cover their own arses. Not for our protection. We need to put an end to this good intention/poor result “killing field” trend by suing establishments that have “Gun Free Zones” because it welcomes wolves into the pen.

  • RDiablo

    How about the FBI study? And the fact the FBI study falls right in line with the Harvard study? Or that there is a correlation between states with the most lax gun control laws and those with the most incidents?

    DeFilippis is absolutely no worse than pro-gun advocate John Lott is, albeit Lott’s work has been repeatedly discredited.

  • Afterheart

    Some time ago, while visiting a friend in the hospital, I noticed a sign at the entry door that said–“Weapons Free Zone” (Red Circle /line through it). Thinking that it might be funny, I went up to the front desk and asked…where can I get my “free weapon”? The volunteers behind the desk thought about it and we began to laugh! Later I thought to myself, a hospital would be easy pickings for the demented among us. That is why I am always packing!

  • Nitro Norris

    incredible isn’t it? Going out of your way to sound stupid is equal to the liberal trying to be smart.

  • Nitro Norris

    drinking decaf these days? Where’s the bold font!?

    hope you’re well!

  • thedestroyer

    and this just proves once again that when seconds count the police are minutes away.

  • hargen

    Yes, union built, with 10% of the entire project going to artwork. When one starts a boondoogle they might as well jack up the price by adding an extra 10% for the artists, they vote Democrat too.

  • Duodecal

    I volunteered at a local hospital – the FIRST thing I was taught was the emergency code anouncments that come over the paging system.
    Sure enough on the second night I heard the code announced telling security where to rush – real scary

  • Duodecal

    “The media must cease its graphic and sensationalized wall-to-wall commentary and coverage of violent acts and the details”
    – causes of Copycat crimes described in the study “The Copycat Effect” (google it)

    It’s the news – not the guns…

  • poltex

    Dummy. Public property, you can carry per state law.

  • poltex

    Doesnt matter what college rules say. State law allows carry on public property. Maybe I worded my initial response in a misleading way.

  • John (magnum)

    doing fine and hope you are too

  • Afterheart

    I too worked at a hospital and your right, it can be scary. The same can be said of nursing homes. Most inner city hospitals now have metal detectors to prevent problems!

  • Flax Seed

    Allow me to help you with the definition of ‘mass’ – http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mass

  • Nonya Busness

    interesting that you call your self a republican..
    then turn around and use the exact same methods that liberal do to defend their positions .. aka attack the grammar and the messenger but you cant touch the message.
    as for garbage what garbage
    every part of what I posted it true.
    every mass shooting in the past 10 years has been in an area that has gun restrictions in place and on top of that most have posted gun free zones so how have you shredded anything ?.
    sorry but you sound like a whimpering liberal when you make comments like that .

  • migtex1234

    Gun free is an invite to those useless creeps to enter.

  • Nonya Busness

    sorry you need to read more on the gun restrictions of santa babara
    or better yet go there and get pulled over and have them find any kind of weapon on you ..
    you re mixing word to attempt to make your point the entire santa babara area is a gun free zone was the point I made.
    as is most of southern cali hell for that matter most of cali is considered a gun free zone..
    so sorry you have done nothing but make my points.

  • Steve Doll

    You know nothing about schooling. You only parrot. Unless the below was doctored it looks as though he considered himself a republican… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2eabc6110880c94a446c018bb4a66fbef07cd6e522a1204d8b047cf86b45d1bd.jpg

  • Snufy

    The ones who instituted a gun-free zone and even had an unarmed security guard are responsible for those deaths and injuries. I wonder how they sleep at night.

  • JonathanSwifter

    When will we finally allow concealed carry
    in our public spaces? And end the gun-free zones that only encourage violent
    criminals to attack? And get those with violent tendencies off of
    anti-depressant drugs?

    https://www.facebook.com/LafayetteSquareTourOfScandalAssassinationIntrigue

  • roccotool

    This Gun Free Zone encapsulates and points out the proof that when you take guns away from law abiding citizens, only the criminals will have them. Look what happens.

  • teapartydoc

    Our “president” sends out one of his minions to murder us and then demands that we must respond by disarming ourselves.

  • roccotool

    The teachers and security are more worried Little Johnny will create a gun symbol with his Pop Tart.

  • roccotool

    Another troll avoiding the facts and making up his own.

  • Dancquill
  • SaveOurNation

    If you gun grabbers have not gotten the memo- even a 60 second response is not good enough.

    I will look after my own security thank you very much.

    Your choice:
    1. Don’t go to “gun free zone” locations, and vote with your dollar.
    2. Go armed anyway and be judged by 12, rather than carried by 6.

  • SaveOurNation

    The enemy within folks….
       

  • SaveOurNation

    “The ones who instituted a gun-free zone and even had an unarmed security guard are responsible for those deaths and injuries. I wonder how they sleep at night.”

    They don’t sleep… They stay up all night burning the midnight oil trying to figure out new ways to disarm the American populace.

    “Armed we are citizens, disarmed we are subjects…..”

  • blancojoe

    Obama and his family are protected by armed security. He MUST give up that protection so that the rest of us can agree to his gun free diatribe.

  • cindy perry

    SO the college had regulations in place to not allow unauthorized guns on campus. Was the shooter a student and was he provided a copy of the policy? If not a student seems like they would have a sign stating the regulation and asking people to sign in at the front office where they could get permission to bring guns on campus. So sad communicating a simple regulation led to people being killed. There should be a law that everyone is made aware of the law. Either a sign or if a student be provided with a copy of the student handbook.

  • Bill Adams

    If you are so psychotically afraid of guns, that you can’t see the very obvious fact, that Gun Free Zones only prevent good people from having a gun, then you need serious help with your mental problems.

  • the rein man

    Where I live it is illegal to carry in schools, where “No weapons allowed” signs are posted, and various other places, even with a carry permit. Guess what. I carry my sidearm in those places anyway. How often are you stopped and frisked? Keep your gun concealed well, don’t act, dress, or do anything to draw attention to yourself, and nobody will bother you – and carry your gun *everywhere*. To hell with gun laws.

  • ocean

    The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution
    is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that
    protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
    As ratified by the States:
    “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security
    of a free state, the right of the people to keep and
    bear arms shall not be infringed.”

  • ocean

    Democrats and rich liberal elites want unarmed peasants.
    That is why they are against the Second Amendment.

  • “Help me stack these bodies into a neat pile that I can then climb on top of and start screaming about needing to confiscate all guns and turn this country into a police state.” -leftists

  • Wild Hog

    Just listening to the pundits again all morning, I cringe. You cannot have gun free zones and a second amendment. Anytime we go against the constitution, trouble appears. What Obama wants and the rest of the anti-gun nuts are a complete ban on guns. And it will not stop until they either succeed, or we the people send a loud and clear message that their political careers will end quickly if they continue to climb up on their soap box and preach at us. Especially those whose administrations are dumpster fires. If we ever allow it to happen, we are done. Our identity as a country is finished because government by the people will be banished.

  • skyhawk

    Gun free zones were created by liberals laboring under the delusion that criminals who ignore laws prohibiting rape, murder, armed robbery, etc. are going to obey some stupid sign telling them that their guns aren’t welcome.

    Do you know what criminals and crazy people see when they look at a “Gun Free Zone” sign?
    They see: “No one here is armed so..good hunting!”.

  • John Campbell

    A rarity to be sure! One can only wonder where this atheist was radicalized. Hopefully that’s being looked in to.

  • John Campbell

    Here we go again. Break out the tin foil hats.

  • Wild Hog

    Not only that, it is technically our duty to remove anyone who tries to take that away. And any of the other rights listed. Yet, the left does it daily. Gun control and freedom of religion are the two most attacked rights. Speech is catching up quickly. These are acts of treason and are very serious and we do not take it seriously enough.

  • John Campbell

    Ya, ya , ya, I know, I’ve heard it all before. 😮

  • John Campbell

    Yes, I am VERY aware that you cannot seem to cure yourself. :o)

  • skyhawk

    Funny….there’s a mass shooting every weekend here in Chicago (50 people shot just last weekend) and I have never heard Obozo utter a word about it!

    Weird, huh?

  • Jason

    Every Israeli citizen has quick access to weapons and they carry them in public when their military unit is on duty. No mass shootings there… and everyone is so polite !!!

  • That Texas Guy!

    The gun grabbers still don’t get it. Signs won’t stop them. Banning a firearm because it looks scary won’t work either. This is evil pure and simple. This turd was sick and twisted. if any one believes in what he posted as the truth of him being a “conservative republican” they are beyond stupid to be down right brainless zombies….. a typical liberal/Obama supporter.
    P.S. Obama is an Asshat!!

  • John Campbell

    Do us all a favor. Since you’ve figured out that existence is all a big hoax, when you decide, “stop the world, I want to get off”, is your next effort, don’t take anyone else with you. Just take yourself. :o)

  • John Campbell

    Take your hoax life elsewhere. I have no wish to sit through your mental issues again. :o)

  • Charles Nash

    The scum had an Irish background and he worshiped the IRA terrorists that bombed people in Londo, UK department stores for decades.

  • skyhawk

    You know…you may have accidentally hit on something, here.

    To end the carnage in the Middle East being wrought by ISIS, we can put up “Gun Free Zone” signs everywhere. That’ll stop em’!

  • John Campbell

    Now I’ve heard it all. You just exposed you know nothing, again. Please, before you embarrass yourself anymore, …………

  • John Campbell

    I have personal experience with jet crashes as cleanup and as military so as to prevent prying eyes of people who are not our friends from giving out information that can be used against this nation. Naturally that same method was well used at the Pentagon. Cameras don’t get free reign there.

    Now grow up, go back outside and play. (pat on the head) :o)

  • lonestarlizard

    Good point, I did overlook those evil, greedy weasels.

  • John Campbell

    My job is done. :o)

  • John Campbell

    Seems those trying to make money on conspiracy theories still have no sense of shame. No actual sense either. :o)

  • John Campbell

    The United States Constitution. Frustrating leftists since 1781.

  • John Campbell

    Doesn’t sound very U.S. “right-wing”, now does it? Especially since the IRA version of their desired nationalism was/is socialism.

  • John Campbell

    Your spam isn’t getting it. Go hawk your conspiracy theory wares elsewhere. :o)

  • palvadore

    The U.S. has FEWER homicides related to guns than most, if not all of the countries South of our border. And they all have tighter gun control than we do. Even Mexico has MORE gun violence than the US.

    I bet if that hero vet were armed the killer wouldn’t have been so successful.

  • John Campbell

    Congratulations. Now prove your spamming someplace else. :o)

  • shisterfinder

    I will bet you can’t find one instance of a nut shooting up a gun show. What a sheep
    you are.

  • Piquerish

    Well, at least “gun control” worked at Umpqua. All the LAW ABIDING PEOPLE there were unarmed, even the poor toothless “security guard.” Only the vile non-law-abiding homicidal lunatic had a gun.

  • Piquerish

    Perfect response. One hundred percent spot on, including celebratory democrats and the pig analogy.

  • Piquerish

    How many homicides are there in any given week in tightly gun-controlled Chicongo?

  • Gladiator 2013

    The victims in his apartment were killed with a knife.

  • ToursLepantoVienna

    The most dangerous places in America are “gun-free zones”. Thanks, leftists!

  • Nonya Busness

    after reading some of the head lines
    and a left leaning paper describes him or says he is a self described conservative republican..
    hmmm things that make you go hmmm.. then you read he down loaded information on the Nazi party self identified with the IRA and the statements he asked each person what religion they were prior to shooting them..
    see the above does any one really believe he was a conservative republican ?.. that sounds to me to be a red herring statement o and it gets better he was raised in California how many conservative republicans do you know come from the LA area ?.
    something smells here folks. just sayin

  • Francis Flandro

    Shooting Rampages were once very, very Rare. That is until Barak Obama “Arrived” on the Crime Scene.

    Problem –> Reaction –> Solution aka The Hegelian Dialectic

  • Miagogo

    Sure. How many kids know that law? The college rules are written down for all to see, and in the handbook and everything. They want a “save environment for all students”. Only they failed at that.

    Regardless, dummy, the rules mean nothing to the criminal.

  • 1911

    another human tragedy brought to you by liberalism, and the democrat party.

    They have delcared war on morality, family values, christianity, and personal responsibility. This jackwagon was brainwashed by then until he finally snapped. He’s a homegrown terrorist brought to you by the specific aims of a political party trying to turn the US into a socialist nightmare.

  • Jim s

    What part of “shall not be infringed” does Odumbo not understand?

  • SamIamTwo

    Oh look another gun free zone…it’s like hanging a sign out for nutters.

    And no one mentions the hundreds of killings going on in the inner cities. Let’s politicize the inner city killings while we are at it, eh? El presidente won’t go there but will spew about this one, why?

    Chicago is a waste land of innocents lost and killed. Obama’s city.

  • In retrospect your use of the tool “to punish the 1%” is sad as neither group belonging to the Progressive Party ever punish the 1%. They consistently veil threats at the 1% [words don’t hurt] all the while destroying the middle class. It will always be the middle class that pays, even in the classroom as you see.

  • John S

    How did that advertised gun free zone work out for you? (This is with no disrespect to those affected). The point is, what was learned? The first guns arriving to confront the suspect stopped it from continuing.

    Now come the President and others pointing fingers at the NRA (I’m not or ever have been associated with the organization) while preaching Gun Control, (i.e. Gun Takeaway). We already have gun control, have you purchased a gun this century? Here’s an idea, approach this by strengthening the mental health laws. It appears that the common denomination in most of this incidents encompass mental health issues.

  • Now I have heard conflicting reports about this being a “gun free” zone.

    I heard they allow people to CC on campus.

    Not sure if this is true.

    You have the gun lobby feeding us half-truths on one end and the anti-gun lobby hurling half truths on the other end.

    What a tragedy either way!!!

  • OSBuckeye

    That’s a great idea G. Man. When an armed bad guy sees one of the signs, his reaction (because after all it is a gun free zone) will naturally be “darn, I was planning on shooting the place up but now I can’t because guns aren’t allowed.” Problem solved.

  • All liberal killers – hmmmm This is a liberal with a gun, don’t be a liberal.

  • Virginia Mom

    The “threatened use” of a firearm, including “water pistols” is prohibited. So, a fun-loving student who threatens to use the kitchen sink sprayer to spritz her roommate can be expelled?

  • poltex

    Rules will never mean anything to a criminal. Thats the original argument. Always exercise the ability to protect oneself and continually disobey others that want to remove that right. does that make you a criminal? no.

  • John Campbell

    Seems to have been the case in the great Pop Tart caper.

  • John Campbell

    The only test for evil is a religious one. That, it seems, has been outlawed.

  • Flechette

    Why are the Feds (ATF, FBI) getting involved? No one crossed any state lines. This is a state issue.

  • Tyrannicide

    The disarming of Christians is the most important goal of the Atheist/Pagan/Islamic cabal.

  • abcnewscensorscansuckit

    You ‘Rat voters are just mindless dummies that fall for anything. The guy singled out Christians to kill which makes him a typical ‘Rat voter. This current “meme” of your sister Regressive being a conservative Republican hasn’t even been proven, yet you idiots fall for it. And yeah boy, I can school you on anything, fool.

  • abcnewscensorscansuckit

    Hasn’t been proven to be his yet, dipschit, but keep believing the nonsense your beloved Regressive Big Media peddles. You’ll always be a loser, while you keep complaining about your betters’ superior lifestyles.

  • Steve Doll

    You really couldnt/can’t school anyone on anything. You add no substance, just pathetic nonsense, but I also wouldn’t expect anything more from the likes of you. You simply have nothing of value to add to this concersation, so goodbye.

  • Joe W

    When seconds count, police are only minutes away.

  • lostinny

    So could any visitor, teacher, student or employee of the school if they had been allowed to carry and defend themselves. Had to be more than one former millitary on that campus.

  • lostinny

    Because the shooters die, dosn’t take much of a genius to know where to go to kill easily without much chance of getting shot myself. These trash shooters are not going to the police dept, state police or court houses filled with marshals. The go to GUN FREE ZONES

  • Afterheart

    Thanks American news media for promoting bigotry and hatred against Christians day in and day out. You have blood on your hands!

  • lostinny

    Outlaw all liberals from owning or carrying guns, streets wiuld bemuch safer, all gangbangers, illegals, most violent fellons, druggies etc. We might just get a utopian society

  • Afterheart

    Laws mean nothing to today’s government thugs!

  • Afterheart

    The left says that people are basically good. The Bible says the human heart is desperately wicked who can know it. I’ll go with the Bible!

  • Thomas Jefferson

    Just remember. In the past 100 years more people have been killed by their own government than have been killed by all the wars and murders combined. (Democide) Estimated 262,000,000. So the 2nd amendment was indeed to protect the citizens from threats both foreign AND domestic.
    http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

    “In questions of power…let no more be heard of confidence in
    man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.”

    — Thomas Jefferson: Kentucky Resolutions, 1798

  • Freeland_Dave

    Because that’s what they are chartered to do. Stop watching TV and go read the law concerning these things. Gun issues are state’s rights issues but they still have to follow Federal guidelines. Besides, it’s doubtful local law enforcement have the resources necessary to do a thorough investigation. That’s the local taxpayer problem. Be glad there are some agencies that still can work, not that I like them to be Fed. As to Fed, what seems to be the problem with illegal immigration? Why is it that all of the state government officials, all of whom swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States, don’t? Why is it that the Fed that is also supposed to enforce the laws under our Constitution, don’t? Why is it that every time some punk kills that our media holds him or her to be an innocent hero that wouldn’t hurt anyone and people like our President goes along with it? Why? Because most Americans are so stupid today they couldn’t pour rocks out of a box when the instructions were on the bottom of the box.

  • Freeland_Dave

    Or the average American on the street today? It’s against the law in most places to drive and text or talk on a cellular device. Still it goes on now doesn’t it. Bet you have even done it if you’re honest. Never once? Ever? Ever roll through that stop sign or push the yellow light? Never drive over the speed limit or, worse, under it by more than five MPH? But when you get pulled over it’s those bad “government thugs” called law enforcement that are the bad guys right?

  • Freeland_Dave

    And oddly one of the more socialist states in the US.

  • Freeland_Dave

    I describe him as nucking futs. Conservative people don’t resort to this type of action. Enlightened progressive liberals do though. Can you apply any of those self described traits as being Conservative and falling into line with God’s Word? I can’t.

  • Freeland_Dave

    Now don’t go off telling the facts as they are. True enlightened progressive liberals just can’t comprehend them.

  • Freeland_Dave

    Or Washington DC, San Francisco, Orlando, Miami, Los Angles, Saint Louis and others. How about Oakland CA or worse, Stockton CA. All of those places have strict gun control laws and most head up the number of lawless killings by guns in the nation.

  • Freeland_Dave

    No, your reply has proven to the world who the idiot is. Learn to take criticism gracefully and you will get further with your message, not that it’s true. But when you turn people off from the start no one listens.

  • Freeland_Dave

    So, if it’s so great there, go live there. Funny I don’t really like seeing everyone having the need to carry a gun everywhere they go. By your sentence structure I have to ask, is everyone in Israel a member of a military unit so they have to carry a weapon when they are on duty? Incidentally, before you incorrectly label me as anti-gun perhaps you should first know that I own guns and have my legal CCW permit. Just don’t believe that everyone needs to or should be allowed to carry a gun. And carrying a gun in the open is just plain stupid unless you are actively using it. For example, If I was bent on violence I’d take out the visible guns first and then concentrate on the rest. Do you like to advertise yourself as one of the first targets? That’s what you do when you open carry simply because you can. Sort of stupid if you ask me but what ever floats your boat.

  • Morrowc1

    The lefties own this one, totally. Only in San Francisco do they think “passing a law” would have prevented a shooting. Little do they realize, the shooter broke a few dozen laws that were already on the books. So by completely disarming an entire country, the Unicorn and Flowers-in-your-hair Society think mass murderers will change their ways. BHO, true to form, took the bait and jumped on this one within hours. Wait ’till the next one is a Syrian jihadist.

  • EbolaJenkins

    Why are 11 out of 12 mainstream news organizations not doing any ‘investigative-journalism’ on this story?… Why are they all so ‘quiet’… Remember when that Heroin-dealer broke his own neck in the back of a police van near OTHER detained criminals in Baltimore?…
    …and now 0bama wants to turn ALL places in America into Gun Free Zones like the one this half-b1ack anti-Christian who “could have been his son” just executed a crowd???… Just how many documented-Americans is Hussein-0bama hoping to KILL?!?..
    …with the exception of that white mental-kid who killed 9 people in a b1ack church and caused the media to cream its panties for a month straight, the other 99% of mass-shootings in the past 5 years all occurred in “Gun Free Zones”, 0bama, you idi0t!.

  • Freeland_Dave

    Like I stated in a later post, you have already identified the idiot in the above thread and it isn’t John. As to what crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11 I know from personal experience what crashed there and took out several of my personal friends that worked there. What’s your excuse for your ignorance on this subject? Oh right, you read all about it. That’s a little different than actually being there as it happened. Now, who’s the idiot? No I am not a paid government official with a concocted story to placate you and the general public. Simply someone who witnessed it and I could care less if you believe me or not.

  • Freeland_Dave

    And a good job you did. Too bad he is still going on with his lies. But that’s the beauty of the First Amendment. It gives you the right to make a complete fool of yourself in public.

  • Freeland_Dave

    First of all they have to have a valid reason to frisk you. I have a CCW and at times carry in places where it’s illegal. If you don’t give them a reason to search you they never know. Went to the NASCAR race awhile back. Expected there might be some trouble there, which turned out there was. So I carried concealed with my CCW and entered the “gun free” area. When I entered I was asked if I had any weapons. I lied and said, “no”. One of the people with me, who didn’t know I was carrying, said “Yes, I have a pocket knife.” They confiscated his knife and let him in. Later that day a mechanic in the pit went amok and started attacking people with a screwdriver and a hammer. I didn’t have to react because he was to far away but someone else pulled down on him and held him at bay until the cops arrived and took him away. And the other guy that was carrying illegally as I was was simply thanked and allowed to go about his business. Strange how that works out isn’t it?

  • Freeland_Dave

    Investigating Journalism? Seriously? More like professional plagiarism. They don’t even bother to change the wording but copy it word for word and spoon feed it to the public.

  • Freeland_Dave

    Did you expect it would turn out any differently? When I heard about it I already knew what the response from the media and our poor excuse for a President would be.

  • Freeland_Dave

    Well to be honest it’s the fault of those who call themselves Christian but do not act very Christ like. You can call a rose a petunia but in the end it’s still a rose. Just because someone claims to be Christian doesn’t mean that he or she really is. The Bible (God’s Word) speaks to this but few actually follow it. For them they will most likely, at the end of time, hear “I do not know you.”

  • EbolaJenkins

    sad but true… Like a 1937 German Minister-of-Propaganda and sheeet. I think half the problem is how the media-monopoly/conglomerate is more ‘Global’ than they are’American’… so they NEVER look out for American interests, and sort of hate us out of jealousy and also our reaction to 9/11-spawned circumstances we found ourselves faced with… the media could care less if America turns into New Guatemala or New Somalia… in fact, they are pushing for it… Must be nice to ‘control elections’…

  • EbolaJenkins

    sad but true… Like a 1937 German Minister-of-Propaganda and sheeet. I think half the problem is how the media-monopoly/conglomerate is more ‘Global’ than they are’American’… so they NEVER look out for American interests, and sort of hate us out of jealousy and also our reaction to 9/11-spawned circumstances we found ourselves faced with… the media could care less if America turns into New Guatemala or New Somalia… in fact, they are pushing for it… Must be nice to ‘control elections’….

  • Freeland_Dave

    The same part that far to many calling themselves good Americans do not seem to understand.

  • Freeland_Dave

    A soiled one that he wears with pride.

  • rjm2238

    Another mass shooting in a liberal declared free fire zone, otherwise known as a gun free zone. What will it take for these leftists to realize their gun control efforts have been about as successful as the war on drugs has been and even if they could control, to an extent, firearms, it would not help. A person willing to commit multiple murders is not going to be deterred by the possibility of an additional lesser charge for having a weapon they are proscribed from carrying and that is fallacy of gun control. It simply doesn’t work.
    If you need real world proof just look at the results where it has been tried in this country. It has been a universal and a collosal failure and the only statistical correlation between gun control and crime seems to be that the stricter the law the higher the crime rate and the less safe one is.
    Look at Chicago for example. They have a virtual ban on handguns yet they have a half dozen murders every weekend and multiple woundings daily. Add to this the fact that the Supreme Court has ruled that the Second Amendment applies to the individual and you cannot help but arrive at the conclusion that gun control is simply a red herring as an issue or as an option. The Second Amendment is one of our most indespensable civil rights and it is that way for a reason. Had a few students been armed this shooter could have been killed almost immediately by those armed citizens in the school. I mean look at it, what do you expect to get when call the police? Men with guns is what you expect and what do you hope for? That they show up in time to help you. Well as for myself, I cut out the middle man. I carry my own pistol and in fact I carried it the whole time I went to college and just said nothing about it. Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six I guess.
    Rich in New Mexico.

  • JWood-the-other

    Shot AT a police station and drove off because the guys inside had guns. That’s not what we’re discussing and you know it. You are grabbing at threads now.

  • Bubba Gump

    “What will it take for these leftists to realize their gun control efforts have been about as successful as the war on drugs”

    Lobotomy?

  • I don’t understand why the Democrat Shooter would take a weapon into a Gun Free Zone…
    I thought Gun Laws worked??

  • Samuel Cozad

    Gee – how come they ALWAYS happen in “Gun Free Zones”?????

  • JWood-the-other

    Funny little quirk that takes place at gun shows. Everyone that comes in armed has to unload, have the gun inspected, and a plastic tie is placed in the chamber and through the barrel so it can’t be operated. Gun free zone full of guns.

  • JWood-the-other

    He is a troll and a believer of the twisted words of the anti gun left.

  • JWood-the-other

    The only thing they hate more than Republicans are the people that provide the jobs and anyone that is salaried.

  • JWood-the-other

    The moderator didn’t like your earlier post and won’t let me comment on it so i’m commenting here.

    You know when your opponent is on shaky ground when he states his authority is no worse than your own.

  • UpNorth2

    I’d bet, that when it comes to BLM, “retired Marine” even has some friends who are black.

  • JWood-the-other

    I understand that but am at a loss as to why the above two posts were deleted except that perhaps the poster is a little off center.

  • JWood-the-other

    CNN and the 24 hour news cycle. It only seems that this is new.

  • Buck Nut

    A little?

  • JWood-the-other

    Well said! I get your point.

  • joe

    Forces That Shape Our Lives:
    The old view…that human nature is influenced by sin-tendencies, and that it is in need of regular cleansing and servicing has all but been rejected; so that in our day few people take notice of what it is that actually drives them. Here is God’s book on the subject of pride…its stealth, power, and only cure.
    http://www.metropolitantabernacle.org/Sermons-on-1-John/Forces-That-Shape-Our-Lives

  • DrunkSpock

    Was the shooter under the suggestive effects of Scopolamine? Also known as ‘The Devils Breath’, this drug can be used to make the subject extremely docile and receptive to suggestion, with gangs using this in Europe to make people willing to let themselves be robbed, even helping the robbers load their possessions into the truck. And afterwords, they don’t remember it at all.

    This drug is not new, it was actually used during the Revolutionary War against British soldiers. All it takes is a puff of it blown into the face of the victim and the effects are near instant.

    I don’t make this suggestions as any attempt to apologize for or justify the shootings at UCC. I only want to understand what would compel people to do something like this. Scopolamine is a possibility.

    In the movie Foxcatcher, Charles duPont is shown shooting olympic gold medalist 3 times in the chest for no apparent reason. Cocaine was always blamed but a month before the murder, duPont was given Bulgarian Scopolamine prescription for motion sickness. Was this used to coerce him into taking action that would forfeit his fortune and empower his business rivals? His ‘security coordinator’ was always suspected of nefarious influence but nothing concrete could be proven. This security coordinator was sitting in the seat beside Dupont when he shot Dave Shultz.

    I am calling on the authorities to conduct the following test on a hair sample from the UCC shooter:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16959138

    It should be able to detect the substance. Was this substance used? If so, who administered it, and why? I suggest these events could be used for political goals, and the latest mass shooting is being used as justification for gun control legislation. Are gun control advocates chemically creating psychotic mass murderers in order to further their case? A sheriff of the UCC area was a vocal opponent to gun control legislation, and then shortly later this happens as if in retribution.

    We should be testing for Scopolamine in any active shooter from now on, in the hair. If it’s possible to test previous active shooters for this substance, we should do that too.

  • IdPnSD

    It is again money (capitalism) vs human life. We have to decide what is important. Wars, poverty, terrorism, migration, pollution all are results money and money power. Remove money, all problems will be gone, including all gun violences. We do not need money to run an economy. The same economy that we have now can be maintained in the same way, without any kind of money. Take a look at https://theoryofsouls.wordpress.com/category/c-ch3-moneyless-economy/

  • Joseph A. Loerzel

    Good job on limiting your research with the word ‘mass’ but let’s try to stay with reality; so look up ‘mass shootings’ and you will see a different definition. The Uniform Crime Report and CDC says there is no specific number, but ‘multiple’ which accounts for the slaughter of the two heroes at the range.

    Nice try though 🙂

  • Joseph A. Loerzel

    And allow me to help you do proper research.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shooting

  • Flax Seed

    The FBI defines mass murder as murdering four or more persons during an event with no “cooling-off period” between the murders. – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_murder

    Yep, that’s 4, not 1.

  • Joseph A. Loerzel

    Let’s try this: Pretend Chris Kyle is one finger and Chad Littlefield is another. Do two fingers still equal one? The Uniform Crime Report uses the term ‘Multiple’ when reporting mass murders. But we’re getting down in the weeds with playing with numbers. Try Googling “Shooting incidents at gun ranges” and then let me know how safe they are.

    The range I use – between Eugene and Roseburg where the shooting took place – is a pretty safe place to shoot however; thanks to security.

  • soloinsing

    It’s been infringed upon since way back, lackwit. Are you able to purchase a functional tank? Are RPG’s available in your local gun shop? Can you own a nuke? Those are all arms that you aren’t legally allowed to own. So those are infringed upon. Let me ask you now: What part of infringed upon do you not understand? You smalldicked waste of a man…

  • qqrrsstt

    Something the U.S. left-wing media … NEVER talks about.

    Reminds me of the immigration debate a decade or so ago. On Spanish-language T.V. right here in the U.S. (TeleMundo, UniVision…), there were info-tainment shows (“Al Rojo Vivo”, to take one example) talking quite openly about Mexico kicking Guatemalans RIGHT BACK across the border, even while English-language stations were boo-hoo-hooing (via info-tainment shows) about the Poor Illegal Mexican.

    Today of course, Trump and others on the right have exposed the double standard of especially the Mexicans and their government: You Must Accept and Give Welfare To the Mexican Illegal! It Is A Human Right! While the Mexican federales are still, today and right now, planting their boot-prints on every Guatemalan @ss they run into.

    Hopefully sometime soon, maybe TRUMP (or some conservative outlet) will be publicizing the tight gun control laws accompanied by absolutely OUT-OF-CONTROL violence occurring right now in Central / South America, thus exposing the left’s lies about how effective “gun control” is. Regards.

  • palvadore

    And to think, the Mexican government has the nerve to tell Obama that America needs to further relax our immigration enforcement. The double standard is nauseating.

  • Mike in Illinois

    Sure, you are welcome to do so.

  • Mike in Illinois

    Sorry, but the attempt to claim it was choice, is nailed by facts. I guess you didn’t see the grey haired lady that runs the place eh? And you didn’t see the lawful concealed carrier nearby held away from action, partly by the policy in the building in question.

  • Mike in Illinois

    The killer is responsible but that doesn’t mean there isn’t responsibility for facilitating his actions. The gun free zone folks bear their own burden for forcing people to be defenseless.

    Why try to conflate the two as if there is only one person bearing all responsibility?

    The real shame is held by those refusing to relent before even the most basic truth. The free fire killing fields called gun free zones are imposed by folks who refuse to admit the failures those policies impose upon others. Those people are due shame – not me.

  • Mike in Illinois

    I blame republicans too, though sarcasm aside, because they refuse to stand up for the rights they are elected to uphold.
    🙂

  • Mike in Illinois

    Thanks Steve. I’ve been in this fight here a long time. I have witnessed the dirty double dealing and backstabbing that goes on in the advocacy department. I’ve stood up to it directly for a long time.

    I’ve learned along the way that one thing is missing – help from folks outside Illinois. For a very long time Illinoisans have been written off, as if we are all a lost cause or something. Media has tried to convince the rest of the country that being a illinosan means being a left wing zealot.

    But that isn’t the truth. Sure, there are some, but they are mostly confined to population centers – and the structure of state givernment is crafted to protect that angle.

    Thanks for noticing what you did! The more who realize Illinois is worth fighting for, the better!

  • I guess I’m a bit guilty from having poked fun at Illinois because of the highly vocal liberal left, but I cannot imagine the struggle it must have been for you guys to get such an ‘evil’ thing called CCW passed in your state. Having a CCW myself, I realize it’s importance and it’s vulnerability to left wing attacks.
    You are correct, we cannot forget the ‘fly over’ people in your great state who continually fight for their rights. I see now that by judging you by what goes on in Chicago is like judging us by what goes on in New Orleans. Both are great cities, but both are huge welfare holes populated by generations of welfare families and gun violence.

  • Mike in Illinois

    Steve, I have been guilty of the exact same thing…thinking I understand how a state is, when I really don’t understand.

    Obama is a huge example of what happens when we allow political correctness to divide us to the point we write off certain states. The problems here were allowed to fester to the point the cancer here made it’s way to the White House.

    That ought to be enough to show the rest of the country that writing Illinois off wasn’t such a good idea.

    What happened here with concealed carry is as evil as it gets, my friend. A permission slip structure was created where there was none – even as some states are finally abandoning the permission slip structure itself. We had the judicial remedy in hand! We had the offending code struck down – and that EXACT offending language was replaced word for word alongside an exception. An exception was the permission slip structure.

    In illinois, all carriage of all guns is once again prohibited. Any and all carriage is illegal. long guns, handguns no matter. Illegal. By default, all carriage is illegal. You are GUILTY of a crime if a cop sees you carrying until you prove yourself otherwise via a permission slip.

    The whole carry permit structure is absolutely backward. The law is backward.

    If we as a society are determined to make people carry plastic gun IDs, fine, make the proven criminals carry plastic IDs that ban them from access as a condition of their parole. Leave the rest of us alone to exercise our Natural Rights in peace.

    As it stands today. a person can join the elite political exempt class by paying hundreds of dollars for bogus training certificates and then hundreds more for finger printing and fees and then beg for permission from the other elites to carry a small allowed subsection of arms in some limited places and even then only in very restricted ways.

    We had no win here. Gun Controllers won here, big time. Is it at least possible for some people to carry some kinds of arms here sometimes in some places? Yes, if they pay the man enough, that is true. It really is quite pathetic in that, where a person really requires personal protection the absolute most, on the trains in chicago -they cannot. Most places needed most in Chicago, even the “exempt” cannot. its ridiculous.

    The vast majority of even registered owners (that is what our FOID card is- owner based registration) have rejected the idiocy of the “CCW Law” here and the numbers of owners versus the number of permits is clear. Millions versus a hundred thousand and change. More will trickle I suppose, but the numbers are what they are. And sadly, many folks who fought the fight simply walked away after what happened here, mainly because of who did what when.

    When the NRA lobbyist stands at a podium of a longstanding annual gathering and argues openly against Constitutional Carry at the very moment we had just WON exactly that in the court and all that was required was running out the clock, the proof is in the pudding as to who the real gun controllers are. Some find that uncomfortable, some choose to try to shoot the messenger on that note, some bury their heads in the sand about it all, but the truth remains regardless. They did what they did – and some of us will not just sweep it under the rug and pretend it didn’t go down as it went down. Some of us will Never Forget.

    However, as you awaken, as i awaken, as others awaken, to the tricks played upon us by those claiming to be our friends, our benefactors, our defenders, the truth slowly gurgles to the top for all to see.

    The criminal violence fomented by those playing tricks is starting to come back to bite them. It will move from biting to eating and that is happening to illinois as we speak. Unable to produce a budget, the time has come that they have to cut off those they fed… for so long. And the hunger will turn those bites to chomps. Ugliness approaches my friend, ugliness created a long time ago is about to manifest itself now. SO you keep your powder dry and keep on keeping it real. Steve, we are gonna win this fight, so long as we keep on fighting.

  • On many occasions, I’ve seen folks exercising their right to open carry here in Louisiana. It’s still a bit of a shock to see this display of courage in public. I spoken with a few of my law enforcement friends and they basically leave open carriers alone, unless someone files a complaint. Apparently, there’s been occasions where unarmed folks feel intimidated and call the police. Of course, the police respond and basically cannot do anything unless the open carrier was ‘brandishing’ or directly threatening someone. If I remember correctly, some have even been ticketed for something like ‘disburbing the peace’. In any event, I will only carry concealed. When you think of it, open carriers could be the first targets in a public act of violence leaving us CCW’s time to seek cover. In any event, best of luck to y’all.

  • dachshundsrule

    That is a bit of a stretch. Yes, we live in the information age, but even that does not account for the uptick in public violence. What may be new would be that the ones that are prone to violence anyway might see it on CNN and decide to act out because of it. Or we might be splitting hairs….

  • abcnewscensorscansuckit

    You know what, Stevie Dolly, you’re right. You ‘Rat voters are just too stupid to learn what I’m trying to teach you. I always back up any argument I posit with facts, unlike you sissy ‘Rat voters, who spew emotional pablum only. You’re all mentally 12 year-old girls that just started their periods. And you Regressive pigs always say the same thing when you know you’ve been had. You’re such bovine morons who all “think” alike. It’s amazing to behold, truth be told.

  • Steve Doll

    Backup with what? All you seem to know how to do is spew your labels and try to be condescending, which proves nothing, except for your lack of intelligence and your inability to hold a logical debate. Behold, truth be told.

  • Steve Doll

    And I hate to inform you of this because irrational close minded people can’t be reasoned with, but you have stated no facta, just rantings, which mean nothing

  • Klingon00

    The bottom line is that it is forbidden by the school rules regardless of the law. It doesn’t stop them from expelling or firing students and staff. Not even the security guard was armed.

  • JWood-the-other

    There is no up tic in violence. FBI Stats show violent crime has been decreasing every year for the last 10 and the average number of mas killings (4 people killed, not including the killer) year on year have not increased. It’s just a perception that there are more. What can I say?

  • abcnewscensorscansuckit

    I thought you said “goodbye,” stupid. You’re a masochist, aren’t you?

  • gformby

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GUN FREE ZONE! (Proved Again….this time at UUC in Roseburg, Or.)

  • dachshundsrule

    Indeed you are correct. My apologies, my mouth was moving faster than my brain. LOL, my Dad used to repeat an old axiom: “Always engage the brain before engaging your mouth” or something to that effect, seems I’d forgotten. Thank you for correcting me!

  • James Edward

    ty. no pc here.