Sandy Hook Dad: You`ll Have to Take My Guns “From My Cold Dead Hands” (Video)

Bill Stevens, whose daughter attended Sandy Hook Elementary school, testified before a Working Group Public Hearing at the Connecticut State Capitol on gun violence prevention. Mr. Stevens told the committee about his daughter’s 5th grade friend at the school,

“Unfortunately, her friend’s little sister was murdered in Sandy Hook that day when lock-down and 911 were not enough to protect her from an evil person… Charlton Heston made the phrase “From my cold dead hands” famous and I am here to tell you today, you will take my ability to protect my Victoria from my cold dead hands.”

Via The Examiner:

Hat Tip Mara

Mark Mattioli, a father of a Sandy Hook victim, also spoke out against gun control.

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  • Espresso Logic – The 6th Sense

    Do not give an inch.

    We do not need any new gun laws, registration, or confiscation.

    Molon Labe.

  • Sasja

    Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of the citizens to keep and bear arms. […] the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government and one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.

    — Hubert H. Humphrey, 1960

    May have seemed remote then, but it is upon us now.

    Molon Labe

  • MAJMike

    Well said.

    Its not about hunting. Its about the ability to resist an abusive government. The Gun-Fearing Wussies will never understand.

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  • cavt

    Exactly–

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  • Kate

    “Charlton Heston made the phrase “From my cold dead hands” famous and I am here to tell you today, you will take my ability to protect my Victoria from my cold dead hands.”

    Amen to that.

  • Bigkahuna

    But but but all sandy hook people want total gun bans and no security in schools and illegal immigrants everywhere.

  • http://israelsurvivalupdates.com Kenny Solomon

    ……from his and our cold dead hands.

    ……which is exactly what the Totalitarians want to happen.

    ……and will ‘nudge’ into being when their time is right.

    Tool up.

    It’s coming.

  • Joe

    IO heard a story about our rights to keep and bear. I’ll shorten it a bit.
    We had a nice warm pie. We compromised years ago and the gun grabbers took half the pie. We had half a pie. then we had to compromise again and lost half of our half to the Brady Bunch. The grabbers have 3/4 of our once whole pie and we have 1/4 left. Now they want half of what we have left.

  • Noovuss

    Molon Labe, period…

  • Jaynie59

    I love the part where he said our rights come from our Creator and not from “you politicians”. His whole attitude was just great. He had nothing but disdain and contempt for the panel he was sitting before because they don’t rule over us. They need to be reminded of that again and again.

    This whole idea that conservatives need to be polite and stick to the issues is infuriating to me. Take every opportunity, ANY opportunity, to cut these people down to size. It’s We The People, and as much as Barack Obama wants that the mean We The Government, we can never let that narrative take hold.

    FU #WAR

  • lincolon’s rectum

    I like lying about confiscating guns, just like leslie enjoys posting stories about accidental gun shootings. Protecting yourself is so passe, especially if you live in a gated community. Fortunately, those with the ability to live securely, or can afford private protection, i.e., pay for someone to carry a gun for you, pass judgement on those who can’t. See how easily my logic prevails?

  • Joel

    Wow. ‘Bout time.

  • Monkey Wrench

    If this guy really loves his daughter, why did he send her to a gun-free school? His daughter got lucky, no thanks to her dad.

  • Sasja

    Do trolls know how stupid they are?

  • Bigkahuna

    Monkey… Choice. Deal with it turd burglar.

  • Amalgamated Cliff Divers, Local 157

    Sasja, trolls feel they fill an important role on the interwebz. Actually, it’s just mental masturbation, and the probable cause is parental abandonement issues. A lack of attention in their formative years has tragically lead people like monkey spank to mistakenly believe its opinion is fact.

  • Justa Guy

    >>MAJMike commented:
    Well said.

    Its not about hunting. Its about the ability to resist an abusive government. The Gun-Fearing Wussies will never understand.<<

    No, they understand exactly what they are doing. However, being wussies, they don't have the balls to fight us, so they want to disarm us, then have their armed minions suppress the rest of our rights.

  • MAJMike

    @19 — Agree.

  • Petparker99

    Yes…it is amazing that celebrities (with armed guards) who make money acting in movies that fire off almost infinite numbers of guns are teamed up with politicians (also protected by armed guards or who have themselves acquired concealed carry permits for self-protection a la Feinstein) to deprive the rest of us common citizens the same right to self-preservation against harm.

    The left is totally and utterly evil. Period.

  • B.O. don’t know diddley squat

    I don’t watch the Socialist news,I’ll just assume it won’t make their broadcast
    At least not until MSLSD can “edit” the video correctly

    Nothing on Yahoo’s main page(holding breath)..sarc

  • shadow

    Charlton Heston made the phrase “From my cold dead hands” famous

    My only question is, who got to do the prying?

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  • shadow

    We compromised years ago and the gun grabbers took half the pie.
    What half is that? Fully-automatic weapons? Would you want them back in public circulation?

    We had half a pie. then we had to compromise again and lost half of our half to the Brady Bunch.
    What provisions of the Brady Bill would you repeal? Background checks? Denying guns to felons, addicts, illegal aliens and people with restraining orders?

  • patriot

    #28 February 4, 2013 at 12:02 pm
    shadow commented:

    Charlton Heston made the phrase “From my cold dead hands” famous

    My only question is, who got to do the prying?
    ****************

    So far, nobody has had the nuts to try it shadow. When and if they do, I can guarantee you one thing … it won’t be YOU taking them sphincter boy … you’ll be cowering in fear in your mommie’s basement with Leslie and Lincoln’s Weirdo.

  • shadow

    This whole idea that conservatives need to be polite and stick to the issues is infuriating to me

    Yeah, why would we want them to stick to the issues? After all, we elected them to go off on tangents and make a mockery of the democratic process. If they can’t do it, we will find some good conservatives who can. /sarc

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  • sha-doo-doo

    My twinkiness has made it impossible to understand the main point about Sandy Hook—gun control wouldn’t have prevented the tragedy. And since I’m behind the Biden curve in that realization, I’m probably two standard deviations below the norm on the bell curve. I blame my mom for not taking care of the problem prior to my birth.

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

    ++

    January 28, 2013

    The Problem Is Not Gun Laws’: Watch the Emotional Speech
    by a Sandy Hook Victim’s Dad That Got a Standing Ovation..

    [The grieving father, who ended up receiving a standing ovation, said
    that he believes in “simple, few gun laws” and that there are already
    “more than enough on the books.” Mattioli contends that “the problem
    is not gun laws” and that these regulations simply need to be enforced.
    ]

    ==

  • sha-doo-doo

    Oh, forgot the /notsarc tag.

  • Kate

    We shouldn’t feed the trolls. Let them go elsewhere to get their munchies, vile little things that they are.

  • shadow

    My only question is, who got to do the prying?
    ****************

    So far, nobody has had the nuts to try it shadow.

    So they buried him with his “gun” in his hand? That must have surely impressed Saint Peter (if he went that way).

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

    ++

    i can’t help but notice that with the re-advent of jharp and
    shadow, they have become, as Obama always is, the issue,
    not about the issues.. iow: bait & switch, detract & distract,
    identity usurping straw men, sacrificing their anony reps on
    the alter of laughter and disdain for the good of the state of
    the one government under Obama, but alas i exaggerate.. :roll:

    ==

  • shadow

    We shouldn’t feed the trolls. Let them go elsewhere to get their munchies, vile little things that they are.

    Yes, it is vile to hold an opinion that differs from yours. Perhaps when you guys take over control of government, you can make that sort of thing illegal.

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    re: #35 February 4, 2013 at 12:32 pm bg

    January 31, 2013

    1,100 Green Berets set record straight on guns

    [“In contrast, in 2009 (5 years after the Federal Assault Weapons Ban
    expired) total firearm related homicides in the U.S. declined by 9 percent
    from the 2005 high,” the letter says, citing FBI statistics.

    Since gun bans don’t really impact violence, what is the issue at hand?

    “The purpose of the Second Amendment is to secure our ability to oppose
    enemies foreign and domestic, a guarantee against disorder and tyranny,”
    the Green Berets say.

    “Throughout history, disarming the populace has always preceded tyrants’
    accession of power. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao all disarmed their citizens prior
    to installing their murderous regimes. At the beginning of our own nation’s
    revolution, one of the first moves made by the British government was an
    attempt to disarm our citizens. When our Founding Fathers ensured that
    the Second Amendment was made a part of our Constitution, they were
    not just wasting ink. They were acting to ensure our present security was
    never forcibly endangered by tyrants, foreign or domestic.”

    But school shootings are horrible and need to be addressed, they write.

    “First, it is important that we recognize that this is not a gun control
    problem; it is a complex sociological problem. No single course of
    action will solve the problem.”

    The military veterans say local schools
    should make their own decisions and plans.

    “Most recently the Cleburne Independent School District will become the
    first district in North Texas to consider allowing some teachers to carry
    concealed guns. We do not opine as to the appropriateness of this decision,
    but we do support their right to make this decision for themselves.”

    Further, those individuals with diagnosed conditions that impact their
    ability to make decisions can be addressed with programs of treatment.

    “In each of these mass shooting incidents the perpetrator
    was mentally unstable,” the Green Berets says

    Firearms safety programs in schools could help, and a repeal of laws
    making them gun-free zones should be considered by local officials.

    Also, the violence in video games needs to be addressed.

    “”War and war-like behavior should not be glorified. Hollywood and video
    game producers are exploiting something they know nothing about. General
    Sherman famously said, ‘War is hell!’ Leave war to the professionals,’” the
    letter says

    “This is our country, these are our rights. We believe that it is time that we
    take personal responsibility for our choices and actions rather than abdicate
    that responsibility to someone else under the illusion that we have done
    something that will make us all safer.

    We have a responsibility to stand by our principles and act in accordance
    with them. Our children are watching and they will follow the example we
    set,” they write.
    [much more at link]

    God Bless, Godspeed & Thank You Dear Troops..

    ==

  • Justa Guy

    >>
    shadow commented:

    We compromised years ago and the gun grabbers took half the pie.
    What half is that? Fully-automatic weapons? Would you want them back in public circulation?

    We had half a pie. then we had to compromise again and lost half of our half to the Brady Bunch.
    What provisions of the Brady Bill would you repeal? Background checks? Denying guns to felons, addicts, illegal aliens and people with restraining orders?

    (1) Yes. Along with short barreled rifles and shotguns. Full auto is hard to control, and hasn’t been used in crime since the gangster days. Short rifles and shotguns can now be made by simply designating them pistols when manufactured, so what’s the beef?

    (2) Some of what you mention is Gun Control Act of 1968, not Brady, but still, repeal it. Infringement is infringement, and not allowed under the Constitution.

    Get rid of all violent felons w/ public executions, bring back hard labor for the non-violent ones, after, of course, wiping silly laws from the books that make felons out of just about anyone. Then you will see a serious reduction in crime, as more are repeat offenders, and we’ll spend a lot less $$ on keeping the a-holes in prison.

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    February 4, 2013

    Department of Homeland Stupidity: Huddle like Sheep and Die

    [The Department of Homeland Security just posted a video called “Options
    for Consideration Active Shooter Training Video.” Its grossly incompetent
    guidance on how to survive a workplace shooting underscores the Obama
    administration’s total lack of fitness to tell citizens what kind of firearms
    they can own for self-protection. We should also make sure that as many
    police as possible see this DHS video, which portrays law enforcement
    professionals as incompetent buffoons who recklessly endanger their
    partners and innocent bystanders.]

    ==

  • SomethingWicked

    I am not a religious fanatic. I don’t attend church but do respect those that have that dedication. While I do normally vote Republican I am usually not so much voting for a candidate as I am voting against the policies of the Democratic party. I am financially conservative and socially liberal to the extent that if what you do only affects you (and I don’t have to financially support you) then I’m pretty much okay with it. I’m well educated with an advanced degree. . I earn a decent living. In short I’m a pretty reasonable middle-of-the-road kind of guy. But to those who wish to ban/confiscate weapons they deem undesirable. Please listen and understand. I will NOT voluntarily surrender my weapons, and I strongly suggest you not try to take them by force.

  • patriot

    shadow commented:

    “Yes, it is vile to hold an opinion that differs from yours. Perhaps when you guys take over control of government, you can make that sort of thing illegal…”

    Hey numbnuts, have you ever bothered to notice that only right wing sites like this one will allow you to troll every day like you do without getting BANNED? The rude, arrogant behavior and endless propagandizing that you employ EVERY DAY here is routinely banned at nearly EVERY ONE of the popular left wing sites, and even places like Facebook have started censoring the conservative and religious content they deem “objectionable”. So, don’t get your panties in a bunch just because someone WISHES you weren’t trolling here. At least your BS is ALLOWED here.

    I’m curious. Have you ever even bothered to THANK Mr. Hoft for his tolerance and respect for your first amendment rights? No, I didn’t think so … you’re too much of an arrogant jerk to ever show any appreciation for anything. We fight for your rights, while morons like you censor US, and fight to support the tyrants who are trying to take our rights away. Pathetic …

    Shadow, I know you’re hoping to get a pat on the back or a bone tossed your way for stabbing your fellow citizens in the back, but do you really hate us so much that you’d sell your own country down the river just to see a few of us suffer?

  • patriot

    #45 – Rest assured, we’ve got your back my friend …

  • shadow

    (1) Yes. Along with short barreled rifles and shotguns. Full auto is hard to control, and hasn’t been used in crime since the gangster days.

    Could that have something to do with the National Firearms Act of 1934?

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    patriot #51 February 4, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    Amen..

    ==

  • shadow

    Hey numbnuts, have you ever bothered to notice that only right wing sites like this one will allow you to troll every day like you do without getting BANNED?

    If you had any idea what trolling is, you might understand the difference.

    Here’s a definition to work with: In Internet slang, a troll (pron.: /ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is someone who posts inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

    Whereas, I merely present an alternate point of view or try to get prople to think about the opinions that they hold. Of course, some people respond emotionally any time their opinion is question. But that is not the fault of the person doing the questioning. And it surely doesn’t make that person a troll. But I guess labeling them so makes it easier to dismiss what they have to say without actually thinking about it.

    Oh, and a list of all those sites that don’t allow opposing POVs in their comment section would be appreciated.

  • Lincoln’s widow

    “We fight for your rights, while morons like you censor US, and fight to support the tyrants who are trying to take our rights away. Pathetic …””

    Harhar no one can accuse the rwnj here of not being emotionally dramatic. For your information, the blog owner should says thanks to the LW here that increase his traffic. Its all about the $$, treasonous patriot. Even my pal highlander figured that out. Do you ever see the blogmeister comment to the peanut gallery? Someone needs to shine the light of truth in this paranoid pack of cave dwellers. We are seeking out those who conspire to see the US fail and this cesspool is ripe with turd blossoms.

    You are a little slow on the uptake eh.

  • Flintstone F.

    Don’t feed the trolls. Smother them:
    (Great read)

    http://kontradictions.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/why-not-renew-the-assault-weapons-ban-well-ill-tell-you/

    It’s not easy being a leftist who loves guns. It’s like being a Republican who listens to NPR or supports single payer health care. But being a leftist, I get exposed to all the liberal publications and media that invariably call for gun control every time someone does something stupid with one. Being a gun enthusiast, I also get exposed to the political Right’s oversimplification of those liberals as somehow lacking moral fiber or true appreciation of freedom.

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    September 27, 2004

    The Assault Weapon Ruse

    [Contrary to what the ad clearly implies, any weapon that can fire 300 rounds per minute remains illegal for civilians to own without specific clearance by the US Department of Justice.

    In fact, machine guns have been tightly regulated since the passage of the National Firearms Act in 1934, in the wake of the gangster era. Legal ownership of a machine gun requires an extensive federal background check, fingerprinting, signed clearance from the chief of local law enforcement (such as a county sheriff), a $200 excise tax, and weeks of paperwork. That was true before the assault-weapon ban was enacted in 1994, and it remains true with the expiration of the ban at midnight Sept. 13, 2004.

    That’s made clear in a question-and-answer document posted Sept.
    13 on the Web site of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and
    Explosives (ATF), explaining the effect of the expiration of the assault
    -weapon ban:

    ATF: All provisions of the National Firearms Act (NFA) relating
    to registration and transfer of machine guns . . . still apply.

    The fully automatic version of the AK47 — pictured and described
    in the ad — remains just as illegal as it was before the ban expired.

    But it is also a fact that Bush was publicly committed to sign
    an extension if Congress passed it, and it was Congress that
    failed to do so.]

    more here and here..

    ==

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  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    re: #41 February 4, 2013 at 1:03 pm bg

    imho, worth repeating..

    [“In contrast, in 2009 (5 years after the Federal Assault Weapons Ban
    expired) total firearm related homicides in the U.S. declined by 9 percent
    from the 2005 high,” the letter says, citing FBI statistics.

    Since gun bans don’t really impact violence, what is the issue at hand?

    “The purpose of the Second Amendment is to secure our ability to oppose
    enemies foreign and domestic, a guarantee against disorder and tyranny,”
    the Green Berets say.

    “Throughout history, disarming the populace has always preceded tyrants’
    accession of power. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao all disarmed their citizens prior
    to installing their murderous regimes. At the beginning of our own nation’s
    revolution, one of the first moves made by the British government was an
    attempt to disarm our citizens. When our Founding Fathers ensured that
    the Second Amendment was made a part of our Constitution, they were
    not just wasting ink. They were acting to ensure our present security was
    never forcibly endangered by tyrants, foreign or domestic.”]

    ==

  • lincoln’s rectum

    I needs to help people out with correct thinking. I call other people paranoid while labelling others that I don’t know treasonous. It’s deliciously hypocritical. Other than that, I gots noffin’.

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    January 3, 2013

    State fights back against feds on guns

    January 4, 2013

    Now federal gov’t urged to patrol streets

    yes it’s bad, but as bad as it is, stats show it’s been getting better, ergo,
    are they lying in order to try and pump up their gun grab, or worse yet..
    use as a reason to declare (the testing of) Martial Law??

    ==

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  • shadow

    It’s not easy being a leftist who loves guns.

    I’ve never had an issue. I’ve even brought some of my “leftist” friends to the local gun range. And while I agree with most of what the link had to say, we part ways when it comes to XL mags. If there is no benefit for someone committing a crime, how is there a benefit for someone protecting themselves from one? The logic just doesn’t wash.

  • shadow

    lincoln’s rectum

    And you call US the trolls. /sigh/

  • sha-doo-doo

    XL mags create criminals. It’s inevitable! Don’t do it!

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

    ++

    [If there is no benefit for someone committing a crime, how
    is there a benefit for someone protecting themselves from
    one?
    The logic just doesn’t wash.]

    ROTF 😆 MBO!! ROTF 😆 MBO!! ROTF 😆 MBO!!
    ROTF 😆 MBO!! ROTF 😆 MBO!! ROTF 😆 MBO!!
    ROTF 😆 MBO!! ROTF 😆 MBO!! ROTF 😆 MBO!!

    ==

  • Flintstone F.

    #65

    Because a young mom at home protecting her kids being attacked by several assailants might want to have more than enough bullets to get the job done.

    You couldn’t possibly claim to know how to determine the number of bullets a person would use in a frantic situation when they are fighting for their life. And the gun legislation is in response to criminal behavior and illegal use of guns, it shouldn’t be about limiting a person’s ability to protect their family.

    How many bullets would you need? It depends on what the situation is. You better have one more bullet than one too few. Tying the hands of law abiding citizens is the wrong way to attack crime. Did you read the part where a person can carry 19 magazines with 10 bullets each? The point was that limiting magazine size is not effective. Did you read the part where the studies showed the previous ban didn’t prevent crime? It’s because criminals will break the law to get what they need.

  • sha-doo-doo

    Logic, bg? You’re kidding, right?

  • Jeffery

    Some 32,000 Americans died from firearms in 2011: 11,000 homicides, 20,000 suicides and 1000 accidental deaths.

    Common sense restrictions on firearms are OK aren’t they? We limit access to rocket launchers, fully automatic weapons, grenades and land mines. Do the punditista object to these limitations? Do these limits warrant armed rebellion? If not, than why would restriction of magazine size lead to revolution?

  • Jeffery

    And for the record, Mr. Hoft absolutely does ban commenters. While the comment sections are more widely open now, this will be corrected before long.

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    sha-doo-doo #70 February 4, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    you doubt what the shadow says?? 😆

    ==

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  • Patty

    HOORAY!!

  • Patty

    http://www.numberofabortions.com/

    Now let’s talk murders

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    Jeffery #76 February 4, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    links please,

    thankyouverymuch..

    oh btw.. :-(

    2009 Drunk Driving Statistics

    [In 2009, a total of 1,314 children age 14 and younger were killed in motor
    vehicle traffic crashes. Of those 1,314 fatalities, 181 (14%) occurred in
    alcohol-impaired driving crashes. Out of those 181 deaths, 92 (51%) were
    occupants of a vehicle with a driver who had a BAC level of .08 or higher,
    and another 27 children (15%) were pedestrians or pedalcyclists struck by
    drivers with a BAC of .08 or higher.]

    December 13, 2012

    2011 Drunk Driving Fatalities by State

    ==

    [Every day, almost 30 people in the United States die in motor vehicle
    crashes that involve an alcohol-impaired driver. This amounts to one death
    every 48 minutes.1 The annual cost of alcohol-related crashes totals more
    than $51 billion.2]

    ==

  • Patty

    http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

    Now, there is so much information on Gun Control and Laws already on the books.

    For all those innocent victims that have been taken from us, it pains me.

    But all the time we have wasted, especially the gun ban groups and Washington. LAWS ARE ON THE BOOKS. JUST ENFORCE THEM AND PLEASE CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE AND CALMLY GET THINGS OFF YOUR CHEST, ONCE AND FOR ALL.

    Enforce the rules that are already on the books, we have bigger problems in this nation, we are in an Economic Crisis.

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    February 1, 2013

    Newtown Sides with NRA: Votes for Armed Guards In Schools

    [Meanwhile, in Democrat-run Chicago, there’s a Newtown every month.
    But the only solution to that problem would be admitting harsh gun
    control laws and liberalism run amok have failed. So the media would
    rather Chicago’s monthly Sandy Hook goes on than ever admit to such
    an inconvenient truth.

    The NRA proposed putting armed guns in schools, and
    now the school board closest to this tragedy agrees.

    Keep laughing and ignoring Chicago, media.
    You’re only fooling your corrupt selves.]

    ==

  • Patty

    Most Shooters In Chicago Don’t Face Charges

    It’s getting easier to get away with shooting people in Chicago.

    Last year, gunmen who shot and wounded someone got away without criminal charges 94 percent of the time, according to a DNAinfo.com Chicago analysis of police data.

    That’s even worse than 2011, when 91.5 percent of shooters escaped charges, according to the data.

    Chicago’s top cop said the “no-snitch” code of silence on the street is the biggest contributor in his department’s struggle to charge shooters.

    “The challenges we have to get charges in a significant number of cases is very difficult when witnesses and victims choose not to cooperate,” Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy said in an interview with DNAinfo.com Chicago.

    “To make cases prosecutable we need cooperative witnesses — and those go out the window right up front. We have a victim today who is an offender tomorrow. It’s a vicious circle. There are a lot of people who are not going to cooperate,” he said. “That’s why we have to take on the no-snitch issue.”

    In 2012, Chicago police cleared 211 aggravated battery with a firearm cases — 11 percent of the 1,893 incidents where someone was shot and wounded during the calendar year.

    But of those cases, only 111 shootings — about 6 percent — resulted in charges. The other 100 cases were “cleared exceptionally,” which means police know who the shooter is but were unable to bring charges, the state’s attorney wouldn’t bring charges, a victim refused to testify after identifying a shooter or the offender was dead.
    [………………..]
    Read more: http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20130124/chicago/most-shooters-chicago-dont-face-charges#ixzz2JzOSaep5

    Informative, possibly but the no snitch rule among felons or gangs, whatever. It is so amazing that things have gotten so bad in Chicago a city with more gun laws and regulations than any other.

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  • Patty

    #84 February 4, 2013 at 8:50 pm
    bg commented:

    Wonderful news and all schools should do the same. There are many retired and on duty officers who would love to guard our schools.

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    Patty #87 February 4, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    yes it is, and albeit will truly help, it won’t stop the crazies.. :-(
    which is really where they need to spend a considerable length
    of time delving into solutions, never mind educating themselves
    before they make any more “laws” (there are *over 22,000 gun
    laws as it is), and thank you for the #81 & #83 links..

    not to mention the PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS, gah!!

    [Suicide, Violence Link Hidden by Big Pharma

    In 2005, it was found that link between Prozac and suicidal behavior
    was kept a secret. The BBC even reported in as early as the year 2000
    that Prozac ‘led to suicide’. Oftentimes killers will end their own lives after
    shootings, or attempt to force the cops to kill them. This is essentially
    a form of suicide with a mixture of murderous tendencies.

    If Prozac can drive someone to suicide, could it also drive someone to
    end someone else’s life? Paxil, an anti-depressant drug, was found to
    be linked to violent behavior in 2006. The link incited multiple lawsuits,
    and brings up questions as to whether or not similar drugs have the
    same effects. Anti-depressants have horrible side effects, but about
    the even more hardcore drugs, such as the drugs that many of the
    other killers were taking? These psychotropics may have been the final
    straw in pushing Lanza and others over the edge, the final push that
    they needed to go through with the horrendous act.]

    January 22, 2013

    Top psychiatrist: Meds behind school massacres

    [Psychotropic drugs “prescribed for school
    children cause violent behavior,” Healy stated.

    The drugs are widely used in the U.S. as antidepressants by
    doctors working in the mental health field and increasingly by
    primary care doctors, he noted.

    Healey insisted the problem today is that doctors working with schools
    to control the behavior of children are inclined to prescribe SSRI drugs
    without serious consideration of adverse consequences.

    “The pharmaceutical companies made these drugs with the idea of
    making money,” he said. “There’s a wide range of problems when it
    comes to looking at these drugs for children. Very few children have
    serious problems that warrant treatment with pills that have the risks
    SSRI drugs have.”]

    more at link..

    Liar Obama & Big Pharma 😡

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  • shadow

    XL mags create criminals. It’s inevitable! Don’t do it!

    Translation: “I got nuthin'”

  • shadow

    ROTF MBO!!

    I surmise that is in lieu of an intelligent response?

  • shadow

    Because a young mom at home protecting her kids being attacked by several assailants might want to have more than enough bullets to get the job done.

    So then you disagree with the link you posted? He claimed that there was no difference between having a 30-round magazine and having two 15-round magazines. Or does that only apply to those who will do us harm?

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

    ++

    shadow #91 February 4, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    you mean this??

    [If there is no benefit for someone committing a crime, how
    is there a benefit for someone protecting themselves from
    one?
    The logic just doesn’t wash.]

    ROTF 😆 MBO!! ROTF 😆 MBO!! ROTF 😆 MBO!!
    ROTF 😆 MBO!! ROTF 😆 MBO!! ROTF 😆 MBO!!
    ROTF 😆 MBO!! ROTF 😆 MBO!! ROTF 😆 MBO!!

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  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

    ++

    re: #84 February 4, 2013 at 8:50 pm bg

    in case anyone is still getting those faux virus warnings
    (mine stopped) for Breitbarts, here’s a few other links..

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  • Highlander

    shadow, we are well aware of what constitutes a troll, and you are textbook.

    meanwhile, Jeffery commented:

    “Some 32,000 Americans died from firearms in 2011: 11,000 homicides, 20,000 suicides and 1000 accidental deaths”

    So, let’s examine those numbers Jeffie …

    First of all, nearly TWICE as many people used a gun to kill THEMSELVES as used a gun to kill someone else. So, to put that in perspective, you’re almost twice as likely to take your own life with a gun as you are to get killed by someone else with one. So, I ask you … if you’re one of those people who would NEVER EVEN CONSIDER killing yourself, it seems to me that your chances of ever being shot by someone else are pretty damn slim, aren’t they? You’re going to be killed in a car way sooner than you’re going to die the victim of a shooting, especially if you aren’t a member of one of the problem socio-economic classes prone to gun violence. For the most part, they are running around shooting themselves …

    You ARE, however, far more likely to protect yourself or someone else from a violent crime and live to talk about it if you happen to own and/or carry a firearm for personal protection … that seems like a no-brainer to me.

    Secondly, and this one is really for Leslie, the accident freak … 1000 accidental deaths per year, in a country of 300 million people? That has you hysterically posting comments on right-wing blogs? Seriously? More people die cleaning their gutters or mowing their lawns…

    Face it. You people are ridiculous. You don’t have a leg to stand on, and you know it. This is all about a political or ideological agenda … it’s not about safety or protecting the innocent, and you’re not fooling anyone by saying that it is.

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  • Jeffery

    Highlander,

    Thanks for your thoughtful response. I do not find you or your positions ridiculous, I only wish to understand. I was not advocating gun control, only supplying statistics. Personally, I do not think gun control will work unless you ban all guns, which will never happen, because it would be unconstitutional.

    My questions about the laws we do have now, restricting full automatic guns, grenades etc is to find out where the line is between acceptable and unacceptable limits.

    Do you (and others) find the restrictions on machine guns to violate the 2nd Amendment?

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  • SomethingWicked

    I got these statistics from the CDC.gov

    Homicides:
    Total 16249
    By firearm 11078

    Suicides
    Total 38364
    By Firearm 19392

    I think it is reasonable to assume that if someone is determined to commit suicide and they do not have a firearm they will find another method (as about half of them already do). While I don’t have actual numbers I suspect nearly NO suicides are committed with AR style weapons. I say this because in most cases people who own AR type weapons also own handguns and it is a hell of a lot easier to shoot yourself with a handgun then a rifle. Also if they do commit suicide with an AR, I don’t think magazine size is a factor. So we can remove suicide from this discussion, it just a red herring to muddy the statistics.
    We can also see that, while firearms is the preferred method of Homicide, there are still many other viable methods. For the most part there are very few people advocating the total elimination of firearms. What they do want to do is eliminate AR type weapons or ‘extended magazines’ however, AR type weapons only account for about 1% of homicides (about 2% of fire arm shootings over all) So if we totally eliminate AR style weapons we possibly eliminate 1100 homicides out of the over 16,000 homicides committed, and this is assuming that the people that commit homicides with AR style weapons would not (like the other 15,000 people do) find another method to commit homicides. I’m not saying that 1100 is insignificant, but it would seem if you want to help society your energy would be better spent trying to help those 38,000 + people committing suicides, maybe by, I don’t know, improving the economy so they can find a job!

    Oh, on the need for “high capacity magazines” The standard magazine size sold with an AR is 30 rounds, so I would say this is not “high capacity” it is normal capacity. When I go to the range I am allotted 1 hour shooting time. Call me a wimp (at 6’3 225lbs I would not recommend you do it to my face however) but loading AR magazines is difficult and time consuming. If you ad up the time to reload magazines, examine shots through the spotting scope, go down range to retrieve/replace targets etc, I already only get off about 100 shots in an hour’s time. Reduce the magazine size to 10 and I’ll be lucky to get off 50. Shooting is the fun part of sport shooting. If I really thought reducing magazine size would save hundreds of lives I’d be willing to accept it, or at least consider it, but its just not a reasonable assumption. It takes less then 2 seconds for me to eject a magazine and load a new one. If I were bent on mayhem I would have a dozen or so with me. Even at 10 rounds that over 100 shots. If I were concerned that someone one would “rush me” while reloading, I’d leave the last round chambered while I reloaded or have a side arm. Reducing magazine size will not have any affect on someone bent on destruction, It will just inconvenience sport shooters and make people who have stocked up on larger magazines a little more wealthy when they sell them. It may also promote smuggling of magazines in from other countries and the criminal element associated with it.

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  • LTodd

    God Bless him!

  • OpposingVue

    Pardon me, but aren’t you being inaccurate here? You describe the man speaking as a “Sandy Hook father” when it appears that he is not. The only thing that he says in the video is that the sister of his daughter’s classmate was a Sandy Hook victim. That is not the same thing in the least as saying that he himself is the father of a Sandy Hook student.