NRA Chief LaPierre: You Can’t Trust This White House (Video)

Chief Executive of the NRA, Wayne LaPierre, told Chris Wallace today on FOX News Sunday that you can’t trust this White House:

Chris Wallace: There’s no indication. There’s nothing anyone in this administration has said taht indicates they’re going to have a (gun) registry.

Wayne LaPierre: “And ‘ObamaCare’ wasn’t a tax until they needed it to be a tax. I don’t think you can trust these people.

Good point.

The Hill has more on LaPierre’s comments.

When pressed by host Chris Wallace on the fact that the White House has said nothing about a universal registry, LaPierre responded, “And ‘ObamaCare’ wasn’t a tax until they needed it to be a tax. I don’t think you can trust these people.

LaPierre was referring to the administration arguing the healthcare law amounts to a tax before the Supreme Court — an argument the high court agreed with in upholding the individual-mandate portion of the law as a valid use of taxing power.

On Sunday, LaPierre continued his efforts to stem momentum for new gun-control legislation in the wake of the school shooting in Newtown, Conn. He contended that a universal background check would not be workable, in part because of the lack of digitized mental health records and the fact that criminals would not seek out guns in that fashion.

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  • jharp

    Let’s hope the gun registry turns out exactly like the ObamaCare tax.

    In place and the law of the land.

    Best President since FDR.

  • CT

    Fox News Sunday [February 3, 2013]
    Just watched Chris Mathews…ah…Wallace’s non-stop attack on Wayne LaPierre with spurious arguments and false charges. Wallace was in full Tingles mode interrupting attacking and inferring inaccurate positions and false motives to anything LaPierre had to say. This attempted hatchet job has only cut Wallace’s reputation if ever ‘Fair and Balanced’ is now permanently scared.

  • Jeffery

    Criticism from Wayne LaPierre? Most decent Americans would be pleased to be criticized by this blow-dried, blowhard lobbyist for the gun manufacturers. In 2011 we had about 32,000 gun deaths in the US: 11,000 homicides, 20,000 suicides, 1000 accidental deaths. This is approximately 10 9/11’s every year. Isn’t reducing this number worthy of at least some discussion?

    Limiting magazine size will not lead to confiscation of shotguns and hunting rifles. Universal background checks will not stop legitimate handgun purchases.

    Mr. LaPierre sells guns for a living, so of course he opposes any constraints.

  • jharp

    #2 February 3, 2013 at 10:37 am
    CT commented:
    #2 February 3, 2013 at 10:37 am
    CT commented:

    Fox News Sunday [February 3, 2013]
    “Just watched Chris Mathews…ah…Wallace’s non-stop attack on Wayne LaPierre with spurious arguments and false charges. Wallace was in full Tingles mode interrupting attacking and inferring inaccurate positions and false motives to anything LaPierre had to say.”

    When you’ve lost Fox News you’ve really hit bottom.

    “This attempted hatchet job has only cut Wallace’s reputation if ever ‘Fair and Balanced’ is now permanently scared.”

    Fair and balanced? You have got to be kidding. You have not yet hit bottom. A couple of terms of Hillary Clinton will do it I’m sure.

  • Durpadurp

    Shut up Jeffery.

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  • Durpadurp

    Jhard, you want our guns, come and take them yourself.

  • http://www.rantburg.com/ Frank G

    Molon Labe, Jharp

  • shukov

    “I don’t think you can trust these people.”

    They can be trusted to promote their communist scheme — Outside of that only a fool would trust these people.

  • Durpadurp

    Stupid leftists are a danger to the state. Even if 10% gun owners refuse to given up their arms, thats over 800,000 people. Civil war will erupt.

  • jharp

    #7 February 3, 2013 at 10:46 am
    Durpadurp commented:

    “Jhard, you want our guns, come and take them yourself.”

    I don’t want your guns. I just don’t want you to have them.

    And why would I want to trouble myself traveling all that way to get one persons guns when we have President Obama who can take all of the dangerous guns away?

    It would be silly for me to do that.

  • jharp

    #7 February 3, 2013 at 10:46 am
    Durpadurp commented:

    “Jhard, you want our guns, come and take them yourself.”

    I don’t “want” your guns. I just don’t want you to have them.

    And why would I trouble myself to go get one persons guns when we have President Obama who can take all of the dangerous guns off the streets with one piece of legislation?

    It would be silly for me to do that.

  • jharp

    #10 February 3, 2013 at 10:53 am
    Durpadurp commented:

    “Stupid leftists are a danger to the state. Even if 10% gun owners refuse to given up their arms, thats over 800,000 people. Civil war will erupt.”

    And you’ll be in jail by the of the day. Or dead.

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    re: “I don’t think you can trust these people.” ~ WLP

    BS.. /s/

    “we know we can’t trust those people, all of them, period.” ~ bg

    re GP: having numerous tech problems..

    ==

  • CT

    Time for jturd removal.

  • Durpadurp

    What piece of legislation would that be jharp? And did you just threaten my life?

  • bigkahuna

    Jharp…Typ liberal. Lie about obamacare cost, whats in it, what it will do and use bribes and lies to get it passed. Yeah l;ets do that for all bills. What could possibly go wrong.

    What a complete moron. Obama worst President in history. Liar in Chief, Teleprompter reader in Chief, Law breaker in Chief, divider in chief. Biggest SOB ever to set foot in whitehouse. Least qualified in chief ever. History will show him to quite possibly have brought down the USA or close to it.

    Jharp you never address the failures and lies of liberals but whine alot.

    Wayne was right.

    They lied in 86 with amnesty and said that was it. Then Obama granted amnesty with dream act illegally. Obama lied to our face on TV swearing to Georgey Stephy saying Georage…IT IS NOT A TAX…Its a fee…until it has to be a tax or be repealed as unconstitutional.

    You can not ever trust a liberal. They lie about everything and anything to take power and your freeeedoms away.

    Hey its just a smoking ban in public buildings….

    Hey its just a ban on big sodas

    Hey its just a ban on salt or ….
    Hey its just a fee not a tax

    Hillary as opposed to you; I dont support a individual mandate in healthcare bill : Barry Obama

    Its not a gun ban..its just a ban on the ammo to use in the guns

    It doesnt apply to us liberal politicians but dont let that worry you

    It will get more criminals off the street

    This will be the final amnesty and we will close the border. Ted Kennedy / Congress in 1986

    I want to fundamentally change the very country I love….

    We will pass a responsible budget: Barry Obama

    Bush is unpatriotic for running massive debts and deficits… I will get them under control. Barry Obama running for Pres.

    Romney killed a workers wife…Barry’s campaign

    Romney didnt pay taxes: Harry Reid

    YOU CANT TRUST LIBERALS WITH YOUR FREEDOMS

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    jharp #12 February 3, 2013 at 11:16 am

    aka: the Obama “feeler”

    re: [we have President Obama who can take all of
    the dangerous guns off the streets with
    one piece of legislation?]

    ROTF 😆 MBO!!

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  • cavt

    Agree–we can’t trust the govt–unfortunately. I actually wouldn’t mind a discussion on things that could be done, if you were talking with honest people on the other side. The problem with big govt Obamaites is they know they can’t get all they want at once, so it’s done incrementally.

  • Durpadurp

    C’mon tough guy jharp, don’t be a coward. You want fascism in this country you’re going to have to get your hands dirty. Come get our guns.

  • jharp

    #16 February 3, 2013 at 11:24 am
    Durpadurp commented:

    “What piece of legislation would that be jharp? And did you just threaten my life?”

    I don’t know what they are calling it yet but legislation banning assault rifles. And no I didn’t threaten your life. I merely responded to your threat of a civil war by letting you know you would be in jail or dead within one day should you try anything that stupid.

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    Durpadurp #10 February 3, 2013 at 10:53 am

    no no no, it’s their decades plan for revolution :aka: dream
    from
    Barry’s mommy’s baby daddy that they cannot let go to waste..

    more here and here..

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  • Flintstone F.

    Is this the jharp site?

  • Flintstone F.

    is this the jharp site Jim?

  • Durpadurp

    Your comments are making me fear for my safety and the safety of my family. You’re talking like a fascist. You’re the one who’s threatening civil war when talking about taking people’s private property like a brown shirt thug. Are you going to man up and get your hands dirty or pretend someone else is going to do it for you like a good little leach of the state?

  • Flintstone F.

    People ought to stop responding to jharp.

    Last post:

    Thanks bg.

  • bigkahuna

    Jharps a loser who never defends his /her positions just a firebomber with no common sense. He is a big government liberal until you tell him he cant have his free speech, choice is limited to killing your babies, showing id doesnt count for elections, being honest is only for republicans, lies dont matter if you are liberal.

    Lets ban hollywood violent movies, Video games, Occupy wall street, illegal aliens, deficit spending, welfare, foodstamps ( the make the people dependent like bears in parks)

    Laws and common sense dont apply to liberals.

    I say we add a mandate in Obamacare that every legal citizen over 18 not a criminal( eliminates 40% of liberals) be forced to buy a hand gun for their health and protection

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    cavt #19 February 3, 2013 at 11:39 am

    what could be done requires “common sense”, i’m afraid
    that died with the advent of legislative lawyer activists..

    at any rate, here are a couple of issues
    that should help get a discussion going:

    The NRA wants an ‘active’ mental illness database.

    Top psychiatrist: Meds behind school massacres

    more or less my opinion..

    more at links, in connecting links, and threads/comments..

    [still having tech problems, also having to click on “refresh” A LOT]

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  • Jim Hoft

    FYI–

    We added some updates this week to the website and it screwed with the comments for a while. I believe the problem is fixed now

    Today we have top story on Drudge and it is putting loads of pressure on our servers.
    Thanks everyone for your patience!

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    cavt #19 February 3, 2013 at 11:39 am

    what could be done requires “common sense”, i’m afraid
    that died with the advent of legislative lawyer activists..

    at any rate, here are a couple of issues
    that should help get a discussion going:

    The NRA wants an ‘active’ mental illness database.

    Top psychiatrist: Meds behind school massacres

    more or less my opinion..

    more at links, in connecting links, and threads/comments..

    [still having tech problems, also having to click on “refresh” A LOT]

    ==

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    Jim Hoft #29 February 3, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    well in that case, it’s must be my computer that’s
    screwing up worse than it ever has.. /sigh sarc/

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  • rosefire

    #26 & #27
    Exactly; just some kid trolling everyone for reactions. It’s impossible to be that stupid and still breathe.

  • Cliff M

    The largest percentage of murders are committed in deep blue areas by democrat voters. Having pinpointed the problem areas and population, we MUST initiate democrat control. Before they make more cities into wastelands like Detroit, or killzones like Chicago. If it saves just one childs life, it’s more than worth it.

  • jharp

    #25 February 3, 2013 at 12:05 pm
    Durpadurp commented:

    “Your comments are making me fear for my safety and the safety of my family.”

    Then you are an even bigger coward than I thought. Don’t start a civil war or threaten anyone and you have nothing to fear.

    “You’re talking like a fascist.”

    You obviosuly don’t know what fascist even means.

    “You’re the one who’s threatening civil war when talking about taking people’s private property like a brown shirt thug.”

    No. I’m not. I’m asking our President and Congress to pass laws banning certain guns. Just like we do now with fully autos, surface to air missiles, Abrams tanks, and sawed off shotguns

    “Are you going to man up and get your hands dirty or pretend someone else is going to do it for you like a good little leach of the state?”

    No. I’m a businessman and have no interest in getting my hands dirty except when I’m gardening. That’s why I pay taxes. So others can get their hands dirty on my behalf.

  • Codetrader

    There is a way to change what Mr Obama is doing to the United States.

    Did you know that Justice John Roberts is going to review a case on Feb 15th regarding Obama’s use of a fake SS#.

    The case review is real:

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/12a606.htm

    We do not think Roberts will act so we are demanding that Congress take action.

    Over 21,852 Letters and Emails Sent So Far. You can help by taking a small step today.

    http://www.petition2congress.com/9026/start-immediate-investigation-barack-obamas-use-forged-ids-ct-ssn/

    And tell a friend or two.

  • papapear

    …heeheehee… ole jharp must be on a respirator, because as noted previously, “it’s impossible to be that stupid and still breathe ” ….nailed it!!

  • Sturgis

    Agree with CT above. Wallace went out of his way to confuse viewers.

  • Patty

    OT

    ATF Loses FULLY Automatic M-4 .223 Caliber Rifle In Milwaukee: ATF Sting Store Sells Jewelry and Drug Paraphanalia

    [……………………..]
    Along with the M-4 .223-caliber fully automatic rifle stolen from an agent’s vehicle was a Smith & Wesson 9mm handgun and a Sig Sauer .40-caliber pistol. The M-4 and the Smith & Wesson haven’t been found, although the article says a “suspect” hid it under his bed. The suspect was questioned, “refused to talk” and was released. How does anyone know the M-4 was hidden under bed??? The suspect name was not revealed in the JSOnline article. Somewhere there’s an M-4 machine gun on the loose. Is this Fast and Furious II? Is there another victim like Brian Terry yet to report?

    The Sig Sauer was sold back to Fearless Distributing the day after the theft by Marquise Jones for $1,400.00. Jones wasn’t arrested for two months, and when he was, then not for the theft from the BATF vehicle, or at least not named in the theft. The whole thing reads like the Keystone Cops.

    http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2013/02/atf-loses-fully-automatic-m-4-223-caliber-rifle-in-milwaukee-atf-sting-store-sells-jewelry-and-drug-paraphanalia/

  • Durpadurp

    Banning semi-automatic rifles makes about as much sense as banning semi-automatic handguns. Just admit you want a blanker gun ban and you want you brown shirts to come take our private property, which will inevitably result in a civil war Jharp. YOU and our fascist ilk are the ones who are a clear and present danger to civil society.

  • Patty

    22 year old educates Piers Morgan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgnx1eh3cY4

  • Hiro Protagonist

    #80
    Taitz is idiotic. 3328 specifies appointed executive positions. President Obama was elected.

  • Patty

    Government Protects Criminals by Attacking Whistleblowers

    Specifically, the Obama administration has prosecuted more whistleblowers than all other presidents combined.

    Government employees also goes out of their way to smear whistleblowers, threaten reporters who discuss whistleblower information and harass honest analysts.

    Indeed, even high-level government employees are in danger. For example, after the head of the NSA’s spying program – William Binney – disclosed the fact that the U.S. was spying on everyone in the U.S. and storing the data forever, and that the U.S. was quickly becoming a totalitarian state, the Feds tried to scare him into shutting up:

    [Numerous] FBI officers held a gun to Binney’s head as he stepped naked from the shower. He watched with his wife and youngest son as the FBI ransacked their home. Later Binney was separated from the rest of his family, and FBI officials pressured him to implicate one of the other complainants in criminal activity. During the raid, Binney attempted to report to FBI officials the crimes he had witnessed at NSA, in particular the NSA’s violation of the constitutional rights of all Americans. However, the FBI wasn’t interested in these disclosures. Instead, FBI officials seized Binney’s private computer, which to this day has not been returned despite the fact that he has not been charged with a crime.[,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,]

    As FAIR put it this week, whatever else is true: “The only person to do time for the CIA’s torture policies appears to be a guy who spoke publicly about them, not any of the people who did the actual torturing.”

    Despite zero evidence of any harm from his disclosures, the federal judge presiding over his case – the reliably government-subservient US District Judge Leonie Brinkema – said she “would have given Kiriakou much more time if she could.” As usual, the only real criminals in the government are those who expose or condemn its wrongdoing.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-02-02/government-protects-criminals-attacking-whistleblowers

    This is relevant to Gun Control, because this Government doesn’t care who it abuses.

    YOU MUST READ ALL, IT IS TOO LENGTHY FOR HERE

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    re: #28 (#30) February 3, 2013 at 12:15 pm bg

    December 17, 2012

    Psychotropic Drugs

    December 19, 2012

    To Stop Shootings, Americans Focus on Police, Mental Health

    Obama & Big Pharma

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  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    jharp #34 February 3, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    re: [banning assault rifles]

    don’t rightly how many times one needs to fill you in, but if it
    helps at least one other person, for the umpteenth time, here
    you go again:

    Assault Weapons Ruse

    [Contrary to what the ad clearly implies, any weapon that can fire 300 rounds per minute remains illegal for civilians to own without specific clearance by the US Department of Justice.

    In fact, machine guns have been tightly regulated since the passage of the National Firearms Act in 1934, in the wake of the gangster era. Legal ownership of a machine gun requires an extensive federal background check, fingerprinting, signed clearance from the chief of local law enforcement (such as a county sheriff), a $200 excise tax, and weeks of paperwork. That was true before the assault-weapon ban was enacted in 1994, and it remains true with the expiration of the ban at midnight Sept. 13, 2004.

    That’s made clear in a question-and-answer document posted Sept.
    13 on the Web site of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and
    Explosives (ATF), explaining the effect of the expiration of the assault
    -weapon ban
    :

    ATF: All provisions of the National Firearms Act (NFA) relating
    to registration and transfer of machine guns . . . still apply.

    The fully automatic version of the AK47 — pictured and described
    in the ad — remains just as illegal as it was before the ban expired.]

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  • Patty

    Obama administration will FIX IT, but to what end.

    Chicago marchers urge Obama to come home to address gun violence

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/03/us-usa-crime-chicago-idUSBRE91200X20130203?

    Obama ignores his priorities and his own state has more violence by youth and yet, he still hasn’t address this problem in 5 years.

    They want to punish all Americans and especially the gun owners (responsible) people who just wish to protect themselves and they know the Constitution and respect it. Does he?

  • Patty

    Obama is going way out of his way to stop the American citizens to live under freedom not his form of Tyranny.

    He gives Illegals more rights than the citizens of the United States. This obviously makes those of us who have always, before Obama who insist on changing our rights came ago.

    This is what makes us Furious.

    Now, Rove is on attack mode to destroy the Tea Party. What are these idiots smoking.

  • Patty

    OT

    WATCH – Special Forces Chief: ‘Everything Done In Every Marxist Insurgency Are Being Done In America Today’

    http://patdollard.com/2013/02/special-forces-chief-everything-done-in-every-marxist-insurgency-are-being-done-in-america-today/

  • jharp is an ass

    Wow, our trolls are getting bold and frisky. I think we should just let them have their way. The sooner the s**t hits the fan, the better. I can’t wait to see how they handle the collapse of this society. Luckily, we’ll still be well-armed, and we can watch them starve and prey on each other from a safe distance …

  • Jedward1000

    Mr Wallace lost a good deal of my respect for doing such a “Gotcha” interview. He should be ashamed of what he did this morning. In todays journalistic world where so many “journalists” are merely speaking their personal point of view, he just jumped on that bandwagon in my opinion. For him to even toss out the idea that others children are less important that the DC elite and their kids who get armed guards, (shake my head). I am sorry Mr. Wallace, but as of today you lost my respect.

  • patriot

    Oh Please … no intention of a registry? Isn’t that why they want a mental background check on every gun buyer? Isn’t that why they want EVERY gun purchase, private or public, to be documented? Isn’t that why they want EVERY ammunition purchase to be documented, by buyer and caliber? How stupid do these people think we are? It’s like Leslie, coming here spewing her daily accident reports. They think we can’t see through to their end game. I have news for them. The American gun owning public is a whole LOT smarter than they think we are. We’ve been fending off these attacks for decades now, and we know all the tricks. Bring it on….

    If this government can’t figure out how to take drugs out of the hands of a bunch of uneducated street thugs, or keep millions of illegals from streaming across our borders and taking our jobs, they certainly aren’t going to succeed in disarming us. It will be fun watching them try though …

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    Patty #105 February 3, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    a commie dog & pony bs show..

    fact is.. Chicagoans got wise, and are arming themselves against the gun
    violence perpetrated against them that both Jesse and Al, not to mention
    Barry himself, or Holders people, instigate via their constant “racist” canards..

    September 30, 2011

    Media Silence Is Deafening About Important Gun News

    October 26, 2011

    47% of Americans have guns in the United States

    July 14, 2012

    Crime rates in Chicago and DC drop
    after gun control laws are struck down

    December 11, 2012

    Federal Appelate court strikes down Illinois’ total
    ban on concealed carriage as unconstitutional

    January 31, 2013

    1,100 Green Berets set record straight on guns

    [“In contrast, in 2009 (5 years after the Federal Assault Weapons Ban
    expired) total firearm related homicides in the U.S. declined by 9 percent
    from the 2005 high,” the letter says, citing FBI statistics.]

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  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    patriot #60 February 3, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    no, i believe the NRA wants a data list of verified mentally ill folks so’s they won’t be able to purchase guns, sort of like not handing a drivers license
    to anyone under the age of 4.. /s/

    however, the following may be of interest:

    The NRA Clause in Obama’s Health Care Reform Law

    not to mention hypocrites, Obama’s
    “litmus test”, and a bit more here..

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  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    jharp is an ass #58 February 3, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    so true, the more they want, the more they get, the more they get the
    more they don’t want it anymore, but they (Marxists by any other name),
    like their co-hort Islamists, never give up, they always want more.. 😈

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  • Hiro Protagonist

    #58
    How do right wingers simultaneously believe that they have all the guns, yet are still being oppressed?

    Spoiler: They are mentally ill.

  • Durpadurp

    “#58
    How do right wingers simultaneously believe that they have all the guns, yet are still being oppressed?

    Spoiler: They are mentally ill.”

    How can leftists claim we still live in a free society when the state can punish you for refusing to enter into a private contract within a market that you may not feel is in your best interest?

    Answer: they can’t. Their lying fascists. ObamaCare is fascism.

  • Durpadurp

    May or may not BE in your best interest*

  • Hiro Protagonist

    #65
    The individual mandate was created by Republicans at the request of the insurance lobby. You seem to have a very warped and myopic view of how the law works.

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    Hiro Protagonist #64 February 3, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    no, your comprehension skills are seriously lacking..

    that said, re: mental illness..

    December 21, 2012

    The NRA wants an ‘active’ mental illness
    database. Thirty-eight states have that now.

    Top psychiatrist: Meds behind school massacres

    [Psychotropic drugs “prescribed for school
    children cause violent behavior,” Healy stated.

    The drugs are widely used in the U.S. as antidepressants by doctors
    working in the mental health field and increasingly by primary care
    doctors, he noted.

    Healey insisted the problem today is that doctors working with schools
    to control the behavior of children are inclined to prescribe SSRI drugs
    without serious consideration of adverse consequences.

    “The pharmaceutical companies made these drugs with the idea of
    making money,” he said. “There’s a wide range of problems when it
    comes to looking at these drugs for children. Very few children have
    serious problems that warrant treatment with pills that have the
    risks SSRI drugs have.”

    The drugs can make children “aggressive and hostile,” he noted.

    “Children taking SSRI drugs are more likely to harm or to injure
    other children at school,” said Healy. “The child may be made
    suicidal.

    “We are giving drugs to children who are passing through critical
    development stages, and as a society we are really conducting
    a vast experiment and no one really knows what the outcome of
    that will be.”

    Healey cautioned that there is a very high correlation
    between mass shootings and use of the drugs.

    “When roughly nine out of every 10 cases in these school shootings
    and mass shootings involve these drugs being prescribed, then at
    least a significant proportion of these cases were either caused by
    the drugs or the drugs made a significant contribution to the problem,
    ” he said.

    President Obama, in a series of 23 presidential memoranda and
    proclamations signed last week, called for the Centers for Disease
    control to undertake research to examine gun violence and to
    explore medical means to control the problem.]

    that said, re: Obama & Big Pharma..

    Memos released Friday by the House Energy and Commerce Committee
    revealed the close links between the Obama administration and the
    Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, also known as
    PhRMA.

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  • Durpadurp

    “#67 February 3, 2013 at 3:50 pm
    Hiro Protagonist commented:

    #65
    The individual mandate was created by Republicans at the request of the insurance lobby. You seem to have a very warped and myopic view of how the law works.”

    I don’t care who invented it. Dems shoved it down our throats like good little fascists against overwhelming opposition. It’s still fascism. Also I seem to remember your RatEared Wonder being against before he was for it. Another lie by the liar in Chief that you turds excuse on a daily basis.

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    Hiro Protagonist #67 February 3, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    link please,

    thankyouverymuch..

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  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    Durpadurp #65 February 3, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    re: [lying fascists]

    or as i like to put it..

    “what the fascist left have been aiming for is to “equate” good with evil..
    that’s the only way they can appease their conscience in the face of the
    harsh reality they are trying to escape from because it doesn’t fit in with
    their ideological utopian matrix.. if there is no good vs evil, then all is good
    even if [the] all is evil..” – bg

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  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    what’ the hell GP..

    where did all the posts go??

    ie: #103 February 3, 2013 at 1:28 pm bg
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/nra-chief-lapierre-you-cant-trust-this-white-house-video/comment-page-5/#comment-974542

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  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg
  • Hiro Protagonist
  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    Hiro Protagonist #79 February 3, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    so they had it before they didn’t??

    re: the man who almost single handedly
    stopped HillaryCare, go figure..

    that’s proof??

    but okay, what else don’t we have that the Prog-Dem_libs wound up
    giving US because the Republicans changed their minds?? and what
    does it change in relative to today, but even more importantly,
    what’s going to kick in up the ObamaCare road??

    btw..

    Single Payer Option

    No Gov Mandates, No No No

    “Individual Mandate: Obama v. Obama”

    disclaimer: i believe the career elites on BOTH sides do NOT have OUR best
    interest at heart, ergo, back Obama in private whilst volunteering to be his
    “boy whipped” (so to speak) in public..

    bottom line:

    IT’S STILL A TAX.. /SC sarc/

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  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    Hiro Protagonist #79 February 3, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    btw, that folks be required to have health insurance is a great “concept”,
    however, mandating it, is not, ergo, one needs to be careful what they
    read about not too complicated issues, the more “words”, the more smoke
    and mirror are being used to smudge the “context”.. besides, that NYT
    piece is more of an opinionated riddle than a clean cut honest report so to
    speak..

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  • Wanda

    Gone to your doctor yet this year? Don’t be surprised if your doc asks you DO YOU HAVE GUN? This happened to a friend and he was really taken off guard. He hesitated and the nurse repeated the question and claimed his insurance company wanted to know. We suspect the nurse was lying. I asked him what business does your doctor or the health insurance company have in knowing whether or not you own a gun? I’m convinced you should never answer yes to the question, because this will be a permanent part of your health record and could be used against you at a later date, if the government determines you should lose your gun rights because of medication you’re on, or if you tell the doc you’re stressed out. Especially in light of Obama and fellow anti 2nd Amendment Democrats hatred for the right to keep and bear arms. We all know the healthcare system was designed to collaspe under Obamacare and it will result in a single payer government run “health care” system, where your records will be seen by politically motivated government workers who won’t give a DemocRATS behind about destroying your Constitutional rights. It should really irk people that the anti 2nd Amendment Democrats have recruited our doctors to snitch on us.

    So if you have a doctor’s appointment soon, be prepared to be asked if you own a gun.
    There are many in the medical field who worship Obama and hate guns. Even the government Center for Disease Control considers gun ownership a disease. So you see, everywhere you turn, our rights are under attack. You can’t even trust your own doctor anymore.

  • Jeannie

    Presumably we are expected to be served by the same people now in the TSA and hte DMV. Oh yes, they will certainly have no competency problems

  • Patty

    #82 Wanda

    So if you have a doctor’s appointment soon, be prepared to be asked if you own a gun.
    There are many in the medical field who worship Obama and hate guns. Even the government Center for Disease Control considers gun ownership a disease. So you see, everywhere you turn, our rights are under attack. You can’t even trust your own doctor anymore.

    ~~~~~~~~~

    None of their business. I won’t answer but by my not answering it may seem obvious that I do. But I really don’t give a flying leap.

  • Patty
  • Patty

    Jim Carrey Says New Gun Owners’ Lives Not ‘Worth Protecting’

    http://www.theinnoplex.com/news/newssub/jim-carrey-says-new-gun-owners-lives-not-worth-protecting

  • Patty

    Krugman: Bizarre NRA Thinks ‘We’re Living in a Mad Max Movie’

    http://patdollard.com/2013/02/krugman-bizarre-nra-thinks-were-living-in-a-mad-max-movie/

  • Robert

    @Jeffery (February 3, 2013 at 10:39 am): You might want to recheck your facts there guy. And firearm suicides aren’t part of the debate because just like criminals if they cant get their preferred tool they’ll find another tool to do what they want to with.

    And @Jharp: i’m not going to come over and stuff a sock in your mouth stopping your first amendment rights because the government will do that on their own after the compromise the 2nd amendment.

    Y’all really need to wake the heck up and see what’s really going on here. Several of them have said they don’t think any citizen should have firearms or that they’d push a bill to outright confiscate everything if they could get the votes for it. Go turn off the TV and do some research into history what’s happened every time a government’s done away with citizen’s firearms or created a national registry. It never was pretty.

  • patriot

    bg, I understand that the NRA has been pushing for a database of the mentally ill to check against, but that is not the same as what the Obama administration and the gun control lobby is pushing for…

    In an effort to eliminate the “gun show loophole” they are trying to make “private” transfers illegal and make every sale subject to the same laws licensed dealers are subject to. So, I ask you, how do you do that without forcing EVERY gun owner to declare and register their firearms? There would be absolutely no way to stop, track, or penalize improper private sales without tracking the serial numbers of every existing gun, right?

    They are also pushing for a database of ammo sales, presumably to develop a list of owners and calibers purchased to cross check against the lists of weapons people declare. I consider myself a rational person, and I’m usually not one to seize on conspiracy theories, but to me, the writing is on the wall here. Only a fool wouldn’t recognize the danger of giving the government a comprehensive list of every weapon owned by every citizen in America.

  • patriot

    And bg, I’d like to say I’m in favor of mental background checks, but once again, that opens a can of worms. First, if it’s going to work, it has to be done on ALL transfers, not just new purchases, so we’re right back to a national registry of all guns. Secondly, and most importantly, who sets and maintains the CRITERIA for a disqualifying “mental illness”, and exactly WHO gets to make the final decision on whether a citizen can safely own a gun? The potential for discrimination and persecution is terrifying, and once the law and the system is in place, we’re only one stoke of a executive order pen away from total confiscation.

    If we had any trust in this government whatsoever, we might be a little more flexible, but based on what they’ve tried to do already, it’s pretty obvious that Wayne LaPierre was right. This government has proven that it can’t be trusted to adhere to the Constitution, so I’m left with no choice but to fight everything they try to do when it comes to gun control. I support CRIMINAL control. If we didn’t have millions of firearms being misused by thugs and criminals every day, the number of gun deaths in America would be statistically insignificant, and we probably wouldn’t be having this debate.

  • Bigkahuna

    If they had tried illegal immigrant control as hard as they try for gun control…we wouldn’t have any illegal immigrants.

    Until they do so…shove your gun control up Obamas boney @ss

  • Bigkahuna

    Obama was against gay marriage, individual mandates, govt deficit spending, stealing from Medicare, lying to the American people about a fee vs a tax, higher taxes during hard times, raising taxes on people over $250k, for closing gitmo, for trials of terrorists in NY, healing the nation, stopping the rise of the seas…. Before he was against them.

    So not that I ever did trust him…. I never will either. He is a parasite that’s killing the host.

  • http://mychal-massie.com/premium/ bg

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    patriot #89 February 3, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    i understand what you’re saying, and whether
    or not i agree with you on other gun issues..

    i was addressing mental health related
    issues connected to mass murders..

    38 states already employ use of such data, one does not have to check
    every single gun owners mental health if a list of the mentally ill, violent,
    and/or, criminally insane people is available, not that that alone will cure
    what ails the problem of mental illness or mass gun murders, but i do see
    the mentally ill as being societal guinea pigs, especially those they put on
    drugs that can cause violence against oneself, as well as others, such as
    Lanza, but it certainly is something other than just a start..

    January 22, 2013

    Top psychiatrist: Meds behind school massacres

    [Psychotropic drugs “prescribed for school
    children cause violent behavior,” Healy stated.

    The drugs are widely used in the U.S. as antidepressants by doctors working in the mental health field and increasingly by primary care doctors, he noted.

    Healey insisted the problem today is that doctors working with schools to control the behavior of children are inclined to prescribe SSRI drugs without serious consideration of adverse consequences.

    “The pharmaceutical companies made these drugs with the idea of making money,” he said. “There’s a wide range of problems when it comes to looking at these drugs for children. Very few children have serious problems that warrant treatment with pills that have the risks SSRI drugs have.”]

    simple logic tells me: mass murderers + mentally ill
    + psychotropic drugs = one heck of a connection..

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  • dusel1

    jharp’s demented comments:

    “Let’s hope the gun registry turns out exactly like the ObamaCare tax.”
    -Sure, pass the legislation so that we can find out what’s in it – more financial destruction to US, control of the sheeple, and more taxation.

    “In place and the law of the land.”
    -Barry (Obama) is an outlaw. He hasn’t followed the US Constitution since Jan 20, 2009.
    Chicago’s Liberal political rats have instituted many Second Amendment violations against law-abiding US citizens. For 2009, Chicago, which has one of the most rigorous gun control laws of the land, had 557 robberies per 100,000 population. I don’t think the robbers were using guns made from a gelatin dessert. How’s that gun control legislation working for you? Ever been to East St. Louis, IL, or St. Louis, MO? Drive through either city, but do not stop; you will get hi-jacked at the point of a firearm. You’d do well if you had one to defend yourself.

    “Best President since FDR.”
    FDR (Foolish Democrat Retard) could have prevented the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, but chose to let it happen.

    You really need to remove the IV needle that has Barry’s Cruel Ade pumping throughout your veins.

    Then, you need to change jobs. Stop being Barry’s chamber pot servant. The pot does not always need to be licked clean.