New Jersey Town Considers Ban on Flying US Flag


A New Jersey town is considering a ban on signs and banners including American flags.
MyFOXNY reported:

The Hudson County town of West New York is considering a widespread sign regulation that could include banning American flags from being flown.

The Board of Commissioners have a draft ordinance for “General Sign Regulations”.

Among the prohibited signs under the proposal would be “Flags, banners and pennants.”

This has opponents upset.

“What if I want to hang the American Flag? I can’t,” Frank Ferriero told politickerNJ. “Man, that’s un-American.”

The proposed ordinance was first read at a meeting on Wednesday. The final vote on the proposal will be held on Feb. 20 at a 7 p.m. meeting at the municipal building.

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  • Joe Blow

    That is what living on the East coast does for you.

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  • Sam Stone

    The “fundamental transformation of the United States of America” is spreading and half way there.

    How soon before we need a license to exercise our 1st Amendment rights?

  • Lim Lynn

    Is Socialist Democrat Commie creating more rules and red tapes regulation to prevent patriotism shown when flying America Flag?

  • 18Delta

    Every time I see or hear this kind of crap I just get a lump in my stomache and see my country slip away a little more. I think of those U.S. Marines on Iwo Jima who planted our flag on Mt. Suribachi at such a cost, and what it meant to every fighting man on that island to see it raised. I wonder if our great vets of that nightmare are now questioning their sacrifice for our ensured freedom. That flag stands for every soldier, sailor airman or marine that has fought for our freedom and so many just don’t care anymore. Those who don’t care or don’t understand the sacrifices that have been made on their behalf do not deserve the rights that have been secured for them. Whats happening in this country is disgusting and an affront to our heritage.

  • Finncrisp

    There was a study that seeing the American flag produced a more conservative bent that persisted for some time. Banning a display of our country’s flag would caudse us all to feel a little “displaced”, which is the whole idea. Destroy our sense of being part of something bigger than us and our interests.

    Maybe we do need to gather up all the marxists and put them in a geographic area so they can “collectively” enjoy the nothingness they so richly deserve.

  • gary@

    Anyone who goes along with banning the American flag should be sent packing from this country.You are not welcome in America.You are a communist POS.When we can no longer fly our flag,America will be DEAD.How about these people be put in a consentration camp for 4 or 5 yr’s. Let us see if they want to come back to a free country.Then tell them HELL NO. Commies not welcome.Stay the hell out.

  • Valerie

    There has to be more to this. Perhaps somebody is flying some sort of banner or flag that is a nuisance. If we knew what it is that started this, we might be a bit more sympathetic.

  • Lim Lynn

    gulagbound.com/36956/cutter-promises-obamas-campaign-cockroach-corps-vs-2nd-amendment/
    Campaign Cockroach Cops vs 2nd Amendment Bill of Rights.

  • No Sympathy Val…

    Valerie seriously??….Sympathy??…Normally, OK … But not in this case … This is AMERICA … The United States of … Flying the American Flag should be allowed anywhere in the Great 48 and Alaska and Hawaii ANYTIME you want … There is no excuse

    And before you even think it, no I am not racist against anybody or anything, anyone from any Country can live here but yes, they should be forced to learn English … Sorry but this is OUR Country, we were here first … You wanna come over and live and make Millions that’s fine but do NOT expect us to learn Spanish, French, Japanese, Hindu/Indian or any other #@$D@&% Language … It’s not right

    And I don’t even go to Church so I am not some right or left wing wackjob but not being allowed to say the Pledge of Allegiance anymore in School?? … We’re going too far bending over Backwards being all “PC” and catering to visitors instead of own people … It’s sickening … They would be IDIOTS if they voted this in in that town

  • More Minty

    JIM HOFT IS FABRICATING AGAIN
    This is a proposal regulating commercial advertisements. A cursory reading makes that very clear to anyone. It has nothing to do with the US flag.

  • NJ Mike

    West New York is a hotbed of support for our US Senator, Menendez.
    Give you an idea of the population there.
    Democrats Delenda East.

  • Conservative Women Need To Speak Louder

    communists

  • My family and three others have our flag out all year round except for Christmas. My mom puts a snowman or santa flag up during that time.

    Thank God I don’t live in NJ! What’s WRONG with these people?!

  • Rumor is they are going to take the flags down and replace them all with several pairs of Chris Christies underwear, but they are having a problem because the undies are so large that they scrape the ground at full mast……

  • shadow

    There has to be more to this. Perhaps somebody is flying some sort of banner or flag that is a nuisance. If we knew what it is that started this, we might be a bit more sympathetic.

    Thank you for resisting the knee-jerk reaction that seems to prevail on the internet. This is regulating commercial signage, though it does seem a little over the top, particularly the part about,”Signs that are displayed in such a manner as to be hazardous to traffic or disturb occupants of any other building.

    § 338-19. Prohibited signs.
    The signs listed below are prohibited anywhere in the Town of West New York: A. Flashing, moving, animated, digital (except time or temperature), or fluttering
    signs and signs that emit smoke, visible vapors or particles, sound or odor.
    B. Signs affixed to the exterior of a window or glass
    C. Signs of such design and location that they interfere with, compete for attention
    with or may be mistaken for a traffic signal
    D. Freestanding or projecting signs within an area bounded by the intersection of the
    right-of-way of two or more streets and located within 30 feet from such intersection
    along the rights-of-way of such streets, except informational signs erected by a governmental body.
    E. Exterior signs containing excessive product or service advertising or trade names.
    F. Flags, banners and pennants.
    G. Billboards
    H. Signs that are displayed in such a manner as to be hazardous to traffic or disturb occupants of any other building.
    I. Neon signs framing windows.
    J. Signs attached to or incorporated onto a light pole
    K. Window and door signs that exceed 15% of the glass area and temporary window and door signs that exceed 10% of the glass area.
    L. Signs erected or located on, within or over any public right-of-way, unless specifically permitted herein.
    M. Except as otherwise permitted in this chapter, signs which are not accessory to a use located on the premises
    N. Highly reflective glass or fluorescent paint in red, green or amber.
    O. Any sign erected, constructed, or maintained on or above the roof of a building.
    P. Internally lit “can” or cabinet signs with transparent backgrounds.
    Q. Portable signs.
    R. Bench signs.
    S. Inflatable signs.

  • #11 … Minty…Hey are you the actor who played the Feral Child in Mad Max Road Warriors, his name was Minty also…Tell us do you still look the same or have you been hit in the head by that Boom a Rang a few to many times…..

  • Flintstone F.

    I would not comply with any ordinance telling me I couldn’t fly the American flag.

    But this particular case is vague. No mention that the American flag is banned. Just a person questioning if it includes a ban on the American flag.

    I need more information.

  • Flintstone F.

    And then shadow highlights the part where the leftists usually hang their agenda, in more vague words.

  • Patty

    Just another bunch of Communists. Pleas Leave America!!!

  • Lim Lynn

    http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/0013/duigon/1-teachers-spiritual-leaders.htm
    New York Socialist Democrat Commie Teachers ask students to remove all Christian symbols especially Bible Study Group.

  • Highlander

    “flags” … seems pretty clear to me … I see no exclusion for the American flag anywhere Shadow. So, would you support this or not?

  • Rock

    #11 January 18, 2013 at 10:06 am
    More Minty commented:

    JIM HOFT IS FABRICATING AGAIN
    Tucked into a proposed ordinance that would regulate window displays in businesses and televisions mounted to cars is a provision that would ban “flags, banners and pennants.” Flags are included among 19 items “prohibited anywhere” in West New York
    ___________________________________________________________________

    Really, you went there? Typical lib
    From the Huff Puff Blow

    Tucked into a proposed ordinance that would regulate window displays in businesses and televisions mounted to cars is a provision that would ban “flags, banners and pennants.” Flags are included among 19 items “prohibited anywhere” in West New York

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/17/west-new-york-american-flag-ban_n_2499304.html

  • Rock

    Oops should have been.
    #23 January 18, 2013 at 12:37 pm
    Rock commented:

    #11 January 18, 2013 at 10:06 am
    More Minty commented:

    JIM HOFT IS FABRICATING AGAIN
    This is a proposal regulating commercial advertisements. A cursory reading makes that very clear to anyone. It has nothing to do with the US flag.
    ___________________________________________________________________

    Really, you went there? Typical lib
    From the Huff Puff Blow

    Tucked into a proposed ordinance that would regulate window displays in businesses and televisions mounted to cars is a provision that would ban “flags, banners and pennants.” Flags are included among 19 items “prohibited anywhere” in West New York

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/17/west-new-york-american-flag-ban_n_2499304.html

  • Sandy

    I predict that Chris Christie will become a Democrat. Every word out of his mouth is an attack on Republicans and a wet kiss for Obama. Beware the big blowhards.

  • Sandy

    #23 Rock does it bother you that American Flags are no longer posted at Polling Places? Jim Hoff doesn’t fabricate — you can take what he says to the bank unlike the rest of the media.

  • shadow

    “flags” … seems pretty clear to me … I see no exclusion for the American flag anywhere Shadow. So, would you support this or not?

    No! And beyond not having a explicit exclusion for the US flag, and perhaps the state flag, they would have to tighten up the language to reduce the ambiguity. Most of it is too subjective:
    interfere with, compete for attention
    excessive product or service advertising
    hazardous to traffic or disturb occupants
    Highly reflective
    Portable signs

    Which would invariably lead to inconsistent enforcement and the resultant legal fees.

  • shadow

    Jim Hoff doesn’t fabricate

    Well if he doesn’t, somebody does it for him. Even the title of this thread is misleading.

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  • shadow

    A message from the mayor.
    I want to make it very clear that American flags, nor any other nation’s flag, have NOT been banned in West New York. It has been an unfortunate matter of misunderstanding.

    As a colonel in the United States Army for 37 years, it would be absolutely absurd for me to support flag banning in any way. I love this country. If not for this country, I would not have been able to become a physician, a colonel, or your mayor.

    It would be a violation of our freedom of speech to disallow residents to show their patriotism. This is the sort of oppression I experienced in Cuba. The freedom to proudly display the American flag and to express oneself is what inspired me to serve in the United States military for nearly four decades. It is why I love my country.

    The original intent behind the ordinance that was introduced on January 16 was to address the digital signs and advertisements polluting our streets, NOT to ban the American flag. Many surrounding towns have enacted similar laws in order to reduce the nuisance of too much advertisement.

    Ultimately the ordinance is meant to improve the quality of life for the residents of West New York, which is always our goal.

  • sablegsd

    It figures shadow would be ok with this
    BS regressive commiecrat abuse of power.
    Next up, a limit to how much dental floss you can use in any one day and the banning of washing machines as “too polluting.”

  • Rock

    #26 January 18, 2013 at 1:34 pm
    Sandy commented:

    #23 Rock does it bother you that American Flags are no longer posted at Polling Places?
    _____________________________________________________________

    Sandy yes, and a lot of other places the progressive scum have tried to bring it down. I’m sorry if you thought my post was defending the act. In fact I was addressing more minty #11 assertion that Jim was fabricating the story by pointing out that Huff Puff Blow even said the same thing. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

  • Lim Lynn

    @Rock
    Well, rock don’t worry about people misunderstanding the intention of the Jim Hoft GatewayPundit since Socialist Democrat Commie Fascist Anarchist will divert our attention to non important thing. For instance my country Malaysia now going to have election they find weaknesses and blame every single politicians with credibility especially Prime Minister Najib for killing the Mongolian woman’s father was a jew and his poor wife who didn’t wear any wedding ring owning RM73 million diamond ring especially. Next, they try to force Sabah out of Malaysia similar to Socialist Commie Fascist Anarchist against Government who been helping under poverty line people to survive the odds. Actually, it was rumor or hearsay.

  • Lim Lynn

    http://ahmadalikarim.wordpress.com/2013/01/12/kl112-is-pr-after-a-revolution/
    The real story we just uncovered was Anwar Ibrahim did help Socialist Commie Fascist Anarchist to come out of hiding, grab villages food and medicine. Ching Peng who with his gang went destroy all the railway tracks after British took over when Japan give up. He also visited Georgetown University very well known Jesuit hideout who planned for NWO which is strange. Muslim people how can they be mixing with Catholic Jesuit Black Pope. Seems Chick comic about Alberto Rivera was right after we uncover documents about what he had been doing all along and he was also a freemason in Civil Service Lodge No.148 of Ontario Canada. Then, we seen Socialist Commie Fascist Anarchist Party Socialist Malaysia using KL112 to stir up a Socialist Revolution 47 that means Revolution 1947.

  • Sandy

    Rock thats for clearing that up.

  • Flintstone F.

    shadow should get some credit here. #30 is the relevant clarification. Let’s leave the knee jerk for the lefties.

  • Larry Evans

    I fly my flag 24/7 365/366 days and hang my 12′ x 8′ flag on National Holidays.
    If they want my flag we will have a talk on the second amendment at the point of my gun.
    I’m 72 years old and will Never give up my Flag or my Gun without a fight.
    I fly the flag to honor My Country and ALL Those THAT HAVE FOUGHT FOR HER.