Remember this?
Pelosi told us they had to ram through the Obamacare monstrosity so that you can find out what’s in it.

Well, now we know what’s in it…
Harry Reid slipped a provision in the Obamacare law that forbids Democrats and the White House from restricting guns and ammo.
Forbes reported:

As for Reid’s reasons for burying a pro-gun measure into the body of the Affordable Care Act, the Majority Leader is said to have been concerned that the NRA planned to take an active position against the passage of Obamacare and decided, no doubt with the permission of Reid’s friend, NRA boss Wayne LaPierre, to head the problem off at the pass by putting language in the bill that would mollify the gun lobby.

Further, there was concern that a conspiracy theory then in circulation among right-wing circles—a meme suggesting that the Obama Administration had cleverly planted language in the ACA that could be used as a tool to get to the guns—would further erode public support for the legislation. For these reasons, Reid determined to insert some cozy language for the gun people into the Senate version of the ACA—language certain to escape public review at a time when the conversation was far more focused on hot button subjects like death panels, taxes and mandates.

For these reasons, the following language did, indeed, become a part of the nation’s controversial health care reform law:

(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—

‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.— A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to—

‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully- possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or

‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘

(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any in- formation relating to—

‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;

‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or

‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.

‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.

So, the question is… What isn’t in the Obamacare law? This may be a win for gun owners but it also shows the depth of corruption in the Democratic Party.

 

 

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  1. So? They don’t give a rat’s ass about the Constitution why would this get in their way?

    They play by their own rules. Or haven’t you noticed?

  2. There is corruption on the other side of the aisle as well which is why we are in such a mess. If each and every one of our elected officials would honor their oath of office, we would not find ourselves in a battle for the preservation of this Republic.

  3. Also in the Health Care Bill…….

    (Sec. 1303, as modified by Sec. 10104) Sets forth special rules for abortion coverage, including: (1) permitting states to elect to prohibit abortion coverage in qualified health plans offered through an Exchange in the state; (2) prohibiting federal funds from being used for abortion services; and (3) requiring separate accounts for payments for such services. PROHIBITS ANY QUALIFIED HEALTH PLAN OFFERED THROUGH AN EXCHANGE FROM DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ANY INDIVIDUAL HEALTH CARE PROVIDER OR HEALTH CARE FACILITY BECAUSE OF ITS UNWILLINGNESS TO PROVIDE, PAY FOR, PROVIDE COVERAGE OF, OR REFER FOR ABORTIONS.

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR03590:@@@D&summ2=3&

  4. Easily fixed by the arrogant Dems in Washington. Simply make it illegal for anyone to possess a firearm while undergoing medical treatment, and *poof*. All of those restrictions blow away like dust.

    Never underestimate the stupidity of people in large groups, particularly when the group size is evenly divided by 535 or so.

  5. ++


    YES!!
    :D

    [So, the good news for the gun folks is that the ACA is, indeed, prevented from being used as a weapon in the ‘War on Guns’ under the guise that guns are bad for people’s health. They can also take solace in the fact that the law prevents government from collecting any gun data resulting from information obtained in the course of medical providers doing their thing—much as HIPAA prevents such information from being used for a variety of purposes.

    Beyond that, if you imagine that this obscure section of the Affordable Care Act is going to block the Administration from exercising whatever legal authority it may have to regulate guns in America, I’m afraid you will be quite disappointed.

    I think all would agree that should the President resolve to use his executive powers to create a data base or any other regulatory provision, it is far more likely that such regulation would fall within the ambit of the Justice Department — not Health & Human Services — and nothing in the ACA prevents such data collection, or any other regulatory efforts, which would fall outside the limited jurisdiction created in Obamacare with respect to firearms.

    So, to our friends at Breitbart and the others who believe they have discovered gold in their effort to prevent the administration from acting on its desire to bring sanity to our gun laws, I’m afraid you are going to have to reload as Obamacare is just not the magic bullet you are looking for.]

    anxiously awaiting knowledgeable opinions, as i haven’t absorbed it all
    as yet, ergo, aside from not having a clue at the moment, also not up
    to speculation, which is best left to those in the know anyways..

    ==

  6. Are you kidding? Reid and Sadim by law are supposed to pass a budget each year, still waiting. By his own word the public was supposed to have 5 days to read new law, Three years later we still do not know what Sadim Care contains. By law he is ordered to protect our borders, and providing guns to drug runners to kill our border agents by no stretch comes close. And we still have not seen any concrete evidence that those responsible for the the Benghazi tragedy have been dealt with, yet he has decided the act of a mad man is reason enough to ignore the Constitution. No I have no misgivings that anything that stands in his way will ever be obeyed.

  7. We must remember they’re a lawless bunch. This provision won’t any effect on whatever the Dems try to pull.

    All gun laws are illegal.
    Shall Not Be Infringed.
    Not Might Not, or Should Not, SHALL NOT. Period.

  8. #3 Sasja is correct. We need to stop concentrating on just Dems. We need to fix our own mess first, and the corruption in the GOP is the real reason the country has fallen apart. The fact that the GOP has become just as corrupt leaves voters with no viable options at the voting booth.

    How about each and every person who reads this comment immediately pick up the phone and contact Darrell Issa. Ask him why, with all of the hundreds of so-called “investigations” he’s done in the last four years, not a single person has been charged with a crime. Tell him to stop with the smoke and mirrors and to actually do his job, instead of simply pretending to be outraged and then doing absolutely nothing about it.

    Ask him why the GOP is allowing rampant violations of the Constitution and doing absolutely nothing about it other than to pound their fists on the table and say they’re angry.

    DO IT! If you simply read these stories every day and then go about your day without doing a d@mn thing about it, you’re just as much a reason for the problems as anyone. It takes two minutes. Write him an email. DO IT NOW.

    Darrell Issa is a sham. A con artist. Tell him to do his job …

    http://issa.house.gov/contact/contact-me

  9. BG:
    “…if you imagine that this obscure section of the Affordable Care Act is going to block the Administration from exercising whatever legal authority it may have to regulate guns in America…”

    There is no such authority.

  10. As for Reid’s reasons for burying a pro-gun measure into the body of…

    Nice. Not only do they get stung by one of their favorite tactics, but it originated from one of their ranks as well.

    Every single bill from here on out is worth reading in its entirety, as it certainly isn’t beyond the gun-grabbers in Congress to bury some other measure in some other bill that invalidates this one.

  11. ++

    re; #6 January 12, 2013 at 3:26 pm bg

    btw, is it just me, or does that seem a tad bass ackwards??

    i mean, should we not know if mental patients/on toxic meds
    own or carry guns, or would that be a diff category?? thanks..

    ==

  12. Gregor:
    Americans need to wake up. Americans don’t run America any longer and the American system no longer functions as intended. We’re under one party rule. There’s no “fixing” the GOP. It’s corrupted beyond repair with Leftists, Islamists, Communists and Criminals. We must have a political revolution or we’re done. Do we have time? I wonder.

  13. ++

    Practical Jane #10 January 12, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    they tell US Executive Order has the authority..

    also thought there was no such authority for
    ObamaCare, how did that work out.. *sigh*

    ==

  14. #6 January 12, 2013 at 3:26 pm
    bg commented:

    A database of convicted felons and dangerous mentally ill people would be much smaller than one involving every gun owner, and could easily be constructed in a manner that would avoid infringing on anybody’s rights.

  15. Sorry, I question the validity of this claim. My healthcare provider has twice in the past year asked me whether there are firearms in my home.

  16. I read this to apply to the Secretary of HHS who is granted a lot of powers under PPACA (Obamacare). Basically its a prohibition on your doctor asking if you use guns or have guns or ammo at home and on the Secy HHS for keeping a record of gun or ammo ownership.

    I see nowhere that it applies to DoJ, Attorney General, ATFE, etc.

  17. ++

    and if anyone still believes they haven’t read the bill yet, well,
    lets just say that bridge is not only sold, but washed out.. :-(

    TIS WE THE PEOPLE AND ONLY WE THE PEOPLE WHO DO
    NOT KNOW WHAT’S COMING UP THE OBAMACARE ROAD..

    inch by foot by yard by mile.. :mad:

    ==

  18. #9 January 12, 2013 at 3:32 pm
    Gregor commented:

    You’re a Democrat interested in hampering the investigations, right? Really, what would give the Democrats more pleasure than to watch this very effective Oversight committee chair being beaten up by a bunch of wild-eyed zealots demanding immediate results without due process? That IS almost how they try to characterize him, now. If you don’t think so, check up on what Elijah Cummings has had to say.

    Yeah, getting the Republicans to “eat their own” is a big game for Democrats. It only works if you fail to educate yourselves about the issues, and about our procedures.



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