Chicago Police Chief: We’ll Shoot Licensed Civilians With Guns

During an interview on radio station WVON 1690 am this week Chicago’s Police Chief Gary McCarthy surprised listeners when he commented on the upcoming concealed carry law that must be passed in Illinois within the next six months. McCarthy made a scary prediction that citizens carrying legally could be shot by Chicago police.
News in Black reported, via Guns Save Life:

“You put more guns on the street expect more shootings,” McCarthy said. “I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”

McCarthy would not say what specific training officers will undertake if any. However, he did admit that in the past his department has made mistakes in shooting unarmed civilians. He believes the concealed carry law will increase those types of unfortunate incidents.

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  • Candy

    Then why don’t you offer training? It helps both parties.

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  • Obamao

    ” but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”

    Jim’s paraphrase is reasonably accurate, the Chief did not even suggest that his subordinates be ‘sweeped’ before shooting anybody with a gun. Feel sorry for the hunter loading up for a weekend in the field. Feel less sorry for the hunter who sees the Chief’s peon first.

  • bg


    why do so many youths and criminals have so
    many guns in the “Gun Free Zone Chicago”??

    are cops shooting innocent civilians because they are just as strong,
    just as powerful and just as corrupt as the enemy they need to arm
    themselves against because police are obviously failing Chicagoans??

    /truth sarc/


  • Servo1969

    Why doesn’t he just come out and say it:
    “We’re the only people who should be allowed to have guns. If we see you holding a gun we’re going to shoot you. Then we’ll apologize to your widow.”

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  • SurlyMonk

    With all the deaths in Chicago and the illegally obtained guns, why does this man still have a job?

  • Like police officers are the only ones who know how to properly use a gun…

  • Lim Lynn

    Trained legal firearms with license are highly trained Mc Cathy you are thoroughly wrong. Putting guns and rifles will save numerous lives and recipe for disaster for criminals who will complain to Biden, Bloomberg and Barack Hussein Obama.

  • Obamao

    With all the deaths in Chicago and the illegally obtained guns, why does this man still have a job?

    Those with family killed are up to their armpits in shiite. They see the chief as only, at most, up to their navels. If they saw the chief as being more responsible he would be in early retirement without a pension after the next funeral.

  • gastorgrab

    Just how often are the police called on legal gun owners.

    They are more likely to be called BY legal gun owners.

  • Catmman

    So because his officers can’t be trusted to not shoot unarmed civilians, legally licensed and trained civilians shouldn’t be allowed to carry firearms?

  • Chicago marxists believe that only the thugs should have guns,maybe if law-abiding citizens where allow to carry the gun-deaths in america’s most bloody city would drop…….this is just more cazy talk from anti-gun crowd..

  • gastorgrab

    Just a reminder;

    There is a remote possibility that the legal gun owner you are telling your officers to shoot WILL OUT-GUN the officers.

    I hope you aren’t writing a check that your ass cant cash.

  • mark1973

    Yep. Just what i want to do…Relinquish my God Given Second Ammendment Right’s so This Chicago thug and Obama/Rham crony, can have a monopoly on violence.

    If there is any more proof needed,on why we need Firearms to counter an out of control tyrannical government, this chief is it. Keep talking lefties and we’ll add even more numbers to the already overwhelming majority of Americans who don’t want to take one step back on our God Given Second Ammendment Right’s!

  • bg


    July 14, 2012

    Crime rates in Chicago and DC drop
    after gun control laws are struck down



  • gastorgrab

    A government “of the people” derives it authority to govern through it’s citizens own established rights. ‘We The People’ cannot empower our police force with any authority outside our own, as individual citizens. If the citizens don’t have the right to bare arms, neither can the police.

    “…..Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. THAT TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS GOVERNMENTS ARE INSTITUTED AMONG MEN, deriving their just power from the consent of the governed….”

  • Rock

    Sounds like El Chief is no more than a union goon threatening those who do not cow down, oh well the the poor slobs in Chi town deserve no better given their preference to free stuff over working for a living. On the up side with each day since Sandy Hook the Left produces some idiot who steps up and reinforces the Founders rational for the 2nd.

  • Patty

    That is a bunch of Bull C@%#!

  • Speechmamacita

    As if City/Chicago would hire anyone for his job that was not corrupt and upheld the Constitution…it’s part of the Chicago-way job description…..Sheriff Arpaio need not apply….what creeps they are…but look at what crawled out of the Chicago ooze….Obama, M. Obama, Emmanuel, Holder…ad infinitude, ad nauseum.

  • Patty

    That is a bunch of Bull C@%#!

    Mayor Rahm Emanuel appointed Garry F. McCarthy, former director of the Newark, New Jersey, Police Department, as Superintendent; this was approved by the City Council on June 8, 2011. McCarthy is the highest paid city employee with an annual salary of $260,004.

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  • Danny

    So the good police chief is attributing his officers’ shooting people on gun laws? This man has no business being in law enforcement, much less titling himself “Chief”.

    Real leaders don’t lay blame, they take responsibility for their actions and the actions of those under them.

    He has absolutely zero concept of what effective leadership is.

  • Police are public officials and thus not part of the militia envisioned by the Founders, but armed citizens are.

    ‘ “I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.”

    — George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788’

    ‘ “Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American…[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.”

    –Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.’

    Right to Keep and Bear Arms

    If police were to shoot licensed law obeying citizens they would be acting as tyrants.

  • Rock

    Sounds to me he just threaten legal citizens, and gave his officer carte blanche to commit murder. An officer of the law, what a fragging joke.

  • Rachelle

    Of course they will shoot law abiding citizens. They are afraid to shoot at the gang members.

  • Smarty

    I guess Chicago cops are stupid, corrupt and cowardly. Another reason why sane white people don’t live there.

  • SomethingWicked

    If the Chicago police are as “highly trained” as the New York cops that shot 9 innocent bystanders last year (while the shooter only shot his intended victim) then please leave me at the mercy of the Untrained. Why do the anti- gun folks think being a policeman makes you a superhero. High incident of alcohol abuse, spousal abuse, stress related mental disorders, etc. Low pay so they are not exactly attracting the best and the brightest in the inner cities because those who are the best move to higher paying and safer suburb jobs. These are the people you want to give over complete control to? Every time i see someone in law enforcement come out against gun rights I want to ask them if when they got at the end of their shift they had to go home without their gun would they still feel the same? Its easy to ask others to give up their protection when you know you and your family will still have theirs . When seconds count, the police are only Minutes away (if you are lucky) The police do not stop crime, they apprehend criminals after crimes are committed (and they dont even do that all that well)

  • Look-Out

    Why does ANYONE live in Chicago?

    Sounds like an absolute s*)thole.

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  • Practical Jane

    His nervous. He knows CCW will lower the crime rate, and that ain’t good for his Master’s Agenda.

    When seconds matter the police are only minutes away. I carry everyday. No policeman knows. If I were in a position where I needed to shoot then more than likely there’s no policeman there. So, his little diatribe is moot.

  • Trevor (@tjexcite)

    when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire

    If you point a gun at a cop you deserve to get shot. If you have a person on the ground and are holding them for the cops to come when they pull up you re-holster your gun and get your CCP ready. This is nothing new and if you point anything at a cop even a cell phone will get you shot anywhere.

  • lincoln’s widow

    So what? Let them all shoot each other up. Who the eff cares?

  • Big Al

    This clown is exactly what the problem is in Chicago. Instead of taking care of business he is acting as a leftist political hack. The answer to chicago’s problem has always been tough strong policing ala NYPD under Giuliani, but they won’t do it….so they have their chief f**king around with political sh*t like this. C’mon a**hole, start sweeping the south side in force and stop and frisk aggressively. Get the job done and shut the f**k up.

  • Tricky Dick

    This man is a moron and unfit for the office he holds. We have concealed carry in my state and you never hear of a situation where a police office is confronted by, been shot by or had to shoot someone who has a license to carry.

  • Rock

    I suppose Holder staying at Justice may be the best of two evils, this man sounds like someone DingleBerry Soetoro would have put at Justice, or worse head of the FBI (Fragging Barry’s Informant).

  • jtb012u340

    These people running this country are nothing but paranoid pyschos and emotional unstable. They are power mad. Then again, that’s what sin is, it is MADNESS.

  • Rock

    In many states if pulled over by Law Enforcement you are required to announce you have a weapon in the car, sounds like in Chicago that might end tragically. While slightly OT I have of late noticed that some officer upon approaching the car will not let the driver or anyone else get a word in, then once you do inform him you end up being harassed or even arrested for not declaring the gun immediately.

  • oldflyer

    Sounds like it is past time to disarm the cops.

    This is not the first indication that they are going out of control. There have been multiple shootings of unarmed civilians by cops in southern California recently.

  • Milwaukee

    Well, what if a person was an armed drug dealer? Let’s say police came storming into his apartment, he would have the right to shoot them, because they’re planning on shooting him, since he is armed. What about licensed non-drug dealer? The head cop has just announced a “shoot on sight” policy. When your gun is out, should you shoot the cops first, because you now know that they are planning on capping your sorry self.

    While revolvers usually carry fewer rounds than automatics, revolvers aren’t spitting out used brass. Carry a revolve, take your brass home with you, and don’t answer any questions without a lawyer.

  • As if the police are “highly trained”; at best, they may spend some range-time once a quarter, and more likely less. Beyond that point though is the ridiculous contention that more background checked, trained concealed carry people will contribute to more shootings does not match up well with the record of states who have long had concealed carry.

  • dave

    If the officers in his department have made mistakes in shooting unarmed civilians…he needs to get more training for his officers or take away there weapons.

  • Barracuda

    Ok, since cops are already shooting people, including people who are unarmed, there’s a simple solution: Disarm the Chicago Police Department.

  • Rlrork

    This is one cop deserving of the title pig. It would not break my heart to see this guy taken out by his beloved gang members Chicago loves to protect so much, and I’m a former police officer. This is the kind of guy who gives cops a bad name. This guy is too mentally ill to carry a gun. Why on Gods green earth do you people up there put up with scum like him. When will you learn these guys want the murder rate to soar. That ensures easy contracts and big bucks for the police unions. Every state that has a meaningful concealed carry law the crime rate plummets. It works in 49 other states just fine but evidently Chicago politicians think Chicago citizens are so stupid they can’t handle concealed carry. Maybe they are right since you all keep voting in morons like Mayor Deadfish who appoint scum like this. Sen. Emil Jones Jr. Told me personally that his constituents were.

  • Rlrork

    Chicago cops are dirtbags.

  • lincoln’s widow

    How hard is this? You point ANYTHING at a cop, then you are asking for it. Period, full stop, end of story. CCW does not guarantee you the right to point your gun or cell phone or whatever at a cop with out subsequent repercussions. Period. You wanna gamble? You want play wild wild west? Do as you’re effing told by the designated authorities and you won’t invite trouble. Declare your frikin weapons to a cop if you don’t want your arse shot off. Anyone doing anything like crossing the cops in Chicago is D-U-M-B stupid. You think you could do a better job policing a city like Chicago? Most of you would piss your pants. Stuff your false bravado.

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  • Highlander

    Lincoln’s Beeyotch …who said anyone was going to be pointing their guns at the police? You’re terminally stupid ….

  • AuntieMadder

    “…when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire…”

    Sounds fair enough to me. I hate that cops in many cities can’t protect themselves but, instead, have to get shot first.

  • Carol-Christian Soldier

    West point grad / veteran – killed by police – las vegas-at costco–
    nothing new about police un-justly killing a licensed gun carrier–

  • Soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan have more restrictions in the field than these police. They are going to get a rude awakening when today’s race riots turn into a hot and bloody race war. These police are setting themselves up to get shot from both sides. It’s either wake up or die chief. What’ll it be, hmmm? Creativity is the only solution: RaHoWa!

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  • ChongRRMC

    Time to start shooting back…..

  • xiphos

    Isn’t this the same clown that asked where Sarah Palin was while he was at a crime scene?
    Political hack……….nothing more.

  • chuker

    License ti kill

  • tysmwest

    So I guess my response would be to begin to identify “well Trained” (Ha) law enforcement officers as potential threats and when approached by one…assume hostile intent and engage….yep that’s going to work real well for the cops….

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  • Jim

    Fire this crooked prick right now. While there at it should get rid of that tutu wearing ballerina they refer to as mayor

  • Sure that’ll fix it! Does this dude know that the criminals are laughing at him? Seriously??

  • NavySeal

    I have a question, of the 534 homicides In Chicago, was any of the unarmed civilians police shot & killed part of that number? And if not, I wonder how many homicides there really were?

  • Exile1981

    Just after high school I worked the day shift at a video store in a strip mall. One day the night girl called in sick and I worked a double shift. That evening a drunk who was way bigger than me came in with a knife and threatened me if I didn’t sell him Lysol. Since we didn’t sell Lysol I explained that he needed to go next door to the drug store (they where closed for the evening).

    He got violent and tried to stab me across the counter so I dropped under it and hit the panic button and told the alarm company and the cops who they connected me to what was happening. A knife wielding drunk trying to stab me and they could hear him yelling for me to come out so he could ‘cut me’. The cops told me that it would be 20-30 minutes for a officer to arrive then they hung up.

    Luckily for me about 10 minutes after they hung up the guy set his knife on the counter and went outside to vomit. I jumped the counter and locked the door behind him. For 40 minutes he beat on the door and tried to get in. I have never been so scared in my life. The cops never arrived that night. A week later during my normal day shift a police officer showed up asking my boss to sign a release form saying they were not at fault for failing to show up when called. Seems they dispatched a cruiser but then diverted it before it arrived and never sent another one. In the end the only thing they did was take the knife because it was over legal length.

    Imagine if it had been the girl whose shift I was covering there? She was 5’8″ and 98lbs soaking wet. A skinny little thing vs. a violent drunk with a large knife.

    So I always say when seconds count, the police won’t show.

  • NavySeal

    Correction-532 homicides, not 534

  • Robert

    So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that.

    This is an immature, unprofessional statement of emotionalism. This blowhard is full of it, saying that he will adjust police training to account for the perceived immediate crisis, and admitting that it will cause tragedies.

    This is not professionalism, it is the politicization of emotion, displayed by one, the so-called chief of the police force, who should not be swayed by this type of impulse.

  • dochunter

    Critical thinking like the Police Chief’s is why Chicago is the way it is. It’s the Democratic way!!!

  • Conservative Ken

    Well Chief. If that’s the Chicago way, then your proud city is taking absolute responsibility for the safety of everyone in Chicago by taking away the primary means of self protection. The next person who is shot in Chicago (which should be in about 30 seconds) needs to sue the city for Millions in Federal Court.

  • Multitude

    The white chief of police of Chicago just said he expects his officers will shoot peaceful, legally-carrying black citizens?

    Where the hell is the United States Attorney General, a black man, on this? He should be throwing this Klansman in prison for the terrorism implicit in the accusation. Where’s the NAACP? Certainly they know the history of gun regulations was to keep “negros” from being able to defend themselves from white, powerful men (who had no difficulty getting weapons, much akin to all the powerful men today who have hired mercenaries who protect their homes, children at school and workplaces).

  • Kissmygrits

    Yeah, McCarthy, since your’re doing such a bang up job of protecting the citizens of the windy city, might as well shoot some law abiding ones, too. When only the criminals have guns, will you do your job?

  • JackJohnson

    If a supposed conceal carry civilian is openly brandishing a gun in hand in public, they are breaking the law.

    What do you think conceal carry means?

  • Arnonerik

    The authorities in Chicago have shown they cannot control gun violence, they cannot protect the citizens, and now threaten to shoot law abiding citizens themselves. They are incapable of adequately performing even basic government functions.
    I left Chicago 40 years ago. They were corrupt then and now have added “inadequate” along with corrupt to their resumes. I wonder if they ever held an honest election in Chicago if the Democrats would still be elected? How do you fix stupid?

  • Highlander

    Jack, a CCW is NOT breaking the law by “brandishing” a firearm if they are in the process of engaging a threat. The scenario of citizens running around waving their guns in everyone’s faces is ridiculous, it’s FANTASY …. but that the one that all the mental midgets on the left seem to want to envision. CCW permit holders receive plenty of training, and they are well aware of the laws. They are also well aware of the fact that they would be in serious danger if an armed officer happens to arrive in the middle of a confrontation. However, when you’re fighting to save you own life, you do what you have to do, and hope that any officer who arrives on the scene has the sense to THINK before he shoots.

    There is absolutely no excuse for allowing an anti-second amendment chief of police to encourage his officers to shoot first and ask questions later. He should be fired immediately …

  • firefirefire

    If you needed a better reason to flee the democrat run cities for the red states I could hardly come up with a better one.
    The police can’t protect you from the scum of society and they can’t protect you from themselves either.

    it’s over.
    God help us.

  • YourMaster

    shouldn’t he be shooting the Secret Service then…
    they are in clear violation of any gun restriction laws by carrying guns. bwahaha…

  • Sandy

    This is like the Wild West and The Civil War rolled into one. If you have a half assed law which allows for gun owners to carry only those guns which are declared legal by a new gun law — then you are asking for tragedy. The police are not going to check their list to see if your model gun is legal before shooting you. You have the red states trying to get around any gun law while the blue states are strengthening their anti gun laws.

    Divide and Conquer is the name of this sad chapter in our lives.

  • Lim Lynn

    Please stay safe and be on guard if you are in the blue states cause you in for the roughest Wild West Sheriff most corrupted in the entire World and you only the strongest and fittest cowboy ready to protect the sickly, elderly, innocent young in the community. 2013 will start to be the roughest way you have to deal with them.

  • Big Bad Jim

    That works both ways Chief.

    Keep your hands where I can see ’em, meat hole.

  • RKflorida

    This man is a liar.
    1. I’m to believe that the cops are “Highly Trained”? Bah! Not even close.
    2. Citizens with CC permits are carrying their weapons CONCEALED. What’s with this inflammatory “if they turn around with a gun in their hand” garbage?
    3. How nice of him to condescend to train his people that there might be a citizen with a legally held gun! You arrogant ass, that’s called the 2nd amendment, get used to it, the rest of the nation knows about it.
    4. Finally, if the cops allow this ass-hat to speak for them, maybe they ought to consider that shooting citizens because they have a gun might just have a teensy little downside. Remember, some of those citizens actually ARE highly trained in gun usage.

  • iconoclast

    Umm, Chief?

    You do know that there are county, state and federal plainclothed agents who legally carry firearms, right? You do recognize that, right? And shooting one of them just because they have an exposed sidearm will get your officer, and your department, in a heap of trouble.

    Incompetent, corrupt, and stupid is no way to go through life. Even in Chicago, fool.

  • Jeremy

    Politicians always warn about an increase in shootings whenever concealed carry laws are passed, and yet they have never happened. What does happen is an immediate and sharp decrease in violent crime. Look at next-door neighbor Wisconsin where Democrats whined about shoot-outs which never materialized, and are still complaining about citizens legally carrying fire-arms after a year where crimes decreased while gun crimes went up 36% in one WEEK in gun-free Chicago

  • Mannie

    Gary McCarthy has just demonstrated that he is nothing more than a thug and a criminal. In a just world, he would be taken out and hanged.

  • Noovuss

    Why does it not surprise me that a LEO union member would shoot a non-union citizen?
    Unions doing what they always do, terrorizing innocent people.

  • Steve

    Yeah, the media was saying the same thing about this in other states that passed concealed carry laws..OMG, crime is going to go up, there will be mass hysteria….and guess what….NEVER happened…actually crime when down, and from what I hear about Chicago, that would be a good thing….

  • htom

    If I was an undercover cop in Chicago I’d be afraid. Very afraid.

  • NoResolution

    So just go around murdering people with legal guns. That’s the way to make the murder rate go down in HomicideChicago. What do they put in the water in Chicago? Stupid pills? Next year there will be 700 homicides.

  • sablegsd

    This insane, power mad commiecrat needs to be exterminated.

  • This kind of BS headline is what gives conservatism a bad name. I hate this kind of rabid far right extremist hyperbolic nonsense. It’s awful. Is ANYTHING wrong with this? “When somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire.” Amen to that. Officers are NOT bound to have to let the person with a gun shoot at them first. THINK PEOPLE. Think.

  • bg


    Smarty #27 January 12, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    not a smart comment, insanely racist
    perhaps, but definitely not smart.. 🙄


  • bg


    Trevor (@tjexcite) #33 January 12, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    totally agree..


  • bg


    oldflyer #40 January 12, 2013 at 11:39 pm

    that you Piers-hole??


  • GooseIowaAir

    The City Government is just fine with 500 murders. Just don’t try to defend yourself. Now there’s some REAL criminals.

    Corrupt Mayor, Corrupt City Council, Corrupt PD–The house that Dick built.


  • bg


    Rock #37 January 12, 2013 at 11:13 pm\

    choosing between two evils is how we got where we
    are today.. we need to start choosing good over evil,


  • bg
  • MJ

    I’m a retired police officer. I don’t know how many rounds that Chicago PD officers are required to fire annually but at my old dept in metro Atlanta, we fired 50 rounds in the Spring and 30 in the fall to qualify. I was one of the few “gun guys” there and shot a lot more. The vast majority of cops only shoot enough to qualify. People that are serious about protecting themselves and their families are better trained and prepared than most police officers.

  • GD

    What a moron….I suppose he supports victims using the fetal position when attacked by criminals

  • WuzYoungOnceToo

    It’s interesting that 49 other states have some form of concealed and/or open carry laws, most of them “shall issue” in the case of the concealed variant, and yet they don’t experience the results that the Chief claims are the consequences of such policies. In fact those states’ major cities all have lower…in most cases FAR lower…rates of violent crime (including those involving guns) than does his own city, where what he considers to be the more enlightened policy is in force.

    The stupidity is simply breathtaking.

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  • Chicago Chief of Police declares war on legal gun owners. Good job, Chief, now _everybody_ has need to be afraid of the Police.

  • [email protected]

    I have to admit with a total ban on gun in the city of Chicago and they have one of the countries highest Murder Rate. Some how I think this transplanted former NYPD Commissioner has been smoking the wacky weed.

  • Terry

    Never mind that the first sentence out of his mouth is demonstrably false.

  • Despiser

    Pardon me but the people of Chicago were just told the Govt is at War with them. As always throughout history GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM.

    We are surrounded by a Crime syndicate on one side and the gang bangers on the other.

  • @ Rock..I was just thinking the same thing. Sure sounds like a threat to me.

  • Bobby99

    ChiefY, you are an Idiot trying a scare tactic against legal, law abiding citizens. WHAT makes you think and want only criminals and cops to be armed? I used to to to Chicago weekly on business and have seen your police dept in action….. SAD Group … very sad.

  • ChillytheAlaskan

    Armed citizens have a better record of not shooting innocent people than the police.

    Myth: Citizens are too incompetent to use guns for protection
    Fact: About 11% of police shootings kill an innocent person – about 2% of shootings by citizens kill an innocent person. The odds of a defensive gun user killing an innocent person are less than 1 in 26,000 despite American citizens using guns to prevent crimes almost 2,500,000 times every year.
    Gun Facts Version 6.1 Page 32
    Copyright 2012, Guy Smith All Rights Reserved

    If we want to stop police from shooting innocent citizens, we should make them RESPONSIBLE, like we do concealed carry citizens. Allow them personally to be sued, or sent to prison for wrongfull shootings. These shooting would stop VERY quickly if individual officers were held responsible, as the used to be.

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  • theBuckWheat

    These people have had their way in power for so long, the culture of corruption is part of their culture. But one question: if this is true, it is impossible to work security in that city. But people do, so how much of this is vapid bravado and how much is a conspiracy to deprive citizens of their civil rights?

  • Gary Sheehan

    After reading this article and having seen a number of episodes of the TV show COPS I am left with impression a majority of US Cops are halfwits! It certainly seems to be the case in Chicago. A solution may be to STOP recruiting from the lower end of the gene pool, including for the position of Police Chief!

  • bg


    March 2, 2012

    Chicago Police Dept. Embraces Hamas Front

    [The NYPD has been criticized for surveillance programs, nearly all of which involved activity and material in the public domain, of Muslim subjects including the Muslim Students Association. As the Investigative Project on Terrorism reported last week, the MSA was created by the Muslim Brotherhood and has a disturbing history of spawning people involved in terrorist plots and spewing radical rhetoric.

    By yielding to CAIR pressure, the city’s top police officer will share the microphone with an imam tied to a Hamas-support network which court papers indicate was responsible for CAIR’s very creation.]

    more at link, in connecting links, and threads..


  • John C. Randolph

    McCarthy is not, and has never been a lawman. He is an obedience enforcement minion. That’s why he’s so afraid of anyone else possessing the means to defend themselves.


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  • Highlander

    #86 – “when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”

    No Jimmy Z, this kind of BS is what gives gun grabbers and authoritarian thugs in law enforcement a bad name. The assumption that ANY responsible CCW permit holder is going to “turn” on a police officer with a firearm in their hand is RIDICULOUS. We’ve all been trained to understand the rules and responsibilities that go with carrying concealed, and IDENTIFYING YOURSELF as a permit holder IMMEDIATELY upon any encounter with law enforcement is one of the primary rules. Considering the fact that it typically takes minutes, if not hours for police to respond to a violent crime scene, there is a 99.9% chance that the incident is going to be over and the weapon back in it’s holster long before the police arrive on the scene. The endless stream of hysterical comments and misguided rhetoric coming from people like you who have no practical knowledge of gun ownership or CCW rights and responsibilities is getting real old real fast ….

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  • Blackrobe

    If you are trained properly, you know that you NEVER point your firearm at something you don’t plan to shoot. If a “responsible gun owner” is in public, sweeping a crowd and happens to point his firearm at LE, then he isn’t a responsible gun owner.

    The 2nd amendment gives us the right to bear arms. It doesn’t free us from the consequences of being irresponsible.

  • cpddet

    Im a cop in Chicago, beleive me this guy McCarthy is a moron.

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  • Rick Miller

    As a Chicago Police Officer, I can say that this idiot DOES NOT speak for me or most I know. I will also say this. The times I have had my pistol pointed at someone, it didn’t matter who they were as much as what they were doing. So if you carry a gun in my area, and many do, don’t do stuff like sell drugs, point it at people and ask for their Iphone, or wallets, or shoot it towards people who’s manner of dress and hand gestures don’t match yours. These are simple, effective ways to protect yourself and those with you.
    I will also offer these two pieces of advise for those interested in carrying a concealed firearm. #1. Get yourself a copy of Massad Ayoob’s book “In the Gravest Extreme”. It will provide you with a great short course in common sense gun-carrying.
    #2. Adopt a limit. I don’t touch my gun unless someone has done something that will be punishable by death. If I touch it and it comes out, someone is going to be shot and stopped. Their action will be likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm to my loved ones, myself, or another (in that order of priority) If it’s property related, no problem. Before I adopted this philosophy, I almost killed a young man for trying to steal my neighbors Christmas decorations. Try living with that.

  • Steve Czaja

    This is starting to become dangerously arrogant. For a Police Chief to speak this way about legally armed citizens is disgraceful! He needs to be run the hell out of office and take a job in Cuba, where Police are free to do almost everything with impunity!

  • Kafir

    This di.ckhead should be shot…just sayin’…

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  • Kevin

    First off, it doesn’t happen in the other states, why would you anticipate it happening here?

    And Secondly, with modern police hitting their targets 10-15% overall they had best think long and hard about shooting at legal civilians who hit their targets 80% plus.

    This stupid thinking is why he was appointed by their goofy, tax sucking, shoo in of a mayor.

    Is it any wonder, a city and state so obviously run by organized crime, doesn’t want honest citizens armed to protect themselves.

  • Troy Christman

    And your officers are highly trained? They couldn’t find their asses with both hands and a map.everyone knows cops are the worse gun handlers there are. Dont believe me, go ask your police department’s armourers.

  • Jones

    It isn’t like they don’t shoot first and ask questions later already. So I guess the question is, this changes what?

    protect and serve…is a joke

  • bg


    Highlander #112 January 14, 2013 at 1:17 am

    ergo, there’s nothing to worry about, i mean, legal conceal and carry
    owners should be are safe, not targets, which is unfortunately what
    this IslaMarxist police chief is proffering..

    meanwhile back in reality land, anyone who holds a gun on a cop is,
    as they very well should be, subject to being shot, yes, no questions


  • bg


    re: #125 January 14, 2013 at 4:24 pm bg

    be are safe = be safe

    eh, pardon typo’s/errors..


  • Jeremy

    We have to wait on insurgents to fire first in war but this guy is telling his subordinates to fire on Americans first. Why is it this guy has a job? I assume some of you are from Chicago is this guy for real?

  • Brian

    There is a lot of stupidity in this comment thread. First of all to address the Mayor’s comment: If you are concealed carrying you shouldn’t have the weapon in hand in public unless you are in a conflict, in which case yes they might shoot an innocent. An officer should never have to “wait to be swept” by anyone. If you have been swept you could already have been killed. By choosing to concealed carry you accept the responsibility that you may be interpreted as a threat to law enforcement so you should positively identify yourself.

  • Douglas Jones

    This man is a moron He just told us his officers don’t verify that the person with a gun is the suspect and we will shoot first ask questions later He is certainly over paid 260K he is not worth 50K

  • Andrew

    Somebody should not be a police chief, let alone have a job in law enforcement.

  • jamal

    2 things
    1: I have better aim and training then my friend who is a police officer.
    2. this guy is supposed to be saving lives, he is announcing tgat innocent people will die. why in the hell is he still a police cheif?

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  • Mark

    Chicago is going the way of Detroit, Philly, Baltimore and most cities in NJ. It’s a hole, that needs to be avoided by any productive person. Leave the place to the irresponsible people who have taken over.

  • What an idiotic statement. Were did this guy come from.

  • StillInMO

    Does this officer realize that almost every other state has concealed carry and these types of incidents don’t occur? I think maybe he should venture out to a free state sometime and see that the public is not the enemy.

  • rightswatcher

    Maybe this police chief forgets that the police in this country are civilians and also that citizens have a legal right to defend themselves using lethal force, against out of control cops. Therefor, taking the ignorant rant of this so called police chief under consideration, the people might consider the mere presence of a cop a hazard to their well being and take immediate action to terminate that hazard. With attitude toward the citizens by this badge carrying moron, the citizens should demand that this cop be immediately removed from any position of authority. This cop is not a dictator, either is the mayor.

  • Da Doctor

    This man should be demoted to the rank of patrolman and should be transferred to the worst preceinct in Chicago. This is exactly the reason the general public hates police officers today.

  • longun45

    Since this guy is not only wrong, but his statements run counter to what actually happens with CCW. More guns in the hands of the people = less crime. The chief must also support keeping black children ignorant like the teachers union in Chicago does.
    It’s time to tax Unions heavily as they lie to the America.

  • chrisb

    Then I hope if that happens the state comes and puts you and the guilty party who shot a licensed gun owner.That is the same as any other criminal killing someone.Now that you have said it that means hen it happens they have you saying what you will do so premeditated….

  • Darl

    He is telling the public that he will make the stats go up in shooting to make his point of not having civians carrying guns. He will invoke his will one way or another. I’m starting to believe that those pushing for gun control have an agenda and they are making sure that they can do their thing without worrying of retaliation

  • Spoon

    That sound’s like a formal declaration of WAR of the Chicago Machine/PD against the citizens. The dumbass Chief is just inviting trouble. May the citizens have mercy on the family members of any officer that participates in aggressive, unprovoked acts of mayhem upon the people there!

    OR…we could apply the standard and just, “kill ’em all and let God sort them out” when it comes to the politicals and alleged keepers of an OATH and the Peace.

  • Sean

    So let me get this straight… The rules of engagement (ROE) are going to be stricter for our fighting men overseas in Afghanistan, then they are for the Chicago police? When I was in Iraq we had to have “Hostile Intent”, before engaging. The mere act of having a weapon did not constitute hostile intent. Pointing it me or firing did. I’m pretty sure we had better training then the Chicago Police.


  • Wendy Weinbaum

    I have news for that fat pig, Jim Hoft. The cops are not “returning fire” if they have not been shot at! They are STARTING it! The American is them free to use any amount of violence he likes to defend himself from the perv cops. PERIOD!

  • Jim Thompson

    He’s a Idiot ! Needs to be HUNG !

  • John Nolan

    Maybe the Chief needs to cycle his officers through our and other Sheriff’s offices down here in southern New Mexico where we deal with legal and illegal carry every day 99.9% without fratricides occurring. We can show them how.

  • Jim Farmer

    To Exile 1981: I’m glad you survived this ordeal. You are indeed fortunate. Bear in
    mind the police have no legal duty to protect individuals, or to respond to a 911
    call. Read “Dial 911 and Die!” via This issue has already long been
    ruled on by the courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Now……for that rotten anti-gun politically appointed police chief: He appears to be
    the moral equivalent of Stalin’s ruthless Soviet NKVD police boss and executioner
    Lavrenti Beria! His ass must go!

  • 45Auto

    This lethargic goon, Gary McCarthy. How about the times spent in a war zone I had to respect the fact it was their (muslim) country and can only return fire unless fired upon. Any cop that shoots without being engaged is an untrained, premature, trigger happy dip s**t. They are to use their weapon for self-defense purposes as well.
    How long did it take for cops to arrive at the Aurora theatre, just under 2 minutes after the call was placed (12 Killed, 58 others wounded). If a CCW person would have ended the threat (kill Holmes) the CWW would have been the target of untrained cops. How is this professional?

  • Brent

    See the cops before they see you. Simple.

  • Idrenak

    We hold our soldiers to not firing until they are fired upon. Let’s have it one way or the other. Not separate rules for Chicago police.

  • Silence Dogoode

    Got news for you chief. There are millions of CCP holders that shoot with better mechanics and with more accuracy than your “highly trained” police officers.Additionally they have too because you take 15 to 40 minutes to respond to crimes being perpetrated by human beings and not inanimate objects. People do not want to consent through fiat to be raped, assaulted, and murdered while YOU do nothing. Look at what you have done. You have openly advocated and supported assassinating law abiding citizens of this nation. You have declared war on those following the laws. You have enabled the death squads and tyrants (gangs, criminals, etc…) and you have openly admitted a willingness to use them to further your own agenda. Congratulations Herr Himmler. Hitler would be proud. Somewhere Mao, Stalin, Lenin, and Hitler must be laughing their asses off.

  • Jim Thompson

    Shoot first,ask questions later ? Do something about the Gang’s in your City. Before you start shooting people for NO REASON ! That’s Murder,and You need to be Jailed !!!

  • Bill

    Chicago is part of Illinois. Gun free state that ensures criminals are the only ones now that carry guns. The police in that lovely state are not trained to an appropriate level to be able to differentiate between unarmed citizens and criminals. It truly is a problem to expect them to differentiate between legally armed citizens and criminals.

  • 3025Al

    I hope this useless liberal anti-gun chief reads thee comments. He represents what’s wrong with our nation today. He has just said his officers will shoot peo0ple without discretion. This can mean if a law abiding citizen tries to help an officer will he also be shot? Yes chief, there is a great chance more people will be shot; more innocent people – by your officers. Chief,m you are a failure. Chicago has passed the all-time high in murders. Your statement is disgraceful and you are a discredit to your profession.

  • Mr. Right To Carry

    Chief Dumb Ass,

    Come out to Arizona and try that! You would observe first hand how B.R. vests work! You need a mental health exam…and you would find out they would take your firearm.

  • David

    A lawful gun owner isnt going to point a gun at police. If they do, then they deserve to get shot. Comments made py the poor excuse of a police chief sould be cause for concer. Did he infact disquise his wording telling police to shoot anyone with a gun regardless if they are permitted to carry or not? Thats what it sounded like to me. He should be removed f4rom office for citing violence.

  • JeffbinTX

    So I guess they’ll be shooting plain-clothed officers – maybe FBI, maybe DEA, maybe ATF, etc. What a moron! I’d say that’s grounds for firing this a$$hole.

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  • S

    How can you “return” fire if you have not been fired upon?

  • Bpante

    He has to be kidding. Considering the murder rate in Chicago and this comment, he must be totally incompetant. In my state we have over a million legal conceal carry permits. The ones that are not police are in contact with the police every day. Not a problem. If you are stopped by the police, like for traffic. There is even a procedure to let the officer know you are armed without alarming him or her.

  • Doug

    McCarthy, with all due respect to you and your storied carrier, when it comes to the issue regarding concealed carry you’ve got it all wrong. Cops in other states with CC arent shooting cc holders. Chicago’s Cops do a great job every day. They know how to read people and situations verry well. THEY dispite you and Rom will adapt and do the right things. Oh and another thing as an instructor of firearms, I would go calling your entire.police force highly trained. Your hit percentage is horrible as a police force, and.the biggest reason is you and Rommie dont spend enough money to continue their traing after the accademy. Shooting is a parishable skill. Shame on you….you know better than the nonsense that’s coming out of your mouth.

  • This whole ordeal over the guns of the American people that has been blowen out of portion is not abou safety of the children or citizens. It is to disarm all Americans, so a repeat of history will occur. Look what Hitler did. This police chief is mad just like all the other leaders have become. If he wants to condemn himself to hell, fine with me, but the men and women he is asking to shoot innocent people should have a choice to thier future destiny. This man is a disgrace to his uniform.

  • Tommy F.

    You have got to be an idiot to live in a city like Chigago, New York, D.C. And even MORE of an idiot to be a cop there.

  • RLM

    sounds like a threat to me , should he be arrested for that and judged by the people , hope there are no ccw holders on the jury

  • JIM B

    Please. With all do respect this guy is a political hack.

  • Bill Vincent

    And with the very first legal carrying civilian shot, I’ll personally make sure the ACLU is all over you like a cheap suit, you miserable piece of dirt! And being that you’ve predicted it proving premeditation, I’ll see that you’re criminally prosecuted, as well. Now, you do what you have to, and I’ll do what I have to.

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  • Frank

    So what’s new about Chicago cops shooting first and asking questions later?

  • even a dipstick knows this

    policy starts from the top

  • david mcgrath

    Chief, you better be a bit more careful with you mouth and your officers. Legally armed citizens are now on high alert and you just put your officers live in danger w/ that statement.

  • Steve Douglas

    This sounds like a “Shoot on Sight” order, doesn’t it?

  • Steve Douglas

    Sounds like a “Shoot on Sight” order, doesn’t it?

  • Alessio Ventura

    Wow, people are dying every day in the killing fields of Chicago and this guy is worried about law-abiding citizens and guns? Is he mentally deranged? Like all left leaning Dems and Repubics, reality does not matter, it is fantasy that counts. Look, make all the laws you want, if somebody wants to kill someone else, or kill lots of people, he will find a way. Go to home depot and get some fertilizer and make a bomb. Get yourself hooked up to the illegal gun trade and buy an automatic weapon. All these clowns are doing is disarming the law-abiding American, the person who wants to protect his family, like 99.9% of the populous. Now, at least in NY State and what is likely to spread, the avg citizen is limited to a 7-round clip, which nobody uses, and the bad guys will have much worse. At least give us a fighting chance with a 10 round or 17 round clip in a semi-automatic. I mean this “police chief” knows full well that when police are in a firefight, something called the “fight or flight” response, with lots of adreneline kicks in. Several 10s of rounds are used. So a 7-round clip is a joke. Wake up folks, they are trying to disarm us. If they really cared about gun-related deaths, they would put these criminals away for good, and they would improve our ability to put nut cases away when they show signs of mental sickness, like this monster in CT had shown several times prior. But the libs would never allow society to do that, and so that my friends is a big part of the problem. I suggest we start with the aforementioned chief because he is showing signs of mental illness by virtue of his comments regarding the avg law-abiding citizen.

  • Ten to one, the Cheeeeff has a middle name and it is “Charley”.

    The bum is a loose cannon, just like his pol bosses.

  • Marc Sierra

    Yes you moron, because that is what is happening in every state that has conceal carry, right. Maybe if you get your head out of your fourth point of contact and get a pair you’d admit you can not discard the fact that it works in all other states when your city is the US CAPITOL of MURDER!!! HMMMMM does he know he is a dumb ass? some one should really talk yo him.

  • Marc Sierra

    I hear a lot of talk coming out of this “wind bag” but it is all pointed at the LAW ABIDING citizen. Hey what are you doing to disarm the gang bangers that make our city #1 in murders? WE ALL know what you are trying to do to disarm CITIZENS, now tell us what you are doing to disarm the people that DO NOT folllow the law.. What is this crap. It seems someone knows how to create a high demand job. More killings= the need for more cops! Ohhhhhhhh I get it!

  • Lim Lynn
    New York Governor Cuomo similar to Chicago’s Police Chief Gary McCarthy will be putting his own police force in danger.

  • Axe

    I would hope that a person who is licensed to carry a concealed weapon would never point a gun at a police officer. I would hope a police officer would never shoot someone just because they are holding a gun (not pointed at them)

  • Sharpy

    So when is he going to go to jail for making terroristic threats? He said on the record he is going to shoot, and order his staff to shoot and possibly kill people that are totally innocent. Of any crime whatsoever!

  • TimSingleton

    Another moron who only wants the criminal element armed. I used to be LEO and it seems to me that the politicians are seeking these types out to put them in charge of law enforcement. No real sense of right and wrong, probably would reveal sociopathic tendencies if tested thoroughly and an oversized opinion of their rightful place in the world, murdering innocent civilians is an inconvenience to them, not a real tragedy.

  • Chris Johnson

    Well Mr McDummy, your officers shouldn’t arrive on the scene guns ablazin’ anyway.

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