Top Democrat On Gun Control: “Confiscation Could Be an Option” (Audio)

Top Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo said this about gun control today,
“Confiscation could be an option.”

** Audio here.

The Blaze reported:

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo (D-N.Y.) said Thursday that all options, including confiscation and “mandatory sales to the state,” would be on the table next month when the New York State Legislature debates new gun control measures. The comments were specifically aimed at what might happen should stricter rules be imposed on “assault” weapons and high-capacity magazines.

The governor said he plans on proposing a package of gun legislation in his State of the State address on Jan. 9.

“There’s a big difference of opinion on these issues,” Gov. Cuomo said today during a radio interview with Albany’s WGDJ-AM.

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  • Bigkahuna

    Another option is to bite my @ss Huomo ! It’s unconstitutional and if you try it you will fail. Also if you are dumb enough to try it…..we expect you to have unarmed guards first. Slingshots for you and no more soft drinks either.

  • BurmaShave

    Nazi!

  • cavt

    I think it would be very interesting to see the govt try to confiscate guns from it’s citizens.

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  • Mad Hatter

    As many of you have seen me say in the past week, the Gun Gestapo is out in force. They’re no longer hiding who they are.

  • Granny

    Guns for me but not for thee! You know not a single one of these gun control nuts is going to give up THEIR guns or their body guards’ guns.

  • Jim

    After the first dozen or so “confiscators” get shot, the legislators will crawl back into their slime.

  • bg

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    AND THEY WERE DEAD SERIOUS

    In 1969, Weather Underground founders Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn (who were to become Pres. Obama’s personal friends and associates for many years) put Charles Manson on the cover of their occasional newspaper, “Fire”. At what was billed as a “War Council” in Flint Michigan that same year, Ayers and his comrades took to greeting eachother with “the fork” – three fingers pointed upwards, in honor of Manson. (Google Dohrn’s Flint conference quote on Manson – and Sharon Tate, who was 8 1/2 months pregnant at the time.) In 1972 Ayers dedicated the WU’s manifesto, “Prairie Fire”, to his cultural and political heroes — a list which included Sen. Robert Kennedy’s assassin, Sirhan Sirhan.

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  • ★FALCON★

    Instead of sending some low-level cop to confiscate the guns and get shot, needlessly separated from his kids and family – I suggest that Cuomo do it himself.

    Ordering others to do your dirty work is a Democrat hallmark. If Cuomo truly believes what he says he should have no problem beginning the confiscation himself.

  • Steve

    Wayne LaPierre of the National Rifle Association announces the creation of the National School Shield Program and calls on government to put armed security officers in every school in the nation.

    http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2012/12/full-video-nra-press-conference.html

  • A_Nonny_Mouse

    Are the uber-Leftoids *TRYING* to push us into insurrection??? (Hey, remember all the hollow-point ammo all those non-miltary government departments were reported to be buying last July and August?)

    Or is this just “verbal government cheese” for the Looney-Liberals’ pet (Democ)rats ? (Ya gotta keep ’em riled up and focused on SOMETHING, ya know. Give ’em a “two-minute hate” all day long…)

  • Skandia Recluse

    Not to worry, this is just a negotiating tactic; demand the moon, the sun, the stars, and all the planets. Then make a deal for just the solar system, and call it a compromise.

    So demand confiscation, then settle for no more military style weapons among the general population. Then define military style weapons as …….
    ……and we get to keep our flintlocks, to be used only for re-enacting Civil War battles, and our long bows and broadswords. Until someone massacres a bunch of school kids with a Samurai sword.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo (D-N.Y.) said Thursday that all options, including confiscation and “mandatory sales to the state,” would be on the table next month when the New York State Legislature debates new gun control measures.

    And that’s how they try to do it; bit by bit by bit.

    The voting public is largely so ignorant and stupid, they can’t see it happening, and mostly don’t care until it’s too late, when they finally realize something’s been lost.

  • GotFreedom

    Come and just try to take it. . .you’ll have to pry it from my cold dead hands before I give them up!!!

  • We will need to confiscate the federal government’s guns and ammunition, then.

    ‘In the aftermath of the recent Sandy Hook shooting, Obama and his cohorts are screaming about how they all despise guns and ammo. Guns are the problem in America today, we’ve been told from every corner of the media, and so the only solution is to get rid of all the guns.

    But not exactly. There’s one organization in America that’s loading up on masses of assault rifles and enough ammunition to run a 10-year shooting war. That organization is, of course, the U.S. federal government and its Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which has purchased a total of 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition to be used domestically, inside the United States.

    It begs the question: Why does the Department of Homeland Security — named after Hitler’s “Office of Fatherland Security” — need 1.6 billion rounds of ammo?

    1) DHS does not fight wars with foreign nations. It’s entire theater of operations is on U.S. soil, dealing solely with the American people.

    2) Hollow point ammunition is banned by the Geneva convention and is not used by the U.S. military. This ammunition can only be used domestically, in the United States, against U.S. targets or people.’…

    If Obama is opposed to guns, why did his administration just purchase 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition and sniper rounds?

    Quote from link:

    “An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland.” – Adolf Hitler, 1922.

    That other leftist.

  • Rose IV

    Words. Just words, Words, WORDS!

    Another stupid phucking Democrat farting out his mouth trying to scare the sheep. I’ll tell you what big boy, you want the guns then “COME AND GET THEM!” Let’s just see how that works out for ya, eh?

  • Lady Mondegreen

    The tide is turning. The media is suddenly reporting on every shooting in the country and public opinion is headed toward strong support for gun regulations. This is going to be another wedge issue in 2014, and we’re going to lose even more seats if we are seen as incapable of compromise on guns, gays, and the budget. We’ll win a few battles, but we’ll lose the war. And as for 2016, Cuomo is a very smart politician who has his eye on the White House. Clearly, he sees this as a winning issue and he may well be right.

  • CommieJuice

    PSY performed for 0bama at the white house not long ago. There was a big protest because of the anti-American song PSY sang before Gangnam Style went viral.

    The lyrics in PSY’s anti-American song when talking about Americans (Yankees) – “Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers. Kill them all slowly and painfully.”

    How come this was never brought up? How come 0bama can personally invite and host someone who wants American kids, namely daughters to be killed, but when PSY got his wish and kids including daughters and mothers were murdered, nobody connects the dots or makes the connection. He was at the white house 4 days before Sandy Hook, yet nobody talks about this, only blames it on guns, not on people that 0bama praises and invites personally to perform who had lyrics promoting the very act that happened at Sandy Hook.

  • Freddy

    Seems like every clown, like Cuomo, thinks their dictates can trump the US Constitution.

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  • SeaBass

    How that would shake out is simple. Large groups will gather all over the country, with their guns by right of God and wait for Cuomo’s brownshirts

  • Lady Mondegreen

    #20, Navy Seal, I don’t normally gamble, but I would give you 20 to odds that there will be no uprising and that you have an overly fertile imagination.

  • Grampa

    They will not send a cop to take your guns. Think back to what happened after Katrina. The weapons were taken by men in full tactical gear. You get what you vote for so all the big talk of “come and try it”, or “from my dead hands” is all B.S. When they show up with a Swat team you will piss down both legs like a little girl.

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  • Economan

    This comment has been removed. When posting please be careful not to post something that might be interpreted as a direct threat.

  • Ice

    That rant/comment is grounds for his resignation. He is not ‘advocating’ he is flat out admitting to Violating the Constitution.

  • Remco Kimber

    Scratch a liberal, find a tyrant.

    New research into Adolf Hitler’s use of firearms registration lists to confiscate guns and the execution of their owners teaches a forceful lesson — one that reveals why the American people and Congress have rejected registering honest firearm owners.

    http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/registration_article/registration.html

  • SeaBass

    Oh silly libs, 20 to 1 odds. These are rights by God, not Cuomo or you. Many, many people understand and will mass. Did you see the hundreds of thousands that had Tea Parties? That was over taxes & Obama care.

  • shadow

    Ordering others to do your dirty work is a Democrat hallmark.

    That is why Bush doned a flight suit and led sorties into Iraq during the 2003 invasion.

  • ★FALCON★

    @ Grandpa #23 – have you ever heard the term Live Free Or Die?

    Do you think that ALL Americans are so fat and lazy that they don’t want freedom? That they don’t care?

    I wonder if you know that other country’s build fences to keep people in and America builds ’em to keep people out. Why do you think Cubans will swim 90 miles in shark infested waters? Is it for McDonalds?

    I assure you that many many Americans are just waiting for that final step by this maniacal tyrannical government and they’re gonna get the fight they never thought possible.

  • Granny

    #29 December 21, 2012 at 5:12 pm (Edit)
    shadow commented:

    Ordering others to do your dirty work is a Democrat hallmark.

    That is why Bush doned a flight suit and led sorties into Iraq during the 2003 invasion

    _________

    You are confusing President Bush, who is a licensed pilot qualified to fly military aircraft and thus entitled to actually wear a flight suit and the movie, Independence Day, where the “president” dons a flight suit and leads a forray against an invading alien space ship.

    Sitting presidents do not lead military excursions except in the movies. ROFL

  • ★FALCON★


    #29 December 21, 2012 at 5:12 pm
    shadow commented:

    Ordering others to do your dirty work is a Democrat hallmark.

    That is why Bush doned a flight suit and led sorties into Iraq during the 2003 invasion.

    I order to challenge me to debate you need to provide substance to your inane posts.

    Should you debate me you will be vaporized.

  • Lady Mondegreen

    #28 Seabass, Of course I saw those rallies and I also saw Obama get re-elected by a considerable margin. I am by no means a liberal but I live in the real world where the Tea Party is dead (it just hasn’t realized it yet) and the NRA just demonstrated itself to be completely tone deaf and out of touch. And also, where in the Bible is there a right to guns? Where in the Constitution is there a mention of God? The Constitution was not handed down on Mt Sinai, it was hammered out by men and it can be amended by man and women.

    BTW, I’ll raise the stakes to 50 to 1.

  • brian

    Just want to say they can have my bullets but they’ll get them back one at a time.

  • buffy

    HAHA..this coming from the man who started the housing bubble collapse while he was HUD director under Clinton……..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314

    Anyone checked on his Carry Permit yet? Talk about low hanging fruit.

  • AuntieMadder

    @ Lady Mondegreen #17: Who is “we?” You got a frog in your pocket?

  • Lady Mondegreen

    Really Brian? Whom are you planning to shoot? Or are you, like so many of the “men” who post here, just posturing and blowing hot air?

  • #23 Grampa, you make a valid point – however, if they are going to send a SWAT team to every household in America that has guns to confiscate, I’m thinking it’s not going to be a 3 month program

  • shadow

    Or is this just “verbal government cheese” for the Looney-Liberals’ pet (Democ)rats ? (Ya gotta keep ‘em riled up and focused on SOMETHING, ya know. Give ‘em a “two-minute hate” all day long…)

    OH, THE IRONY!

  • Navy Seal

    I’m just trying to inform the gun owners about what’s coming.. I don’t want mine or anyone else’s back to be turned when it happens… I won’t comment on anything else on GP, thanks!!!!!!

  • shadow

    How come … nobody connects the dots or makes the connection.

    Because most people aren’t delusional, and the ones who are, are generally marginalized, even by the right.

  • shadow

    Why do you think Cubans will swim 90 miles in shark infested waters?

    Cubans swim 90 miles in shark-infested waters? I bet when you were a kid you walked to school barefoot … in the snow … uphill, both ways.

  • JoyO

    This reminds me of when the Democrats passed Obamacare — they didn’t care what the Constitution said then. And, all of this talk about “gun control” proves that they still don’t care about our Constitution. All that is important to Progressive Democrats is that Big Government has the power to control every aspect of our lives. I am glad I am a senior citizen — I really feel sorry for young Americans. They will have to live in the Socialist/Communist world the Progressives are creating. They will be equally poor and have few freedoms. Unfortunately, that seems to be what many of them want.

  • SeaBass

    Oh silly lib, God founded this country as stated by EVERY founding father. A fool speaks without knowledge. Second, did your dear leader’s party win the house? Silly lib, I’m sorry you lack the intellect

  • mark1973

    #33,Obama got “Re-elected through Massive Voter Fraud and nothing else, he couldn’t even draw more than 3,000 people to a rally and that was with Bruce Springsteen fronting for him.

    The mathematics for his re-election don’t even come close to making any sense. 130% turnout in many precints where he “Won” and he got 99% of that vote. What the bleep! You can only have 100% turnout and the odds are more than a million to one that he would get 99% of that. In addition,numerous reports across the country during the early voting of people pushing the touch screen for Romney and it coming out for Obama on the screen. Obama then miraculously won every single Battleground State he had to win except North Carolina How is that possible during an economic depression? All of a sudden the Tea Party just vanished out of thin air even though they had more reason to turn out and vote then in 2010. Actually the Tea Party and Conservatives did vote it’s just that the vote didn’t count.

    They are also trying to tell us that turnout was lower than not only 2008,but 2004 also even thogh eyewitness reports had massive turnout in most areas favorable to Romney across the Country and voter enthusiasm and actual eyewitness turnout in Obama’s areas down. Kinda like what we are seeing right now with our own eyes so far as Firearms legislation. We have less than a Hundred people on television monopolizing the air waves,including Obama telling us “Most” Americans favor new restrictions on Firearms. Yet,we are seeing across the Country million’s of people putting their money where their mouth is and buying anything and everything in Firearms stores. Yep,that sounds like people are really favoring new Assault Weapons Bans to me.sarc. Face it,you liberals are still in the minority and as afraid of this situation as i am,we are not giving in to anymore restriction’s on Firearms. If Obama issues a decree Banning the possesion of any Firearm or Magazine and orders the federal government to confiscate them,it will be ignored and defended against. This is a line we know we can’t allow the government to cross. We know if we turn in our Assault Weapons and high capacity magazines today,they will be back very shortly for our Revolvers and Bolt action Rifles and so on untill they get our steak knives. It will not ever be enough for you statists untill you enslave and then Murder all of us and then after that you will turn on yourselves. But you can’t do that so easily if we are armed as we are now!

  • shadow

    Should you debate me you will be vaporized.

    Another conservative Black Knight.

  • Conservative Ken

    Sounds like the Government plans to violate the Forth Amendment. Just remember, unreasonable searches (Townsend Act) sparked the first revolution.

  • rolling thunder

    Yea, you knew this was coming. Cuomo is pushing to be Prez in 2016–if Obama doesn’t repeal the two term limit. However the issue is a ludicrous joke. Many felonies are being perpetrated by illegals, most with illegal weapons. Thus, Cuomo, true to statist form, will go after the law-abiding, taxpaying, non-felon registered gun owner, and leave the guns in the hands of the felons and the illegals (because the US government can no longer even count them all and doesn’t even care). Great plan! Sure to have a LOT of unintended consequences.

  • bg

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    please, just keep scrolling for more, thank you..

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  • jony101

    Lady Mondegreen .

    we see you for who you are. You talk about “we” losing more seats, we are not “we” you. You come here and talk politely, never curse and act belligerently like your fellow leftist. But you are who we thought you are. You fool some of us but you are the only one so far who is anti-gun here today.
    My thought on all this is we need more guns, bigger guns. Your not going to go up against someone with a bushmaster with a handgun or 22 rifle, even the police with a shotgun would be outmatched. bigger gun always wins.

  • ★FALCON★


    #46 December 21, 2012 at 6:12 pm
    shadow commented:

    Should you debate me you will be vaporized.

    No, I just remember how easily you were nullified at BB in the Intense Debate format. No one needs to be a Black Knight to unhinge you.

  • Cuomo is out of his mind. It’s stupid to think criminals and the insane will no loner commit crimes and kill if guns are confiscated. I’d bet the farm, every single parent of the children murdered at Sandy Hook wish to God at least one of the teachers or administrators had a gun to defend themselves and the children. How many lives could have been saved if someone at the school had been armed?

  • Militant Conservative

    Why do you think many of us “right wingers” have amassed guns, ammo, and tactical gear

    for years. We saw the writting on the wall. We have specific “triggers” in place that will

    be our point of no return. Quite discussions with our wives and family about what is the

    point of contention and what we will do. Sober men and women willing to do what is needed.

    No bluster, no bravado, no kidding. You do not let the opposition know the game plan,

    you just do it.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    That is why Bush doned a flight suit and led sorties into Iraq during the 2003 invasion.

    Even if he had done that, it’s one thing for a sitting president to conduct a war, which falls under his authority, and something entirely different for a Democrat governor to have police attempt to confiscate privately owned firearms in violation of the Second Amendment, and only an idiot like you would even think of comparing the two.

  • brian #34

    Yeah, tough guy, and you’ll get 20 bullets of theirs at a time.

    Bad boys, bad boys… whatcha gonna do when they come for you…

  • Nanna

    It is my understanding that President Bush signed into law making it illegal to confiscate guns from citizens. This was after Katrina.

    I think they know better than to try. They know that there are many millions of gun owners in this country,and not just NRA.

  • Faye

    Cuomo just gave his first stump speech for for the 2016 campaign for POTUS and this is all for the base.
    This should put him in the lead fast.

  • SeaBass

    Never forget silly libs, we are endowed by God with rights. Millions and millions have fought and die for these right, and I am no less or no more then those men. Though I walk through the Valley…

  • dwdude

    Lady Mondegreen
    why do you think citizens just bought out a 3 year supply of 30 round mags for their ar rifles?
    we know where the dhs is stashing the ammo…the social security administration, etc. do you think there is a standing force at these offices that could repel an assault from a well armed militia?…you have to remember, most of the military didn’t vote for your guy, right?
    Grampa
    It wasn’t the military, it was the police nitwit. And you’re talking about people in a disaster area which are already shell shocked…think you’d be surprised at the organization flying under your near sighted radar. i seem to remember a king that thought his well trained regulars could quickly subdue a rag tag militia. let’s see, where was that again?

  • bg

    ++

    S. Wolf #15 December 21, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    Breaking The War Mentality

    AND THEY WERE DEAD SERIOUS

    bit more here & here..

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  • bg

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    December 21, 2012

    Flashback: Clinton Requests $60 Million to Put Cops in Schools

    [The media also doesn’t care how wildly hypocritical they look.

    In their zeal to rampage this left-wing agenda, the media has apparently forgotten that back in 2000, on the one-year anniversary of the Columbine shooting (which occurred with an assault weapons ban in place), President Clinton requested $60 million in federal money to fund a fifth round of funding for a program called “COPS in School,” a program that does exactly what the NRA is proposing and the media is currently in overdrive mocking]

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  • onetermer

    Gov. Cuomo, go ahead with your plan. And kiss your White House bid goodbye because the battleground states will not vote in a gun grabber for pres.

  • Joanne

    Look folks, they are going to try to confiscate your guns. They have to confiscate your guns to take over. They can’t have Americans armed and shooting the ‘civilian force’. Obama is going to spin and spin with the media helping him all the way. People who have guns and defend the right to have arms will be demonized by the leftards. The right can’t even take being called ‘Birthers’, let alone the labels the left are going to place upon you for wanting to be armed.

    As soon as the confiscation starts, the American people have to take to the streets in protest everywhere. No waiting to see what happens or to see if they’ll be coming for you. People may even have to stop going to work, like you all should have done already, to show you mean business. Obama is going to pick off people one by one until people are so scared, they will hand in their guns. Do you all get it! A dictator sits in the Whitehouse, and he is going to take over the U.S. if good men do nothing.

  • Joanne

    #62 – Americans didn’t vote in Obama for a second term either – there was massive voter fraud. So interesting how Romney just slid away like a snake – no fight in him at all. They must have got to him too, or maybe he had us all hoodwinked from the start.

  • bg

    ++

    December 20, 2012

    An opinion on gun control

    [Armed Teachers

    So now that there is a new tragedy the president wants to have a “national conversation on guns”. Here’s the thing. Until this national conversation is willing to entertain allowing teachers to carry concealed weapons, then it isn’t a conversation at all, it is a lecture.

    Now when I say teachers carrying concealed weapons on Facebook I immediately get a bunch of emotional freak out responses. You can’t mandate teachers be armed! Guns in every classroom! Emotional response! Blood in the streets!

    No. Hear me out. The single best way to respond to a mass shooter is with an immediate, violent response. The vast majority of the time, as soon as a mass shooter meets serious resistance, it bursts their fantasy world bubble. Then they kill themselves or surrender. This has happened over and over again.

    [..]

    The average number of people shot in a mass shooting event when the shooter is stopped by law enforcement: 14. The average number of people shot in a mass shooting event when the shooter is stopped by civilians: 2.5. The reason is simple. The armed civilians are there when it started.

    [..]

    Gun Free Zones

    Gun Free Zones are hunting preserves for innocent people. Period.

    Think about it. You are a violent, homicidal madman, looking to make a statement and hoping to go from disaffected loser to most famous person in the world. The best way to accomplish your goals is to kill a whole bunch of people. So where’s the best place to go shoot all these people? Obviously, it is someplace where nobody can shoot back.

    In all honesty I have no respect for anybody who believes Gun Free Zones actually work. You are going to commit several hundred felonies, up to and including mass murder, and you are going to refrain because there is a sign? That No Guns Allowed sign is not a cross that wards off vampires. It is wishful thinking, and really pathetic wishful thinking at that.]

    much more at link..

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  • ouldbollix

    War….

  • Rachelle

    And here is why people do not trust the government with gun registration.

  • Hugh

    Deluded–not remotely an option, I can assure you.

  • bg
  • jackson_murrell

    Bet you Cuomo doesn’t try to confiscate the mafia’s guns.

  • AuntieMadder

    Cuomo’s remarks coming on the heals of Lee’s plead to citizens to voluntarily surrender their guns could leave one with the impression that perhaps the two were tasked with making the statements to get the people accustomed to the idea or the possibility. You know, putting these bugs in ears as a sort of conditioning or desensitizing.

  • AuntieMadder

    #50 December 21, 2012 at 7:09 pm
    jony101 commented:

    Lady Mondegreen .

    we see you for who you are. You talk about “we” losing more seats, we are not “we” you. You come here and talk politely, never curse and act belligerently like your fellow leftist. But you are who we thought you are. You fool some of us but you are the only one so far who is anti-gun here today.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Good catch.

    FYI, before donning the concern troll sock puppet that she currently wears, Lady Mondegreen posted here at GP as the trolling lefty libtard that she is at heart. That you didn’t know that shows that you have a good eye for spotting concern trolls.

  • bg

    ++

    just a reminder:

    January 17th, 2007

    School Threat

    [* According to two trainers at an anti-terrorism conference on the East Coast, preparations for attacks on American schools that will bring rivers of blood and staggering body counts are well underway in Islamic terrorist camps.

    * The intended attackers have bluntly warned us they’re going to do it.

    * They’re already begun testing school-related targets here.

    * They’ve given us a catastrophic model to train against, which we’ve largely ignored and they’ve learned more deadly tactics from.

    [..]

    Al-Qaeda has publicly asserted the “right” to kill 2,000,000 American children, Rassa explained, and has warned that “operations are in stages of preparation” now. He played vivid videotapes confiscated in Afghanistan, showing al-Qaeda terrorists practicing the takeover of a school. The trainees issue commands in English, rehearse separating youngsters into manageable groups and meeting any resistance with violence. Some “hostages” are taken to the rooftop, dangled over the edge, then “shot.”]

    October 7, 2004

    Computer disc found in Iraq contained U.S. school plans

    [Federal law enforcement authorities notified school districts in six states last month that a computer disc found in Iraq contained photos, floor plans and other information about their schools, two U.S. officials said Thursday.

    [..]

    The disc contained an Education Department report called “Practical Information on Crisis Planning: A Guide for Schools and Communities,” published in May 2003, as well as photos and floor plans.]

    September 13, 2007

    The Ends Islamist Terrorists Seek

    [The entire goal of Al Qaeda-type monsters is to provoke a reaction from mainstream America by pursuing evil against those who stand in the way of imposing theocracy. These fascists have no value for life other than that it’s simply a means to their end of a totalitarian theocratic state. It is their ideology. In their warped view of religion they are God.

    These are not the actions of psychopaths. Instead, they are the calculated actions of those seeking power and those afraid of freedom. They know that liberty’s greatest weakness is its wide exposure to attacks against noncombatants (i.e., you and me) and the way in which protections against those attacks alter the very liberties we all seek to protect.

    [snip]

    If American Muslims declare open war against Al Qaeda, Americans will rush to defend our mosques rather than allow them to be burned. Otherwise, with rage and vengeance, the freedoms so protected by our Constitution will quickly dissipate into a nation gripped by fear and hate of the “other.” And that is the ultimate goal of such horrific acts: to create a reaction which ultimately destroys the very fabric of our nation-the trust of one another, under God, under our Constitution. The children they would kill in schools on this “Perfect Day” would be a utilitarian mechanism (ends justifying the means) to achieve the destruction of the “American” way of life.]

    3 years old, but oh so much more poignant than ever..

    September 9, 2009

    Eighth anniversary of 9/11 calls for vigilance

    [The events of September 11, 2009 opened America’s eyes to the ruthlessness that militant Islamism can inspire. Yet eight years later our leaders and therefore our nation still struggles with the real threat that looms before us. The parsing of words in recent months of whether we are in a “War on Terror” or an “Overseas Contingency Operation” or even the Obama Administrations decision to designate 9/11 as a “Day of Service,” demonstrate that our leadership is missing the point on what and who the true threat is to America.

    To lay it out in no uncertain terms, Political Islam has one goal, the dominance of the Islamist version of Islam over every aspect of life. Their belief in a theocratic form of government that stifles individual liberty is at complete odds with every principle that built America.

    The ideology of Islamism (aka Political Islam) is in direct conflict with the west and in reality in both a war of ideas as well as a kinetic war on many fronts. Its adherents will use every avenue available to them to achieve their goal. Hijacked airplanes, terror attacks and separatism in the version of shar’iah courts are just weapons on many fronts to both militant and lawful Islamists. Without addressing both the peaceful and violent roots of political Islam (Islamism) together, we ignore the ideological chasm between liberty based western societies like America and the deceptive theocratic global movement of political Islam. Political correctness and a healthy respect for Islam as a faith have prevented the development of a serious strategy against the theological fuel behind global militant Islamism. The threat remains very real and we have seen militant Islamist cells stopped most recently in the past few months in North Carolina and New York.

    The moves to advance political Islam by American Islamist organizations stand to benefit only other Islamists- whether they condemn terrorism or not. Until we are able to engage Muslims openly who are anti-Islamist we will make no progress in a cogent strategy against Islamism in both its militant and lawful forms.

    Americans should mark this eighth anniversary of 9/11 by dedicating ourselves to being vigilant on all fronts in the protection of our individual liberties and the founding principles of America. These fronts include our neighborhoods, interfaith community, government, universities, businesses, and media. In particular, it is long overdue that we openly engage Muslims who are ready to separate mosque and state as a means to defeating political Islam. American Muslims should be vigilant in our protection of our faith and the freedom that the American system gives us to practice that faith.]

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  • Paul Davis

    To all who think certain Americans will not fight:

    Just why do you think that the sales of military style rifles and bulk military ammunition over the last four years have been at record levels? Each and every year, there have been enough rifles sold to equip the entire Indian Army. 🙂

  • AuntieMadder

    @ JoyO #43: I remember my grandmother, about 25 years ago, told me that she believed Sen Joe McCarthy and that she was always tuning into the news reports with a watchful eye for the closet Commies. She knew the Commies were quietly and diligently working away at America and she didn’t like the idea of it one bit. She died earlier this year at the age of 93 and, for the same reasons that you’re glad to be on in years, I’m glad she’s gone now and not here to see what’s coming so quickly our way.

  • bg #60

    Thanks. How’s the great-grandson? Tell him a wolf said Merry Christmas. 🙂

    Joanne #64

    re They must have got to him too, or maybe he had us all hoodwinked from the start

    Possibly. But Romney was always simply an ABO. Anybody But Obama is preferable to Obama. The idea being that Romney, RINO and all, would be easier to manage than Barry Dunham or whoever he is and all his radical leftist fundamental transformations of the U.S. The GOP establishment did not have the same sense of urgency, however, and basically rolled over to the media and played Obama’s game. That’s the problem when a RINO candidate is guided by the RINO GOP…

  • No way I’d be living in NY. They can have in their little liberal nanny state utopia. Will be unnerving to see their crime rate skyrocket after all the guns are turned in by the law abiding sheep.

  • Wiscodoc

    I’m thinking that if the government ever really did turn its guns on “we the people”, that we would be seriously outgunned. I’m picturing Army, Navy Air Force and USMC vs. Granny, Falcon, Militant Conservative and all the rest…not a pretty sight…depending upon one’s point of view, I suppose.

  • bg

    ++

    chris #77 December 21, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    albeit sees itself the same way as you do..

    look at a map of the US, NY is a lot bigger than NYC..

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  • bg

    ++

    December 21, 2012

    Flashback: Clinton Requests $60 Million to Put Cops in Schools

    S. Wolf #76 December 21, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    still a cutie pie, thanks..

    and Merry Christmas to you and yours.. 🙂

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  • Rose
  • bg
  • Rose

    Cops in Schools?

    Better to HOME SCHOOL w/optional internet links – no cops, no union teachers, no molesters, no weird Liberal programs, slash $$$TRILLIONS in savings and dismantling Dept of Ed, and Teachers unions – no school bullies…. No school bus accidents, no school children stalkers, no gun-free zones… Time can be spent on education meant to help people FIND GOOD-PAYING JOBS. YOUNGER!

  • bg

    ++

    re: Rose #81 December 21, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    11 million holocaust victims

    Secrets of Communism (by any other name)

    Murder by Communism (by any other name)

    [But communism does not stand alone in such mass murder. We do have the example of Nazi Germany, which may have itself murdered some 20,000,000 Jews, Poles, Ukrainians, Russians, Yugoslaves, Frenchmen, and other nationalities. Then there is the Nationalist government of China under Chiang Kai-shek, which murdered near 10,000,000 Chinese from 1928 to 1949, and the Japanese militarists who murdered almost 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Indochinese, Koreans, Filipinos, and others during world War II. And then we have the 1,000,000 or more Bengalis and Hindus killed in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) in 1971 by the Pakistan military. Nor should we forget the mass expulsion of ethnic Germans and German citizens from Eastern Europe at the end of World War II, particularly by the Polish government as it seized the German Eastern Territories, killing perhaps over 1,000,000 of them. Nor should we ignore the 1,000,000 plus deaths in Mexico from 1900 to 1920, many of these poor Indians and peasants being killed by forced labor on barbaric haciendas. And one could go on and on to detail various kinds of noncommunist democide.

    But what connects them all is this. As a government’s power is more unrestrained, as its power reaches into all the corners of culture and society, and as it is less democratic, then the more likely it is to kill its own citizens. There is more than a correlation here. As totalitarian power increases, democide multiplies until it curves sharply upward when totalitarianism is near absolute. As a governing elite has the power to do whatever it wants, whether to satisfy its most personal desires, to pursue what it believes is right and true, it may do so whatever the cost in lives. In this case power is the necessary condition for mass murder. Once an elite have it, other causes and conditions can operated to bring about the immediate genocide, terrorism, massacres, or whatever killing an elite feels is warranted.]

    “The social experiment in China under Chairman Moa’s leadership
    is one of the most important and successful in human history.”

    ~ David Rockefeller

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  • mark1973

    #64,You nailed it! “Romney had us hoodwinked from the start”. He was supposed to take a dive and he did. The dems are plan A for the “New World Order,One World Government” Bankser illuminati such as Rockefeller/Rotschild and the repubs are plan B. They are all statists lefties with the repubs trying to sound like Conservatives but they alway’s keep pushing Obama’s agenda ahead. MITTEN’S was as nasty and dirty as they come during the repub primary,then once he had that won he came to dead stop,almost like he was working off a script…Because he was. He was a willing dupe,as was McCain and Dole befre him,who knew his part in this “Theatre” ,was to take a dive and lose to Obama. The reason or that is they are all advancing the more important goal to them of a New World Order.

    He as the Bush’s before him earlier this year seemed “A little too relaxed” with Obama in the White House. Both Bush’s,Bill Clinton,MITTEN’S and Obama all seem very chummy. It’s the type of ease and chuminess that comes from believing in the same things and having the same agenda. They only seem uncomfortable when people like Sarah Palin’s name is mentioned.

    Remarkable is it not? That every single bit of Obama’s agenda could have been stopped yet some republican alway’s seems to step forward to bail Obama ( Rockefeller/Rotschild ) out, For instance: Obamacare ( Olympia Snowe), Dodd/Frank ( Scott Brown ), Food Safety and Modernization Act ( Tom Coburn ). All of those people singlehandidly played a key role in advancing Obama’s Bills when they singlehandidly could have stopped them.

    Then we get to groups of repubs helping Obama as in: The Start 2 Treaty,The NDAA,Opening up the skies to Drones,Renewal of the Patriot Act,the Debt Ceiling raises,light bulb ban etc. None of that is a coincidence on the part of the repubs,but Treasonous complicity and 95% of the repubs are radical leties playing at being Conservative. If they were Conservative,MITEN’S would have vociferously challenged Obama’s more than obvious Fraudulent “Victory” but MITTEN’S instead seemed entirely a little too comfortable with that “Loss”.

    I’m not exactly thrilled with the prospect of Paul Ryan as the Speaker either,as his past votes on many issues could hardly be called Conservative. I think the Establishment is finally going to replace Boehner as Speaker,simply as a smokescreen to delay our attempt and pacify us,in a futile attempt to stop us from forming a replacement Conservative Third Party alternative to the repubs. They know people are fit to be tied about the repubs collaboration with the dems and for the first time in my life a New party to replace the repubs would have overwhelming support,as the repubs have become a mirror image of the dems,much like the ‘Whig Party who they replaced in the 1850’s had become the same thing.

  • Patty

    I cannot believe the panel tonight on Fox report all three saying NRA idea for Professionals to guard our children’s schools was no option.

    This nation has become a left leaning bunch of Pantywaste.

  • Steve

    You first, governor. If the citizens of your state will not be allowed to use firearms for self-defense, I am sure that you are willing to disarm your security detail.

  • Patty

    Poll: Majority Agree with NRA Plan to ‘Increase Police Presence at Schools’

    Lost in our objective, unbiased, and non-partisan media’s zeal to mock the National Rifle Association’s proposal to guard our public schools is the fact that, in a Gallup poll taken Wednesday, a majority of 53% of Americans expressed their support for doing exactly what the NRA’s proposing – increasing police presence at schools.

    Only 42% support an assault weapons ban.

    Almost as many people (34%) thought that at least one school official in every school should carry a gun as those who favored banning the sale of assault and semi-automatic guns, while 27% felt that the news media should not print or read the names of the shooter. The news blackout of the shooter drew the highest percentage of those who thought it would be ineffective, at 40%, but the gun ban was a close second in the ineffectiveness rating at 36%.

    What also becomes clear from the poll is the public’s perception that all of the solutions offered would be fruitless, as 53% was the highest positive rating of any of the remedies.

    I’d love to see a poll of the elite media asking if they prefer armed or unarmed guards at their workplace.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/12/21/Poll-Majority-support-NRA-Plan

  • Patty

    Bloomberg does Comedy.

    Bloomberg: No One Has ‘Defended the Second Amendment as Much as I Have

    Mayor Michael Bloomberg may have risen to become the country’s chief critic of lax firearm laws, but on his weekly radio show, he argued that has nothing to do with the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Indeed, Mr. Bloomberg claimed to be the strongest defender of the Second Amendment around.

    “I don’t think there’s anybody that’s defended the Second Amendment as much as I have, Ray,” Mr. Bloomberg said to a caller who asked him why he was “so against” the constitutional passage . “I think you have a perfect right to buy weapons and keep them for protection or for sport. We have tried to make sure that you have it. The Supreme Court says that there are–consistent with the Second Amendment–you can have reasonable restrictions, so, for example, you can’t buy a nuclear-tipped weapon.”

    The mayor also offered some possible interpretations of the Second Amendment that differ from those espoused by gun rights advocates.

    “I don’t think anyone should try to tamper with the Second Amendment,” Mr. Bloomberg explained. “There is a question as to what [in] the Second Amendment was written. You can read it to say they only talked about militias, or you can read it to say they wanted guns in your pocket. I don’t know, that’s up to you.”

    http://politicker.com/2012/12/bloomberg-no-one-has-defended-the-second-amendment-as-much-as-i-have/

  • Patty
  • Patty

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmSH5MREHdw

    Alex Jones on Ct. Shooting

  • They have already confiscated the true assault weapons, machine guns, and now they want to take the rest.

    ‘Definitions

    A fully automatic weapon (a machine gun) is one that fires a succession of bullets so long as the trigger is depressed or until the ammunition supply is exhausted. In addition, any weapon that shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot automatically, more than one shot at a time by a single trigger pull, is legally considered to be a machine gun.

    Submachine guns are fully automatic weapons that fire a handgun cartridge and can be operated by one person. Sometimes they are referred to as machine pistols.

    A machine gun can normally fire between 400 and 1,000 rounds (bullets) per minute, or between 7 and 17 rounds per second.

    Federal Firearms Regulations

    It has been unlawful since 1934 (The National Firearms Act) for civilians to own machine guns without special permission from the U.S. Treasury Department. Machine guns are subject to a $200 tax every time their ownership changes from one federally registered owner to another, and each new weapon is subject to a manufacturing tax when it is made, and it must be registered with the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in its National Firearms Registry.’

    Full Auto Weapons

    Time to draw a line, peeps, or they will take the silence for consent.

  • Injunjoe

    I guess if I’m to be a criminal for owning a weapon I may as well be one for using it…

  • bg
  • Hoffy

    @ grampy. Do you really think that there is a swat team member out there that would take away a fellow citizens right to bear arms. They are people just like us and most police I know are pretty big gun people themselves. And even if you could get a team together, the surrounding areas gun owners would get together and squash any gov’t team trying to take their neighbors guns.

  • jaxson

    well i will bury my guns and food when i hear the gestapo on their way.

  • CT

    We should all be grateful that Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo has come out of the Über-liberal closet so that there can be no doubt how unqualified he is to seek the presidency.

  • Gary Ogletree

    Cuomo’s a blowhard. A lot of people wished they had guns in NYC wheb the power was out. Let’s dee what happens now that so many realize the governmenent is not their friend.

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  • ar05075

    Inside every progressive lurks a fascist bearing fangs..!!

  • valerie

    Ok, so we’ve heard from the mayor of New York, a very large, densely packed city where the locals have long ago decided to listen to the screams of a woman being raped and murdered, rather than get involved.

  • valerie

    #17 December 21, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    Lady Mondegreen commented:

    “The tide is turning. The media is suddenly reporting on every shooting in the country and public opinion is headed toward strong support for gun regulations. This is going to be another wedge issue in 2014, and we’re going to lose even more seats ….”

    What’s this “we” stuff? That’s exactly the result you’re after.

  • the reason these politicans want to disarm the citizens is because they know they have enslaved the american workers and they are afraid the slaves might stage an uprising.

  • Scott

    BRING IT ON BIG BOY!! I bet if you try by the end of the night you would be wishing you hadn’t suggested it! Really, why would you even want that?

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  • Lightwave

    Proof that once again liberals are fascists who must be put down by any means necessary.

    The tree of Liberty is looking a bit pale, Andrew. Swing on by and let’s fix that.

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