Regime Alert: Judge Rules Hobby Lobby Must Pay for Abortion Drugs & Birth Control …Update: Hobby Lobby Appeals Decision

A federal judge ruled Christian-owned Hobby Lobby has no rights and the company must pay for abortifacient drugs and birth control.
LifeNews reported:

A federal judge has issued a ruling siding with the Obama administration saying that it has the right to force Hobby Lobby, a Christian-owned and run company, to pay for drugs for women that may cause abortions.

The privately held retail chain with more than 500 arts and crafts stores in 41 states filed a lawsuit against the Obama administration over its HHS mandate. The company says it would face $1.3 million in fines on a daily basis starting in January if it fails to comply with the mandate, which requires religious employers to pay for or refer women for abortion-cause drugs that violate their conscience or religious beliefs.

The lawsuit was filed in the US District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma and the business says it is opposing the Health and Human Services “preventive services” mandate, which it says forces the Christian-owned-and-operated business to provide, without co-pay, the “morning after pill” and “week after pill” in their health insurance plan, or face crippling fines up to 1.3 million dollars per day.

“By being required to make a choice between sacrificing our faith or paying millions of dollars in fines, we essentially must choose which poison pill to swallow,” said David Green, Hobby Lobby CEO and founder. “We simply cannot abandon our religious beliefs to comply with this mandate.”

However, U.S. District Judge Joe Heaton issued a ruling late Monday rejecting Hobby Lobby’s request to block the mandate. Judge Heaton said that the company doesn’t qualify for an exemption because it is not a church or religious group.

Expect more of this in the next four years.

UPDATE: Hobby Lobby appealed the decision.

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  • Rachelle

    Time to start impeaching federal judges. The Senate may not convict them, but it will scare the hell out of them and keep them busy.

    If they want to be politicians they should be treated like politicians.

  • dw dude

    ethylene glycol in the judges oj

  • mg4us

    What they need to do is put everyone on 30 hour or less shifts and then they do not need to pay Health Care expenses for those employees. . .

    I agree with #1. . need to impeach judges. . .

    Only when people say enough is enough will be get our country back. . .

  • So, in the ‘new, transformed amerika’, if you are a person of faith with Biblical beliefs, and you want to own a business, you must choose to either go against a direct commandment of your faith or not own a business. How ’bout that hopeNchange!

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    If they dropped the employer-provided health insurance immediately and cut workers’ hours down to part-time status, would that solve the problem?

  • Economan

    We no longer live in a free country. This is tyranny.

  • mcashc

    debbie wasserman stated that republicans got whiter and older, while democrats added minorities and women. It’s official- white people are bad. The cultural marxists have won. All their victim groups have complete control. Think what she said. No big deal to msm. Hey white men, that is you. It is amazing how fast the communist disease has spread. All you white democrat idiots voted for a racist communist anti American child.

  • bg
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  • Truth Teller

    They mistake silence for weakness. Time to choose.

  • Truth Teller

    I am going to force any Muslim I see to eat bacon.

    Let the Bacon Wars begin.

  • Truth Teller

    Don’t comply Hobby Lobby. Refuse to pay the fines. Let them try to force you…then see the destruction that ensues.

  • Truth Teller

    I am afraid the days of “voting them out” and sitting by and saying “that’s not fair” are over.

    Need to shift into second gear.

  • briscuit

    Well, make everyone part time, less than 30 hours per week, and drop all health care benefits. Tell your employees to take it up with obama

  • retired military

    If I was the CEO I would close every store and tell the employees to let the judge pay for their birth control. Another alterntative is cut everyone to part time and not offer any health care and tell the employees to thank the judge.

  • Lady Mondegreen

    It’s called equal protection. Nobody has to use birth control, but no employer who provides insurance has any right to refuse to cover legal birth control for an employee who wants it. They can always stop providing insurance, but that’s not a good way to keep good employees. We can’t preach freedom for me, but not freedom for thee. It just doesn’t work that way.

  • Ghost

    Where, When, Who will begin the Civil Disobedience?

    Resistance begins when you finally get sick and tired of being sick and tired

  • westsun

    Gateway you need to do a better job. Federal Judges have ruled the other way in Colorado and other states against Obama Administration. They just lost a case in Colorado where the Judge said the Christian Owned Business..DOES NOT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE HHS MANDATE. So present the whole side come on!! This judge is a minority….what you have here is the working of a case to the Supreme Court because you have judges in different juridictions ruling differently….so Gateway present both because you give the incorrect image.

    Do a heading…JUDGE IN COLORADO SAYS NO TO HHS MANDATE FOR CHRISTIAN OWNED BUSINESS…you need to be more accurate…This is not the NEXT FOUR YEARS….

    Sorry readers Gateway not presenting both sides

  • RealMc

    do muslims believe in abortion?

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  • neverends

    It will force more and more businesses to go out of business as a result of Obamacare. The next thing that will happen is that religious institutions will close their facilities and put more and more people out of work. Of course, that is exactly what Bamey wants so that there will be all those unemployed people who will then depend of govt handouts to survive. The massive collapse is closer than anyone sees. The following brief article says it all!

    http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2012/11/its-1937-all-over-again-ongoing-obama.htm

  • Jeannie

    Funny. I wouldn’t expect an environmentalist to trust a Christian to decide if he is environmentalist enough.

    The 4 stages of persecution
    stigmatizing the targeted group,
    marginalizing its role in society,
    vilifying it for alleged crimes or misconduct,
    criminalizing it,
    and finally, persecuting it outright.

    Welcome to late stage 3 folks.

    Christ: They will hate you because they hated me first.

    I know this is a very foreign concept to most of the world but life is very very short and the only reason we even HAVE a life on earth is because God created man and rather than live in paradise, loving and revering God, man decided to make himself equal to God.

    this involved pride. Pride and love and humility cannot co-exist.

    So man had to be removed from paradise to live tribulation, there to choose love or pride.

    To choose love, in a world where pride and self-named gods are abundant, is to suffer, because pride leads to hate.

    So all of you who want to run from persecution and sacrifice, by modifying your values, must learn what the world would not have you learn: this is a short life. The only true happiness is the golden rule and the best example of this is a man laying his life for another.

    NOT the government or anti-Christians wanting Christians silenced, marginalized and ultimately killed.

    The sad thing is that the indoctrination began back in the 50s with our educational system taken over by secularism, likewise our government and our media.

    Had any of you who think you hate what you think Christianity is been actually taught true history you would know that repressive government always seeks to silence the church and once it has done that, government falls…and the church, which cannot die, is the one to re-establish society, which proceeds as a Christian society, complete with charity and abundance…at which point government moves in to control and profit off of the labor of others.

    It’s been done by hundreds of regimes, which all fail.

    And the church returns every time.

    Your neighbor who is Christian WILL lay their life down for you. Your neighbor who believes himself/herself superior to you will not. By all means seek out the hypocrites among Christians, who never professed to be perfect, while ignoring those who persecute who rejoice in their vice, while successfully turning people away from Christians by pointing out much more minor flaws in those who never said they were perfect, but who by their actions, over and over had far greater examples of charity than non-christians.

    And God knows a Christian heart. Some who are drawn to the values of Christianity and act upon these, ARE Christian, but may not know the full path, which is why Christians are NOT to condemn anyone as fallen, because only God knows each heart.

  • SeniorD

    All worship the Golden Fed.

  • they ought to drop insurance.

    and not drop their morals.

  • Jeannie

    #21 and there you just defined why the #1 target for ALL repressive regimes is the suppression of organized Christian unified religion. There are many denominations, but only one that will not change its doctrine no matter what ‘enlightened’ times says.
    the Catholic church.

    this is why anybody who cares to read communism, eugenics, the activist gay agenda, Islam or any oppressive regime, will discover at some point that the catholic view, that every human being has the right to freedom, to prosperity, to life from conception to birth, gives them a hope and a confidence that MUST be quenched if they are to successfully oppress.

    the bishops now are aware that within 10 years many of them will either be dying in prisons or martyred. They know that the many who ignore and laugh at them now have never been taught the history of Christians, which is now being played out on Israel.

    And while the past three generations (about 22 and older) all laugh and dismiss this, the youngest, most unable to vote, beg for a voice because they not only see this, they have opposed their indoctrinated teaching, researched history, and seen the past evil that played out in exactly the same way.

    the good news (because there has to be some) is that American Freedom HAS been exported to every country in the world. with market expansion came free enterprise, which only happened because the many from desperately poor or middle class or rich backgrounds realized their own potential, realized that before there was EVER a government there was ALWAYS a society that made itself so successful that those who will not do, but will only profit and suck off the hard work of others, move in..as government.

    The good news is that the persecution does end. The bad news is that while abortion is far and away the largest killer or our shrinking population, it will soon, if history is repressed once again, find its numbers diminished in comparison to massive slaughter such as the 46+million peasants who died of starvation, when Mao took them out of hte fields and set them to the great development programs, moving people out of homes for the great prosperity..now the site of empty, haunted cities where families live in third world conditions on the outskirts.
    And those who voted for Obama never had a thought deeper than that they wouldn’t be able to have free sex and might have to work hard and sacrifice.

    Such is hte perpetual stage of adolescence, the age targeted by oppressive dictators as least likely to get beyond its own self-absorption and make mature and selfless choices.

  • cavt

    Well, this will be interesting to watch along with how the catholics react. Face it, it has been relatively easy to be a christian. Looks like those days are coming to an end thanks to leftists/progressives/Obamaites, whatever. Of couse, they will have some reason why this is a good thing and shouldn’t bother anyone else regardless of believes. How many people will be willing to stand up for their beliefs when it is no longer easy to do? I agree with ghost, when will enough be enough for enough Americans?

  • Jeannie

    #24, if you will look it up you will see many have. Even if all do not drop their insurance, the shock wave of the hospitals, shelters, missions, adoption centers, free clinics and pregnancy crisis centers and places like St. vincent de paul’s, will be massively felt

    The question is whether the muddled thinking that stops so many from seeing the big picture, stops them from foregoing focus on their own period, in order to preserve a future for the upcoming generations, will be overcome when awareness of a track that is beautifully visible by reading one of the most recent countries to choose this route, Zimbabwe.

    Zimbabwe shared an eerily similar amount of traits with us and Robert Mugawbe came in and did just as OBama has done.

    their dollar is now 1 trillionth of a U.S. cent and their agricultural abundance, formerly the bread basket of the world, is desolate wasteland. Their population is starved, illiterate and shockingly diminished of whites, due to Mugawbe’s initial decree for prosperous farmers to turn over their land to the blacks; followed by his second choice to turn a blind eye when black rampaging vigilantes slaughtered the farmers; followed by his decree that since those who took the land were inept farming it, no land would be owned by anyone but government.

    READ IT. Read your future.

  • Jeannie

    #26..

    I believe the Israelites were slaves to Pharoah for 400 years until enough was enough and then it was 40 years in the desert before they were able to migrate to a land for themselves again.

    i have no reason to believe today’s society is even fractionally as smart as the Israelites were. No mention of abortion being one of God’s primary problems with them.

  • bg

    ++

    good bye freedom of speech.. check

    good bye freedom of religion.. check

    ==

  • Patty

    OBAMA HAVE YOU KNOW SHAME?

  • bg

    ++

    just remember this:

    “I’m committed to working with American Muslims to ensure that
    they can fulfill Zakat [.] it is important for Western countries
    to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion
    as they see fit”
    Barry Dunham Soetoro Barack Hussein Obama

    more at link, in connecting links, and thread comments..

    ==

  • Patty

    Judge Heaton said that the company doesn’t qualify for an exemption because it is not a church or religious group.

    We have laws against murder. No laws to protect the unborn.

    Birth control pills are cheap but to pay for abortions, killing of the unborn, what the in HEAVENS name is wrong with OBAMA. I am serious, what is wrong with this incompetent evil dictator?

    OH, JUST ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION.

  • dallasdan

    Maybe the country needs an Obama induced depression to get its thinking back on a reasonable track. As lower and middle class American families increasingly suffer, I will laugh and tell them to complain to the Kenyan.

  • Patty

    Baby is a punishment for his daughters, OK. His choice but now he is dictating others choice for them. HE IS A DICTATOR. I didn’t vote for this.

  • Patty

    others? All America.

  • Patty

    OT
    It’s Never Enough: Why the American Left Won’t Stop Until It Has Ruined Everything

    […………………………..]

    This is a country where we are being economically oppressed?

    Where 80 percent of “poor” households have air conditioning?
    Where 92 percent of “poor” households have a microwave?
    Where nearly three-fourths of “poor” households have a car or truck?
    Where 31 percent of the “poor” have two or more cars or trucks?
    Where nearly two-thirds of the “poor” have cable or satellite TV?
    Where near two-thirds of the “poor” have at least one DVD player, and 70 percent have a VCR?
    Where half of the “poor” have a personal computer, and one in seven have two or more computers?
    Where more than half of “poor” families with children have a video game system, such as an Xbox or PlayStation?
    Where more than 43 percent of the “poor” have Internet access?
    Where one-third of the “poor” have a wide-screen plasma or LCD TV?

    This is an economic system that needs to be “fundamentally transformed”? This is a country we are supposed to be so damned mad about?

    And why? Because there is inequality? Of course, there is inequality, you fools! If I sit here and blog instead of sacking coal in a mine, then do I deserve to be paid as much as a coal miner? No! If I lay on my couch eating bon-bons and watching Judge Judy should I make as much money as the grease monkey who just expertly fixed a broken-down Volvo? Again, no!

    So why in tarnation is everyone up in arms about Mitt Romney’s “gifts” comment? Why do people lose their collectivist minds when Romney talks about the 47% of takers, whom he accurately predicted would never vote for him? His comments hit a little too close to home, that’s why, they touched a nerve of truth, and they outraged those who feel entitled to the fruits of other people’s labor. Good!

    But Mitt Romney was wrong when he said that too many Americans were taking “gifts” from President Obama and that’s why he lost the election. When someone gives a gift, generally, he has to make it or pay for it. The president did neither; he just looted the private sector and redistributed Obama money to his voter-clients, who excused his theft with a shoulder shrug and the amoral rejoinder “well, that’s democracy.”[…………………..]
    http://www.conservativedailynews.com/2012/11/its-never-enough-why-the-american-left-wont-stop-until-it-has-ruined-everything/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=its-never-enough-why-the-american-left-wont-stop-until-it-has-ruined-everything&utm_so

  • Jeannie

    Patty, what is inconceivable is that authoritarian figures have now decided who truly believes enough to be able to retain their values and who does not.

    This story is so old…and of course it is never taught so that we do it again.

    and the irony is, when despairing and helpless, when there is absolutely no way out, the cries to God erupt in massive waves…and society becomes believers…and pick themselves up after undergoing extermination. The regimes fall who have no slave to serve them anymore.

    and as usual, those who are pushing eugenics, are pushing to be able to create human beings who are DEVOLVED, engineered to lack the ability to believe in God, to believe in self-sustenance and to believe in family.

    If eugenics were so sure that they were right, they’d have proudly showed their plans, now more than 50 years into development. The problem is that the people who vote selfishly still have within themselves the divine soul that believes in man’s inherent nobility and worth.

    IF our side had just gone and researched the many billionaires (Soros, Gates, Buffett, Clinton, Obama (the last two millionaires but tehy will soon join those ranks or be forever funded by them)) and listened to the scientists who have been defecting from the world science groups, due to their horror at the plan to have no ‘random’ babies by 2025, Obama and most of our politicians would have been overthrown in a massive wave.

    it is truly all in God’s hands now, though we must never give up, even knowing that we may see no success in our lifetimes.

  • Patty

    Tonight the channel was left on NBC with Brian Williams. I don’t watch that TV station but there it was on that network.

    I watch Brian Williams and the story was about Romney pumping his own gas. Someone to a picture it was fuzzy but the wind had blown his hair, he looked disheveled. And Williams seems to be quite happy in reporting this. Seems the left did win, now, tell Williams.

    Making a story about Romney pumping his own gas? NOW THAT IS THE EVILNESS OF THE LEFT BIAS MEDIA. that one story made me want to barf.

  • Patty

    #38 continued. I never Watch NBC but it was on that channel because son was watching local news.

    I know now why I can’t stomach the Left Bias Media. That story. Shameful

  • Patty

    We Take Aborted Babies to the Trash Just Like Our Garbage
    [………………]

    I saw a picture of discarded babies in a box being taken out of an abortion center as easily and seamlessly as one would take out the trash.

    We live in a time where babies are trashed, literally. Even if we do not directly participate in shedding innocent blood and throwing children in the garbage, we condone it when we do nothing to stop this barbaric, evil practice of nonchalant murder called “choice.”[…………………]
    We need to wake up to the reality that over 3000 babies are ripped apart at the limb and sucked through death tubes in the name of choice. We need to awaken others to the reality that once life is removed from the womb, it is reassembled and viable parts are sold for profit to make and improve products that we use, even eat. We need to awaken a nation to the reality that babies are thrown away like garbage by the thousands.

    Please be moved with me by the tragic loss of lives today and every day until we end abortion. Please love life more than garbage. Please pray for God to end abortion completely. Please tell everyone you know that life is valuable.

    http://www.lifenews.com/2012/11/20/we-take-aborted-babies-to-the-trash-just-like-our-garbage/

  • squeaky

    [Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation……] i guess you can add shed your moral convictions. “A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have……” selling your soul for a piece of bread.

  • Patty

    I suppose this is Obama way to stop Gang Bangers in inner cities. The poor need to stop having babies they just become a burden on Society. That is my conclusion for Killing the innocent by Obama.

  • Patty

    ot

    Obama’s Labor Board Pushes Manufacturing Jobs Overseas

    http://townhall.com/columnists/fredwszolek/2012/11/20/obamas_labor_board_pushes_manufacturing_jobs_overseas

    When was this when Obama was accusing Romney of Outsourcing jobs to China?

  • Patty

    OT

    Up, Up, Giveaway!
    Food stamp enrollment skyrockets as unemployment rate declines

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/20/food-stamp-enrollment-skyrockets-as-unemployment-rate-declines/

  • Flintstone F.

    #3, #14

    That’s exactly what will happen. I’ll just get two jobs and pay the $700. How long can they hold up this (Obama) circus tent?

    #16

    The premise that employers should provide anything along the lines of healthcare was a questionable one when it began to become a standard benefit. Now that the government is going to cover everyone, the employer can just stay out of it all together by cutting hours.

    Why is there absolutely no consideration for the religious rights of the employers? They’ve given out exemptions to just about any of their supporting donors who don’t want to play the game. Why the relentless attack on Christians? I’d like to see a post about this topic alone as we come into Thanksgiving and Christmas.

  • texascitizen

    The goal of the left is to destroy everything which Honor’s God. They are the obedient slaves of Satan.

    Prepare for worse but never give in. Death will be the final resistance for many.

  • bg

    ++

    i wish everyone in America would just stop doing whatever
    it is they do all day and worship Obama, surely that would
    solve his dream of creating a Kingdom right here on Earth,
    no?? /s/

    ==

  • Robert

    If I was the owner of this company, I would fire all the women employees and have only male workers to avoid the problems with the law. Not very fair to the women, but one way to maintain your conscience and avoid the fine.

  • Jeannie

    #48, Robert, it wouldn’t matter. you are paying so that women EVERYWHERE can enjoy their orgasm and flip God the finger.

  • Robert

    Jeannie, I guess its time to close the doors-better to obey God than man.

  • DomesticGoddess

    PLEASE DO NOT COMPLY. Make them all PT employees and let the employees share the burden of the politics. We need to get the grass roots up and running.

  • Fionnagh

    All I want to know is how many of these people refused to vote for Romney because he was not conservative enough. If they refused to vote for the only possible person who could have won against BHO AND turned Obamacare over on its sorry a$$, then I don’t want to hear them griping now that they are being persecuted – and possibly will be prosecuted – for their religious beliefs.

  • Huck

    In Citizens United, the SC found that a corporation has 1st amendment rights to free speech. Now this judge says they don’t have 1st amendment rights to religious freedom. Huh?????

  • Joanne

    Time for a Velvet Revolution – non-violent, large protests, and people not going to work. Before you know it, Obama’s administration is going to have put so many companies out of business, people won’t even have jobs to go to.

  • Francesca

    It is not just Catholics. It is all Christians. Protestant churches, schools, hospitals, charitable organizations also are at risk.

    Muslims do not approve of abortion, either.

    Let’s not narrow the field of those reigious organizations which will be impactedby this.

  • midusdew

    1st Amendment US constitution

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    case closed hobby lobby wins.

  • Tabby

    Everyone needs to write Hobby Lobby & let them know we support them making all employees part time. I cannot deal with the thought that if I dare grow my business I will have to do this. Sorry, I’d rather have P/T employees & give them no insurance! Also, I think it’s time to organize a Hobby Lobby day where we flood the places with shoppers in support of them. I already go there regularly & love the business. Better than Michael’s IMHO.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    Sorry readers Gateway not presenting both sides

    Repeat after me: Gateway Pundit is NOT a journalist. He’s not under any obligation to present “both sides”. You can feel free to present a different side from that which is posted here, if you feel like it, and the debate will go from there.

  • Tabby

    BTW #55- Muslims approve of abortion if it’s kafirs (aka non-muslims) that get them, however Muslims are exempt from Obamacare so it doesn’t matter anyhow.

  • they could all convert to islam. they are exempt. how is that for adherence to the 14th admendment.

  • Jeannie

    #52….let them complain and let them find out what all of us only discovered through grace: There is no sideline in this country.

    How COULD they know any better?
    The church bishops, until very recently, were backing every socialist ‘gimme’ program. It’s very ironic, actually. This is probably the best lesson history will ever have of what happens when Christianity is willing to turn a blind eye in order to get their social programs.

    I am a conservative Catholic but I know that most of my peers were guaranteed to be churned out of high school and college believing that it’s all a fantasy and believing the PROVED lie (as in it is proved that it’s a lie) that religion was the cause of most deadly wars. In point of fact it is secularism and sometimes, as here, it is a government that believes Marx, Hitler, Stalin and Lenin, that Catholic doctrine and its legacy of freedom for all, must be destroyed in order to conquer.

    1 billion Catholics. Every Catholic DOES theoretically, belong to one belief. A huge number do not know their own beliefs because during the course of the last 50 years the activists in government, judiciary, media and academia, have thrown a deluge of power at silencing, misleading and isolating, stages 1 and 2 of persecution.

    Gay marriage is not about gay rights. Gays will find out all too soon that the eugenics movement wants them extinct, but for now they are useful pawns because gay marriage, make no mistake, WILL be the grounds to sue and shut down the church.

    The church, however, is very much like the people in “How the Grinch Stole Christmas”. When the grinch had taken everyTHING of Christmas, they held it and clearly held it well.

    The church is no building. It is no hierarchy. It is the sole represented body of Christ, his legacy promised to be here until he comes again as this world we know disappears once again as time dissolves and eternity resumes for souls.
    Every person, every building could be annihilated and it would still come back.

    Its seeds historically are in the blood of the martyrs.

  • Jeannie

    #55, aside from Islams being exempt, Protestantism is not unified in rejection of abortion. It is precisely this reason that Catholics, VERY unfortunately, are the last bastion in the world fighting for life. There is no certainty, if you speak to a Protestant, that you will hear that the FUNDAMENTAL foundation of all Protestantism rejects abortion.

    Many Protestants do, but they have forfeited their power through their disunion. Catholics may have voted incorrectly, but in truth, the moment a Catholic supports abortion, openly, he or she forfeits their faith. It is a GRAVE GRAVE sin, as in the kind of sin that unrepresented, will forfeit God’s mercy. No Protestant can expect that announcing their Protestantism means that people will automatically know that they are against abortion and contraception in their DOCTRINE.

    This is not a point of bragging for Catholics. Historically, do your reading. YOu will find in every oppressive regime, the stated mission to annihilate CATHOLICS.

    Right now, Africa and Asia and the Middle East are massacring Catholics at enormous rates and our president has no objection.

    The beautiful irony is that as CAtholics grow more threatened, but more steadfast, we are seeing a counterintuitive surge back INTO the faith by other denominations, other religions and even atheists and agnostics.

    It IS a Catholic thing because WE are being forced to be the face of protest for all of the rest who cannot unite.

    Again, it’s nothing to be envied and not to divide, but you might just consider the next time you knock Catholics that we’ll be the first to be persecuted.

  • Judges are just following the law and the law alone. You should be scared when organisations and people start refusing to obey the law and judicial decisions, you will be on the high way to a banana republic like Zimbabwe where the law is selective and the President is above any law. Be very careful!

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  • Rose

    God be with the owners as they decide what to do next.

    God be with Christians in America as they decide whether to keep on committing SUICIDE in America, or to do something about letting the Constitution slip through their fingers .

  • Rose

    #63 – in following the law and the law alone, the judges are destroying the USA Constitution, which ALONE has the BONDS OF COMMUNITY, RATIFIED OBLIGATIONS.

    The Law is NEVER above the RATIFIED CONSTITUTION! And the Judges are not above the Constitution and the Congress is NOT above the Constitution and the President(Executive) is NOT above the RATIFIED CONSTITUTION, and this particular “LAW” is NOT CONSTITUTIONAL” and it breaks the Bonds of Community, and we have no obligation to ABUSE of Authority to endorse and sanction it, regardless of the sense of legitimacy the organ gives ITSELF.

    The only Authorizing Power in America is THE RATIFYING MAJORITY of AMERICAN CITIZENS and I don’t care what this clob of Marxists say, they don’t have the RATIFICATION AUTHORIZATION of AMERICANS.

  • Flintstone F.

    #66 Rose

    Yes. You point out obvious truths that have all but been forgotten. Well said. It doesn’t help either when the news media intentionally, doesn’t help:

    This relates to the Nativity display in Santa Monica, but note how the part about respecting religion is glossed over but they emphasize the part for the offended atheists, that “government shall make no law…”

    Instead of printing the first amendment in whole like #56 midsusdew, the excerpt it (way to go NBC):

    The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees freedom of speech and religion, but also states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” According to the AP, that has been interpreted by courts as providing for separation of church and state, barring government bodies from promoting, endorsing or funding religion or religious institutions.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/19/15285265-santa-monica-can-block-popular-nativity-scene-in-park-judge-rules?lite