Bakers Union President: We Knew Hostess Could Die


Frank Hurt

Bakers Union President Frank Hurt released a statement yesterday after Hostess closed all of its American plants.
Hurt said the union knew Hostess could die.
They went on strike anyway and today 18,000 more Americans are out of work.
The Biz Journal reported, via RedState:

“Our members decided they were not going to take any more abuse from a company they have given so much to for so many years. They decided that they were not going to agree to another round of outrageous wage and benefit cuts and give up their pension only to see yet another management team fail and Wall Street vulture capitalists and ‘restructuring specialists’ walk away with untold millions of dollars.

“Throughout this long and difficult process, BCTGM members showed tremendous courage, solidarity and devotion to principle. They were well aware of the potential consequences of their actions but stood strong for dignity, justice and respect.”

Oh well, at least Frank still has a job.

(Thanks to Banafsheh Zand Bonazzi for the Twinkie funeral picture.)

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  • P. Aaron

    The Hostess brands will be reborn without the burden of these bureaucratic twits at reasonable wages probably in a RTW state near you. Can’t wait…running outta Ding Dongs.

  • bg

    ++

    OT..

    November 17, 2012

    3rd judge vetoes abortion pill mandate

    ==

  • “Wall Street vulture capitalists and ‘restructuring specialists’ walk away with untold millions of dollars.”

    Ironic thing in this case the private equity firm behind the Hostess restructuring is a prominent “progressive” Democrat with ties to the party elite.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-16/hostess-liquidation-curious-cast-characters-twinkie-tumbles

  • Flintstone F.

    “Throughout this long and difficult process, BCTGM members showed tremendous courage, solidarity and devotion to principle. They were well aware of the potential consequences of their actions but stood strong for dignity, justice and respect.”

    They showed stupidity and were prodded into mob behavior to cut their noses off. Stood strong for dignity, justice and respect? They’re unemployed bakers thanks to you.

  • bg
  • bear

    Good thinkin’ there frank hurt. Much better to put 18,500 folks and their families on the beach than face reality. After all, there are LOTS of jobs out there for ’em, huh?

    moron.

  • JenBee

    And now you got NOTHIN’.

    Enjoy it, cause you certainly earned it.

  • jb

    A completely clueless clown.

    No more needs to be said.

  • 6k workers put 18.5k workers out of a job
    this is kind of (yes it is a stretch) an example of why we are a constitutional republic using electoral college and not a democracy using purely popular vote.
    if the unions were electoral there would have been 3 votes.
    2 to work and 1 to strike (6k per each EV)
    the 2 win, they go back to work company stays alive.

  • bg

    ++

    re: #5 November 17, 2012 at 7:11 pm bg

    re: crosspatch #3 November 17, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    re: “Wall Street vulture capitalists and ‘restructuring specialists’

    [The largest banks are actually bigger than they were when he took
    office. And earned more in the first two-and-a-half years of his term
    than they did during the entire eight years of the Bush administration.]

    not to mention buffeting the real estate.. /s/

    [Democrats beat the market by 73 basis points per month, compared
    to 18 for Republicans. That’s a rout anyway you look at it. Senators
    fare even better than house members.]

    ==

  • Sandy

    This reminds me of the Chicago Mob. As long as your business wasn’t doing too well they would leave you alone. But the minute you were successful you had to pay protection money to stay in business.

    I thought that people belonged to unions because could guarantee their jobs. Now it seems like Union Bosses have another agenda all together.

  • Joscefi

    [QUOTE]Our members decided they were not going to take any more abuse from a company they have given so much to for so many years. They decided that they were not going to agree to another round of outrageous wage and benefit cuts…[/QUOTE]

    Earlier today, I read at Planck’s Constant, “…In case you are wondering what the company wanted from the workers: a baker making $1,000 a week would have to take a pay cut of $80 and contribute about $20 more toward his healthcare costs. Now that baker is taking a $1,000 per week pay cut – what a maroon….”

    http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/2012/11/where_will_the_stupid_stupid_hostess_union_workers.html

  • myohmy

    And…we went on strike anyway. SOBs. Reap what you sow.

  • Frank Scarn

    “but stood strong for dignity, justice and respect. And unemployment!”

    Look for the union label when you want to be shafted,

  • Uncle Monkey

    Because less money is far worse than none. Why should they have to suffer just because the company is?

    Well Frank, out there in realsville – let’s say there’s a guy who’s a bright successful executive with a proven track record. Now, why would he want to leave his cushy and safe job to get onto a possible sinking ship?

    What could possibly get him to do something so risky? Maybe, just maybe some of that money you’re talking about? And what if, after a few years of paying these people insane amounts of money they do their job actually turn the company around? Wouldn’t that be a win-win? Wouldn’t they need to hire even more people?

    Ah, what the hell am I talking about.
    Rich vulture CEO capitalist bad. Worker good. Union good! Fire bad!

  • BridgetGB

    Complete void of logic. The Predatory extortionist i.e. Union Boss makes it sound like they were in a Soviet-style ghetto. Funny thing, it was Democrat party-tied management in control at Hostess.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2012/11/17/politicos-cirilli-others-ignore-heavy-democrat-involvement-hostess-manag

    Another Torch and Destroy moment brought to you by Unions and the Democrat party

  • bobdog

    Good job. After all, there was a PRINCIPLE at stake. Can’t take no more abuse. Can’t let ’em get away with it. Serves ’em right.

    Hey, guys – got any plans for the holidays?

  • AmericaWILL

    When are the workers going to realize that strikes hurt no one but them. Their so called ‘reps’ will still have a job. Stupid.

  • bg
  • Rhonda

    I was reading comments on other sites and someone wrote that Hostess already has deals with major snack company in Canada. We will have to import our Twinkies and Ho Ho’s if true.

  • Sasja

    Bakers made $1,000/wk? They actually paid someone that much to pour flour, sugar, salt and whatnot into a large vat? What did the quality control folks earn? How many employees did they really need since everything is automated?

  • midusdew

    “Our members decided they were not going to take any more abuse from a company they have given so much to for so many years. They decided that they were not going to agree to another round of outrageous wage and benefit cuts and give up their pension only to see yet another management team fail and Wall Street vulture capitalists and ‘restructuring specialists’ walk away with untold millions of dollars.”

    funny thing, just replace company with union, this is exactly hostess position.

    pinko’s like the union when faced with accountability always blame someone else.

  • RKflorida

    The union rank and file went along with this idiot. They could have voted not to strike, or crossed the picket lines. Many did cross the lines, but not enough to maintain production. These striking workers are truly the face of the Democratic party, especially the part that Obama represents. Save your logical arguments, they live in a pink, puffy, unicorn world.

  • Larry Scarn

    Didya notice that union boss Frank Hurt has a perfect attendance record at dinner. At pre-dinner, breakfast, lunch, and every hack politician festivity. Ever!

  • dan

    I get so sick of those of you that never had to work for this company.They treat their worker like crap.7 am start to 7 pm never 2 days off .The pay folks low compared to the hours worker put in. So sick of opinions from those who had no clue what Hostess was like.To many Americans do not see what’s happening.These companies know that they can do whatever they want to the worker because hey! there 25 million out of work,Those on the top of the company get their pocket filled to over flowing and the average worker get low pay.How long people before you realize this .

  • dan

    Correction 5 am to 7 pm kind of days ..

  • midusdew

    dan we all are making sacrifices these days what planet are you on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sasja

    Dan. I’d hardly consider earning $1,000/wk low wages. By the way. No one forced them to work there. They were free to find other employment. You know what a real baker earns in a small bakery? No where near $1,000 and they put in long hours. If they own the bakery, chances are most of their profit goes right back into the business. Maybe these “bakers” could open their own shop since they have so much experience in dropping dry ingredients into a large tub.

    Why don’t you ask this Hurt guy just how much he earns for no work. From his pic, I would guess it’s no paltry sum.

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  • Redlite

    Well Now..You can’t feed your families dignity, honor and respect. Tell your kids that you quit your good paying jobs and that they will have to go hungry for a while!

    One of my neighbors was an employee at the Sweatheart Bread store here in town and now she will be out of work. She is absolutely devastated by the insanity of this travesty.. Will the Unions help these people out?
    Thought not.

  • jb

    Dan –

    Who was twisting your arm to work under such third-world conditions, as you describe them.

    Whiner! You (or your fellow “hotesses” whined your way into unemployment.

    Very intelligent decision. Commendable and all . . . 🙂

  • GotFreedom

    When you point a finger at the company, you have 3 pointing back at yourself you greedy, selfish b@$tards!!!

    To all you folks who are now out of work. . .why don’t you go camp out on Mr. Hurt’s front lawn and see if maybe he’ll share a meal or two with you; maybe give you his spare change to help you pay your bills that aren’t going away even though you no longer have a way to pay them!

  • But now they can do at home what they had been doing at work:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_TGQ7rGL-Q

  • Thinning of the herd. Painful but necessary.

  • hermie

    The union president will still get his cushy pension, his huge salary, his perks and the ‘prestige’ of being lord and master over 18,000 out of work union members who will still have to pay dues for the ‘honor’ of holding a worthless union card.

  • Granny

    #26 November 17, 2012 at 7:37 pm
    dan commented:

    Correction 5 am to 7 pm kind of days ..
    ____

    Oh PUH-LEASE! That kind of work schedule would be illegal in many states – and no union in the country would agree to such hours as the “norm”.

  • JenBee

    Dan, I work 12 1/2 hour shifts as a respiratory therapist, and I don’t make anywhere near $1,000 a week. AND I had to go to school for four years, putting myself in considerable debt to do so. Please, do tell, what sort of education you had to pay for and how much time and energy you had to put into it to become a baker?

    See this is the problem with unions. Typically they need no schooling past high school, yet they demand wages upwards of $40-$50 an hour, PLUS pension, PLUS grade-A healthcare. While people like me work so hard through school for a median wage. You’ll say that we ALL deserve union pay, but brainwashed by your union-mentality, you do not understand that your way is simply unsustainable and quite unrealistic. Out here in the real world we understand that businesses simply cannot afford to pay your wages AND your healthcare AND your pension-for-life after some 20-odd years of work.

    It’s simply a disconnect of reason. We get it, you don’t.

  • Larry

    What I want to know is how anyone thinks pouring flour, water, sugar and a few other ingredients possibly rates more than being a minimum wage job. A few people working for the company who actually have to have a skill set (machinery maintenance, etc.) should be paid more.

    If the $1,000 a week base pay is correct then they were getting paid $25 an hour to open bags and dump them in a hopper. Add to that the employer part of taxes plus benefits and Hostess was probably paying in the neighborhood of $40 to $45 an hour per employee…..and we wonder why a twinkie costs more than the 50 cents they are worth.

    Now these rocket scientists who quit their jobs will have their union help them all sign up for food stamps, unemployment and every other assistance available. Thus adding a further burden to the system that is already overload system. Look around hostes union people…..the non-working freeloaders you have been whining about being taxed to help???? It’s you!!!! And this is why disabled people and those truly needing help don’t get what they need. Nice job guys. EPIC FAIL!!

  • Earthmover

    Why dont these unemployed workers pool their genius and simply start their own
    bakery and show the world how to do it? Pay themselves 200 an hour! Its easy,
    come on!

  • lynndh

    The union guy still has a job and a paycheck. His members that worked for Hostess do not. For most of us that is a bit disjointed. Too bad he can’t be fired. Bet his salary and bennies are hirer than the management of Hostess.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    “Our members decided they were not going to take any more abuse from a company they have given so much to for so many years.”

    So why’d they stick around with Hostess for that long? If they felt they were getting shafted, why didn’t they get jobs with some other outfit?

  • “vulture capitalists,” “restructuring specialists,” the union workers stood for “solidarity.” the communist party couldn’t have said it better. the problem with the present-day unions is they have union leaders like this. their political agenda is more important to them then the welfare of their members.

  • Sasja

    Earthmover has a great idea. Hey, Dan. Get your buds together and you all start your own bakery. You can pay yourself any amount and give yourself large pensions. You don’t need to worry about making a profit. Everyone knows businesses don’t need to show a profit. They’re only in existence to give everyone a job.

  • Earthmover

    I was listening to the Lars Larson radio show today and this Hostess situation was
    the topic. They had six different unions represented, 372 different collective bargain
    agreements to adhere too. Bread and twinkies had to be delivered in different trucks
    and the driver couldnt stock the product, some other tool had to do that! Sounds
    efficient to me….

  • lonestar

    Too bad about all those union dues Frank Hurt won’t be getting, or rather, the democrats.

  • Sasja

    I knew union members were whiny crybabies. My next door neighbor used to whine and complain when he worked for GM back in the ’90’s. Well they shut down that plant and then he tried to get us to listen to his whining about that. I never could figure out what his problem was because he worked the night shift and according to his stories, they didn’t do much work. Just horsed around alot and were paid very well in the process.

  • ALL_IS_LOST

    The wisdom of this man astounds me. Of course you are right. At least he still has a job.

  • Oh and remember Frank Hurt makes over $262,654.00 per year, off of the wages and labor of his poor abused employees

    ““Our members decided they were not going to take any more abuse from a company they have given so much to for so many years. They decided that they were not going to agree to another round of outrageous wage and benefit cuts and give up their pension only to see yet another management team fail and Wall Street vulture capitalists and ‘restructuring specialists’ walk away with untold millions of dollars.”

    Hey Frank You are the “vulture” that made millions off of the labor of the real employees. You sorry #$% the American people are aware of your “Rules for Radical” union tactics and the BS wont work anymore. the AFL-CIO, Teamsters and sub terrain union subset like yours has been the sole cause of killing American manufacturing for 50 years and driving jobs overseas, you people piss me off, as I think about my home town in Ohio the entire state hanging on by a thread because of parasites like you.

  • Economan

    “Abuse”?

    Great. So what do you call it when people can’t pay their bills now? Oh we’ll.

  • Sasja

    crosspatch. One of my favorites from Abbott and Costello.

  • Stella Baskomn

    “Bakers Union President: We Knew Hostess Could Die”

    PeeWee Herman, after crashing his bike over a curb and into a yard: “I meant to do that.”

  • Indiana

    Perfect example that liberalism is a mental disorder. I wonder how long it’s going to take for them to look at their cut off noses lying on the ground…..and say “Oh S**T! Unions give unions a bad name.

  • donh

    Frank Hurt…aptly named…..He figured the company was in no position to survive a strike and he could Hurt them.

  • Chico Escobar

    I don’t see why the Gov. couldn’t mandate that folks pay $12 per Ho-Ho or some such? Everyone would be happy that way… cept for the folks that like Ho-Ho’s. But to hell with them since I don’t like Ho-Ho’s.

  • Sorry to Live in Illinois

    “BCTGM members showed tremendous courage, solidarity and devotion”

    That don’t pay the bills!

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  • Rachelle

    Nobody who has ever been a member of that union should ever be hired by anyone again.

    All of them are either stupid or crazy or both.

    Gives me the creeps to think I ate treats made by morons like these. I hope machines did most of the work.

  • bg

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    crosspatch #33 November 17, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    spot on!!

    also passed it on, thanks..

    ==

  • Kate

    I am at a loss deciding who is more stupid…union leaders and their BS or the fools that follow them. THEY HAVE NO JOBS. Are they insane?

  • Jenn

    I think the striking union members should be ineligilbe for unemployment. They voluntarily left their jobs. The poor workers they shafted in the process deserve to see these idiots suffer!

  • Sasja

    Kate, my vote is for the fools who follow them.

  • Truth teller

    Wy are all the union dim-wits fat with mustaches?

  • jb books

    I suspect we will be seeing a lot more of this in the near future. And I also suspect that few of the “entitled class” will connect the dots.

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  • dwd

    All you union bakers paid your union dues month after month, and what did the union do for you? Got you fired. Everyone at the union still has a job, although they’ll have to figure out a way to find some new suckers to fleece union dues out of now that you are out of a job and can’t give them money anymore. Amazing how that works, isn’t it?

  • dw dude

    call it “The Twinkie Rebellion”…more entities need to go through bankruptcy to shed union bloodsuckers. have fun at your minimum wage jobs after unemployment ends, union fools. my condolences to the non union victims who were willing to work.

  • dreamkitten61

    FRANK HURT

    PRESIDENT

    Salary Breakdown (2011)
    ■ Gross Salary: $210,672.00
    ■ Allowances: $14,700.00
    ■ Official Business: $12,074.00
    ■ Other Compensation: $25,208.00
    ■ Total Compensation: $262,654.00

  • kato

    Dan, you’re a fraud. If the pay is so low and the hours so long, why did these dolts pay dues to a union that wasn’t doing its job of making sure that unskilled workers are overpaid and underworked?

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  • Jeannie

    The San FRancisco Wharf was one of the world’s leading wharfs, taking in millions daily.

    Unions killed it so it’s now a kitschy wharf with a few ports for some kitschy tourist shops, while most are dark and empty.

    So Oakland stepped in and thrived.

    Guess who’s been trying to shut them down.

    Waiting for CA to become bad enough that all of these electorally supported corrupt mega-millionaires (who give nothing personally to charity but get insider training and crony favors) move and we can begin to clean up and THIS time do what that Arizona gun store owner did…keep them the hellaway.

  • squeaky

    “Hurt said the union knew Hostess could die.” in a nut shell. he can’t say he didn’t see it coming. acting like a desperate gambler who goes all in to lose it all.

  • Joe Blow

    Stupid union dastards!

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  • squeaky

    since hostess is a bakery this can’t be too ot……the gingerbread man
    [Surely leaving our ambassador and his staff and those guarding them to die when rescue was possible and then lying to Congress and the public about it for political advantage are impeachable offenses, but in the absence of a Special Prosecutor statute of the sort that permitted the investigation of President Clinton, only Congress can catch the gingerbread man. Are they up to the task?] the commentors were weighing in on who runs the show. i was listening to some talking head going on about axelrod being in on some meeting he had no clearance for and you have to wonder how true. a” fly by the seat of their pants adm”?
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/the_gingerbread_man.html
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/closest-political-adviser-attends-obamas-kill-list-meetings_646256.html

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  • briscuit

    Tell that to the other 70% that ratified a contract to allow the company to stay in business so they could have a job. Greedy bastards

  • thegoldman

    Still want to join unions ?

  • Orwellian States

    Yo Frank! I’ll bet you still have your job, and I bet you are still pulling down a nice dayday every week. Your union left another 15,000 works high and dry. You are living proof that unions are useless and their leaders are money grabbing thugs. What a total dumb ass. But then your membership can’t be composed of any Einsteins. Screwing up all those jobs this close to the holidays ….. going to be a bleak Thanksgiving and Christmas for a lot of union families brought to you by Frank — still getting paid.

  • james g.

    I fix airplanes and dont make that much yet. So stop crying. Your job is not hard.

  • Uphold the Second Amendment

    …and to think, the right to work states are still producing jobs and not shutting down plants. Shame on us!

  • crackermike

    Bakers my ass. These guys are unskilled dudes that pull trays and empty barrels. The Union leadership is so proud they put Twinkies out of business. Of course the union bosses still have fat, cushy jobs and paychecks and payola. The stupid workers are out on their asses going on unemployment which probably suits at least some of them just fine. Next stop; welfare, food stamps and a lifetime of slavery to Democratic party bosses. Once you’re hooked on welfare heroin, very few ever get off. This is Obama’s plan for Americans in a nutshell.

  • DomesticGoddess

    These thugs will now go on to collect bennies from the taxpayers. They are weak and bully their way through life. Entitled POS’ with nothing to offer society. Scum!

  • Grandma Perkins

    “I’ll give you my Twinkie when you pry it from my cold, dead hands”

  • This my mother (88yrs ) calls this ‘biting off your nose to spite you face’.

  • Correction My (88yrs young) mother calls this ‘cutting off your nose to spite your face.’ This is the fist time that I have ever commented on a blog but intend to do it more often.

  • Kyle

    Hey Dan move to China as see how many hours you work. When is working 12 hrsa day a bad thing. I sometimes work 18 hrs in a day and glad to do it. Companys do not owe people jobs. Oh and one other thing. The people who own hotess must no be making to much money cause we all know nobody is stupid enough to close a company thats making millions. Way to go. Hey why dont you go get you a job making minimun wage working 12 hrs a day and see how that works for you.

  • mjking55

    Kind of reminds me of the this last election, rehiring a no-doing incumbent to keep doing what he’s been doing with out results!

  • obfuscatenot

    18,000 union folk should end up on Mr. Hurts doorstep. The Union elite are always willing to share with the workers…..

  • conservative dude

    These guys were getiing paid $35.00/hour and wouldn’t take a 8% pay cut. How stupid is that?

  • bg

    ++

    November 18, 2012

    Congressman Allen West

    ==

  • RedStateGal

    # 25 Dan, throughout history people have worked hard to feed and clothe their families. How is this news? You want to work less hard? Put yourself in a position of power through savings, frugality and education. THIS is the way the world works. Now, you have no power. You are home on the couch with some government wonk deciding what is due you. Congrats. And btw, I haven’t received a wage increase in four years with my health insurance costs going up each and every year.

  • cjrian

    Strikers who knowingly cause the permanent closure of their employer suffer from self-inflicted wounds and should be denied unemployment insurance and welfare in any form.

  • Steamer5

    Check out Youtube, Abbott and Costello in the loafing videl. It’s all about the bakers union and it ties in very nicely with what just happened. In fact, it explains it better than the pundits can.

  • Freddy

    “They were well aware of the potential consequences of their actions but stood strong for dignity, justice and respect.”

    This IDIOT thinks that the UNEMPLOYMENT LINE is a form of ‘respect’.

    In this case it is not. In fact, it is a statement of ignorance and hatred. At the end of the day, all the members of this union have is their hate. Well, that and whatever unemployment , food stamps, and other government handouts they can STEAL from the productive people of the country.

  • jon

    I wonder if they are eligible for unemployment since they walked off the job.

  • chuck mckenna

    this is to dan WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! YOUR STUPID UNION COST YOU YOUR JOB, OUR SOLDIERS GO THROUGH A LOT WORSE AND I DON’T HEAR THEM CRYING SO STOP WHINING YOUR UNION PRESIDENT IS LYING AND YOU UNION IDIOTS STRIKED YOUR SELF OUT OF A JOB WHAT IDIOT DOES THAT? NO PITTY HERE.

  • aprilnovember811

    Fat piece of crap.

  • They “…stood strong for dignity, justice and respect.” Oh right, it is so much better to have no job at all then to take a cut in pay and lose your dignity and self-respect. How do you like the justice part so far? Oh well, two out of three ain’t bad. There is some good news, they don’t have to take any more abuse from the company. Nothing like pouring gasoline on yourself and then lighting the match. Sorry I’m unable to muster up any sympathy for moronic self-destructive behavior

  • Brad

    I got an engineering degree and only take home $750.00 a week. Guess I should be a baker and get a raise. Hey Dan, I work 50 and 60 hour weeks as well, it’s called a job. It lets you buy a home and a car. Oh, and food. Now because of selfish union and I’ve got a job union bosses, I get to support how many union workers?

  • harley guy

    First of all the idiot bakers of hostess never made a thousand dollars a week. I dont know who is promoting that BS. Are they the stupidest union on the planet yes they are!! We got sold out down the line company and union. Tell the truth the most wastefull company i ever worked for.Theres gold in them there products all you need is someone that knows how to run a bakery operation.Best of all they want to give more bonuses out while they basicly fling you out and try to beat you out of your last check and vacation time.Most of the transport driver will find other jobs to tell you the truth theres a plenty of them i got 4 guys call my house already.But fat ass frank hurt thew his members under the bus .You couldnt talk to the robots striking so now they got nothing ,no unemployment,insurance,or hope of finding another bakery job.Good luck to all hotess brand employees in the future.