Awful… Vatican Cardinal Accuses Israeli Government of Baby-Killing

This ought to set back relations a couple decades.

Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi

Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, President of the Vatican Council for Culture, called Israel baby-killers during an interview this week.
Israel National News reported, via Israel Matsav:

Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, President of the Vatican Council for Culture, commenting on the war between Israel and Hamas, delivered a severe attack on the Jewish people: “I think of the ‘massacre of the innocents’. Children are dying in Gaza, their mothers’ shouts is a perennial cry, a universal cry”.

The Catholic Church high official equated Israel’s operation in Gaza against terror groups with the New Testament story of Herod’s slaughter of Jewish babies in his effort to kill Jesus.

Ravasi, who is one of the most popular Catholic cardinals and the director of the Church’s policy on culture, called Israelis baby-killers in a shameless form of anti-Semitism which subtly accuses the Jewish State of trying to murder the new Jesus, symbolized by the Palestinian people.

And this is the man in charge of culture?
Obviously, Cardinal Ravasi is not cultured enough to understand that Hamas hides its weapons in mosques and schools and fires its rockets indiscriminately at Israeli apartment buildings.
What a disgusting comment.

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  • ★FALCON★

    Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi is just reprehensible. And Catholicism is wondering why they are having a hard time attracting parishioners, priests, and nuns. Ratzinger isn’t living up to John Paul the Second, either.

  • apodoca

    This cardinal is full of crap making common cause with Muslims , who are killing Jews and Christians everywhere. it is no wonder that Arab Christians blame Jews for everything when Rome spouts anti-Semitic filth. Rome needs to know that the Beast cannot be appeased.

  • PetuniaPig

    There is no real surprise with his statement.

    For decades the Vatican has been attempting to ingrate itself with Muslims. Also the Islamic faith (can it be called ‘faith’?) venerates Mary just as the Roman Catholics do. They’re just one big happy family!

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  • PetuniaPig

    @ #2 November 23, 2012 at 7:41 am
    apodoca commented:
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    Hey, don’t get to excited – the Orthodox Christians are even more anti-semitic than the Papist branch. As far as ‘The Beast’ of Islam… There are many believers who in ages past considered (and still do) the Roman Catholic church as the seat of the Beast of Revelations.

  • Shawnet

    Hey Petunia,

    Good morning ;O) I’m an Irish Catholic Grandmother who within my faith (a much different concept than religion) vernates Mary and I don’t have any problem with folks who disagree with my faith choices and concepts; but when someone attacks with the same weaponry they are decrying all I can say to those folks, and Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi is a teacher once told me:

    Better to let people think you a fool rather than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    You all have a great weekend ;O)

  • FU#K OBAMA

    I guess the Vatican needs some cash from the filthy muslims…..

  • Will

    I believe it was Herod the Great who slaughtered the innocents. Herod was a puppet of Rome.
    Herod slaughtered Jewish innocents. Now this Cardinal…this legacy of Rome, dares to call Jews slaughterers of innocents?

    It’s come full circle folks!

  • Inquisition

    Coming from a corrupt religion that was built on the blood of innocents, the Cardinals comments are most inappropriate. And by the way Cardinal, why all the interest in little children? Worried the supply of young boys may be diminished?

  • donh

    WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM A POPE WHO WAS RAISED INSIDE HITLER’S NAZI YOUTH PROPGRAM ?

  • vb

    It sounds like this guy spends too much time hanging out with the culture elites. What he is sying could be found in any newspaper.

  • Israelis do not need permission from the pope to defend themselves, thank G-d.

  • Dr Van Nostrand

    I think I could actually hear Pat Buchanan and other Catholic paleos get a hard on when this came out.

    Jokes aside, let’s not get excited- remember Vatican is a large organization based in a country which produced Machiavelli.
    Don’t look at what they say but what they do.
    Fewer Popes have been more pro Israel than Ratzinger.Let’s all take a deep breath. This could be tied to Obamas battle with the Church. They may thrown him a morsel to placate when he anticipates a drawdown of forces against freedom of religion. We simply don’t know.

    Relax and easy with the Catholic bashing- they are allies as well$

  • ★FALCON★


    #8 November 23, 2012 at 8:31 am
    Will commented:

    It’s come full circle folks!

    Will – read the Odessa File and you’ll have your eyes opened, wide.

  • ★FALCON★


    #13 November 23, 2012 at 9:12 am
    Dr Van Nostrand commented:

    Fewer Popes have been more pro Israel than Ratzinger.

    Holy Christ – you must not know his background, nor that of his brother.

  • would someone ask the cardinal what he thinks of all the catholics that are being slaughtered in the middle east and africa by the religion of peace. i don’t see the jews killing any of us.

  • Dr Van Nostrand

    Holy Christ – you must not know his background, nor that of his brother.”

    I’m well aware that he was in the Hitler Youth but who wasn’t a member of the Nazi Party back then in Germany?
    He was very young. People can change.

    I don’t know Mr Falcon in all matters Vatican and Israel , I turn to David P Goldman and he makes a very strong case that the current Vatican is pro Israel.

  • Swifty

    I want to see this same cardinal call out Obama for being the abortion president. Until he does, I don’t give a rat’s ass what he says. He’s a hypocritical idiot.

  • More liberty

    Oh no…someone questioned Israel.

  • westie

    The RCC has been allied with Muslim Nazi’s at least since WW2…read some of the WW2 history in the Balkans.

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  • Marmo

    #19 More liberty:

    More to the point, nobody questions the Palestinians. Do you think their motives (the Palestinians) for violence get the same scrutiny from world leaders?

  • When you explore the link between Communist/Socialist Elites and certain Elites of every religious faith, then you can connect the domination dots.

  • Redwine

    This antisemitic Ravasi should be sent pictures of the Israeli Fogel family of Itamar, slaughtered by his beloved “Palestinians”. This filthy fascist seems to be totally unaware of the Nazi ties of the whole “Palestinian” fraud. Their entire raison d’etre is to exterminate the Jews. They preach it in their mosques, teach it in their schools, scream it in the streets of that cursed hellhole called Gaza.

  • Linda

    Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi you should SPEND SOME TIME READING YOUR OWN BIBLE BEFORE YOU CRITICIZE THE ISRAELIS FOR ONE!

    IT IS PEOPLE LIKE “YOU” THAT ARE THE ONES PROSECUTING JESUS WHEN YOU GO AFTER THE CHRISTIANS AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE.

    God said in Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all familiies of thee earth be blessed.

    Israel like anyone else has a God given right to defend themselves and when people like Hamas uses children as shields…it is Hamas who WILL ANSWER TO GOD!

    “Ravasi said…called Israelis baby-killers in a shameless form of anti-Semitism which subtly accuses the Jewish State of trying to murder the new Jesus, symbolized by the Palestinian people.”

    How dare you call Palestinian people “Jesus”…when they are anti-Christ!

    I expect the Catholic Church to refute this, otherwise they are saying they are in agreement with this ideology!

  • Buffalobob

    Was the cardinal’s statement made during a George Stephanopoulos interview?

  • Carbon Pootprint

    Get him an apartment in the Gaza strip and let his buddies set up a rocket launcher behind it. Buh Bye

  • Patty

    And the Catholic Church wonders why their congregation is leaving in droves.

  • Fuquay Steve

    #8 you are so much in error, one doesn’t know where to start.

  • Fuquay Steve

    The ignorance on the part of the commenters on this site is remarkable. No matter what the ignoramuses say when they were the red hats, the church stands with the innocents. The fact this fellow doesn’t know who is innocent is a comment on him not the church. The gates of hell will never conquer the true church – can you say the same for USA? Based on November elections, I doubt it.

  • Jeannie

    And now you see why John Paul II was reported to have found secret areas with his closest, as in Benedict.

    Just as America has to deal with those who hate America, so the Vatican is full of those who don’t necessarily hate Jews, but hate ALL Judeo Chritianity and support an oppressive regime.

    Case in point: The San Francisco archdiocese until October was headed by an archbishop who turned a blind eye to his most famous parishioner, Nancy Pelosi. Likewise countless Jesuits in that archdiocese were incensed when Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone was placed there by the Pope.

    The Pope doesn’t comment on our dirty laundry because just as every nation, every neighborhood has saboteurs, so the Catholic church has always had them. You’ll hear widely about those who have abused privilege, but never about those who fought against it. Likewise in the U.S., LIkewise everywhere.

    There is an IMMENSE amount of good that NOBODY is doing but the CAtholic church, but one of the directives of the faith is that neither prayer nor good deeds be done deliberately for attention.

    That was SUPPOSED to have been the role of an impartial media.

    But just as one example: No less than Bill Clinton admitted that Haiti’s relief would have NEVER had any legs and progress had it not been for the Catholic mission established there decades before.

    Likewise after Sandy, when the FEMA crew were staying at posh NYC hotels, Christian relief organizations (for this purpose putting a spotlight on Catholic Relief CHarities) were rushing in and getting things done…not the least having water and blankets (two things FEMA had none of).

  • Jeannie

    Fuquay STeve, forgive them because they ARE ignorant but the evil of the modern education and atheist zeitgeist is to teach them lies and make them feel smart and sophisticated.

    Just a little research would disprove the ignorance, but the sexual revolution makes sure everyone is a perpetrual adolescent, forever superior and self-involved, but never curious and never willing to obey even a suggestion of looking for more evidence.

    They know not what government and atheism have made sure that they do not know.

    It is the age of persecution and that Cardinal, knowingly or unknowingly (and sadly it’s entirely possible he is wishing for it) is setting up persecution, massacre and denunciation of hte Catholic church.

    The age of the spy is alive and well everywhere and think of how many Europeans in the Vatican have been long proponents of socialism and anti-semitism..but look for it to be the same last 50 years that have plastered the world with the desire for freedom oppression .

  • Skip

    Ugh. Nothing like a lone Catholic making some stupid statements to draw out the anti-Catholic bigots from under their rocks. Jim, given the fine quality of your commenters, I’m sure Jamie Allman (former PR man for the St. Louis Archdioce, under the super-awesome, Obama slammer Cardinal Raymond Burke) will be happy to have you back on his show.

    Firstly, this doesn’t represent any Vatican position. Who even knew there was a “Council for Culture”? Not this Catholic. I guess the mouth breathers claiming “the Roman Catholic church as the seat of the Beast of Revelations” (looking at you, Petunia!) did? I’m guessing “No”.

    I can’t sugar-coat the history of Catholic and Jewish relations, but they have vastly improved in the last 50 years. How many other religious leaders were recognized by Yad Vashem as “Righteous Among the Nations” for saving Jewish lives during the Holocaust? (see Angelo Roncalli – Pope John XXIII. How many televangelists gave their lives in concentration camps? (see Maxmillian Kolbe, ever hear of him?).

    Is that the “legacy of Rome” Will #8 mentions? Probably not, because his history has been spood fed to him. By the way, Will, Catholicism and the Rome bishopric didn’t exist during the reign of Herod.

    Inquisition, #9, you do know your namesake was a response to violent Muslim oppression in Spain for over 600 years? As Tertullian noted (look him up), “the blood of martyrs is the seed of the Church”, so you’re right, Catholics have been giving their lives even to Muslims (see ‘Martyrs of Cordoba) for centuries.

    donh, #10, I’m guessing you type in all caps because of a learning disability, but FYI, membership in the Hitlerjugend was mandatory, so Germans of any age (including Reagan conservative allies like Helmut Kohl) had to be members.

    Dr Van Nostrand, you almost get it right, Ratzinger is pro-Israel, as his many visits show. The Vatican, however was historically part of the Papal States, while Macchiavelli was born and raised in the non-Papal Republic of Florence.

    Most Catholics I know support Israel, and not because they think Jeebus is coming back on a white horse to covert all teh Joos, but because we recognize the right if history’s underdogs to finally defend themselves.

    /Rant.

    Keep on hating, haters!

  • aprilnovember811

    Another leftist hiding behind the church.

  • saveus

    He’ll tell a different tale when he bends over for the muslims.

  • Maudie N Mandeville

    Dearest Skip: I guess real Catholics are fed up with 50 years of Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi types being elevated and then given a platform to spew hatred and liberal ignorance. And he could be pope?

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  • Skip

    Maudie: I’ve never heard of Gianfranco Ravasi before today. Chances of him becoming Pope? I’m guessing slim. The Church leadership is much more conservative than in the past. Note the weeding out of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, and just a few days ago Roy Bourgeois laicized.

    The liberal Catholic is an endagered species, and hopefully getting rarer.