White House Says It Did Not Deny Requests for Help in Benghazi – But Did Not Issue Orders to Save US Security Officials Either

Last night Bing West, a former Assistant Secretary of Defense, told Greta Van Susteren that if Obama gave the order to secure the consulate in Benghazi there would be a paper trail,

“If that actually happened the way President Obama said it happened, there’s a paper trail and I think people reasonably enough can say, “Can we see the order?” because hundreds of others supposedly saw this order.

So far no one has offered any evidence that Obama made the order to protect our men on the ground in Benghazi the night of the attack.

Today the Obama Administration told reporters that they did not deny requests for help in Benghazi.
Top of the Ticket reported:

The White House on Saturday flatly denied that President Barack Obama withheld requests for help from the besieged American compound in Benghazi, Libya, as it came under on attack by suspected terrorists on September 11th.

“Neither the president nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi,” National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told Yahoo News by email.

Fox News Channel reported Friday that American officials in the compound repeatedly asked for military help during the assault but were rebuffed by CIA higher-ups.

Notice what is missing from the statement?  The administration did not say it issued orders to secure the consulate and protect our ambassador. This is despite the many pleas for assistance coming from the consulate and annex.
Where are the orders Mr. President?

More… In a similar vein Bill Kristol at The Weekly Standard asked these 10 questions of the White House today.

1.) To whom did the president give the first of his “three very clear directives”—that is, “make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to?”

2.) How did he transmit this directive to the military and other agencies?

3.) During the time when Americans were under attack, did the president convene a formal or informal meeting of his national security council? Did the president go to the situation room?

4.) During this time, with which members of the national security team did the president speak directly?

5.) Did Obama speak by phone or teleconference with the combatant commanders who would have sent assistance to the men under attack?

6.) Did he speak with CIA director David Petraeus?

7.) Was the president made aware of the repeated requests for assistance from the men under attack? When and by whom?

8.) Did he issue any directives in response to these requests?

9.) Did the president refuse to authorize an armed drone strike on the attackers?

10.) Did the president refuse to authorize a AC-130 or MC-130 to enter Libyan airspace during the attack?

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  • Oliver

    Does this mean the White House didn’t get any requests, or that they IGNORED the requests?

  • Kate

    No one died in Watergate yet the MSM was frothing at the mouth and all over it. Fast and Furious over 200 people died, one of our agents and now 4 American deaths in Libya while Obama fiddles in the WH. Except for FOX News, what does one hear? The silence is deafening. Guess these liberals don’t much care for American lives either. How can anyone support this horrid excuse for an human being much less a president?

  • donh

    Jim is catching on to the Obama shuck and jive double speak….This is how Obama lies. He says he did not deny the request to send help….and that may very well be true…..He failed to authorize the commitment of force….said wait a minute…let me think about it…..I will get back to you…..but a sin of omission is a denial of service . To not make a decision when one is called for is a decision.

  • Sasja

    There was no request to deny nor was there a plea for assistance nor did they issue orders to secure the consulate or our ambassador even if there had been a urgent plea for help which there wasn’t because the CIA ignored those pleas that never came and which the preezy knew nothing about because no one tells him anything except he said he issued a directive to secure the consulate which was just a target for protestors because of a non-film and AQ is on the run because he got OBL.

    I don’t know what I just wrote.

  • robotech master

    “Did not deny” hmmm can we also get a “Did not tell people to stand down/wait/wait for further order/anything else on this line”?

    Somehow I suspect they are using an insanely narrow definition of “deny”.

  • valerie

    Barack Obama doesn’t sign anything. He thinks that will protect himself.

  • Sasja

    Kate, they support him because they are just as horrid as he.

  • RealMc

    “Present”

    but not for long…………

  • Sasja

    OT

    Need to take a few moments from this madness? Then look at God’s creation.

    http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/50-years-solar-system-exploration/

  • mg4us

    No More Shuck And Jive. . .Or else Ambassador would be alive!

    We Demand Answers
    We Demand Accountability
    We Demand The Truth!

    Call your Congressman, Senator and local paper. . .
    All Congress up for re-election. .
    makes a great local paper front page if MSM won’t cover. .

    Behind Every Blade of Grass is A TEA Party Patriot!

    Come Nov 6, We are ready to take OUR COUNTRY BACK
    To Restore & RENEW

    And to Court Marshal any Commander-in-chief
    for Dereliction of duty
    surrendering OUR EMBASSIES. . .
    and for denying fellow Americans help. . leaving them to die (or be sodomized first)

    May even try folks at high level with treason!

  • Patty

    THEY ARE LYING.

  • forest

    Didn’t do this, didn’t do that

    What the hell did Obama Regime actually do?

    Besides sit and watch our people get killed and make up lies to cover themselves politically, did those scumbags do anything else?

  • Sasja

    forest

    Barry went to sleep so he would be all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed for his fun in Las Vegas the next day.

  • Patty
  • donh

    The decision to save the Ambassador’s life was above his pay grade.

  • Patty

    Defense Secretary Justifies Inaction in Benghazi Attack

    “There was always the chance that an attempt to rescue the Ambassador might make things worse,” Panetta added. “As it now stands, only four Americans were killed. If we had sent in troops there likely would’ve been more casualties on both sides. By declining to charge in we at least have no Libyan blood on our hands.”

    The secretary brushed off reports that those under attack were desperately pleading for help. “It’s to be expected that persons in their position would have a rather narrow perspective of the situation,” he said. “It’s hard to appreciate the bigger picture when you’re in fear for your life. Those of us with broader responsibilities must maintain a calmer demeanor and balance the costs and benefits of escalating the confrontation.”

    http://azconservative.org/2012/10/27/defense-secretary-justifies-inaction-in-benghazi-attack/

    not implementing a strategy on 9/11 of all days is not a strategy. THEY NEVER TRIED TO HELP…. PERIOD. AND ANY OTHER ADMINISTRATION WOULD ALL BE FIRED.

  • Patty

    Gallup: Obama’s Job Approval Drops 7 Points in 3 Days

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gallup-obamas-job-approval-drops-7-points-3-days

    AS IT SHOULD AND MORE DROPS TO COME.

  • Patty

    Operation Bengazi Accountablity-1 Million Calls Monday Oct 29

    http://connect.freedomworks.org/node/313166?source=tweet-event

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  • donh

    #16 The Cowardly Leon is really laying the PC rules of disengagement out for all to see. Ted Turner must be running the whole show.

    “By declining to charge in we at least have no Libyan blood on our hands”

    This is something to be congratulated ? This is exactly what has everybody outraged. 4 of ours dead and NO dead terrorists. The blood would not be on our hands. The blood of any dead Libyans is on Syria and Iran who planned this terrorist strike. Obama is destroying our military and putting the lives of every American civilian at risk .

  • MrGoodWench

    So far no one has offered any evidence that Obama made the order to protect our men on the ground in Benghazi the night of the attack.
    ++++++
    So this muslim traitor first WITHDREW security for Americans in Libya a few months before this tragedy,
    then
    he REFUSED to give the SECURITY BACK TO THEM when they begged for it ,
    then
    when they were attcked and needed help , he REFUSED TO PROVIDE that too.
    Da*n that Romney guy is messed up !

  • Oliver

    “balance the costs and benefits of escalating the confrontation”

    “bumps in the road”

    “not optimal”

    ARE YOU LISTENING ISRAEL?

  • Patty

    Obama has been stonewalling and his lack luster no leadership abilities are catching up to him.

    He can fire and hire all the people he wants, still doesn’t erase the fact that OBAMA’S #1 JOB was to protect and serve the American citizens and he DID NOT.

    Now, his job approval ratings are tanking and AMERICA IS WATCHING as a president implodes before our eyes.

    They could have done things differently but they kept putting their feet into their mouth over and over again.

    The damage cannot be undone and Obama can run but he can’t hide.

  • Patty

    When a father is speaking out about his dead son, PEOPLE LISTEN. His comments are going to be in Live Time tonight on Fox. Judge Jeanine.

    http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/10/27/father-of-ex-navy-seal-slain-in-libya-live-with-judge-jeanine/

  • Kate

    “Kate, they support him because they are just as horrid as he.”

    Sasja, I believe you are right.

  • Patty

    It took 4 Americans to die on 9/11 for a nation to come together and it did on 9/12/01.

    I can only hope and pray every American sends a message LOUD AND CLEAR ON NOV. 6.

    We will stand together. We are all sick and tired.

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  • bg

    ++

    ht Linda

    We Know Now Who Gave the Order
    Not to Protect the Consulate!!

    [According to this article on September 24th, 2012
    10:21 AM ET posted by CNN:
    A general’s warning about militants in Libya
    By Barbara Starr

    http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/24/a-generals-warning-about-militants-in-libya/

    Just three months ago, the four-star chief of the U.S. Africa Command warned of a growing threat from al Qaeda and other militant groups in Libya

    “There is a real concern in Libya. As Libya is coming out of the revolution and forming its new government, there very clearly are those who wish to undermine the formation of that government,” said Gen. Carter Ham in a speech to senior military and civilian officials from Africa, Europe and the U.S.

    “We see some worrying indicators that al Qaeda and others are seeking to establish a presence in Libya,” Ham warned. Ham often worked closely with the late Chris Stevens, the U.S. ambassador to Libya, killed in the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

    Ham has been trying to establish the initial stages of a military relationship with Libya, but the effort has been slowed by the presence and influence of armed militias, such as those suspected of being involved in the attack. Ham noted back in June the problem of bringing even more mainstream groups under the control of the central government.

    More: Intel chairman doubts Libya attack linked to video

    “Now how do you bring those disparate organizations under some degree of central government control? How do you use those organizations to the benefit of the people? How do you transform some of them into border police, into national police, into maritime police and other areas of government where they can continue to be valuable contributors to overall Libyan security?”

    As commander of U.S. military operations across Africa, Ham would be the senior U.S. officer in charge, if the president were to order a military strike against potential targets believed to be responsible for the attack. He is considered to be extremely knowledgeable about al Qaeda movements in Africa, as was Stevens.

    Ham has particularly made the case that al Qaeda in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb poses an increasing concern and that the group is operating unconstrained in a large portion of Mali and coordinating with other extremist elements across North Africa.

    According to reports: On September 10, General Ham was in Nevada.

    Discussing the role of the National Guard in the Middle East and Africa:]

    links and more @ link..

    ==

    =

  • l.barney

    as if that makes any difference? These four people are still dead! I guess if these victims were Muslim Americans it would be a different story!

  • donh

    “It’s to be expected that persons in their position would have a rather narrow perspective of the situation,” he said. “It’s hard to appreciate the bigger picture when you’re in fear for your life. Those of us with broader responsibilities must maintain a calmer demeanor and balance the costs and benefits of escalating the confrontation.”

    The same will be said to Israel when they come under WMD attack….We will have a broader responsibility to contain the conflict and let 6 million jews be exterminated rather than charge in and escalate the battlefield adding Americans and a few more million Muslims to the pile of dead corpses…. So when Netanyahu screams for red lines on Iran that is just a narrow perspective of the situation that we will calmly pander to for purposes of political posturing while we keep our eye on the bigger picture of staying in the good graces of Islam …and keep up our Dhimi tax payments.

  • bg

    ++

    correction re: #28 – page 2 October 27, 2012 at 6:59 pmbg

    ht Patty (@littlebytesnews) #72 – [age 3 October 27, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    ==

  • vamoose

    “There was always the chance that an attempt to rescue the Ambassador might make things worse,” Panetta added. “As it now stands, only four Americans were killed. If we had sent in troops there likely would’ve been more casualties on both sides. By declining to charge in we at least have no Libyan blood on our hands.”

    I believe Bing West also said that even if the situation on the ground was unclear the AC130 stationed in Italy should have been in the air while the intelligence was sorted out in case it was needed.

    Remember when US personnel were being evacuated from Libya in 2011 and the US chartered a ferry which couldn’t handle the rough seas. Meanwhile the British sent a warship and 8 planes to get their people out and some from other countries. This administration is both inept and corrupt. No to decide is to decide.

  • donh

    bg #28….So in sacking Ham to cover Obama cowardice we are removing a man from this theater of war especially qualified for the job, and replacing him with a commander from Afghanistan who specialized in the failed policy of mixing our men up with the local rehabilitated terrorist Muslim fighters who every now and then shoot us in the back.

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  • Pathetic. A bunch of mental children are the high ups in our government… “not me!”, “I am not responsible”, “It was not us”, finger pointing, denials and passing the buck. The men are still dead. Their families grieving and in the dark. The American public waiting for truth and justice. Who exactly is covering who’s butt… and why is that more important? Deep corruption…

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  • Oliver

    WARNING: THE AZCONSERVATIVE ARTICLE (linked by Patty in #16/p1) THAT I AND OTHERS HAVE QUOTED SAYS IN SMALL PRINT AT THE TOP

    “SATIRICAL SEMI-NEWS”

    Be careful when you quote and/or forward this article!

  • donh

    And Muslems just attempted to sack another US embassy in Indonesia…> http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/27/indonesia-reports-suspects-planned-attack-on-us-embassy/

    Why ? ….because the Cowardly Leon Panetta has just put down on paper for the word to see that the the US wants to avoid killing muslims at all cost…..Even if we are being fired on….We consider it OPTIMAL our men on site ALL be killed dead than give muslims a propaganda grievance in defending ourselves and piling up some caskets full of dead muslim terrorists.

  • Flintstone F.

    Just for context in this cluster F of lies and deceit:

    An embassy had no armed protection in a volatile city of a country in turmoil, while other countries pulled their people out due to increased violence. And after more than one attack, all near and/or on the anniversary of 9/11, after requests for security they denied, they watched in silence as the attacks which took the lives of four Americans continued for hours, ignoring calls for help.

    There should be no discussion about whether to send people in to save Americans when we still don’t have the answer as to why there wasn’t anybody there in the first place.

    I guess four Americans didn’t fit well into their imaginary world.

  • Catblaster

    This is that Nero fiddling while Rome burned thing isn’t it?

  • Oliver

    the bottom line is that Stevens et al shouldn’t have been in Libya in the first place. Red Cross, Britain etc had enough sense to pull out all their diplomatic staff.

    Which begs the question: why was he there?

    Gun-running to opposition forces is about the only thing that makes sense. Unfortunately, it seems the guns went to Al Qaeda.

    ClusterF**k is the understatement of the decade.

  • suzy000

    We had 2 drones one assuredly armed and an AC-130. None were deployed for defense….only to monitor. This President is not fit to be Commander in Chief when he lets Americans die who are trying to serve their country. This is disgusting and heartbreaking….it is so so wrong!

  • Swifty

    Just like everyone else in this country, our fellow citizens in service of their country were on their own. Anyone would be a fool to serve with the non-existent backing of this president.

  • wtd

    So, if the

    “White House Says It Did Not Deny Requests for Help in Benghazi – But Did Not Issue Orders to Save US Security Officials Either”

    then were the now deceased SEALs NOT told to stand down?

    Any credibility this administration had is rapidly evaporating . . .just like Obama’s poll stats.

  • BridgetGB

    What kind of a crap BS lie is this coming out of this scandal & corruption plagued criminal regime? Since day one Obama has ignored the Constitution, paid off his friends and pissed off this nation’s allies while singlehandedly destroying the economy. I think you have to be brain dead to vote for this narcissistic thug.

  • Texas_Treeroach

    Turkey tried to broker a deal between the Obama Administration and the Libyan Ansar al-Sharia terrorists to supply weapons to the Syrian rebels. Russian General Nikolai Makarov has declared (BBC, today) that weapons used against us in the Benghazi attack are showing up now in Syria. It’s beginning to look like Obama tried to cover up all of this with American bodies and blood.

  • SoLongSong

    O/T, Des Moines Register endorses Republican Presidential Candidate for First Time since 1972!!!

    http://www.therightscoop.com/boom-des-moines-register-endorses-romney-first-time-endorsing-gop-since-1972/

  • Patty

    Benghazi: No Other Explanation Fits

    On October 4 in Canada Free Press, I wrote a column entitled Was Ambassador Stevens’ Death a Hit?, so suspicious did I find the circumstances surrounding the attack on the US embassy in Benghazi, Libya at that time. On October 25, I followed up with Obama’s Feet of Clay, in which I discussed the likelihood that President Barack Obama failed to react to the attack despite real-time knowledge of developments in Benghazi because he wished to obscure or bury evidence of the administration’s gun running activities to Libyan and Syrian rebels.

    The reason for Obama’s desire to do so, in this scenario, would be twofold. One, because weapons were not only being provided to Libyan and Syrian rebels, but were in fact being provided to jihadists across the Middle East with whom Obama sympathizes, but who are enemies of the US. Two, because Ambassador Christopher Stevens himself may have become a liability for reasons still uncertain (although my first column outlines one possibility). The fact that Stevens’ mission, and that of other US operatives in Libya was a clandestine one has been established; this is certainly a likely reason for Obama to want a lid kept on it. If revealed, obviously this would substantially threaten his re-election chances.

    As I indicated early on, not only did I see Obama’s pre-September 11 actions as being executed in order to cultivate plausible deniability on his part, but I suspected even then that he might have employed rebels or jihadis to eliminate Stevens. It does bear mentioning that Obama’s cavalier dismissal of intelligence briefings leading up to Sept. 11, 2012 was widely reported prior to that date.

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50626

  • Patty

    Indeed, the administration’s grotesquely feeble and ongoing contention that the unrest across the Middle East (including in Libya and Egypt) was caused by an anti-Muhammad video became less and less believable as time wore on, and more information about that tragic night became unavailable.

    As Fox News reported on October 26, we now know that CIA operatives in Benghazi on September 11 were thrice denied permission by the administration to intercede and attempt to save Ambassador Stevens and other personnel. We also know that there was a US intelligence drone in the air over the consulate during at least part of the seven-hour siege, and that Washington had the ability to monitor events on the ground in Benghazi in real-time.
    Did President Obama, Hillary Clinton and other White House and State Department staff literally watch our people die over there

    Which begs the question: Did President Obama, Hillary Clinton and other White House and State Department staff literally watch our people die over there, while they did nothing?[……………………………..]

    READ MORE HERE: http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50626

  • Patty

    If it gets out and O and H watched our people die, they will both go on trial and serve time.

  • lets see it wasn’t the white house that said no. it wasn’t the state department. it wasn’t the dept of defense. it wasn’t the cia. well that leaves taa daaa bush.

  • Patty

    [………………]Given the evidence, what other reason could there be?

    I make this inference from a wealth of knowledge of Barack Obama as a person and a politician, from years of studying him, his methods and motives, and from individuals who know the man. I have stated quite plainly that I believe he is a sociopath and malignant narcissist, an opinion that has been publicly shared by credentialed professionals in the field of psychology. It is more than likely that Obama has engaged in such action before, and on more than one occasion.

    It is for this reason and numerous others that the imperative to remove him from office exists, and why he will continue to be a danger to the American people – and perhaps millions of others – until he no longer occupies the office of President of the United States.

    At least we now know what Obama does when he gets that 3AM phone call referenced during the 2008 campaign. He waits until everyone’s dead, then goes back to bed.

    I know that knowledge is small consolation.

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50626

  • lizzy84

    At the most critical moment of Command, oBama voted “Present.” He had the power and resources at his fingertips to respond and did exactly NOTHING. Then he grabbed a nap to prepare for fundraising and partying in his Vegas campaign spot. For the first time in my adult life I believe this pResident and his entire administration should be stripped of their property, name and titles, tried for high treason and imprisoned for life.That’s not hyperbole, that’s justice.

  • Patty

    #52 October 27, 2012 at 8:41 pm
    tommy mc donnell commented:

    I am waiting for more whistle blowers. Because without them, there is no transparency in Obama house.

  • Leatherhelmet

    OT:

    Incredibly, the ultra-liberal Des Moines Register endorsed Mitt Romney.

  • Oliver

    #47 Texas: let me get this straight.

    US embassy brokered guns to Syrian rebels, and the weapons were then used against the US embassy before making their way into the hands of the Syrian rebels – yes?

    Good grief.

  • Patty

    #54 October 27, 2012 at 8:42 pm
    lizzy84 commented:

    At the most critical moment of Command, oBama voted “Present.” He had the power and resources at his fingertips to respond and did exactly NOTHING. Then he grabbed a nap to prepare for fundraising and partying in his Vegas campaign spot. For the first time in my adult life I believe this pResident and his entire administration should be stripped of their property, name and titles, tried for high treason and imprisoned for life.That’s not hyperbole, that’s justice.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    My intuition has been correct about Obama. My perception of him has been right all along.

    I go back to Rev. Wright and Obama and Family sitting in that “church” for 20 years.

    My hat goes off to all the courageous men and women in our Military. Those who died deserve more. They deserve honor and metals for what they did. But this president is a complete embarrassment and needs to be tried immediately for Treason.

  • Patty
  • Patty

    #59

    Sen. Marco Rubio’s 12-year-old daughter Amanda was injured in a motor vehicle accident earlier Saturday in Miami, his office said.

    “She was airlifted to Miami Children’s hospital. She is in stable condition,” his office said in a statement. “Sen. Rubio was notified of the accident after coming off stage while campaigning with Governor Romney in Kissimmee, Florida. He is enroute to Miami.”

    Detail about the accident — including what kind of motor vehicle was involved — was not available Saturday evening. “Governor Romney spoke with Senator Rubio and expressed his concern and hope for Amanda Rubio’s quick recovery,” said campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul.

    Rubio and his wife, Jeanette, have three other children: Daniella, Anthony, and Dominic.

    Yahoo News reports that Rubio was on Romney’s bus headed to the final event in Land O’Lakes and around 6:45 p.m., Romney’s motorcade abruptly pulled off Interstate 4, and Rubio was seen exiting Romney’s campaign bus.

    “A moment later, Rubio hopped over a highway barricade, where a Florida Highway Patrol car waited. After standing outside the car for a few minutes, Rubio jumped into the patrol car, which sped away with its lights flashing,” Yahoo reported.

  • Oliver

    Pat Caddell (sp?) on Fox a few minutes ago — major rant against the corrupt media and a president who didn’t care enough to save his people.

    Jeanine’s military guests were not happy either! Came as close to calling Obama’s actions “criminal” as you can come.

  • donh

    #57 There are now reports to as many as 150 men involved in the attack. They had set up road blocks to prevent escape by vehicle …. men posted along the road for miles with machine guns. These were Syrian/Iran special operational forces attacking our gun running command and control center for arming Syrian rebels. They had to have spies deep within our own military to know this facility so well and plot the attack. They even seem to have a sympathizer right within our top real time command sabatoging our abilities to give orders to defend our positions. Obama ? Hillary ? Huma Abedin ? Leon Panetta ? are we absolutely positive Leon Panetta is an Italian Catholic and not some fake cover ? Can we get a DNA test ? He looks a lot like my Pakistani muslim math professor in college.

  • GreenDroll

    As far as I know, Ambassador Stevens was the first openly gay man to serve in such a position. Does this make not defending him a hate crime?

  • jenny

    They either didn’t get them or ignored them and did nothing. Either way they were negligent and responsible; gross negligence, dereliction of duty and moral turpitude. They can deny and ignore our questions as long as they like. Benghazi is not going away.

  • valerie

    FOX just aired a short but moving tribute and thank-you to Mr. Woods. This was obviously a response to the sorrow and justified anger of Charles Woods, the father of murdered Benghazi hero Tyrone Woods.

    That was well done. My condolences to Mr. Woods for the death of his son, and a promise that the US government will answer his question, whether they want to, or not. The rest of us cannot give back his life, but we can surely require our government to say how and why he died.

    As for the New York Times and other corrupt “news” outlets — this is not a story that can or should be spiked.

  • myohmy

    That impostor living in the WH is lying through his teeth. Time for americans to wake up and vote OUT this fraud and charged him with treason.

  • Ok, I’ve been hearing this from different sources all day. If this can be proven accurate, Obama is done.

    Has anyone anything more on this??

    http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/muslim-brotherhood-behind-benghazi-attack-with-link-to-obama/question-3273681/

  • myohmy

    Don’t believe the media anymore. They don’t work for americans to report the truth but just another propaganda agents of the DNC.

  • It’s all very simple. Why would someone who despises this country lift a finger to defend it? I have never despised another person like I do Obama.

  • Nancy Vehr

    I have pondered over this since it occured and I am shocked and utterly disappointed that our president is a munipulative, lying leader of the greatest country in the world. I don’t understand how anybody could vote for him now that his true self has been exposed.
    If my son had died over there, you can bet that I would live my life to expose what happened and have those responsible for not taking action to save our American lives be punished for sirring by and doing nothing. Shame on these people and those that are protecting them.

  • donh

    MSM media will not cover stories like Benghazi because they are afraid they day they expose the real Obama is the day they come home from work and find their children in a pool of blood.

  • joyo

    The folks at the NYT must really hate Americans. Our Ambassador and three other Americans Died and the NYT is not covering the story. Yet, during the Iraqi War, they covered the Iraqi prison story — on the top half of the front page over 38 times and NO ONE DIED THERE. Of course, a Democrat was not the President then. They apparently think it is more important to cover for Obama than cover the Benghazi terrorists’ killings.

  • bg

    ++

    Oliver #38 October 27, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    did you click on any of the links??

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  • Linda

    U.S. Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta explained that the U.S. military commander for Africa, General Carter Ham, the chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, and himself all decided against any intervention to rescue those besieged because “we lacked a clear picture of what was happening.”
    —————————————————————————————————————-

    Neither did Tyrone Woods or Glen Doherty but they still went in to HELP…and Thanks to God they were able to rescue 30 others!

    You don’t even try and take the blame by yourself (for Obama that is)…you have to drag others with you!

    Mr Panetta you don’t have the right to wear that uniform…sir!

  • bg

    ++

    iow:

    THE BUCK WILL NEVER STOP AT I, ME, MY, ETC..

    ~ Barry Dunham Soetoro Barack Hussein Obama

    ==

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  • BABY GLOCK

    Benghazi–NOT A “REPUBLICAN” vs “DEMOCRAT” issue:

    Preserving the lives of our staffers, appointed envoy, and others is EVERYONE’S CONCERN
    The White House being properly informed as to all the world is EVERYONE’S CONCERN
    Honest/timely information about “what happened, how, and when” is EVERYONE’S CONCERN
    Absence of deception; freedom from false narratives; etc. is EVERYONE’S CONCERN
    Refraining from MANIPULATING the truth is EVERYONE’S CONCERN

    PRESERVING “ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL” IS EVERYONE’S CONCERN.

    WE, all parties, all citizens, have been ill served by OVOMIT’S BENGHAZI ACTS/OMISSIONS: ‘

    “Out sourcing” our security in totally inadequate fashion
    Express Orders forbidding armed defense
    Collaboration with ENEMY NATIONALS to “secure” our embassy
    Warnings of peril unheeded
    Requests for assistance ignored
    “REAL TIME” OBSERVATION OF THE ATTACK
    Refusal to activate “READY, WILLING, AND ABLE” RESCUE FORCES
    TOTAL MEDIA DECEPTIONS FROM THE START
    Pointing of fingers at innocent parties
    Playing the “act of war” as a “legitimate response to an ‘evil’ film” [a total lie]
    CONSTANT “HIDING THE BALL”; FALSE REPORTS; AND “HOT POTATOE” BLAME SHIFTING

    BENGHAZI IS A *NATIONAL*, BI-PARTISAN, DISGRACE–worthy of impeachment and more

  • lizzy84

    Where is HONOR?
    Petraeus has a solemn obligation to the American people, not to the White House.
    Ty Woods was his employee.. a CIA employee…he is dead.
    Petraeus has a duty to the truth.. no parsing of words, straight talk.. election or no election. We know no one else in this administration has any honor, has Petraeus decided to join them?

  • Sasja

    I’m afraid Patraeus decided to join them the second he took the gig at the CIA. I hope I’m wrong.

  • UpChuck.Liberals

    The Won can not do any wrong, so please go away….now. Like Barry actually gives a rats butt about anybody but himself. I’m sure that Valerie is stroking his little head as we type telling him he’s a good little boy.

  • Oliver

    BG – yes, I clicked on the links, but the “satirical semi-news” subhead is still a concern!

    ALSO – Military experts on Fox tonight asked a pertinent question: would Obama have given the go ahead if one of his daughters was under attack?

    ALSO – the link to the video and article about the failed kidnapping theory. Very plausible! I do wish people who post those things tho’ would name their “source inside the white house”. This theory really makes a lot of sense now in light of new info.

    Here’s the video link if anyone missed it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR_xo1uBTk8&feature=youtu.be

  • bg

    ++

    donh #33 October 27, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    sounds about right to me, i mean it has been Obama’s policy,
    that, and apologizing for defending ourselves t in an attempt
    to help them save themselves..

    oh, did i ever mention Obama’s being hell bent on a
    REVOLUTION by any and all mean necessary?? 😡

    please scroll threads for more, thank you..

    ==

  • Robert

    Let’s see if they can parse their way out of this question;

    Were any requests for help received at the White House?

  • Oddly, what ties the whole kidnapping theory together, for me, is this.

    Remember the look Obama got on his face during the second debate when it looked like Romney was going to start to hammer it home? If not, go back and look at a picture of it and tell me if you don’t agree.

    The look on Obama’s face was not one of anger but of terror. The look on his face tells me that he was petrified that Romney knew something more than he had previously revealed and that he was about to drop it right on Obama’s head.

    For me that ties all this together, he was terrified someone had found him out and was about to out him to the whole nation.

  • bg

    ++

    Oliver #81 October 27, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    don’t know where the heck you’re seeing that, i don’t..

    and/but surly this link is not satire, as are
    none of the others listed within the article..

    ==

  • Patty

    #61 October 27, 2012 at 8:52 pm
    Oliver commented:

    Pat Caddell (sp?) on Fox a few minutes ago — major rant against the corrupt media and a president who didn’t care enough to save his people.

    Jeanine’s military guests were not happy either! Came as close to calling Obama’s actions “criminal” as you can come.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    That was the best.

  • Robert

    1. I am discounting the kidnapping theory. It’s just too stupid even for this bunch.

    2. Petraeus cannot reveal classified information. That’s just the way that goes. If the gun-running and large-scale attack theory is correct, then for Petraeus to come out with information would place him at probable outcome of prison time, should Obama win re-election.

  • Robert, you must admit that the kidnapping theory would be the glue that could hold a whole bunch of other things we have seen together.

    I’m sorry but that panicked look on Obama’s face at the second debate says volumes to me.

  • Patty

    MUST, MUST SEE, WITH TRANSCRIPT: Military Officer With Inside Info Puts Blame On Obama For Denying Benghazi Rescue, ‘Stand Down’ Orders
    {………………………}

    CALLER: Well, there’s three networks, Rush. The e-mails that have been released are unclassified e-mails. On the top secret side, a flash traffic message from the embassy Tripoli to the White House Situation Room, it’s like an IM. I mean, it’s immediately responded to. You have to acknowledge receipt of it. Okay? So it’s immediate. It gets to the person, the watch officer sitting there, boom, flashes on his screen, he has to acknowledge receipt. And then there’s a protocol for who he then sends it to. He physically turns to someone, the senior guy on watch, “This is a critical element of information. POTUS needs to hear this,” and that’s what would have happened.

    So no one in the White House can deny that — well, they can deny it, but the fact is the protocol says someone marched their happy little ass up to the senior guy standing next to POTUS and said, “Sir, ambassador in Libya is in peril.” And if he was missing, that is even a higher precedence. And then the chain would have also gone out automatically to the geographic combatant commander, AFRICOM, and he would have then turned to his special operations commander and said, “I want the In-Extremis Force, you know, strip ready in five minutes.” And evidently they were strip ready in Sigonella and they would have the assets to penetrate the airspace, you know, an MC-130 papa, which is a C-130 specially equipped with electronic countermeasures. They didn’t need permission to enter Libyan airspace, okay? {…………………………}

    http://patdollard.com/2012/10/must-must-read-lt-colonel-with-inside-protocols-info-puts-blame-on-obama-for-denying-benghazi-rescue-stand-down-orders/

  • Patty

    Here is another attack.

    Indonesia reports suspects planned attack on US Embassy

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/27/indonesia-reports-suspects-planned-attack-on-us-embassy/#ixzz2AYqersWm

  • beasn

    He said he didn’t deny anything because technically, he said ‘stand down’.

  • Sandy

    So Mr. President when you received word that the Embassy in Benghazi and that the Ambassador was in grave danger exactly what orders did you give?

  • lizzy84

    related….http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/27/3069715/al-qaida-leader-urges-kidnapping.html

    CAIRO — The leader of al-Qaida has urged Muslims to kidnap Westerners to exchange for imprisoned jihadists, including a blind cleric serving a life sentence in the United States for a 1993 plot to blow up New York City landmarks.

    In an undated two-hour videotape posted this week on militant forums, the Egyptian-born jihadist Ayman al-Zawahri also urged support for Syria’s uprising and called for the implementation of Islamic Shariah law in Egypt.

    He said that abducting nationals of “countries waging wars on Muslims” is the only way to free “our captives, and Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman,” the Egyptian cleric.

    “This is the only language which they understand,” said al-Zawahri, appearing in his customary white turban and robe. “We will keep on seizing more … until we free our captives.”

  • bg

    ++

    Oliver #81 October 27, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    well, yes, that scenario has been bantered about from the get go, and
    it makes sense because we know Hillary is connected to the Fed Snitch
    filmmaker, as well as Egypt’s Mursi, not to mention Obama positioning
    well known Muslim Brotherhood members throughout the government,
    and at least 50 more things no one else has ever heard of outside truth
    seeker blogs, in particular, informative posts by many posters..

    ==

  • Sandy

    beasn — Isn’t stand down an order? Doesn’t it mean ignore the problem?

  • Sandy

    This is not the same as voting Present. Stand down is an order or the General would not have been fired for ignoring it.

  • bg

    ++

    Oliver #81 October 27, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    just a sample:

    September 11th 2012

    The 1st anniversary of 911 after an MB president gets elected and we
    have Zawahry’s brother leading a violent protest on the US embassy

    Islamists would burn down the US Embassy “with everyone in it”

    ==

  • Sasja
  • Sandy

    The White House is beginning to give information in dribs and drabs. Always a big mistake. Just come out Mr. P and tell the truth to the American people, take responsibility for these lives lost. More likely there will be a drone attack and we will be told that the suspects in this terror attack are all dead.

  • Oliver

    bg #97 – the author:
    John Semmens: Semi-News — A Satirical Look at Recent News

  • bg

    ++

    Oliver #100 October 27, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    got a link to anything i posted connected
    to that link that is satire?? thank you..

    ==

  • Midwestengr

    Hopefully with any luck, the only orders this potus will be giving in his next job will be to hold the pickles on his customers sandwich. What a DISGRACE!

  • dwdude

    well, doesn’t this apply a flamethrower to the cooking goose? obama lawyer double speak isn’t going to hold up this time. a man is demanding answers for the death of his son and has not yet been given those answers…try this idiot president in the media spotlight he so loves…we don’t need an investigation, we just need reasonable doubt in the court of public opinion. the election will do the rest. once he is out of office, let the games begin…

  • bg
  • bg
  • has anybody heard one word from a democratic member of congress? or anybody in congress.

  • Oliver

    #87 Robert

    Until today, I also thought the kidnapping / swap theory was “tin hat” territory.

    But today, it occurred to me: WHY WOULD OBAMA NOT GIVE THE RESCUE ORDER and tell the guys on the ground to stand down? Surely he knew a dead ambassador would not help his election chances? So whatever he’s hiding is politically WORSE (in his mind!) than a dead ambassador.

    And then the kidnap theory started to make sense.

  • bg

    ++

    Oliver #61 October 27, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    ooh, don’t have cable news, but
    thankfully found the following..

    Pat Caddell: Media Have Become An ‘Enemy Of The American People’

    ==

  • Oliver

    BG#101 – huh? I think the satire was in the article itself, and I know I quoted a line from that article … and later realized it may not have been an actual quote from the general.

    Your linking-ability leaves me in the dust sometimes – LOL!

  • Oliver

    BG – this is the “satire” article (and no, it looks like you didn’t link to it directly):

    http://azconservative.org/2012/10/27/defense-secretary-justifies-inaction-in-benghazi-attack/

  • Robert

    #107 Oliver

    Perhaps Obama would not give a rescue order if he thought there was a large-scale assault on a significant covert operation that was transferring weapons to so-called “rebel” groups in Syria.

  • bg
  • Robert

    “Your linking-ability leaves me in the dust sometimes – LOL!”

    bg can link to links about links that have links in them.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    “Neither the president nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi,” National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told Yahoo News by email.

    Weasel words.

  • Oliver

    #111 – Robert
    that’s possible I guess, but Obama never does anything that doesn’t have a political angle. Your explanation only makes sense if I could see how it would make Obama win votes.

    Rescuing a “kidnapped” ambassador on the hand would ASSURE an election win. Remember what a hero the Cdn ambassador was in the Iran crisis when he hid the Americans? And let’s face it, YOU KNOW the Chicago thugs had an October surprise up their sleeves. This may have been it, but Ty Woods & the other Seal screwed up the plan.

    Which makes them even bigger heroes in my mind if it’s true.

  • Oliver

    #115 – typo: … on the OTHER HAND … (not: on the hand)

  • bg

    ++

    Oliver #110 October 27, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    “whew”.. 😀

    Robert #113 October 27, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    i try to give as much info as possible in order to make the connections
    clear, that’s not easy considering half of them have disappeared and
    GP’s ever changing format tossed a monkey wrench onto the works..
    meantime, i sometimes wonder if i’ll last until election day (been saying
    that for a few years now, i think it’s the only thing that comes close to
    making a liar out of me.. “whew” again.. :lol:)

    ==

  • Robert

    Another question hard to evade;

    “Did the White House refrain from giving authorization to deploy forces?”

  • valerie

    Not really OT:

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gallup-obamas-job-approval-drops-7-points-3-days

    “In the most precipitous decline it has seen in more than a year, President Barack Obama’s job approval rating has dropped 7 points in three days, according to Gallup.”

    “In the three-day period ending on Oct. 23, says Gallup, 53 percent said they approved of the job Obama was doing and 42 percent said they did not.”

    “On Oct. 24, that dropped to 51 percent who said they approved and 44 percent who said they do not.”

    “On Oct. 25, it dropped again to 48 percent who said they approved and 47 percent who said they do not.”

    “On Oct. 26, it dropped yet again to 46 percent who said they approved and 49 percent who said they did not.”

  • Oliver

    #118 Robert
    Exactly. You know how Axelrod likes to twist words, and come up with crap like “it’s not an Apology Tour if you don’t use the word ‘sorry'”??

    “did not DENY” requests for help does NOT mean
    – did not approve
    – did not ignore
    – did not refrain
    and any other host of things the word “deny” doesn’t mean!

  • Oliver

    Last one I promise.

    Another question that needs to be answered: Why would anyone in their right mind be meeting with the Egyptian diplomat in an unsecure location on Sept 11th?

    My guess: They KNEW there would be protests (they probably planted the damn youtube video to make sure!), so the kidnapping would take place in the haze of confusion, and nobody would be able to determine what was actually going down. AND, Obama wanted to hand over the Blind Sheik — to make points with Morsi, keep Al Qaeda quiet until the election was over, etc etc etc. Think about it. It was a near perfect plan — until the 2 Navy Seals decided to disobey the order to stand down.

  • Obama called on SEALS to kill Bin Laden, they did.

    SEALS called on Obama to help in Benghazi, he didn’t….

    …so what makes you think he will help YOU ?

    Obama likes to brag about how HE personally got and killed Osama bin Laden, even though the Navy Seals are the ones who actually killed the terrorist piece of crap. Obama likes to take credit for killing terrorists with drone attacks too.

    Yet, he didn’t lift a finger to help the Navy Seals who were under attack by Muslim terrorists during the 9/11-12/2012 Benghazi terrorist attack. Maybe Obama should start a new slogan:

    ‘I killed bin laden and 4 innocent Americans.’

    Obama Biden 2012…./sarc>

  • Michael Scholtz

    You call national news media to ask why they don’t ask questions about Benghazi, they either hang up on you or send your to voice mail. Hard hitting journalists!

  • valerie

    Oh, and if you’re part of the dishonest media, you have no idea why that Gallup poll might have changed,

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/27/the-gallup-mystery-and-other-matters.html

    because nothing of note has happened.

    Stick your fingers in your ears, Michael Tomasky, say “La, la, la, I can’t hear you” all you want, but some people really do give a damn about the people who stand in harm’s way for us, and they will find out what happened.

  • #121 Oliver, and the icing on the cake would be if the Muslim Brotherhood planned to double cross Obama all along and used him to unwittingly set up the Ambassador for assassination. He can’t admit it was all a scam to give him a way to trade the Blind Sheik and he got double crossed, so now he has to explain how completely inept and callous he was to do nothing and let them be slaughtered. He is in a box.

  • jorgen

    ‘I killed bin laden and 4 innocent Americans.’

    You mean: “I tried for a long time to prevent the unfortunate killing of Osama and sacrificed four expendable Americans for the sake of my political future.”

  • Befuddled

    The buck stop at Valerie Jarrett.

    What’s a couple of dead Americans and an ambassador compared to a dinner invite from our new peace partners, al Quaeda.Boys will be boys.

  • RealMc

    Treason looks like THIS.

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  • Obama’s actions have ONE purpose, to “validate to islamists” that he is on their side, and has their back!! He cares nothing about American values, culture, or history!!

  • Nella

    Why do you keep asking who gave the order to stand down? President Obama, in an effort to sound authoritative, declared in the townhall meeting that he gave 3 directives to his National Security Team. In other words, he was fully advised of the crisis, he was issuing the orders, he was in charge. When Obama tried to sound presidential at the debate, he stated to the world,
    “I was in charge, I AM RESPONSIBLE.” That’s what it means.

  • georgiaspur

    Those orders will be under his birth certificate, his college transcripts, and all of his other documents that we will never see but be asked to take his word for it.