Unreal… Democrats Banish “God” From Party Platform

Democrats banish God from platform.

Unreal… Don’t look now but Democrats just dropped God from their party platform.
CBN reported:

Guess what? God’s name has been removed from the Democratic National Committee platform.

This is the paragraph that was in the 2008 platform:

“We need a government that stands up for the hopes, values, and interests of working people, and gives everyone willing to work hard the chance to make the most of their God-given potential.”

Now the words “God-given” have been removed. The paragraph has been restructured to say this:

“We gather to reclaim the basic bargain that built the largest middle class and the most prosperous nation on Earth – the simple principle that in America, hard work should pay off, responsibility should be rewarded, and each one of us should be able to go as far as our talent and drive take us.”

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  • Frankly I’m amazed it was even proposed in the first place.

  • Ella

    What else is new? I am not shocked, this was to be EXPECTED. They can drop God’s name at their own peril as far as I am concerned.

  • bg


    ROTF 😆 MBO!!


  • Ragspierre

    They pretty much drop-kicked Israel, too.

    Oh, and Dizzy Wassername-Schultz has been called out for telling a bald-faced lie by the Israeli Ambassador.

    Not a pretty day for Deemocrats of religious persuasion. They are finding the tent shrinking…

  • Brandon In Baton Rouge

    They also cut and trimmed mentions related to Israel, as noted on other sites, while DWS is out there claiming that the Israeli ambassador told them a Romney administration would be a disaster for them.

  • Ghost

    God Will Not be Mocked

  • bg



    [“At a press conference on December 1… the possible Presidential contender said, ‘…the network that Saddleback has helped to create has as much reach as any institutional force in our culture and has probably a wider reach around the world than just about anything that’s going on right now…. I hope one of the things that comes out of this conference that Pastor Rick has emphasized again and again, is no single branch of our society is going do this alone. If government thinks they can do it by themselves they’re wrong. Churches have to recognize that they’ve got to be partners with the government. Business has an enormous role….]

    “I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.”

    ‘We are God’s partners in matters of life and death’

    ‘my individual salvation is not gonna come about
    without a collective salvation for the country’ ….

    “Today, the responsibility, which used to be laid at
    the door of God, is fastened on the shoulders of man.”

    [click on connecting links,and scroll threads for more]


  • Old One

    No surprise. Marxism is a doctrine loudly proclaiming atheism and bent on destroying all religious . Any secular thought other than those of a failed spoiled trust fund philosopher founder Marx who was truly a depraved narcissist like his admirer B Hussein “incomplete” Ovomit. BothMarx & Ovomit are/were the product of a completely depraved demented psyche.

  • Valerie

    There’s more change to this than the deletion of the reference to God.

    “…in America, hard work should pay off, responsibility should be rewarded, and each one of us should be able to go as far as our talent and drive take us.”

    Who pays? Who rewards? Who ensures the result? This is substantively different from “gives everyone willing to work hard the chance to make the most of…”

    The older platform was about self-determination. The new one is about entitlement.

  • Gloria Gilson

    UNREAL? Why do you call this unreal?

    The Democrats have inverted utterly the Founders’ entire thesis which is, God first; G_d created man (endowing him/her with inalienable right) and for that reason man ought rightly to worship G_d; government is instituted to protect the G_d-given rights.

    In the Democrat scheme, which faithfully follows the scheme of ever collectivist ever to have lived and ruled, the State is first and foremost; man is to serve the State and only the State; there is NO G_d other than the State.

  • Redwine

    Why is this “unreal”? I call it “expected”.

  • Sasja

    What else would you expect of those who worship at the altar of Satan? This convention is being attended by those who are in the tank for Bammy and his master, Satan. If some of you still do not recognize pure evil, you will see it displayed this week so take a good look.

  • Adirondack Patriot

    They kpt “God” in their platform.

    They just spell it O-B-A-M-A.

    He’s their god.

  • Ripped

    As if God ever was part of those heathens platform.

  • ClinkinKY
  • political_proxy

    “It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains.”

    -Patrick Henry

  • Remco Kimber


    Dead on,

  • Ace

    He doesn’t allow sodomy, so He’s outta there!

  • bg


    re: #7 September 4, 2012 at 2:14 pm bg

    Obama et al doctrine: (#31)

    [The 12 Elders (#8)

    The Elders were founded in 2007 under the initiative of Nelson Mandela.
    He and eleven other “global leaders” constitute the visible heads of the
    group. Among the 12 are various heads of international abortion and
    homosexuality groups as well as promoters of a new universal religion
    through groups with varying goals, such as Planetary Ethics, Earth
    Charter, and the Alliance of Civilizations.]

    NO God

    NO Country

    NO Freedom

    Proposed UN Environmental Constitution For The World Would
    Establish An Incredibly Repressive System Of Global Governance

    [Most people have no idea that the United Nations has been drafting an environmental constitution for the world that is intended to supersede all existing national laws. This document has a working title of “Draft International Covenant on Environment and Development” and you can read the entire thing right here. Work on this proposed world environmental constitution has been going on since 1995, and the fourth edition was issued to UN member states on September 22nd, 2010. This document is intended to become a permanent binding treaty and it would establish an incredibly repressive system of global governance. This “covenant”, as it is being called, claims authority over the entire global environment and everything that affects it. Considering the fact that everything that we do affects the environment in some way, that would mean that this document would become the highest form of law for all human activity. This proposed UN environmental constitution for the world is incredibly detailed. The U.S. Constitution only has 7 articles, but the UN document has 79 articles. If the U.S. eventually ratifies this treaty, any national, state or local laws that conflict with this covenant will be null and void. This is potentially one of the greatest threats to our national sovereignty that we have ever seen and we need to warn the American people about it.

    Essentially what this proposed environmental covenant does is it takes
    the sustainable development principles underlying Agenda 21 and turns
    them into global constitutional law.

    more here (#16) & here (#15), in conecting links and threads..


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  • Janie’s not a one note

    All the better, however, if “God” was followed by “damn”, then it fits their agenda.
    I fully expect words like sex, condom, abortion, gay/gay rights, sodomy, lesbian, orgy, vagina, erection, etc to be used…you know, those everyday words that liberals use, that should always be disseminated in a public event!

  • what?

    It makes sense, god does not exist.

  • bg


    Secrets of Communism (IslaMarxism (#90) by any other name)

    Death by Government (Communism by any other name)

    [But communists could not be wrong. After all, their knowledge was scientific, based on historical materialism, an understanding of the dialectical process in nature and human society, and a materialist (and thus realistic) view of nature. Marx has shown empirically where society has been and why, and he and his interpreters proved that it was destined for a communist end. No one could prevent this, but only stand in the way and delay it at the cost of more human misery. Those who disagreed with this world view and even with some of the proper interpretations of Marx and Lenin were, without a scintilla of doubt, wrong. After all, did not Marx or Lenin or Stalin or Mao say that. . . . In other words, communism was like a fanatical religion. It had its revealed text and chief interpreters. It had its priests and their ritualistic prose with all the answers. It had a heaven, and the proper behavior to reach it. It had its appeal to faith. And it had its crusade against nonbelievers.

    What made this secular religion so utterly lethal was its seizure of all the state’s instrument of force and coercion and their immediate use to destroy or control all independent sources of power, such as the church, the professions, private businesses, schools, and, of course, the family.]

    more (#14/17/19/21/22/23)


  • Valerie

    #22 September 4, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    what? commented:

    Even an atheist, however, can recognize the utility of positing a God. Men owe moral duties to God that are both above and distinct from the duties they owe the government, which is an agreement among men.

    The existence of God separates the concepts of “moral authority or conscience” from “government”: those are two concepts that should never be confused. Investing a government with moral authority leads to kings, with their erratic judgment in small societies, and fascism, complete with the slaughter of the innocents, in larger ones.

  • This is what we expect from a bunch socialists, who believe your rights come from big government not by God.

  • dwd

    “We gather to reclaim the basic bargain that built the largest middle class and the most prosperous nation on Earth – the simple principle that in America, hard work should pay off, responsibility should be rewarded, and each one of us should be able to go as far as our talent and drive take us.”

    Unemployment checks are the fastest way to create jobs
    At some point you’ve made enough money.
    What’s that? You’re underwater on your mortgage? Let’s just forgive some of that debt for you!

    Sure sounds like “hard work” and “responsibility”, doesn’t it?!?!

  • Radegunda

    They could have changed it to “Allah.” Problem solved.

  • dwd


    Hey students, take out all the loans you want, go to as expensive a college as you want to. Then when you graduate if you go into public service and pay the bare minimum on your loans for a few years, the balance of your loans will just be forgiven. It’s like using free money to grow government!

  • dwd

    #13 September 4, 2012 at 2:21 pm
    Adirondack Patriot commented:
    They kpt “God” in their platform.
    They just spell it O-B-A-M-A.
    He’s their god.


    You’re not far off: http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/11/obamas-interview-with-cathleen.html

    “Obama’s Fascinating Interview with Cathleen Falsani”

    Do you believe in sin?
    What is sin?
    Being out of alignment with my values.


    According to Obama himself, to sin is to oppose Obama’s values.

  • Patty

    Obama manipulated the America people. I would continue on about Obama, but does anyone care really anymore about him. Seriously, those who voted for him aren’t doing well. If so, he would have a huge audience that wasn’t bussed in from Churches and from SEIU. Who I do believe are financing transportation.

    Excuses and blame and lies, God will forgive, He is a just God. But for America the heart and soul that has love for God and In God We Trust, God Bless America, we know what is happening and we will come out in masses because WE ARE AMERICA.

  • Texas_Treeroach

    God is likely relieved with this news.

  • EffingReally?

    Here we go again with the nonsense that America was founded as a Christian nation..

    Go read the Treaty of Tripoli Drafted and signed by the founding fathers.. They state plainly that America was not founded as a Christian nation..

    I’m not an atheist by any means.. But weaving God and government together is alot of what drove people to the new world in the first place.. People wanted government free of the church and the freedom to worship as they pleased..

  • Moonbat_One

    What’s the difference between God and Obama?

    Liberals love Obama

  • kato

    Let’s give the party that embraces abortion and sodomy credit for not claiming to be doing God’s work.

    Reagan referenced the city on a hill. The Dems embrace a cesspit that looks a lot like Detroit with gloryholes.

  • billntwrk

    the g-word is like the n-word to libs, they only use it in anger

  • The only Democrat that I can remember who uses God in his speech is “Reverend” Jeremiah Wright…and he always follows it with “DAMN”.

  • EffingReally?, Not trying to get into a debate with you, but did you know that in 1892, the Supreme Court declared America a Christian nation? Review the evidence which led to the Court’s noteworthy conclusion.

    Also, did you know that the three branches of the government are based on a Bible verse?

    Isaiah 33:22
    For the LORD is our judge (Judicial Branch), the LORD is our lawgiver (Legislative Branch), the LORD is our king (Administrative Branch); it is he who will save us. The founders wanted no king (except Jesus when He returns), but they needed an administrator, so they defined that government position as President.

  • dunce

    In liberal utopia only the government gives, republicans cheat and steal, and god is elected every 4 years by democrats, if they do not win the election, the government is in the control of devils and demons. their holy book is the communist manifesto.

  • democraps suck

    Why do people think this is un-real…ozero is a mooslum who doesn’t believe in god…along with most demo-turds

  • EffingReally?

    I think you’re reaching with your three branches of government statement.. That’s some speculation in my mind..

    And activist judges will always be a problem.. We complain about them today.. So we had a group of them back then.. Just the other extreme..

    People cite America’s national motto as In God we Trust.. God didn’t make his way into our pledge of allegiance or national motto until the 50’s.. The founding fathers had some sense.. They’d roll over in their graves to see themselves misquoted and their intentions misrepresented by people who don’t bother to study their words..

    My Questions would be:
    1- how does allowing women to choose abortion in any way impact your freedoms? Are you losing any rights by women being allowed to choose an abortion?
    2- by allowing gays to Marry, does it make you any less married to your spouse? Are you losing any freedoms or rights?

    I have strong feelings about these issues myself. But i tend to work with the train of thought that allowing others these rights doesn’t impact my freedoms.. I don’t want a gay marriage, I won’t go get one.. Doesn’t mean others shouldn’t be able to if they choose.. I don’t want an abortion.. I won’t get one.. Doesn’t mean others shouldn’t be able to go get one if thats what they want to do..

    I tend to vote for candidates that run on a platform of policy rather than a moral code.. I dont want anyone’s religion telling me what rights I should and shouldn’t have..

    At the end of the day, our imperialistic foreign policy and oversized military industrial complex are bigger issues to me than hours of debating scripture and law..

  • sablegsd

    This is the kind of thing that happens when the president is a koranimal.

  • RealMc

    “Experts were surprised”


  • Here is a very good explanation of The Treaty of Tripoli from David Barton of Wall Builders.

    Article XI simply distinguished America from those historical strains of European Christianity which held an inherent hatred of Muslims; it simply assured the Muslims that the United States was not a Christian nation like those of previous centuries (with whose practices the Muslims were very familiar) and thus would not undertake a religious holy war against them.

    This interpretation is, in fact, supported by the attitude prevalent among numerous American leaders. The Christianity practiced in America was described by John Jay as “wise and virtuous,” by John Quincy Adams as “civilized,” and by John Adams as “rational.” A clear distinction was drawn between American Christianity and that of Europe in earlier centuries. As Noah Webster explained:

    The ecclesiastical establishments of Europe which serve to support tyrannical governments are not the Christian religion but abuses and corruptions of it.

    Daniel Webster similarly explained that American Christianity was:

    Christianity to which the sword and the fagot [burning stake or hot branding iron] are unknown – general tolerant Christianity is the law of the land!

    There is an alleged quote from George Washington that goes as follows:

    “The government of the United States is in no sense founded on the Christian religion. GEORGE WASHINGTON”

    Those who attribute the Treaty of Tripoli quote to George Washington make two mistakes. The first is that no statement in it can be attributed to Washington (the treaty did not arrive in America until months after he left office); Washington never saw the treaty; it was not his work; no statement in it can be ascribed to him. The second mistake is to divorce a single clause of the treaty from the remainder which provides its context. It would also be absurd to suggest that President Adams (under whom the treaty was ratified in 1797) would have endorsed or assented to any provision which repudiated Christianity. In fact, while discussing the Barbary conflict with Jefferson, Adams declared:

    The policy of Christendom has made cowards of all their sailors before the standard of Mahomet. It would be heroical and glorious in us to restore courage to ours.

    Furthermore, it was Adams who declared:

    The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were. . . . the general principles of Christianity. . . . I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God; and that those principles of liberty are as unalterable as human nature.

    Adams’ own words confirm that he rejected any notion that America was less than a Christian nation.

  • bg


    what? #22 September 4, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    that is an opinion..

    i know God exists as he once spoke to me..

    i was hundreds of miles away, my Mom was in hospital, called my sis, she
    wasn’t home, left the message on her recorder telling her what God had
    told me, when she finally called me back, she asked, albeit hesitant, in a
    soft, slow and surprisingly low tone.. how did i know?? and i told her, i told
    her, God told me.. what did i tell her, the exact words the Doctors told my
    family after almost losing my Mom on the op table.. that she was going to
    be just fine..


  • EffingReally?, your points are well taken and have been debated for a long time and will continue to be debated. The question is not “whether” moral values will influence legislation but “Whose” moral values will influence legislation. A vacuum cannot exist, so if the current moral values are tossed out, some other set will fill the vacuum. It becomes a very slippery slope, so a society has to decide what limits it puts on acceptable behavior as long as it doesn’t violate those inalienable rights guaranteed by the laws of nature and the Constitution.

    Why stop at two men or two women marrying? How about three men and a goat? Some limits have existed virtually since civilization began, and they had a purpose that benefited society. Marriage of a man and a woman produced children which propagated the society. Same-sex marriage does not.

    The same goes for the other issues you listed. Debate will continue, the standard will continue to lower, and eventually society will revert to the barbaric tribalism that existed in prehistoric times or at least during the decline and destruction of the Greek and Roman empires. It is just the cycle that society follows. Sad, isn’t it?

    I agree with you that we have bigger fish to fry, so we all need to put our efforts into booting Obama and all his ilk and trying to get the country moving away from the abyss.

  • EffingReally?

    I’d challenge your statement about Adams.. He made numerous comments about the church and Calvinistic religions and their dangers..

    Jefferson also said something along the lines of its impossible to have rights when religion and government are intertwined..

    The founding fathers are on record over and over again discussing the dangers of religious morals in the process of government.. I’d still like someone to address my earlier questions..

  • bg


    i recall the story of Barry being in Mengaji class (study of the Quran),
    and his looking up from serious prayer, and eying all around him, and
    not seeing Allah/God anywhere, ergo, decided he too didn’t exist..

    however, that in no way excludes him from using God/Allah
    to attain his primary goal, hey, it worked for his hero Hitler..


  • bg


    still with the BS about the founding fathers i see.. 🙄

    hah, just wait until the “true believers” discover
    Muhammad discovered everything, including Allah..


  • #44 bg, God speaks to all of us, but most of us don’t listen. We have experienced two miraculous healings as a result of prayer and listening to God…so did the doctors whose hands and minds He guided. The first was in 1996, and it was so remarkable that the local newspaper sent a reporter and photographer to interview us. I have a copy of the article posted on my domain. To this day, there is no medical explanation for how terminal cancer transformed into survivable cancer during surgery.

    The second was two months ago, when surgery was again initiated due to the promptings of God and the cancer was not discovered until after the surgery had removed all the suspicious tissue. Had the surgery been delayed another week, the cancer would have started spreading. God DOES speak. We just need to listen and heed what He says.

  • Mad Hatter

    They drop God, and adopt gay marriage.

    They’re on the wrong side of history and are too stupid to know it.

  • bg


    Opaobie #49 September 4, 2012 at 4:28 pm



  • bg


    The Foundation of Our Great Country: belief in God, the Almighty

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.
    That they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights,
    that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

    Declaration of Independence 1776

    “God who gave us life and liberty. And can the liberties of a nation
    be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a
    conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift
    of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed,
    I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His
    justice cannot sleep forever.”

    Thomas Jefferson 1781

    “Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon the
    teachings of the Redeemer of Mankind. It is impossible that it should
    be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent, our civilization and
    our institutions are emphatically Christian.”

    U. S. Supreme Court 1892


  • Can lightning strike in a Convention Center ?

    Just wondering ?

  • Radegunda

    EffingReality —
    You are free to have a committed relationship with the person of your choosing (or appropriate age), to share resources & burdens, etc.

    But there is no constitutional right, or natural right, to have your relationship legally recognized by the government (or society) as “marriage” — an institution that would never have come into existence simply for the purpose of recognizing the commitment of two adults to each other. It came into existence to perpetuate society and protect the vulnerable.

    Children deserve a mother and a father.

    There is no natural right for you to get partner benefits from your employer at the expense of single employees.

  • EffingReally?, Visit Wallbuilders. Every one of your concerns about the founders and religion are addressed and explained there. David Barton is probably the premier expert on the founders and the history of this nation and its Godly heritage and founding.

    Your Questions would be:
    1- how does allowing women to choose abortion in any way impact your freedoms? Are you losing any rights by women being allowed to choose an abortion?

    How does allowing women to choose to kill 3-year-olds in any way impact my freedoms? How about 18-year-olds? The age doesn’t matter, it’s the act that has an effect on society. Taking a life should only be allowed after “due process of law” as the Constitution provides.

    2- by allowing gays to Marry, does it make you any less married to your spouse? Are you losing any freedoms or rights?

    Same-sex “marriage” simply acknowledges and accepts deviant behavior just as sex with minors and incest and sex with animals does, and it provides no value to society, so society has the right to set standards for behavior. Two people of the same sex or a hundred people of the same sex can live together, they just cannot define their relationship as a marriage. States can pass legislation to provide the same benefits to same-sex couples as to opposite-sex couples, but the definition of marriage does not change. The behavior of militant homosexuals in public has become a serious detriment to the environment in which families try to raise their children. That affects everyone.

  • pink tie Republican

    Dems have created God in their own image, and He looks just like Choomboy.

  • bg


    re: #52 September 4, 2012 at 4:35 pm bg

    “Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their
    only Law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the
    precepts there exhibited… What a paradise would this region be!”

    John Adams 1756 America’s Second President

    “We have been assured, Sir, in the Sacred Writings, that ‘except the Lord
    build the House, they labor in vain that build it.’ I firmly believe this; and
    I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this
    political building no better than the builders of Babel.”

    Benjamin Franklin Statement he made at the
    Constitutional Convention June 28, 1787 ~

    “I have tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty; through the merits
    of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am a sinner. I look to Him for mercy; pray for

    Alexander Hamilton Last dying words, 12 July 1804


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  • EffingReally?

    I love cafeteria Christians and cafeteria patriots..

    How quickly we throw out the scriptures that are convenient to us.. But refuse the existence of the ones that we don’t like..

    For example– we rail against social programs and Obamacare..( I have my own issues with it) but we forget that Christ commanded us to care for the sick and the poor.. He didn’t add a clause that said unless they’re black or you feel that they’re too lazy to work.. He said care for the poor and the sick..

    Christ never said one word about abortion or gays.. He commanded us to love our neighbors.. He didn’t add a clause that says unless they’re gay or living in sin..

    And yes– this same thing applies to the founding fathers.. We can’t just take the quotes we like and run with them.. And ignore the rest.. They have to be viewed and used as a whole.

    And while I’m on a tangent: I personally believe that the founding fathers would have allowed the practice of Islam in early America.. Freedom of religion is just that.. It’s not freedom of Christianity.. We have got to stop categorizing all Muslims as terrorists.. I lived in Dearborn Michigan for awhile.. My neighbors were all Muslim and some of the nicest people I know.. You can’t categorize the whole religion based on the fundamentalists within it.. How would you like to be categorized as violent because the fundamentalist Christians that blew up abortion clinics (yes that’s terrorism) or bombed buildings..

    So yes.. Our pledge of allegiance says one nation under God.. It doesn’t say one nation under the Christian God.. Not knocking anyone’s religion or beliefs.. Just challenging you to live up to the standard you hold others to..

  • bg


    EffingReally? #59 September 4, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    you’re an (_’o’_)

    yes really..


  • EffingReally?

    Bg: is that the best you got? I’m open for discussion and debate.. I never once called anyone a name or made a personal attack.. Instead of using petty emoticons..Why not discuss with me and tell me why you disagree.. Where’s the civility these days?

  • bg


    EffingReally? #59 September 4, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    effingyes! 🙁


  • bg


    EffingReally? #61 September 4, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    i do not suffer bait & switch fools lightly..


  • EffingReally?

    So you have fundamentalist islamics.. We have fundamentist Christians in the states

    Within the last 60 days…
    – two teenage girls were killed in Texas for identifying as lesbians
    – mosques were shot up in two cities

    Do you want to be defined by these acts the same way you’re defining all of Islam by their fundamentalists? I’m by no means defending the acts of the Islamic fundamentalists.. Just asking for you to think about the standard you hold others to, and maybe point it back at yourself..

  • anti-bho

    Oh, Obama “believes”, alright. Just not the way you would think.
    Why just the other night this was heard from outside the oval office windows. (picked up from background noise on Obamas taping machine perhaps?)

    “Hear me O’ bama!
    Since thou have gained thou lofty throne thy wife has become a jaw-jacking popinjay, speaking before spoken too, spewing female opinions, gallivanting all over the world without you, and other snide remarks spoken since that could have direct, evil bearing on thy present and to thy future detriment.
    Allah suggests you help her mend her evil ways with a “little touch-up” therapy.”

    How about it Barack?

    ‘Egyptian cleric advises
    Husbands, beat your wives so they will mend their ways’, | The Times of Israel


    This I would love to see.
    Imagine all four of those females (old lady Robinson, Michelle and both girls) all over his scrawny a$$…….

  • bg


    re: #57 September 4, 2012 at 4:46 pm bg

    “It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge to Providence of Almighty
    God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and to humbly
    implore His protection and favor.”

    George Washington October 3, 1789 Proclaiming
    a National Day of Prayer and Thanksgiving ~

    “This is all the inheritance I give to my dear family. The religion
    of Christ will give them one which will make them rich indeed.”

    Patrick Henry Last will and testament, November 20, 1798

    “If we abide by the principles taught in the Bible, our country will go
    on prospering and to prosper; but if we and our posterity neglect its
    instructions and authority, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe
    may overwhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity.”

    Daniel Webster 1821

    “It is fit and becoming in all people, at all times, to acknowledge and
    revere the Supreme Government of God; to bow in humble submission to
    His chastisement; to confess and deplore their sins and transgressions in
    the full conviction that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom;
    and to pray, with all fervency and contrition, for the pardon of their past
    offenses, and for a blessing upon their present and prospective action.”

    Abraham Lincoln Declaring a National Day of Prayer
    and Fasting following the Battle of Bull Run ~


  • mg4us


    When OBAMA says that he won’t raise taxes on those making less than $250K/yr – – HE LIES. . .

    While true they will not tax in the traditional sense of the work (ie Income tax), via Quantitative Easing (printing funny money) he has added the inflation tax (gas from $1.85 to $3.85), Food price inflation, health insurance premiums increasing. . .

    This is so cynical and insidious. .

    He is robbing your savings!!!

  • bg


    EffingReally? #64 September 4, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    links please,


    One Woman’s Brave Struggle to Expose “Honor Killings”

    Women in Islam

    A Family’s Honor

    Speaker Pelosi (#12)

    [A large majority of America’s Muslims, women and girls, are
    living under sharia laws. Stripped of their human dignity


  • EffingReally?

    Bg: you wanna throw out pick as choose quotes.. Voila

    Every man, conducting himself as a good citizen, and being accountable to God alone for his religious opinions, ought to be protected in worshipping the Deity according to the dictates of his own conscience.
    — George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789, in Anson Phelps Stokes, Church and State in the United States, Vol 1. p. 495, quoted from Albert J Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom

    I am persuaded, you will permit me to observe that the path of true piety is so plain as to require but little political direction. To this consideration we ought to ascribe the absence of any regulation, respecting religion, from the Magna-Charta of our country.
    — George Washington, responding to a group of clergymen who complained that the Constitution lacked mention of Jesus Christ, in 1789, Papers, Presidential Series, 4:274, the “Magna-Charta” here refers to the proposed United States constitution..

    There ya go.. Picking and choosing and copy pasting quotes can go on all day..

    There’s multiple quotes made by all the founding fathers to support both sides of the argument..

    As a side note: Lincoln wasn’t a founding father.. But eh.. I get your point

  • EffingReally?

    And as for women and girls forced to live under sharia law–

    I think sharia law is deplorable.. I also think that fundamental Christianity is deplorable.. What’s the difference? If that’s how they choose to worship and what their religion requires.. Why shouldn’t they have a right to it? Because you don’t like it?

    I take issue with the whole wives be submissive to your husband, don’t speak, etc.. Christianity is full of misogyny and degradation to women.. Yet many embrace it.. They have a right to their beliefs as well..

  • bg


    EffingReally? #64 September 4, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    no, we point our fingers wherever the blame lies, namely the GUILTY no
    matter who or what they are, but tell me, why does the MSM continually
    jump the shark and blame the Tea Party for any and all violence the left
    is responsible for?? aah, never mind, i’m not in the mood to do your merrily
    go round in circles until you bite yourself in the arse..


  • Ann Ominous

    Careful where you step, bg. You’re gonna track bs all over the thread again.

  • bg


    EffingReally? #70 September 4, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    re: [What’s the difference?]

    rotf 😆 mbo!!

    okay, and we should take you seriously why??

    btw, now i know for certain that you’re either a true dunce,
    or just having trolling fun.. my bet is on the latter, but it is
    getting much harder to tell..


  • Not only did the platform take out God, but they put in a ringing endorsement of Obama’s policies… from an illegal alien. See the current top left post at my site for the details.

  • bg


    Ann Ominous #72 September 4, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    as you track bs all over the thread, got it.. 🙄


  • Ann Ominous

    Very Alinsky of you dear. Maybe you could tell me which rule that last one was.

  • EffingReally?, so much confusion and frustration needs to be resolved. I gave you a source to answer all your questions about the founders and their beliefs and the actual history of the founding and progression of this nation, but you ignored it and kept on the same tact. Fine, but don’t be upset if those of us who have studied it for more than 50 years and lived it for even longer grow tired of trying to guide you to answers. If you don’t dig them out yourself, you aren’t going to accept them from faceless posters on a blog.

    Fundamentalist Muslims must strictly adhere to all tenets of their religion. I leave it to you to decide what that is.

    Fundamentalist Christians must strictly adhere to all tenets of their religion. That does not include Jewish traditions that were intended only for Jews. Christians are “Gentiles”, and we are under the New Covenant that Christ made with His own blood. Fools who blow up abortion clinics are not adhering to any form of Christianity, let alone Fundamentalist Christianity.

    Jesus did have much to say about abortion and homosexuals and the poor. He discipled 12 men and explained much to them, and they in turn wrote His words down and also told them, as was the custom in those times. Read Romans, read the entire New Testament, read the Old Testament, search for various words or themes (I like Biblegateway.com).

    Don’t forget that God of the Bible is ONE God in THREE Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit….that has always baffled people, but WE are also three “persons” created in the image of God:

    1. Body
    2. Mind (with a will and emotions)
    3. Spirit

  • Ann Ominous

    Ol’ ‘effing’ got your number too don’t he?

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  • bg


    24AheadDotCom #74 September 4, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    [“We congratulate President Barack Obama for giving hope to millions of
    aspiring citizens when he announced the Deferred Action for Childhood
    Arrivals program. Immigrant youth – who grow up attending our schools,
    churches, and places of recreation – come to this nation with the same
    desires and ideals the forefathers had; liberty, justice, and the pursuit of
    happiness. In order to create immigration policies that reflect our nation’s
    values, lawmakers must work together to protect the rights of all and
    create a road map that allows immigrants to become full-fledged citizens.
    With our dreams, work, and talent we can help make America a more just
    and prosperous country.” – Gaby Pacheco, Listening to America hearing

    hmmm, could sear we vae rule sin place, but good to know La
    holds a power point position in the Obama Administration,
    thank you…

    [scroll for more]


  • EffingReally?

    Opaobie– I just scrolled back up and saw your response.. I must’ve missed it 🙁

    I’d still say.. That those are personal faith based beliefs.. I have my own.. But I try not to vote my religious beliefs.. I try to vote based in facts and policy regarding the future.

    I was a history major in college.. Focused on US history.. I’ve studied.. While I saw the answer.. I simply don’t agree.. You defended it with religious doctrine.. But didn’t tell me what rights or freedoms people lose by allowing those two things to exist.. I’m asking you to separate your mind for a moment from religious doctrine and truly tell me what freedoms you personally lose.. Not how it conflicts with your religious philosophy ..

    And Bg– all im doing is debating.. I back my view point up with facts and my discussions with my reasoning..

    Politically, I’m more of a centrist.. Ive voted for the left and the right.. I fact check things i read and hear, I get my news from multiple sources.. And I look at data..

    You’d call me Un-American for it probably.. But I feel like as a citizen who votes.. It’s my duty to not just take party progagada at face value..
    But to fact check candidates on the stump and determine the truth for myself

  • bg


    typo correction

    re: #80 September 4, 2012 at 5:39 pm bg

    hmmm, could swear we have rules in place,


  • bg


    EffingReally? #81 September 4, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    go ahead, post “your reasoning” all you like.. i’ll
    just keep calling it what it is & posting FACTS..


  • EffingReally?

    Lol okay Bg– if you call name calling and insults and a few links facts.. Then keep on going!! (ps that was an example of trolling)

  • EffingReally?, you do realize that at that time, the words “Deity”, “Providence”, “God”, etc. ONLY referred to the God of the Bible, right? Religion was even interchanged with “Denomination” in common parlance. Not everyone was religious, not everyone believed in God, but EVERYONE knew that those terms referred to the God of the Bible. Everything else was paganism, including the other major religions of the world.

    The founders feared organized religious groups would try to do what had been done in England and Europe, where the state took over the job of the church and established a “State” church, so they made it ILLEGAL in the Constitution. As Jefferson said about “the wall of separation between church and state” to the Danbury Baptists in his famous letter, which is never published in its entirety, “…a wall of separation exists between the church and the state, not to keep the church out of the state but to keep the state out of the church”…

  • SoLongSong

    Now, now…let’s not confuse that effing fellow with facts…bless his heart.

  • bg


    re: 24AheadDotCom #74 September 4, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    September 4, 2012

    U.S. citizenship needed to buy Obama products

    well, well, well, the irony of audacity, or is
    it the audacity of irony, hm, hmm, hmmm..


  • When I need help I will always turn to God and family, I would say the same to Obama and most of his party. But I think after this Convention as all the Dems put their Faith in the false prophet it will be way to late…..

  • Economan

    They dropped God years ago when they embraced abortion, Socialism, and Islam

  • Sasja

    They can choose to deny God but He Is, and He is watching.

  • #81 EffingReally?, how can I separate my actions from my core beliefs? We all act based on our core beliefs. Anti-social behavior of ANY kind is destructive to the society. I don’t accept allowing anti-social activists to destroy society, so I oppose their efforts to impose THEIR values on society and on ME and my family and friends. It’s that simple.

    By the way, some of your sources are not original and contain errors. Go to Wallbuilders and check on those errors. Revised history has been taught in school for more than a century…sadly. Are you aware that the “Jamestown Colony” site that tourists are taken to is NOT the actual site? The original was “too religious” and the PC crowd got it “recreated” a few miles from the original site. There is a small sign that points to the original site if you want to see the actual site. Christian Heritage Tours still goes to the REAL site…just fyi.

  • RKae

    I’m surprised that they didn’t change it to “our dark lord Satan.” Oh, well, maybe in 2016.

  • If Obama wins, they won’t need to convene in 2016.

  • above average

    Effing Really,

    The baby loses all its rights in an abortion.

    I lose my right to practice my faith in my church in a certain way when the government takes the definition of marriage from my religion and gives it to everyone who does not conform to my religion. It is especially removing my rights if the government FORCES my religious institiution to abandon my religious doctrine and practice THEIR belief through a law/laws.

    Did that clear a few things up for ya?


    So throw out God and allow filthy muslims a 2 hour prayer fest to the moon god allah and their new christ Imam Obama…

  • Mad Hatter

    A certain person that has come onto this thread sounds like Father Flager. I’m waiting for this individual to start preaching to us about Collection Salvation. (rolling his eyes)

  • Liz

    Basic bargain? I don’t think even these nuts know what they are talking about. The godless party is making a spectacle of itself this round.

  • Fred

    So is this the way to lose the middle by appealing to the fringes?

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  • and combine that with taxpayer funded abortions, i sure hope they run on these 2 planks. nice job dems, you making life a tad bit easier for the repubs.

  • Militant conservative

    I am so gonna love educating

    the democrats in the bible

    belt of this fact. I love

    bringing the truth to the

    Ignorant masses (democrats).

    Especially black democrats.

    Free speech is a constitutional

    Liberty. Even the

    management knows not to

    touch this.

    Powder is smokin.

  • bg
  • owl

    Good Lord, I believe Effing CAIR showed up on this thread.

    Go back and read it fresh.

  • bg


    September 4, 2012

    GOP and Democrats BOTH have reason to fear this

    [“Red September” is a dramatic feature film “based on true events”
    and produced by the same people that made the nation’s No. 1
    Christian video for over 22 weeks, “The Isaiah 9:10 Judgment.”]


  • Joanne

    No one drops God; God dropped them long time ago.

  • Joanne

    EffiingReally? You obviously are ignorant about what the Bible says about the treatment of women in the Bible. Islam’s beliefs are the absolute opposite of Christianity. What exactly do you find deplorable about Christianity? ……the pedophilia, beastiality, wife beating, polygamy, beheading, the right to kill all non-muslims….oh sorry, that is Islam. Get a clue. You and your bullcrap makes me sick. You don’t use facts or reasoning.

  • Bob-O

    God didn’t leave the Democrat party, the democrat party left him……

  • Hans

    Guess what? It’s recorded in heaven as evidence.

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  • Sunny Dayz

    Note to bloggers: This clown “EffingReally” is just a liberal (atheist) antagonist. No point in trying to reason or impart thoughtful dialogue…he’s the fly in this ointment. His moniker says it all. Don’t ALL libs reveal themselves by using the “f” word, albeit somewhat clandestine…

    Liberals… Lie Lie Lie

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  • Economan

    Well since the DNC invited Satan, there’s no reason for God to hang around. They’ve made their choice and they choose death.

  • Lady Mondegreen

    Frankly – and I say this as a church-going, confessing and communion-taking Catholic- I wish the GOP would talk less about God. Taking His name in vain is as bad as not mentioning it.

  • Limousine Barry

    Allah is in and God is out!

    That is my campaign slogan!

  • mg4us

    To all my Jewish friends. . .

    Hillary Clinton, with the help of Huma Abedin of the Muslim Brotherhood, are secretely selling out Israel for Arab Oil Money
    Who is Huma and How did she rise to such heights with FULL POLITICAL CLEARANCE?

    Let’s Just Say it was Hilary’s Les-Be-Friends

    And for all my RINO friends, Bush before he left Office should have investigated this as well as released Obama’s hidden Birth Certificate and College Transcripts. . .

    And whe is Boner?. . Er I mean Boehner? Or McCONnel? Con and Boners are what we have in RINOs

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  • bg


    September 4, 2012

    Islamic Council: Record Number of Muslim Delegates at DNC

    nah, they’re just poking fun at US.. /s/
    (#16, in connecting links, and threads)


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  • Grey Wolf

    Why should I trade one tyrant 3000 miles away for 3000 tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man’s rights as easily as a King can.” can anyone tell me when in history this was said besides the move “The Patriot” wasn’t this during the time of the war between America and Brittan?

    are we not now seeing what was said then happening today?

    i am Cherokee and though my beliefs aren’t that of others i have remembered that even on the dollar it states in God we trust….God is many different things to different people but taking god out of what was created before our time really seems immoral to me even we believe in the creator so …don’t get me wrong i have issues with how this country was founded because i have a hard time believing that god said kill rape and destroy the native nations but man is not god but he seems to play it when it makes him what he wants …MONEY…POWER…so just take the power and money away from him and watch him fall…..we don’t fear the government why do all of you?

    They fear us that is why they wanted us all gone….now they want all of you gone….do you want to end up like us fighting for your rights later on….it starts somewhere then everyone is wrong….remember what happened to us and stop letting it happen to you….