Plagiarist Joe Biden to Press: “Fact Check Me!”

Noted plagiarist Joe Biden told the Obama-media in Ohio today: “Fact check me!”

Today, Vice President Biden Challenged Reporters To “Fact Check” Him:

Vice President Biden: “I Say To The Press, Fact Check Me!” BIDEN: “What they’re proposing, and this is a fact, I say to the press, fact-check-me!” (Vice President Joe Biden, Remarks, Zanesville, OH, 9/8/12)

Vice President Biden Claimed That Republicans Were Behind The Demise Of The Simpson-Bowles Debt Commission, A Hypocritical Charge Fact Checkers Have Called “Strange”:

Vice President Biden Claimed Republicans Were Behind The Demise Of Simpson-Bowles. BIDEN: “They rejected every single attempt to reduce the debt put forward by us, by outside groups and by that bipartisan commission they keep talking about.” (Vice President Joe Biden, Remarks, Zanesville, OH, 9/8/12)

The Associated Press: President Obama Walked Away From The Simpson-Bowles Recommendation, Which “Ensured The Tough Compromises Would Not Get Made.” “In another instance, Obama appointed a bipartisan group, known as the Simpsons-Bowles Commission, to recommend ways to fix major fiscal problems like Social Security and Medicare. The commission issued its recommendations but fell three votes short of formally endorsing them. And Obama mostly walked away from the report. He later incorporated some of the less contentious proposals from the report into legislation he supported. But that ensured the tough compromises would not get made.” (Matt Apuzzo and Tom Raum, “FACT CHECK: Clinton Claims Of Compromise A Stretch,” The Associated Press, 9/6/12)

  • · The Associated Press: “The Notion That Republicans Are The Only Ones Standing In The Way Of Compromise Is Inaccurate.” (Matt Apuzzo and Tom Raum, “FACT CHECK: Clinton Claims Of Compromise A Stretch,” The Associated Press, 9/6/12)

CBS News: Obama Did Not Embrace Simpson-Bowles, So It’s “Strange” Biden Decided To Reference It. “But Mr. Obama did not embrace the plan either, which is why it’s strange that Biden decided to make a point of referencing it. It’s true there was never an official final report – thanks in part to Ryan – but the White House certainly did not make the case for the panel’s recommendations.” (Leigh Ann Caldwell, Lindsey Boerma, Stephanie Condon, Lucy Madison, Paula Reid, Brian Montopoli, and Steve Chaggaris, “Fact-Checking Obama, Biden Convention Speeches,” CBS News, 9/7/12)

ABC: “[T]he White House Failed To Embrace” Simpson-Bowles. This is an incredible line from the Vice President about the ‘Simpson-Bowles Commission’ considering that the White House failed to embrace it.” (Jake Tapper, “Simpson Bowles Again,” ABC News’s “Political Punch,” 9/6/12)

Vice President Biden Claimed That Mitt Romney’s Tax Plan Will Lead To Jobs Being Created Overseas, Though Fact Checks Have Pointed Out It Encourages Investment In The United States, And Is Supported By The President’s Export Council:

Vice President Biden Claimed Mitt Romney’s Tax Plan Will Create Jobs Overseas. BIDEN: “I wish Governor Romney would tell you about his new tax proposal. No, no he’s got a new tax proposal. It’s got a fancy name in economic terms, it’s called a territorial tax. Let me translate what a territorial tax is. Any company that goes abroad, invests and makes a profit, will never have to pay a single, solitary penny of taxes on that profit to the United States. That changes the law. No, I’m serious. And guess what? It will create jobs. Experts point out it will create 800,000 jobs in China, in Indonesia, in Mexico.” (Vice President Joe Biden, Remarks, Zanesville, OH, 9/8/12)

ABC: A “Number” Of Obama Advisers, “Including Members Of The President’s Export Council,” Support The Plan. “VP Biden railed against Romney backing a territorial tax system. But a number of advisers to the president support the idea as well – including members of the President’s Export Council, the commission the president set up to recommend ways to reduce the deficit, and members of his Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.” (Jake Tapper, “That Horrible Territorial Tax System Biden Railed Against,” ABC News’ “Political Punch,” 9/6/12)

The Associated Press: “Romney’s Proposal Is Actually Aimed At Encouraging Investment In The U.S., Not Overseas.” “Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s proposal is actually aimed at encouraging investment in the U.S., not overseas.” (Calvin Woodward and Tom Raum, “FACT CHECK: Obama And The Phantom Peace Dividend,” The Associated Press, 9/7/12)

Bloomberg: “Study Doesn’t Say That No Jobs Would Be Created In The U.S.” “U.S. companies maintain that a territorial tax system would make them more competitive in foreign markets, creating more jobs in research and administration that are often located in the U.S. Clausing’s study doesn’t say that no jobs would be created in the U.S. Instead, it says that a pure territorial tax plan would increase employment by U.S. companies in low-tax countries.” (“Biden Overstates Impact Of Romney’s Tax Plan: Reality Check,” Bloomberg News, 9/6/12)

The Washington Post: Biden Cited A Study That “Did Not Actually Study Romney’s Plan.” “The study cited by Biden, which appeared in Tax Notes, did not actually study Romney’s plan. Moreover, it said that such a system would create 800,000 jobs overseas, but not necessarily at the expense of U.S. jobs if unemployment rates are low.” (Glenn Kessler, “Fact Checking Obama’s And Biden’s Speeches At The Democratic Convention In Charlotte,” The Washington Post’s The Fact Checker,” 9/7/12)

CBS: According To The Tax Foundation, The 800,000 Jobs Created Overseas Is Not Misplacement Of American Jobs; And The Study Does Not Take Into Account That Romney Supports Lowering The Corporate Tax Rate. “The Tax Foundation, an organization that backs a territorial tax, argues that the 800,000 jobs created overseas is not misplacement of American jobs. The organization also notes that the study does not take into account that Romney supports lowering the corporate tax rate to 25 percent from 35 percent. It also argues that it doesn’t take into account the ‘job-importing impacts’ of the elimination of the repatriation tax.” (Leigh Ann Caldwell, Lindsey Boerma, Stephanie Condon, Lucy Madison, Paula Reid, Brian Montopoli, and Steve Chaggaris, “Fact-Checking Obama, Biden Convention Speeches,” CBS News, 9/7/12)

Vice President Biden Claimed Mitt Romney Shipped Jobs Overseas, Attacks Fact Checkers Call False And Slammed As “Misleading, Unfair And Untrue”:

Vice President Biden Claimed Mitt Romney Shipped Jobs Overseas. BIDEN: “Governor Romney, the man whose company he ran was referred to by the Washington Post was a pioneer in outsourcing.” (Vice President Joe Biden, Remarks, Zanesville, OH, 9/8/12) “We Found No Evidence To Support The Claim That Romney — While He Was Still Running Bain Capital — Shipped American Jobs Overseas.” “But after reviewing numerous corporate filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, contemporary news accounts, company histories and press releases, and the evidence offered by both the Obama and Romney campaigns, we found no evidence to support the claim that Romney — while he was still running Bain Capital — shipped American jobs overseas.” (Robert Farley and Eugene Kiely, “Obama’s ‘Outsourcer’ Overreach,”, 6/29/12)

  • · “The Post Story Did Not Reveal, To Use The Obama Campaign’s Term, That Romney Relocated U.S. Jobs To Foreign Countries.” (Robert Farley and Eugene Kiely, “Obama’s ‘Outsourcer’ Overreach,”, 6/29/12)

The Washington Post: “There Is Little In The Post Article That Backs Up The Obama Campaign’s Spin.” “Yet the campaign clearly seized on this report because their interpretation fit with a long-term “outsourcing” attack they have waged against Romney. One of their outsourcing ads before the article ran, in fact, earned Four Pinocchios. These new ads would not fare much better; there is little in the Post article that backs up the Obama campaign’s spin.” (Glenn Kessler, “Obama’s New Attacks On Romney And Outsourcing,” The Washington Post, 7/2/12)

The Washington Post: “On Just About Every Level, This Ad Is Misleading, Unfair And Untrue.” “The Obama campaign fails to make its case. On just about every level, this ad is misleading, unfair and untrue, from the use of ‘corporate raider’ to its examples of alleged outsourcing. Simply repeating the same debunked claims won’t make them any more correct.” (Glenn Kessler, “4 Pinocchios For Obama’s Newest Anti-Romney Ad,” The Washington Post, 6/21/12)

Vice President Biden Claimed The Romney-Ryan Medicare Plan Will Not Preserve Medicare, Which Fact Checkers Have Called “Misleading”:

Vice President Biden Claimed Mitt Romney’s Medicare Plan Will Increase Costs For Traditional Medicare, Calling It “Vouchercare.” BIDEN: “And the most important thing they did not tell you. They’re not actually preserving Medicare. They’re for a whole new plan, vouchercare. And here’s how it works, I’m not making this up. They’re going to give your mom or your dad when they become eligible, or even though they are. They’re going to give them a voucher, which is essentially a coupon, saying to your mom: ‘Mom, go out there in that insurance market and bargain for the best deal you can get, including if you want to buy Medicare. But if it costs more than the benefits you’re now getting, they say ‘Ma, you know, go borrow it or something.’ No, I’m serious, you’re going to take it out of your pocket. That’s not fair and that’s not truthful.” (Vice President Joe Biden, Remarks, Zanesville, OH, 9/8/12) Vice President Bidens’s Claim Is “Misleading,” As “Those 55 And Over Would Still Get Medicare, And Those Under 55 Could Opt For Traditional Medicare.” “Biden’s claim that ‘they’re not for preserving Medicare at all,’ is also misleading. Under the Romney/Ryan plan, those 55 and older would remain in traditional Medicare. For those currently under 55, the Romney-Ryan plan would institute a new premium-support plan beginning with new beneficiaries in 2023. Seniors would pick from private plans, or could choose traditional Medicare, all of which would be offered on a new Medicare exchange. So, those 55 and over would still get Medicare, and those under 55 could opt for traditional Medicare.” (“FactChecking Obama And Biden,” , 9/7/12)

Vice President Biden Claimed The Romney-Ryan Medicare Plan Will Bankrupt The Program, Which Fact Checkers Have Called “Wrong”:

Vice President Biden Claimed Mitt Romney’s Tax Plan Will Bankrupt Medicare. BIDEN: “What they’re proposing will actually cost the Medicare Trustee that pays the benefits when you go to the hospital, or the doctor, etc. to run out of money by 2016. That’s when we hit the wall.” (Vice President Joe Biden, Remarks, Zanesville, OH, 9/8/12)

The Washington Post’s Fact Checker: “This Is Wrong.” “This is wrong. There are different parts of Medicare, much of which is paid from general revenues and premiums. Part A, which pays hospitals, has a ‘trust fund,’ made up of special-issue Treasury bonds, that always seems to be on the edge of running dry.” (Glen Kessler, “Biden wrong on Ryan’s Medicare plan,” The Washington Post’s “The Fact Checker,” 9/6/12)

CBS: “The Romney-Ryan Plan That Would Be Enacted Instead Would Not ‘Immediately’ Do Anything To Anyone.” “But the Romney-Ryan plan that would be enacted instead would not ‘immediately’ do anything to anyone. While it would dramatically reshape the way the program’s benefits are attained for future retirees when it goes into effect in 2022, the plan wouldn’t touch seniors already on Medicare, or those 55 to 65 years old.” (Leigh Ann Caldwell, Lindsey Boerma, Stephanie Condon, Lucy Madison, Paula Reid, Brian Montopoli, and Steve Chaggaris, “Fact-Checking Obama, Biden Convention Speeches,” CBS News, 9/7/12)

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  • You should have heard the speech Biden gave today. It starts out, “Hey, you, yeah you, the kid in the Romney shirt, c’mere a minute. I wanna show you a new trick I learned. OK, kid, pull my finger.”

  • jainphx

    When oh when are we going to realize the left is a pack of lies.

  • bg


    July 2, 2012

    FactCheck to Obama Camp: Your Complaint is All Wet

    [The Obama campaign complains that we got a key fact wrong in our June
    29 article, “Obama’s ‘Outsourcer’ Overreach.” We strongly disagree.
    We find the Obama campaign’s evidence to be weak or non-existent, and
    contrary to statements Romney has made on official disclosure forms under
    pain of federal prosecution.

    The Obama complaint claims we erred in saying Mitt Romney gave
    up active management of Bain Capital in early 1999 to run the 2002
    Winter Olympics, insisting we were then wrong in saying Romney was
    not responsible for shipping U.S. jobs overseas.

    In fact, if the Obama campaign were correct, Romney would be guilty of a
    federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left
    active management of Bain Capital in February 1999.

    And after reviewing evidence cited by the Obama campaign, we reaffirm
    our conclusion that Romney left the helm of Bain Capital when he took a
    leave of absence in 1999 to run the Salt Lake City Organizing Committee
    for the 2002 Winter Olympics – as he has said repeatedly — and never
    returned to active management. The Obama campaign’s recent ads thus
    mislead when they point to investments made by Bain, as well as
    management decisions made by companies in which Bain invested, after
    that time.

    The Obama campaign’s objections are contained in a six-page letter sent
    to us (and — without notice to us — to other news organizations as well).
    It cobbles together selective news snippets and irrelevant securities
    documents in an attempt to show that Romney was still running Bain
    Capital on a part-time basis while he was also running the Olympics

    In a nutshell, the Obama campaign is all wet on this point.]


  • bg


    Romney 2002 Olympics salary = $0

    Romney Governor of MA salary = $0

    Romney pay for returning to save Bain = $1.00


  • Joanne

    The entire left are a bunch of liars. I guess they figure all their idiot followers will believe them no matter what – and I guess they are right.

  • Biden acts like Bart Simpson, “I Didn’t Do It, Nobody Saw Me Do It, There’s No Way You Can Prove Anything!”

  • Oliver

    if Romney loses, it will because he’s an honest man. Apparently the more you lie, the better you do in the polls.

    I also find it interesting that no one mentioned the hypocrisy of a man (Biden) who gives almost nothing to charity, railing on and on about how we all have a responsibility to look after one other. Huh?

  • The only “skin” Biden ever put in the game is his lying tongue.

  • Patty

    First I apologize to bg, if you have reported this;
    President Obama boasted that his plan would cut the deficit by $4 trillion over 10 years, citing “independent experts.” But one such analyst called a key element of the plan a “gimmick.”
    Vice President Biden quoted GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney as saying “it’s not worth moving heaven and earth” to catch Osama bin Laden. Actually, Romney said he’d target more than just “one person.”
    The president said U.S. automakers are “back on top of the world.” Nope. GM has slipped back to No. 2 and is headed for third place in global sales this year, behind Toyota and Volkswagen.
    Biden said “the experts” concluded Romney’s corporate tax plan would create 800,000 jobs in other countries. One expert said that. She also said the number depends on the details, and foreign jobs could grow without costing U.S. jobs.
    Obama quoted Romney as saying it was “tragic” to “end the war in Iraq.” What Romney was criticizing was the pace of Obama’s troop withdrawal, not ending a war.
    Biden claimed Romney “believes it’s OK to raise taxes on middle classes by $2,000.” Romney actually promises to lower middle-class taxes.
    Biden said Romney and running mate Paul Ryan “are not for preserving Medicare at all.” Actually, the plan they endorse would offer traditional Medicare as one option among many.
    Obama said his tax plan would restore “the same rate we had when Bill Clinton was president” for upper-income taxpayers. Not quite. New taxes to finance the health care law also kick in next year, further burdening those same taxpayers.

    So much more and we all have see the evidence.

    Honestly, though when push comes to shove, Obama is done.

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  • bigkahuna

    BG, Are those facts… I had not heard those before but love it if so.. I think there are so many stories of Romney’s true character as opposed to Obama’s selfish narcistic ways.

    Romney had to return to Bain to save it ????

    I need to research things more on that front

  • Patty



    Inside story of Obama’s struggle to keep Congress from controlling outcome of debt ceiling crisis

    So, Obama said, they had to break the Republicans on this. Otherwise, they would be back whenever it suited them politically.

    They were out of options, Geithner said. The only one might be accepting the House bill, loathsome as it might be. “The 2008 financial crisis will be seen as a minor blip if we default,” he said.

    The president said, “The Republicans are forcing the risk of a default on us. I can’t stop them from doing that. We can have the fight now, or we can have the fight later on, but the fight is coming to us.”

    So, no, Obama said, he was not going to cave. Period. He said good night, got up and left. He was very agitated.

    Geithner thought there was one other consideration. He did not mention it to anyone, not even the president, but he had thought about it a great deal. It was not just that Obama faced an economic choice or a political choice. He faced a moral choice.

    The president should not put himself in the position of saying unequivocally that he would veto, Geithner concluded, for one simple reason: No one could be sure how to put the American or the global economy back together again. The impact would be calamitous.

    “And the people who would bear the pain of that would be the people less prepared,” Geithner told others, “less able to absorb that cost. It would be something you could not cure. It is not something you can come back and say, a week later, ‘Oh, we fixed it.’ It would be indelible, incurable. It would last for generations.”

    Obama never had to confront the veto question. A few days later, House Republicans dropped their insistence on the two-step plan. The final plan accepted a debt limit increase that would take the country through the 2012 presidential contest. It also postponed $2.4 trillion in spending cuts until early 2013.

    The long-term deficit crisis had not been solved, but merely put off, leaving the United States at the edge of the fiscal cliff, where it remains today.

    Rob Garver and Evelyn Duffy contributed to this report.

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  • bigkahuna

    I would rather we check for truths than lies….. it will take much less time and space… Biden’s lips are moving…he is lying or saying something stupid.

  • richray

    How many times has Obama said that Romney wants to take the country back to the policies that got us into the mess we’re in? How vague is that? Why won’t someone ask our beloved leader what those policies are? I don’t remember anyone telling us exactly what happened only that it was all Bush’s fault…

  • My first response on hearing Biden’s challenge was “… And look at just how well that sort of challenge worked out for Gary Hart!”. I really have to wonder just how many kisses of death a campaign can give itself before they make their own defeat completely cheatproof? @_@

  • Limousine Barry

    Joe Bozo may be and Idiot but he is my Idiot!

    Go ahead and fact check him! You may find that he could surpass me on lie meter.

    I know Joe blows. But, he did play the race card. “They are going’ in to put you black people back in chains.” Fact check that! I am sure you will be surprised.

    If you like the way I play the race card then vote for me! And, this is important. Send me $30,999.99 before midnight! My campaign is going bust! Good day.

  • mg4us

    Never Bet Against the American People. . Never!
    So why have Obama and Biden done that. .
    with Obamacare passed in the dark of night using kickbacks DESPITE AMERICANS SAYING NO
    with Obama & Reid refusing to work with 2010 Congress DESPITE AMERICANS Giving them A LANDSLIDE
    With No Jobs DESPITE STIMULUS with QE1 & QE2
    With record High gas prices soon to rise to over $5/gal DESPITE Americans wanting Canadian Pipeline

    The Democrat Party of JFK, Robert Kennedy & Tip O’Neil is no more . . .
    Teddy was a leftist loon and nothing like his brothers. . he was a Loser.
    Clinton was also a loser, a manipulative, triangulating, Womanizing Loser

    Then there is Barack Hussein Obama mmm mmmm mmmmm
    The most Leftist and Radical of them all. . .(see 2016: Obama’s America)

    No wonder there are few Blue Dog Democrats left
    No wonder there is no room for Joe Sixpack and other hard working Blue Collar White Males
    No Wonder the DNC is a freakshow of Sluts, Abortionists, Welfare junkies, and Commies

    Don’t believe the poles. . .
    Don’t believe MSM. . .DemocRATs are demoralized after a downer of a speech
    So Demoralized that 15 min after Obama’s speech, over 80% of venue was vacated
    The RATs are jumping ship. . .

    Need to shine a light on these RATs and roaches.

    They are the Party that divides and spew envy and contempt
    They are the Party of reckless spending
    They are the Party of Dependency and BIG Government

    Time for some R&R from this Obamanation
    Time for real Leaders to Lead and Restore & Renew America
    Time for Romney/Ryan

    after all

  • Kissmygrits

    Be careful what you wish for, Joe. Just because you’re not a multimillionaire like the rest of the ‘rats doesn’t mean you’re not a crook. Just a stupid crook.

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  • S.S. Lietanic

    Who are you going to believe, the sinking ship or the rising water?

  • bill mitchell

    Think about this. The Democrats vote NO on God in their convention and a nation of 80% Christians rewards them with a surge of support?

    Has the nation gone mad?

  • bill mitchell

    Incredible. 4 years of utter economic disaster. Awful unemployment report. 368k Americans just give but and yet it is all washed away by one pretty speech from a known liar?

    God help us.

  • SoLongSong

    #23 Bill Mitchell: Regarding that – the “Democrats vote NO on God” – I was watching Fox yesterday, and while that whole surreal thing is common knowledge to me, apparently the other channels DID NOT cover it – except for nbc, that I think gave “about 10 seconds to it”.

    HOWEVER, following that, they pointed out that it was VIRAL on social media. Maybe there’s a slight delay in polls. I bet in a few days things’ll be different.

    That said, I watch obama giving his speeches, and marvel at the idiots behind him cheering and waving. I Just Don’t Get It.

  • bg
  • pink tie Republican

    Joe is like Satan, he “was a liar from the beginning.”

  • Valerie

    So, what does all this flurry of fact-checking show?

    The Democratic Party at the national level doesn’t have any good legislative aides.

    The principals aren’t reading proposed legislation, and they aren’t getting good summaries from their subordinates.

    Right now, there are a WHOLE LOT of mid-to-low level Democrats who are nowhere to be seen. Those people are savvy, they care about their country, and like other Americans, they view the Republican party as their emergency release valve for when the Democratic Party has an epic fail. Those people will vote.

  • AnnaS

    It is incredible that Obama’s numbers are up among older Americans! He has stolen 700+ billion from Medicare to give to Obamacare which leads to rationed care from a board who will decide what we get for care. Americans giving a huge lead to folks who boo God! No sense donating another penny or working another day. This country is dead!

  • bg


    Patty #10 September 8, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    no one ever need apologize for posting about
    the samo samo topics, the more the merrier..

    bit more re: GM (#24 & scroll thread for much more)

    May 8, 2009

    Shocker: Obama-Run General Motors To
    Start Outsourcing Car Manufacturing

    [What this illustrates is that the problem with the domestic auto industry all along has been exorbitant labor costs. Or, put more bluntly, the problem has been the UAW. In order to become solvent going forward General Motors most find a cheaper labor pool so that it can compete with its foreign counterparts. That means getting away from the UAW in Mexico, among other places.

    In summary, we could have saved ourselves billions in bailouts and kept GM’s jobs in America if the Obama administration hadn’t insisted in essentially taking the company over so that the UAW’s labor contracts wouldn’t be re-negotiated in bankruptcy. Now that the UAW has been so artfully protected by Obama, GM has to go overseas to remain profitable.

    And if Obama blocks this move toward outsourcing (and he can’t be that
    stupid as even he knows he’s now tied to GM’s future), the company will

    May 8, 2009

    Under Restructuring, GM To Build More Cars Overseas

    [The U.S. government is pouring billions into General Motors in hopes
    of reviving the domestic economy, but when the automaker completes
    its restructuring plan, many of the company’s new jobs will be filled by
    workers overseas.


    “More significantly, it raises fundamental questions about the purpose
    of bailing out these big companies. If GM is going to do more of its
    production overseas, then why exactly are we saving GM?”


    Take, for example, the Chevrolet Spark, a tiny car that GM sells in South
    Korea and elsewhere in Asia. In the next few years, the company plans to
    send some of those cars — which are built in Changwon — to the United
    States for sale.

    But since only about 5 percent of the car’s market will be in the
    United States, the manufacturing will remain in South Korea.

    Analysts who study the auto companies and their global operation
    warn against allowing political passions to obstruct GM’s efficiency.

    “If we start making political decisions with the auto industry, we’re
    going to be in tremendous trouble,” said Michael Robinet, vice president
    of global vehicle forecasts at CSM Worldwide.]

    more (#28)

    [Before he died, Apple CEO Steve Jobs reportedly told President Obama
    to adopt more business-friendly policies, because “regulations and
    unnecessary costs” had made it difficult to build factories in the United
    States. If he didn’t change course, Jobs warned, “You’re headed for
    a one-term presidency.”]


  • Fuquay Steve

    If it wasn’t too hot in here, I might agree with Joltin’ Joe. Definitely not a bfd.

  • bg


    re: #30 September 9, 2012 at 9:41 am bg

    September 7, 2012

    Biden at DNC: “Bin Laden is dead, General Motors is alive”

    August 15, 2012

    General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy — Again

    [Right now, the federal government owns 500,000,000 shares of GM,
    or about 26% of the company. It would need to get about $53.00/
    share for these to break even on the bailout, but the stock closed at
    only $20.21/share on Tuesday. This left the government holding $10.1
    billion worth of stock, and sitting on an unrealized loss of $16.4 billion.

    Right now, the government’s GM stock is worth about 39% less than it
    was on November 17, 2010, when the company went public at $33.00/
    share. However, during the intervening time, the Dow Jones Industrial
    Average has risen by almost 20%, so GM shares have lost 49% of their
    value relative to the Dow.]


  • betty

    I guess everyone is OK with this????

    Biden Admits Plagiarism in School But Says It Was Not ‘Malevolent’
    By E. J. DIONNE Jr., Special to the New York Times
    Published: September 18, 1987

    Joe Biden in law school

    Even plagiarism Robert Kennedy

  • bg


    betty #33 September 9, 2012 at 11:41 am


    ‘Just Words’

    Words Matter

    it’s one of those: it’s okay if the Pro-Dem-Libs do, we want them to do it,
    but even even if you have to put your words in their mouths, if you think
    any Rep may be even thinking of doing it, frenzy up the marxist support
    machine and have a plagiarist blast..


  • bg


    bigkahuna #12 September 8, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    if you’re referring to #5, yes, they are facts..

    [I received an email titled “The Real Mitt Romney” claiming that he went
    to both law school and business school, and worked for 28 years unpaid
    — as an intern, as head of the Olympics in Salt Lake City, as president
    of his church and as Massachusetts governor, plus he did mission work
    in France for two years. Is that true?

    Yes, it is pretty much all true.]


  • bg


    re: #35 September 9, 2012 at 2:13 pm bg

    Mitt Romney’s Character

    [On Romney’s character….

    Sometimes, this facet of Romney’s personality isn’t so subtle. In July 1996, the 14-year-old daughter of Robert Gay, a partner at Bain Capital, had disappeared. She had attended a rave party in New York City and gotten high on ecstasy. Three days later, her distraught father had no idea where she was. Romney took immediate action. He closed down the entire firm and asked all 30 partners and employees to fly to New York to help find Gay’s daughter. Romney set up a command center at the LaGuardia Marriott and hired a private detective firm to assist with the search. He established a toll-free number for tips, coordinating the effort with the NYPD, and went through his Rolodex and called everyone Bain did business with in New York, and asked them to help find his friend’s missing daughter. Romney’s accountants at Price Waterhouse Cooper put up posters on street poles, while cashiers at a pharmacy owned by Bain put fliers in the bag of every shopper. Romney and the other Bain employees scoured every part of New York and talked with everyone they could – prostitutes, drug addicts – anyone.

    That day, their hunt made the evening news, which featured photos of the girl and the Bain employees searching for her. As a result, a teenage boy phoned in, asked if there was a reward, and then hung up abruptly. The NYPD traced the call to a home in New Jersey, where they found the girl in the basement, shivering and experiencing withdrawal symptoms from a massive ecstasy dose. Doctors later said the girl might not have survived another day. Romney’s former partner credits Mitt Romney with saving his daughter’s life, saying, “It was the most amazing thing, and I’ll never forget this to the day I die.”

    So, here’s my epiphany: Mitt Romney simply can’t help himself. He sees a problem, and his mind immediately sets to work solving it, sometimes consciously, and sometimes not-so-consciously. He doesn’t do it for self-aggrandizement, or for personal gain. He does it because that’s just how he’s wired.

    Many people are unaware of the fact that when Romney was asked by his old employer, Bill Bain, to come back to Bain & Company as CEO to rescue the firm from bankruptcy, Romney left Bain Capital to work at Bain & Company for an annual salary of one dollar. When Romney went to the rescue of the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics, he accepted no salary for three years, and wouldn’t use an expense account. He also accepted no salary as Governor of Massachusetts.

    Character counts!! (and yes…that’s worth reading again!)]

    dang, Obama’s black hole machine sure has been busy,
    just about everything is getting harder & harder to find
    via the net (that includes blog posts as well).. 🙁

    [not to mention that damned Wikipedia keeps
    rewriting just about everything as well.. :mad:]


  • “Literally”

  • bg


    oops re: #36 September 9, 2012 at 2:29 pm bg

    He also accepted no salary as Governor of Massachusetts.


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