US Military to Run Urban Exercises in North St. Louis – Residents Hope It Will Cut Down on Crime

The US military will run urban exercises in North St. Louis this week. Local residents hope it will cut down on the crime in the area.

FOX 2 reported:

St. Louis Police say you shouldn’t be frightened if you see Army vehicles in the city. The U.S. Army is conducting training in St. Louis city neighborhoods during the next week.

There are dozens of army trucks, humvees and armed vehicles on a parking lot along Goodfellow.

They are there every day at the US Army Reserve Center. But St. Louis police say that some army vehicles may be driving through neighborhoods for the next week.

It is part of army training that will be going on until June 28th.

FOX 2 has made several calls to army offices in St. Louis and Washington, D.C. to get more information about the training, and why it is being held here.

Zero Hedge added this on the urban military exercises.

I have to say that this event, which is being labeled a “training exercise”, makes very little sense to me. U.S. Army troops all the way from Maryland running open exercises in armored personnel carriers on the busy streets of St. Louis? I know Maryland is a small state, but is there really not enough room at Ft. Detrick to accommodate a tank column and some troops? Are there not entire fake neighborhood and town complexes built with taxpayer dollars on military bases across the country meant to facilitate a realistic urban environment for troops to train in? And why travel hundreds of miles to Missouri? At the very least, this is a massive waste of funds.

On the other hand, such an action on the part of the Department of Defense makes perfect sense if the goal is to acclimate citizens to the idea of seeing tanks and armed military acting in a policing capacity. Just check out the two random idiots the local news affiliate picked to interview in St. Louis on the subject. Both state that they think the exercise is a “great idea”, because having the military on the streets would help to “reduce crime”.

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  • AuntieMadder

    Escape From St Louis
    Starts this Friday at a theater near you.

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  • Militant conservative

    Practice for the act of marshal

    Law and the end of your

    freedom. Time for me to

    practice stealth and targeting

    The local armory. Oops

    Already have. Military

    stateside is a static target.

    We are gurillas. Powder is dry

  • My guess is they’re worried about riots in November, and this is one hot spot to be ready for.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    My guess is they’re worried about riots in November, and this is one hot spot to be ready for.

    They’re doing it in St Louis because conducting the exercise in Los Angeles would have been too obvious…

  • midusdew

    training for what!

    This bs should not be going on in any neighborhood.

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  • ogee

    This is the typical pre-requisite to a false flag. Some military group or simiiar group trains in the streets while someone important gets murdered. I wonder who is the target?

  • teatemplar

    Bitter Clinger: (noun) A political office holder who refuses to vacate her or his elected place, after democratic rejection by the electorate. Usually associated with totalitarian rule. See ‘dictator’ or ‘anti-democratic tyrant.’

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  • Rose

    Desensitizing the peons for Martial Law.

  • Granny

    Hmmm . . . ominous. I don’t think I have ever once in my life, despite years as an Army wife, ever heard of military exercises being conducted in a civilian neighborhood. EVER.

  • bigL

    No. Don’t do this. This is bad. Federal troops have to be invited in by the Governor. Related to
    Posse Comitatus law. City councils cannot do this and local lieutenants can not order this. In Katrina GWB kept calling the gov of LA to bing in the troops to faclitate the evacuations. She said no. that that was one of the causes of the mess. But GWB had to request the permission. Also The Tenth amendmet too. States are Souverign.
    Once again thank you GOP for being the mute town criers.:ettin all these lefty donks dothese outrageous things.
    Cancel it.

  • Anyone who lives in the STL knows that going north of Washington Street is taking a substantial risk. Developing Washington Street was a big effort and it was revamped very nicely, however it is also very convenient for the criminal element. A friend of a friend is a downtown police officer. He told me that his cop friend said the crime problem has been suppressed by local media in an effort to get people downtown. Now that Washington Street has become as popular as The Landing the media is being force to report the crime. Not sure what the solution is. Unfortunately bad behavior has been exploited by the Democrat Party for political power. We have a long row to hoe to get our country back to where it once was!

  • Rose

    It ain’t good. It isn’t the Right Wing of the Military I worry about – it is the DIM POLITICIANS, and their new Dim Military leadership rising.

  • Joe Blow

    Hope it doesn’t put any of our military in danger, that area IS almost a war zone.

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  • Hobbitually conservative

    “St. Louis Police say you shouldn’t be frightened if you see Army vehicles in the city.”

    Now why would anyone be afraid of our military coming down the street? There is only one answer-obama.

    #6 June 23, 2012 at 1:40 am
    midusdew commented:
    training for what!
    This bs should not be going on in any neighborhood.

    Exactly right!

  • Sasja

    And don’t worry when you see your neighbors being carted off. They are volunteers helping the military simulate the taking of prisoners.

  • regularguy

    As hazardous as North St. Louis is, the troops warrant being paid hazard or combat pay.

  • stonedome

    funny, they said g w bush was a maniac…if riots come, let the obama supporters burn down their own neighborhoods. patriots can provide perimeter support to keep those crowds from advancing beyond the hood

  • katy

    First off..it MARTIAL LAW… not Marshal law…LOL!

    Second… it is a disgrace to think we have fallen so low as to not understand that military troops in a US city is seen as a method of keeping crime down…

    These people have no understanding of their own system of civil society and constitutional authority in proper perspective.

    ugh….

  • kato

    The military should be afraid of all the black criminals in St. Louis. St. Louis, like Detroit, Baltimore, Cleveland, Oakland, etc. has become one of America’s premier black sh-tholes.

  • Military urban exercises … this does not bode well.
    now add that to this – “A volunteer police chaplain has been told to stop using the name of Jesus when he prays at official police ceremonies or he’d lose his position. ” http://www.therightscoop.com/war-on-christianity-nc-police-chaplains-banned-from-invoking-name-of-jesus-at-official-ceremonies/

  • Shawn

    It’s a new world order and they have to train. How else are they going to be ready to kill US citizens that don’t comply with their commie views. I’m just wondering when obama is going to claim excutive order and cancel elections and claim himself supreme ruler.

  • dba…vagabond trader

    Posse Comitatus dress rehersal?

  • Can’t say I didn’t see it coming.

    Get ready for when the checks don’t come and the riots start. It’s in my book. Big Government fears us revolting, regardless of the reason. It lives for itself, a life of its own, and it will not go quietly or peacefully.

    I hate to see this, but I wrote about it sixteen years ago in my book.

    It has to come to this. We aren’t emotionally, demographically, or politically built like the wussies in Europe who have experienced thousands of years of government domination. We’ll be just as likely to do the French thing as anyone, and those in D.C. know it.

  • Benton Park Avenger

    These guys would be safer in Kandahar.

  • bobdog

    The preliminary bombardment ought to be interesting.

  • bg

    ++

    just a wee reminder (#100)

    ==

  • dmacleo

    I’ve done MOUT training ( Military Operations on Urban Terrain ) and have to wonder why they feel a need to do it in a live situation and not on the training grounds.

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  • bigL

    If the army is going to be in the street, then the army should be in the city halls. Throw all the bums out. They have created it. It is occupation, say another “Occupy Movement”. People get usedto losers occupying and bivouacking. and now the army gets called in.
    People get used to the Obamster et ux being on the news every 15 mins and then it is every min like Fahernheit 451…

  • bg

    ++

    my question is, who’s army will it be (#28), and
    /or, Obama’s civilian security force (#22)?? /s/

    ==

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  • bill

    Martial law exercise. If they think they will go Nazi on the American people they have another thing coming.

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  • flyoverland

    Last summer, the Marines held their convention in STL. Four of them got mugged by two thugs. There are probably more guns in NSTL than in the Army.

  • Desertfox

    Hope the military is using live ammo, the thugs in N. St. Louis are probably better armed. Maybe the few law abiding folks there will get some sleep for the time the military is there.

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  • Valerie

    18 USC Section 1385 – Posse Comitatus Act

    Forbids use of US military forces for civilian law enforcement, except as specifically authorized by the Constitution or Congress.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1385

    My goodness, what would have happened if Bush had done this?

    http://towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/911/

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Posse_Comitatus_Act

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/18/258936/-HUGE-Bush-Guts-Posse-Comitatus-Grabs-National-Guard-ACTION-UPDATE

  • Valerie

    More on breach of the Posse Comitatus Act, if it had been done by Bush

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/10/posse_comitatus.html

    http://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/article/Bush-considers-changes-to-Posse-Comitatus-Act-1943422.php

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/us/25detain.html

    http://www.salon.com/2008/09/24/army/

    The difference between the current president and George W. Bush is that Bush openly sought discussion of our laws and changes to them, and then took considered action. The Barack Obama administration acts in secret first, and then lies about what it has done, or tries to shove laws down the voters’ throats without discussion or even knowledge of the laws’ content.

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  • Did any of these “news” outlets think to call the Governor and ask if he requested military presence? What did Gov. Jay Nixon know, and when did HE know it?

    Seeing military tanks on our streets is ominous. Watching the reaction of these two citizens is even more so…

  • Mac in NM

    #40 My sentiments exactly.

  • manny

    follow your instinct – YOU REALLY think we the people are that stupid – and believe this so called exercise in urban cities. — preparing for the shock of your life

    NO REASON TO HAVE MILITARY EXERCISES WHEN WE HAVE SO MENY ROOM IN
    OUR OWN MILITARY BASES AND PRIVATE LAND OWNED BY THE GOVERMENT

    .GOD HAVE MERCY ON OUR SORRY ASS SOULS – BECAUSE they will not.

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  • Mark Gustafson

    Watch the New Madrid fault line – or the TVA dams – Katrina was a dry-run compared to what’s coming

  • Dan The Man

    I wonder what would happen if some Ballsy people pulled a Tienanmen Square on them and stood in front of the tanks until they came out for discussion.
    Might talk about Oath Keepers to the tank commanders.
    See how brain washed they are!

  • Disavowed 1

    Training on civilian streets? we have done enough of that overseas, so what’s up America?

  • Guy Faux masks.

  • cmcindy

    My concern is that our military is being desensitized to accept orders to act against the American people and constitution for the greater good, while desensitizing the public to such scenes. I have spent my entire life around military members and this is not how our military is trained, at least up until now!

  • Mike Kiddling

    This is BS. We all need to get on the phone and bombard the Governor’s office on Monday demanding a stop to this. This is absurd and not normal for any city in the US. Pressure from ‘we the people’ is still a very powerful tool. They want us to fear and think they are big and powerful, but remember there are many more of us than them.

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  • Oh No Mr Bill!!!!!

    In St Louis now! They need to try this crap with them Texans and see how that works out for them! I am not even from Texas, I see them as not lying down like a scared puppie. Them texans are tough and would not put up with this. Only wish the rest of the country would be like them.

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  • koolkat62

    Hey fools! Did it ever occur to you that the first people to go are going to be the cheerleading press on the front row…? Remember, “move along sheeple, nothing to see here” is not told by the press, it’s told OF the press.

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  • Red6

    You people are rather ignorant. The military has been training in urban areas around the US since the 30s. They have some annual exercises, Robin Sage I think is the name of it, that take place in North Carolina in and around urban and farm areas. This is nothing new. One only need look to history with the Louisiana and Carolina maneuvers to see this is nothing new. Rather than use your rational brains you decide to send out every crackpot theory you can come up with. It’s a sad day for America.

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  • Laryssa

    While I am a Missouri girl (born & bred), and I’m naturally cautious (Show-Me State girl), I wonder whether there is something not being reported, such as a terroristic type threat, that has spurred these ‘training exercises’. The report also doesn’t state whether the MO gov’s office requested this or is cooperating. Hmmm.

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  • Lady Val

    Posse Comitatus (the act that prohibits the military from performing police functions in the United States) has been allowed to lapse and our government is preparing to use our own troops to fight “domestic terrorists.” Of course, those defined as such are people and groups such as the Tea Party, pro-lifers, folks who have Ron Paul or Confederate battle flag bumper stickers, returning military, high-profile Christians and the like. ACTUAL terrorists don’t appear on this list. Meanwhile, a presidential order has given Obama the power to declare martial law even if there is no emergency and have Americans arrested and incarcerated without charges for an indefinite period – the suspension of habeas corpus.

    The folks in St. Louis (and everywhere else in this nation) should wake up and smell the police state.

  • Mike Kiddling

    You’re the ignorant one Red if you can’t see what’s happening around you. It certainly is a sad day in America when citizen rights are being stripped on an almost daily basis and people such as yourself “rationalize it” as just another normal thing our government does. This is how tyrannical governments start and if you don’t think that could ever happen here, you’re the one not using your brain.

  • radicaltruth

    Total morons being interviewed… welcoming military forces being used in the domestic US.

  • radicaltruth

    Hey Red6 – they’ve never done military exercises in downtown Los Angeles and surrounding areas like they’ve done this year. Check your information and get the facts. You’re woefully ignorant.

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  • Annmari

    As the Illuminati (Freemasons) always say: HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT
    – OR –
    EYES WIDE SHUT !!!!!!!!!!

  • NMD

    People, please! This isn’t a left vs right thing. The government’s got everybody arguing about left vs right. That is a red herring. It’s bilderberg vs the masses. They’ve been preparing since nazi germany lost. GWB’s ancestors were nazis. And they killed Kennedy. Obama’s passed their legislation because he doesn’t want his fkn head blown off.

  • DaughterofScotland

    Dry run for an October Surprise i.e. False Flag Event brought to you by the criminals in D.C.
    Many credible economists are predicting (from studying the statistics) an economic collapse by October. Look up the Treasury Department’s 6900 Series of Protocals during a national emergency. St. Louis is the 8th Federal Reserve District with the
    bank located at Broadway and Locust………hmmm…..

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  • Colly51

    People wake up – O is dangerous as hell

  • Colly51

    People need to wake up and realize this is not OK.

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  • AL, Orange Park, FL

    figure this IS coming we will have martial law when is the only question and of course by whom
    if it’s the mighty stink’n BO the way I figure it, sooner than later!

  • AL, Orange Park, FL

    November will tell alot as to when it’ll come

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  • Nobody

    On base at Ft. Lewis recently, I’ve seen the latest generation of PFC and SP4’s. They’re a bunch of neck-tattoo’d little freaks.

    If they show up in my neighborhood, they’ll want to go back to Iraq, where it’s safe.

  • Ant

    WAKE UP PEOPLE… It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!!! OPEN YOUR MOUTH. NOW IS THE TIME! I live in the area of St. Louis, and I am telling you there is absolutely no reason, what-so-ever, for the United States Military to be involved in ( you can’t be serious) helping the police department “round up” people who have broken the law. The crime rate is not that bad, at least not any worse than it has been for the last 20 years. Why the United States Military,? and Why Now.? Something else is going on and I hate to surmise what it might be. Get a grip and remember,those we elect are in it for the money and power and nothing else. Look up Martial Law, and see what Posse Comatatis means to all of us. Our Constitution is being taken over and taken apart by the people we have elected and put into office. The preamble to the United States Constitution begins with… “We the people, of the United States in order to form a perfect Union, establish justice, secure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, etc. Look it up and listen to it when you read it. This is the basis for this country and all that has been good for it for all of our lifetimes. Do we just give up now? I don’t think so and if you do, well shame on you and your morals and values. Had it not been for the Constitution, you would not have the things that you have and value on this day. Think about it. Military troops, tanks, and martial law in the soverign states only mean that our constitution has been wiped out, or has failed. If It happens this way, it will be because the people of the United (united, means we stand together) States has allowed this to happen, and we only have ourselves to blame when we are all in concentration camps like we have seen happen to people in the past. Crazy is as crazy does and if you turn a blind eye and a def ear to what is happening in this great country, right now, then you are def, dumb, and blind and absolutely CRAZY!