Get Ready America For Your Obamacare-Tax Penalty – Over $2,085 a Year

O-care – It’s a Big F***ing tax.

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The new Obamacare-tax will force Americans to buy the government sanctioned insurance. But, don’t worry… If you don’t buy the insurance you can just pay the penalty of $2,085 a year per family or 2.5% of your income – whichever is greater.
Business Insider reported:

Here’s where wealthier Americans will feel the effects of Obamacare. As of Jan. 1, 2013, a 3.8 percent surtax will be levied against surplus investments reported by the following groups: single filers reporting $200,000; married couples reporting $250,000; and married couples filing separately reporting $125,000.

In addition to the investment surtax, high-earning households will see their Medicare tax spike by 0.9 percent on their earned income, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. The tax will apply to individuals earning more than $200,000 and married couples filing jointly who make more than $250,000. It goes into effect Jan. 1, 2013.

Consumer penalties: Part of the controversy surrounding health care reform was that the law would mandate coverage for all Americans on pain of penalties. Those penalties will be tiered and rise over a three-year period that kicks off in 2014, according to the National Association of Consumer Protection:

2014: Families––$285 or 1 percent of total household income, whichever is greater. Individual adults––$95.
2015: Families––$975 or 2 percent of income, whichever is greater. Individual adults––$325.
2016: Families––$2,085 or 2.5 percent of income, whichever is greater. Individual adults––$695.

If you’re not covered by your employer, you’ll have to pick from a list of government-mandated health insurance packages (they’ll be called “exchanges”, with options for individuals and businesses provided at the state level). Some exceptions do apply, including low-income families who can prove financial hardship.

Flex spending account limits: In addition to capping Flexible spending accounts at $2,500 in 2013, new rules limiting what you can buy with flex accounts will remain. They’ve been effective since Jan. 2011 and apply to OTC medications unless you have a prescription, excluding the following: “Insulin, even if purchased without a prescription, or other health care expenses such as medical devices, eye glasses, contact lenses, co-pays and deductibles,” per the IRS.

Employee health coverage: Part of the Affordable Care Act’s intent is to ensure that businesses choose low-cost plans, which it hopes to accomplish by levying an excise tax on plans that cost more than $10,200 per individual or $27,500 per family. That provision isn’t in effect until Jan. 1, 2018.

“The threshold amounts may be adjusted upwards if health care costs rise more than expected prior to implementation of the tax in 2018,” Kaiser notes. “The threshold amounts will be increased for firms that may have higher health care costs because of the age or gender of their workers.”

Pharmaceutical industry: Pharmaceutical manufacturers will see a spike in annual government fees. Much like penalties against consumers, these fees will be levied on a tiered schedule beginning in 2012, according to Kaiser.

– $2.8 billion in 2012-2013;
– $3.0 billion in 2014-2016;
– $4.0 billion in 2017;
– $4.1 billion in 2018; and
– $2.8 billion in 2019 and later.

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  • dba…vagabond trader

    What a fustercluck.

  • Ella

    In Europe the average Joe circumvents a lot of this crap by doing black work after hours. Can’t say I blame ’em. Anything better than feeding the beast.

  • Patty

    Obamacare: Seven New Taxes on Citizens Earning Less Than $250,000


    The fifth new tax on the middle class, and all Americans, is the Health Savings Account (HSA) Withdrawal Tax Hike. This provision increases the additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10% currently to 20% beginning in 2013. This provision actually sets these accounts apart from Investment Retirement Accounts (IRA’s) and other tax advantaged accounts, all of which remain with a 10% early withdrawal tax.[..]

    There are thirteen other taxes that apply to businesses and that apply to high income (over $250,000 per year) households. While these additional provisions will not impact the middle class directly, they can have serious indirect consequences for middle and low income earners. Beginning in 2014, the Employer Mandate Tax will impose an annual non-deductible tax on employers with more than 50 employees who do not provide health insurance for their employees. [..]

    The Surtax on Investment Income for households earning $250,000 and more, beginning in 2013, will raise the Capital Gains Tax from 15% to 23.8% on investment income for these households and will raise Taxes on Dividends from 15% to 43.4% for the same households. Aside from the impact on retired citizens dependent on dividends, this provision will pull income from the private economy. In addition, the tax rate on Other Investment Income earned by Subchapter S Corporation (which many small business are organized as, allowing the owners to claim all business income as personal income) will rise from 35% to 43.4%. This part of the provision would place additional pressure on small businesses resulting in more layoffs and less hiring, impacting all American workers.


    These are the facts. It does not matter if you support Mr. Obama and his new law or if you oppose it, the new taxes on the middle class or real and all Americans should understand their impact on their families and the economy. Citizens, regardless of political beliefs, should recognize that Obamacare was passed with almost no sunlight shined on these middle class tax increases and need to understand that the new law was sold with the promise that there would be no new middle class taxes. This is not partisan, it is simply the reality of politics.

    Romney needs to repeat that there will be 7 new taxes over and over. He needs to have people who pay taxes and yet have low incomes as part of an ad where they list the new taxes they will have to pay and perhaps compare them to their present insurance premiums if the insurance premiums are less than the total of the taxes. I think Romney can get elected by the votes he will gain from those who want Obamatax repealed (and it should ALWAYS be called Obamatax or Obamahealthtax from now on) IF he can be strong and passionate against this tax and offer an alternative to Obamahealthtax of his own.

  • Patty

    Romney really need to win. We are finished as a Nation if he doesn’t.

  • Ella

    Leftism is a dead end. There is no way the economy can survive this. No new jobs will be created if that affirmative action fraud gets reelected, and the obamatax will cripple many. Congratulations lefties. Reelect resident Obama and you will have destroyed this country.

  • Patty

    #5 June 29, 2012 at 10:32 am
    Ella commented:

    Leftism is a dead end. There is no way the economy can survive this. No new jobs will be created if that affirmative action fraud gets reelected, and the obamatax will cripple many. Congratulations lefties. Reelect resident Obama and you will have destroyed this country.

    I have to say, with the Fourth of July coming, I have nothing to celebrate under this administration. I blame the voters in 2008 and the media. They never vetted Obama and his past. I can only hope that we can get Obama out of office, and then I want to see his gloat.

  • Patty

    BTW, sorry, I love my country and I support our troops. I love the freedom we still have.

  • olm

    I put this information on my fb page. I usually refrain from politics on the stupid thing but this law is completely insane.
    The myth that healthcare will be free absolutely need bright white hot light.
    I really don’t care about the politics of the thing, killing the free market in health care necessarily skyrockets the cost.

  • Patty

    ot sort of.

    It’s One Battle – STEP UP!

    Elections are the primary constitutional vehicle through which WE the People drive the direction of government at every level. But elections DO NOT belong to the government, local, state or federal. Elections DO NOT belong to the parties, red or blue and both hopelessly corrupt. Elections DO NOT belong to the unions, however well- funded these Neanderthals may be.

    November may well be our last chance to take back our republic peacefully. Don’t miss this chance. After that the cost will be exponentially higher. Elections belong to the American People. It’s TIME TO TAKE THEM BACK. This November may well be our last chance to restore the constitutional republic peacefully. DON’T BLOW THIS CHANCE.

    They’re already trying to steal this election through every means possible. DON’T LET THEM. STAND UP. STEP UP. TAKE BACK WHAT’S RIGHTFULLY YOURS BY THE GRACE OF GOD ALMIGHTY. HOOAH!



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  • first trimester obama

    Patty I am with you. I WILL NOT pay for the homosexuals and Islamists to abort each other and get their little African teeth cleaned, even if I did make 250 grand a year.

  • Dave-O

    Lean Forward Amerika!

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  • holymolygarchy

    Bend over America, here comes socialism’s fascist nightstick of health care for the poor.

  • donh

    You MUST pay but what will you get when in need of medical service….?….All this $2,000 will go into general fund accounts to be stolen by politicians just like Social Security. …and if as a fetus you are examined to be a big healthcare risk…you won’t make it out of the womb.

  • Patty

    And remember this:

    Democrats expressing buyers’ remorse on Obama’s healthcare law

    An increasing number of Democrats are taking potshots at President Obama’s healthcare law ahead of a Supreme Court decision that could overturn it.

    The public grievances have come from centrists and liberals and reflect rising anxiety ahead of November’s elections.

    “I think we would all have been better off — President Obama politically, Democrats in Congress politically, and the nation would have been better off — if we had dealt first with the financial system and the other related economic issues and then come back to healthcare,” said Rep. Brad Miller (D-N.C.), who is retiring at the end of this Congress.

    More here:


    Obamatax, if we refuse what will IRS do, there are many jobs in this department if you are looking. They will need many to enforce this tax.

    So, instead of creating private jobs, Obama is creating public jobs. He has been lying through his teeth and has passed off to the American people a BAD BILL OF GOODS.

  • holymolygarchy

    Obummagumma thugs have initiated a coup against America by threatening the lives of Justice Robert’s family. This is becoming more and more well documented.

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  • libtard for jesus

    No football spiking parties over here huh? I love that America is finally moving forward. Next move is hopefully single payer. My moral compass feels something is wrong with turning a buck off sick and dying people

  • libtard for jesus

    @ first trimester obama you should put that in the form of a prayer. Dear God, I know you made all of us and jesus said the greatest commandment is to love your neighbor, but I will not pay for the homosexuals and Islamist to get their little Africam teeth cleaned. Thank you GOD, amen

  • holymolygarchy

    Libtard, maybe you will be talking out of the other side of your insane stupid face when the Mormon version of Jesus condemns you to a special hell for retarded people. Christians and people who are sort of like Christians will NOT SIT STILL while Oblanketparty pees on our rights and our dignity.

  • Nelle

    Libtard, I guess if you were a health care professional you’d donate your work so as not to make a buck off the sick, and live off the taxpayers who actually support themselves through their work. Because your moral compass points to stupid.

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  • libtard for jesus

    @NELLE Actually, I am a mental health case manager, so I do work in healthcare. I work at a non profit institution which is governed by a board of directors. We work to contain cost, so there are no big exec bonuses to incentivies skimpy care. Everyones pay is comparable to private industry except upper and mid management. We also do not need to produce dividends since we are not profit. So essentially we are a success for the sick & workers, a fail for anyone wanting to earn bonuses or investment income.

  • Mormon Convert Mom

    Nelle, Libtard is a lying fascist hate monger. She is a minion of the epileptic socialist Roberts court. America has been destroyed. The poor and the sick are pissing all over the constitution and stealing my medicare. I will drive my rascal over their filthy toes.

  • Blue Hen

    Supposedly commenter #24 is a selfless, wonderful mental healthcare worker that uses the term retarded as a weapon. One doesn’t reconcile with the other.

  • Robert

    Yeah. Moving forward. Away from the Constitution and everything that has made the nation great. Forward toward becoming a federal wet-nurse national nanny-state.

    There’s nothing wrong with compassion or charity. But now it is becoming nationalized and forced. This will result in a hand-out mentality, and if things don’t work out so swimmingly, to whom will you turn? The turncoat Supreme Court that just managed to twist not only original intent but also the intent of the legislation they just ruled on?

  • Mormon Convert Mom

    Nelle, her moral compass points are not stupid. Her compass points are evil.

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  • libtard for jesus

    @holigarchy first , there is nothing wrong with “retarded people” last time I checked God made them too. Some of my clients are wonderfully sweet and developmentally disabled. Second, I do strive for social justice for all of Gods children. I leave judgement and salvation to GOD. Third, I will not come before his presence having made money and the lust for material possessions the purpose of my life. If you are so concerned about lacking resources, maybe you should really question the distribution of wealth. Question why you are not being fairly compensated and cannot afford the same life you a decade ago.

  • libtard for jesus

    Epileptic? Is that supposed to be an insult? Thats a serious medical condition. My moral compass is just fine, thanks.

  • Blue Hen

    The oddest part about the vitriol and hatred coming from this self proclaimed mental healthworker is the choice of tactics. He/she/it came to this site to gloat and perhaps vent, spewing obama talking points. For some reason, he/she/it omitted the profanity, but included hateful references to Christianity and the retarded. As if those are somehow better than the filfth spewed by obama or the executive director of the DNC. This was followed by echoing obama’s desire to bury the inconvenience of examining this massive tax increase. Does anyone thinkg the violence and hatred spewed by #24 will result in the desires of obama being satisfied?

  • Robert

    “Question why you are not being fairly compensated and cannot afford the same life you a decade ago.”

    I was doing fine until the Democrats started running up +Trillion$ deficits and meddling in every aspect of my life.

    Let’s simplify it. Do you want a Constitutional Republic that has lasted for over 200 years, or a socialist welfare state that is already fast approaching bankruptcy?

  • libtard for jesus

    @blue hen. Though shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

  • Mormon Convert Mom

    Some of my favorite people on this very site are developmentally disabled. God gives us all different gifts.

  • Blue Hen

    If you are so concerned about lacking resources, maybe you should really question the distribution of wealth.

    Golly. The alleged mental healthcare worker is right. Here goes:
    1.If we live in a fair, just society, why did Barack Obama claim more in deductions (over $150,000) than the average family made last year?
    If we live in a fair and just society, why do evvvvvvviiiill for profit healthcare systems create patronage jobs like the one Michelle Obama got ($300,000 salary) and then make them dissappear when Michell moved on to greener pastures?

    Somebody oughta contact the Occupy movement or Attackwatch or something.

  • Mormon Convert Mom

    @ Blue Hen, what do you expect from someone who supports the Obama administration’s willful destruction of our republic? She is motivated by evil. There is no talking sense to her, she is a shameless tool of socialism and Satan.

  • Blue Hen

    1. Thou shalt not inflict one’s religion on someone else. It ain’t polite. And it isn’t inclusive and multicutural and tolerant and all that. Try reading an Obama speech.
    2. And if you do it to a muslim, it might get you killed.
    3. Hiding behind one of the Commandments isn’t much better.

  • libtard for jesus

    @bluehen, just using a name I was called last week by a so called,christian conservative. Back to the real issue, you people must examine your disdain for those who are poor, because in the end, the judgement will be based on your concern for your fellow man.Matthew 25:35.

  • Mormon Convert Mom

    The Devil walks among us, “helping” the poor and the sick with my tax dollars. Joseph Smith and the rest of the founding fathers are rolling over in their graves.

  • Mormon Convert Mom

    Matthew 25:35 is a lie from the mouth of Satan.

  • Blue Hen

    She is motivated by evil

    Occam’s razor tells us that we should look to the simpler explanation as being the most likely, correct answer. Evil can be proven, but is hard to diagnose. Now as to he/she/it being dumb as a stump, ample evidence exists.

    Remember the 11th Commandment: “Thou shalt not stick thy body parts into the moving parts of machinery, ’cause it will snack on you and enjoy it.”

    Showing up here whining about the evils of profit in health care after Mrs. Obama scored a patronage job is like trying to make out with a chain saw. There may be a niche for it somewhere, but I doubt you’ll take it home to meet your folks.

  • Blue Hen

    “you people ”

    Gosh. I’ve had the misfortune to meet many racists, bigots and other reprehensible people who sterotyped other human beings. Tsk. You should work on that.

    And as for this “other person”, you have no more proof that they are a Christian than we have that you are a mental healthcare worker. It’s time someone told you that you’re currently on the Internet. Such ambiguity is part of the territory.

  • Ella

    Libtard your side is really going to need you when they are all going bananas after we massively vote resident Obama out in November. Glad we have at least one libtard mental health hippie.

  • Mormon Convert Mom

    Blue Hen this is a family website. Can you please keep your pornographic chainsaw imagery to yourself?

  • Robert

    “Back to the real issue, you people must examine your disdain for those who are poor,”

    The disdain is not for the poor, but for those who abuse and want to change a successful system of government under the guise of helping the poor, which said help never seems to succeed in reducing the number of the poor.

  • Blue Hen

    #45 Fair enough. I vow that I will not use the language used by the President of the United States. Or the VP. Or the Executive Director of the DNC. Or the T-shirts that they’re selling. or their bumper stickers. Or……

  • Mormon Convert Mom

    Mental health hippies are crushing us to death with their government supported compassion for “sick” people who are in “pain.” Jesus will kill them and burn their houses down.

  • Blue Hen

    Our mental healthcare worker doesn’t seem to be making any more house calls. Maybe it’s due to cutbacks caused by obamcare. Either that or he/she/it ran out of quarters.

  • libtard for jesus

    @Bluehen you are not a christian than i apologize. Back to your point about the Obama made that much because he wrote books and graduated from an elite university…that’s why so many wealthy send their children their vs. Local state run schools. I fully agree with cush jobs being eliminated. That’s why we are not for profit. It really does cut down on social promotion. Have coworkers that are muslim…we talk about our religions as they have tons of similarties. So you are saying the trillion dollar deficit caused you economic problems? Are you a displaced govt worker? Inflation is low, interest rates are down, taxes are down, so why has nothing trickled down to you?

  • Bob

    Individual Mandate Excise Tax (Jan 2014): Starting in 2014, anyone not buying “qualifying” health insurance must pay an income surtax according to the higher of the following

    How much will a “qualifying” health plan cost?

  • Mormon Convert Mom

    Because the communist Obabydaddy administration and the corrupt Roberts court gave all the money to the socialist banks, who squandered it on satanic hippie hedge funds. The poor and the sick have robbed us blind with their corrupt financial machinations.

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  • libtard for jesus

    Jesus can kill me and burn down my house? Are you serious? Are you trying to make mormons look bad. Growing up we had a mormon family in our neighborhood and they would never say some stuff like that.

  • Ella

    50 -Nothing trickles down to the producers. Stuff does trickle down to foods stampers, welfarers, free phoners and union scum, but the rest of us are just supposed to cough up more money for the takers. That you even think of stuff trickling down is telling.

  • Blue Hen

    Obama made that much because he wrote books and graduated from an elite university…

    You whined about the evils of profit. Obama has profited handsomely. He claimed more in deductions than the average family makes. That puts him in the %1 that he claims to hate.

    I fully agree with cush jobs being eliminated.

    Oh yeah? So why don’t you use Michelle and her “cushy” job as an example? Why didn’t Obama use it? Who would know better than he, and supposedly he cares about this. She could have been the poster child for Obamacare: “Don’t let THIS ever happen again”. I’ll admit that it might have made date night a tad awkward.

    So you are saying the trillion dollar deficit caused you economic problems?
    I have no idea where this came from. We live in a nation of over 315 million people, and we’ve been part of the global economy since this nation was born. There is no one issue. I do remember democrats moaning about deficits ((a guy named obama comes to mind). The tune suddenly changed when he got control of the printing presses.

    Are you a displaced govt worker?

    Please sit down, because this will come as a shock. There are people in this country and in this world who do not work for government. Worse still, some don’t wish to. Even worse, our economy needs to create over 125,000 just to keep pace with the number of people who enter or re-enter the job market. The economy hasn’t come close to doing that in over two years.

    Inflation is low, interest rates are down, taxes are down, so why has nothing trickled down to you?

    I remember the good old days when all good leftists despised ‘trickle down’ notions. Now it’s being used as, “where were you when the tricklling happened?

  • Blue Hen

    Are you trying to make mormons look bad.

    No, we have the DNC and several leftist media types working full time on that. They are the same ones who cranked out “white hispanic”.

  • Mormon Convert Mom

    If your house stands in the way of God and the Constitution, you can bet your fat hippie bleeding heart paycheck that I will burn your house down. Traitor. Blue Hen and Justice Alito and I will throw sand in your dirty hippie eyes and say demonstrably false things about you until you cry. If you try to explain something to us, take this to the bank: we will not understand it.

  • Mormon Convert Mom

    your figurative house, I should say

  • ebayer

    The Obama administration has given the IRS 500 million extra dollars “outside the normal appropriations process” to help them enforce the provisions of Obamacare that they are in charge of overseeing.

    And they took 500 million dollars from Medicare.
    Hmmmmm,so the money they took from senior citizens are being used to fund the IRS.

  • Blue Hen

    Blue Hen and Justice Alito and I will throw sand in your dirty hippie eyes

    If you mean this figuratively, count me in. My first reaction was to tell he/she/it to pound sand, but yours works too.

  • sandybanks
  • Blue Hen

    so the money they took from senior citizens are being used to fund the IRS.

    I hate it when profit loving rethuglicakkkkkkkkkkans do things like this….What? Obama did this? Oh…..Never mind.

  • Mormon Convert Mom

    Pound sand into your eyes, you liars. Oballonanimal and his rapacious hogs are spraying filth and these crybaby hippies are screaming about helping “sick children.” I will tell you who the sick children are.

  • Mormon Convert Mom

    correction: Oballoonanimal.

  • Patty

    Rush: Obama to veto military appropriations to force military off TRICARE
    Rush Limbaugh Show

    Now on Rush. Claims that Obama is threatening to veto military appropriations unless Congress raises TRICARE fees for active and reserve military and their families. Rush’s take: to force military off of TRICARE and into his desired single payer Obamacare, to be announced after the election.

  • John Duffy


    Can this law be challenged on the basis of equal protection, because of the waivers granted?


  • Patty

    Chief Justice Roberts: It’s Not A Tax, It Is A Tax; It’s Law, But It’s Not ‘Unlawful’ to Break It


    Roberts then concludes that he while he considered the “penalty’ and “penalty” in determining that his court could take up Obamcare and rule on it, he will now consider the “penalty” a “tax” for purposes of allowing Congress to force people to buy health insurance.

    “The same analysis here suggests that the shared responsibility payment may for constitutional purposes be considered a tax, not a penalty,” he says.

    He then further concludes that it would not be “unlawful” for Americans to disobey the law’s declaration that they “shall” buy health insurance, so long as they pay the “penalty”—or, strike that, the “tax”–for disobeying the law’s unambiguous mandate.

    “While the individual mandate clearly aims to induce the purchase of health insurance, it need not be read to declare that failing to do so is unlawful,” says Roberts. “Neither the Act nor any other law attaches negative legal consequences to not buying health insur­ance, beyond requiring a payment to the IRS.

  • Blue Hen

    It seems that our “menatl healthcare worker” has again gone bye bye. Perhaps it was time for medications.

  • Patty

    We have to hang this Obamatax around Obama’s head. And we must VOTE IN MASS IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THIS NATIONWIDE TAX, ESPECIALLY ON THE MIDDLE CLASS.

    THE really bad things kick in after election in 2014, therefore, we still have time. Congress and Senate must be majority Republicans. This is what Roberts is sort of saying.

    Voters vote for their leaders, he can change that, so IT IS UP TO ALL OF US, TO CHANGE THINGS.

  • Patty

    he can change that, so IT IS UP TO ALL OF US, TO CHANGE THINGS.

    Roberts can change the politics of this. That is not his job. So, he is leaving it up to US.

  • Mormon Convert Mom

    Oh gosh Patty! Can you believe the satanic nerve of Odingus! He is going to force our soldiers onto socialized government run health care. Satan has won. These sh*t eating m*ther f*ckers are going to kill us in our beds. Gay Muslims will rape us to death while Odirtmouth laughs about our painful pre-existing conditions from his satanic taxpayer-supported helicopter.

  • ejhickey

    there is specific language in the ACA (Obamacare ) that forbids the IRS from making collection attempts or prosecuting people who don’t buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. In other words ,if you don’t want to buy the insurance , don’t and nothing will happen . well , you might get a letter from the IRS begging for payment, but just write “NO” on it and send it back with a 1 cent stamp.

    when you need the insurance , buy it. remember , you cannot be turned down even if you have pneumonia or a broken leg when sign the contract.

  • valerie

    Didn’t I just read in that brand-new Supreme Court opinion that this law was supposed to fix a problem that was costing insured families $1,000 a year? And didn’t that information show up in both the majority (Roberts) and dissenting (Ginzberg) opinions?

    Roberts opinion, page 16

    “Congress estimated that the cost of uncompen- sated care raises family health insurance premiums, on average, by over $1,000 per year. 42 U. S. C. §18091(2)(F).”

    Ginzberg dissent, page 6

    The size of this subsidy is considerable. Congress found that the cost-shifting just described “increases family [insurance] premiums by on average over $1,000 a year.” Ibid.

    The Ginzberg dissent, which is likely to rely substantially on the facts most heavily promoted by the supporters’ side, contains two surprising admissions, as well.

    Ginzberg dissent, page 3 Spending on health care is expected to eventually double.

    Collectively, Americans spent $2.5 trillion on health care in 2009, accounting for 17.6% of our Nation’s economy. 42 U. S. C. §18091(2)(B) (2006 ed., Supp. IV). Within the next decade, it is anticipated, spending on health care will nearly dou­ble. Ibid.

    Ginzberg dissent, page 5 And the problem is actually pretty small — only 5% of the market.

    As a group, uninsured individ­ uals annually consume more than $100 billion in health- care services, nearly 5% of the Nation’s total.


    So, we are going to DOUBLE the amount Americans pay for their health insurance right now, to make up for a current 5% shortfall, and collect $2,000 per family now while the actually shortfall is $1,000.


    They lied about it not being a tax, and they’ve lied about how it’s going to be used.

  • valerie

    #73 June 29, 2012 at 1:14 pm
    Mormon Convert Mom commented:

    moby. Ignore.

  • kato

    Somebody’s got to pay for all those parasites who’ll be getting their insurance for free.

    Does anyone still wonder why 90-plus percent of blacks vote Democrat? Oh, yeah. I forgot. The dopes at GOP headquarters still think they’re going to win them over with free-market ideas.

  • Blue Hen

    The dopes at GOP headquarters still think they’re going to win them over with free-market ideas

    I’d much rather lose telling the truth than to gain by lying constantly. The solicitor general argued the first day that obamacare had a mandate. The next day, when arguments for the other part of the suit were being heard, he argued that it was indeed legitimate, because it was within Congresses’ power to tax.

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  • Patty

    OT but on the theme of Obamatax

    ObamaCare Decision Means Feds Will Continue to Cull Gun Owner Information

    While the decision means many harmful things for the American public, the Second Amendment community remains greatly affected,
    [GOA’s John Velleco was at the U.S. Supreme Court today to speak with media about how the ObamaCare decision negatively impacts gun owners.] as the law requires Americans’ medical information to be culled and entered into a national database.

    Centralizing these medical records will allow the FBI to troll a list of Americans for ailments such as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) to deny them their gun rights, in the same way that the Veterans Administration has already denied more than 150,000 veterans their right to bear arms.
    GOA’s John Velleco[…………..]

    Americans now know what we need to do: We need to repeal the Individual Mandate through a legislative rider (or amendment) to the must-pass Continuing Resolution, which Congress will take up around September 30. And perhaps, the ultimate way to get rid of ObamaCare is to get rid of Obama.

    In the process, we will need to put a constitutional majority in control of the Senate and consolidate and even expand the anti-ObamaCare majority in the House.

    But the first line of defense is to force a vote on must-pass legislation to repeal or “defund” the mandate. You can expect Gun Owners of America to be at the epicenter of this battle.


  • Patty

    There is a lot of ‘STUFF’ IN THIS OBAMATAX. I cannot imagine Robert’s decision because I heard over and over again there are things that we are still unaware of it this.

    Watch, Holder and Fast and Furious seems to be intertwined in some way with Obamatax.

    There is some much for us to comprehend. We need to check into this God awful mess.

    And a mess it is. Again, VOTE THEM ALL OUT OF OFFICE. This seems to be so evil and divisively manufactured and the never read it????? Pelosi, oh, my. She needs to go just as much as Obama does. Those two knew this thing was a tax but went behind close doors and then she tells us the tea Party are Nazi or Racists.

  • Paul in N. AL

    Well I’m not paying, what are they going to do stick 150M people in jail?

  • a huge money grab by the politicans

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  • libtard for jesus

    @ blie hen I have no problems with disagreement on politics, but the threats to burn down my home and pound sand in my eyes is a bit much. No wonder you there is so much suffering. Blessings don’t flow into hate filled hearts. Jealousy over the most powerful man in the world being a person of minority heritage will never make you anything more than what you are now. Be mad about cushy jobs because you will never have people create those for their friends while they are on vacations and everything else. Until you sit down and figure out who took your american dream, you will live the rest of your life with decreasing standards. And judging by your deflection to my questions, your heart knows the answers. Out

  • Blue Hen

    Jealousy over the most powerful man in the world being a person of minority heritage

    And our favorite mental healthcare “worker” has now played the race card. So when obama rages against the rich, that’s okay. But pointing out that he’s of the 1% and that his dear wife was one of those evvvvvvvvvviiiiiiillll profit taking fat cats in healthcare is jealousy AND racism. Wow; a twofer. But of course to you, that isn’t a “bit much”. Because racial hatred is your stock in trade, when you’re not busy feigning Christian ethics.

    What a wonderful convincing argument. How could anyone disagree with a tidy turgid pack of lies like this? Tell us again; which side of the bars are you on in that mental health facility?

  • obamas support infantside, cap&tax

    Yep IRS just got 300M the second it was passed! Branded Prescription drug will pass a HUGE tax to drugs companies–IRS is the enforcer!..22 new taxes! Its already on the new 1040 for the
    ACA tax for each individual! TAXES on your cell phone bills to pay for free phones, thaey get those along with their handicap parking stickers..and food stamps…

    TAXES for the air we breathe—higher gas taxes..higher food prices…now 22 new taxes on health care for the million he just let in–in 3 years they have destroyed our entire system..
    just like they did in DC…came in destroyed it…thugs…hail to civil rights!

  • mcc

    MConMom and libtard are one and the same.

    Like Barry, whatever he says is total fabrication.

    But he’s workin’ hard for the money…

    When you’re low on dough, you gotta make one look like two…or three.

    Buck up, Barry, the money might pick up next month: tellin’ ’em it ain’t a tax may work!

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  • myvoice

    I suppose I will never understand why some people feel that all Americans having health care is a bad thing. We all pay for it one way or another, and we will all eventually need it one day. I don’t have a problem with paying for health care, and I’m actually looking forward to the reduction in health insurance premiums as a result of everyone being required to carry coverage. Why should some people be allowed to not have coverage, go to emergency rooms for health care and thereby cause my rates to go up year after year? It’s a known fact that emergency room care is considerably more expensive than seeing your family doctor. If you don’t want to purchase health insurance, then don’t. You will however have to pay the fine or tax, you choose the wording, and rightly so. I have a family member who has already seen the benefits of the new health care law. He is enrolled in the high risk insurance program that President Obama implemented some time ago and his premiums were reduced from just under 1200.00 monthly through a private insurance provider (Aetna) to about $400.00 monthly. ($386.00 to be exact). How can anyone consider this to be a bad thing? I think that if many of you actually researched the health care law, you would be surprised at the many positives that it provides. Anger will get you nowhere.


    Its O.K. for americans to pay for what they can use but I am “holistic” and do not use man made medicine or tactics. There is no insurance coverage for me so this would mean I would be forced to pay for what I can not use? There is no holistic hospital but plenty of holistic doctors. Many people do not realize that the illnesses you get in life are not ever cured with man made medicine but cleverly masked over to make you feel instantly better! Holistic does cure most situations. Recently my wife was diagnosed with liver disease and this type under normal man made healthcare would cost over $10,000 in tests before treatment? I am glad to say that about $700 later using the care and treatment of a holistic doctor her liver is cured! It makes no sense all of our freedom is under attack and know one seems to care!??????

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  • Lefty

    Those of you in contention…take a long slow deep breath,…then do it again! Then remember this… if you care about this nation… you must come together somehow.
    If not…..this nation and all it has stood for — will soon be history.

    Be a citizen.

    Hang together…or you will all hang separately.

  • myvoice

    DO-NOT-TREAD-ON-ME ~ I can see and understand your point about holistic medicine and I believe that it does work. I don’t have all the answers nor do I claim to, but we have to start somewhere as not all medical issues can be addressed holistically. Heart attack, aneurysm or even a motor vehicle accident would be a few examples.

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    Obama trojan care can kiss my kiss and If America goes than so be it . I would rather live in an America where ohole cant threaten the lives of Roberts children than an America where we allow a liar president to threaten judges.

    A promise made from the liar obama is not a promise.. idiot lefturds

  • patriot

    Happened upon a copy of the Declaration of Independence the other day. As I was reading the document, it took me awhile to realize the first few paragraphs were about King George iii, not our current administration.

  • patriot

    My favorite Holiday will be observed on Wednesday. Read the Declaration and remember how much was sacrificed by our nation builders, only to be trashed by the Puppet Commander in Chief.

  • patriot

    If we could just take control of his teleprompter!

  • Goober McGilucudy

    “Get Ready America For Your Obamacare-Tax Penalty – Over $2,085 a Year”

    Who do you figure is this character you refer to as “you”? Families making over a million dollars a year?

    Let me let you in on a secret. That’s not me. It’s not 95% of all hard working American taxpayers, either.

    I think it best that you pass this note onto your legal counsel. They can explain to you that this title is not an editorial opinion. It is a fraudulent claim.

    Fraud, lest you have forgotten, is illegal. Your counsel knows this. Perhaps you can learn this for yourselves by asking them.

  • WTF

    Did you even read the article? In 2016, when the penalty takes full effect, the penalty will be the GREATER of $2,085 or 2.5% of your income. Read…comprehend….then comment.