Crank Juan Williams: Hey, Let’s “Blow-up” the Court Over Obamacare Mandate

Oh, boo-hoo-hoo…
Just a crank” Juan Williams thinks Democrats should “blow-up” Supreme Court if they decide to throw out the unconstitutional Obamacare mandate.

A typical Democrat, Williams thinks using thuggery against the court will win the Democrats praise from the masses.
The Hill reported:

Every political strategist working the fall elections sees a game changer coming by the end of the month.

That’s when the Supreme Court rules on the constitutionality of President Obama’s signature legislative accomplishment, the Affordable Care Act.

The Democrats have a nuclear option in this political game if the high court throws out the healthcare law as unconstitutional.

That blowup-the-system button, not pushed since FDR’s attempt to stack the court with Democrats during the New Deal, is for Obama to use the bully pulpit of the White House, and the national stage of a presidential campaign, to launch a bitter attack on the current court as a corrupt tool of the Republican right wing.
It is a move that could energize Democrats and independents even as Republicans celebrate a major legal victory.

Some Democrats, sensing a political windfall, can’t wait to start the offensive.

Currently 53% of likely voters favor repeal of Obamacare. Only 39% oppose repeal.

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  • Practical Jane

    Health Care? Hardly.
    Obamacare is a framework to destroy the Republic.
    Blow it up or it will blow America up.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    At the risk of sounding repetitive, imagine the storm of indignation by leftists and their fellow Democrat media handmaidens if a Republican had said something like this.

  • Militant conservative

     
     

     
     

     
    Let’s hope this guy’s theory is right!

    Why Obama Will Lose in a Landslide

    By Wayne Allyn Root

    May 30, 2012
    Most political predictions are made by biased pollsters, pundits, or prognosticators who are either rooting for Republicans or Democrats. I am neither. I am a former Libertarian Vice Presidential nominee, and a well-known Vegas oddsmaker with one of the most accurate records of predicting political races.
    Neither Obama nor Romney are my horses in the race. I believe both Republicans and Democrats have destroyed the U.S. economy and brought us to the edge of economic disaster. My vote will go to Libertarian Presidential candidate Gary Johnson in November, whom I believe has the most fiscally conservative track record of any Governor in modern U.S. political history. Without the bold spending cuts of a Gary Johnson or Ron Paul, I don’t believe it’s possible to turnaround America.
    But as an oddsmaker with a pretty remarkable track record of picking political races, I play no favorites. I simply use common sense to call them as I see them. Back in late December I released my New Years Predictions. I predicted back then- before a single GOP primary had been held, with Romney trailing for months to almost every GOP competitor from Rick Perry to Herman Cain to Newt- that Romney would easily rout his competition to win the GOP nomination by a landslide. I also predicted that the Presidential race between Obama and Romney would be very close until election day. But that on election day Romney would win by a landslide similar to Reagan-Carter in 1980.
    Understanding history, today I am even more convinced of a resounding Romney victory. 32 years ago at this moment in time, Reagan was losing by 9 points to Carter. Romney is right now running even in polls. So why do most pollsters give Obama the edge?
    First, most pollsters are missing one ingredient- common sense. Here is my gut instinct. Not one American who voted for McCain 4 years ago will switch to Obama. Not one in all the land. But many millions of people who voted for an unknown Obama 4 years ago are angry, disillusioned, turned off, or scared about the future. Voters know Obama now- and that is a bad harbinger.
    Now to an analysis of the voting blocks that matter in U.S. politics:
    *Black voters. Obama has nowhere to go but down among this group. His endorsement of gay marriage has alienated many black church-going Christians. He may get 88% of their vote instead of the 96% he got in 2008. This is not good news for Obama.
    *Hispanic voters. Obama has nowhere to go but down among this group. If Romney picks Rubio as his VP running-mate the GOP may pick up an extra 10% to 15% of Hispanic voters (plus lock down Florida). This is not good news for Obama.
    Jewish voters. Obama has been weak in his support of Israel. Many Jewish voters and big donors are angry and disappointed. I predict Obama’s Jewish support drops from 78% in 2008 to the low 60’s. This is not good news for Obama.
    *Youth voters. Obama’s biggest and most enthusiastic believers from 4 years ago have graduated into a job market from hell. Young people are disillusioned, frightened, and broke- a bad combination. The enthusiasm is long gone. Turnout will be much lower among young voters, as will actual voting percentages. This not good news for Obama.
    *Catholic voters. Obama won a majority of Catholics in 2008. That won’t happen again. Out of desperation to please women, Obama went to war with the Catholic Church over contraception. Now he is being sued by the Catholic Church. Majority lost. This is not good news for Obama.
    Small Business owners. Because I ran for Vice President last time around, and I’m a small businessman myself, I know literally thousands of small business owners. At least 40% of them in my circle of friends, fans and supporters voted for Obama 4 years ago to “give someone different a chance.” I warned them that he would pursue a war on capitalism and demonize anyone who owned a business…that he’d support unions over the private sector in a big way…that he’d overwhelm the economy with spending and debt. My friends didn’t listen. Four years later, I can’t find one person in my circle of small business owner friends voting for Obama. Not one. This is not good news for Obama.
    *Blue collar working class whites. Do I need to say a thing? White working class voters are about as happy with Obama as Boston Red Sox fans feel about the New York Yankees. This is not good news for Obama.
    *Suburban moms. The issue isn’t contraception…it’s having a job to pay for contraception. Obama’s economy frightens these moms. They are worried about putting food on the table. They fear for their children’s future. This is not good news for Obama.
    *Military Veterans. McCain won this group by 10 points. Romney is winning by 24 points. The more our military vets got to see of Obama, the more they disliked him. This is not good news for Obama.
    Add it up. Is there one major group where Obama has gained since 2008? Will anyone in America wake up on election day saying “I didn’t vote for Obama 4 years ago. But he’s done such a fantastic job, I can’t wait to vote for him today.” Does anyone feel that a vote for Obama makes their job more secure?
    Forget the polls. My gut instincts as a Vegas oddsmaker and common sense small businessman tell me this will be a historic landslide and a world-class repudiation of Obama’s radical and risky socialist agenda. It’s Reagan-Carter all over again.
     
    But I’ll give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.
     

  • RL

    Just making sure to demonstrate why he and the empty suited WH golf course roach are anything but the smartest in the room….

  • owl

    I still say……………..I hate that picture of Grinning Ruth that Politico had up. Scares the bejeevees out of me.

  • dt

    juan williams and martin bashir in one day!

    these are not comments made in jest. not when it comes from the commy/marxists!

  • Granny

    “corrupt tool of Republican right wing”? Somebody needs to let Juan Williams know that four of the nine justices were appointed by either Bill Clinton or The None. The case could just as easily be made that the Supreme Court is a corrupt tool of the communists-inspired progressive Democrats.

  • CatoRenasci

    Juan Williams must be a Republican mole – If Obama goes to war on the Supreme Court in the face of its declaring a deeply unpopular power grab unconstitutional, mmm ‘brer fox, don’t throw me in ‘dat Briar Patch!! The move would be even more unpopular than Roosevelt’s attempt to pack the courts in the ’30s!!

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  • bg

    ++

    OT..

    Earth to Obama et al..

    you really need to chill on calling everyone and everything under the Sun
    RACIST if they do not agree 110% with your IDEOLOGICAL views of what
    the future of America/ns should be..

    ==

  • RobM

    Re: Juan’s advice to Democrats. Just try it! Pull some FDR-style crap PLEASE. I think there is a sizable percentage of libertarians and conservatives that will forget to vote in November. They are not happy with Romney being the nominee… that is , unless this administration continues to pull stunts like they did on Friday with illegals under 30. I predict a pot legalization move before November too. He’ll put it out and force the congress to push back, but it will show he’d do it if reelected, he’ll push it immediately, even by lack of Federal enforcement.

    At some point, every citizen who knows our constitution and loves our country as something worth saving, should look at themselves in the mirror and know that they must vote this administration out. 4 years of a lame-duck Obama will be ruinous and have long-lasting effect.

  • gastorgrab

    They should be shown no mercy when they’re finally out of power. All calls to “reach across the isle” should be ignored!

    Democrats have not just endangered the last 4 years of changes they have made. 30-40 years worth of “Liberal Progress” (Welfare State Expansions) should be given a second look. They should lose ground as a potential consequence of their power grab.

  • Woody

    Briar patch alert!

  • Amash

    Juan Williams must have imbibed in an extra large jug of the lib koolade. He was semi-reasonable at one time. Lately, he’s unhinged. Could he possibly realize that his team ain’t goin make it this time around?

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  • bg

    ++

    #4 June 18, 2012 at 12:24 pm
    Militant conservative

    not only is Ron Paul is Obama’s doppelganger on foreign policy,
    but he wants to bury Israel, ergo, no thank you very much.. 😡

    ==

  • Bill Mitchell

    So, according to Juan, even if the Court believes Obamacare is unconstitutional they must not rule it so?

    These Democrats don’t seem to have much regard for our current form of government.

  • bg

    ++

    sure wish i was as confident in the SC
    upholding the Constitution as Juan is..

    *sigh*

    ==

  • bigL

    worries me that therewas allthisaccomodation and camaraderie between Chief Justice
    roberts and Obama at/after theSwearng in. Remember that Roberst did not say the right order and later Obama took the Oath again w/o the Bible I might add in Roberts’ office.
    just too weird…

  • And 19% still believe Elvis is alive.

  • Mad Hatter

    And this is a surprise?

    This is the typical mindset of the left. If things don’t go their way, they’ll resort to force.

    Almost sounds like the Mob, doesn’t it?

  • dwd

    If you don’t remember anything else when you walk into the voting booth in November, remember this:

    Whoever is elected as President will likely be making Supreme Court appointments during the next term. Those newly appointed justices will serve for decades. If Obama gets to make more appointments, yeah we’ll (hopefully) be rid of him in Jan 2017, but his appointments will linger for decades influencing the American way of life. He’s already put two on there–don’t let him do any more damage, don’t let him influence our future any more than he already has.

  • burt

    Are you mentally chanllenged? Try a career in broadcasting. You can be as stupid as Wolf Blitzer, Larry King, Juan Williams, ______. Fill in the blank. There is no end to these idiots.

  • Mekan

    People keep saying Obama is the worse president since Carter….in fact he is as bad or worse than FDR. I know the left thinks FDR was a great president…but he was not in terms of the republic.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    If Romney picks Rubio as his VP running-mate the GOP may pick up an extra 10% to 15% of Hispanic voters (plus lock down Florida).

    Is it possible for people like this Root guy to cut it out? Please, stop trying to coddle Hispanic voters, and stop giving the idiot Republican “leadership” ideas that coddling Hispanic voters will get them votes. That’s why this amnesty BS manages to keep raising its ugly head time and time again.

    It’s all very simple: There is no guarantee that Republican support of illegal immigrant amnesty initiatives will result a pickup of Hispanic voters, and anyone who thinks this will happen is deluding themselves.

    There’s an established procedure for anyone that wants to come here to live and work. It is NOT unreasonable to expect people to follow it without expecting, demanding, or otherwise agitating for, special treatment.

  • Andrew X

    Count me in B’rer Juan camp. Let ’em try this, oh PLEASE let ’em just try!

    The whole tone of the grievious wounded who just know that all they have to do is raise the leftist flag against that evil court, and the “99%” of the population will rally behind them (hell, even you and I would not be able to resist The People’s rallying cry!) is the exact same thinking and pitch of the Wisconsin left, who just knew that eventually they would win and send Scott Walker slithering across the border like a whipped cur. How could it not be so? That went well.

    So, Juan, I’m right there with you. Attack the constitution Court, those bastards! EVERYBODY will ride with you, count on it! Ya can’t lose! After all, there may be one or two people left who still don’t see the eternal contempt that the left has for the US constitution. Go ahead and force-show that to them as well, and if you wanna use the “eye-dropper movie” technique on them from ‘A Clockwork Orange’, hey, be my guest.

  • bg
  • iamsaved

    I would consider a ruling against Obamacare a redemptive move by the Supreme Court after their disasterous decison on Roe v Wade where they created a new right to privacy out of whole cloth and their decison on property rights in the Kelo case. It’s time they start using the Constitution as their guide and stop trying to make it a living, breathing document that changes with each cultural wind shift.

  • incendiary words-
    time for juan willaims to go elsewhere- other than FOX-

    I’m starting to back off from watching FOX as it is—
    BTW- bring back Judge N…
    C-CS

  • ClinkinKY

    So, in other words, Wayne Allyn Root, is going to give B.O. another vote, by process of elimination. There’s a time and a place for a “protest vote”. November 6,2012 is not it.

  • owl

    #23 Ditto. Your comment is the most important to remember out of all of it.

  • retired militaryq

    I dont think Obama will get 45% of the popular vote or 200 electoral votes.

    In addition, I think Ginsberg and Stevens will retire right after Obamacare decision is announced and this session of SCOTUS is over. That will set up a fight for 2 court nominations that the dems will want to get behind. They will want Obama to appoint 2 age 50ish super libs to try to control the court for years to come.

  • Andrew X

    I get tired of people piling on FOX over a few people like Williams and Beckel.

    If you are not hearing things on a national news network on occasion that piss you off, that upset you, that infuriate, but do in fact represent a substantial segment of American political thought, appalling though it may be, then that network is not doing its job. Period

    The left is marvelous at cocooning. What did Ed Schulz have, 267 Walker opponents, 1 Walker supporter? (and you just know they got a zillion pissed off emails over that one guy). Let them cocoon away. How’s that workin’ out for them?

    If you aren’t hearing your adversary, how in God’s name do you expect to beat them, especially one so embedded in the culture and academia, who are experts at dressing up the most outrageous nonsense and outright totalitarianism in pretty words, pictures and sounds? Ya gonna hide from them and hope for the best?

    This latest from Juan Williams is outrageous, despicable, and just plain dumb. I hope to hear more of the same from him and his ilk. Cockroaches – Light.

  • owl

    #29 Yep. When they went so far that they can take your property just because they think someone else should have it. I understand when it is a small bit of land for lines, etc but that was bad enough. It is legalized stealing.

    This is death panels.

  • owl

    #33 No problem for Obama………….he will just appoint them.

    Who is to stop him?

  • Bill Mitchell

    The thing that I find most disappointing in this story is that Juan Williams makes a lot of money on FoxNews simply by being a complete idiot.

  • owl

    #26 “That’s why this amnesty BS manages to keep raising its ugly head time and time again.”

    Nope. Sorry. This is closer to Social Security going broke. It is going to happen unless something happens to stop it.

    I read your comment on another thread that said to seal the borders and then start sending them back. The problem is “it’s ugly head”. It is ugly. These are people and not numbers. I actually know some that were brought here as babies that are clueless about Mexico.

    That makes it ugly. I have wanted something done since Reagan and zip. I watch it get bigger and bigger and now I have to listen to Spanish before English to order meds?

    Republicans make me very angry on this subject because there is stupid and then there is stupid. Why could we not have at least salvaged a few voters under Bush instead of pushing all off into the Dem camp? The end result will be the same except we lose on both ends.

  • WTFPRESIDENT

    Where’s the civility that the left is always saying that conservatives need..I haven’t heard 1 conservative say we should blow up the supreme court if they don’t vote our way.

  • mcc

    If I read him correctly, JW, while agreeing with it, is only repeating what he’s heard/sensed the Dems plan to do:

    Team Obama is right to conclude there is fertile political ground to be plowed in lashing out against the right-wing activism of the Roberts Court.

    Try not to puke at the 2nd half of that statement. The first half was bad enough. We’re polarized as a nation by the LIES of the LEFT — to include, of course, the invaluable aid of the MSM.

    Foreign to the Left, i.e. Dems (that would be you, Juan), is the very real possibility that a man might make a decision based not on what it might do to his “reputation” (as you put it), but on what is RIGHT and lawful.

    For God’s sake, people, look at how these people think. What they’re willing to do to win. Win at all costs! Destroy whatever – whomever – is in your way. Look up TUCC’s Donald Young, if you’re clueless.

    Republicans had better be prepared to go on the offensive to expose the lies the Dems and Team BO will be telling to further mislead Americans.

    Lord God, wash us clean of this filth.

  • Brandon In Baton Rouge

    “In addition, I think Ginsberg and Stevens will retire right after Obamacare decision is announced and this session of SCOTUS is over.”

    Stevens is retired. I think you mean Breyer instead, as the “Wise Latina” and Kagan are fresh appointments.

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  • john b

    That blowup-the-system button,….a bitter attack on the current court as a corrupt tool of the Republican right wing.”
    HaHaHa….. elena Kagan, Ginsburg, Sotomayor — all despicable lefties.

  • gerr

    This guy stuffs his shoulders. Who can take him seriously?

  • Mario

    I believe Glenn Beck did us all a diservice by insisting that juan be hired by fox news, this fool should be sitting on some freeway off ramp begging for money to eat. When are we as conservatives going to learn to fight back?

  • owl

    What I have noticed is he is getting more desperate. He called Malkin ‘a blogger’ a few days back and really having a fuss of it with others. He is really scared that Obama will lose. Good. He still has a way to go before he gets on a par with Sheppard Smith.

    Sheppard Smith is the completely bonko lib at FOX. You can put him up against any you can find at MSNBC or CNN. Shep wins because he is Dianne Sawyer. They do the real damage.

  • aprilnovember811

    Excuse me, but he should be fired for this stunt. This is an outrage.

  • In a socialist/marxist Utopia, there is no Supreme Court.
    Just a Supreme Ruler.

    The only reason Obama gives a fig about the SCOTUS ruling on healthcare is because a win may help him get those 4 more years he needs to fulfil the dreams of his father.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    This is closer to Social Security going broke. It is going to happen unless something happens to stop it.

    Then the lawmakers need to get real, grow a pair, and tackle the problem, because amnesty just puts off the day of reckoning; it doesn’t solve the problem.

  • Lan Astaslem

    It is unfortunate that poor ol’ Juan didn’t learn his lesson after being shoved out of NPR. He mistakenly believes that attacking conservative positions, badmouthing conservative bloggers, and continuing to act as a loyal democratic tool, will somehow magically ingratiate him back into the liberal cocktail circuit. What he fails to understand is that once he was demoted on the democratic plantation from house servant to field hand there is no going back. The elites on the left tolerate blacks like Juan because they provide a modicum of legitimacy to their asinine beliefs. Truth be told, that when pushing comes to shoving, Juan’s liberal “colleagues” in the MSM wouldn’t piss on the best part of him. All that stepin and fetchin is for naught. What a sad spectacle.

  • YourMaster

    yes…. because thuggery worked so damn well to win voters over to the Democrats in Wisconsin. Ahahahahahahaha….

    let them try force on the courts…. The Supreme Court will humiliate 0bama and his cronies for it even more …and dems will look like idiots in the process….
    which will earn dems another backlash in 2012

    ….I am starting to believe Democrats don’t live in reality….
    sure they exist here… …but their minds are so deranged and so far gone…
    it’s like they are in a coma… or in a dream-like delusional state 24/7

    ….they need to do a study of the brains of the left… and find out why they are so deranged beyond rational thought.

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  • valerie

    Obama is the candidate supported by the people who want to “F*ck the System,” so of course they think, not just in terms of changing things, but blowing things up.

    Stupid, but true.

  • owl

    #49 If a person was brought here as a 4 year old and then has a brother and sister that are legal American citizens, what are you, #49 going to do?

  • valerie

    Ok, I just re-read the article, and I can’t find anything wrong with what Juan Williams is saying. I am fairly well certain that this possibility is being discussed right now, in those terms. And you know that, despite the earlier name for this tactic “packing the Court,” it’s being call a “nuclear option” because that’s a phrase that cliche thinkers like to use right now.

    And, this is what I expect Obama to try to do, should the Supreme Court wholly strike down his signature legislation, as they have been invited do do by the failure of Congress to include a severability clause.

    I think, though, that Democratic voters are not going to rally in support of this legislative monstrosity, particularly in light of the provisions that have been publicized since it was passed, and also in light of moves by the insurances companies to make it easier for parents to include their young adult children on the family policy. Think about the recent elections in Wisconsin, where the governor survived recall, and in California, where the voters turned down an increase in the tax on cigarettes. Contrary to what the radicals think, American voters are not stupid.

  • valerie

    #51 June 18, 2012 at 4:46 pm
    YourMaster commented:

    This is not the Democratic Party I grew up with: At the national level the “F*ck the System” radicals are in charge — for the moment.

  • Patty

    That blowup-the-system button, not pushed since FDR’s attempt to stack the court with Democrats during the New Deal, is for Obama to use the bully pulpit of the White House, and the national stage of a presidential campaign, to launch a bitter attack on the current court as a corrupt tool of the Republican right wing.
    It is a move that could energize Democrats and independents even as Republicans celebrate a major legal victory.
    ___________________

    dream on!!!

  • Patty

    Obama should be impeached. And I still don’t understand why he hasn’t. Yes, you need a majority vote in House and Senate but it is something that needs to be considered if this article is true.

  • Patty

    [..]

    In Obama’s case, he pre-emptively slammed the Supreme Court as a bunch of an “unelected group of people” who would have turned to “judicial activism or a lack of judicial restraint” if they decide to strike down his signature legislative achievement, the Healthcare Reform Act.

    Obama touted the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, as “a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress. Further, he stated, “I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress.”

    It is apparent that Obama’s counsel to the Supreme Court was a political ploy to gain populist support in order to prevent them from striking down Obamacare. In actuality, it was a veiled threat, a WARNING that the Court must not go against the will of the duly elected People’s Congress because of the tyranny of a few select judges who are not elected officials.

    His threat is not unlike that of a Mafia boss who menaces another criminal enterprise that dares to invade its rival’s territory. But this encroachment into Obama’s turf was not from a criminal enterprise. It was from the Supreme Court whose Judges are authorized by Congress to determine if laws they pass, when challenged, comply with our Constitutional guidelines that protect our nation from laws that support governmental tyranny.

    Lincoln and Roosevelt each took positions similar to Obama’s regarding the Supreme Court’s overreach, yet neither ever labeled Supreme Court Justices “unelected officials.” To call these Justices ‘unelected officials’ is to challenge their authority to overturn laws passed by duly elected officials.

    Obama’s overreach attacked our Constitution at its core, the system of checks and balances, the front line of defense to prevent the rise of a tyrant uncontested authority would give him free reign to govern us. This is the final impediment Obama knew he must overcome to achieve his goal of absolute power.
    […} READ MUCH MORE HERE: http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/zir/120611

  • Patty

    Remember: Obama: I need 4 more years to finish the job. Now, if that doesn’t sound like Chicago mob nothing does.

  • valerie

    #58 June 18, 2012 at 7:30 pm
    Patty commented:

    The standard is “high crimes or misdemeanors” — which is distinct from policy disagreements. Threatening to pack the Supreme Court is not a crime. A third-rate burglary is a crime. Lying under oath is a crime.

    I think that refusing to enforce the nation’s gun-control laws, in order to allow guns to travel across our borders, for the purpose of having those guns used in crimes such as murder, for the purpose of increasing public support for stronger gun-control laws, where the guns in question do result in murders — qualifies as a crime. Rep. Issa is working on that one, and so far, he doesn’t have proof of presidential involvement, or the intent. Getting that kind of proof takes time.

    I think that using taxpayer money in a kickback scheme for political bundlers is a crime. So far, we have some facts, but not quite enough proof to nail it down. Again, the process is slow.

    I don’t think Barack Obama will be impeached, unless he wins the next election. But if he does win, he will be impeached. This situation is shaping up just like the second terms of Nixon and Clinton.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    If a person was brought here as a 4 year old and then has a brother and sister that are legal American citizens, what are you, #49 going to do?

    Brother and sister can stay if they wish, however, if they’re minors, they need to either find relatives to stay with or find a host family. On the subject of the four-year-old, the kid can either go back with the parents, or stay with its siblings.

    But the parents go back.

  • Patty

    OT

    Biden Say’s He’s Not Blue Collar: “No One in my Family Worked in a Factory”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn9jY9nlj1k

    And listen to good Old JOE!!

  • Patty

    #61

    Great Post. But nothing is going to happen to Eric Withholder. Not this year. I see a lot of pandering going on. The whistle blower came out today on Fox and said that it has taken months to do something. Issa is working hard but I don’t see a good outcome. Sorry, but I am very much a pessimist on this one.

    And yes, with a majority in the house and senate and Obama is elected again, nothing but Vetoes and Executive orders til the cows come home.

  • StrangernFiction

    #34 June 18, 2012 at 2:00 pm
    Andrew X commented:

    Supporting media that allows you to hear your adversary is one thing, supporting media that gives credence to the nonsensical and vile opinions of your adversary is something else entirely. Reading this blog is doing the former, watching Fox News is doing the latter.

  • valerie

    Patty, Here’s an update:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/233257-holder-and-issa-to-meet-on-tuesday

    I do see a good outcome. I see Obama as a one-term President, and a Republican takeover of the Senate, plus the House staying in Republican/Independent control.

    Then, unfortunately, I see the distinct possibility that a different set of pigs will feed at the trough. I hope not.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    I see the distinct possibility that a different set of pigs will feed at the trough.

    With the current “leadership” of the Republican Party and all the RINOs that have been allowed to populate its ranks, count on it.

  • Rose

    Juan Williams is a real Bill Ayers/Al Sharpton kind of Dim. I wish I could say how shocked I am. SO LOL!

  • Rose

    Re Dim Party – FACT: A BAD TREE CANNOT BEAR GOOD FRUIT!

    Matthew 7:17. Even so, every healthy (sound) tree bears good fruit [ worthy of admiration], but the sickly (decaying, worthless) tree bears bad (worthless) fruit.

    Matthew 7:18. A good (healthy) tree cannot bear bad (worthless) fruit, nor can a bad (diseased) tree bear excellent fruit [worthy of admiration].

  • Patty

    #66 June 18, 2012 at 8:55 pm
    valerie commented:

    Patty, Here’s an update:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/233257-holder-and-issa-to-meet-on-tuesday

    I do see a good outcome. I see Obama as a one-term President, and a Republican takeover of the Senate, plus the House staying in Republican/Independent control.

    Then, unfortunately, I see the distinct possibility that a different set of pigs will feed at the trough. I hope not.
    __________
    😆 Seeing is believing. We know Obama but others aren’t paying on bit of attention.

  • owl

    #62 I do not have a problem with that answer. There needs to be a pathway to citizenship for even the parents ………………IF……………….they have lived here 15-20 years, worked, did not have any criminal record. Penalties and such can be imposed on any future benefits.

    You notice Obama said 16 yr? No, it should be absolutely under 10 yr.

    First before anything happens, the border needs to be sealed and a plan put in place to have everyone in this country documented.

    Then, get rid of teaching Spanish in our schools and teach English. This has been allowed to go on for too long and it is NOT just a “enforce the law” issue. Repubs make a grave error by continuing to treat it as such. FIX the LAWS that were never enforced, acknowlege that by not enforcing, it created years of other problems. FIX those issues and then ENFORCE the law. It is the only real solution.

    You can not ignore that the US government ignored their laws for years and created this mess. I tell you Reagan opened the floodgates. Before that, it was a trickle that became a flood. That was many years ago.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    I tell you Reagan opened the floodgates. Before that, it was a trickle that became a flood. That was many years ago.

    I can probably forgive Reagan for doing what he did, because I suspect he was operating under the impression the amnesty he agreed to would be a one-time thing, and that border enforcement would be maintained and strengthened.

    But since the Reagan amnesty, there have been seven amnesties since. One amnesty may not have much of an effect, but what’s likely to happen if people knew or were confident that more were coming?