Damage Control: Obama Called Black Pastors After Announcing Support for Gay Marriage


In churches and synagogues around the country this weekend, President Obama’s historic public support for same-sex marriage has been a hot topic — especially in African-American churches. (Yahoo)

Barack Obama called black pastors last week after announcing his support for gay marriage.
The New York Times reported:

About two hours after declaring his support for same-sex marriage last week, President Obama gathered eight or so African-American ministers on a conference call to explain himself. He had struggled with the decision, he said, but had come to believe it was the right one.

The ministers, though, were not all as enthusiastic. A vocal few made it clear that the president’s stand on gay marriage might make it difficult for them to support his re-election.

“They were wrestling with their ability to get over his theological position,” said the Rev. Delman Coates, the pastor of Mt. Ennon Baptist Church in Clinton, Md., who was on the call.

In the end, Mr. Coates, who supports civil marriages for gay men and lesbians, said that most of the pastors, regardless of their views on this issue, agreed to “work aggressively” on behalf of the president’s campaign. But not everyone. “Gay marriage is contrary to their understanding of Scripture,” Mr. Coates said. “There are people who are really wrestling with this.”

In the hours following Mr. Obama’s politically charged announcement on Wednesday, the president and his team embarked on a quiet campaign to contain the possible damage among religious leaders and voters. He also reached out to one or more of the five spiritual leaders he calls regularly for religious guidance, and his aides contacted other religious figures who have been supportive in the past.

The damage-control effort underscored the anxiety among Mr. Obama’s advisers about the consequences of the president’s revised position just months before what is expected to be a tight re-election vote.

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  • BlackBush

    Blacks will vote for obama. Doesnt matter. Its just a political flip flop to get another 1% of the population. Guy is scum

  • Fuquay Steve

    but did he offer them $150K for keeping their mouths shut?

  • MamaGriz68

    It is very disheartening to hear a pastor say he will still support Obama. Skin color trumps faith. I was foolishly hoping these “men of God” would stand by God’s truth and put politics to the side. Would like to see the IRS sicked on these pastors if they use their pulpits to pimp for Obama though. Wait, that’s more foolish thinking, isn’t it?

  • Mac in NM

    Ditto’s #1, #2, and #3. It is all about skin color with these people. But then it’s a ‘black thing’, we wouldn’t understand.

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  • jorgen

    Yes, it is about skin color so they are racist as we already knew.

  • Brandon In Baton Rouge

    It’s not a question of whether Obama will get 95% or more of the black vote.

    It’s a question of whether that black vote will turn out in a big way like in 2008.

    If black turnout is depressed because of this, it will likely end up costing Obama a ton of votes he needs in Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, etc.

  • The fact that these pastors are “wrestling” with this topic is evidence that their allegiance to God is divided. And a divided house will fall. (Luke 11:17) Scripture is clear that marriage is between one man and one woman. It is to be a spiritual picture of Gods relationship with His people Israel, and the Gentiles who are being grafted in (Romans 11). If we support marriage between men and other men, and women and other women, this reflects nothing of the Name of God and His nature and character. This is why it is such an important concern to God. If pastors cannot stand for truth as declared in Scripture, they are no longer under grace but under wrath. 1 Timothy 4 is being fulfilled as we speak, “Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons”

    God help this country. He is coming soon..

  • iamsaved

    Jos 24:15
    15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

  • BlackBush

    Would that make barry satan then?

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  • bg

    ++

    so, where’s Pastor Manning??

    here & here & here & here..

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  • Finncrisp

    This is a slap in the face to evangelical , family oriented Black churchgoers. Question is will they simply stay home rather than vote for one of their own, despite his pro abortion, gay embracing strategy? Comes on the heels of his showdown with the Catholic church over Obamacare. Barry appears to be certain he can win without these groups.

    Key question – will Integrity trump traditional voting tendencies?

  • bg

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    unfortunately much closer to the truth than the satirical intent..

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  • MN Jim

    obama could grow horns and a tail and the blacks would still vote for him.

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  • retirred military

    Why does he care about the black pastors? He will get 90%+ of the black vote anyway.

    Nothing will change that.

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  • middleagedhousewife

    I watched GLEE a couple weeks ago, decided I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. Now I realize that Hollywood is pushing DIVERSITY on our youth – and by diversity I mean flamboyant homosexuality – so I expected that. I did not expect to see a couple that are attempting to refrain from sex as a commitment to abstinence. Well, in one scene, the guy goes into the locker room and sees his friend there, a friend who, it appears, is also not ‘playing the field’ but obviously a bit more loose about his commitment than the first guy. Anyway, the first guy is confessing how difficult it is to remain sexually pure like the Bible suggests/demands/whatever and the other guy tells him that (paraphrasing) “hey, that was a long time ago. things are much different now so it’s not so important anymore.” The troubled guy so, Oh, cool! and everything’s all good. Handshake, Bro hug, end of scene.
    I guess Hollywood’s no longer got a corner on the anti-Bible market.

  • Jayne on Left Coast

    Where are all the screaming ‘separation of Church and State” folks. The ones who say the Catholic Church should lose tax exempt status for denouncing Zero’s birth control mandate. Oh yeah, Black churches are okay to preach politics.

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  • owl

    Yep. One of the most depressing things ever but we know it is true. What do you expect when you have people like Wright, Jackson and Sharpton call themselves Rev? They have never seperated church and state but always brought politics into the pulpit.

    The group votes skin color. If that is not racism, I do not know what it is called.

    I still think this thing is being sold as a civil rights issue and therefore it gives the black churches cover. It gives all liberals cover for all that is Obama. I read that Breitbart has the goods on Obama, but do not think it matters. This is their issue and they will have huge media campaigns on this one issue. This is the only thing big enough that they can beat all the way until Nov and they expect to stir their wars to a fever pitch that will make the liberals come out and vote.

    Occupy got too stinky. Civil rights is much better cover for media bias in your face. Must make your base forget they do not have jobs.

  • bg

    ++

    it’s an irrational civil rights claim..

    homosexuals can get married.. just not to one another, civil unions
    for legalities sake are fine by me, however, changing the definition
    of marriage
    would render it obsolete.. 🙁

    i find it totally ironic that HOMOSEXUALS went from STAY OUT
    OF OUR BEDROOMS to INVADING HETEROSEXUAL BEDROOMS..

    ps;

    imho, if homosexuals worked half as hard at establishing separate but
    equal rights for themselves as they have trying to usurp heterosexual
    marriage, perhaps they would get where they want to go a heck of a
    lot sooner..

    imho, the biggest mistake we ever made was
    considering homosexuality a religious factor..

    again, imho one cannot build on a fractured foundation, and that would
    be exactly what homosexuals would be building on once they demolished
    the fundamental foundation “heterosexual marriage” was built on..

    ==

  • Objective Analysis

    He was going to loose the election. Now, this will be a rout. Conservative America which includes many blacks put their faith before a charlatan. Obama is bi-sexual/gay and NY Times is trying to use proganda to turn this around.

    You don’t loose in Rasmussen 50%(Romney) to 42%(Obama). This is going to be a conservative value election along with the Economy. It is over for the Anti-Christ.

  • Maureen

    Which God will these choose to follow?

  • squeaky

    are gays fighting for the right to get married while straights are choosing to stay single? that subject came up recently [which i forgot about] until discussions of gay marriage reminded me.
    http://www.boundlessline.org/2010/10/more-emerging-adults-single-than-married.html

  • There are some genuine spiritual Black Christian Pastors who put their faith in Christ above
    their loyalty to Barack Obama or anyone else. But they are few and far between.
    His endorsement of Gay marriage will show who they are.

  • bg

    ++

    b-bu-but don’t DEMONcRATS claim ‘GAY PRIESTS’
    are the major pedophilia problem in the world?? /s/

    ped stats

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  • mcc

    Tony Perkins of the conservative Christian Family Research Council was contacted – following this announcement by BO – by numerous pastors “Black and White” who told him they would no longer be “sitting on the fence.” (Heard on Laura Ingraham’s radio show this AM)

    He’s cooked his goose.

    I think alot of Blacks will simply stay home if they can’t vote against him…and Whites who wouldn’t have voted for Romney will actually turn out instead of refusing to vote for him.

    Stay faithful, Christians, and pray. God is never short on creative ways of answering our prayers. Let’s hope it’s a peaceful turnover of power — and, in the best of circumstances, the eyes of the blind are opened to Truth.

  • Tee

    What A damn ashame! ..liberal blacks are going to vote for this A-hole! regardless of his stance. You really think, that liberal blacks didn’t know his stance prior? Christian liberals blacks,white and brown have forgotten about the scripture and what it means. They have become depraved minds and have capitulated to accept mans laws. Most of which is contrary to God’s laws. I understand, as christian it’s not easy to follow the word. “But, we must make a effort to enter Gods rest”. But, to accept a muslim president and homosexuality in your heart that’s just plain christian irresponsibility. My opinion, these micro-wave black Christians liberals have been mentally and emotionally violated by the democratic party and so-called black leaders in the last 60yrs…they have no objective thoughts of their on anymore.

  • Tee

    What A damn ashame! ..liberal blacks are going to vote for this A-hole! regardless of his stance. You really think, that liberal blacks didn’t know his stance prior? Christian liberals blacks,white and brown have forgotten about the scripture and what it means. They have become depraved minds and have capitulated to accept mans laws. Most of which is contrary to God’s laws. I understand, as christian it’s not easy to follow the word. “But, we must make a effort to enter Gods rest”. But, to accept a muslim president and homosexuality in your heart that’s just plain christian irresponsibility. My opinion, these micro-wave black Christians liberals have been mentally and emotionally violated by the democratic party and so-called black pastors and leaders in the last 60yrs…they have no objective thoughts of their on anymore.

  • bg

    ++

    Sharpton, Jackson and Obama speak for all Black people
    just as much as CAIR speaks for all Muslims, they don’t..

    DOMA

    President Clinton’s statement on DOMA

    Obama in 2004 on gay marriage: Marriage is not a civil right

    Extended federal pension benefits to include same-sex couples.

    Although President Bush’s rhetoric has often been troubling, he has yet to change a single federal policy in a way that detrimentally affects LGBT Americans. Couple this with a 2006 bill he signed that gave non- spousal couples the same federal pension standards as married couples, his decision to appoint an openly gay man as U.S. ambassador to Romania, his refusal to turn lesbian and gay families away from the White House Easter egg hunt, his decision not to overturn President Clinton’s executive order banning federal employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, and his warm words about the vice-president’s daughter and her family, and you have an administration that is not as homophobic as many had feared it would be.]

    imho, the 2006 bill does pertain to “civil rights”..

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  • Barbara Person

    @ BlackBush: Not all Blacks voted or will vote for Obama. I DID NOT in 2008 and I WILL NOT in 2012! The general population that votes needs to do their homework on the candidates they wish to vote for in November. I personally don’t like either one of them. At least we think we know the “devil” we have in the White House now. No telling what we will get in November. Get out of the Democratic party mode (thats’ the way most Black representatives want you to vote.) I will NOT be politically correct for NO ONE! Christians need to get on their knees, and vote according to Biblical principals.

  • CommieJuice

    @ #33 Barbara

    You are right. Not all of blacks will vote for 0bama, just 95% or more. That would be 19 out of 20. I salute you for being a free thinking individual as opposed to the other 19 who are black before they are male/female, Christian/Other, American and racists who think it’s better to have half black than 100% white. You remind me of Barbara who calls Mark Levin.

  • Some retrospective:

    ‘And then the door opened behind me and I turned around and saw a young tall thin black man looking at me. I recognized the face but wasn’t sure of the name right away, but was pretty sure he was someone important. I told him I was just using the bathroom but knew I must have looked very embarrassed. He just stared at me for what seemed like forever. There was just enough light in that hall that I could see that his eyes were not really “right”. I thought he was probably drunk. Then his eyes seemed to suddenly clear up and become a lot more focused and he looked down at me and he gave a big smile. He asked me if I was ok. I looked down to his belt which was undone and I could see that his dress shirt was not tucked into his pants. When I looked back up at his face the smile was long gone. He looked really angry at me now. He asked me again if I was ok but he said it in a way that really spooked me. There was something in his voice that scared me. Really bad. And it was at that exact moment I finally recognized his face as the author and political candidate Barack Obama. I was just about to turn and walk as fast as I could out of the hallway when the door opened wider and another black man’s face poked out. He said, “What the F is going on B?” The guy I now recognized as Obama stepped all the way out of the hall and closed the door behind him, leaving the other man inside the conference room. He asked me again if I was all right. Now he was standing right over me. He smiled again and I noticed one of his front teeth seemed to have a chip in it, or it was a lot shorter than the other one. He must have had work done because the picturesof him today don’t show that. I don’t know why I noticed that so much or why it has stuck with me but it has. And his breath smelled really bad. It made me want to gag it was so bad. I told him I was fine and did a kind of half walk half run down the hall and back into the main lobby. I looked back right before I turned the corner and could make out Barack Obama still standing in the darkness of the hallway looking back at me. It was very very creepy.

    I didn’t really make much out of it. I mentioned it in a joking way to some friends that I had interrupted some guys going at it in a conference room but never mentioned the name Obama when I did. Then I forgot about it pretty much until I was watching the news and saw that Obama was running for U.S. Senator. I figured whatever he was doing in his private life was hisbusiness though, and didn’t want to make any trouble for him. I actually agreed with his politics and voted for him. If he was gay or bisexual, I really could have cared less. Whatever issues he had with that were between him and his family and none of my business right? That’s how I felt. So I forgot all about what I saw on that night again. And I hardly thought of it when I heard Barack Obama was running for president.’

    Sex and Murder in The Land of Obama?

  • Patty

    Today a caller on Rush said she was a lesbian and didn’t believe in gay marriage. She said that civil unions were better and gave various reasons. It was a great conversation and I must say, even the host thought the call was one of the best he received, ever. And he has listen to many callers.

    Kudos to her for her great words. Very remarkable woman, indeed.

  • JC

    OBAMA – “Look guys, after the election I’ll have more room to manuever.”

  • Blue Hen

    He’s playing percentages, and doing it well. He won’t pay any price in the media. He’ll try to buy off black interest groups the same way hs’s been doing it; with our tax monies. At worst, some will choose to stay home rather than vote. But most who were inclinced to vote will do so anyway. Especially when we’ve already seen the left attack Catholics an Mormons and ignore muslims and black churches. In the worst case scenario (for him) he’ll lose, and the spin will be that he bravely stood for the forces of progress and paid a dear price for it. Tripe, but it simply follows what they’ve been peddling for years.

  • the people pushing the hardest for gay marriage are the divorce lawyers.

  • bg

    ++

    Patty #36 May 14, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    know, and have known of a few people like her over the years myself,
    then there’s my spastic niece, love her to death, but i suppose there
    are just no ifs ands or buts about my evilness towards gays because i
    oppose same-sex “marriage”.. *sigh*

    ==

  • averagemelon

    Marriage has been around long, long, long before the USA in 2012. It has a definition in the Bible and gays cannot conform to it. Attempting to “marry” is debasing and ridiculing God’s word and a severe affront to all true Christians and Jews. If gays want some sort of bonding that is lawful and “equal” to marriage, they MUST NOT CALL IT MARRIAGE and it should never occur in a Christian church. I don’t really care what the states adopt to meet this need but MARRIAGE is done by God Himself and He knows whom he marries.

  • obama is a mole

    Those who believe in me will hear me…I’m telling you we are being tested..and many will
    fail the test. Poor danny young and Larry Sinclair. Its like a virus that’s spreading through Hollywood..spreading to our schools, media making it OK for our youth. Next its animals..they’ll fight to marry children then their dogs…I’ve never seen so much muck, mob beatings, atheists, just do anything you want–its upside down. They put him in office and all evil freaks are crawling out of this huge dark hole-excited that he wears a dark veil. He looks like a devil–
    Its scary knowing that there is so, so many who believe in “nothing”..the ME generation–
    Hollow..yes, all who stand by him stand by infantcide, and go against GODs word..they will be accountable–for what is in their hearts.

  • bg

    ++

    A Moral Wrong Is Not A Civil Right

    [Destructive guilt tactics

    According to Reese, bringing guilt and manipulation on others is exactly what homosexuals are trying to do by claiming their agenda is a civil rights issue. “Though American culture has certainly not completely embraced the civil rights movement, there is a great deal of respect for it,” he says. “So what better way, what more convenient vehicle to advance the homosexual agenda than civil rights?”

    Rev. Ronnie Wallace, a retired African American pastor who was born and raised in the South, agrees that homosexuals’ use of civil-rights-language is insidious. “Anyone can look at what was happening during the civil rights movement – the brutality that men were willing to inflict on other men because of their color – anyone can look at that and see that it was wrong,” he says. And it’s that sentiment, according to Wallace, which homosexuals are trying to align themselves with.

    But Wallace says that’s an impossible alignment. He says homosexuals can’t legitimately compare their agenda to the civil rights movement because homosexuality is a behavior one chooses while race is a color one is born with. “I am black,” Wallace says. “I was born black. And I can get up and declare that I’m not black, but it won’t make one bit of difference.” Homosexuals, on the other hand, consciously choose their lifestyle, he says. “And to make this a civil rights issue is trying to say that this is something they cannot control, and that’s not true.”]

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  • bg

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    Same-Sex “Marriage” Is Not a Civil Right

    [To recognize in law the distinct character of a marriage relationship, which entails sexual intercourse, involves no discrimination of a civil rights kind against those whose bonds do not include sexual intercourse. Those who choose to live together in life-long homosexual relationships; or brothers and sisters who live together and take care of one another; or two friends of the same sex who are not sexually involved but share life together in the same home—all of these may be free to live as they do, and they suffer no civil rights discrimination by not being identified as marriages. There is no civil rights discrimination against an eight-year-old youngster who is denied the right to enter into marriage. There is no civil rights discrimination being practiced against a youngster who is not allowed the identity of a college student because she is not qualified to enter college. There is no civil-rights discrimination involved when the law refuses to recognize my auto club as a church. A marriage and a homosexual relationship are two different kinds of relationships and it is a misuse of civil rights law to use that law to try to blot out the difference between two different kinds of things.

    [..]

    If this happens, we will need to pay close attention to the consequences. Judges and public officials will then be required to recognize as a marriage any sexually Intimate bond between two people who want to call themselves married. Which means that there will no longer be any basis for distinguishing legally between a heterosexual union and a homosexual relationship. Which means henceforth that there will be no legal basis for restrictions against a homosexual couple obtaining children in any way they choose, for such restrictions would constitute discrimination. And it will mean that when a mature mother and son, or father and daughter, or trio or quartet of partners come to the courts or to the marriage-license bureau to ask that their sexually active relationship be recognized as marriage, there will be no legal grounds of a non-arbitrary kind to reject the requests. Because if it is now arbitrary and unjust to recognize heterosexual marriage as something exclusive and different from homosexual relationships, then it will be arbitrary and unjust not to grant the request of other partners to call their sexually intimate and enduring relationships marriage.]

    link & more @ link..

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  • Jack

    Barack Obama: You have to vote for me because I’m black.

    Black Pastor: No, I don’t, and nor does my congregation.

    Barack Obama: Racist!

  • wendy

    Last election I was shocked that some christian friends of mine were voting for him. They happened to be black. When I questioned how a christain could vote for a man who supported partial birth abortion this is the exact words one said, “As a christian I can’t but as am American I can!” I was speechless! My faith comes before everything else, Period! But I guess that is not the norm these days. God help us.

  • Jay-Mac

    “most of the pastors, regardless of their views on this issue, agreed to “work aggressively” on behalf of the president’s campaign”

    Hang on a second- doesn’t that mean that each of these pastor’s churches should automatically loose their tax-exempt status?

    Aren’t they supposed to be serving God and not campaigning for a Democrat President (whose policies have been disastrous for the black community)?

  • Limousine Barry

    I struggled with Barney Frank’s decision to marry another man. But, I sucked it up and adjusted my butt plug. I decided it was the right thing to do.

    I gave Barney my blessing and a hard wedgie. Then I called a group of eight black pastors and explained that their gay marriage fees would sky-rocket. So, they agreed to support gay marriage and even offered to perform Barney Frank’s gay marriage ceremony.

    Let me be clear, Barney and I will still be doing the fund raising events for gay bundlers. So, nothing has changed… unless the Barney’s rectal warts get worse.

    My limousine is belching fumes and Barney is in the back seat. Sure, gay marriage sucks but so do I. Good day.

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  • mg4us

    It’s all about the economy. .

    Obama falling or is that failing in a CBS poll with more Democrats polled
    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/05/14/nytcbs-poll-romney-46-obama-43/

    And Obama now loosing the women
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/14/romney-winning-womens-vote-against-obama

    Obama — It’s the Economy Stupid. . .

    And all these wars and phony issues are waking up the silent majority.

    November 2010 landslide will look like a rain-shower compared to the Tsunami coming this November.

    Church going black folks need to open their eyes and come to the right side not the Wright side.

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  • Paul-N

    I am black and I would never vote for Obama, however please don’t say that black people voting for Obama is racism. I would agree that many black people are blinded by his skin color and have not looked at his agenda, however lets not forget that there has never been a black president in history and black people have been oppressed througout, it is what it is. So please, my white brothers and sister’s, don’t allow your anger to miss what is at the heart of the matter.

    With that being said, those of us who call in The Name of The LORD should know better and not allow colour to trump our faith. The fact that many of these Pastors are wrestling with the issue is confusing and sickening.

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