Stunner. Georgetown “Coed” Sandra Fluke Is a 30 Year-Old Women’s Rights Activist

What a shock! It was all a BIG PRODUCTION!
The Democrat’s token abused college coed is actually a 30 year-old hardcore women’s rights activist.

Sandra Fluke is also the past president of Law Students for Reproductive Justice.

Jammie Wearing Fool reported:

I put that in quotes because in the beginning she was described as a Georgetown law student. It was then revealed that prior to attending Georgetown she was an active women’s right advocate. In one of her first interviews she is quoted as talking about how she reviewed Georgetown’s insurance policy prior to committing to attend, and seeing that it didn’t cover contraceptive services, she decided to attend with the express purpose of battling this policy. During this time, she was described as a 23-year-old coed. Magically, at the same time Congress is debating the forced coverage of contraception, she appears and is even brought to Capitol Hill to testify. This morning, in an interview with Matt Lauer on the Today show, it was revealed that she is 30 years old, NOT the 23 that had been reported all along.

In other words, folks, you are being played. She has been an activist all along and the Dems were just waiting for the appropriate time to play her.

Unreal. This was all just a big dishonest Democrat ploy to take the attention off of Barack Obama’s assault on religious freedom.
It figures.

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  • Fuquay Steve

    Rumor has it she’s a man.

  • MoreLiberty

    I have to admit Hoft, this is a decent article. You show situation, and debunk the lie/half-truth. Also, I’m glad you didn’t put the usual “It Begins…” phrase you so love to use.

  • Redwine

    So she really is an activist whore.

  • OxyCon

    I bet her name is all a fluke too!

  • lonestar

    Next, we’ll find out she works for Pelosi. She is 30 years old. How did she spend those extra 5 years?

  • Highlander

    Oh for Pete’s sake … is there any length to which these people won’t go to advance their agenda?

  • dba…vagabond trader

    Democrats, party of lying whores.

  • pink tie Republican

    Tghis plain Jane skeezer ain’t gonna need no contraxception, as no man in his right mind would give her any play.

  • patman

    The WALK OF SHAME poster girl!!!!

  • nunya

    Just because she’s 30 doesn’t mean she’s not in law school, morons.

  • Justice Beaver

    And now we’ll have to suffer through all the demon-crat gyrations trying to keep this in the news, insult conservatives, and to demonize Rush.

  • Carol D’Auria

    This incredibly stupid person has assured herself of a lifetime reputation.

    For men, their No. 1 question, “Where’s the line form?”

  • Luddite

    Again, it is being reported that the local Target store has birth control for $9 per month. Tuition is $23,500 per semester. She can’t afford $9 per month. What a crock.

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  • NorthernX

    Not surprised. I bet she’s not into rockin’ the salami either…

  • Joey

    Umm… so what? What law student isn’t an advocate for some position? That’s what law students typically do once they get past 1L.

    And I hardly think this girl took the LSATs, enrolled in law school, and did all the usual studying just as part of some grand scheme to upstage the religious right trying to impose their anti-contraception views on the general public.

  • Voice of Reason

    Democrat hijinks, plain and simple. Done to frame their position.

  • Claudia Renfro

    #5,

    By her own admission, on her back,

  • Redwine

    nunya (#10) – No one has said that she isn’t in law school, but rather that she is an activist with an agenda and was deliberately recruited as a prop for an unconstitutional government policy.

    Moron.

  • MoreLiberty

    Since when do lesbians need birth control?

  • Joe College

    I think the reason why women’s rights issues are being pushed on us now that they’re going to drop Biden off the ballot and put Hillary in the VP spot.

  • Gini

    Well, well, what a surprise!

  • BlackBush

    What an old stinky grundle

  • Lora Pepi

    how she reviewed Georgetown’s insurance policy prior to committing to attend, and seeing that it didn’t cover contraceptive services, she decided to attend with the express purpose of battling this policy

    *****

    This is the tried and true strategy of leftists using the courts to get their way, knowing that using democracy, ie, going to the people’s representatives to get a law passed, would not work. They find a ideal test case and use that. That’s how Brown v. Bd Educ and Roe v Wade among many other leftist cases came about.

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  • JPL17

    @ #16 “Joey”: So now refusing to pay for someone ELSE’S contraception is “impos[ing] [one’s] anti-contraception views on the general public”??? I’d call you an idiot, except that that would be an insult to honest idiots throughout the world.

    You’re a f*cking LYING idiot.

  • Robert Ekker

    Can you say 15 minutes of fame?

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  • TomB

    And I hardly think this girl took the LSATs, enrolled in law school, and did all the usual studying just as part of some grand scheme to upstage the religious right trying to impose their anti-contraception views on the general public.

    From this very article, which you obviously forgot to read:

    “In one of her first interviews she is quoted as talking about how she reviewed Georgetown’s insurance policy prior to committing to attend, and seeing that it didn’t cover contraceptive services, she decided to attend with the express purpose of battling this policy.”

    Exactly what you said you “hardly thought” she wouldn’t do.

    Please do us all a favor and stay away from that “hardly thinking” thing. It can only end in tears.

  • Alright liberals sitting on the fence, American’s who are half awake, and dense people in general, do you see now that all these kinds of things are the Democrats doing them, and not Republican’s, not the Tea Party, not Rush Limbaugh, not the vast Right Wing Conspiricy, and not White Christian conservatives who are said to want women to be bare foot, pregnant, and in the kitchen. IT’S NOT US, IT’S THEM!!

    We didn’t plant this woman, she is a women’s libber from way back, she’s an activist for women’s rights. But you know I thought that women’s libber’s didn’t like having sex because they believed it was rape for some guy to try to seduce them? It’s been my experience from back in the 70’s that every women’s lib I encountered wouldn’t let you even get close to her let alone let you kiss her or anything else. They acted like all of a sudden YOU were trying to do something to them that was offensive. Then we see after all these years that women want sex as much, if not more, than men did. Really? I thought women’s libber’s were frigid? I thought all women’s libber’s were lesbian’s who finally had a way to be able to come out of the closet and no one would be suspect of what they were, they would just think they were women’s libber’s since they didn’t have to answer to men as to when they could come out and when they couldn’t.

    Women’s liberation gave women what they have wanted ever since the turn of the last century when the suffer jets were trying to get women’s vote, or women could vote just like men and were not considered property of a man. The women’s lib movement gave women the rights, mobility, and license to do whatever she now wanted to do, and no man had power over women ever again. Women’s liberation is at fault for the increase in boys becoming homosexual because they believed that they would never be able to find the affection they needed in a girl now that the girl didn’t need a boy anymore to find the affection she needed anymore. So boys who needed affection and knew they would get nothing but rejection from girls, you couldn’t whistle at them anymore, you couldn’t flert with girls anymore without being called a male pig, you couldn’t do anything that would get a girl interested in a boy anymore when women’s liberation…seperated boys from girls. You can’t imagine the everlasting pain boys felt from that time on. It caused relationships to be broken up because the girl believed that she could tell the boy he couldn’t touch her, couldn’t kiss her, couldn’t hug her, all he could do was talk to her because…..”women want to be liked for their minds, not just their bodies anymore. Women have a mind to, and they finally have law backing them that says they can just talk on a date and not have to worry ever again about being grouped, or fondled.

    Gee, I thought the girls I dated liked being kissed and hugged, and fondled. Gee, I didn’t know they were deeply offended and hated it but felt like since it was such a “man’s world” that they HAD to let me do those things to them? They didn’t ACT like they didn’t like it. I guess all those times we ended up in bed was because they felt like they were being forced to do it? I suppose when they were going at it as hard as I was, was because they felt that if they didn’t they would be beatened or thrown in the kitchen and forced to cook?

  • wanumba

    She HAD to be an activist. Just nobody doesn’t get Nancy Pelosi pulling levers to get her in front of a national audience. Not just anybody who has the unmitigated chops to claim what she claimed in public … lesbians need the taxpayers to pay for birth control for Lesbian Hormone Imbalances. (LHI) (sounds likes LIE)

    Most people would have looked at that script and said, “I ain’t going there.”

    THAT was Rush’s BIG NUANCED POINT: It’s OBVIOUS he didn’t believe for a nanosecond she wasn’t anything more than a political operative and gave her a dose of her own medicine.

    Hilarious watching all the fake outrage and vapors about Rush’s carefully crafted dart that punctured the fraud.

  • Joe College

    Here is more confirmation Hillary is being prepped for wider exposure, specifically the VP slot. In a hagiographic photo in this recent news story she has been given The Halo…

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/syria-move-constitution-phony-secretary-state-hillary-clinton-article-1.1028757

  • owl

    They reported on FOX that Obama has phoned her today to express his appreciation.

    I kid you not.

    DEMS and their Poop Scoopers put on productions. They are scripted. Plame was scripted. Dan Rather’s was scripted and it always has several layers.

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  • Liz

    Impeach. Party of phonies.

  • Mahdi Al-Dajjal

    And, in case you missed it, she’s attending Georgetown Law on a “Community Interest Scholarship”, whatever that is, so she’s not paying full fare and so can afford $5/month for birth control pills from Walmart.

    If she gives up her morning $5.00 Starbucks Latte just ONE DAY a month, the money saved readily covers a months supply of birth control pills.

  • Andreas K.

    What is “reporoductive justice”? And what makes her qualified to testify on women’s health?

    It’s apalling how the entire discussion is waged by political activists, lawyers, the corrupt, power hungry clergy, people indoctrinated by ideology (Left, Right, doesn’t matter), but no doctors or nurses.

    The people involved in the discussion have no idea what they’re talking about. Time to get the gilloutines out.

  • KornKing

    Mahdl-
    The Latte is the next thing she’ll testify for

  • KornKing

    Who pays an “advocate”?

  • Dreamer456

    She needs to pose nude

  • Paddy

    She obviously thinks sex is a sport that can be played both indoors and outdoors. Her ploy is to enlarge the concept of contraceptive entitlement to include free sneakers so that she can run better from one engagement to the next one.

  • John Fembup

    #3 Redwine: “So she really is an activist whore.”

    Precisely. Nuff said.

  • Highlander

    TomB, Joey said “I hardly think”, not “I think hard”. We all know that Liberals have a difficult time with reality or rational thought though, so this should come as no surprise.

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  • Jim W

    Since when are students covered under a school’s health insurance policy?

    Is anyone asking this question? Was she … or is she an employee of the school or a student?

    When I was in school students were not covered by a school’s health insurance. I have family members currently in college and they are not covered by the school’s health insurance.

    This whole issue with this (30 year old) woman is being framed so fraudulently by the Democrats and their media allies. It is despicable.

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  • wtd

    #4 OxyCon commented:”I bet her name is all a fluke too!”

    She and her family probably will come to regret the fact their surname is now the brunt of every joke related to “sluts” on threads — like this one from CBS Stonehill College Student’s Lawsuit: Roommate Had ‘Disturbingly’ Open Sex Life
    It’s a lesson hard learned for some . . .”consequences”.

  • Pbizzel

    I hope to God that every investigative reporter digs to the bottom on this crooked liberal puppet. Just remember folks, Liberals don’t solve problems, Conservatives do!

  • Holder’s AK-47s kill Mexicans

    I love the internet! (I did post a comment earlier questioning whether she was a willing martyr or a patsy for Pelosi. It was obvious she was an “activist”, er…communist street agitator, er….community organizer, and I just wondered whether she was a set up or stooge. Now we know.)
    Our taxes wasted again by Pelosi for a political charade. Shouldn’t this stunt be paid for by the DNC? It is all campaign stagecraft.

  • FurryGuy

    #10 March 2, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    nunya commented:

    Just because she’s 30 doesn’t mean she’s not in law school, morons.

    There is no one saying she isn’t a law student, but then reading and comprehension must be rather difficult for you.

    It doesn’t matter whether or not if she is a law student, even though no one is saying she isn’t, it matters that she lied, deliberately, about her age and her agenda for why she joined law school. But then lying is ok for you if it furthers the Leftist agenda, eh?

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  • Swifty

    I bet she will soon be a spokesperson for Sleep Train Mattress Center. A rabbit needs to be comfortable.

    Advertiser bails from Rush Limbaugh show

  • Holder’s AK-47s kill Mexicans

    And Matt Lauer, a man who can afford his own birth control, thank God, is in on it too. Amazing how Matt catches all the interviews with women that, well, …… I’ll leave it at that. Perhaps Matt’s former or current wife or girlfriends can fill in.

  • Atlanta Media Guy

    Was she under oath when she testified? I’m just sayin…….

  • Time

    Community interest scholarship ?
    , Much like community organizer scholarship ? My guess is that her college is being paid for by the extreme left , organizations that take in donations from the backs of workers and government funds. These left wingers all have an agenda , get as many into law! in high ranking positions all over the country.. They will pay for it, on donations across the board and in return they do the lefts bidding for them. They will in time control every facet of our society as we are seeing now. This plan has been in effect for forty years and continues until they have taken over every last position within power.. People need to open their eyes, look at what is going on.. Ever notice these far left kids always can afford to go to college and the best ones at that ? When others are unable to afford the extreme expense of basic college.. We have millions more far left kids entering college then we do conservative.. There is a reason why this is happening folks… They want to educate the masses of the left and leave the right under educated so they can be in positions of eventual powerl.. In time this will happen if we let it..

  • Jeffery

    Mission accomplished! The attention slut Limbaugh is getting the attention he craves!

    Sleep Train and Select Comfort have pulled all ads from Limbaugh.

    Life Quotes, Autozone, eHarmony, Century 21 and Lending Tree all deny advertising with him, but pledge not to in the future.

    ProFlowers acknowledge advertising and are re-considering their postion.

    Quicken Loans continues to support him.

  • owl

    They don’t have to bother much because the Poop Scoopers tend to the freebie part of the production.

    They even had a film called AWOL to go with the Dan Rather production. They had Plame, her outed self, breakfast with the original NYT reporter. It is the Poop Scoopers that serve it up with your morning coffee.

  • TomB

    TomB, Joey said “I hardly think”, not “I think hard”. We all know that Liberals have a difficult time with reality or rational thought though, so this should come as no surprise.

    My point exactly.

    If he mangled his point so badly “hardly think(ing)”, imagine what damage he could do putting his full effort into it.

  • owl

    You are so tolerant #56. Such a sweetie.

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  • owl

    BTW, why isn’t Boehner standing at a new conference exposing this fraud?

    Why isn’t someone at a mic shouting about Obama stomping on our freedom of religion?

  • Redwine

    Beware, everyone. This is the left doing what it does best – using Alinsky tactics to drive the conversation, freeze it, make it personal, indulge in ridicule. The topic is forcing an unconstitutional government policy.

  • David Kramer

    $3000 for say 3 years. At $.14/condom she would need to be ******* 19 times a day.

    Yep, Rush is right, she is a slut.

  • Alana

    If you’re 30 and can’t afford to buy your own birth control pills (though it appears she can buy clothes and jewelry), then you are a l-o-s-e-r.

  • Sorr to Live in Illinois

    LOL. I don’t care what she is. Rush Limbaugh spent the past six hours of freakin’ air time talking about this crap.

    Meanwhile, no mention of our failing economy, high unemployment, Briebarts secret tapes, high gas prices, the failing dollar, etc.

    The entire country is being played and the media is playing right along.

    I though Rush Limbaugh was smater than that, and frankly, I’m disappointed that he fell for it.

  • Mark Loftin

    Sandra: self control is free. Waiting until you are married and ready for a baby is free too!

  • Paul

    She is a women’s rights activist? So what? You are a bunch of right wing activists and I guess that is ok … because one can only be an activist on the right wing side! Being an activist is NOT problem when the activist is a conservative pain killer addicted rich radio host married four or five times (a christian … I might add)???

    Of course you do not address any of the issues raised by Sandra and because you really have NO argument, insults will do instead.

    Does your sexual partner (if you have one) use contraception? Do you use viagra? Do you ever have sex?

    I don’t care and neither should you get into the business of deciding what my health insurance covers!

    STAY OUT OF MY BEDROOM! GO SANDRA!!! PROUD TO BE A SLUT AND A PROSTITUTE IF THAT COMES FROM RUSH LIMBAUGH!

  • Interesting

    #33 owl commented: “They reported on FOX that Obama has phoned her today to express his appreciation. I kid you not.”

    Apparently, yes, true story.. on politico:

    Obama calls Sandra Fluke, student dissed by Rush Limbaugh
    By MJ LEE | 3/2/12

    Limbaugh, who has shown no signs of offering an apology to Fluke but has not used the word “slut” since Wednesday, reacted to Carney’s remarks on his show Friday.

    “Carney, the White House press secretary, just said that Obama finds the attacks on Fluke to be reprehensible, disappointing, personal and crude. So I ask Jay Carney: Will President Obama now give back the $1 million donation that Bill Maher just gave his super PAC?” Limbaugh asked. “You want to get some tapes of some of the things that Bill Maher has called Sarah Palin? The ‘C word’ over and over again?”

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/73549.html

  • JPL17

    Paul: Stop breathing through your mouth. No one’s taking away little Sandy’s right to use her precious artificial birth control. We’re just refusing to pay for it on religious grounds, since a 1993 statute signed by Bill Clinton EXPRESSLY GIVES US THAT RIGHT.

    Now YOU f*cking with OUR rights, you jerk.

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  • JKB

    And it would have worked to if it weren’t for those meddling STEM graduates.

    How mean of them to divide the price of contraception into her reported expense of contraception and then report, she’s using a whole lot of contraception. Some might call it contraception abuse.

  • AveMarias for everyone

    This has to be one of the dumbest article I have read in a very long time.

    An activist with a law degree….shocking!

    The people surprised and outraged by this are a bunch dolts.

  • Gary B.

    I hope she gets herpes, but I suspect she already has.

  • TomB

    I don’t care and neither should you get into the business of deciding what my health insurance covers!

    But she is doing the exact opposite of what you want. She specifically chose a school whose health insurance was not in line with her beliefs with the express purpose of “getting into the business of deciding what my health insurance covers!”

    For God’s sake think before you post.

  • #68 Staying out of health insurance doesn’t seem to have occurred to the Dems.

  • wanumba

    #56 March 2, 2012 at 2:37 pm
    Jeffery commented:

    Mission accomplished! The attention slut Limbaugh is getting the attention he craves
    ::::::::::::::::

    SO, you’re on the side of the chick lying about her sex life needs that she wants YOU to pay for?
    Jeffery Jeffery. You eating too much estrogen-laced TOFU? That’s BAD for GUYS. Or do you not pay taxes?

    Hey. That’s right.. TOFU is loaded with estorgen. Hey, wait a minute!! How come these estrogen-deprived lesbian chicks aren’t eating that au natural instead of takiing artificial, bad pharma, profit-greedy drugs?

  • Swifty

    >> I don’t care and neither should you get into the business of deciding what my health insurance covers!

    My health care insurance is already going up with ObamaCare (Affordable [NOT!] Health Care Act) and crap like this that should not be included in a pool of health care billings where ALL end up paying for it. So, the leftists don’t mind making me pay for a bunch of rabbits who can’t control themselves and want something for nothing as part of half of the country who doesn’t pay any taxes.

    So, yes, I damn well should care when someone is stealing my hard-earned money from me against my will. Wise up, moron.

  • Paul

    Dear JPL17,

    would you then support polygamous marriage? You see, many religions, including Islam allow for men to marry more than one woman.

    If my religion or conscience required me to use drugs, would that be ok too, according to you?

    You see, I pay for my health insurance. You actually do not.

    Finally, if your employer, on religious grounds, was to decide that intolerant and idiots like yourself should not be covered, would that be ok with you?

    p.s. I will not stop breathing nor stop talking. Cause you do not scare anyone. Nobody is scared by your intolerance. That’s why you are losing another presidential election!

  • Sideswiped

    I worked my way through college in the 1970’s, using student loans and paying it with money I earned. This former girl now woman could do the same by merely going up Wisconsin Avenue and applying to become a stripper at either JP’s or Good Guys, she would only have to work part time, completely nude of course which she seems not to have any aversion to doing if as she implies she is having wild monkey sex 4-5 times a week with multiple partners anyway. In no time at all she could earn enough money to move off campus, pay entirely for her Law School education and get all the condoms necessary as raincoats for her sex partners. Frankly I have seen the backside of a dog shaved that is prettier than this hog, but hey to each their own. Maybe she is a very kinky girl and when she says she has sex 4-5 times a week, perhaps it is all in one night to get it out of the way so she can concentrate on her law school studies?

  • Paul

    TomB

    She pays for her own health insurance. It should not be up to anyone to decide what my health insurance covers (or not).

    That is pretty simple. What if you work for a company that does not want to cover right wingers?

    I think you should be covered by health insurance like everyone else!

  • UpChuck.Liberals

    I keep hearing the number of $3000 for condoms over the course of 3 years. IN BULK 100/box that boiles down to her haveing sex 10 TIMES A DAY, EVERY DAY. That sounds pretty much like a very popular working girl or a typical liberal, screwing everything in sight.

  • wanumba

    #45 March 2, 2012 at 2:19 pm
    Jim W commented:

    Since when are students covered under a school’s health insurance policy?

    ::::::::::::::::::

    DOn’t know since when but NOW:
    It is a REQUIREMENT that students prove health insurance coverage by parents OR buy the school insurance. They automatically bill you, and only when you provide PROOF your parents insure you that they remove the charge. Plenty of parents don’t notice and are paying twice – their own and the college’s.

    Requirement or be un-enrolled in school.

  • Old-n-Happy

    She should try masturbating.

    It’s totally free!

  • USAF-77-84

    Talk about banging your way up the activist ladder.

  • TomB

    She pays for her own health insurance. It should not be up to anyone to decide what my health insurance covers (or not).

    And she stated that she specifically chose Georgetown because BC was NOT covered in order to decide what my health insurance covers (or not).

    She wants to change the insurance coverage at Gtown. You say that is wrong, but you still support her. Which is it?

    Are you even reading your own posts?

  • righthearted

    In the same way abortion activists try to hang their entire argument on the 1-3% (at most) of abortions that are done for “rape, incest, or life of the mother,” so this activist is trying to hang her entire argument on TWO cases, one of which clearly would be covered since it is not “contraception for the reason of preventing pregnancy” (her own words for the reason the 2nd woman’s insurance would not cover her birth control pills). Furthermore, although Catholic leadership and some other Christians frown on such contraceptives, these aren’t even the abortifacient pills that are the most egregious problems. In any case, there’s a world of difference (in my opinion) between these two women whose medical conditions require “hormones,” and Ms. Fluke, who merely wants free contraceptives to make her free and frequent sex with her myriad amorous (and hardly chivalrous) suitors free of responsibility or consequences. Sorry, but I have to agree wholeheartedly with Rush and others who have declared her to be a “slut.” If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s usually a duck…and she’s quacking pretty loudly!!

  • Paul

    And of course, you are all talking about what she ACTUALLY DID NOT SAY. She was NOT talking about condoms. NOT about how many condoms she uses. She actually did not even mention the word.

    As always, you are NOT interested in the truth. You make up your own and run with it.

    Besides, are you all a bunch of virgins? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! Give us all a break and get off your moralistic crusade.

  • I’d like to know who were the Dem staffers on the Hill who helped her craft her testimony!

    Notice how it fits their arguments and causes: she is the courageous, selfless advocate speaking for all these helpless, silently struggling victims of capitalist society who – just like congressmen – cannot be expected to simply stop spending our money on screwing us, so they need and deserve more money to spend on screwing even more people. It’s a right no to be questioned and anybody who questions it is sexist, oppressor, whatever.

    This shyster lawyer-slut’s testimony and it’s phony political theater is a microcosm of the rest of their ’causes’ from gun control to global warming. There’s no molehill of a problem – real or imagined – these people won’t make into a mountain of a problem if it is a way for them to control ANY part of our lives. It’s time to stand up these people and let them know were not going along with their self-righteous make-believe ’causes’ that are really intended to control us.

    And this shyster lawyer-slut and her comrades deserve to mocked and laughed at by all decent people.

  • wanumba

    #84 March 2, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    Old-n-Happy commented:
    ::::::::::::::
    Hah hah.

    SHe’s lesbian. That’s what she does for sex already. SO, back to why are we bad old meanies supposed to tbe paying for what? I mean I already got kids to support, I’m not interested in supporting someone else’s 30 year old child with a spoiled brat attitude and an extreme narcissist complex.

  • Sasja

    Read where Boo Hoo Boehner thought Rush’s comment was inappropriate.

    So, was it “inappropriate” for the dhims to hold a phony hearing and present a phony witness, based on a phony issue?

    Is it “inappropriate” that Zero circumvents the US Constitution at every turn? Or is that criminal?

    Is it “inappropriate” that members of Congress are not faithful to their oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic? Or is that criminal?

  • mackykam

    She claims she only earns enough working summers, three thousand dollars, to cover the costs of contraceptives.

    I suggest she find a more lucrative street corner.

  • ObamaSucks

    Sandra’s really a 30 year old w h o re who spends the $3,000 for bags to put over her head.

  • Robert J.

    Hey Sandra ,
    Here’s a free form of birth control ……CLOSE YOUR LEGS FOR ONCE !

  • Adirondack Patriot

    If feminists want government to keep its laws off their bodies, why do they invariably ask government to pass laws ABOUT their bodies?

  • democraps suck

    no….another demo-turd lying….say it aint so joe…these people are the vile pond scum of the earth…

  • Paul

    TomB,

    I am reading my own posts.

    I believe NO employer has the right to exclude from coverage any particular treatment. Health insurance should cover what the patient requires. End of the story. Sandra pays for her coverage through Georgetown. If she wants reproductive coverage, she should get it.

    As I said, my religion would force me NOT to pay for health coverage for right wing conservatives. It is against my beliefs and morals. My conscience just won’t let me do it. Should those employees of mine that are right wingers NOT be covered then??????

    Really, you want my beliefs to decide what YOUR insurance covers???

    Health insurance has nothing to do with beliefs of the employers. If the employer wants to be a church, stop being an employer or a university!

  • wanumba

    #88 March 2, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    Paul commented:

    And of course, you are all talking about what she ACTUALLY DID NOT SAY.
    ::::::::::

    SHe said, “lesbian girlfriend” she said “georgetown law school” she said “beaucoup bucks I demand you pay for” (I shortened that to summarize)

    She’s got more money than me. And she’s SO concerned about her suffering girlfriend she wants US to pay, but NOT her, who KNOWS the suffering female and ah .. loves her? I mean, why isn’t she walking the talk herself?

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  • Paul

    Wanumba,

    where to start??? I guess … there truly is no point! Keep believing what you CHOOSE to believe. Cause the truth just isn’t what you are interested.

  • Vinny

    I could of told u that by just looking at that pic of her! lol…she looks like a feminist.

  • Sasja

    I called several pharmacies hereabouts and the most expensive birth controll pill I could find was $19. Wal-Mart has them for $6/mo. As I stated above. Phony issue.

    You do recall when this was started? The Jan debate when the question was put to Romney if he thought states had a right to ban birth control. Totally off-the-wall, from out-of-nowhere, who on earth was talking about that(?) phony, baloney, plastic banana, good time rock ‘n roll, issue.

  • USAF-77-84

    Sorry if comment #85 offends, i couldn’t help it. the article opened the door.

  • TomB

    I believe NO employer has the right to exclude from coverage any particular treatment. Health insurance should cover what the patient requires. End of the story. Sandra pays for her coverage through Georgetown. If she wants reproductive coverage, she should get it.

    So who gets to decide what is and isn’t covered under a private health insurance? Since she bought the policy and knew it didn’t cover BC, what gives her the right “to decide what my health insurance covers (or not)” ? (your words)

    Health insurance has nothing to do with beliefs of the employers. If the employer wants to be a church, stop being an employer or a university!

    Huh?

  • mackykam

    She could lots of money by learning to swallow!

  • Paul

    TomB,

    THE PATIENT AND THE DOCTOR!!!

    That’s who decides what is covered or not.

    Not the church. Not left wing politician. Not right wing politicians.

    That’s who decides. The patient and the doctor!

  • mg4us

    Fluke is a fluke and a decoy for the RATs. .the DemocRATs. . .who are trying to shift attention from economy & rising gas prices (where is the MSM outrage to $4 & $5/gal gas???? like when Bush was president!!!) & massive unemployed/under-employed workforce. . .

    MSM in cahoots with Obama. . .George (brown-noser) Stephanopolus stated the birth control diversion during republican debates. . like this is a major issue. . NOT

    And to try to cover Birth Control as a medical need/treatment is to diminish the real medical needs. . vitamins and nutrition are more important than Birth Control. .shouldn’t everyone get FREE vitamins as part of nutritional health? And what about exercise?. .how about free gym memberships and free home treadmills as part of metabolic health? And how about free cholesterol lowering drugs. . .free for cardiovascular health?

    This woman and the RATs should make every Constitutional American sick. . time to send them all packing to Cuba. . .

  • OCDick

    Paul, you seem pretty dense. No one is trying to force anything on you. We don’t want to pay for your birth control. You want to have sex w/o the worry of fathering a child, you buy a prophylactic, right? Do you ask anyone else to pay for it? Do you feel that you are entitled to free birth control? If yes, why? It’s that simple. You want birth control, you pay for it. Ms. Fluke wants someone else to pay for her birth control. Why? I couldn’t care less who or how many people she boinks. I don’t even want to hear about her sexual exploits—it’s none of my business. I don’t want my health insurance going up to pay for her birth control.
    And if you think the insurance companies aren’t goint to increase premiums to cover the cost of this mandate, then you’re a bigger sucker than your comments indicate.

  • Paul

    TomB,

    by the way you did not answer my question?

    Should a right winger be excluded from health coverage by a company who believes it is against its morals to do so?

    Answer that question?

  • wanumba

    #100 March 2, 2012 at 3:21 pm
    Paul commented:
    Wanumba,

    where to start??? I guess … there truly is no point! Keep believing what you CHOOSE to believe. Cause the truth just isn’t what you are interested.
    ::::::::::::::::::

    I chose to believe what she SAID. You complained we weren’t reviewing her WORDS, now you complain again. We lived in a town where not a soul in twenty years had the elite access to a school like Georgetown, and I’m supposed to feel SORRY for a 30 year old WOMAN in the elite stratosphere who is WHINING about “needing” people to pay for BIRTH CONTROL? SHe’s tracking to make ten times what we make and she wants subsidized pills? How CHEAP is she? Mummy and Daddy buy her everything her little heart desired and taught her to look down on anyone who wasn’t as smartl as she??

    How much common sense do you have to deny of a day to justify this nonsense? SHe’s lying thru her TEETH. How pathetic is that?

    It’s not ispo facto you are on Rush Limbaugh side to REJECT this woman’s claims, so drop that LEFT CONSTRUCT. Her LIES stand on their own merits.

  • TomB

    THE PATIENT AND THE DOCTOR!!!

    That’s who decides what is covered or not.

    Not the church. Not left wing politician. Not right wing politicians.

    That’s who decides. The patient and the doctor!

    And where does this happen? Not in any country I’m aware of.

    BTW, access to BC is not, in the vast majority of cases, an issue of medical necessity. So once again your argument fails.

  • Jacob

    Maybe we SHOULD give her PLENTY of birth control so she doesn’t further contaminate the gene pool.

  • Jane

    Rush is a male chauvist pig. He’s acts like a cave man and it’s no wonder he’s on his 4th wife.
    Do we all have to go back to the dark ages. Welcome to the 21st century… It is the responsible thing to do… family planning that is, so we have fewer abortions and fewer children outside of marriage. Besides a large number of women take birth contol pills for health reasons, why should they be denied health care.

  • OCDick

    What mandated coverage for right wingers are you tallking about, Paul?

  • wanumba

    #106 March 2, 2012 at 3:26 pm
    Paul commented:
    TomB,

    THE PATIENT AND THE DOCTOR!!!
    ::::::::::::::

    You a bit late to discover that ObamaCare is expressly designed for inserting itself between the patient and the doctor and that’s the basis for why everyone is UPSET?

    This women IS demanding government insertion by demanding taxpayers PAY for it.

  • RRBILL

    Most law students are older than 22-25. For one thing, many law schools have an evening division which offers a part time program for those who have a full time job in the city. For another, many students have stopped out after college for military, internships, graduate assistantships, etc. Thirty is about average for a law school graduate.

  • jim

    #68 March 2, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    Paul commented:

    Of course you do not address any of the issues raised by Sandra and because you really have NO argument, insults will do instead.
    I don’t care and neither should you get into the business of deciding what my health insurance covers!
    STAY OUT OF MY BEDROOM! GO SANDRA!!! PROUD TO BE A SLUT AND A PROSTITUTE IF THAT COMES FROM RUSH LIMBAUGH!

    Paul,

    Congrats! Your the first lib that has it right. Non of us should be concerned with what’s going on in anyone’s bedroom……..and neither should we be required to pay for it. Any insurance is
    based on a pool of resources that the consumer agrees to join by choice! Obama and the Democrats have limited the choosing to none of those in the pool, only to some appointed government official. This is one of the first proofs of how bad the “Obama Care” legislation is, and is going to be.

    While you may find comfort in the fact that your views are more closely aligned with those of the current holders of power in this matter. I suggest you remember that politics is generally a pendulum and it always swings both ways! When is swings opposite to your ideology, your liable to cry fowl, just as some on the other side are now.

    The only real protection you or I, or anyone for that matter, has is the liberty and individual rights protected in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, which it’s beginning to look more and more like the Obama healthcare bill tramples frequently………..

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  • TomB

    Should a right winger be excluded from health coverage by a company who believes it is against its morals to do so?

    Answer that question?

    Strawman. It is illegal to deny coverage based on politics.

    However, I think it is a great idea. I’d love to see how long a company lasts that purposely won’t employ “right-wingers”. (how do they determine that?)

    BTW, you said “my religion would force me NOT to pay for health coverage for right wing conservatives”.

    What religion is that? Or are you lying?

  • Sasja

    Paul, this is about a government dictating what employers and/or health insurance companies should provide. When people decide to purchase health insurance, they have a slew of options for the type of coverage they want. This is how it should be. No taxpayer (and you probably are not one) should have to pay for anyone’s birth control pill, nor should the government have the authority to dictate they should.

    We wouldn’t be at this juncture today had We the People insisted that our legislators follow, to the letter, the constraints put on government by our Constitution.

    That is why this nation was started as a Representative Republic. Not a democracy.

    There is a story that Benjamin Franklin, after the drafting of the Constitution, was asked by a woman, what type of government we had. His response, “A Republic, maam, if you can keep it.”

    It takes due diligence on the part of the People to see we keep this Republic. Obviously, we failed.

  • Jeffery

    Neither Jammie Wearing Fool or Jim Hoft offer any evidence of her actual age. Her age really isn’t important and she may be 30, but where is the proof.

  • Marie

    So now every man woman and child in this nation is “entitled” to free birth control. Paid for by the US taxpayer. That is what the Libs are saying.

  • righty

    You people are a lot crazier than I could have ever imagined.

  • wanumba

    #116 March 2, 2012 at 3:34 pm
    RRBILL commented:

    Most law students are older than 22-25.
    ::::::::::::::::::::

    That’s not really an issue, except:
    They aren’t considered in any way shape or form “children” but ADULTS.
    ADULTS pay their own bills.

  • KornKing

    #84
    Pretty bad if she can’t get a date with herself

  • Mapper

    Red Red Wine, I love you comment. In typical fashion, Dems try to divert, cloud and obfuscate. Your response was clear, concise and nailed Nunya. Good job.

  • OCDick

    You people are a lot crazier than I could have ever imagined.

    Don’t sell yourself short. Your kind of crazy goes beyond imagination. I’m sure your meds are covered.

  • TomB

    Neither Jammie Wearing Fool or Jim Hoft offer any evidence of her actual age. Her age really isn’t important and she may be 30, but where is the proof.

    Why don’t leftys read the article?

    This morning, in an interview with Matt Lauer on the Today show, it was revealed that she is 30 years old, NOT the 23 that had been reported all along.

    Jim Hoft has a cynical habit of lying to his readers (almost every post).

    What’s your excuse?

  • wanumba

    #113 March 2, 2012 at 3:32 pm
    Jane commented:
    Rush is a male chauvist pig. He’s acts like a cave man and it’s no wonder he’s on his 4th wife.
    ::::::::::::::::::

    So are the college females we surveyed who’ve read this and also think Rush is correct that she’s an opportunitst political lying hack … are “male chauvinist pigs” also?

    I mean, they instantly understood his point and totally agreed. They not “female” enough? I mean, they want a guy to marry, how cavewoman of them, and they want “kids.” So, their voices aren’t GOOD enough for the feminist LEFT?

  • Sasja

    Tom B, it is obvious, and I think you know this, that Strawman’s religion is liberalism .

    Jane, I thought women were self-reliant, strong, and didn’t need help from anybody. Where are the feminists? Looks to me like these gals are unable to care for themselves and need big daddy government to take care of their needs.

    After watching her phony testimony, what I saw was a gal whoring for the dhims.

  • Sasja

    Jane. That male chauvinist pig thing is so, yesterday.

  • myohmy

    So how many does these liberal cabal have planted to undermine and destroy every institutions so they can replace it with their tyrannical edicts?

  • We should know she wasn’t getting that much action from the first time we saw her picture… yuk!

  • jo

    I don’t care if this woman is a 52 year old truck driver from St. Louis. Rush didn’t know that…still the fact remains that he called her horrible names and was just a pig to her. NO ONE deserved the attack he cast on her. But from what I have read here, you are a bunch of his knuckle dragging followers, so what is the point. Never wrestle a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.

  • thebronze

    “Unreal. This was all just a big dishonest Democrat ploy to take the attention off of Barack Obama’s assault on religious freedom.”

    And us Republican’s, being dumb, spineless and tone-deaf, fell for it. Hook, line and sinker.

    Soetoro may just win this thing after all…

    Unbelievable.

  • Paul

    TomB,

    1) My current insurance policy provides for that (the doctor gets to decide what I need). Yes, this has been my insurance policy for the past eight year. Can you believe it: decisions are made on the basis of my health care needs!!!! Not on the basis of someone else’s religious beliefs!!!

    2) For many women reproductive health care is medically required (for example, for the treatment of certain type of cancer, etc.)

    3) Finally, should right wing men be denied viagra prescriptions by a feminist organization?

  • Rev. Wright ain’t right upstairs

    This fluke makes me puke.

  • Sasja

    She deserves every attack which has been launched. She is a lying dhim whore and should be treated as such.

  • Paul

    Marie,

    the taxpayer DOES NOT pay for my health insurance. I pay for it. And yes, I should be entitled to whatever coverage I pay for. Keep your religion out of my business!!!

  • Dave-O

    Perhaps Georgetown should buy every student a handgun too.

    Because if they don’t – the school obviously would be denying everyone’s constitutional right to bear arms.

  • Robbins Mitchell

    “I’m screwing my way straight into the poorhouse and I can’t help it and the taxpayers need to share this burden so I’m willing to whore myself to the Federal government for 28 pills a month”

    ~Sandra Fluke~

  • Sasja

    Are there any right wing men out there wanting the government (i.e., taxpayers) to fund their Viagra?

    Step up and be heard.

    We’re waiting.

  • Adirondack Patriot

    Jo @ 134: When Fluke blatanyl put her sexual activity front and center at a Congressional hearing, and then asks me to pay for her contraceptives, I (and the rest of America) can call her anything we want.

    She is the pig. She is the problem. Not Rush and not those whom she wants to pay for her “reproductive justice.”

  • donh

    Bet she’s lesbian too….also possibly related to Lawrence O’Donnell….same square face of a mean socialist block head.

  • JPL17

    @ #79 “Paul”

    “would you then support polygamous marriage? You see, many religions, including Islam allow for men to marry more than one woman.”

    That’s got absolutely nothing to do with this. I’m talking about a SPECIFIC 1993 federal statute, signed by Bill Clinton and passed by Congress with only 3 dissenting votes, which EXPRESSLY gives religiously-affiliated hospitals the legal right to refuse to provide health insurance policies covering birth control or abortion, if they object to such practices on religious grounds.

    Since the Catholic Church has long-standing moral proscriptions against artificial birth control and the morning-after pill, OBVIOUSLY the Obamacare regulation requiring Catholic hospitals to provide such coverage violates this statute, and is ILLEGAL. End of story.

    Try arguing against THAT proposition, instead of coming up with idiotic hypotheticals that have nothing to do with the topic.

  • Meg Duncan

    She is doing the same thing that Obama does when promoting his Obamacare. She is taking situations of the few and far between and trying to make people think that this is a valid reason to pass a law. The same thing is also done with abortion by using the excuse of rape, which accounts for less than 1% of the abortions in a year in America. You cannot pass a law based on the exceptions, that is not good law because it does not apply to the mass majority.

    The truth is that 99.9% of the people that use the contraceptives would be using them to prevent pregnancy. Married or not married, it just doesn’t matter; catholic churches nor anyone else should not be forced to pay for birth control. If they want to have birth control covered then they should seek employment in places that do cover it. Sometimes life just doesn’t give us everything we hold our hands open for, and Americans need to start realizing it no matter what your sob story is.

  • William Baranowski

    We’ve been flummoxed by a fluke!

  • Paul

    Sasja,

    how many inaccuracies in just one short piece.

    1) I actually do pay taxes. And for your information, a lot. And, surprise, surprise, I do not mind paying what needs to be paid to keep the government going.

    2) I am always amazed by those that believe we should govern this country according to the Constitution as it was written and understood when it was adopted. That truly amazes me. I guess women should still not have the right to vote. Or minorities should not be included in our government. What about the regulation of the internet? The Founding Fathers had no idea about what to do with it … so who knows … we just will make something up.

    3) The Constitution is an amazing document that says a lot and on many issues actually says nothing. That is where interpretation comes in. Of course, right wing interpretation is allowed. Nothing else is. Nothing that would actually bring the Constitution in line with what is happening in 2012.

    4) The same Constitution speaks about the separation of state and church. I guess that is because the Founders did not want a theocracy. They wanted a secular state, where religion is something private. Where what you believe should not be imposed on anyone else.

    5) You see, churches and religious people can never use contraception. That is fine with me. But you do NOT have the right to tell others whether they can or cannot use contraception.

    6) Finally, many employers only have one option when it comes to health insurance. So, forgive me, if I really do not want my employer, republican, democrat, church, mosque or whatever else, to decide what I can and cannot get under my employer’s health insurance.

    7) Finally, finally. Elections do have consequences. So suck it up for now and for the next four years under Obama.

  • nano

    The point is the dems held their bogus hearing with her to create the false choice this is about contraception.

    It isn’t the real issue is religious freedom from mandates.

    All the shouting here is burying that fact.

  • FurryGuy

    #134 March 2, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    jo commented:

    Oh boo-frikking-hoo. Hate hearing the truth, eh?

    Save your indigence the the next time some Republican/Conservative has nasty things said about them, you won’t have to wait long because the Left constantly displays their hatred.

    See the outpouring of “grief” from the Left regarding Andrew Breitbart’s death for a good example.

    EPIC Fail, troll. You need to understand your talking points before you start spewing.

  • Paul

    @145 JPL17

    Of course, when without arguments, insults will follow.

    I guess you did not like the argument I was making.

    You are all about the government not interfering with religion? Therefore I simply asked, what about all the prohibitions currently in place that limit the right of people to marry more than one woman (against people’s religious beliefs??).

    Obama healthcare was approved by Congress and it is the law of the land. You do not test the legality of a law adopted in 2010 on the basis of a law adopted years earlier.

    You see, federal legislation can be changed by Congress. Can you imagine that?

    You can only test the legislation under the Constitution. There are legal challenges before the Supreme Court and we will see what they say (of course, you will only accept the conservative view … cause if they said Obamacare is constitutional they are just liberal activist judges).

  • JPL17

    @ #139 “Paul”

    “I should be entitled to whatever coverage I pay for. Keep your religion out of my business!!!”

    YES, GREAT IDEA! PLEASE buy your own f*cking health insurance with your own f*cking money!!! No one cares what legal product you buy with your own money. No one.

    But if I run a Catholic hospital, and if you work there, there’s no f*cking way I’m providing you with health insurance that covers artificial birth control or the morning-after pill. You want those products? You’re perfectly free to go out in the market and buy them — or buy insurance covering them — with your own g*ddam money. NO ONE’S STOPPING YOU.

    Capiche, douchebag?

  • FU#K OBAMA

    Watch the other hand…. RINO Mitch McConnell (GOP Senate minority leader) is REFUSING to allow another up or down vote on Obamacare before the next election….and all you hear is silence…

  • randtruth

    She identified herself as a reproductive rights activist in her testimony before Congress at the very beginning of her testimony.

    How is this news?

    You guys are so pathetic.

    Who cares how old she is? Rush Limbaugh is a mean-spirited bigot.

  • Wow. Apparently you can graduate Georgetown with an MBA, Ph.D, or an STD….

  • In the video she talks about two woman who need birth control, one because hormonal imbalances cause seizures (is the pill the only way to balance hormones?) and the other because of risk factors involved in giving birth too close together. What is doesn’t mention but what is most likely true is that both woman received what they needed in some manner.

  • randtruth

    SHE SAID SHE WAS AN ACTIVIST AT THE BEGINNING OF HER TESTIMONY, HOLT.

    Why are you warming this up as a fresh affront to conservative values?

    Because you lack integrity.

  • Paul

    TomB,

    at least you are coherent. That I can respect.

    I guess you believe health insurance for someone can be excluded on the basis of employers’ beliefs. The law can add political beliefs and so on (actually, there was an amendment debated that would have allowed employers to exclude coverage for anything on the basis of moral beliefs ….).

    It is frankly tragicomic to see people getting worked about by contraceptives in 2012. Such a ridiculous war to fight. I never understood why you people care so much about what people do in bed. You are all supposed to be so religious and all you do is worry about what people do in bed.

    Thankfully, you are in opposition and with arguments like these, you will stay there for a long time. Cause most people are scared by what you are saying.

    And yes, I was trying to make a point about health coverage for right wingers. Believe you me, I work in a place where everybody is respected. Where people get the health coverage they need, regardless of what I think. That is the way it should be. And thankfully, that is the way IT IS under the democratic administration of President Barack Hussein Obama.

  • TomB

    1) My current insurance policy provides for that (the doctor gets to decide what I need). Yes, this has been my insurance policy for the past eight year. Can you believe it: decisions are made on the basis of my health care needs!!!! Not on the basis of someone else’s religious beliefs!!!

    So if your doctor believes you “need” a complete cosmetic makeover (boob job, tummy tuck, rhinoplasty, etc.), the insurance covers it?

    And what is the name of the company that offers this magical insurance?

    2) For many women reproductive health care is medically required (for example, for the treatment of certain type of cancer, etc.)

    And that is not what we are talking about here, no matter how desperately you try to steer it in that direction.

    As I said before, with some very few exceptions, BC is NOT a medical necessity. In cases that it is, I have no problem it being covered.

    3) Finally, should right wing men be denied viagra prescriptions by a feminist organization?

    If he wants to work there, and it is spelled out in the contract, sure.

    You really have a problem with this whole “freedom” thing.

    Do you support Obamacare?

  • justavoter

    Contraceptives, who cares.I mean really, with all that is going on in the country, this massive downgrade otherwise known as transition, I just don’t care.
    No debate, there are already free contraceptives out there, enough of this bogus argument, I don’t care if you use or don’t use the damn things, it’s on you either way.Onward.

  • Paul

    JPL17,

    I actually do buy my health insurance. And the Catholic hospital that employs me (if I were to work there) did not say you need to be a priest to work here (I presume). Cause that would make it a church.

    So, I pay my health insurance and I actually do get everything I need.

    Cause you see, this is not Afghanistan and the Taleban are not running this country.

    We have a great President Obama who told bigots like you what to do. Suck it up. Just suck it up.

    P.s. Off to get my condoms for a great night of fun!!! Proud to be called a slut and prostitute by Rush Limbaugh!!!

    p.p.s. Please get your Viagra. I know you hate people having sex, cause you can’t get it. But there is help and under our health coverage you can get it … free of charge!

  • TomB

    The same Constitution speaks about the separation of state and church.

    Where?

  • wanumba

    #154 March 2, 2012 at 4:15 pm
    randtruth commented:

    She identified herself as a reproductive rights activist in her testimony before Congress at the very beginning of her testimony.

    How is this news?
    :::::::::::

    Because we’ve been INFORMED she’s speaking for WOMEN and what they NEED …. and that’s CRAP.

    SHe’s a partisan hack propagandizing about her POLITICAL AGENDA to influence public opinon and lawmakers. ANd we’ve all been called nasty sexist names for not giving her a pass.

    It’s simple. It’s news … the Democrats dishonestly rigging the debate AGAIN.

  • TXAntimedia

    Fluke claims that contraception costs $1000/yr – $3000 for a three year law student. Condoms are $1 ea. At $1000 condoms per year, this woman is having sex 3 times a day 365 days a year. When the hell does she study? The guys must be lined up at her apartment door waiting their turn.

    Or…..she’s a lying ass leftist scumbag.

    I vote for the latter.

  • bg

    ++

    pardon if a repeat: via The Bialek Bible..

    March 2, 2012

    Advertisers bails from Rush Limbaugh show

    OT..

    March 02, 2012

    The Solyndra Saga: Part… (uh… we’re losing count): Low Voltage

    [Crossing the wires this hour is news that the General Motors
    corporation will be halting production of the Chevrolet Volt
    electric car and laying off 1,300 employees.]

    ==

  • Paul

    TomB @ 159

    Da, I do support Obamacare. What a shocking surprise???

    And you seem to have a problem with freedom. Freedom to choose.

    You only like freedom of right wingers to deny others what they need/want.

    You don’t want condoms. Don’t use them!!!!

    If someone else wants them, NOT your business. Really none of your business.

    No religion should dictate what I need or not.

    p.s. In NY we have very good liberal laws …. I know you hate it … but we do 🙂

  • TomB

    I never understood why you people care so much about what people do in bed.

    I don’t care what people do in bed. I care,in this case, about being compelled to pay for non medically necessary things in my insurance contract.

    End of story.

  • Barack Hussein Obama called the Georgetown flake, Sandra Fluke showing his support. “He wanted to express his disappointment that she has been the subject of inappropriate personal attacks, and to thank her for exercising her rights as a citizen to speak out on an issue of public policy.” Thank her for exercising her rights as a citizen to speak out on an issue of public policy? That is right, a Statist believes in the First Amendment right of free speech, as long as the person is saying what they want them to say.

  • Paul

    The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ….” and Article VI specifies that “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

  • Carl Ericsson

    Did not know there were so many guys practicing abstinence! Maybe that is where all your frustration is coming from. I myself prefer contraception over 12 kids in a marriage but to each his own, gl boys.

  • Paul

    the phrase “separation of church and state” in this context is generally traced to a January 1, 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson, addressed to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut, and published in a Massachusetts newspaper. Echoing the language of the founder of the first Baptist church in America, Roger Williams—who had written in 1644 of “[A] hedge or wall of separation between the garden of the church and the wilderness of the world”— Jefferson wrote, “I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.

  • Sands

    Given her statements and the definition as listed in every English dictionary, RUSH is accurate.

    She will not sue RUSH because of his accuracy.

    That liberals are happy that Obama called her , shows they feel it takes a man to fix a woman’s problems, which is demeaning to women.

  • wanumba

    #134 March 2, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    jo commented:

    I don’t care if this woman is a 52 year old truck driver from St. Louis. Rush didn’t know that…still the fact remains that he called her horrible names and was just a pig to her.
    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    He didn’t pay her to do what she did , did he? How about yell at the female pimp-like Pelosi for putting her up to a national venue to make a total fool of herself? Rush is innocent … he had NOTHING to do with this.

    How much did she get paid for this? Maybe in exchange for her very very very very high-priced Georgetown tuition? Georgetown is in the top elite most expensive schools in the USA, meaning .. the entire WORLD.

    Ya know, you could send two graduate students to FRANCE to get degrees for the same price SOMEONE is paying for her to go to Georgetown for law school, and they wouldn’t be this obnoxious.

  • bg

    ++

    via RL:

    When Did Feminists Become Subservient to the State?

    [CALLER: Obviously I’m being satirical because
    of my Catholic upbringing, however —

    RUSH: Well, now, you think you’re being satirical.

    CALLER: I’m also being honest.

    RUSH: No, the other side doesn’t understand satire or irony
    or any of this. No, no, no, no. You’re not permitted that.

    CALLER: Well, and I also have to get this in: You were absolutely correct. This is about socialism versus capitalism. And your listeners need to go back to 1920s and read Evolutionary Socialism. This is the 92nd year. It’s a slow process, just like the Taliban. However, I have been out of work for four years. I’m a casualty of the radio broadcast industry. I didn’t get a penny of anything! I pulled my bootstraps up, I became an entrepreneur, I went out and made my own money.

    RUSH: Uh-oh!

    CALLER: You cannot do that in a socialist society.

    RUSH: You’re now a target. You’re now a target. You’re an achiever.
    You’re gonna be in the 1% regardless what your income is.

    CALLER: Well, exactly. But I get so tired of these people saying, “You know, I need more unemployment. I need this. I need that.” There are jobs, I don’t care if it’s… I cut firewood in the beginning just to make some money. I live 60 miles from the nearest Safeway store, but I don’t owe anybody a dime and I’m making my own money. In various sorts of ways, but I’m making my own money.

    RUSH: Yeah.

    CALLER: Anybody can do it. I’m so tired
    of this “Give me money.” I’m tired of it.
    ]

    more @ link..

    ==

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Paul

    Why do you keep bringing up Viagra as if it is even remotely relevant?

    Even the Catholic Church is okay with Viagra and related drugs.

    Why is that, do you think?

    Because Viagra takes something that does not work as designed and makes it work again.

    Abortions, abortion pills, and even artificial contraception (IUDs, condoms, Norplant, etc.) do the EXACT OPPOSITE. They take something that works EXACTLY AS DESIGNED, and makes it no longer work. Or makes a human at an early stage of development, who has been given the gift of life, F&&KING DIE, in the case of abortions and abortion pills.

    Keep digging into that manure pile, Paul.

    There HAS to be a pony in there somewhere!

  • Paul

    Sands,

    actually many women also called her to express solidarity against attention seeking, pain killer addict, many marriages, billionaire with good health insurance Limbaugh.

    The President simply did add his voice to the hundreds of thousands of people who expressed their support against a bully taking on a student from his bully pulpit.

    That’s all. The days right wingers can intimidate and bully are over. Long over. Sorry … but stay in opposition forever if you think this is the way to attract independent voters. You are scaring everyone off … even moderate republicans like Senator Snow. Keep this up and you will have three or four senators in ten years or so!

  • JPL17

    @ #151 “Paul”

    “Obama healthcare was approved by Congress and it is the law of the land. You do not test the legality of a law adopted in 2010 on the basis of a law adopted years earlier. You see, federal legislation can be changed by Congress. Can you imagine that?”

    Ah, the first glimmer or intelligence from “Paul”! Yes, you’re 100% correct, that later legislation can overrule prior legislation.

    But guess what? Obamacare DIDN’T overrule the 1993 law. Here’s why:

    #1, The Obamacare legislation doesn’t even MENTION the 1993 law. So obviously there’s no express overruling of the 1993 law.

    #2, NOWHERE does Obamacare even state that the government now has power to require all employers to provide insurance covering artificial birth control or the morning-after pill. So obviously there’s no overruling of the 1993 law by implication either.

    (And even if there had been an overruling by implication, which there isn’t, it wouldn’t be effective, since the 1993 statute expressly provides that it CANNOT be overruled except by EXPRESS language. As noted, this IS NO express language overruling the 1993 statute in Obamacare, so obviously the 1993 statute has not been overruled.)

    #3, since the Obama administration KNOWS that the Obamacare statute didn’t overrule the 1993 statute, it’s trying to overrule it by REGULATION. That’s illegal. A federal regulation that’s inconsistent with a federal statute is VOID.

    The new regulation requiring all religiously-affiliated hospital employers to provide health insurance covering artificial birth control and the morning-after pill is therefore VOID. (For a deeper discussion of this subject, see http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204795304577223003824714664.html)

    But nice try, “Paul”! Guess you’ll have to try again.

  • TomB

    Da, I do support Obamacare. What a shocking surprise???

    I thought you didn’t want anyone except the patient and doctor making insurance decisions? O-care is anything but that.

    And you seem to have a problem with freedom. Freedom to choose.

    You only like freedom of right wingers to deny others what they need/want.

    Your heroine chose a school with a specific insurance coverage, but she is then trying “to deny others what they want”.

    You don’t want condoms. Don’t use them!!!!

    Where the HELL did I say anything about “want(ing) condoms”??!?

    If someone else wants them, NOT your business. Really none of your business.

    Are you even following this discussion at all? The woman can have as many condoms as she wants, just don’t force her insurance company to provide them for her.

    No religion should dictate what I need or not.

    Unless you are working for them. And then, only what they will provide in specific cases.

    If abuse of a strawman were a crime, you’d be in for life.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Besides, you’re digging into that manure pile so furiously that it’s entertaining.

  • PFH

    The fact that the Dems are using these types of tactics isn’t surprising in the least. Suspicion is a must in today’s political environment — no longer is a man’s word taken at face-value nor is the fact that end may justify the means for some!!! This issue and the debate surrounding as gotten lost in the “fog” (at least by the major networks and most media outlets — online in cyberspace and in the physical press). This whole issue is (and should always remain) about our religious liberties under The US Constitution and invasion or total disregard by The President, His Administration and The Left!!!!! God Help Us or more pointly — God Have Mercy On Us!!!! I pray it is not too late for our Beloved Country!!!!

  • Hugh

    PHONY–just like every public display associated with this administration.

  • TomB

    the phrase “separation of church and state” in this context is generally traced…..

    IOW, it is NOT in the Constitution.

  • FuzzyPeach

    Rush was right!

  • bg

    ++

    re: #174 March 2, 2012 at 4:36 pm bg

    March 2, 2012

    I’m a Danger to the Women of America?

    RUSH: Let me explain what’s going on here. You caught this midstream, and you’re just saying, “What the heck is this?” Now, I don’t want to go through the entire chronology because that would take too much time. I actually did some of that in the first half hour of the program. One of the best ways to illustrate what’s happening here is we’ve got a news story about a woman, a law school student at Georgetown. She has it reported about her that she’s having so much sex, she can’t afford her birth control pills anymore. Out of nowhere, this woman surfaces! Actually, not out of nowhere. She surfaced after Obama mandated that the Catholic Church and its schools give away contraception free of charge.

    The Church objected. Obama supposedly relented and said, “Okay, okay. You don’t want to do it? I’ll make the insurance companies do it.” He can’t make anybody do it! It’s a violation of the First Amendment. The Democrats, desperately in search of an issue to tar-and-feather and impugn the character of Republicans with because Obama’s trailing in the bills badly with women, decide to dig up from their grooveyard the meme that Republicans hate women. They’ve actually got a chapter in their playbook: “The War on Women” and how to blame Republicans for it and how to manufacture it.

    It’s a war that doesn’t exist. Republicans don’t hate women, are not at war with women, and never have been. It’s absolutely absurd. So Congressman Issa wants to have hearings over the unconstitutionality of Obama’s mandate that churches and religious schools pass out abortion pills, contraception pills and so forth. The Democrats turn this into a hearing about Obamacare and “health care” and an attempt to create a new welfare program, and that is birth control pills for women, and they do it on the basis that the Republicans want to deny contraception to women, which isn’t true. It’s never been stated. There isn’t one Republican that’s interested in this. It’s all manufactured.

    They tried to get Fluke to testify. She is not allowed to testify because it was not about women at Georgetown who have so much sex they can’t afford birth control! It was about Obama. The Democrat women on the committee say, “Well, this is outrageous! This is misogynistic and this is discriminatory right here! They won’t let a woman witness come testify.” And it was never about that. So Pelosi arranges her own press conference for the woman, and the woman makes it clear (her name is Sandra Fluke) that she’s having so much sex, she can’t pay for it — and we should. She’s having so much sex, she can’t afford it.

    She gives the numbers: $3,000 worth of birth control pills worth of sex. She’s paying anywhere from $35,000 to $50,000 a year to go to Georgetown, $20,000 room and board, and can’t afford the $1,800 to $3,000 a year for birth control pills and wants us to pay for it. I said, “What does that make her?” She wants taxpayers, the Democrats want taxpayers, to pay for it. They want to create a welfare entitlement program where we provide birth control pills, because pregnancy’s an illness. Pregnancy is a “women’s health issue.” So the woman comes forth with this, frankly hilarious claim that she’s having so much sex (and her buddies with her) that she can’t afford it.

    And not one person says, “Well, did you ever think about maybe backing off the amount of sex that you have? Do you ever think maybe it’s your responsibility for your own birth control, not everybody else’s?” Nobody raises those questions. Amazingly, when there is the slightest bit of opposition to this new welfare entitlement being created, then all of a sudden we hate women! We want ’em barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, all of these other things. So that’s where we are. And now, at the end of this week, I am the person that the women of America are to fear the most. What can I do to the women of America? ]

    bit more @ link.. 😀

    ==

  • Paul

    @175

    Where to start?

    Actually, if we only support things to work the way they are supposed to, I guess if your penis no longer works … that’s just the way it is supposed to be. Let it not work.

    Or do I miss the logic, if there is one, if what you are saying?

    Furthermore, think about all the time you masturbate … and you kill all these gifts of life…

    Yes, I hope your health insurance covers mental conditions too … cause you know … there is help out there for you.

  • Polly

    Hmm. This link purports to give a “full transcript” of Matt Lauer’s interview on Mar 2 with Sandra Fluke. There’s no mention of her age that I can see. Anyone have a link other than this interview with information about her age or history of activism?

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2012/03/02/nbc-brings-sandra-fluke-blast-limbaugh-rights-deafening-silence-denoun

  • TomB

    Paul, I’m still waiting for the “religion would force me NOT to pay for health coverage for right wing conservatives”.

  • Paul

    TomB,

    the internet is not in the constitution. Health care is not in the constitution. Insurance is not in the constitution.

    That’s why they interpret it …. that’s why ….

    Anyway, I am done for today. This was interesting. Always fun to see how those Santorum voters think.

  • nano

    Long ago and far away the way she has acted would reflect negatively on her trying to be appointed to the bar since she clearly has ethical issues in what she has done.

    Now not so much I guess.

  • JPL17

    @ #161 “Paul”

    “We have a great President Obama who told bigots like you what to do.”

    What the h*ll is “bigoted” about refusing to pay for someone ELSE’S birth control?

    It’s Catholic-haters like you and Obama who are the bigots.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Yeah, republicans “intimidate and bully”

    Ask Ms. Bautsch and Mr. Brown about that intimidation and bullying.

    Ask the guy whose finger was bitten off by a Union goon about it.

    Ask Joe “The Plumber” about it intimidation and bullying.

    Ask anyone whose car has been keyed by someone or whose yard signs have been stolen or whose children have been terrorized by people “occupying” their parents’ yards.

    Good God, man. You are either seriously ignorant about which party OWNS intimidation and bullying (oh, you can ask Monica Lewinsky and Gennifer Flowers about intimidation and bullying…), or you are seriously screwed up enough in the head to push out lie after lie, simply to advance your “cause”.

    Damn. Buzz Windrip’s “MMs” in Sinclair Lewis’ It Can’t Happen Here can’t even hold a birthday-cake candle to the Dems’ various armies of thugs.

    I’ve seldom seen a more deceived (or deceiving, whichever it may be) person than this Paul character.

  • jimg

    If someone else wants them, NOT your business. Really none of your business.

    It IS my business when I’m being forced to pay for it!

    Why can’t you stupid leftists get this simple thought through your fvcking skulls?

  • bg

    ++

    Taqiyyotomist #175 March 2, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    ROTF 😆 MBO!!

    ==

  • TomB

    And Paul, I’m still waiting for you to tell us the name of that magic insurance provider….

  • bg

    ++

    aside from GROW UP!!

    this is for anyone who cannot get past
    the “Dem v Rep” square one level.. 🙄

    ==

  • Taqiyyotomist

    #185 Paul

    Where to start?

    Actually, if we only support things to work the way they are supposed to, I guess if your penis no longer works … that’s just the way it is supposed to be. Let it not work.

    Or do I miss the logic, if there is one, if what you are saying?

    LOL! Yes, Paul. You missed it entirely.

    You missed where I said that the Church (you know, those sex-hating Christian-Taliban hyper-conservative prudes)…. THINKS VIAGRA IS A GOOD THING.

    Missed it entirely.

    (Unexpected points for acknowledging the possibility of you doing so, still.)

  • Polly

    What makes me laugh is that Rush Limbaugh is so ignorant he thinks that the more sex you have the more birth control pills you need. . .-one-a-day does it, Rush, no matter how many times. . .

  • Taqiyyotomist

    JPL17

    What the h*ll is “bigoted” about refusing to pay for someone ELSE’S birth control?

    It’s Catholic-haters like you and Obama who are the bigots.

    Damn right, and excellent question and comment.

  • TomB

    I’ve seldom seen a more deceived (or deceiving, whichever it may be) person than this Paul character.

    Don’t forget his insurance where only a doctor gets to determine what is paid for and his “religion” that prohibits “right wingers” from being covered by insurance.

    The Dems need to get him to testify next time.

  • Female

    Most universities have a student health insurance plan. Many require students to buy it. My child’s school does.
    Women, including lesbians, take hormonal pills for many reasons besides birth control. Calling women who choose contraception to space their pregnancies or make sure they can afford a baby all “sluts” is fundamentally WRONG! Don’t all you Conservatives also want to stop families from having kids they can’t afford and turning to Welfare? How do they do that without birth control? Do all you men who have so much to say on this subject call your wives sluts when they want to have sex with you without making a baby?
    Why should wives in the 21st century have to find extra money, in addition to what they pay for insurance, so that they aren’t risking their health by having babies every year? Why should wives have to abstain from sex or pay the price? Men and women should be treated equally by the health insurance they pay for with hard earned money.

  • wanumba

    Why do Democrats HATE children?

    Why do Democrats HATE mothers?

  • bg

    ++

    Paul #185 March 2, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    hmm, i knew men could be impotent or sterile,
    but i never thought they could get preggos??

    ==

  • Beppo

    So what? If anyone thinks this is doing the conservative cause a favor they are out of their minds. This is what conservatives do is it, call women sluts and demand they provide free sex shows on tv just because they disagree with us. We’re completely losing it here.

  • Mark Adams

    So she’s 30 and advocates for something she believes in. That makes it OK to call her a slut, a prostitute and then insult every woman who goes to Georgetown? You guys simply don’t get it ….

  • Sorr to Live in Illinois

    Jane commented:
    Rush is a male chauvist pig. He’s acts like a cave man and it’s no wonder he’s on his 4th wife.
    —–
    I won’t disagree with that. But I bet he pays for his own birth control.

    Meanwhile…how much is gas in your neighborhood? What is oil trading at today? What is the unemployment rate today? What is the value of the dollar? Did you know our corporate tax rate is about to be the largest in the world?

    This whole thing is a diversion, from the whore Georgetown plant to the whore Pelosi. And you are all falling for it.

    With our country’s attention span, Fluke ain’t the only one who’s going to get screwed. My republican party is officially being ran by a bunch of hacks and has-beens. Shame on you all for falling for this bull.

  • KornKing

    #192
    They can’t. Just blow in, make a few smarts remarks, and pat themselves on the back cause they’re so clever.
    A large part of our health care cost problem is due to everyone wanting “something” and wanting “someone else” to pay for it.
    The purpose of “insurance” has been distorted(beginning with Teddy boy’s HMO idea in the 70’s)
    Insurance is intended to protect against catastrophic financial loss.
    Everyone seems to want it to pay for everything, so guess what, the cost is out of hand.
    Adding contraceptive coverage to a health “insurance” plan is simply going to raise everyone’s premiums another 100 bucks a month or so. I’m hoping the employers in the group market start passing some of this on to their employees.

  • winged_spirit

    Let the guys in line pay for it. You want thrill pay the bill. Why should the taxpayer foot the bill? Taxpayers did not get the thrill.

  • Ty

    ‘she reviewed Georgetown’s insurance policy prior to committing to attend’

    So she’s an aspiring ambulance-chaser, i.e. slut.

  • Mutnodjmet

    As a palate cleanser to Fluke, here is another American woman: MUT’s Badass of the Week: KIRA DAVIS

  • DomesticGoddess

    See what you libs have wrought with your free sex and loose morality? Thanks to your “free to do whatever I want” attitude, we have STDs, AIDS, high abortion rate, unwanted children, huge welfare roles, absolute smut on TV and the media, and an endless array of actions showing zero morality. She should have her legs closed until after the honeymoon. I will pay for her contraceptives, as I really don’t want this idiot breeding.

  • bg

    ++

    so Paul..

    i’m really trying to make the connect, and i do understand what
    you’ve proffered in your attempted defense.. however, the only
    seemingly logical conclusion i can come to based on your Viagra
    counter is that perhaps you think she’s not having ENOUGH SEX??

    ==

  • Jessica

    Have any of you ever actually left your homes? What are you so afraid of?

    My father-in-law didn’t go to law school until he was 35. He would probably agree that government has no right to make a law in favor of or against abortion BECAUSE IT’S YOUR OWN BUSINESS. As long as you aren’t asking other people to pay for it, of course.

    And just because one supports women’s rights to contraception, in vitro, medical abortion under certain circumstances (especially if we aren’t controlling erectile dysfunction pills) doesn’t make him or her a “leftist” or “democrat” or “liberal”. Or whichever word you choose. Just reasonable.

    I have better things to do with my life than worry about what some woman I don’t even know is doing with her body. Be serious.

  • TomB

    Why should wives in the 21st century have to find extra money, in addition to what they pay for insurance, so that they aren’t risking their health by having babies every year?

    Why should I be forced to find extra money to pay higher insurance premiums to pay for somebody else’s birth control?

  • Deewane

    Had it been Bill Clinton a meeting would already have been “consummated.”

    This girl is going to the wrong school. She should be going to the University of Nevada in Reno or Las Vegas and “work” in one of the “cat houses” to support her “habit”. Not only could she be the sperm receptacle she is, but she could also get paid for it (which goes along with the sole purpose of life – “Ya don’t get paid, ya don’t laid”), and she could thus purchase her own contraceptives. She could also stream her horizontal activities on adult websites on the internet and make even more money, which would further help to pay for her education and contraceptives.

    Rush, is right. She’s a slut. Not that I have anything against sluts (I knew a few sluts when I was single – fun horizontally – but sluts, like women you meet in bars are certainly not the “marrying” type) – too much trouble.

    Thirty years old and can’t take care of herself. A prime example of liberal adult infantile-ism. I bet her parents are really “proud” of her, too.

  • Carl Ericsson

    To claim you are only upset because you have to *pay* for it (somehow I doubt most ppl posting here are paying much in taxes) is so cheap since you aren’t making the case against healthcare in general, or against paying for example for smokers which would make more sense, but only for contraception, which if it costs so little as some claim shouldn’t be cause to get your pants in a punch. Also attacking the only woman testifying not any of the old fat men. Spell hypocris

    Also still don’t get you guys…you are really practicing abstinence till you’re married? Or if you do not, do you want to be young dads? It’ not a feminime issue, it’s common sense unless you are hardcore Catholic and if you are, nothing forces you to use it. Freedom pls.

  • injunjoe

    @jessica, you can support one’s right to anything, that doesn’t mean you have to financially support them in doing it with my tax $$$…

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Female

    Calling women who choose contraception to space their pregnancies or make sure they can afford a baby all “sluts” is fundamentally WRONG!

    Most excellent strawman, ma’am.

    Nobody’s calling them “all” sluts. Just this one, who, by her own admission, walks and quacks uncannily like that particular duck.

  • Paul

    What I find interesting is that you all seem to think YOU are paying for MY health insurance.

    NONE of you is actually paying for it or anything else. I am the one paying for my health insurance. My employer freely chose to hire me and as part of the contract we negotiated was the provision of health insurance. I actually pay part of it and benefits were discussed as part of my overall deal.

    Get off this YOU are paying. Or taxpayers are paying. Or churches are paying. I am paying for my health insurance and I should get whatever I need.

    It truly is very simple. But because it is so simple, you can’t handle it and you just bring up all sort of irrelevant arguments, non existent facts, insults, etc. etc.

  • TomB

    Spell hypocris

    Beautiful.

  • OCDick

    It’s a mass genocide of strawmen with these proggs. There’ll be more information regarding Ms Fluke coming out soon. As if we haven’t heard enough.

  • Paul

    You are all also very concerned with “freedom”. Of course freedom on only one side. Cause “freedom” of women to choose is not part of your idea of freedom.

    It is also so one sided and so intolerant. Because people that truly believe in freedom, support the freedom of religion people and leaders NOT to use contraception as well as the choice of people that want to use contraception to just use it.

    It is a free world. I really do not care what you use or not in your health plan. I hope you have one and that if you need a particular medicine or treatment, you get it.

    That’s all I care. I think it is absurd to allow anything other than medical needs as decided by doctors and patients to inform medical decisions.

    I am not sure why your freedom NOT to cover anything is ok and the freedom of others to be covered is not!

  • wanwer

    I doubt this fraud is having much sex at all and when she is it’s with another woman (i.e. no contraception necessary). The goal is free healthcare for all women….and beyond THAT, free healthcare for everyone but white heterosexual men.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Paul, what you don’t seem to grasp is that your employer (also a supposedly “free” person or group of people) is being forced, against their will, to pay for something that is against their beliefs.

    Does “free” only apply to employees of a company, and, in that sense, does “free” mean “free to force my employer to buy my abortion pills, abortions, contraceptives”?

    Well, hell. Communication is vital to health — I’m sure the argument could be made, no man is an island, and all that — therefore, I should be able (being a “free” man, and all) to force my employer to provide me with “free” 4G phone service and a high-speed internet connection.

    Your concept of freedom literally enslaves others.

  • bg

    ++

    well Hollywood rules, ain’t that right Mr. President et al??

    ==

  • TomB

    What I find interesting is that you all seem to think YOU are paying for MY health insurance.

    NONE of you is actually paying for it or anything else. I am the one paying for my health insurance. My employer freely chose to hire me and as part of the contract we negotiated was the provision of health insurance. I actually pay part of it and benefits were discussed as part of my overall deal.

    Get off this YOU are paying. Or taxpayers are paying. Or churches are paying. I am paying for my health insurance and I should get whatever I need.

    It truly is very simple. But because it is so simple, you can’t handle it and you just bring up all sort of irrelevant arguments, non existent facts, insults, etc. etc.

    Jesus Paul, can’t you get anything right?

    Nobody here gives a damn about your insurance (except the name since it is so special). What we object to is an institution getting insurance coverage with certain stipulations, only to have YOU come along and force them to cover things they choose not to cover.

    A while back you were all about not getting into the business of deciding what my health insurance covers!

    Your exact words, right?

    What changed so quickly?

  • Stella Baskomb

    #204 “So she’s 30 and advocates for something she believes in. That makes it OK to call her a slut, a prostitute and then insult every woman who goes to Georgetown? You guys simply don’t get it ….”

    Oh, we get it, it’s you who doesn’t.

    The issue is nowhere near what you say it is. Fluke whines that the rest of us owe her free contraceptives, so she can have as much sex as she likes without consequences – while on scholarship at a very pricy law school. That’s the issue.

    Fluke spends whatever money she has elsewhere then demands that I (and you) pay for her contraceptives. That makes Fluke greedy, selfish and self-centered.

    The fact that she lied about her age is beside the point. Lying reveals weak character, but is not the main issue.

    And note well – all this is specifically about Fluke and no one else – it’s about Fluke’s greediness, Fluke’s self-centered behavior, and Fluke’s whining. This does not extend to anyone at Georgetown or anywhere else but Fluke (and only those others, if any, who behave as Fluke does.)

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Women can — with their freedom, Paul — choose which institution in which to enroll, or for whom to work.

    Women, right now, have the “right to choose”. They have the right to choose to work for a company or enroll in a college which provides the exact insurance coverage they desire.

    This woman, CHOSE to enroll in a college which did NOT provide what she desired, and she enrolled for the express, admitted purpose of using activism and eventually the force of law to FORCE the supposedly free people who run Georgetown U to do that which they do not want to do.

    Again, I don’t think you really know what real freedom means.

    She has the freedom, and the undeniable right, to choose to be licentious. She wants the freedom to take freedoms away from others, so that she can also be licentious with no undesirable consequences.

  • Jen

    Your religious freedom doesn’t seem to be doing much for many of you if these comments are any indication. Whore, lesbian, she doesn’t take the salami, I wouldn’t bang her, etc. How on Earth can you claim moral superiority when so many of you are such pigs?

  • OCDick

    Paul, seek help! Erecting strawmen just to mow them down is ridiculous. If something is MANDATED by the government, everyone pays. Do you think that an insurance company that is MANDATED to pay for the product/service won’t pass the cost on to their customers by raising premiums? As long as insurance companies are for profit enterprises, they really don’t have a choice but to pass on the cost of providing said product/service.

  • californian

    From her photo I have to wonder how many guys really are wanting to have sex with her. I imagine if it was a full length photo we’d see her Birkenstocks and hairy legs.

  • Memekiller

    Good God, at 30, if she’s not on the pill, she’s what we used to call a spinster.

  • an observer

    @12, “For men, their No. 1 question, “Where’s the line form?””

    Nope. It’d be “spit or swallow.”

  • Texas_Treeroach

    Is there anything the Government won’t stick its business into?

    Ms Fluke: Seek counseling. — In the meantime, buy a box of binder clips and stop wasting the Government’s (i.e., our) time and money!

  • TomB

    Your religious freedom doesn’t seem to be doing much for many of you if these comments are any indication. Whore, lesbian, she doesn’t take the salami, I wouldn’t bang her, etc. How on Earth can you claim moral superiority when so many of you are such pigs?

    I’m with you. It’s like they’re all a bunch of sinners or something.

    What the heck would they need religion for?

    Oh, wait…….

  • andre

    First, I went to law school. I can’t imagine anyone having that much free time. What about finals, reading hundreds of pages of material a week, studying hours a day? Second, it is nice our president had time to call her. What about calling the people who are losing their homes, what about calling families of service men and women. What about doing some work??? What about appearing in court when your credentials are challenged? What about it?

  • wanumba

    #228 March 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm
    Jen commented:
    Your religious freedom doesn’t seem to be doing much for many of you if these comments are any indication. Whore, lesbian,
    ::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Excuse me, Miss Susan Fluke expressly provided the ‘lesbian’ to argue a compelling ‘contraceptive need.’ She obviously doesn’t agree that it’ an insult, as you are implying

    You sure hate religious people, hatefully lump ALL of profoundly different beliefs into one size fits all stereotype and spread smears about them, yet no ‘religious person’ has been demanding you pay for anything. .. the self-identified lesbian is.

    Who’s the pig here?

  • bg

    ++

    re: #224 March 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm bg

    “it’s the right thing to do”

    “science based”

    [But communists could not be wrong. After all, their knowledge was scientific, based on historical materialism, an understanding of the dialectical process in nature and human society, and a materialist (and thus realistic) view of nature. Marx has shown empirically where society has been and why, and he and his interpreters proved that it was destined for a communist end. No one could prevent this, but only stand in the way and delay it at the cost of more human misery. Those who disagreed with this world view and even with some of the proper interpretations of Marx and Lenin were, without a scintilla of doubt, wrong. After all, did not Marx or Lenin or Stalin or Mao say that. . . . In other words, communism was like a fanatical religion. It had its revealed text and chief interpreters. It had its priests and their ritualistic prose with all the answers. It had a heaven, and the proper behavior to reach it. It had its appeal to faith. And it had its crusade against nonbelievers.

    What made this secular religion so utterly lethal was its seizure of all the state’s instrument of force and coercion and their immediate use to destroy or control all independent sources of power, such as the church, the professions, private businesses, schools, and, of course, the family.

    and OT.. Obama repeatedly used the phrase
    “When the revolution comes….”
    must reads..

    ==

  • Mutnodjmet

    Kira Davis, the Tea Party activist who produced the awesome video “apology” smackdown of Team Obama for the Koran Burning kow-tow now has a new one: Dear Ms.Sandra Fluke: I Don’t Wanna Pay for Your Sex

  • Jen

    I’m with you. It’s like they’re all a bunch of sinners or something.

    What the heck would they need religion for?

    Oh, wait…….

    Ahhhhhh. . . so Republicans need church to act even remotely moral and otherwise they’re like a pack of wild hyenas. I get it. Democrats just act like human beings without a priest yelling at us that we’ll otherwise go to Hell. So silly of us, thinking humans know how to be decent to one another. My mistake.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    #228 Jen

    Well, unlike the Left, the commenters at GP are not a “collective” or a hive.

    Please address your criticisms to individuals, not the whole.

    BTW: Have you witnessed the vitriol, venom, and vituperation directed toward conservatives by “many commenters” at, say, Daily KOS, Huffington Post, or even your average YouTube or Washington Post thread? We’re talking death wishes, death threats, direct violence-incitements, and words which are FAR more offensive than “slut”.

  • kato

    John Boehner responded with harsh criticism — for Rush Limbaugh.

    Hugh Hewitt just got done chastising Rush on his nationally syndicated radio program. Fast-talkin’ Hughie, for all his extolling of new media, will probably not discover this story until next Wednesday. In the meantime, he’ll be on to other things and shilling for other causes.

    The clueless Clueless Party.

    This is certainly not the way Breitbart would have handled matters.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Hey Jen:

    Seen any death-wishes, death threats, or imaginings of violence against Ms. Fluke on this thread?

    No graphic-designed posters of her being punched by a fist?

    Google: “Punch Palin” for the goods.

    And that’s just the tip of the “progressive” Buzz Windrip’s Minute Men-style hatred.

    If the hatred by “many” (to put it mildly) on the Left had somehow escaped your notice.

  • Redwine

    This is about the destruction of the the Constitution, in general, and the First Amendment, in particular. Nothing more.

    It’s the regime’s political agenda.

    Just listen to the first hour of today’s Mark Levin show (in progress now). Then you will understand what this is really about.

  • Jen

    Kato, first of all, nice alliteration on the first sentence. Second:

    Unreal. This was all just a big dishonest Democrat ploy to take the attention off of Barack Obama’s assault on religious freedom.

    I found the base level of some of the commenters here (I’m not going through this thread and numbering them all, come on, I said ‘many’ for the sake of effciency, not to be disingenuous) to be particularly ironic given that set up by Hoft.

    As for the publications you mentioned, yes, Internet discourse in general is not the height of intelligence or good manners. Sure. The readership here is still pretty gross, sorry.

  • I don’t see the regular monikers saying nasty things. As a matter of fact, the comments that are disparaging, are from monikers that I’ve never see before. Most likely, Jen is the same person using the disparaging remarks, only to use a different moniker to smear everyone at GP regarding the boorish comments.

  • TomB

    Democrats just act like human beings without a priest yelling at us that we’ll otherwise go to Hell.

    Andrew Breitbart was unavailable to comment, although Twitter never forgets.

    Also, the numerous women raped and sexually assaulted, along with all the other people who had crimes committed against them at Occupy events were likewise advised to keep their damn mouths shut.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Hell, I’ll do it for you, since you are probably (a hallmark of the Left) lazily incurious:

    http://scottthong.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/liketopunchpalin.jpg?w=450

    That was a VERY popular image among progressives.

    Then again, progressives did send Ms. Bautsch and Mr. Brown to the hospital with many broken bones, just because they were Dreaded Republicans. All the justification they needed.

    Ideas expressing the hoped-for violence against particular conservatives are also VERY popular among the Left.

    As always.

  • Nosmo

    If I pay for her birth control can my dog have sex with her?

  • TomB

    Missed this:

    My mistake.

    Er, yep.

  • wanumba

    Miss Fluke isn’t much of a feminist if she expects big daddy government to pay for her bills.

    If our pioneer women were this thumb-sucking dependent, the west never would have been settled.

  • Memekiller

    http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-sandra-fluke-2012-3

    According to a bio on Georgetown’s website, Fluke’s professional background is in domestic violence and human trafficking advocacy. At Georgetown law, she is the former president of Law Students for Reproductive Justice, an editor for the Journal of Gender and the Law, and vice president of the Women’s Legal Alliance. She has a bachelor’s degree in Feminist, Gender & Sexuality studies from Cornell.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-sandra-fluke-2012-3#ixzz1o0TYp8RC

  • Jen

    Oh, for goodness sake, here’s some of the dazzling commentary here. And no, there are no death threats. I’m impressed.

    #1 March 2, 2012 at 1:28 pm
    Fuquay Steve commented:

    Rumor has it she’s a man.

    #3 March 2, 2012 at 1:34 pm
    Redwine commented:

    So she really is an activist whore.

    #8 March 2, 2012 at 1:40 pm
    pink tie Republican commented:

    Tghis plain Jane skeezer ain’t gonna need no contraxception, as no man in his right mind would give her any play.

    #15 March 2, 2012 at 1:45 pm
    NorthernX commented:

    Not surprised. I bet she’s not into rockin’ the salami either…

    #20 March 2, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    MoreLiberty commented:

    Since when do lesbians need birth control?

    #41 March 2, 2012 at 2:13 pm
    Paddy commented:

    She obviously thinks sex is a sport that can be played both indoors and outdoors. Her ploy is to enlarge the concept of contraceptive entitlement to include free sneakers so that she can run better from one engagement to the next one.

    #74 March 2, 2012 at 2:58 pm
    Gary B. commented:

    I hope she gets herpes, but I suspect she already has.

    #105 March 2, 2012 at 3:25 pm
    mackykam commented:

    She could lots of money by learning to swallow!

    and on and on. So pardon me if I can’t believe anyone in the GOP who claims to uphold family values, now or ever.

  • Really??

    I sadly stumbled across this page when googling Ms Fluke to learn more about her. What I learned is that ignorant mean people like to cluster and reinforce their mutual ignorance and meanness. With a few exceptions of people apparently trying to engage in rational discussion, most of the people on here seem pathetic. The ugly thoughts you express about a woman you don’t know who merely wants to make her OWN decisions about her OWN body make me sad for you.

  • Jen

    I don’t see the regular monikers saying nasty things. As a matter of fact, the comments that are disparaging, are from monikers that I’ve never see before. Most likely, Jen is the same person using the disparaging remarks, only to use a different moniker to smear everyone at GP regarding the boorish comments.

    Yes, dear, it’s all a conspiracy. *Pats your head*.

  • Jen, and none of those monikers are used by regular GP commenters.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    HuffPo, among others, shuts down comments when they post an article about Dick Cheney going to the hospital for a finger-injury — for the reason that MOST OF the comments are death-wishes, and kinda make the left look like people who would love working for Chairman Mao, Joseph Stalin, or Che Guevara. Which most of them would, for the fun and joy that sort of work would bring them.

    Jen you need to understand something called “perspective”, and another thing called “scale”.

    For every violent and demonstrably fascist act you can cite where conservative- vs. -“progressive” politics is implicated, I can find you TEN where progressives were the bad actors.

    There simply is no valid comparison — like comparing a 1972 VW Beetle to a Lamborgini.

    Or a “mote” to a “beam”, if you get my drift.

  • Check it out for yourself genius. I’m sure you can figure out how to search the archives.

  • wanumba

    251 March 2, 2012 at 5:52 pm
    Memekiller commented:

    Wow!
    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Cornell undergraduate is a WHOPPING $59,500 year

    tp://www.finaid.cornell.edu/

    Susan FLUKE got GENDER STUDIES DEGREE that cost $240,000 ??!!??????!!!!!

    NOW she’s in LAW SCHOOL at GEORGETOWN at $52,000 a YEAR and she and her friends need a 100% SUBSIDY for birth control?

    Sorry you Leftiest trolls, this is CLASS STRUGGLE about FILTHY RICH against the struggling Middle Class. A 1% power operator against the common folk.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    #253

    Don’t let the screen door hitchya, where the good lord splitchya!

  • Jen

    @Taqiyyotomist, I’ve never seen that Sarah Palin graphic before and I agree with you, it’s disgusting.

  • Memekiller

    Can anyone show a quote where she says she needs pills for sex? She testified a friend lost an ovary because she couldn’t get a necessary prescription. As far as we know from what she’s testified, she’s a 30 year-old virgin post-grad editor of a law journal.

  • wanumba

    #252 March 2, 2012 at 5:55 pm
    Jen commented:

    Oh, for goodness sake, here’s some of the dazzling commentary here
    ::::::::::::::

    What’s more interesting is what you OMITTED to protect your “point.”

  • Missy8s

    STOP BEING SLUTS!

    CONTROL YOURSELVES!

    STOP BEING ANIMALS!

    CLOSE YOUR LEGS LADIES!

    HOLSTER YOUR WEAPONS BOYS!

    CONTROL YOURSELVES!

    YOU ARE NOT ANIMALS!

    BE HUMAN BEINGS!

    GROW UP!

    CONTROL YOURSELVES!

    CONTROL YOURSELVES!

    STOP BEING SLUTS!

    #ForAndrew

  • Jen

    Jen, and none of those monikers are used by regular GP commenters.

    OK, I’ve never commented here before either — this story has gone viral. I think it’s safe to assume lots of non-regulars are here. The only comments from my IP address are attributed to this name, and I promise you I’m not flying all over the country logging in to different computers. 🙂

  • bg

    ++

    Mutnodjmet #238 March 2, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    8) thank you!!

    ==

  • wanumba

    #253 March 2, 2012 at 5:56 pm
    Really?? commented:

    I sadly stumbled across this page when googling Ms Fluke to learn more about her.

    ::::::::::::::::

    I like your nic… really? really? You did what … and found … here? really?

  • an observer

    You leftists know, don’t you, that she committed a felony by lying about her age?

  • Jen

    @wanumba, my only point was ever that some of the posters here are gross, and I found that ironic/hypocritical/funny/sad in light of the author’s “religious freedom” comment. That’s it.

  • Medical Doctor

    As a practicing physician for 46 years, I have 2 comments. This assault on the constitution is just one effect of the disaster known as the “Affordable Care Act” also known as Obamacare. Unfortunately Rush does our cause a diisservice by giving the liberals something to criticize. That is his misunderstanding of the fact that you need the same number of birth control pills per month whether you are having sex one time or a thousand times.

  • Golden

    On the seizure case, she doesn’t need contraception, she needs hormone therapy. The Pill is a hormone.

  • wanumba

    #261 March 2, 2012 at 6:02 pm
    Memekiller commented:

    Can anyone show a quote where she says she needs pills for sex? She testified a friend lost an ovary because she couldn’t get a necessary prescription. As far as we know from what she’s testified, she’s a 30 year-old virgin post-grad editor of a law journal.
    ::::::::::::::::::::::

    Her friend lost her vocal cords too, and can’t speak on her own behalf? How come we’re only gettign HERESAY.. (THat’ a legal term about non-admissable in any court they teach ya’ll in Law School)

  • Mitch Rapp

    Even Bill Clinton buttoned his fly when he heard how old she was and what her background was – He wants em innocent.

  • wanumba

    #269 March 2, 2012 at 6:05 pm
    Medical Doctor commented:

    As a practicing physician for 46 years, I have 2 comments. This assault on the constitution is just one effect of the disaster known as the “Affordable Care Act” also known as Obamacare.

    Unfortunately Rush does our cause a diisservice by giving the liberals something to criticize. That is his misunderstanding of the fact that you need the same number of birth control pills per month whether you are having sex one time or a thousand times.
    :::::::::::::::::::::::

    Rush was only going on the information Susan Fluke pretend “testified” about. By her financial calculations, she needs so much money a day, which greatly exceeds a single pill. Maybe Fluke doesn’t know a pill is once a day so she overcalculated?

    Rush got that from FLUKE. WHy is it his fault it looks stupid? Maybe she should have gotten a BUSINESS DEGREE or even ANY MEDICAL degree before she started spouting unsubstantiated financial projections.

    Gads. Susan Fluke gives women a bad name – like they can’t handle finance and “hard” subjects.

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  • Taqiyyotomist

    I wonder if there exists a “BDSM Studies” class, wherein the students learn to lobby for their right to insurance-covered BDSM supplies?

    I mean, you know, they’re “born that way” and all, and can only get off on whips, chains, and torture racks!

    I should have to pay for their yearly budget for ball-gags and zipper-mouthed gimp suits, shouldn’t I?

    And what about dirty-shoe fetishists, who, “born that way” can only get off sniffing dirty shoes? I should have to pay for their access to dirty shoes, right?

  • R

    Yes? Did you think that she arrived in the position to testify before Congress on the issue by just being a random person trying to get birth control pills at the university clinic? Being who she is doesn’t change the fact that she felt it was an unjust policy. And the issue is not that anyway, the issue is that it is entirely inappropriate to cast aspersions on the morality of a person you don’t even know in a public forum as a public personality. I bet his mom would have smacked him for saying that if she were there. He disagrees with her politics so he suggests she’s a slut, a prostitute, and she should film herself having sex so we can at least all watch it for our money? How is that even my money? We’re not talking about taxpayer funded contraception, we’re talking about her insurance plan. And what sort of creepy pervert wants her to film herself so he can watch later anyway? And is it really that horrible to think that a 30 year old has sex? Are there actually that many 30 year old virgins reading this? Or does Rush simply prefer that we all have sex without any birth control like good Republicans? Your party is a bunch of creepy weirdos, her life and what’s going on between her legs is none of my business, and that’s why I can’t bring myself to be conservative anymore.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    #260 Jen

    That image is one in a million. Tip of the Progressive iceberg.

    google “Zombie hall of shame” to see that which you will never see on the Today show or the nightly news.

  • Mitch Rapp

    The amount of time and money she spends on getting contraceptives and performances must really take away from her professorial participation. group studies and secual activities. I was always under the impression law school was difficult and all you did was study, do case studies and argue cases in class.

    Maybe she should take ethnic studies or finger painting.

  • Memekiller

    Okay, where does the slut stuff come from? I just read Fluke’s entire testimony, and she does not admit once to being sexually active. Of the cases she mentions, the only ones that had sexual intercourse were raped and married – and not allowed contraception. All the others needed the medication for medical reasons that threatened their lives and ability to have children.

  • OK, I’ve never commented here before either — this story has gone viral. I think it’s safe to assume lots of non-regulars are here.

    Jen, I comment here regularly, and MOST(not all) the regulars who comment are usually respectful until someone makes a blanket statement about EVERYONE that reads the blog is [fill in the insult]. It’s not beyond people to leave boorish remarks at a blog they don’t care for just to make it seem as though the blog author and its readership condone those types of comments. If we don’t immediately disavow the remarks, then we’re accused of agreeing with the comments. If you don’t care for the comment, then call out the moniker that made the remark rather than chastise all of us.

  • wanumba

    #275 March 2, 2012 at 6:17 pm
    Taqiyyotomist commented:

    I wonder if there exists a “BDSM Studies” class, wherein the students learn to lobby for their right to insurance-covered BDSM supplies?
    :::::::::::::::

    Hopeless. Susan Fluke wasn’t even intellectually capable to run a basic cost/benefit analysis on a $240,000 Gender Studies diploma.

  • Brent Hickel

    Like all of you with your poisoned brains, Miss Fluke has a right go to law school and press for a basic right we have all shared for almost 50 years. I applaud her for her calm and composed response to the Rush balloon’s comments!

  • I think this whole subject is disgusting. Georgetown should show her the door. & her parents should go into hiding for raising this NYMPHO. To discuss this on national TV, is unbelievable, & BOB telling her to tell her parents they should be proud of her is certainly something the president should not even be aware of. I think we have more pertinent matters that he should attend to. I think she needs Dr, Kinsey, or Dr, Ruth or get a life.

  • BetseyRoss

    Rush is right. Mess with Rush at your own peril, Libs.

  • Brent Hickel

    I do wish those without a brain in their head would go out an buy one so they can write a sensible comment!

  • wanumba

    #279 March 2, 2012 at 6:19 pm
    Memekiller commented:

    Okay, where does the slut stuff come from? I just read Fluke’s entire testimony,
    ::::::::::::::::::::

    WHat do you mean, ‘testimony?” WHy are you giving her credibility she doesn’t deserve?

    SHe was not sworn in, she has no credentials in medicine, she offered heresay, no valid research. The Left SCREAMS that the “religious right” is anti-science .. but where oh where is the scientific rigor applied to Susan Fluke? Where’s her “data?”

    She told a couple of uncorroborated stories and pulled numbers out of her butt.

  • Jen

    Jen, I comment here regularly, and MOST(not all) the regulars who comment are usually respectful until someone makes a blanket statement about EVERYONE that reads the blog is [fill in the insult].

    I mentioned a number of the posters who I found offensive by name and number; all of those posts were made previous to my initial one. I don’t expect you all agree with those remarks, not at all — I get very irritated when an article appears to take the moral high road and any of the comments are hat amount to gross catcalls. However, this is the Internet, and I guess it should all be taken with a grain of salt.

  • Robert

    #279 Memekiller

    Of the cases she mentions, the only ones that had sexual intercourse were raped and married – and not allowed contraception. All the others needed the medication for medical reasons that threatened their lives and ability to have children.

    What is the relative number of these cases that are mentioned? Aren’t they advocating for “free” birth control for everybody?

    This is what they do, they use fringe exceptions to the norm to justify a complete upheaval of the status quo.

    Thus they want the general public to pay for them to avoid the consequences of their actions.

  • Trent Hincky

    Yes, she shouldn’t be allowed to go to law school. I’m sure that’s what this is all about. That RIF bus never made it to my block.

  • Liz

    Grandma is still promiscuous? Wild.

  • After Seven

    Sandra Fluke’s professional background in domestic violence and human trafficking began with Sanctuary for Families in New York City. There, she launched the agency’s pilot Program Evaluation Initiative. While at Sanctuary, she co-founded the New York Statewide Coalition for Fair Access to Family Court, which after a twenty-year stalemate, successfully advocated for legislation granting access to civil orders of protection for unmarried victims of domestic violence, including LGBTQ victims and teens. Sandra was also a member of the Manhattan Borough President’s Taskforce on Domestic Violence and numerous other New York City and New York State coalitions that successfully advocated for policy improvements impacting victims of domestic violence.

    As the 2010 recipient of the Women Lawyers Association of Los Angeles Fran Kandel Public Interest Grant, she researched, wrote, and produced an instructional film on how to apply for a domestic violence restraining order in pro per. She has also interned with the Coalition to Abolish Slavery & Trafficking; Polaris Project; Neighborhood Legal Services of Los Angeles County; Break the Cycle; the Domestic Violence Legal Empowerment and Appeals Project; NOW Legal Defense and Education Fund; Crime Victim and Sexual Assault Services; and the Human Services Coalition of Tompkins County.

    Through Georgetown’s clinic programs, Sandra has conducted proposed legislation based on fact-finding in Kenya regarding child trafficking for domestic work, and has represented victims of domestic violence in protection order cases. Sandra is the Development Editor of the Journal of Gender and the Law, and served as the President of Law Students for Reproductive Justice, and the Vice President of the Women’s Legal Alliance. In her first year, she also co-founded a campus committee addressing human trafficking. Cornell University awarded her a B. S. in Policy Analysis & Management, as well as Feminist, Gender, & Sexuality Studies in 2003. http://t.co/uYAaXduW

  • SandiK

    Seems like a lot of people are getting off mark here. Simple fact is the women that work for Catholic institutions that want contraception have been managing just fine up till now. Forcing them (Catholics) to offer this when it is against their religious teachings is just wrong and unConstitutional. Now, if you want to argue about BC pills used for other reasons, you have a valid argument. But then they aren’t BC pills. They are simply medication for an illness. We have to stop the government from controlling every aspect of our lives. Birth control is NOT a RIGHT! If you want to have sex and don’t want to get pregnant, get your own BC. Condoms prevent pregnancy AND protect from STD’s but since YOU are having sex, YOU need to pay for it. I pay for my own and I darn shootin straight have no interest in paying for yours!
    And people, seriously, this isn’t about her appearance. She portrayed herself as a person who just HAPPENED to go to GT and is telling her story. She isn’t ‘stuck’ going to a school that doesn’t offer BC. She CHOSE one that didn’t. Not ONE SINGLE ounce of sympathy for her.
    Y’all have a wonderful day!

  • wanumba

    Susan Fluke with a $240,000 undergrad degree and four year $240,000 graduate degree will expect Obama to BAIL her out of her college loans.

    College loan bailout was the Number ONE demand of the Ivy League #OWS crowd. Fluke is a $500,000 ie half a milliondollar present to the taxpayers.

  • Robert

    #29 SandiK

    Well said.

  • Marie

    Wouldn’t it just be cheaper for Susan Fluke to give blowjobs? No contraception needed.

  • squeaky

    “Miss Fluke has a right go to law school and press for a basic right we have all shared for..” her right should not come at the expense of another’s right. while she has the right to go to law school she wasn’t forced to go to Georgetown. in approving her right you deny another their right.

  • Trent Hincky

    Can somebody buy me some birth control, I need to fluke real bad.

  • JaneS

    Oh. My. God. People really do just hear what they want to hear. The evil gas bag freak just happened to insult someone with some intelligence that took the time to stand up to him. And the Rush zombies out there can’t seem to handle that.

  • Former Registered Republican

    Yes, because of people like the author of this article and because of those who continue deriding Sandra Fluke, Republican Party lost my vote and encouraged me to give money to the Democrats, although I am not a registered Democrat. The day Republican men start losing their balls and lives to the testicle cancer because hormonal treatment is not available to them will be a day of justice. Even a 5-th grader would understand that Fluke spoke about married Catholic women who would lose ability to reproduce good Catholic kids if they cannot get a specific contraceptive medicine for a while. More so, their already present good Catholic kids may lose their mommy if she gets pregnant. But who cares about women – certainly not the men in power.
    I was never a feminist and would never have abortion for myself, but Republican Party is making me an activist to support women’s issues. Sandra Fluke for President in 2016!

  • Georgetown Fluking & Glee Club

    I can sing and fluke at the same time!

  • squeaky

    “..Simple fact is the women that work for Catholic institutions that want contraception have been managing just fine up till now. Forcing them (Catholics) to offer this when it is against..”
    and when they accepted employment they accepted it with the benefits offered.

  • wanumba

    #298 March 2, 2012 at 6:45 pm
    JaneS commented:

    Oh. My. God. People really do just hear what they want to hear.

    ::::::::::::::::::::

    We heard she wants US to PAY for contraceptives … on the grounds that her lesbian friend needed it for another reason.

    Strip it all down to the essential : PAY ME.

    Reply: STUFF IT.

  • wanumba

    #299 March 2, 2012 at 6:46 pm
    Former Registered Republican commented:
    Yes, because of people like the author of this article and because of those who continue deriding Sandra Fluke, Republican Party lost my vote and encouraged me to give money to the Democrats, although I am not a registered Democrat
    ::::::::::::::::::::::

    That’s Liberal women for ya.

  • Georgetown Fluking & Glee Club

    I’ve been a Christian Conservative Service member all my life, and because of Rush Limbaugh, I’ve turned to the Democratic Party. See, I wouldn’t come to a conservative blog and lie, or anything. I’m totally serious! I’m done with Republicants(see what I did there). I’m getting rid of my white hood and sheets, quiting my church, and plan to fluke my brains out.

  • bg

    ++

    #300 March 2, 2012 at 6:46 pm
    Georgetown Fluking & Glee Club

    OMG!! ROTF 😆 MBO!!

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    #304 March 2, 2012 at 6:52 pm
    Georgetown Fluking & Glee Club

    doubling over!!

    ==

  • Antimedia

    After reading the comments, I’ve come to realize why America is collapsing. It’s infested with profoundly stupid people.

  • Marie

    I am a Christian Republican and have voted a straight Republican ticket my whole life, but you crazy right wingers have angered me so much I am going to vote DEMOCRAT from now on! See how mad you have made me by making fun of Susan Fluke? See????!!!1!!

  • Georgetown Fluking & Glee Club

    After reading the comments, I’ve come to realize why America is collapsing. It’s infested with profoundly stupid people.

    After reading your comment, I couldn’t agree more. How profoundly stupid do you think you are? And don’t see yourself short!

  • Georgetown Fluking & Glee Club

    see s/b sell

  • wanumba

    Susan Fluke’s defense team weighs in:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW1X35PTmUE&feature=related

  • bg

    ++

    SandiK #292 March 2, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    nah, think most are just having a little fun.. 😉

    ==

  • Robert

    Any of you crybabys who can’t find or afford contraceptives call Mark Levin right now and make your case. As of 8:16 pm EST the lines are open.

  • Bubba

    The only contraception this she-male is using is a condom. Take a look at her. Of COURSE she’s a womyn’s activist. She looks like a cartoon version of the typical manly bitter activist. Who is she kidding…SHE sure as hell isn’t spending 3k on contraception, unless she’s spending an equal amount on bags to put on her head while she’s pounded from behind…with the lights OFF.

  • donh

    Amazing how Ms Fluck not only looks like Sigourney Weaver …she has created such a media horror storm it feels like some monster parasite is about to burst out of her stomach ….> http://youtu.be/XvEmC1Bkyqc

  • Stella Baskomb

    #253 stated “The ugly thoughts you express about a woman you don’t know who merely wants to make her OWN decisions about her OWN body make me sad for you.”

    . . . yeah, but paid for with OTHER PEOPLE’s MONEY.

    That is the part that has people torked off – – including me, because I’m one of the other people who will be dinged to pay for Fluke’s personal, recreational behavior.

    BTW, so are you.

  • Redwine

    #313 March 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm
    Robert commented:

    Any of you crybabys who can’t find or afford contraceptives call Mark Levin right now and make your case. As of 8:16 pm EST the lines are open.

    ____________________

    I love the guy who called about trying to find condoms in Greece many years ago!!

    Once again, Levin deftly proves that the issue is not about “health” or “rights”. It’s about our liberty, about the First Amendment, and how the regime is destroying it.

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  • SandiK

    Sorry, but anyone who says they’ve been a lifelong Republican and they are now voting Dem is lying, to us or themselves, I don’t know. I’ve been very, very disenchanted with the Republican Party of late but there is NO WAY this chickypoo would ever, EVER go to the dark side. I consider myself more of an independent. I believe this is (was) the greatest country ever when the Constitution was more than butt wipe for the left. We need to get away from ‘fundamentally transforming’ this country and back to the Constitution. We either do that or we’re doomed.

  • Robert

    Re: #313

    After 20 minutes, a nationally broadcast radio show with 8 million listeners could not get ONE single caller to state that they had ANY difficulty getting birth control.

    So, Gateway Pundit called it right.

    “This was all just a big dishonest Democrat ploy to take the attention off of Barack Obama’s assault on religious freedom.”

    Case closed, see yah!

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  • KPel

    she is so full of crap! she is not an MD! seizures are not controlled by birth control! Often times they are controlled by topamax etc! She is just a liberal tool telling a story making sound like this is a necessary medication. Don’t be fooled by her B.S.!

  • SO what you are saying is Rush Limbaugh was paid by the Democratic party to attack her on the radio?

  • Jen 268
    You do know that some times people who express religious freedom do in fact freely choose to do things you may think un-religious like. It is what free people do.

  • Jose Gonzales

    I will pay for her contraceptives if she give me a “Lewinsky” at least once a month.

  • Fuquay Steve

    When will we re-discover virtue? This so-called young woman has lost hers and by reading about it, i feel I’ve lost what little left I had. Your parents must be proud.

  • Tom in CA

    After Seven:

    after all that, she became a HOOKER!

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  • FurryGuy

    #308 March 2, 2012 at 6:56 pm
    Marie commented:

    I am a Christian Republican….

    And I’m the Queen of America.

    Yeah, us EEEEEEEEVILLLLLLLLLLL! right wingers are so EEEEEEEEEEEVILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL! We all want a Theocracy. Even when I’m an agnostic.

    You did earn your trolling paycheck today.

  • Ed

    WALMART on their website offer the following :

    Fertility and prescription birth control will also be included at $9, compared to national average prices ranging from $24 to $30 per month and saving women an estimated $15 to $21 per month – $180 to $250 annually.

    So 3 years of law school is 36 months * $9 month = $324 total …NOT $3,000 ! LIARS !!!

    This is all about attacking the Church. The biggest obstacle to the Progressive Humanist Nightmare is free thinking persons who believe in a higher being that is not B.H.O.

  • SandiK

    OK, Fuquay Steve, you wouldn’t happen to be a Fuquay, as in NC, Steve, would ya?

  • greg-n-houston

    thirty years draws attention here? what a bunch of dinosaurs!

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  • Mad Hatter

    After reading some of these comments, I can see the Daily Kook children, and the Media Matters mutts are trying to make Sandra “sleep around” Fluke a ‘victim’ of “Conservatives attack on women’s rights”.

    Talk about a staged event. I just wonder how long the DNC has been prepping this chic for her “testimony” at the Pelosi Circus the other day?

  • Sex is a behavior (whether or not you like men, woman, little boys or horses) not a right, forcing businesses to pay for birth control is like forcing them to pay for hangover medicine.
    insurance is the concept of putting money aside from many persons to pay for the needs of the few in the event that such is needed. The plan is that more will pay than will need, allowing the funds to grow to a point that will cover expenses that one person can’t afford on his/her own, the more expenses you add to the plan the more difficult it will be to maintain that fund and then prices will have to be raised on all the covered persons.
    What we have here is the same as if auto insurance were to pay for gas oil and air in the tires because well 90% of drives use these things and they could save much more money if the cars have good tire pressure because they may be less likely to get in a wreak on a rainy day.
    the big thing here is these stories are straw men used to set up the push to force the Church to pay for abortion thru their private contracts with their insurers and employers by government dictate. It is very much the government intruding into the private arrangement between employer and employee for the purpose of imposing the politically mandated goal of 1920s eugenicist.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    #335 Gwillie

    Excellent comment!!

    Sex is a behavior (whether or not you like men, woman, little boys or horses) not a right, forcing businesses to pay for birth control is like forcing them to pay for hangover medicine.

    Indeed! And, for the thick-skulled who are obviously among us: Alcohol, like sex, is legal and permissible in our society. You can screw. You can get falling-down drunk! Both have natural and inevitable consequences. I should not have to pay for the consequences of the (even legal, allowable, and rightful) behavior in which you CHOSE to engage.

    For so-called “liberals”, the Holy Writ of Separation of Church and State…

    …IS A ONE-WAY STREET.

  • The Elector of Saxony

    “Democrats just act like human beings without a priest yelling at us that we’ll otherwise go to Hell. So silly of us, thinking humans know how to be decent to one another. My mistake.”

    Well, you Democrats do advocate for child murder, both in and out of the womb..sooo not so decent really are ya? Obama forbade nurses and doctors from saving the lives of near-full -term aborted children who survived the execution chamber..I mean convenience procedure.

    Look at a sonogram of a 3 month old baby in utero. Now imagine it being sliced apart by Democrat knives. That’s you and yours. People who would rather see a child murdered than be inconvenienced and have to stop partying, smoking dope, staying thin and sleeping with partner after partner day after day. You’re Dogs and nothing more. All of you. You have no morals that could be called “human” because you don’t believe there is anything particularly special about “human” life as compared to animal life. Google Peter Singer. He’s YOUR’S Those guys in Australia who want to kill babies born with disabilities, that’s YOU. So decent. So moral. So into murdering disabled and inconvenient babies. I wonder who else murdered the disabled? I can’t remember back to the 40’s.

    The left can’t understand anything more complex than rap lyrics, so there is little point arguing with them. They think everything they want is a “right” in the Constitution. Of course, they all think separation of Church and State is in the Constitution and they don’t really understand what the “established Church of England” means. Most of them had History taught to them by coaches who were reading out of an Arne Duncan (Fisting Man!) text book. That’s the reason the word “establishment” is in the Constitution. It means a State Church. Not what you Leftists think it means.

    The issue here is not contraception in the abstract. No one is challenging a woman’s right to have it, or a Dr’s right to prescribe it. The new Socialist Health Law grants HHS complete control over the health insurance system. HHS has required all insurance plans to provide free contraception. This is problem for certain religious employers. There is a long tradition in both statutory and decisional law that provides for religious exemptions based upon conscience. HHS denies that such a legal tradition exists. Many religious people object to being required by HHS to pay for contraception for others who want it. The Obama administration is arguing that it can regulate the health care market because every transaction in health care has an impact on every person and every other transaction in the United States. That’s THEIR OWN COMMERCE CLAUSE ARGUMENT! So, what HHS requires of insurers is attributed to all of us, religious and not.

    Some object on religious grounds, some of us object because now that HHS sets the coverage limits and thus, the pricing for health insurance throughout the market, every required coverage is really a tax on all of us. Perhaps some of us believe that other mandates are superior to contraception, and that we’d rather be taxed by our own policies to cover more care for the elderly and for cancer patients rather than being required to cover something with a purely political rationale. Most health care plans don’t cover all birth control today. What’s the urgency? Politics and that’s all.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Ed:

    This is all about attacking the Church. The biggest obstacle to the Progressive Humanist Nightmare is free thinking persons who believe in a higher being that is not B.H.O.

    And, even worse, a higher being who is even higher than B.H.O. — and One who elected US.

    Hey, Obamaphiles and Maophiles and Stalinophiles: POLYCARP LIVES.

  • KornKing

    #308 Marie
    Republican? My ass
    Vote Dem, enjoy the screwing you’re going to get

  • skytag

    Typical right-wing behavior. Someone does something you don’t like and you go straight for the personal attack and character assassination. So she’s an activist. Couldn’t people in the Tea Party be considered activists? Has she broken any laws? Why does it matter how old she is? What has she done that’s actually wrong, as opposed to just doing something you don’t like? Seems to me you just don’t like people making waves in the status quo. Why didn’t you tell us Obama is divisive after spewing your hatred? Too exhausted?

  • Chris

    I haven’t seen or heard a liberal yet who didn’t lie through their teeth when they wanted everyone else to pay for their morals challenged lifestyles. This is just one more liberal cretin who makes up lies to get what she wants.

    Let her sell her ass on the street on the week ends and then she can can afford all the rubbers she needs to sleep with all the college boys that she wants to during the week.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    KornKing:

    I’m betting Marie’s comment there was satire and sarcasm all rolled into one.

    Based on the three previous comments by three “different” mobys to similar effect.

    Rush’s “seminar callers” as he called them have not changed tactics in more than twenty years, and Marie recognized it — kudos to her!

    She needs to learn to end sarcastic or satirical posts with “/” or “///” or, in this case, “//////////////sarc!!!” (since that one was so close to the mark that it was damn near indistinguishable from a real Moby-Libtard comment.)

    Guessing here, but I bet I’m right.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    skytag

    Expressing (per the First Amendment) criticism of this woman, who is also freely exercising the same right, DOES NOT EQUAL “ATTACKING”.

    Google “Bautsch and Brown” for an example that may clarify your confusion on the word “attack”.

    Love the turnspeak, though. Orwell would be proud. As would various Nazi and Communist propaganda experts from Goebbels to Alinsky.

  • KornKing

    Taq
    You may be right-but I’mseeing red over this garbage and don’t take those possibilities into account

  • Former Registered Republican

    It just amazing how the same very people who go on a rage when a teenage girl wants an abortion then magically disappear when she gives birth to the unwanted child and raises another alcoholic or drug addict. Then the same very caring people will deny her money to go to college because it would be public assistance and she should be working instead of relying on the handouts. But they will instead fund jails and police departments to keep themselves safe!

    Get your story straight, right wingers: you either adopt all those unwanted babies or stop crying about poor babies that would be just about to be murdered. You are the murderers, not the women who you chase like cat chases a mouse!

  • bg

    ++

    #345 March 2, 2012 at 9:47 pm
    Former Registered Republican

    BULLS_HIT!!

    ==

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  • gem

    who cares how old she is or is she’s always been a champion of women’s rights? this woman is right and the gop’s war on women is wrong

  • bg

    ++

    GOP’s war on women??

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!

    ==

  • Mitch

    Taqiyyotomist

    The first amendment doesn’t make ad hominem arguments sound. Feel free to say what you like, but sophistry is sophistry.

  • jackva

    wow — i haven’t seen repubicans this sick since limbaugh farted during the kool-aid fest a few months ago.

  • Terry Davis

    You state that Ms. Fluke is a women’s rights activist as though that immediately disqualifies her opinion or diminishes it in some way. Rush Limbaugh is just an entertainer. Why is his opinion of greater worth than hers? I’d suggest that, because of her background and current studies, her opinion has been more thoroughly researched than his.

  • gwhh

    At least I feel better. She was looking ROUGH for a 23 year old law student!! Glad to find out she a 30 year old feminazi!

  • bg

    ++

    jackva #351 March 2, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    perhaps all conservatives, but not all Republicans..

    that said, anyone still shooting from the Dem v Rep position, well, please
    try using your search engine more often, you might get lucky and grow a
    grey cell or two.. then maybe you can discuss the “issues” v baby stuff..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    Terry Davis #352 March 2, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    re: [Rush Limbaugh is just an entertainer.]

    She’s having so much sex she can’t afford the contraception.
    She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have
    sex.

    Thirty years old, a student at Georgetown Law who
    admits to having so much sex she can’t afford it.”

    oh the irony is just too funny!!

    ==

  • noway

    And just because one supports women’s rights to contraception, in vitro, medical abortion under certain circumstances (especially if we aren’t controlling erectile dysfunction pills) doesn’t make him or her a “leftist” or “democrat” or “liberal”. Or whichever word you choose. Just reasonable.

    when she wants me to pay her bill HECK YES IS IS UNREASONABLE. SHE NEEDS TO GROW UP AND GET A PART TIME JOB TO PAY HER BILLS. i paid my way through college and graduate school. when i went to dc invited it was due to my accomplishments and not whining. you be reasonable. she is an insult to all women who worked for equal pay.

  • Dano1001

    I didnt think lesbians needed birth control

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  • wheat farmer

    I will buy here pills she can buy the1000 gallons of diesel fuel we use every day.Then she would really know what its liked to be screwed.She will make a good dem politician. The dear leader is cutting medical benefits for the military,have 2 sons serving, but this scank wants everything free go to hell lady go try this in Afghanistan.

  • Mitch

    Dano1001

    Her testimony included cases of women who use birth control hormones to prevent or treat ovarian cysts, among other things. Contraceptives are not used solely for contraception.

  • Bad Actor

    So, just because the Catholic employers (in the two ‘stories’ Ms. Fluke offered in her video) won’t pay for birth control pills because it is against the tenets of their faith, these women’s lives are in danger??? Huh? How about they go to their doc, get a prescription for the bc pills, take the rx to a pharamcist, and (GASP!) pay for the friggin’ pills out of their pockets?????? As many have said, it costs about $5 a month at Walmart for bc pills. Big Woop.

    This was definitely a smoke-screen designed to make Obama look like the good guy and the Catholics like bad guys. And that witch Pelosi calls herself a Catholic. The Pope ought to excommunicate her ass.

  • nana

    I agree with RUSH Limbaugh with this one. This woman lost her moral, again she is a progressive, what can I say.

  • Mitch

    I do not understand the distinction. Why is a woman using a paycheck from a Catholic employer to purchase contraceptives any more or less offensive than a woman using a healthcare plan supplemented by a Catholic employer to purchase contraceptives?

    Surely a distinction should be drawn between whether corporations can be required to provide health coverage as part of compensation, and whether corporations may condition employment on adherence to a religious tenet.

  • Mr. Raven

    This is female single issue monomaniac tool and the oxycontin addled Rush Limbaugh deserve each other. What a world! What a country, what a bunch of dolts, left and right!

  • reddog333

    I will check out the website. Having been an egg donor, there is a purpose for justice in reproductive law to be had in the future, since sperm donors are required by the clinics to sign a form stating that they agree for the child to be contacted at 18 to be asked if they would like to know the donor’s identity it should be this way for egg donors it was not anonymous but the clinic closed after the doctors divorced and my medical records there are gone. This is someone who wants to help, alot of times I wish there was conscription here so I would not have been harassed by pimps so much and gotten speeding tickets that kept me out of the military.

  • Spike

    aka…Slut!

  • SanFranciscoConservative

    this pig is not getting F’d that much – oDumbo transparency- quite clear

  • VanZorge

    sandra is a typical female activist whiner.

    sandy – buy your own condoms and BC pills – and if you can’t afford them, tell your boyfriend to either bring his own condoms or to “pull out”………………….. you jerk

  • cosmo98

    Here is how to solve the situation: Put this woman’s face on every single *free* condom that is given out on college campuses. Men will lose the urge to have sex ever again.

  • Ken

    Fluke was a plant who the Dems were just waiting to bring her before the cameras. She was one whore testifying in front of the Big Whore, Nancy Pelosi. They touted her as a 23yr old law student, when in fact she was 30yrs old, and an activist who only went to Georgetown to further her cause of having contraception added to the student health plan. These Dems will do anything to look as if they are being mistreated by Republicans. God bless you Mr. Limbaugh for calling Fluke what she really is.

  • John

    LOL at all of the Dittohead morons on this site…. jesus fvcking christ. Right wing religious nuts are destroying this country. If you are over 20 years old and still take the Buy-Bull seriously, you’re a fvcking moron.

  • Andy K

    Sandra Fluke: Please buy your own birth control crap you slut. This is why this country is on decline. Useless piece of human solid waste like you that want someone else to pay for your useless choices. I will like to see a video of you having sex to see if you are worth a penny.
    Your parents must be really proud to have breed a whore.

  • Catrina G.

    The big lie here, is that women are being “denied access” to birth control… nobody is being “denied access”… they are just being asked to pay for what they use. WHAT!!! You want me to PAY for something that I WANT!!!??? How Unreasonable. pfffft. I fully believe in a womans right to choose… I also believe in a womans right to pay for what she chooses. JMO.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Interesting name there, John.

    Biblically speaking.

    Another named John wrote this:

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+4&version=KJV

    Think on it.

    Paul’s letter to the new church in Rome (Romans, the book’s called sometimes…) says this:

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%201&version=KJV

    “..professing to be wise, they became fools….”

    It’s about you, John, and those like you, proud in your unbelief, and in your self-centered worldview.

    You’ll see, even if you won’t see right now. You will see.

  • Adi

    #369

    Funnily enough there are no “man activists” out there to defend their “reproductive rights”.

    Shouldn’t be men also be entitled to “man activism” and “men rights”? or would that be too misanthropic for the average lefie’s taste, who claims (an-oh-so-convenient) equality.

    Yep: We. Want. Man. Issues. Pills. Programs. Sponsored. By. Taxpayer.

    Are you all *that* male-insensitive? If women can/must have it, why their better halves cannot?

  • jack

    You guys sure are morons, aren’t you? She may be 30 years old but she is also a third year law student. So yes, she can speak for students.

    What does it matter that she is also an activist? You think there are no Young Republicans on campus ready to drink the Repub kool-aid?

    Another issue that you guys lost. She could have easily been allowed to testify before the Republicans and that would be that. But no…you guys – with the hot air balloon Limbaugh leading the charge – had to besmirch her reputation.

    What world do you guys live in? One would think this is the 1950s with women quietly acquiescent to their male betters…Sheesh!

  • bg

    ++

    jack #376 March 3, 2012 at 1:04 am

    “FREEDOM OF RELIGION”

    via “US CONSTITUTION”

    she could always go to a non-Christian college..

    oh btw she’s also on Public Interest Scholarship..

    ==

  • DANEgerus

    Slut? SLUT?!? There are entire whorehouses that don’t use $3000 in birth control in a year.

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  • tehrdbl

    Who the heck would have sex with this woman anyway?

  • tehrdbl

    Hey Jack, why can’t this woman take care of herself? BTW she already besirched her own reputation – such as it was.

  • tehrdbl

    Sandra Fluke. Rhymes with___________.

  • Cashcleaner

    Well then, this is all the excuse we need to call her a whore and slut.

    PS: I’m sure Jesus is very proud right now.

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  • bg

    ++

    “If the upper class is able to give it’s children, grandchildren more and more
    genetic advantages, they will move away form the people who are naturally
    born..”
    ~ Lee Silver

    Our Totalitarian Eugenicist-in-Chief

    bit more here..

    ==

  • bg
  • bg

    ++

    Cashcleaner #382 March 3, 2012 at 2:07 am

    send Jesus the bill..

    oh btw, i believe in God, He once spoke to
    me, so bug off with the Jesus “quilt” crap..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    Cashcleaner #382 March 3, 2012 at 2:07 am

    oh btw..

    THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY

    ==

  • David Wallace

    I have read some of the nasty and hateful things said in these posts. I am disgusted by some of your vile responses. Your country and mine (GB) have soldiers fighting and dying for the ability for free speech for all and equal rights for women. What difference does it make if she is a lesbian? What’s wrong with free contraception for all. It’s been this way in Great Britain since there conception (no pun intended) Get over your pathetic red neck ideals and move into the 21st century. If women want or need contraception who are any of you to say no!

  • MJ McNulty

    @Jack, comment #376–“You guys sure are morons, aren’t you? She may be 30 years old but she is also a third year law student. So yes, she can speak for students.

    What does it matter that she is also an activist? You think there are no Young Republicans on campus ready to drink the Repub kool-aid?”

    The point is that, contrary to what the Democrats and the MSM were initially reporting, Sandra Fluke was NOT the mere victim of Georgetown University’s “unfair” policy in excluding coverage for artificial birth control as they, and Sandra Fluke herself, alleged when she testified before Congress. She, as the above article linked to pointed out, has a history of being a woman’s rights activist, had prior experience working in New York state government offices, and–as reported by the Washington Post prior to Nancy Pelosi’s hearing–researched and knew full well what Georgetown’s policies were with regards to covering birth control in their health plans and enrolled anyway with the full intent of trying to get them to change their policy. Not to mention, the day before Obama came up with the so-called compromise on the HHS Mandate, she was one of the speakers for “Catholic Students for Women’s Health” at the National Press Club that was headed by former Maryland Lt. Governor Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, which was broadcast by C-SPAN.

    “Another issue that you guys lost. She could have easily been allowed to testify before the Republicans and that would be that. But no…you guys – with the hot air balloon Limbaugh leading the charge – had to besmirch her reputation.”

    Actually, she was not the Democrats original witness. Under the rules the Democrats themselves passed when they were in power, the minority party is allowed to request one witness to offer a counter-point during a hearing. They originally invited Barry Lynn of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, since the topic of the hearing was , “Lines Crossed: Separation of Church and State. Has the Obama Administration Trampled on Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Conscience?” But then changed their mind at the last minute after realizing there was no women on the panel and requested Sandra Fluke even though her story wasn’t what the hearing was discussing. Also, during the second day of the hearing, TWO WOMEN testified on the same topic, Dr. Allison Dabbs Garrett, the senior vice president for academic affairs at Oklahoma Christian University, and Dr. Laura Champion, the medical director at Calvin College Health Services, which you can easily find on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uj1l8suFE68

  • bg

    ++

    David Wallace #388 March 3, 2012 at 2:41 am

    wow, talk about hypocrisy, you’re dyn’O’mite!!

    btw, that was not a compliment, but the following most assuredly is:

    It Has Always Been The Soldier

    It is the soldier,
    not the President who gives US Democracy.

    It is the soldier,
    not the Congress who takes Care of US.

    It is the soldier,
    not the Reporter who has given us Freedom of Press.

    It is the soldier,
    not the Poet who has given us Freedom of Speech.

    It is the soldier,
    not the campus [community] Organizer who
    has given us the Freedom to Demonstrate.

    It is the soldier,
    who salutes the flag;
    who serves beneath the flag,
    and whose coffin is draped by the flag,
    that allows the protester to burn the flag.

    ~ Father Dennis O’Brien, US Marine Corp. Chaplain

    God Bless America!

    God Bless Soldiers everywhere for putting THEIR
    lives on the line to protect us ALL from terrorism!

    ==

  • Jan England

    Without going into everything – I have just one basic question: who is forcing these women (who supposedly feel so deprived of contraception) to attend a Catholic University? Who forces anyone to work at a Catholic Church or Catholic charitable organization? If this is such a huge issue to folks, go educate yourselves somewhere else, or go work somewhere else for goodness sakes!

  • Lara

    Wow. To most of these commenters…It must be nice, and gentle, living without a brain or uterus.

  • Mienna

    @Paul- you seem to STILL be missing the point. I’ll skip the rhetoric and don’t bother to reply because I really don’t care enough about you to check if you respond.

    WE DON’T CARE WHAT PEOPLE DO IN THEIR BEDROOMS….WE DON’T WANT TO PAY FOR IT!!!
    Is that simple enough for you?

  • Militant Conservative

    #392 March 3, 2012 at 4:21 am
    Lara commented:

    Your body is yours to do with as you please. From a conservative.

    You are asking the democrat party to control part of it now.

    Not too bright are we? Liberty is lost by lil bits not all at once.

    Congratulations, women are a little less free due to the democrat party.

    (the constant liberty thieves they are).

    Fluke is an activist whore. (I would’nt take her home to mom)

    powder is dry

  • Militant Conservative

    #388 March 3, 2012 at 2:41 am
    David Wallace commented:

    OOOOh I love this comment.

    In 230 years America has become the envy of the world.

    You want us to emulate failed policies from another country?!

    Yhea your another idiot.

    She could have gone to term and then killed the fetus at no charge.

    All while enjoying a front row parking space.

    You guys are such hypocrits.

    Fluke is a socialist legs up for all aboard come get some wench.

    Virtue is not in her neither is good policy making.

    Don’t care about her proclivities, why would a lesbo need controception????

    The left has jumped the shark.

    Powder is dry

  • June

    So, she’s an “activist” – -is her name really Fluke, or “flake”?

  • One thing I must ask is why Ms Fluke would demand that we pay for her irresponsible behaviours when all she has to do is pass up just one Value Meal or one pizza each month to pay for the things she demands we pay for. Although Rush did use strong verbiage to describe her, I am afraid Rush is right about what he had to say about her.
    But I didn’t need Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, or even Rachel Maddow to tell me that – I already figured it out from the tone of her comments, trying to lie about how it WASN’T a “gender” issue. It really IS NOT a “gender” issue or even a sex issue – meaning male/female or sexual activity – it is a PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY issue – and her demands mean we have to pay MORE for insurance and potentially MORE for taxes as well as MORE for doing business. Maybe Ms Fluke should consider relocating to another country more amenable to her beliefs. Cuba, Red China, Viet Nam, and Venezuela all appear more suitable to her idiotology.

    PS and if you folks wish to flame me with your irrational partisan hatred simply because you disagree with me, I don’t give a damn. The truth is no less true simply because it doesn’t jibe with my beliefs…and for the record they don’t always jibe with my beliefs either.

  • wanumba

    #376 March 3, 2012 at 1:04 am
    jack commented:

    You guys sure are morons, aren’t you? She may be 30 years old but she is also a third year law student. So yes, she can speak for students.
    :::::::::::::::::::

    Well she sure the HELL isn’t talking for MY female students, who are OFFENDED by that arrogant pushy LEft conceit premise that Susan Fluke with a $240,000 undergraduate Cornell Genger degree and a $55,000 a year Law School student gig is 1) representative of the average college student 2) has NEVER actually asked other women if she could PRESUME speak for them

    ANd as for all her “committee caring work” we’re in Africa with slave and human trafficking RIFE and nothing she’s done in her 7 years and counting talky-talky sheltered university life has done ANYTHING to change this situation, and NEVER will.

    WHat she’s done is plump her resume with hoity-toity ‘concern’ facades. Lefty cocktail party chatter, “Oh yes, well I started the committee on slavery issues awareness on campus.”
    “OOMG. You are so noble and I sooo respect you.”
    Bah!

  • wanumba

    #345 March 2, 2012 at 9:47 pm
    Former Registered Republican commented:

    It just amazing how the same very people who go on a rage when a teenage girl wants an abortion then magically disappear when she gives birth to the unwanted child and raises another alcoholic or drug addict. Then the same very caring people will deny her money to go to college because it would be public assistance and she should be working instead of relying on the handouts. But they will instead fund jails and police departments to keep themselves safe!

    Get your story straight, right wingers: you either adopt all those unwanted babies
    ::::::::::::::::::::

    Get your story straight. Conservatives adopt more kids than anyone. You’re just parroting Left propaganda o lying selfish Lefties feel superior in their TOTAL lack of caring about kids, natural or adopted. UNtil they decide a white family can’t adopt the black kid they’ve taken care of for five years, then no nooooooooooooo. Suddenly Libs get all “concerned” about adoption … ie to make it HARDER.

  • NAME

    Perhaps Fluke would rather have been aborted instead of (as a LIBERAL BLOOD-SUCKER) having to constantly whine…POOR ME. She expects the government (WHICH IS ACTUALLY WORKING PEOPLE) to champion her hedonistic behavior. SHE DEMANDS FROM THE PAY CHECKS OF THE WORKER, WHO IS TRYING TO PUT GAS IN THE TANK, an endless supply of CONDOMS…is she kidding me? HEY FLUKE, take a hike to the local Planned Parenthood. Let THOSE Liberal Bloodsuckers pay for a whore’s activities. MY HARD EARNED PAY CHECK/TAX CONFESCATION does NOT need to go to whores.

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  • With that face, SHE has to pay Dudes to F-her! That’s why she wants US to payfor all her “sex” equipment and birth control! Where does this “honey” come from? Who put her up to this? Are her parent, who must be so very “proud” of their littl ho-er, active left wing radicals or commies? Why did the marxist-moist thug who never stays in the White House, doing any WORK, call the slut? Something STINKS in demcRAT circles surrounding this story!

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  • anti-bho

    didn’t take this miasmic, selfrighteous bunch long to turn the thread into a swarm of flies looking for a ‘lord’ did it?

  • Robin

    Since when does chick-on-chick sex require contraception?

  • Simsalabim

    What hypocrisy! The left wants the government out of their wombs and bedrooms until it comes to paying for their abortions and birth control.

  • limeyjim

    Anyone curious as to why the Republicans are struggling to find a candidate capable of challenging an incumbent president need only read the comments on this blog. It’s as if Beavis and Butthead joined the Klan. How any politician could appeal to the weirdos and wackos posting on here and win a general election is beyond me.

  • JPL17

    @ #371 “John”

    “If you are over 20 years old and still take the Buy-Bull seriously, you’re a fvcking moron.”

    Well, at last, some honesty from a Leftist! THANK you, John! And thank YOU you, Obama! For finally bringing us this moment when it’s all clear: This controversy has NOTHING to do with birth control. It’s ALL about the Left’s urgent need to express its pent-up, raging hatred and bigotry against people of faith.

    Tired of bottling it all up for the past 60 years, the Left has finally taken the mask OFF, and what do we see?

    The ugly, contorted face of a brutal, arrogant, bullying hater.

    So, I hope you Leftists enjoy the feeling of relief you must be experiencing from FINALLY letting it all out. Because it won’t last long: The targets of your bigotry will be delivering you a CRUSHING defeat in November.

  • Militant Conservative

    #408 March 3, 2012 at 8:12 am
    JPL17 commented:

    Finally someone that gets what is ready to happen.

    America is not like the left, America hates the left.

    The left is just a spoiled brat wanting everything

    For free.

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  • JPL17

    @ #407 “limeyjim”

    “[R]ead the comments on this blog. It’s as if Beavis and Butthead joined the Klan.”

    Couldn’t agree with you more, limeyjim! Unfortunately, that’s what happens when hordes of radical Leftists come here from DailyKos and MoveOn, adopt aliases, and pretend to post as conservatives.

    FYI, NONE of the regulars here EVER comment like Klan members. Radical Leftists, though, do it all the time; it’s probably one of their most important tools.

  • Nails

    Why doesn’t this slut make her many partners bring the condom? Would you want to be the guy to go where every man’s gone before? I think she qualifies for being neutered, that would be a cost savings and that would solve her protection problems. Thirty or forty years or more ago this woman would have been a disgrace to all in the country, but to Democrats and liberals she’s the poster child for immortal behaviour which Democrats embrace. The scarlet letter A should be tattoo on her ass. With that much open busness down under a man would have to stap a board to his butt to keep from falling in. Was Bill Clinton at the hearings, figured he’d want a peice of the action. How does she have time for studies with that sex taking up so much of her time. Hope she is getting paid well to be a schill for Pelosi and Obama.

  • wanumba

    #407 March 3, 2012 at 8:09 am
    limeyjim commented:

    Anyone curious as to why the Republicans are struggling to find a candidate capable of challenging an incumbent president need only read the comments on this blog. It’s as if Beavis and Butthead joined the Klan
    :::::::::::::::::

    Dear CHild, you at the wrong website. You describe Democrat Daily KOS. The Democrats protected slavery and formed and sheltered the KKK and the KKK remains Democrat voters.

    You realize that the KKK is equivalent of the Janjaweed of Darfur. All the Democrats ran away and no one who votes Democrats goes there anymore … and everyone else with a real heart and compassion is left behind trying to deliver relief aid in atrocious and dangerous conditions. Democrats did NOTHING for Darfur after ALL their wailing. NOTHING. All the A-List Hollywood achieved NOTHING in Darfur, but they went back to their multimilliona dollar homes and gave themselves humanitarian awards.

    I am pretty pissed that Missy Susie Fluke pompously passed herself off as “doing” something about “slavery and child trafficking” and she’s never stepped foot here in Africa and nothing she’s “done” has done anything to help actual slaves. Just campus committee yadda yadda. UN estimates about 70,000 children in semi-slave servitude as street beggers in this country alone. We have a neighboring country here that has a national population that’s literally 1/2 slaves in all the classic definitions of the term.

    How swell and sheltered you and Miss Susy have the luxury of sitting around on deluxe college campuses just talking about this and flatter yourselves that you’ve actually done anything.

    YOu think this discussion is offensive to your sensibilities? Miss Susy FLuke if she showed up in Africa with her outlier sexual and “reproductive needs” would be run out of any country she was in for being a vile, trampy, baby-hating freak. The WOMEN would run her out.

    So, this is TAME.

  • Brown

    Sandra Fluke will not be able to get a job because there are too many lawyers. Therefore she is acting like a whore to get noticed. This Obama care issue is not about conception, its about first amendment rights. Sandra get real.

  • Mitch Rapp

    I hope her last name sounds like PUCK – It would be so appropriate. With her activities, she is lucky to find time to study law

  • So Sleep Number can kiss my a**. I need 3 mattresses for my home and they won’t be getting my business after showing how shallow and gullible they are.

    Any company that drops Rush will see no business from me or my family members.

    A 30 yr old activist…. will Obama’s lies EVER stop???

  • KAS

    Regardless, of your view-Republican, Dem, Green, or Independant, these post are horrific. Really gentleman? (If I could even call you that) Would you want your daughter, wife, mother, or sister to be discussed this way? And we wonder why we have such a problem with domestic abuse in this country? Where is YOUR decency? YOUR character? YOUR integrity? YOUR dignity? Come on! Democracy only works when we have respect for the equal on the other side of the argument. For every finger you point, there are three back at you. You aren’t going to win over supporters by continuing with these vitriol character attacks. It’s toxic! Enough already! This morning the US Dept of Labor states that the average debt per person in this country was $45,000.00 per person-China owns 48% of that debt. We have bigger things to be worrying about. Stop watching Fox and read.

  • Heather

    What a crock! This lying skank gets to spew her tripe to the world and it turns out she’s a fake. Hey twit, if you can afford law school you can afford contraception. If you cannot afford the contraception, perhaps you should stop taking the salami in your cooch! You have two other places to take it, two hands and two boobs. There’s more than one way to do the bone dance and not get preggers.

    Leave it to a democratic wonk to lie about this subject. I would not be surprised to find out she is on Barry’s payroll. Unlike Bubba Clinton, Barry doesn’t bang ’em, he just pays them to do his bidding. Makes me sick. Democraps = liars.

  • wanumba

    #417 March 3, 2012 at 9:12 am
    KAS commented:

    Regardless, of your view-Republican, Dem, Green, or Independant, these post are horrific. Really gentleman? (If I could even call you that) Would you want your daughter, wife, mother, or sister to be discussed this way? And we wonder why we have such a problem with domestic abuse in this country? Where is YOUR decency? YOUR character? YOUR integrity? YOUR dignity?
    :::::::::::::::::

    Horrific? WHat a wimp!!!
    My daughters have been taught that sex before marriage is UNhealthy for them, dangerously exposes them to a horrific swath of AWFUL diseases, that sex without a life commitment of marriage is a DEAD END and SELF DEGRADING.

    They have been taught that coveting other people’s money is a sin, and a form of thieving. They have been taught to pay their own bills, never expect someone else to pay.
    They have been taught that children are blessings, not burdens and that they as WOMEN need to be prepared in mind and body to take on the profound responsibility of the next generation. They must be prepared to be physically strong, mentally strong and educated, for they will be nurturers, protectors, and teachers to the next generation.

    Miss Fluke shoving in, aggressively claiming in a gutter power play to speak for them – words they would NEVER speak – is everything they aren’t and is in fact their enemy, directly their enemy working against them, and directly the enemy of the family they hope to build after college.

    I hope this goes on and on so that we have every opportunity to spread the truth FAR and WIDE about the Democrats dishonest FAKE HEARING theatre, starring Miss Susy.

    You want to see the disaster of modern Liberal Left college life thanks to this contraceptive circus? My daughters observe dead drunk women sprawled on the grass after Saturday night drinking, they are witness to completely ruined 21 year olds in underpants with no idea what the HELL they did the night before, but no matter, the campus provides contraceptives.

    Fluke deserves NO RESPECT. She LIED. SHe’s a political activist with a hard-core, demeaning LEft agenda. You are with her, defending her lies.

    WE THE PEOPLE DESERVE AN APOLOGY FROM HER AND FROM THE DEMOCRAT PARTY, STARTING WITH HANDLER NANCY PELOSI.

  • Zeke

    Objection. Hearsay. “She was described as …”? “In one of her first interviews she was quoted …”? Shouldn’t be too terribly difficult to produce substantiation of these claims, and yet here’s an entire string of venom borne from rumor and hearsay. The burden of proof is still on the accuser in this country, no?

  • Djb

    But how did the Democrats get Rush to mischaracterize her testimony and call her a slut? I see their master plan – they found an intelligent, cue young woman with a demonstrable comitment to women’s issues. They had her testify about a friend’s battle with ovarian cysts. And then some how – this is the part where you lose me – they made Rush call her a whore and demand pornographic videos of her.

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  • SanFranciscoConservative

    something smells fishy

  • 417 KAS
    The use of shame is a long held and vital tool in the civil society, shame keeps a person from engaging in behavior that is harmful to themselves and others around them, shame helps to maintain order by discouraging such activities that are potently disruptive to society as a whole.
    In the case of sexuality when shame is removed from the toolbox of a civil society, we have an increase in STDs broken marriages, unwanted children (many of whom are shamelessly killed in the womb)
    And don’t think the left doesn’t use shame. Why are you here? to shame us, why are so many of the attacks against us here based on some misunderstanding/assumptions of our faith. Why is it that the leftist who have come here to comment call us racist (KKK) on an issue that has nothing to do with race. Why are the democrats bemoaning the fact that no women were allowed (a lie) to testify at the republican hearing (the real one)? To shame us, that’s why. You were sent here by your favorite leftie blog to shame us. I’m not going to claim that the worst of the insults towards mss fluke were left by leftist who only came to make us look bad, (420+ comments on a blog that sees comment in the 60s for most threads) but if you want to shame us into not using shame, it’s best not to pretend you don’t.

  • #424 I used a double negative, I’m so ashamed.

  • Wife, mother, teacher

    To Jeffrey, Comment #56:
    Thank you for listing the companies that Rush represents. I will definitely shop with them FIRST!

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  • Tru Patriot

    What is up with these women insisting on access to birth control? Are they just too hormonal to control themselves? Limbaugh was right! We have to get back to the laws created by the founding fathers. THAT constitution wisely excluded women from voting. The bill of rights has just screwed it up! We’ve got to restore some sense to this country! Who’s with me? I bet good hearted Republican women will be glad to give up their right to vote knowing that the majority of women are probably misguided bleading heart liberals like this Fluke lady.

  • Adi

    #392

    Talking from your own, personal, experience?

  • Samdy

    If they want taxpayers to pay for their birth control while they party, I would rather pay for a one time sterilization instead of having to continuously pay for anyones contraceptives. Let Mommy and Daddy pay for them!

  • doc

    I guess this makes her an ASTROSLUT then.

  • regularguy

    This hag is no women’s rights activist, she’s a con artist.

  • NC Mountain Girl

    Coffee was more important to me than sex when I was in law school. And I think it is a pretty safe bet that Fluke probably pays more in a week for her caffeine fix at the vry upscale Georgetown university coffee shops than she pays for contraception. Will her next cause be to transfer to BYU and lobby Congress to force the Mormon Trustees to pay for her caffeine fix?

  • Liberty60

    Speaking of sluts has anyone heard from Bristol Palin on this issue?

  • Sandra Fluke

    “This is my vagina. I put things in it that can make me pregnant. You taxpayers have a duty to pay for things that stop me from being pregnant.”

  • wanumba

    #434 March 3, 2012 at 11:04 am
    Liberty60 commented:

    GATEWAY PUNDIT MODERATOR aisle CLEANUP

  • OBAMASLIE

    Highlander #6 – No.

  • donh

    435 posts….America’s fall right here. Slut marches. Of all that has been done to this country the last 5 years THIS is what provokes mass public outrage . The Whore of Babalon owns your depraved soul.

  • Adi

    #434

    No, but I’m sure Sasha and Malia Obama will chip in the debate quite soon.

  • wanumba

    #420 March 3, 2012 at 9:43 am
    Zeke commented:

    Objection. Hearsay.

    Shouldn’t be too terribly difficult to produce substantiation of these claims, and yet here’s an entire string of venom borne from rumor and hearsay. The burden of proof is still on the accuser in this country, no?
    ::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Everything Fluke said was heresay.

    “Shouldn’t be too difficult to produce substabtiation of these claims. The burden of proof is still on the accuser in this country, no?”

    Like, the NAME of her “lesbian friend?” And her data sources for her antecdotes. SHe’s in LAW SCHOOL, she cannot claim she isn’t aware everything she said is heresay inadmissable in a real court.

    SHe’s trying to influence law-making and massive tax increases that will be counted in BILLIONS of dollars. We the People have a right to know the reliability of her data and OBJECT until she can cough up something more credible than her say-so.

  • donh

    Time for an encore performance of Madonna’s Whore of Babalon half time ritual. …The illuminati cult poured out its deadly spirit of lust upon you and Satan reaps ….> http://youtu.be/ROkhklj0ZGs

  • .

    “demonize Rush”
    he does a perfectly competent job of that by himself.

  • JPL17

    @ #417 “KOS” (oops, I mean “KAS”)

    “Would you want your daughter, wife, mother, or sister to be discussed this way?”

    No way, KAS! I TOTALLY agree with you that the way the Lefties here talk about religious and conservative women is just AWFUL! I mean, my wife and my mother are both Catholic AND Republican, and I’d HATE to see them be the object of the crude Lefty insults hurled at religious conservatives here, such as:

    #10 March 2, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    Nunya: “morons”

    #16 March 2, 2012 at 1:45 pm
    Joey: “impos[ing] their anti-contraception views on the general public”

    #68 March 2, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    Paul: “bunch of right wing activists”

    #79 March 2, 2012 at 3:02 pm
    Paul: “intolerant…idiots like yourself”

    #88 March 2, 2012 at 3:13 pm
    Paul: “you are NOT interested in the truth”

    #100 March 2, 2012 at 3:21 pm
    Paul: “the truth just isn’t what you are interested [in]”

    #123 March 2, 2012 at 3:37 pm
    righty: “You people are a lot crazier than I could have ever imagined”

    #134 March 2, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    jo: “you are a bunch of [Rush’s] knuckle dragging followers”

    #161 March 2, 2012 at 4:24 pm
    Paul: “bigots like you”

    #166 March 2, 2012 at 4:27 pm
    Paul: “[the] only…freedom [you] right wingers [like is] to deny others what they need/want”

    #185 March 2, 2012 at 4:44 pm
    Paul: “think about all the time you masturbate…I hope your health insurance covers mental conditions too … cause you know … there is help out there for you”

    #218 March 2, 2012 at 5:13 pm
    Paul: “It truly is very simple. But because it is so simple, you can’t handle it”

    #221 March 2, 2012 at 5:17 pm
    Paul: “so one sided and so intolerant”

    #228 March 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm
    Jen: “you are such pigs”

    #239 March 2, 2012 at 5:39 pm
    Jen: “Republicans need church to act even remotely moral and otherwise they’re like a pack of wild hyenas”

    #282 March 2, 2012 at 6:22 pm
    Brent Hickel: “all of you with your poisoned brains”

    #307 March 2, 2012 at 6:55 pm
    Antimedia: “profoundly stupid people”

    #308 March 2, 2012 at 6:56 pm
    Marie: “you crazy right wingers”

    #345 March 2, 2012 at 9:47 pm
    Former Registered Republican: “right wingers…[y]ou are the murderers…”

    #371 March 3, 2012 at 12:11 am
    John: “Dittohead morons…. jesus fvcking christ. Right wing religious nuts are destroying this country. If you are over 20 years old and still take the Buy-Bull seriously, you’re a fvcking moron.”

    #376 March 3, 2012 at 1:04 am
    jack: “You guys sure are morons, aren’t you?”

    #388 March 3, 2012 at 2:41 am
    David Wallace: “Get over your pathetic red neck ideals and move into the 21st century”

    #392 March 3, 2012 at 4:21 am
    Lara: “It must be nice, and gentle, living without a brain…”

    #404 March 3, 2012 at 7:53 am
    anti-bho: “miasmic, selfrighteous bunch”

    #407 March 3, 2012 at 8:09 am
    limeyjim: “the comments on this blog [are] as if Beavis and Butthead joined the Klan…. weirdos and wackos posting on here”

    #417 March 3, 2012 at 9:12 am
    KAS: “Stop watching Fox and read”

    #434 March 3, 2012 at 11:04 am
    Liberty60: “Speaking of sluts has anyone heard from Bristol Palin on this issue?”

    And to think that all this blind HATRED has spewed out ONLY because people of faith don’t want to be forced to pay for someone ELSE’S birth control or morning-after pills — which is a protection we’ve had under federal statute for the past 19 years!!! Gee, if I didn’t know better, I’d think that the personal insult is the ONLY rhetorical tool that Leftists have!

    But I KNOW that that’s not true. Because the Left’s OTHER rhetorical tool is LYING!

    So, have a nice day back at DailyKos, Comrade KAS!

  • .

    “End of story.”
    more than half a page of comments below your comment prove not.
    but if you want to believe what you believe…

  • .
  • Where is the link to her original statement saying she enrolled in Georgetown to fight their health care policy?!!!! Come on, if we’re to trust this claim where is the proof?!!!

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  • Gem

    Here is the entire interview from the Ezra Klein article:

    “Fluke came to Georgetown University interested in contraceptive coverage: She researched the Jesuit college’s health plans for students before enrolling, and found that birth control was not included. “I decided I was absolutely not willing to compromise the quality of my education in exchange for my health care,” says Fluke, who has spent the past three years lobbying the administration to change its policy on the issue. The issue got the university president’s office last spring, where Georgetown declined to change its policy.”

    If you have any reading comprehension you can see that she attended Georgetown because of its academic prowess DESPITE its contraception policy. She was NOT looking to agitate, but merely seeking the best education education. Of course, anyone with critical capacity would recognize just from the premise of this article that no person would pick a law school for the sole reason of advocating a policy regarding contraceptions. Those gullible individuals who bought this story without checking the source material should really reexamine the extent to which they scrutinize news that agree with their current views.

  • .

    wanumba (aka “wahhhh!”) says: “KKK remains Democrat voters”

    ha. the only mystery is why you bother to repeat known b*llsh*t as if anyone will believe it.
    even you don’t.
    and KKK members certainly don’t. they’re not going to be members of a party that conservatives claim ‘exists only because it is full of blacks’.
    or didn’t you get that memo?
    🙂

    why do teapugs hate all biological species?
    why does ‘wanumba’ go on the internet after big meth hits?

  • .

    “One thing I must ask is why Ms Fluke would demand that we pay for her irresponsible behaviours when all she has to do is pass up just one Value Meal or one pizza each month”

    why is she paying for your “value meal” (whatever that is. you probably can’t buy it at serta sleeper, sure sleeper, whatever 🙂 ) or your pizza? if you want more than one pizza or “value meal” a month, do other georgetown students pay for those?

  • What was the deal, the left wing press is just now having to show who and what this slut is? We knew about her days ago, and I was already commenting on her being a Democrat plant. This is exactly like the Black woman who stood up that time when Obama was speaking and was whinning to Obama that she needed a “new kitchen, and a new car”, remember her? and she turned out to be a long time civil rights activist who Obama knew and she was planted in the crowd to sound like she was this unfortunate Black, like they all are aren’t they, bull, and Obama tells her to get with his people and they would figure out how to help her. That was all a big plant to show how caring (sic) Obama was that he would help this one Black woman out of the whole crowd. Well, as it turned out this Black woman was given a whole house that some Democrat had that wasn’t being used by him, and he just gave it to her.

    Now, that’s not this of course but it’s just the same thing that the Democrats do when they want to fake out the American people. The Democrats have been faking out the American people for decades with one fake person after another. They do this so often and have that mindset that they actually believed that “Joe The Plumber” was a Republican plant to make Obama look bad. But you know what, we don’t have to hire plants and pay Occupier’s to destroy private property in order to show the American people how mad our nations youth are, because We can come up with millions of young people who have real problems from all the pain Obama and the Socialist Democrats have caused most American’s. We don’t need to come up with plants because there’s nothing like the truth and true people to make most all American’s who have been hurt by Obama, who have plenty to say.

    This slut is not only a slut, but she’s a lieing bitch to, to have such a mental illness that she would think that it was okay for Democrats to put her before a government committee to lie to them to try to prove a point Obama is trying to make before the American people that rich insurance companies need to provide contraception for free, but who’s going to pay for it? We are. That’s who Obama is going to get to pay for everyone of these Alinsky style laws that will cause this nation to fall like a lead balloon.

    This woman doesn’t need contraception, she needs a labotomy so she can’t be used by the Democrats to lie to the American people ever again.

  • :-)

    It’s apalling how the entire discussion is waged by political activists, lawyers, the corrupt, power hungry clergy, people indoctrinated by ideology (Left, Right, doesn’t matter), but no doctors or nurses.

    The people involved in the discussion have no idea what they’re talking about. Time to get the gilloutines out.
    are you qualified to prescribe guillotines? If you believe in the freemarket world, everyone is a doctor or nurse if they claim they are one (or three! triple your income easily. phone our tollfree number for details. operators aren’t waiting!).

  • Gary

    Congratulations Jim Hoft, you’ve arrived.
    Now they’ve assigned a whole battalion of trolls.

    Bring it on, trolls!

  • :-)

    This woman doesn’t need contraception, she needs a labotomy[sic] so she can’t
    ★★ America ★★ thanks you for not insluting (oops, rushbonics slip. I meant “insulting”) any Republican Christian Conservative women.
    But why don’t you support the troops?

  • And CNS News reported Fluke Lives Less Than 3.2 Miles From Federally
    Funded Planned Parenthood Clinics. Just go there Fluke. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/testimony-georgetown-law-student-couldnt-afford-contraception-school-surrounded-planned

  • Jack Moss
  • moonbatterers battalion ready, sir!

    Bring it on, trolls!
    quaid… start the reactorrrr…

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  • wanumba

    #449 March 3, 2012 at 11:57 am
    . commented:

    why do teapugs hate all biological species?
    why does ‘wanumba’ go on the internet after big meth hits?
    ::::::::::::::::

    I’m in Africa, you racist. I’m having a wonderful time telling Africans how Obama wants birth control and abortion available. He’s losing fans fast here. You should see their AGHAST faces when I tell them it was Obama who personally blocked the law to help abortion-surviving infants, how he says he doen’t want his daughters to be burdened with a baby.

    You know what advice I got today .. yes today : “Americans all have to unite and VOTE OBAMA that baby-hater OUT OF OFFICE. You HAVE TO DO IT.”

    I wouldn’t be a member of the Democrat Party, ever ever. I have however taken up the ONE thing the Democrats TEACH:

    Since they are the party of slavery, Democrats should never be forgiven. NOTHING they say is valid on anything. Everything the Democrats do is tainted by the blood of dead slaves and destroyed lives under Democrats Jim Crow, Senator KKK Robert Byrd, and Segregation. Everything the Democrats say about the GOP is to cover their own blood guilt.

    SO, what’s your excuse for defending Democrats, fibbin’ Fluke, baby-hatin’ and racism?

  • rick rolling sanctorum

    FYI, NONE of the regulars here EVER comment like Klan members
    OK, but ‘the regulars’ never let us know, because they fail to label their kkk posts, “poe”.
    It’s like the old observation of teapundits (Lush, Palin, Bleck, etc.) They may not really be stupid, insane, and or naive but they always talk, walk, and play stupid, insane, and or naive, so it’s all the same in the end.

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    Ahy, yes, #449:

    Show us how right-thinking, and progressive you are, by viley insulting Wanumba.

    Project, much?

    Stay classy! 🙂 🙂 🙂

    (At least Wanumba posts uner her nic, unlike you.)

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    Isn’t that cute?

    Rick Rolling Santorum is mad at us mean ol; teapartiers for insulting Fluke. . .

    So he starts insulting Limbaugh, Beck, and, yes, Palin, again.

    Ahhh, these champions of all that is good and noble, and civility in discourse!

    /Sarc.

    I also love it how they always use an anti-gay slur to refer to the Tea Party. Not that there’s anything wrong with that!

    Stay classy, Libs!

    (You really have lost the high ground on this whole civil discourse thing.)

  • .

    “I’m in Africa, you racist”
    racist? My post contained no racist assertions.
    To whom did you think you were replying??
    Once get off the meth, you’ll also realize you aren’t really in Africa. 🙂

  • Patty

    The named alone, Fluke? It was no fluke that the Democrats, especially, Pelosi would trot out this liberal activists, then this:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57388641-503544/senate-strikes-down-blunt-amendment-on-contraception-rule/

    So, she goes out and asked the college students about the cost of their contraceptives. Just so happens it come out right after HHS mandates Catholics Hospitals they must insure their employees for contraceptives.

    It really doesn’t take an Einstein to figure out just how political the whole thing as become. And you cannot tell me that Obama and Seibilius had to know this would become a real topic that would upset religious groups.

    And prior to this Komen and Planned Parenthood thing. Suspicious? Better believe it. This Contraceptive issue is important for the Women Vote. Obama has had trouble with the women vote. It seem to have planned right into the administration plan. I would hope that someone like Breitbart could investigate this and it is a fact he would have been on this one.

    As for Fluke, $1,000 a year for sex. Forgive the pun but if you are having that much sex then how do you have time to study. Remember this: http://www.therightperspective.org/2010/06/24/mass-elementary-handing-out-condoms/

    Mass elementary handing out condoms. We paid for this, I suggest since they did this and did this in High Schools do this in Colleges.

    The cost would be http://www.walmart.com/ip/Lifestyles-Ultra-Sensitive-Condoms-40-ct/887631

    $11.46 for a box of 40 now that could be what sex 1 1/3 times a month if you have it one time a day. $138.00 12 boxes. Seriously, Fluke was a plant. And Rush is right.

  • Rick Rolling Santorum

    I’m not a “Lib”.
    You’re intermingling your posts. 🙂

  • .

    “And Rush is right.”
    and begging for pr0n on his radio broadcast.

  • Sandy

    Here we go again. Another Obama lie, another media feigned outrage at the nasty Republicans and another woman activist playing for the Woman’s vote. Anyone looking at Ms. Fluke could see she would have no way of spending thousands on Birth Control because she couldn’t get that many guys to take the bait.

    Perhaps the Republicans could punch first next time — ah but if wishes were horses than devils would ride.

  • Sandy

    Gee one would think the economy was in great shape and that the middle east wasn’t coming apart at the seems. Its all a game and the American people are the losers. How bout dem gas prices. Never mind, time to fool the public again.

  • wanumba

    #463 March 3, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    . commented:

    “I’m in Africa, you racist”
    racist? My post contained no racist assertions.
    To whom did you think you were replying??
    Once get off the meth, you’ll also realize you aren’t really in Africa
    ::::::::::::::::

    But I like it here.
    Africans LOVE children, call them BLESSINGS and WEALTH. No one tells us we have too many kids, unlike Democrats do all the time, NO ONE gratuitously sneers about ‘I don’t want to pay for your brats’, like Democrats say all the time. Africans say nice things all day long, unlike Democrats who think they own some sort of cosmic Get Out of Civility Card to insult people they don’t even know. Africans help each other, share all they have, while Democrats talk about how great they are but don’t give anything if it’s out of their own pockets, Africans can go two days without food and don’t complain, they work hard, no expectations that government is supposed to pay for anything, they put up with no water, electricity, long commutes to work, and praise God for all the good things they have, no matter how small.

    Who needs meth when one is surrounded by such good people? But the Democrats send condoms and birth control, to “help” Africans.

  • JPL17

    @ #460 “rick rolling sanctorum”

    “OK, but ‘the regulars’ never let us know, because they fail to label their kkk posts, ‘poe.'”

    Excellent, Comrade RRS, well done! You have just demonstrated my point, that the “personal insult” is NOT the Leftists’ only rhetorical tool! There is also LYING! Which you have done most enthusiastically here!!! Molodyetz Comrade!

    Of course you have NO PROOF WHATSOEVER that GP regulars post KKK comments here pseudonymously. Even worse, you completely FAILED to explain the AMAZING COINCIDENCE that KKK comments ONLY appear at Gateway Pundit when the site is experiencing a MASSIVE, ORGANIZED WAVE of visits by Leftist trolls sent here from LEFTWING blogs!!! Don’t you think it’s AMAZING that pseudonymous KKK comments ONLY appear during such LEFTWING invasions??? But once again, you have ignored the OBVIOUS explanation, Comrade RRS, and presented the obvious LIE!!! Well done!!! Order of Alinsky and Lenin Prize for you, Comrade!

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  • thescribbler

    If Ms Fluke will send me her address I’ll gladly send her a year supply of birth control. Hell, one aspirin held tightly between her legs every day…how much could it cost?!

    It’s like someone who smokes…if you can’t afford the cigarette, then don’t smoke.

  • rawheadrex

    I’d wager her greatest expense is paper sacks which only become contraceptives if they tear. Put one over his head, too, just in case. Oh, one other suggestion! You should shriek a little less when you are demanding other people help keep the air mattress that bought you inflated, and tell you friends, too; it might help all of you to attract the opposite sex, if that is what you and they really want.

  • Rick Rolling Santorum

    “Comrade”
    ah, you are an old soviet, eh?

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  • Paul

    Are you guys still upset about this? Go out more.

    Truly nobody is asking you to pay for anything. They are just asking to be able to get what they need regardless of the beliefs of the school they go to, the workplace they are at and so on.

    What is so complicated about this? This debate is so surreal that I am not sure we are on the same planet, let alone country.

    I am totally happy for Catholics NOT to use contraception ever. That’s their right and nobody has anything to say.

    Why should a Jewish person working at a Catholic hospital not be entitled to contraception is he/she wants it? He/she can get all sort of other treatment without checking with the Bishop or Pope.

    What’s truly ironic is that you are all about freedom. One sided freedom. Yours and yours only.

    Live your life the way you want. I don’t really care. Never use contraception. Never buy any birth control method. But if you choose to employ me and you know I don’t believe in any of your stuff, then give me the full coverage I deserve and I (NOT YOU) pay for!

    Or just say very clearly that you are an intolerant religious group that only believes in ONE freedom: your own!

    p.s. JPL17 … you the one talking about language …. and insults!!! Pllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!

  • JPL17

    @ #445 “.”

    “ha. anyone complaining about ‘civility’ here is just on the wrong website. :-)”

    Huh? I’m not sure what your point is (assuming you have one). But if you thought I was complaining about uncivil comments here, you have a reading comprehension problem. Complaining about uncivil comments is mostly a waste of time. Far Leftists have always used, and always will use, incivility as their main rhetorical weapon.

    What I primarily was doing was mocking a Leftist “concern troll” who had complained about uncivil comments here as if the Left had nothing to do with them. Secondarily, I was also mocking Leftists who substitute personal insults and lies for logical argument because they have no logical argument.

    Indeed, look at the pathetic Leftist record here. Even after 470 comments on this thread, not one Lefty has given a rational explanation for why hospitals affiliated with a major religion, which considers contraception and abortion to be inherently immoral, should be forced by the federal government to pay for someone ELSE’S contraception and morning-after pill.

    Such a rational explanation from Leftists is demanded here. This is because the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution expressly prohibits Congress from passing laws “prohibiting the free exercise” of religion; and because the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 expressly provides that:

    A health care provider or a health facility shall not be required to provide an item or service under a group health plan or health insurance coverage if the provider or facility objects to doing so on the basis of a religious belief or moral conviction.

    In light of our Constitutional prohibition on interference with exercise of one’s religion, and the above-quoted express statutory language (which is still valid law), how on earth do you justify a federal regulation requiring Catholic-affiliated hospitals to provide health insurance covering artificial contraception and the morning-after pill???

    I asked that question about 300 posts ago. But so far, not one Lefty has provided a logical answer. Moreover, many have instead resorted to bigoted insults directed at conservatives and people of faith. I conclude from this that Leftists don’t really have a logical answer to this question, and that many express pent-up anti-religious hatred and rage instead. Prove me wrong.

  • Paul

    JPL17,

    let me try again.

    This country is founded on the basis of the separation of church and state. The first amendment has been interpreted to understand that church and state ARE and SHOULD be separate entities.

    The State should respect freedom of religion. Religion should respect the State’s ability to do its job and protect all its citizens.

    The Constitution does not say that freedom of religion trumpets all other rights. There needs to be a balance and that is where the argument gets complicated.

    For example, polygamy is prohibited even though some religious groups believe that according to their religion that is what they are required to do.

    The solution that many States and now the federal government has come up with is the following: religious institutions engaged in the practice of their faith should not be “forced” to provide any medical treatment against their beliefs.

    Religious institutions engaged in other activities, not essentially related to the practice of their faith, cannot discriminate against those that are working there/being treated there and so on and so forth.

    In other words, the Catholic Church is not obliged to provide condoms to its Bishops, nuns, etc. nor to anyone else in the Church or Vatican.

    However, when the Catholic Church or any other faith chooses to run a university (nothing to do with the practice of religion arguably … it is an educational institution) or an hospital (again … it is to treat people)… then it should NOT impose its own religious beliefs to those that do not share them.

    That’s not too complicated. I think.

  • JPL17

    @ #477 “Paul”

    But if you choose to employ me and you know I don’t believe in any of your stuff, then give me the full coverage I deserve and I (NOT YOU) pay for!

    Huh? If you’re willing to pay for your contraception yourself; and if the Catholic Church isn’t preventing you from buying your own contraception (which of course they’re not); and if contraception is readily available at affordable prices (which of course it is); then it sounds like we could respect both the Church’s and your beliefs about contraception, by simply letting the Church provide you with health insurance coverage that’s consistent with Catholic beliefs; and letting you buy your own readily available contraception at affordable prices.

    Your solution, on the other hand, only respects your belief about contraception.

    So between the 2 solutions, yours is the less tolerant, and results in the least freedom.

    On the other hand, you claim to be tolerant, and to favor freedom.

    It doesn’t add up.

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  • Paul

    JPL17 @479

    Your solution “chooses” to give priority to the Catholic Church’s beliefs over mine. My solution actually allows the Church to do whatever it wants when it is actually doing the Church’s business.

    Education, hospitals, banks, etc. are really NOT what religious institutions are supposed to be doing. I don’t recall anything in the Bible about God and Jesus running a University or a Hospital? Let alone running banks, etc.

    When the Catholic church chooses to engage in secular activities, then it cannot claim religious freedom. Because a university is a university, whether Catholic, Muslim, Hindu or Jewish. The same goes for a hospital and bank and so on.

  • taylor
  • JPL17

    Paul, you’re evading the question.

    The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 expressly provides that:

    A health care provider or a health facility shall not be required to provide an item or service under a group health plan or health insurance coverage if the provider or facility objects to doing so on the basis of a religious belief or moral conviction.

    In contrast, the Obama Administration’s regulation requires Catholic-affiliated hospitals to provide health insurance to its employees covering artificial contraception and the morning-after pill, which products and services the Catholic hospital clearly “objects to…on the basis of a religious belief or moral conviction.”

    So my question is: Exactly how is the Obama Administration’s regulation consistent with the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993???

    Or to the contrary, isn’t it clear as day that the Obama Administration’s regulation plainly violates the statute???

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  • JPL17

    Your solution “chooses” to give priority to the Catholic Church’s beliefs over mine.

    That’s a lie. My solution lets you both exercise your beliefs.

  • check out this site for a little more honest approach to what is really going on http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201203020006

  • $3000.00. you think she might have lied? she is no fluke, she is a fake.

  • Rebecca Anastasia

    This post is total BS (and is almost a direct copy of posts on about 50 other right-wing blogs. Geez, at least TRY not to look as if you are getting marching orders. Do some original research on your own. Read the transcript of her testimony. It is not about her getting b/c for herself — it is about the denial of medically prescribed b/c pills used to treat other conditions being denied. It also has nothing to do with tax dollars. Students pay fr medical coverage — perhaps they should have a say in what is covered?
    The “plant” angle is based on a WaPo article where Fluke (who never claimed to be 23, BTW) and was upfront about being an activist (so, it is OK to be a right-wing activist, but not a left-wing activist??) where she said that she knew about the Georgetown policy when she enrolled, but enrolled anyway because of the quality of the education. Later, she decided to work to change a policy that she thought was wrong and harmful to female students.
    Once again, the right-wing talkers are proving to the women of America that they and the Republican Party they represent:
    1) don’t understand us, our bodies, or our lives
    2) don’t CARE to understand us
    3) think we don’t matter
    4) are willing to lie about what we say to make themselves look better
    5) claim we are being too sensitive because they are just “being funny” ie entertainers
    Now, if you were in a relationship with a man like that, would you be happy? Would you feel cherished and respected? If you were mentally healthy, would you kick is a$$ to the curb?
    I submit that any American woman who supports the Republican Party after all this is suffering from the equivalent mental distress of an abused wife or girlfriend whose self-esteem is so low she thinks it is all her fault. Please, seek therapy.

  • CJ

    Wow. What an amazing group of ridiculous, ignorant, self-righteous, hateful, “ugly Americans” posting. What an embarrassment you are to our country. I love my country fiercely and protect your right to speak still… but I have the right not to listen to you if I so choose.

  • Paul

    JPL17,

    I actually am an independent. Have voted for both Democrats and Republicans. But I want to continue to live in a country where when I go to college, to the hospital, a bank or a restaurant, religion is left out of the door.

    When I want religion I go to a church, a mosque, a synagogue, a temple. There I know religion is center stage and religious beliefs carry the day.

    When I am NOT in any of these places, I think no religion should dictate what I do or don’t do. When I am doing secular activities, religion (no particular one) should just stay out of it (or be involved if they choose to following secular rules like everyone else).

    Minimum wage legislation applies to Catholic hospitals too. Why shouldn’t it?
    Health standards apply to Catholic hospitals too? Why shouldn’t they?
    People of all faiths are treated in Catholic hospitals? Why shouldn’t they?

    Catholics should stay out of education, hospitals, etc. if they want to run them like churches. They should then just run churches, where NOBODY will tell them anything about what they do and can follow their own religion prescriptions (of course, criminal law applies there too).

  • JPL17

    @ #474 “Rick Rolling Santorum”

    “Comrade”
    ah, you are an old soviet, eh?

    Oh, to the contrary. I’m an umpteenth-generation American and former Soviet studies scholar who sees ugly parallels between the tactics of contemporary American Leftists and old-school Bolsheviks. I think you should be flattered that I noted your close adherence to Leninist and Alinskyite tactics.

  • valerie

    #68 March 2, 2012 at 2:49 pm
    Paul commented:

    The objections here have to do with forcing the Catholic Church to fund this woman’s business, when they have conscientious objections to that business.

  • Paul

    #492 Valerie

    When the Catholic church chooses to engage in secular activities open to all, believers and non, then they should NOT impose their religious beliefs on anyone.

    If they want to be free to practice their religion without any interference, then they should just run churches.

  • Allie

    @ 337 “the elector of saxony”
    VERY well said!

    BC is easily accessible to those who make the effort to obtain it at relatively low cost (see prior commenter with WM pharmacy prices and annual calculations). This is much like those with serious chronic health problems who want all their medications paid for, cry that they cannot afford it, but somehow manage to pay for their cigarette habit, alcohol, cell phone (no wait that is provided free these days too to the “needy” as a “right”)
    As a teenage girl, I still paid for my own BCP with no real income to speak of and I was (& still am) a Republican and a Christian. It all comes down to a sense of personal responsibility and accountability for our actions, choices and priorities (i.e. low level priorities should be paid for by someone else). And not all Dems are bad- I was given up for adoption, rather than aborted, by a family of staunch Democrats so I could be raised in a wonderful Conservative home. Thanks folks!!!!

  • MJ McNulty

    @#448–

    If you have any reading comprehension you can see that she attended Georgetown because of its academic prowess DESPITE its contraception policy. She was NOT looking to agitate, but merely seeking the best education education. Of course, anyone with critical capacity would recognize just from the premise of this article that no person would pick a law school for the sole reason of advocating a policy regarding contraceptions.

    But the very paragraph you quoted DOES confirm that. The very first sentence reads:

    Fluke came to Georgetown University interested in contraceptive coverage: She researched the Jesuit college’s health plans for students before enrolling, and found that birth control was not included.

    That means she was actively looking for a college to see whether or not they covered birth control under their insurance plans and saw that Georgetown, because they were a Catholic University, did not. She then states the following that you bolded: “I decided I was absolutely not willing to compromise the quality of my education in exchange for my health care,” says Fluke,
    Which means that she deliberately enrolled in Georgetown knowing full well what their policy was. And what did she do when she got there?

    [Fluke] has spent the past three years lobbying the administration to change its policy on the issue.

    Sounds like she also went there to intentionally stir things up if you ask me.

  • Right Wing morons…please reference WHO said she was 23 years old….???

    You crackpots and your ilk ( FIX News, Beck, Limbaugh, etc.) will be the death of this country….not anything the Democrats may do….

    http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/does-jim-hoft-see-leprechauns-too

  • JPL17

    @ #490 “Paul”

    But you’re still evading my simple question about whether the Obama Administration’s regulation violates the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993, by forcing Catholic-affiliated hospitals to provide health insurance covering birth control and the morning-after pill against their consciences.

    I take your failure to answer this simple question to mean that you’ve conceded that the regulation is, in fact, illegal.

    Finally, please note that I’ve avoided commenting on Rush Limbaugh’s statements here, because I think Rush is simply a major distraction from the real issue. The real issue is the Obama Administration’s trampling of the U.S. Constitution and Religious Freedom Restoration Act, and its arrogant, vindictive betrayal and humiliation of the Catholic Church.

    November can’t come soon enough.

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  • Les

    Miss Fluke suggests in the following cspan video clip that a co-ed’s budget for condoms runs at about $3,000 http://cs.pn/x9W1jI

  • Urthman

    Pretty clueless of you to be “stunned” that some law students are 30 years old. Duh.

  • Paul

    JPL17 at 497

    I have not evaded the question at all. You are the one that is not addressing the issues I raised and selectively chooses to raise one point or another.

    It is very simple. No religion can claim absolute freedom to do whatever it wants in the secular domain. Please address this point.

    If the Catholic church chooses to be in the business of employing people or educating students, then it cannot impose its own views on anyone.

    If I want to hear Catholic doctrine, I go to St Patrick and hear now Cardinal Dolan.

    If I go to Georgetown, it is to become a lawyer NOT a priest or a Catholic.

    When I go to St Patrick I do not expect the Church to distribute condoms, nor provide me with any information on contraception.

    When I go to Georgetown and I am there to study LAW, I pay for a health insurance (not for a copy of the Bible) and I should get that: health coverage.

    That is the issue.

    Your views of religion seems to be absolutist. Churches can opt out of whatever rule they don’t like on the basis of their religious beliefs?

    I guess in your view, a Catholic hospital should not treat a gay man or woman, cause they go against its beliefs.

    Yes, November will come and I will vote for Obama again as many other independents, because I do not wan to live in a Theocracy!

  • wanumba

    #493 March 3, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    Paul commented:

    #492 Valerie

    When the Catholic church chooses to engage in secular activities open to all, believers and non, then they should NOT impose their religious beliefs on anyone.

    If they want to be free to practice their religion without any interference, then they should just run churches.
    ::::::::::::::::::

    You have every right to not use the services offered of a Catholic Church supported hospital. It WAS a free country. Three years ago, everyone had their own private pay patient-insurer free market, picked hostpitals they liked, doctors they preferred, minded their OWN BUSINESS, and NONE of this was an issue. NONE.

    Suddenly it’ a whole new twisted world of YOU MUST PAY FOR THIS while ALSO screaming I AM NOT PAYING FOR ANYONE’S KIDS, EXCEPT TO ABORT THEM.

    Well, looks like it’s ALL about a super elite caste of Gollums which hoards everything to themselves and cuts everyone else OUT, so greedy and self-centered they refuse to even raise a next generation.

    The Bible was right about the endtimes people being the most SELFISH PIGS TO EVER WALK THE PLANET, BAR NONE. Well here we must be, because THIS is incredible.

    If all the things you CLAIM you think are important, how come you’ve said NOTHING against the monstrosity that is setting up all these conflicts: OBAMANATIONACARE.

    Gollums.

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  • Paul

    Wanumba @ 502

    The very simple truth is that all this was happening long before the health care law. In most States, this was the law as already and nobody really cared.

    Now THIS is the defining issue of our time. Yes, some people seem to think that America is ready to become the new Vatican State and that we can move back to clock to the Middle Ages, where the Inquisition ruled and women were burned alive.

    If you want to live your life according to the Bible, go ahead, that is your choice. I really truly do not care.

    I am just not interested in the Bible having any role in my life. I really do not care. The end of the world will come, for me, when I die. As it eventually comes for every single one of us.

    In this world, I personally want to live under secular rules. Hospitals are hospitals. Schools are schools. That’s why they are not called churches. See, different name, different purpose.

    I don’t want to government to tell churches what to do in a church. They can do what they want.

    I don’t want churches to tell governments or people who could care less about what a church thinks how to live their lives.

    You don’t want contraception. Don’t use it.

    You don’t want to marry a gay man. Don’t!

    Stay out of our secular lives, when we are pursuing secular activities.

    Or just join the Taleban and live in a religious state!
    Our Founding Fathers did not want to build a religious country. That’s why they said it should be separate from Church!

  • wanumba

    #490 March 3, 2012 at 3:00 pm
    Paul commented:

    Catholics should stay out of education, hospitals, etc. if they want to run them like churches.

    :::::::::::::::::::
    Providing health services is practicing Catholic religion, a form of helping one’s fellow man as part of religious observances. The very concept of ‘hospital” and ‘health services” and “medicine” are direct products of the Judeo-CHristian religious faiths.

    Pagans don’t “do” medical or “hospital.” They believe in “tough it out or die.” Karma, fate.

    I know the religion of the Left is every man for himself and share not, take all and brutal “social Darwinism,” and that children are despised burdens, but a lot of people think that’s selfish and nasty and prefer kinder and gentler religions.

    Seems you want to chase them around and interrupt them in their private business and demand they do what YOU want.

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  • khaleel

    Slag keep your legs shut! Bitch needs to keep her legs closed.

  • wanumba

    #505 March 3, 2012 at 4:13 pm
    Paul commented:

    Wanumba @ 502
    Now THIS is the defining issue of our time.
    ::::::::::::::::::

    Damn straight and YOU are NOT the one to define it.

    You can’t even figure out the difference between Christians and Muslims. How ridiculous and ignorant is that?

  • Allie

    @#501 Paul
    Yet Democrats will bend over backwards for any other religion’s “rights” besides Christianity be it Catholic, Protestant, etc. You allow those others to “opt” out cheerfully for political correctness or out of fear or ignorance or whatever confused twisted reason you manage to come up with. Surely you see how hypocritical that is? And yes those with strongly held religious beliefs should have the right to determine whether or not they participate in footing the secularist/socialist/statist bill. There will be no Theocracy but Obama’s not even thinly veiled attempt to alienate the Christian community even further and engage you in the bullying (and you’re going for it hook, line & sinker) thereby convincing more of you idiots to re-elect him “will only help drive this country into the ground over the next 4 years. When are you going to get that he DOES NOT have anyone’s interests at heart? Including yours or women or any other group he appears to align himself with to win votes.

  • Allie

    Obama wants you powerless and dependent. Get a clue

  • Paul

    Wanumba @ 509 and other comments

    You should not swear or use foul language. You are a God fearing person.

    How on earth did you assume I do not know the difference between Islam and Christianity? Was it a reference to the Taleban?

    You see that was just a reference to religious takeover of a State, like you are suggesting.

    You see, the Obama health care extends health coverage to everyone, even those who cannot pay. That’s cause that law, and I, care about our fellow citizens.

    I, although not religious in any way shape or form, believe that everyone should be treated if sick. I think religion has nothing to do with medicine.

    Finally, paganism is what you say it is. Some would call your religion a ritual. Your religion is ok with you, but you have the audacity to decide WHAT is a religion and describe other beliefs as pagan!

    You see, as I said, many times and will repeat again. I could not care less about ANY and ALL religions. Do as you please. Pray all day. Follow the Bible, the Koran, whatever it is that makes you happy.

    But LEAVE US ALONE and do not tell us how to live our lives. Cause we do not care. We live in a democracy NOT a theocracy!

  • MADgirl91

    Should Kosher delis or Muslim restaurants be required to sell pork to gentiles? Of course not, it’s not on the menu. If you want pork, go somewhere else.

    Contraception’s not on the menu at Catholic institutions. If you want contraception covered in your insurance, work somewhere else.

    Or here’s an idea: PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.

  • Paul

    510 Allie

    What are you talking about?

    Are you serious? Christianity is about contraception now? Like Jesus ever spoke about it ONCE??????

    You live in your own planet, where you believe pigs fly.

    Like Barney Frank said: Having a conversation with you is like having a conversation with a dining table. Not interested.

    p.s. I am sure in four years the USA will still be here, with Obama President or whoever the Republicans nominate (in case he wins). Honestly, just get out of your head and stop being so dramatic.

    It is just a condom for God’s sake!

  • Allie

    Ah, the dangers of Relativism…

  • Geeky Grandma

    You can’t ask a church-run university to stay out of your bedroom on one hand and then demand they pay for your Pills and condoms on the other. Be a grownup and buy your own birth control, and if you can’t afford it go to Planned Parenthood or your public health department to get whatever you want for free or low-cost… for an educated woman she sure is as dumb as a rock as to what’s available out there… check out the phone book or the Internet. Taxpayers have been paying for public birth control for decades.

  • MADgirl91

    “reproductive justice”? WTF?

    You mean, you get to have all the sex you want, someone else pays for your birth control or abortions? And then there will be the VD treaments, even AIDS–you’ll want treatment justice too.

    Listening to that lady speak just made me sad and ashamed that this is what women have come to. What happened to empowered, capable, achieving women? Now we have sniveling, whiny victims, powerless to come up with a few bucks each month to cover their pills.

    Have all the sex you want dear, I really don’t care. Just don’t expect me to underwrite it.

  • Paul

    #513 Madgirli91

    Should all workers in a Muslim restaurant get health coverage? Yes
    Should all workers in a Jewish restaurant get health coverage? Yes

    If the Catholic Church does not want to comply with secular laws, it can stay out of secular activities. By the way, they would not be able to survive without non-Catholics in their universities, schools, etc. cause the number of practicing Catholics is going down every second.

    Yes, 98% of Catholic women use contraception …. so guess how much they listen to these men on this and many other issues?

  • Allie

    @514 Paul
    Did you even read the post you referenced? Or perhaps you are confusing it with a prior comment? I’m not saying anything about it being about Christianity, only your comments about opting out and the typical Dem response to support any other religious cause (such as Muslim).
    And where did you get the idea I have an issue with any form of BC? I support one’s right to BC, be it condom, pill, diaphragm, etc. I’ve used several forms myself. And what kind of misguided person quotes Barney Frank as a put-down or comeback? If it wasn’t so comical, it would downright sad. Or tragicomic perhaps?

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  • Paul

    Madgirl91

    First of all, she is paying for health insurance that she buy through Georgetown. Cause in this free market system, that’s what you do. You get covered through your employer and you pay for it.

    So, YOU really are not paying anybody’s insurance but YOUR own, if you have one. So get off your high horse.

    Secondly, should insurance stop covering obesity related diseases, cancer, etc. etc. Cause if you are “responsible” for your disease, then you should not be covered? How crazy is that? Yes, you get health insurance to cover the cost of your healthcare … that includes all diseases. End of the story.

    Finally, she is an empowered woman all right. So empowered that she is not going to be told by anyone how to live her life! Go Sandra. Keep it coming.

  • Paul

    Allie above.

    I did read your comment(s). Sadly, I did and you are ranting on about Democrats and Socialist and all the rest. Obama is trying to alienate Christians and I am brainwashed and an idiot. Yes, I did read it all.

    Of course, you think Barney Frank is not to be quoted. But sweetest Allie, that’s why we live on different planets. You live in conspiracy land. I live in NY City.

  • Paul

    @Allie (all the comments)

    I defend every religion’s right to practice what they want IN churches, mosques, synagogues, temples, etc. etc.

    I could not care less about what goes on in those places. Not my business.

    Outside those places, there is one law: THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Not the Bible. Not the Koran. The CONSTITUTION.

    So, if you want to live under the Bible, stay in the Church and do not open schools or hospital. Cause then, you will have to comply with the Constitution and the laws of the great United States of America adopted by our Congress and signed by our President, democratically elected for four years and soon to be reelected for four more.

    If the Pope wants to run this country, first he needs to be American (maybe Dolan), then he should run for office. Then we can talk!

  • Allie

    And as un-christian as it is, both coasts could fall into the sea as far as I’m concerned. So we hate each other, blah, blah, blah. I just want to live my life without liberals trying to make me pay my hard-earned money for their crap just as you want religion to stay out of yours.

  • Bill Netherland

    Many of the NFN (Non Fox News) reports on the Sandra Fluke story keep using “testified” and “to Congress”. No such thing. She attended a meeting, you know where two or more people sit down for an exchange of information. The “meeting” in question was organized by Nancy Pelosi and consisted of Democrats. How was this “testimony” received ? From an oath “Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth, so help you Pelosi?” You guys have been had.

  • Paul

    Allie,

    YOU are not paying for anything for me. NOTHING.

    I could not care less about what you do or how you live.

    I pay my way in life and I subsidize yours. Cause it is actually our liberal states that subsidize the Bible belt and everything else.

    I have no interest in telling you what to do. Cause I will never be in a place where you are, nor would I wish. I don’t need nor want your money. Cause I have my own!!! Like
    Sandra, she pays her own health insurance. We don’t need nor want your money. We are good!

  • Julie Post

    Grow up boys and take some responsibiliy. It takes two if you think about it, but, apparently you have not. Your vile language proves this. Do you even know what a mature, loving relationship with a women looks like? Apparently not, apparently your information on intimacy comes from strip clubs and flicks, just like the several-times-divorced guy who rants inappropriate bufoonery over the air.

  • MADgirl91

    #433 NC Mountain Girl: Ha! Caffeine Justice! Brilliant!

    #512 Paul dear, you go ahead and live your life any way you want. Really. But please extend me the same consideration. I don’t want to pay for your lifestyle choices.

    Since when is contraception “health care”? That notion has seeped into our culture so getting insurance to pay for it seems rational. Fertility and pregnancy aren’t diseases. But the insurance companies figured it was economical in the long run, so OK they’d cover it. And the drug companies are happy. Now we have people saying birth control is a “reproductive justice” and should be “free”! See how that happens? What’s next? Caffeine Justice!

  • Paul

    MADgirl91 dearest,

    you are NOT paying for my lifestyle or anything else. Where did you get that idea? Has Sandra sent you her medical bills?

    Have you ever paid mine?

    I doubt you have. I pay my bills and my health insurance and as far as I am concerned, reproductive care is included and important to me. You can opt out of that in your health care plan. That’s fine with me.

    Contraception is designed to allow people who enjoy a healthy sex life to continue having one without having 20 children. Cause most people cannot afford to raise 20 children, but enjoy having sex.

    So sweet MADgilr91, unless you want to pay for my medical bills, you really should NOT be interested in what my health insurance covers. And to your surprise, it covers a lot. Cause I like it that way and I pay an awful lot of money every month to get the most comprehensive health care coverage money can buy!

  • Allie

    Paul
    Agree to disagree- I’m happy that you assumedly do not partake in all the myriad welfare programs and pay your own way. Congratulations! I also understand where your anger comes from, you have outed yourself quite nicely. Have a good evening, I understand NY is a potential hotbed of morally questionable activities, so go enjoy yourself. This has been educational yet fun so I thank you!

  • shameful

    Keep it up, cretins. The birth control in question wasn’t used by Fluke and it was needed to control a disorder that caused ovarian cysts the size of golf balls. The more you know-nothing idiots dump on this woman for having the audacity to tell the story of a friend losing an ovary when she couldn’t afford birth control, the more your party is damaged. Obviously the Hoft Parrot Brigade is having a great time repeating whatever Limbaugh tells them on this, and I hope it continues. I love nothing more than to see Republican start slipping and letting America know what they really think. If you’re under the impression that the rest of the country isn’t looking on in horror, you’re even more deluded than I realize.

  • MADgirl91

    Paul, it’s very simple: no one is forcing you or Ms Fluke to go to Georgetown or any other Catholic institution. She made a choice.

    If I choose to go to a kosher deli for lunch, I can’t expect to be served pork. Jews don’t serve pork, even to gentiles. Against their religion. I get that. I respect that. You don’t.

  • Paul

    MADgirl91

    I do respect everybody’s religion. Absolutely. You can preach and practice what you want. IN CHURCH.

    Georgetown, on its website, does not say that unless you are a practicing Catholic, you should not enroll. Cause if it was open to only Catholics it will close tomorrow (cause there are not that many left).

    Georgetown is NOT the Catholic church. It really is a university. When you to go Georgetown, you go to study (law in this case). They provide you with health care in case you need health coverage. You, NOT the church, pay for it. So, YOU not the church, should decide whether you want contraception or not.

    It really is that simple. This has been made into a religious war, when it really is all about the Catholic Church trying to impose its own dogma (that nobody follows anyway) outside its churches.

    See, if the Catholic church doctrine held any validity on this issue (cause Jesus NEVER spoke about contraception), people would listen and follow the Bishops. Sadly, this rule has been made up by men and that’s why nobody really cares (98 per cent do not follow this rule). When arguments do not work, the Catholic Church moves on to forcing people. Like they did with their crusades and so on.

    It is indeed that simple. So simple, it is impossible to argue and you changed your tune (now you don’t pay for my health insurance anymore … right???).

  • Paul

    MADgirl91

    Forgot to add. Nobody is forcing the Catholic Church to run a university or a hospital. They can run a seminary for priests, then there is no need to provide contraception to anyone.

    Choices. Choices. I am all for free choices. Churches can and should run secular organizations, but then they got to apply secular rules.

  • wanumba

    #531 March 3, 2012 at 5:17 pm
    shameful commented:

    Keep it up, cretins. The birth control in question wasn’t used by Fluke and it was needed to control a disorder that caused ovarian cysts the size of golf balls. The more you know-nothing idiots dump on this woman for having the audacity to tell the story of a friend losing an ovary when she couldn’t afford birth control
    :::::::::::::

    WHere’s her “friend?”
    NO name, just “friend” who’s “gay.”

    Well, we actually need more than that to just get a library card. Miss Fluke wants us all to accept that as a good reason to bill us BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

    $240,000 Cornell University Bachelors degree in Gender Studies. Georgetown Law $55,000 a year. Does Miss Fluke and her elite pals get contraception delivered by limo … on solid silver platters?

  • MADgirl91

    Paul, here’s how health insurance premiums are set: when the government decides that some new category of care has to be covered, like birth control or drug rehab, everyone’s premiums go up. Those services are baked into everyone’s premiums. That’s what I mean when I say I’m paying for your birth control.

    It’s like we all have to pay the car insurance premiums of BMWs when most of us drive Fords. Imagine what car insurance premiums would be if oil changes, tires, and tune ups were covered. Really high–right? Well that’s why health insurance premiums are so high–they gotta cover things like birth control pills. Why do people not flinch when they get a $500 car service bill, but a $10 BC pill Rx–oh, reproductive injustice!

    Oops, I just gave you your next cause: car repair justice.

  • wanumba

    #486 March 3, 2012 at 2:53 pm
    taylor commented:

    check out this site for a little more honest approach to what is really going on http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201203020006

    :::::::::::::::

    Yikes! George Soros 1% billionaire alert! Blood money reporting!

  • MIke 2112

    Rush wouldn’t know a sincere apology if it came in a Viagra bottle!

  • MADgirl91

    Paul–I’ll say it again, you and Ms Fluke can CHOOSE not go to Catholic institutions. Problem solved. And avoid those Kosher delis too.

  • Howdy Doo

    Condoms = 30 cents each x $3000 = 10,000 condoms…….Wow!!!! she be one prolific fornicator.

  • Paul

    MADgirl91,

    you see, health coverage, is quite important. You know, when you are sick and untreated, you can actually die. That’s why it is kind of important. That’s why, I guess, you have one. I hope you do, just in case.

    And you know, I have not had a major disease so far and I hope you haven’t had one either. So, you see, all that I pay goes to pay for the treatment of others. But you see, I am ok with that.

    If one day I need expensive healthcare, someone else will help me out. That’s how it works.

    Yes, you can think health coverage is funny. Until you need one. Yes, usually those that think it is not that important are those that have it! Cause trying needing healthcare without insurance. See what happens then.

    Yes, it is called reproductive justice. Cause what you have and I am sure treasure, should be extended to everyone else. Cause if you think health insurance is so useless, why don’t you give up yours and so contribute to lower premiums for us all including me.

    You see I am tired of subsidizing your health insurance policy. Just get off health insurance, so my premium goes down!

  • Paul

    Wanumba,

    you should ask your friend Rush, who today apologized to Ms Fluke, cause he is part of the elite too. You know his latest contract was $ 400 million …. just in case you didn’t know.

    Besides, what have you got against elites and rich people? You forgot you are a Republican?

  • Paul

    Allie,

    yes I live in New York City. Where everyone is free to live as they please as long as it does not bother anyone else.

    I sure have a lot of fun here and work very hard and mind my business and do not impose my view on anyone else.

    I hope you do visit NYC and you will see that you can be as religious or as atheist as you want to be and nobody really cares. We have them all here and we all manage to respect each other, just by avoiding imposing our views on those who disagree.

    I actually think that is what makes this country amazingly beautiful. And New York, believe me, is beautiful. Truly is. Come and see for yourself. You may be surprised to see happy people going to church, whilst a bunch of drag queens gets off the subway. All in the same place. Imagine that. Imagine that. Tolerance and openness….

  • MADgirl91

    Youcef Nadarkhani has been executed in Iran. He is the Christian pastor who has been imprisoned and found guilty by the courts in Iran of being a Christian. Now he’s been executed in spite of international appeals to spare his life. He was hanged today.

    Paul–see where religion intolerance leads?

  • Paul

    MADgirl91

    what has that got to do with the debate on healthcare in the US?

    Nobody should be executed for any reason. Your example proves exactly the opposite. See where theocracy leads???

    Nobody should be executed for anything he/she believes. Honestly I fail to see the link?

    I don’t want anyone to be executed. Ever!

  • Mike Giles

    Simply incredible. So many here are completely unable to comprehend that I am not against you having something simply because I don’t want to pay for it. Have all the sex you want, but don’t ask for me to pay for the birth control unless I’m the person you’re having the sex with. You can own a Porsch if you want to, just don’t ask me to foot the bill. The point about this is if you want the birth control extra, simply pay for it. As for Rush calling her a slut, he simply took the figure SHE STATED, and did some quick math. Either she exaggerated her costs – in which case she a liar, or she was accurate – in which case she is spending way to much of her time sleeping around (i.e., a slut). Or lastly, she’s shopping in the wrong place – in which case she’s simply wasteful. I also notice that not a few people here can’t seem to get past sex to get at the underlying point. For example, the people who bring up Viagra are simply fixated on the sex aspect, and have trouble with the idea that it’s actually medication for a specific MEDICAL condition. It treats an abnormality. The people who bring up Viagra, are simply attempting to use a cool leftist comeback and they haven’t really thought it through.

    And there is the question of respect for the beliefs of our fellow man. I don’t walk into a Kosher deli and demand a Ham and Cheese sandwich. I recognize that the establishment has religious strictures against that particular food. I wouldn’t expect to find pork chops on the lunch menu, if I worked for a Muslim organization. But for some reason, some people think it’s just fine to attempt to force Catholic organizations to ignore their stated religious beliefs.

  • wanumba

    #512 March 3, 2012 at 4:28 pm
    Paul commented:

    Wanumba @ 509 and other comments

    You should not swear or use foul language. You are a God fearing person.

    How on earth did you assume I do not know the difference between Islam and Christianity? Was it a reference to the Taleban?

    I, although not religious in any way shape or form, believe that everyone should be treated if sick. I think religion has nothing to do with medicine.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    God is much more forgiving of any irate reply to falsehoods than of any smooth-talking liars. God actually likes to see a bit of enthusiasm defending the truth. Lying He detests. That’s His word: detests.

    You better get up to speed. Medicine is a direct product of the Judeo-CHristian religions. DIRECT.

    Paganism does NOT allow for testing or altering of the natural world. Pagans are taught that the spirits which inhabit inanimate objects will be offended and they will get the transgressor. Relgions that believe that God is in everything also did not produce medicine as we know it. They teach that since god was in everything, it was blasphemy to alter anything. “Healing” then is by spells, incantations, paying fees to witchdoctors. It remains RIFE in the Third World today, very common and a lot of people worldwide die and suffer because of it.

    Modern Medicine which has saved so many lives and improved the quality of life for billions, did NOT come out of pagan societies. The first hospitals were established by CHristians, medicine, medical discoveries have been overhelmingly made by Jewish and CHristian believers.

    Overwhelmingly. In the Judeo-CHristian religious tradition, mankind has permission from God to use the earth, learn about it, make something of it to better the lives of human beings. In the Judeo-CHristian religious tradition, God is NOT in creation, He is apart from it so tampering and testing the natural world is not blasphemy.

    You can be whatever you want to be, it’s always free choice, but to be ignorant of the HISTORY and the reality of the Judeo-Christian establishment and core contribution to the betterment of ALL mankind, especially through Modern Medicine and providing of quality health care to billions before ANY governments got interested is without excuse.

  • MADgirl91

    Paul: I would like a health insurance policy that does NOT cover: routine visits, birth control, drug rehab, mental health services, chiropractic, alternative medicine etc etc etc.

    But I don’t get that choice. The govt makes that decision for me, and I get a bigger premium.

    Special interest groups like mental health lobby the govt to force insurance to cover these services. They get a guaranteed stream of patients who think the services are now “free”. Insurance companies pass those fees into our higher premiums.

  • I noticed how at first all the leftist were saying they came here after do a search. Now that they’ve been outted they’re accusing us of using talking points from “Fox” and to prove it give us links to crock of liars and media propaganda matters.
    Excuse me while I Laugh my butt off!!!!

  • Patty
  • cj

    She has always been presented as a 3rd year Georgetown law student in all articles I have read. And 30 is the average age – not 23 of 3rd year law students.

  • Patty
  • MADgirl91

    Paul–you may think you are the tolerant one, but you are not. You simply cannot stand the fact that Catholic institutions cannot be bent to your secular will. You could just not go to them, but that’s not enough. You must break them.

    Kosher delis are not synagogues. Muslim restaurants are not mosques. Yet they enforce their Kosher/Halal laws.

    Will these be your next target? Be sure to let us know how your demands of the muslims go.

  • Paul

    Madgirl91,

    I am all for that. I think you should be able to opt out if you choose to. It should be YOUR choice. Not your employer’s choice.

    I mean, if you do not want to be covered for all sort of things, you should not be.

    But if you want to be covered, you should have the right to do so.

  • Patty

    Rush may have apologize and the one word was not a great choice. But I believe she is a plant and I think Pelosi is behind this or some other person in the Obama administration. Pelosi doesn’t read the bill before signing. Worked behind close doors and this administration, well, nothing is sacred.

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  • Patty

    Breaking: Sandra Fluke Exposed As Fraud, Activist, Possible White House Operative – With Video

    http://patdollard.com/2012/03/breaking-sandra-fluke-exposed-as-fraud-activist-possible-white-house-operative-with-video/

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  • Paul

    MADGirl91,

    I am not targeting anyone. That really is not my job. I am not the one telling people what to do. You and your friends in the Catholic Church are doing that.

    Yes, there are some basic rules that apply everywhere, regardless of the employer’s nature. So, restaurants can choose to serve what they want, yet they pay minimum wage and provide health insurance. Catholic universities can teach whatever they want, but they pay minimum wage and health insurance.

    It is really that simple. This has NOTHING to do with religious freedom. This is not about university. It is about an employer in the business of education that happens to be Catholic. Again, Jesus never opened a university. Not sure what religion has got to do with that? And please, please, help me find anywhere in the Bible where contraception is referred to? Page please????

  • Patty

    Sandra Fluke’s Appearance Is No Fluke
    Posted by Just a Grunt on Mar 02, 2012 at 10:49 am

    For me the interesting part of the story is the ever-evolving “coed”. I put that in quotes because in the beginning she was described as a Georgetown law student. It was then revealed that prior to attending Georgetown she was an active women’s right advocate. In one of her first interviews she is quoted as talking about how she reviewed Georgetown’s insurance policy prior to committing to attend, and seeing that it didn’t cover contraceptive services, she decided to attend with the express purpose of battling this policy. During this time, she was described as a 23-year-old coed. Magically, at the same time Congress is debating the forced coverage of contraception, she appears and is even brought to Capitol Hill to testify. This morning, in an interview with Matt Lauer on the Today show, it was revealed that she is 30 years old, NOT the 23 that had been reported all along.

    In other words, folks, you are being played. She has been an activist all along and the Dems were just waiting for the appropriate time to play her.

    While she is described as a “third year law student” they always fail to mention that she is also the past president of Law Students for Reproductive Justice.

    July 30 2011

    Does your campus’s LSRJ chapter face opposition in regard to facilitating a comprehensive conversation about reproductive justice? Well mine definitely does! While my campus has a mix of people with different backgrounds, and a rich liberal arts community, the Midwest doesn’t exactly scream bleeding liberal. Some LSRJ chapters at conservative campuses face opposition in the form of other, more conservative, student run organizations; some face it from their administrations, and others from their peers, or the community in general. Whatever the opposition is, it can be incredibly frustrating and disheartening.

    The question is, how do we combat this conservative opposition and oppression, in order to facilitate a discussion and educate others about the RJ movement? I am obviously not alone in facing these problems, as Sandra Fluke of Georgetown lead a packed room in a discussion on this question at the first Issue Caucus that I attended at the Leadership Institute, LSRJ’s national conference at Berkeley.

    While no solution was definitively reached, and I personally don’t begin to have the “right” answer, I was really charged by the discussion and feel many great ideas were presented. Some campus chapters decided to take an adversarial approach, feeling it important to use those “scary” words the opposition fears.

    Further background research on Ms Fluke reveals that she got her start in government in New York in 2009.

    http://www.jammiewf.com/2012/sandra-flukes-appearance-is-no-fluke/

    READ MORE

  • TomB

    Paul, I see you are still here spouting your alternate reality.

    Did you ever get around to telling us what the name of your magic insurance company (you know, the one that lets the doctor decide the coverage) is, or what religion (the one that bans “right wingers”) you belong to?

    Anyway, I couldn’t help but laugh at the patent absurdity of your latest utterance.

    yes I live in New York City. Where everyone is free to live as they please as long as it does not bother anyone else.

    NYC? REALLY!?

    The city with the nanny mayor that bans guns (so much so that they arrested a marine when he tried to check his licensed handgun at the Empire State Building)?

    And banned smoking in parks and beaches?

    And banned restaurants from cooking with trans-fats?

    And is now in the process of reducing or eliminating salt in restaurants?

    And wants to stop the sale of sugar-sweetened soda?

    And tried (but failed) to limit the sale and advertisement of alcohol?

    You mean THAT kind of “free to live as they please”?

  • Patty

    Sandra Fluke’s professional background in domestic violence and human trafficking began with Sanctuary for Families in New York City. There, she launched the agency’s pilot Program Evaluation Initiative. While at Sanctuary, she co-founded the New York Statewide Coalition for Fair Access to Family Court, which after a twenty-year stalemate, successfully advocated for legislation granting access to civil orders of protection for unmarried victims of domestic violence, including LGBTQ victims and teens. Sandra was also a member of the Manhattan Borough President’s Taskforce on Domestic Violence and numerous other New York City and New York State coalitions that successfully advocated for policy improvements impacting victims of domestic violence.

    As the 2010 recipient of the Women Lawyers Association of Los Angeles Fran Kandel Public Interest Grant, she researched, wrote, and produced an instructional film on how to apply for a domestic violence restraining order in pro per. She has also interned with the Coalition to Abolish Slavery & Trafficking; Polaris Project; Neighborhood Legal Services of Los Angeles County; Break the Cycle; the Domestic Violence Legal Empowerment and Appeals Project; NOW Legal Defense and Education Fund; Crime Victim and Sexual Assault Services; and the Human Services Coalition of Tompkins County.

    Through Georgetown’s clinic programs, Sandra has proposed legislation based on fact-finding in Kenya regarding child trafficking for domestic work, and has represented victims of domestic violence in protection order cases. Sandra is the Development Editor of the Journal of Gender and the Law, and served as the President of Law Students for Reproductive Justice, and the Vice President of the Women’s Legal Alliance. In her first year, she also co-founded a campus committee addressing human trafficking. Cornell University awarded her a B. S. in Policy Analysis & Management, as well as Feminist, Gender, & Sexuality Studies in 2003.

    My only question is, how does someone go from being a champion of domestic violence issues to an expert of women’s reproductive health issues?

    http://www.jammiewf.com/2012/sandra-flukes-appearance-is-no-fluke/

  • Rachel

    She IS a whore…and a leftwing plant.

    The leftists plan their attacks long range….these supposedly “innocent victims” don’t just pop up out of no where. They are planted. This whole birth control red herring was planned ever since Obama’s support among women started taking a nose dive 2 yrs ago. They have to bring the gullibles back into the fold. Using the Alinsky-Coward-Pliven methods, they launched this strategy when Stephanopolous asked the question about birth control and states right to ban it at one of the earlier debates. Mitt Romney didn’t answer it and just asked “where did this question come from? No one is talking about banning birth control!” Unthinkingly, Rick Santorum walked right into it by answering the question about states rights…and the media got the green light to start painting Republicans as neanderthals who want to prevent birth control from being available. All we want is for these women to pay for it themselves. It’s not expensive in the first place! And what will we have to start covering next….their motel bills and romantic dinners to get them in the mood?

  • #490 Paul
    Catholics should stay out of education, hospitals, etc. if they want to run them like churches. They should then just run churches, where NOBODY will tell them anything about what they do and can follow their own religion prescriptions (of course, criminal law applies there too).
    The Church has run hospitals and Schools for centuries. Are you now saying that these fine institutions should be shut down? Are you saying that in this free nation a private group does not have the right to run enterprises that provide services to their members because non-members who may also use these services may not agree with the beliefs of that private group? The fact is NOBODY should tell them how to run their schools and hospitals which are among the best in the world, all over the world!

  • Ida

    If she plans to spend $3,000 on birth control over 3 years of law school, she is not a woman, but a machine. At 0.76 cents per condom, she would be doing it 4 times a day. If she got a handle on her libido, maybe she could get by on $350 dollars. Do they have medicine for this type of situation? Forget it. She would want us to pay for that, too.

    Interesting that she is on the way to becoming a 1%, as the mean salary for an attorney is $129,440, but she needs the middle class to help her out? Pathetic.

  • Patty

    OT

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUDyPpfLEFc

    New ad Go to …. Obama

  • TomB

    But if you want to be covered, you should have the right to do so.

    What health insurance gives the patient the ability to pick everything they want covered?

  • Patty
  • TomB

    Yes, there are some basic rules that apply everywhere, regardless of the employer’s nature. So, restaurants can choose to serve what they want,

    Uh, ask Mayor Bloomberg about that one sport.

  • Chicago Nick

    And now Rush just apologized to this slut and basically told all of us out here who defended him idiots in my opinion. Not good. I mean, this apology crap makes me puke. A ringer leftist ho and he calls her on it and then apologizes. WTF.

  • Paul

    TomB,

    yes in NYC you cannot do things that harm others. Like using guns to shoot someone! Isn’t that terrible? Why would anyone take a gun to on the Empire State Building? To fight what: UFOs???

    Yes, you can’t smoke in public, because I don’t need to get poisoned by your smoke. But by all means, keep smoking IN YOUR HOME where it does not cause any harm to me.

    That’s what this is all about. I salute your right NOT to have health insurance, to have guns in your home and welcome gun owners in your home anytime, shooting each other and all the rest. Just keep it there! In your home.

    p.s. All health insurances in NY state work that way. You know, that’s what we liberals like … to take care of ourselves, so we live longer and piss you off!

    P.p.s. Looooooooooooooooooooove Bloomberg! Wish he was running for President. Maybe in 2016, after Obama gets his second term and he can be a truly liberal President. That’ll be nice!

  • John Decker

    There is nothing in the transcript of the Matt Lauer interview that says Sandra Fluke is 30 years old. It was theorized because people at The Blaze feel that she must be older than 23. There are no such facts attached here. It is hilarious to see the idiots here swallowing this spoon-fed nonsense like rabid dogs.

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  • Lady4Liberty

    Public Interest Scholarship at 30 — late bloomer! Can’t look straight into the camera, that is your first sign. Lie 1….contraceptives are not used to control seizures caused by hormone imbalances. Lie 2…it is not recommended for any women to get pregnant right after giving birth to a child, if there was a special condition, name it, no hippa violation since she did not disclose any names. Sex is a personal choice and responsibility, not the general public’s responsibility to foot the bill for anyone’s sex life, or the consequences thereof.

  • TomB

    yes in NYC you cannot do things that harm others. Like using guns to shoot someone! Isn’t that terrible? Why would anyone take a gun to on the Empire State Building? To fight what: UFOs???

    What does owning a legally purchased and registered handgun have to do with shooting someone?

    Yes, you can’t smoke in public, because I don’t need to get poisoned by your smoke. But by all means, keep smoking IN YOUR HOME where it does not cause any harm to me.

    How does smoking in a park harm anybody? So much for freedom.

    That’s what this is all about. I salute your right NOT to have health insurance, to have guns in your home and welcome gun owners in your home anytime, shooting each other and all the rest. Just keep it there! In your home.

    Strawmen.

    p.s. All health insurances in NY state work that way. You know, that’s what we liberals like … to take care of ourselves, so we live longer and piss you off!

    Work what way?

    P.p.s. Looooooooooooooooooooove Bloomberg! Wish he was running for President. Maybe in 2016, after Obama gets his second term and he can be a truly liberal President. That’ll be nice!

    You ignored all the rest of my examples. How does cooking with trans fats affect anybody except those who CHOOSE to eat. The same with salt. Or sugar. Or alcohol.

    Do you support the bans of all of these substances?

  • MADgirl91

    Paul–you’re wobbly on the Kosher deli point, you can’t have it both ways. If Catholics can’t run hospitals where their religious principles are maintained, Jews can’t run restaurants where their Kosher rules are maintained.

  • MADgirl91

    TomB–I never cease to be amazed at how puritannical the left is when it comes to things like diet and smoking, but when it comes to weed and sex, no limits man! Any idea why that is?

    And Tom, liberals like you want others to subsidize your habits. Ms Fluke is your newest poster child. Frankly, she’s an embarassment to woman kind.

  • MADgirl91

    Sorry TomB–just realized you were reacting to Paul our friend of the tolerant left.

  • TomB

    Paul’s a great example of the typical liberal. He is so puffed up about his commitment to the freedom to choose, but then we find out that it is HE who gets to do the choosing.

    Convenient, that.

  • TomB

    NP

  • JPL17

    @ #501 “Paul”

    You are the one that…selectively chooses to raise one point or another [instead of answering my arguments].

    False. I haven’t been raising points “selectively.” In fact, I’ve been consistently making the same point in nearly every post: namely, that the Obama Administration’s regulation is illegal.

    To the extent I have been ignoring your other points, it’s been mainly because they’re irrelevant. For example, you’re personal opinion that Catholic hospitals should have to follow all rules that apply to secular hospitals really doesn’t matter, since for the past 19 years Congress has already exempted Catholic hospitals from laws that would otherwise force them to provide health insurance covering things the Church considers immoral. Why should I waste time addressing arguments of yours that completely ignore the current state of the law???

    That said, since you’ve specifically asked me to respond to these other arguments of yours, I will.

    1. One of your arguments seems to be that “No religion can claim absolute freedom to do whatever it wants in the secular domain.” Well, so what??? Here you’re just swatting down a “strawman” argument, because I don’t know anyone who’s arguing that religions should have absolute freedom to do whatever they want in the secular domain.

    What we are arguing is that the federal government should have to show a compelling state interest before it can force a religious institution to act against its own moral or religious practices; and even then, the state should be required to pick the solution that accomplishes its goals with the least interference with the religious practice in question.

    Unfortunately for you, there is no compelling state interest in providing Americans with free contraceptives and the morning-after pill. You yourself have admitted that contraceptives are legal and readily available in this country at affordable prices. Indeed, Americans have paid for their own contraception for 60 years without any serious problems. Therefore, clearly there’s no “compelling state interest” here. In fact, the state interest involved is trivial.

    Even if there were a compelling state interest in providing free contraception (which there isn’t), forcing religious hospitals to provide health coverage covering contraceptives and the morning-after pill is clearly not the solution that accomplishes this goal with the least interference with religious practices. For example, the government could easily provide contraception vouchers directly to anyone who applies for them, which would redeemable at pharmacies, health clinics, etc. In contrast, forcing religious hospitals to provide contraceptives and the morning-after pill (or insurance covering those items) probably interferes the most with the religious practices in question.

    So for all these reasons, the federal government should not have the power to force Catholic hospitals to provide contraceptives and the morning-after pill (or insurance covering those items).

    2. Another one of your arguments seems to be that the Catholic Church is somehow not “practicing religion,” or not “acting as a church,” when it operates hospitals and schools. This is nonsense.

    In case you don’t know this, the First Amendment doesn’t only prohibit state interference with worship activities taking place inside a physical church. It goes further and expressly prohibits state interference with the free “exercise” of religion. The “exercise” of religion in this country includes not only going to church, but also private and public prayer; the sacraments; observing fasts; eating or avoiding certain foods; giving to the poor; feeding the hungry; visiting the sick and imprisoned; educating the young; treating the sick; forgiving others; and so on.

    Obviously the operation of religious hospitals and religious schools fall squarely within these categories. They therefore do constitute the “exercise of religion,” and are clearly entitled to protection from government interference under the First Amendment.

    3. Another one of your arguments seems to be that, if we don’t force Catholic hospitals to buy contraceptives (or provide insurance covering them), then they’ll also be free to refuse to treat people who disagree with the Church’s teachings. For example, in one post you wrote, “I guess in your view, a Catholic hospital should not treat a gay man or woman, [be]cause they go against its beliefs.”

    First, this argument of yours is one of the most ignorant, bigoted anti-Catholic comments I’ve ever heard. You should know (and if you don’t, then I’m hereby enlightening you) that the Catholic Church teaches that all men are created in God’s image and deserving of love, including gays, and that the refusal to treat a sick or injured man or woman because of his or her sexual orientation would be a serious sin.

    Secondly, Catholic hospitals have already been exempt from buying contraceptives (or insurance covering them) for the past 19 years. Yet I’ve never heard of a single instance of a Catholic hospital ever refusing to treat someone because he or she disagreed with Church teachings. So this argument of yours is a crock.

    If you made any other arguments than these, I must have missed them, probably because they were so incoherent.

  • STLHawkeye

    Wal-Mart sells contraceptives for $9 bucks a month. Fluke paid $3k/year??? Now we know why liberals run $1.5 trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see. Plus, really? I need to see the whole package.

  • MADgirl91

    JPL17–thank you so much for comment #581. That took some time to write and it was very instructive and well reasoned.

    Paul, your reaction? Paul? Paul?.

  • Margaret Tullis

    I bet she hasn’t missed any of her manni’s or pedi’s, etc,

  • MADgirl91

    I think this will back fire for the left and Obama. This woman has made herself look ridiculous, and people are just sick and tired of others demanding their weight be pulled.

    “Reproductive Justice”—just can’t get over that one. They say it with a straight face too.

    I think our friend Paul has been Breitbarted!

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  • SandyfromChesterfield

    Maybe if we all get together and pay for her cable bill then she could afford her contraceptives.

  • the part the DEMOCRATS DON”T WANT MADE PUBLIC. . .the $3000 dollar amount quoted by this woman is the cost of a 3 year prescription of “YAZ”, the MOST EXPENSIVE CONTRACEPTIVE KNOWN TO MODERN SCIENCE. Seeing as how these ladies are “Supposed” to be Educated. . .why can they not take a generic prescription of “YAZ” for half the cost? Why can they not simply take “The Pill” commonly sold for about $15/month. . .or even CHOOSE the Variety of spermicidal GELS, Cremes, Foams, sponges, diaphragms and such for roughly $10/month. . .or just go to Planned Parenthood for FREE CONDOMS. . .also available for FREE at any college dispensary, also available for FREE at any Ciunty or city Health Clinic? WHY must WE be FORCED to PAY for PREMIUM Contraception when it is ONLY the CHOICE of these supposedly educated young and Not-so-young ladies?

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  • John Decker

    Damn, she looks good for 30!

    Maybe that’s because she’s not.

  • John Decker

    There are some seriously sick people here. I enjoy the legitimate remarks, but they are so few and far between. The rest are foaming-at-the-mouth knuckleheads. I get it — I’d be furious too if my party had been reduced to a choice between Romney and Santorum. Jesus, just forfeit the freaking election already and find an iota of dignity in the GOP again.

    Romney.

    Santorum.

    LOL.

  • John Decker

    btw, here’s the transcript of the Lauer interview. From a conservative media site.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2012/03/02/nbc-brings-sandra-fluke-blast-limbaugh-rights-deafening-silence-denoun

    Please show me where it says Sandra Fluke is 30.

  • Jeff

    I researched condoms for about 30 seconds and found that online you can buy 1000 condoms for $123.00. This should last her a couple years I would think??? That’s only 12.3 cents per trick. That’s quite a profit if each guy spends $10-$30 per meal.

  • Jeff

    John….. Typical….. Attack the messenger and not the message.

    “There are some seriously sick people here. I enjoy the legitimate remarks, but they are so few and far between. The rest are foaming-at-the-mouth knuckleheads.”

    REALLY??? Ms. Fluke admitted she specifically went after THAT law school because their insurance ‘did not’ cover contraceptives. I am not trying to confuse you with facts but maybe you should look at the facts rather than pick out one tiny discrepancy to attack with.

    As far as the GOP selections for running against Obama, we could run Jesus Christ himself and the MSM and the left would drum up 100 women to bring him down.

    The left believes in legislating their beliefs on the American people whereas the right believes in freedom. A perfect example is second hand smoke. Don’t you think the Business owner has the right to determine how to run their business. If they want to allow smoking in their establishment, that it is their business not the responsibility of government? Non-smokers have the right to chose whether they want to come into that establishment or not!!!

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  • john

    i have this feeling she just wants attention (apparently she never had any use for birth control and i cant blame any one for not giving her a reason to use it) and we are stupid enough to give it to her

  • john

    if you get my meaning

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  • MADgirl91

    Well, I see liberal Paul checked out of the conversation after comment #581. Legal argument trumps everything.

    BTW–all this will get sidelined once the Obama Harvard tapes start dripping out. Thank you, Andrew. Taking down Obama and the complicit media in one brilliant stroke. Once America sees who Obama really is via words coming out of his own mouth, the R’s could run a ham sandwich and it would win.

  • Terry Smith

    Rush is turning into a traditional republican. He apologized when he shouldn’t. She really is a whore.

  • Valerie

    Aww, c’mon, guys, give the woman some credit for her creative approach to resume-building. That really is what this is all about. She SAID she chose that law school for the purpose of picking a fight with the administration, and she did. She gave Johh F’n Kerry style “testimony” that was not testimony, but a publicity stunt after she was denied in her attempt to speak to Congress.

    This will serve her better than getting on the Law Journal.

    Of course, no ethical lawyer will want to get within 10 feet of her, but in the circles she will infest, that won’t matter.

  • How STUPID are you people? OMG, like a 30 year old has never gone to law school. Wow. Just wow…

  • Militant Conservative

    Fluke= CAN’T UNDERSTAND NORMAL THINKING.

    Just a wench looking for a free 8uck.

    pretty pathetic if you ask me.

    kind face though.

  • Valerie

    #610 March 4, 2012 at 12:59 pm
    ToonForever commented:

    I did. And I paid for it, myself. I can guarangoddamtee you the cost of my pills was the least of my concerns.

  • gg

    NEWS FLASH!! People of ALL ages are allowed to attend college. As for Rush Limbaugh, what
    kind of “conservative” would want this woman to video tape her sexual encounters so he can
    watch? That’s not funny Rush. It’s sick!

  • JPL17

    #592 March 3, 2012 at 11:28 pm
    John Decker commented:

    Damn, she looks good for 30!

    Dude, you seriously need your eyes examined.

  • JPL17

    #593 March 3, 2012 at 11:31 pm
    John Decker commented:

    I’d be furious too if my party had been reduced to a choice between Romney and Santorum. Jesus, just forfeit the freaking election already and find an iota of dignity in the GOP again.

    Romney.

    Santorum.

    LOL.

    Laugh while you can, numb nuts. A majority of voters don’t care who the Republicans nominate. They’ll vote for Bozo the Clown over the criminal currently occupying the White House.

  • MJ McNulty

    @610–No one is saying Sandra Fluke shouldn’t have been allowed to go to law school. She is perfectly entitled to enroll in the school of her choice for whatever reason. But she was NOT the naive victim of an “unfair policy” the Democrats and the media have attempted to portray her as. She clearly knew the policy of Georgetown beforehand and deliberately enrolled in the University with the express intention of forcing the University to change their policies. You don’t get to play the victim card if you knew exactly what you were getting yourself into.

  • JPL17

    @ # 584, 586, & 607 MADgirl91

    You’re way too kind, MADgirl91, but thank you for your comments. It is funny how Paul responds to reason the same way the Wicked Witch of the West responds to water, isn’t it?

    Keep the faith! We are all Breitbart now.

  • JPL17

    @ #191 Taqiyyotomist

    I’ve seldom seen a more deceived (or deceiving, whichever it may be) person than this Paul character.

    Well said, Taqiy. The word “loathsome” also seems to fit him.

    @ #198 Taqiyyotomist

    Damn right, and excellent question and comment.

    Thank you!

  • SandiK

    I am really getting sick of pregnancy being referred as a disease or illness. It isn’t in any size shape or form. It’s simply human beings way of reproducing. I have given birth to 3 sons and while I was pregnant, I wasn’t sick. I was simply pregnant.
    As for Paul, he’s simply a koolaid swilling liberal. Go ahead and take all legally obtained guns away from law abiding citizens. Then we sit back and watch the crime rate go though the roof as the criminals and law enforcement are the only ones with guns. It’ll be like lambs to the slaughter. I will never understand libbys. They are just positive that when my gun is taken from me, the criminals, who by definition, don’t obey the laws already on the books, are going to suddenly just turn their guns in and stop being criminals. Sorry Charlie, ain’t nobody out there gonna take my gun from me. Where I go, it goes. I have the Constitutional right to defend myself. You do know, don’t you, that the police are not required to protect you in any way, don’t you?
    If I hear one more time that Republicans want to keep women from having access to birth control, I may scream! Seriously, all women have access NOW. If you’re poor, apply for medicaid. I don’t think ANY insurance company should be required to cover BC. It is preventative in nature and doesn’t even prevent an illness or disease. It just prevents what the left considers an inconvenience. This whole argument is just crazy stupid and it’s just one more sign of our government totally out of control.

  • MADgirl91

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltTd81XpDnc&feature=youtu.be

    A sermon by a priest today explains why Obama and the Dems are so intent on the BC/abortion issue: to put Catholic schools, hospitals, orphanages and social services out of business. So they can be replaced by government run. He also says Obama assured the bishops the conscience clause would be respected in Obamacare. He Lied. What A Surprise.

    Look for massive protests in DC this summer: Million Christian March, Cardinal Dolan delivering a “I have a dream” speech on the mall. Go ahead, Obama, arrest the priests and nuns.

  • Joseph Desonia

    Money spent on woman!!!!! Shouldn’t it all go to rich white men!!!!!

  • Nicola Timmerman

    I live in Canada but I have decided to subscribe to Rush’s radio programme. Can’t believe how he is being tarred and feathered for daring to describe this woman as promiscuous. This ‘lady’ painted herself as such and then is insulted.

    The media here in Canada and what I have followed on Sunday American political shows is so biased.

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  • Jim Fritz

    Since I am paying for her contraception. When she has sex I want to watch.

  • Jim Fritz

    Long live Rush limbaugh!!! By the way, Rush was right.

  • richard

    The premise of this article is that Fluke was born 30 years ago, became an activist, and attended law school just so she could be used by Democrats in a conspiracy to make Republicans look like misogynous chauvinistic pigs

  • michaelle

    Again, this is trampling on religious freedom because I will most likely be supporting fornicator(s) to have free birth control.

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  • David

    Who reported that she was 23 and why is that important?

  • David

    WOW Dave Wallce, I can’t believe you asked that question. What difference does it make if she is a lesbian? Well lesbian sex cannot cause a pregnancy so why would a lesbian want to get birth control from her insurance plan? It is vitally important, do you think lesbians should be able to get birth control even if they do not use it?

  • eric

    Yes, maybe it was a liberal plot to disguise a 30 year old law student as a law student whose age was not mentioned… or maybe it was Rush Limbaugh trying to pass her off as an ingenue instead of an educated adult through use of the demeaning, dismissively porn-evoking term “co-ed”?

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  • Godrevy Point

    NEWSFLASH: some people need contraceptives NOT because they’re having sex and they don’t want to get pregnant, but because they have very serious reproductive health issues completely unrelated to having or not having sex, and these medical issues are best treated by medicine that is also used as contraception. Case in point: endometriosis, ovarian cysts. I developed an endometrioid cyst the size of a tennis ball at the age of 22 myself. I don’t wish the pain and the suffering on anyone (though someone like Rush would deserve it because of all the evil and cruel things he says.) One treatment method would have involved cutting me open and removing the cyst on the operation table, and even then it could have grown back from even just a trace amount of remaining misplaced tissue. The non-invasive option was to take birth control in order to regulate my hormones and stop the endometrioid tissue growing outside my uterus. Thousands, nay, millions of women/people use birth control every day for similar reasons, and all of you calling them whores should be very, very ashamed of yourselves.
    Coverage of birth control does not infringe on anyone’s religious freedom, since the premise on which churches reject birth control in the first place is FALSE. Have some compassion, be considerate of other people’s health.

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  • Tightcloud

    She stated that a woman was being denied basic health care coverage because the PILL is not covered in her policy…

    Well why not just pay for it yourself? I don’t get it….where is the self responsibility?

    You own a car…do you put in a claim for every oil or tire change?

    Why must Insurance companies PAY for everything? The point is they shouldn’t because if they do it just drives up the cost for everyone else.

    This woman Ms. Fluke is a FRAUD….

    you have been hoodwinked, Played and Bamboozled. what a shame that so many Americans did not do their research on this woman.

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  • fapit1

    I just masturbated to her.

  • Stacy

    The Catholic Church does not have a problem with the use of hormonal treatments not limited to but also including birth control pills in order to treat medical conditions. Please be advised that not all of these treatments prove to be effective ultimately, and do carry with them some risk. Therefore, her seizure disorder example is not valid. I have a question, however; what is a Public Interest Scholarship? Who is funding Ms. Fluke??

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  • Torch

    No one needs to demonize Rush. he’d been doing that for decades on his own. Promoting “their” agenda? Ok, she also believes in women’s rights. Wow, you REALLY caught them on that. I mean who would have figured her for a women’s rights activist since when was speaking out on women’s rights? Do you know what the word Activist means? Do you believe it’s just a word for zealot? Because that’s in the realm of terrorist and maybe if we rewind 200+ years, everyone could assume you might feel that the Tea Party and colonists who opposed colonial rule were terrorists…

  • Robert Geistweit

    With deepest legal refection/ analysis , Piffle !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    EIB, CEO, again best describes the accepted/acknowledged practive of the poor lass.

  • SandiK

    This is what a Public Interest Scholarship is:
    http://www.law.georgetown.edu/pils/

    There is not much difference between what this woman did and what this group did:
    http://www.ihatethemedia.com/texas-farmer-holds-pig-races-next-to-new-mosque

    They would have been much better off putting someone in there under the circumstance that they claimed this woman was under….

  • Frankie

    Whats nice to see is that the extreme right wing people on this site show their TRUE colors….phrases like calling her a slut, a whore….saying she is a skank…saying that activism is wrong, that she is evil for taking a stand in something she believes in….etc. THIS is why the Republicans will lose in November. You people are out of touch with reality and what this country is about. The Tea Party has shot the Republicans Party chances of winning. And when you lose…hold your heads down in shame for the way you have treated others who disagree with you during this time. For truly I see Tea party members as having no class, no honor, no respect for others and truly no patriotism. For loving this country is more than just wrapping yourself in the flag…its showing respect for others and fighting for justice. So continue your vile hatred….continue showing that you have no class or dignity…continue your push to extremeism. The independants of this nation who has ALWAYS swung the elections see your true colors….and we will vote against it.

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  • SandiK

    When you read comments from an article, there is no way of knowing the party affiliation of the person responding. And since ‘slut’ was the nicest thing they called Sarah Palin, it smacks of a leftist attack. And you have NO CLUE about the Tea Party other than what all the leftist sights have told you so it’s pretty obvious YOU are not an independent. Just another leftist poser.

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