Disgusting! Obama Administration Approves Using Aborted Fetal Brains in Lab Experimentation


(Steady Health)

In 2008 Obama told Pastor Rick Warren during the presidential campaign that he wasn’t sure at what point a baby gets human rights. It was above his paygrade.

But that was before Americans went to vote.
A funny thing happened after the election.
Obama suddenly figured it out.

In 2009, Barack Obama has signed several pieces of abortion legislation including funding foreign abortions. He also signed legislation to use taxpayer money to kill embryos in research. And, democrats are pushing legislation that will force healthcare providers to perform abortions even if it violates their moral or religious convictions.

Barack Obama is the most radical pro-abortion and infanticide president in the last 35 years. Barack Obama even voted 4 times to support infanticide during his political career.

But, that didn’t stop Barack Obama from promising Pope Benedict in 2009 that he would reduce abortions. That was another lie.

Now this…
The Obama Administration has approved the use of fetal brains in laboratory experimentation.
LifeNews reported:

Scott Fischbach, the director of Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life uncovered the information showing a clinical trial approved by the Food and Drug Administration uses brain tissue from aborted unborn babies to treat macular degeneration. StemCells Inc. will inject fetal brain stem cells into the eyes of up to 16 patients to study the cells’ effect on vision.

In its press release announcing the clinical trial, StemCells Inc. was careful to refer to the fetal brain material as “purified human neural stem cell product” or HuCNS-SC cells, rather than “fresh human fetal brain tissue,” a description which can be found elsewhere on its website.

“StemCells Inc. is not using embryonic stem cells. A five-day-old human being at the embryonic stage does not have a brain, but a fetus at 10 or 20 weeks of development with visible fingers, toes and ears has a functioning brain,” said Fischbach. “Developing human beings in the womb are treated simply as raw material for laboratory experimentation by StemCells Inc. and other companies seeking to monetize aborted unborn children.”

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  • http://www.opaobie.com Opaobie

    Barack Obama is the most radical pro-abortion and infanticide president in the last 35 years EVER….FIFY.

  • Adi

    An aborted fetus has more brain activity than The Wohn and His Queen.

  • Limousine Barry

    Hey! don’t knock it. I could use a new brain. Mine is toasted from coke and smoke. Good day.

  • Path

    Sick – sick – sick. NO respect for life – or, now that I think about it, for truth, for standards, for values, for Americans.

  • P. Aaron

    Being a compassionate human being and president is above Obama’s pay grade.

  • ExExZonie

    Is there anything too low for this administration to stoop to?

  • Kate

    This makes me truly ill. The depths of depravity of this administration is astounding. Our country can’t survive 4 more years of him.

  • Freddie Sykes

    Remember, in case you did not follow the links, as a State Senator, Obama often voted present to avoid decisions. One of the few times he actually lead a fight was against a bill that said that a baby which survived an abortion attempt was eligible for medical treatment if viable. He claimed that the call should be made by the botched abortionist, the one who had been paid good money to produce a dead baby – not a fetus since part of the process that when wrong depended on inducing labor and a fetus graduates to baby once external to the mother – and who might now be facing a “wrongful birth” (sic) lawsuit..

  • StrangernFiction

    “I think [Obama] is great.” — Matt Romney

  • kathteach

    As people who have no knowledge of the Catholic Church try to exploit their resistance to being forced to pay for contraceptives stay on their Democratic Party inspired campaign to get Obama re-elected…….we have to stop and take a very clear look at why the Catholic position is rooted in a careful reasoning of the ages.
    Catholic dogma has been clear all along. Humans have sex to procreate and renew the human species. When a socially constructed culture imagines they can interfere with that biologically rooted fact, they are imagining they can be greater than God. They imagine they can stop pregnancies with a technology ( a drug).
    When that doesn’t work, these technologically inspired humans go a step further. They imagine they can terminate created life in the womb because they argue it is not yet viable or able to survive on its own.
    Now empowered by the ability to control human reproduction, these technocrats of human life start to create clones or humans that can grow at will and become humans. They start to examine fetuses that are deformed and encourage mothers to abort the “weak”. They then have no q\moral qualms about farming out aborted fetuses to serve humanity with their cells.
    Where does it stop? When will it end? The Catholic Church long ago though this thing through. They saw how deficient fetuses would be aborted. They saw how the poor who can’t afford more children would be exploited. They saw how aborted fetuses could be used in medicine. They saw all along the way the line can never be drawn about one real true thing – sex is for species’ procreation and not just for the pleasure it offers folks – and animals – who engage.
    Thank goodness for the good old Catholic Church. They saw this coming and they are the ONLY institution on earth who has remained firm. Sex is for the procreation of our animal species. Yes – we are human mammals. Somebody has to say it.
    .

  • Texas_Treeroach

    Here’s all you need to start with:

    Obama – Temporarily Alive Fetus
    Obama – Gosnell serial infanticide case
    Obama – Cook County Hospital
    Obama – Born-Alive Infants Protection Act (BAIPA)
    Obama – 1997 – Illinois Senate Bill (SB) 230

    After that, you’re on a whirl-wind ride with the Murder-in-Chief.
    Heads Up: You’re gonna’ get sick.

  • Texas_Treeroach

    Sorry for the above.
    I don’t want to misunderstood.
    I meant: Murderer-in-Chief.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    The link made me think of Bad Blue. (see Blogroll in right hand column.) They link to LifeNews quite a bit.

    Jim, I know you’re trying to be impartial with your blogroll, but I think Bad Blue needs higher billing, if not a full-size banner — and any others that link to GP often, as well. You’re on Bad Blue a few times a day.

    — Oh, and this is disgusting, and entirely predictable. And it’s all been predicted.

    Sinclair Lewis, It Can’t Happen Here, 1935
    George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four, 1949
    Todd Strasser, The Wave, 1981
    Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, 1932

    Oh, and…

    God, The Holy Bible, c. 4000 B.C. — c. 48 A.D.

  • Joe College

    He lied to the Pope. Now that is vintage Obama.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    #15

    Indeed. Who the hell would lie to the Pope himself, in all of history? Strange days indeed.

    Most mass-murderers wouldn’t lie to the Pope. O.J. would confess to the Pope.

    But Obama? He’d send the Pope out the garbage door, after lying to him.

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  • http://biggovernment.com proudredneck

    Real stomach turn-er must say, no respect for life at all….Obama ‘s radical science czar John Holden who once wrote a book in 1977 about the need for a ‘Plantary Regrime’which would regulate every aspect of human reproduction,including the issuing of ‘Childless Liences’ to mothers in order for them to have no children.Next will come force sterlization, if these radicals allowed to have their way …….this why Odummer must go……

  • Alana

    I’d rather have macular degeneration.

  • sablegsd

    And Jesus wept.
    And people wonder why I am continually saying obama is an evil man.

  • SpideyTerry

    Why bother? We already have the equivalent of an aborted fetal brain experiment in progress. So far, he’s done a really crappy job as president.

  • Oh Noes!

    What have we become as a Nation and why are we allowing this, where are We The People that needs to go to Washington and call out there murderous vermints and when election time comes in November we need to know where that congressman or senator stands on this. God help us, for we have innocent blood on our hands.

  • Yrral Dleifsarb

    It’s funny, in a dreadful way, how well the leftists are demonstrating the moral slide that occurs when “situational ethics” is taken to its natural (non-existent) extreme. There is no real limit, beyond what their emotions and conjured-at-will self-regard permit. We let them have power at our peril.

  • RCCA

    So Catholics never have sex unless they are trying to get pregnant, and if not, they are supposed to feel guilty about it? That’s a heavy burden. No wonder Catholics are so messed up about sex. I never understood why my Catholic friends were so messed up about sex, but now I do. Thanks.

    “fresh human fetal brain tissue” — At 10 weeks you are talking about an embryo about an inch in diameter, so the amount of human fetal brain tissue is probably less than 3-4 mm. or the size of this dash — . You’d have to look under a microscope to actually see it. Makes more rational sense to refer to brain cells at that stage than functioning brains, etc. Not trying to offend anyone’s religious beliefs, but try to be at least somewhat rational about medical science? After all, the doctors are trying to help people, that’s you and me, who are going to become blind.

  • Alana

    Human fetal brains (FBr) were obtained from Advance
    Bioscience Resources, in accordance with all state and federal
    guidelines. FBr tissue was minced and then dissociated enzymatically
    in a solution containing 0.1% collagenase (Roche) and
    0.1% hyaluronidase (Sigma, St. Louis, MO) at 37°C for 1 hr.
    The cells were further treated with 0.05% trypsin-0.53 mM
    EDTA (Gibco, Grand Island, NY) for 10–15 min to obtain a
    single-cell suspension for mAb staining and cell sorting for
    CNS-SC isolation. Typically 1–10  108 cells were obtained
    from each FBr tissue of 16–20 gestational weeks.

    From that “listed elsewhere on their website,” from an article called, “Engraftment of Sorted/Expanded Human
    Central Nervous System Stem Cells From
    Fetal Brain”

    I think I am going to be sick.

  • Gini

    This is absolutely disgusting and so evil that words fail. And Obama calls himself a Christian?

  • valerie

    Just a word of caution, here. The medical term when a woman involuntarily loses a pregnancy before a certain date is “abortion.” It would be worthwhile to ask the question whether the abortions that supplied these cells were spontaneous or induced.

  • Alana

    RCAA, do something about your abysmal ignorance! It is so easily fixed! Look up 10-week fetus on google images!

    Then look up 16-20 gestational weeks, while you are at it, since that is what the study says they use.

    And speaking of blind – you are not going to become blind, you already are. And willfully so.

  • Alana

    Valerie, the LifeNews article says:

    “The lab has been sponsored by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) for over four decades, according to a report in WORLD Magazine. The Puget Sound Business Journal stated that the lab “in 2009 filled more than 4,400 requests for fetal tissue and cell lines.” WORLD reports that the Seattle facility has retrieved the products of 22,000 pregnancies to date; the lab collects aborted fetuses from abortion centers across the country.”

  • Taqiyyotomist

    valerie, good point.

    RCCA, you have no idea worth considering, concerning life and its inception. Really. none.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    valerie — nevermind.

    It was still a good point, if we didn’t know what …

    …Alana just posted.

    —-

    This is GOD-AWFUL.

  • Alana

    I wonder what women getting abortions would think if they knew this was where their unborn were going to go, and how they would be used.

    I bet they have them sign some sort of paper, but that it gives them no idea, really.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    And I’ve tried to research it, but have come up with nothing, despite my VERY F*&KING STRONG HUNCH that aborted fetuses have LONG, LONG, LONG been used in the cosmetics industry.

    For the collagen, mainly, but also other “valuable” commodities.

    It’s a multi-billion dollar-a-year industry. I still have this hunch, despite no real proof.

    My hunches are 98% accurate.

    Kinda like Rushbo. Must be that “on loan from God” thing.

  • Texas_Treeroach

    #24 RCCA – Your comments obviously haven’t gone un-noticed:

    I have never known any Catholics who “were messed up about sex”; maybe your Catholic friends are just messed up (understandable, via your context).

    It’s interesting to read your explanation of a 10-week human fetal brain. Do you remember those days? Me either. But we’re sure glad they happened. Yes?

    Rest assured; you are not offensive; but rather enlightening. Your position and mindset is what must be overcome in order to regain “a human dignity, lost.” The rest of us are not blind to the challenge.

    Thanks for reminding us.

  • sharon

    I say shame on Rick Warren for giving this clown a stage to lie upon. Warren needs to toughen up instead of playing the “I love everyone” card. How does this “love” look now Warren?

  • Taqiyyotomist

    What, like they’re gonna throw it away??!

    When they could USE IT to make $ CASH MONEY $ ??!

    Yeah, right.

  • valerie

    #24 March 17, 2012 at 7:46 pm
    RCCA commented:

    You can set up a straw man, if you like. But the ethical problem, namely the potential creation of a market in human body parts, exists, and is acute where an elective abortion is used to produce those parts. If you want to be helpful, you can look up, cite and summarize the Federal and State guidelines say about trafficking in human body parts.

  • Joanne

    How about just calling it what it is – baby brains! The fish rots from the head down, and all will suffer for the massacre of the unborn. Obama is beyond evil.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    I’ve long thought, despite no evidence, that aborted fetus-gleaned “material” has, for quite some time, been used as “the fountain of youth” which is the “Holy Grail” of the cosmetics industry.

    I don’t know why; it’s just been a hunch. Not based on nothing, but on a knowledge of and recognition of evil and its capabilities and tendencies.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Joanne, the only way, I guess, you can get “beyond evil”, is to embrace evil.

    And that’s more than half our country.

    We are Abraham in Sodom.

  • Joanne

    RCCA – the difference is I don’t want to be helped if it means murdering the unborn. Only those without a conscience would want to benefit from the killing of the innocent unborn without a voice.

  • valerie

    #31 March 17, 2012 at 8:03 pm
    Taqiyyotomist commented:

    I read the paragraph Alana cited, too, but the pertinent question has to do with the Federal and State guidelines. Use of adult human tissue, much less fetal tissue resulting from induced abortions, has been a sensitive subject for decades.

  • bg

    ++

    “If the upper class is able to give it’s children, grandchildren more and more
    genetic advantages, they will move away form the people who are naturally
    born..”
    Lee Silver

    Our Totalitarian Eugenicist-in-Chief

    [To put the point even more directly, Obama does not want the Catholic
    poor to procreate. Like Planned Parenthood’s twisted foundress, Margaret
    Sanger, Obama is a chilly eugenicist at heart who fears a backwards
    America “punished” by the babies of unenlightened breeders. . . .
    ]

    Eugenics and Bioethics

    more here, and here, in connecting links, and threads..

    ==

  • valerie

    #39 March 17, 2012 at 8:13 pm
    Taqiyyotomist commented:

    Nah. There are too many competing alternatives. They have been able to use immortal stem cell lines to produce a variety of cellular growth factors (essentially by siphoning off the culture medium), but you can get better results with hormone replacement therapy, at a much better price.

    The real beauty of stem cells is that people produce them throughout their lives, even brain stem cells, even into very old age. And if you use your own stem cells, nobody gets hurt, ever. So far the real difficulty is isolating enough of them, and getting the skill to culture and expand them, that is, to multiply them in a form that is flexible enough to form the needed multiple classes of cells, genetically compatible with the patient, and in enough volume to accomplish something useful.

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  • bg
  • bg

    ++

    Earth to RCCA #24 March 17, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    it’s not just “Catholics”..

    ==

  • lizzy84

    God help us…
    Obama Agency Rules Pepsi Use of Cells Derived From Aborted Fetus ‘Ordinary Business’
    http://www.usanewsfirst.com/2012/03/05/obama-agency-rules-pepsi-use-of-cells-derived-from-aborted-fetus-%E2%80%98ordinary-business%E2%80%99/

    I’m completely sick at heart.

  • bg

    ++

    BHO:

    PRO

    CON

    ==

  • Dusty

    Stomach churning procedure given by the lowest form of human president we have ever had. He absolutely has NO conscience whatsoever! Sad,sad,sad. poor babies.

  • bg

    ++

    Obama is NOT ALONE.. gah!!

    ==

  • Redwine

    OT, but important and very WTF.
    Comrade Dear Leader Barry Hussein signed an EO in a total power grab.
    Always watch the other hand.

    Posted on Ann Barnhardt’s blog, she wrote> This executive order, published on the White House website yesterday, gives the Obama regime power to take over . . . pretty much EVERYTHING, including agriculture, labor, energy, transportation (both interstate and intrastate) and commerce IN PEACETIME and NON-EMERGENCY conditions.

    Executive Order — National Defense Resources Preparedness
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

  • bg

    ++

    eh, it’s just a “conspiracy”.. *sigh*

    yes, they have “conspired” to do exactly what they’re doing.. or do you
    believe all this “fundamental change” stuff is happening fast & furiously
    because they’re doing it on the fly?? /s/

    ==

  • http://biggovernment.com ponderon

    52# Redwine glad you posted that link,people need to be aware of what this marxist regime is up to and its complete control of everything by excutive order….

  • lizzy84

    From a commenter @ The Holler comes this…
    One of the most touching photos I’ve ever seen and a great story…via Barnhardt
    http://blogs.lotterypost.com/rdgrnr/2012/3/under-obamacare-he-would-have-been-killed.htm

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  • Taqiyyotomist

    Redwine that comment is threadworthy.

    OMG.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Jim you gotta see that executive order, signed by the President 2 days ago.

    Holy crap.

  • Economan

    If the devil had a sock puppet, it would be Obama.

  • http://www.southernwolf.net S. Wolf

    Taqiyyotomist #58

    re Holy crap

    Yup. I read the thing and what I gathered is that Hussein claims the power to confiscate and appropriate anything and everything deemed necessary for ‘national defense’, except that the nation he intends defending is not the United States but the new nation he and the left are founding here. The U.S. has the privilege of providing everything the new nation needs, and if we don’t like it force will be used to separate we the peeps from our resources. The order asserts that all private property is at the behest of the federal government to use in any way it pleases, or just because it pleases, so a lot of conservative TEA party Americans who have ‘needed’ resources may lose their homes and businesses. All for the greater glory of the infiltrator in the WH and the nation he believes he is founding… now we know why there are so many czars.

  • http://www.southernwolf.net S. Wolf

    re #60

    ‘Before the vote, Hitler made a speech in which he pledged to use restraint.

    “The government will make use of these powers only insofar as they are essential for carrying out vitally necessary measures…The number of cases in which an internal necessity exists for having recourse to such a law is in itself a limited one,” Hitler told the Reichstag.

    He also promised an end to unemployment and pledged to promote peace with France, Great Britain and Soviet Russia. But in order to do all this, Hitler said, he first needed the Enabling Act. A two-thirds majority was needed, since the law would actually alter the constitution. Hitler needed 31 non-Nazi votes to pass it. He got those votes from the Catholic Center Party after making a false promise to restore some basic rights already taken away by decree.

    Meanwhile, Nazi storm troopers chanted outside: “Full powers – or else! We want the bill – or fire and murder!!”‘

    Hitler Becomes Dictator

    Sounds familiar. Catholics supported Hussein Obama only to be betrayed with the contraception mandate.. and all the while the Hussein cultists threaten violence.

  • http://www.southernwolf.net S. Wolf

    re #61

    ‘As discussed in Part I of “For the Time Is at Hand,” America is on the verge of becoming a government-controlled socialistic/fascist nation, unless some leaders who actually love America are elected and appointed to political offices. Seven examples related to this trend toward socialism/fascism were discussed. Now, let’s consider some other ways that the government has attemped to turn America into a socialistic/fascist nation. The next five are as follows:

    1. Government Adoption of George Orwellian Ideology

    2. Attempting to Force Religions to Bow to Government Demands

    3. Too Much Government Involvement in Daily Lives of Americans

    4. Taxed into Serfdom

    5. The Government Turning Its Back on Israel’

    FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND
    PART 2

  • RCCA

    Some of the insulting remarks here make me a little sick,
    after all, I am a living human being. Does that not matter?
    I guess not, if someone has a different opinion.

    I stand by my previous statements. And here are my sources:
    fetus at 10 weeks http://youtu.be/2iZ2RZtEMWg

    About 10 to 20 percent of known pregnancies end in miscarriage, and more than 80 percent of these losses happen before 12 weeks.
    This doesn’t include situations in which you lose a fertilized egg before a pregnancy becomes established. Studies have found that 30 to 50 percent of fertilized eggs are lost before or during the process of implantation – often so early that a woman goes on to get her period at about the expected time.
    http://www.babycenter.com/0_understanding-miscarriage_252.bc

    These are just scientific facts.

    I wasn’t making comments here about life and inception, simply that children and babies are not instantly fully formed little human beings. Stating that fact doesn’t minimize my reverence for life or my love of the Creator. Science doesn’t have to be seen as the enemy of religion, at least I don’t see it that way.

  • Alana

    First, RCAA, your video source says just what I have been saying.

    Second, this issue isn’t about miscarriages, let alone fertilized eggs that never managed implantation.

  • Tana

    Oh God I weep, for all the unborn children who cry silently.
    Oh God, I weep for a nation so lost from God, we cannot see.
    What have we done. We kill our young.
    Oh God I weep.

  • YourMaster

    0bama wants all the American children replaced with arab children
    so he can have gay sex with them, then he can worship Allah openly instead of secretly.

  • Sherry

    I don’t like abortion, but….Too bad Obama wasn’t aborted

  • oldguy

    Black Mengele.

  • bobdog

    It will soon be announced that they’re experimenting with the idea of using aborted fetuses as a fuel source. To lessen our dependence on foreign oil and stuff.

  • Patty

    “The Orthodox Church has a definite, formal, and intended attitude toward abortion. It condemns all procedures purporting to abort the embryo or fetus, whether by surgical or medical means. The Orthodox Church brands abortion as murder, that is, the premeditated termination of the life of a human being. Decisions of the Supreme Court and State Legislatures by which abortion is allowed, with or without restrictions, should be viewed by practicing Christians as an affront to their beliefs in the sanctity of life.”

    It is important to note in all this that the point at which the baby can live outside his mother (“viability”) is utterly irrelevant. A human embryo may be totally dependent on his mother for nutrition and protection, but he is still a person.

    St. Basil the Great repeatedly affirmed,”Those who give potions for the destruction of the child conceived in the womb are murderers … The hairsplitting difference between formed and unformed makes no difference to us. A woman who deliberately destroys a fetus is answerable for murder.”

    “Abortion is a precipitation of murder, nor does it matter whether or not one takes a life when formed, or drives it away when forming,” and he simply and clearly states, “We acknowledge that life begins with conception.”

    Others, including President Bush, agree that killing humans for experimentation is wrong, but feel it should be allowed on embryos “already slated to die,” such as victims of abortion or “spare” human embryos frozen in fertility clinics. This is faulty thinking, since two wrongs don’t make a right. In cases of abortion, it is wrong to benefit from an immoral act.

    http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/articles/ethics/hodges_stem_cell_research.htm

    More @link.

  • lizzy84

    @Redwine/#52

    thanks for the link.
    a bit more insight here on that EO oBama issued from vangrungy @WZIP:
    “… It’s all about Obamacare:

    Executive Order — National Defense Resources Preparedness

    PART II – PRIORITIES AND ALLOCATIONS

    Sec. 201. Priorities and Allocations Authorities. (a) The authority of the President conferred by section 101 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2071, to require acceptance and priority performance of contracts or orders (other than contracts of employment) to promote the national defense over performance of any other contracts or orders, and to allocate materials, services, and facilities as deemed necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense, is delegated to the following agency heads:

    (3) the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to health resources;

    ==========================================

    Authorization for the Obamacare monstrosity to takeover the healthcare system completely.. Now the Supremes will be forced to decide that Obamacare is Constitutional because Obama has made HHS essential to the defense of the nation.

    There is precedent for this sort of Commerce Clause hammering of the Constitution..

    Wickard v. Filburn 1942

    That decision was made during war at a time when no Justice would want to be seen as interfering with America’s ability to wage Total War..

    Obama has just made Obamacare and it’s HHS ‘necessary’ for the defense of the nation.
    http://www.fema.gov/library/viewRecord.do?id=3590
    The Defense Production Act of 1950, as Amended (50 U.S.C. App. 2061 et seq.)

    You won’t find the HHS listed in this Act that Obama’s executive order amends.”

  • Patty

    The Right to Life in Michigan

    If they say. . .

    Isn’t it a prolife position to support all stem cell research and help people who are living?

    You say. . .

    The problem is that one form of stem cell research, embryonic stem cell research, requires living human embryos to be killed for their stem cells. It is not prolife to kill one group of human beings in the hope of treating or curing another group of human beings. The prolife position recognizes that every innocent human life regardless of size, strength and location is valuable and deserving of protection.

    If they say. . .

    All of these embryos will just be destroyed anyway, so why not use them to help people now?

    You say…

    If they say. . .

    Embryonic stem cells have the greatest potential to cure a variety of diseases.

    You say. . .

    http://www.rtl.org/prolife_issues/iftheysay_stemcell.html

    answers and more on this link

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    “Scientists’ stem cell breakthrough ends ethical dilemma

    Experts in Britain and Canada find way to make stem cells without destroying embryos”

    Josephine Quintavalle from the lobby group Comment on Reproductive Ethics, which opposes embryonic stem cell research, said: “What we’ve got here is something that will bring joy to the pro-life movement, a way of obtaining embryonic-type stem cells without having to destroy human embryos.

    “There are some scientists who like to hold on to what they’ve got, but I don’t think people are going to waste time on embryonic stem cells any more. Half of Europe is opposed to embryonic stem cell research. Ideally you want something that everybody can use without any problems. This is definitely a very, very promising way forward and a very promising solution to the embryonic stem cell battle.”

    It would be some time before the cells could be used in patients, Wilmut said, because scientists have yet to find reliable ways of making different tissues from stem cells.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/mar/01/stem-cells-breakthrough

    Much more at the above link.

    Obama and his administration has cause outcry from those with great ethics and religious organizations beyond any other administration, Contraceptive issue and partial birth abortions issue and now this issue.

    Why doesn’t this administration research other ways and those who know and stop alienation of those of us who have morals and believe in the rights of the unborn.

    Controversies aren’t something this Obama needs because he has failures abound that truly speak to is already radical opinions for our nation.

  • bg

    ++

    ObamaShariiaCare

    ==

  • Patty

    ‘Chimera’ monkeys created in lab by combining several embryos into one

    Robin Lovell-Badge, head of genetics at the National Institute for Medical Research in London, said there has been a suspicion that most human and monkey embryonic stem cell lines are different.

    “This work supports this notion, as the macaque embryonic stem cells tested were unable to mix in with cells of the host embryos. This may be reassuring to those who worry that human embryonic stem cells could be used to make chimeric people, although in itself this should not be a concern, as such rare individuals already exist from the spontaneous merger of two early embryos. But it may be a concern for regenerative medicine if such cells are not as flexible as hoped,” he said.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jan/05/chimera-monkeys-combining-several-embryos

  • The Elector of Saxony

    “I wasn’t making comments here about life and inception, simply that children and babies are not instantly fully formed little human beings. Stating that fact doesn’t minimize my reverence for life or my love of the Creator.”

    But you are making comments about Life and inception. If you support a woman’s right to have a physician destroy the Human Life within her, you have no reverence for Life. How can you love your Creator and wish to see His creations torn apart in utero? Human Life is either sacred from the moment of conception, or it is never sacred. There’s no dividing line that God ever recognized. In fact He says He knew us before He formed us in the womb!

    Historically, the Left has taken a mechanistic, materialist view of Human Life. This is how they have justified the killing fields, the death camps, the Holocaust(s), the purges, Siberia, re-education camps, etc. They don’t capitalize the word “Life”. Humans are things to be dealt with, to be used by the State, to be exterminated at will. If you believe that the fetus can be exterminated, why not the unwanted or defective child? (Hmm. See the recent Australian article written by some “bioethicists” that make that exact argument!) Where did they get the idea? From abortion. If you can kill the child in the womb, why not outside the womb as well? Read Peter Singer’s execrable ideas on euthanizing the mentally and physically handicapped. Guess where he got the idea? Abortion. If Life isn’t sacred every moment, it is NEVER sacred. Stop lying to yourself.

  • Kissmygrits

    Just when you thought Obama had hit rock bottom with his push to provide abortions even the killing of those aborted but lived, StemCellsInc comes along and tops it. They want to monetize unborn children cells which I’m sure will earn them a reserved seat in the lake of fire. Do the people who work there go home at night and hug their children? I do not want this funded by taxpayer money or have it hanging around my neck.

  • http://www.southernwolf.net S. Wolf

    RCCA #63

    re I am a living human being

    So are these babies not allowed to be born.

    ‘The description of “late term abortion” is too often thrown about with little actual shared understanding of just what that term represents. While there is no agreed upon medical definition of the term, most research suggests late term as being the termination of a pregnancy 20 weeks or more into a pregnancy – regardless of whether or not the fetus is “viable” – a medical term for a fetus that is in fact a child – a life that can survive outside the womb of its mother. These types of procedures are often called “partial birth” abortions – indicated the baby is in fact born, only to have its life terminated by the doctor. The abortion industry does not easily divulge just how many of these late term procedures are performed each year, but a 1997 study suggests the figure to be several thousand per year in the United States. Here is a brief medical description of the two types of late term abortion procedures:

    So here we now come to the visual evidence of what Barack Obama, as President of the United States, feels so compelled to not only defend, but require of private businesses and religious groups to provide – unlimited access to abortion, regardless of whether or not the child can survive outside the womb of its mother. And in fact, if that child were to survive the procedure, Barack Obama defends the practice of terminating its life, thus making him quite literally, President Baby Killer.’

    Barack Obama – President Baby Killer

    Or these allowed to be born but barely.

    ‘Parents should be allowed to have their newborn babies killed because they are “morally irrelevant” and ending their lives is no different to abortion, a group of medical ethicists linked to Oxford University has argued.

    A group of ethicists has argued that killing young babies is no different from abortion

    The article, entitled “After-birth abortion: Why should the baby live?”, was written by two of Prof Savulescu’s former associates, Alberto Giubilini and Francesca Minerva.’…

    Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say

    How long before ‘enlightened’ people like you begin euthanizing anyone inconvenient to you?

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    S. Wolf #77 March 18, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    “after-birth abortion”

    more here, in connecting links, and threads..

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  • The Elector of Saxony

    “How long before ‘enlightened’ people like you begin euthanizing anyone inconvenient to you?”

    Peter Singer, the founder of the modern “animal rights” movement, and intellectual father of PETA, has been preaching this for decades. This disgusting ideology is tightly woven into the fabric of Western Leftist political thought. Singer believes that newborn and young humans have less value than do mature pigs, dogs, and insects. He has suggested that humans who have low utility should be euthanized. Yeah, one of the heroes of the so-called “liberals” wrote this, not Adolph Hitler. Yes, this man founded an organization that people take seriously…PETA. If you have a friend who gives to PETA, point them to Singer and if they have a conscience, they’ll stop helping PETA the same day.

    When so-called “liberals” talk about abortion, they talk about it with the same gleam in their eyes as every proponent of genocide in history. Funny thing is, I’m pretty sure Hitler would have euthanized Peter Singer for being of low utility. You see, Singer is Jewish and ought to know better. Unfortunately, his devotion to Leftist principles blinds him to the plain fact that he espouses a doctrine which would have made the entire Nazi elite nod with approval.

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    Patty #74 March 18, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    February 12, 2012

    Our Totalitarian Eugenicist-in-Chief

    [ The philanthropists who attended a summit convened on the
    initiative of Bill Gates, the Microsoft co-founder, discussed joining
    forces to overcome political and religious obstacles to change.

    Described as the Good Club by one insider it included David Rockefeller
    Jr, the patriarch of America’s wealthiest dynasty, Warren Buffett and
    George Soros, the financiers, Michael Bloomberg, the mayor of New York,
    and the media moguls Ted Turner and Oprah Winfrey. . . . . The Times
    reports that, according to an attendee, “a consensus emerged that they
    would back a strategy in which population growth would be tackled as a
    potentially disastrous environmental, social and industrial threat.”

    “This is something so nightmarish that everyone in this group
    agreed it needs big-brain answers,” said the guest. “They need
    to be independent of government agencies, which are unable to
    head off the disaster we all see looming.” Bill Gates, it seems,
    exerted a major influence on their decision. “Taking their cue
    from Gates they agreed that overpopulation was a priority,”
    reported the Times.

    And more:

    President Obama’s Global Health Initiative is virtually indistinguishable
    from the identically named GHI launched by the World Economic Forum
    (WEF) in 2002. Of course, most of the Good Club members are regulars
    at the WEF annual gatherings of the rich and super-rich in Davos,
    Switzerland (or other WEF ultra-posh venues), where the Lear and
    Gulfstream jet sets meet to tell the middle classes and working-class
    poor how much they need to sacrifice to fund the Davos group’s latest
    “compassion” projects. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a
    “Strategic Partner” for the WEF’s GHI.

    And more. The Clinton Global Initiative, part of the
    William J. Clinton Foundation, includes its own GHI:

    Launched by former President Bill Clinton in 2005, the Clinton Global
    Initiative (CGI) has already amassed an astounding $57 billion in
    commitments from corporations, foundations, and individuals. Listed
    as “Notable Members” of the Clinton Global Initiative are, among
    others, Bill Gates, George Soros, and Judith Rodin, president of the
    Rockefeller Foundation. Oprah Winfrey, Ted Turner, and Michael
    Bloomberg have been participants in CGI events and donors to CGI
    causes.

    See a pattern here?

    Yet more. Jasper concluded:

    The administration’s Global Health Initiative, the new global ObamaCare,
    is in reality a major effort to launch a new wave of planetary eugenics
    and population control under the guise of mitigating human suffering
    and poverty, promoting “global health,” and saving the environment.

    Reports about the “Billionaire Brigade of Population Control” go back
    even further. Mary Meehan wrote in the January/February 1999 issue
    of Soul (updated in 2001):]

    more here, in connecting links, and threads..

    posting about this & much more for years now, crickets.. :-(

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  • Patty

    US Conference of Catholic Bishops Fights Obama War on Religion

    Finally, this is not a Republican or Democratic, a conservative or liberal issue; it is an American issue.

    So, what’s the issue? The Conference explains that the Obama health care mandate, which requires Catholic employers to provide coverage for their employees that includes contraception, is “a new definition of who we are as people of faith and what constitutes our ministry. The introduction of this unprecedented defining of faith communities and their ministries has precipitated this struggle for religious freedom. Government has no place defining religion and religious ministry.” It is, they continue, “A mandate to act against our teachings … A violation of personal civil rights …” The Conference asked for its adherents to pray for “penance for our leaders and for the complete protection of our First Freedom – religious liberty.”

    Clearly this controversy isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. And the Obama Administration would be wise to consider the religious people they alienate before continuing their obvious war on religion.
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/15/New%20Article

    I beg to defer, this is a referendum on Obama and in November, whether the left wants to believe it or not…OBAMA WILL BE OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.

  • Patty

    http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/DogByte6RER/untitled-10.png

    Here is the new billboard out and about.

    What our the saying, with contraceptives they wouldn’t be here. Hope so. :)

  • Patty

    Obamacare will be overturn. Then I want to see their red faces. The Supreme Court will never uphold mandating Americans to pay for any of this.

    Health reform but Universal Care is where this Obama care is going. It will cost trillions before it is said and done.

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    Patty #82 March 18, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    ROTF 😆 MBO!!

    so true, so true..

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    Patty #83 March 18, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    if & when the SC doesn’t overturn OC, do you think people
    will finally wake up, because i sure as heck don’t.. *sigh*

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  • http://www.southernwolf.net S. Wolf

    bg #78

    from the link…

    ‘The article, published in the Journal of Medical Ethics, says newborn babies are not “actual persons” and do not have a “moral right to life”.’

    Sounds like:

    AN OPEN SECRET

    On July 14, 1933, the German government instituted the “Law for the Prevention of Progeny with Hereditary Diseases.” This law called for the sterilization of all persons who suffered from diseases considered hereditary, including mental illness, learning disabilities, physical deformity, epilepsy, blindness, deafness, and severe alcoholism. With the law’s passage the Third Reich also stepped up its propaganda against the disabled, regularly labeling them “life unworthy of life” or “useless eaters” and highlighting their burden upon society.

    On August 18, 1939, the Reich Ministry of the Interior circulated a decree compelling all physicians, nurses, and midwives to report newborn infants and children under the age of three who showed signs of severe mental or physical disability. At first only infants and toddlers were incorporated in the effort, but eventually juveniles up to 17 years of age were also killed. Conservative estimates suggest that at least 5,000 physically and mentally disabled children were murdered through starvation or lethal overdose of medication.’

    The Elector of Saxony #79

    re When so-called “liberals” talk about abortion, they talk about it with the same gleam in their eyes as every proponent of genocide in history. Funny thing is, I’m pretty sure Hitler would have euthanized Peter Singer for being of low utility

    Indeed. Singer is a useful idiot and would certainly have been liquidated as it were by mein fuhrer.

  • Tim in Cali

    So,the the Regime now considers a baby in the womb,the same as a frog in my biology lab…are we now in 1930’s Germany ?

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    S. Wolf #87 March 18, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    oh yes, everything old is new again..

    more here.. 😥

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  • Earl P. Holt III

    Obama is an Islamic Marxist and a communist party member. His alias is Harrison J. Bounel, a name he has used throughout his life to skip on debts and commit other felonies.

    “Harrison J. Bounel” is listed as an owner and occupant of the Obama’s home at 5046 South Greenwood Ave., in Chicago. That’s the home sold to them for a fraction of its appraised value by mobster Tony Rezko, now cooling his heels in federal prison.

    Needless to say, the Jews’ Media have no interest in any of this, whatsoever…

  • Whatever

    Look if the person wants to take the life of their unborn child then I say why not use what you can salvage especially if it means to help and or save another. You selfish bastards who kill your child simply cause you were to retarded enough not to use a prophylactic ( and if you don’t know what that means your ass shouldn’t be having sex in the first place) then get knocked up and realize you can’t afford for your child for whatever reasons, then I say to hell with you, that kid you didn’t want but yet now want a proper burial for or creamated…shut the f*ck up, I say let the who can do better with what you apparently could not use it. To Finnish I just want to put out there that no where in my context do I make this statement towards those rape victims and their choice on abortions.