Karen Santorum: Rick’s Rise in the Polls Is God’s Will
Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, February 24, 2012, 11:48 AM
Republican presidential candidate, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, joined by his family, addresses the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington, Friday, Feb. 10, 2012. (AP/J. Scott Applewhite)
Rick Santorum’s wife Karen told GBTV on Thursday that her husband’s rise in the polls is due to God’s will.
The Washington Times reported:
The wife of presidential candidate Rick Santorum said Thursday that his rise in the polls is due to God working in mysterious ways.
“I personally think this is God’s will. I think He has us on a path, and I do think there’s a lot more happening than what we’re seeing,” Karen Santorum told Glenn Beck as she and her husband sat for an interview on his Web-based show, GBTV. “Personally I mean I think Rick’s a great guy, and he’s really smart and everything. But I think a lot more is happening than what we can actually see.”
Mrs. Santorum said she initially was reluctant to have him run for the White House — so much so that when Mr. Santorum approached her and asked her to pray about it, he said her initial reaction was that she wouldn’t even pray because “God couldn’t possible want you to do this.”
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Patty commented:
In good times or bad, in that moment of joy or pain, we ask ourselves why things are going so wrong or thankful we are feeling so great. Where do we turn too. A friend, a confidant, I have always turn to God. He is my friend and confidant.
He knows what path in advance we walk on. We need to whether the storms and there is a saying: God gives us no burden we cannot handle.
It takes a great deal of contemplation and discussion with God and your family to run for the highest office in the land. Things will change beyond their imagination. Security, your words, interviews, scrutinized and if you are remarkable and a true honorable president, you could even have a second term.
Their faith is dripping off the Santorum Family and in comparison to Obama family, it seems like night and day. Character does matter but Santorum has a hill to climb after the last debate. Whether he or one of the other 3 becomes our next President, I pray they carry their friend and confidant close to his heart.
Liz commented:
She’s right. God couldn’t possibly want him to do this. God felt the same way about Huckabee, but Huckabee was obedient.
Liz commented:
Santorum is rebellious. And a big spender. And used to be Pro-Choice. I don’t trust him.
MoreLiberty commented:
(sigh) Whatever you have to tell yourself.
StacyH commented:
I appreciate their faith. And I think a good set of morals and a conscience is essentially to being a good leader. However, his “play along to get along” style is exactly why I do not like electing Senators as President. And he revealed just how much that’s ingrained in the way he does business at the debate.
Gary commented:
The reason people shouldn’t say things like this is what will she say when his numbers fall back off (like they did last time). Does she think maybe God is toying with Rick Santorum?
If there is a God, he isn’t proactively picking winners and losers. That much is clear. Otherwise, what was his grand strategy in 2008? Why does he keep letting Pelosi and Reid get re-elected? etc.
Leave God out of it lady.
reliapundit commented:
We elect our presidents; G-d doesn’t chose them.
God doesn’t do a lot for us in our lives: We must brush our own teeth, bathe, dress, toil for our food.
And pick our president’s.
And we bear the consequences of our choices.
Mimi commented:
Has anyone else found out about the lie Romney told in the debate. Yep here it is and you can check Catholic Insider or the Boston Globe.
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2012/02/24/mitt-romney-tells-the-big-lie-on-honoring-religious-conscience/
Mimi commented:
Liz do you support Obama or Romney. You know the ones that tell lies?
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2012/02/24/mitt-romney-tells-the-big-lie-on-honoring-religious-conscience/
Patty commented:
Since the debate and now on Fox, no Santorum for me. I don’t believe him. After what I have said previously, the debates are truly proving weaknesses and the strengths. Santorum may be telling the truth about Romney, Romney torn into him good.
Personally, I don’t like either of these guys.
I don’t think Santorum is up for the job.
Patty commented:
But then there is this: Jeb Bush bashes Republican presidential field for stoking ‘fears’ during the campaign
Jeb Bush slammed the current slate of Republican presidential candidates, saying it was “troubling” that the group was playing to people’s fears.
Bush, the dream candidate of many Republicans unhappy with the current slate of contenders, likely fueled those flames with his criticism of the 2012 field.
“I used to be a conservative, and I watch these debates and…I don’t think I’ve changed,” Bush said during an appearance Thursday, according to reports.
“But it’s a little troubling sometimes when people are appealing to people’s fears and emotion,” he said, “rather than trying to get them to look over the horizon for a broader perspective, and that’s kind of where we are.”
Bush, who made the comments during an audience question-and-answer session in Dallas, said he has “hope” that the tone of the GOP candidate will change before the general election – but he worries that it may be too late.
“I think it’s important for the candidates to recognize though they have to appeal to primary voters, and not turn off independent voters that will be part of a winning coalition,” said the former governor of Florida, according to reports.
Bush, the younger brother of George W. Bush, has what many politicos consider the perfect resume for a presidential candidate.
He was the popular governor of a large swing state that is crucial to November, he speaks Spanish and is well-liked by the nation’s increasingly-important Latino population — and he has proven to be an adept fundraiser.
But his last name appeared too toxic, as his sibling left office with near record-low approval ratings.
The younger Bush has stayed on the sidelines in this race, despite calls from conservative commentators for him to jump in.
He reiterated that in an interview Thursday – and dismissed talk that he could make a bid four years from now to follow his brother and father to the White House.
“Next time, I hope to work for the reelection of a Republican incumbent,” he told Fox News.
Despite solicitations from all of the Republican candidates, Bush did not endorse a candidate during last month’s Florida primary – and has said that he would not give his blessing until the party picks a nominee.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/jeb-bush-bashes-republican-presidential-field-stoking-fears-campaign-article-1.1027995#ixzz1nKYY6Ixr
This is outrageous when so called Republicans come out and bash others in their party.
It is detrimental and gives the Democrats more ammunition and they are laughing and loving this.
Patty commented:
While Obama is working on the much needed votes of the Hispanics and confident he has another 5 mores years. (failed in math)
This process keeps dragging on and on. We need a miracle. I am not losing faith, though.
Possibly a big surprise could turn this thing around. That’s my hope.
1RedBeard commented:
So… is Mrs. Santorum saying that God has changed his mind about Rick running for the presidency? I never really thought of God as being that fickle.
Mama Grizzly commented:
1. DEFEAT OBAMA
2. Figure out who actually CAN DEFEAT OBAMA
3. Vote for THAT PERSON
That’s all that matters. Obama will destroy us.
Romney is leading in the polls AGAINST OBAMA, compared to the other candidates AGAINST OBAMA.
Listening right now to Rush b*tch about “seminar callers” for Romney. Anyone who is not 100% for Santorum is not genuine. I have problems with the polls too. I don’t think Santorum can win this election against Captain Zero. I think Romney can.
We NEVER should have had a L-O-N-G primary. It has presented a divided GOP. Now, we need to get on with it.
All Santorum’s “God talk” might be okay for some, but people outside the conservative Christian circle are going to be turned off. If you believe — great. Reagan did too, but he didn’t do it the way we keep hearing from the Santorums. My thought is that they’re too insulated in a world of homeschoolers and large Catholic families. A subculture.
Still for Romney here. My only interest is in beating Obama. And RUSH: polls are not the best measure of things. Statistics is a loose science at best. The MSM in charge of a poll is REALLY a problem.
If the country truly rallies around Santorum, fine. But I’m not buying it.
And to the Santorums: we are not trying to elect the pastor or priest of America. Stop.
Mama Grizzly commented:
(correction) . . . is not genuine, i.e. not legitimate.
Santorum “God’s Will” — aaahhhhh — the whole thing is just pathetic. Will the real “God’s Will candidate please stand up.
Just stop.
Look at the platform. Look at MANY polls and the source of polls to see who is more popular against Obama.
IMO Rick has long-standing personal issues that are so evident and he seems unstable. Maybe he can turn it around, but all the spiritual mumbo-jumbo is just sickening. Obama did the SAME THING in the 2008 campaign.
Mama Grizzly commented:
One more thing: his kids always look worried and confused.
Compared with Romney’s kids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7aPlHxgWFI
the longer version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vOZtwM021k&feature=related
All the “ultimate” nature of Rick’s campaign, and the tension in their family says something to me. It says that there are dependency issues and the kids feel too responsible, or other issues of fear and worry. If it’s about “GOD” then if one doesn’t WIN, then uh-oh–one has disappointed the Almighty. This is a trip, and I feel angry.
(you might have noticed) . . . : )
Santorum would be better than Obama, but why not a businessman and former governor? I’m just not getting why it’s even a question.
Got Billy Ayers on Speed Dial commented:
People of faith get mocked even on this conservative thread. And the difference between liberal and conservative is what, again?
Got Billy Ayers on Speed Dial commented:
So much for Ronald Reagan avoiding his social conservatism during his campaign:
During Ronald Reagan’s presidential campaign, “A reporter asked Reagan if he shared the evangelicals’ rejection of Darwin’s theory of evolution and demand that creationism be taught in public schools. This is the kind of question a politician should duck on the grounds that it has no relevance for the would-be occupant of the White House. At the very least, Reagan could have repaired to his oft-expressed view that we should get God back in the classroom by allowing school prayer, a position that was highly popular according to polls. Not Reagan. He wanted to answer straightforwardly. He said, “I think that recent discoveries down through the years pointed [out] great flaws in it.” Reagan said; “creation theory” should be taught side-by-side with evolution” — excerpt from “The Age of Reagan: The Fall of the Liberal Order 1964-1980, by Steven F. Hayward.
The point being that using Reagan’s presidential campaign in support of a writer’s contentions about today’s circumstance is misleading. Can you imagine the GOP nominee proposing teaching creationism and evolutionary science side-by-side today? I thought Reagan never mentioned his social conservative views back in the day?
Mama Grizzly commented:
No one, including me, is mocking Santorum’s faith, you tool.
But it is NOT a winning public stance.
And hey–I imagine you DO have Billy Ayers on speed dial.
Get lost.
Reagan thought about and wrote about his positions a full 14 years before he ran for office. He knew who he was and what he thought. He was a grand communicator.
The other problem I have with Rick is that he gets his feelings hurt and it’s obvious to everyone. He takes it really personally. And when he’s trying to make his point(s) he gets tongue-tied. Not good.
jimg commented:
So, when Santorum starts tanking in the polls, will she blame Satan?
This is not a winning strategy, people.
Nelle commented:
I think Mrs Santorum needs to talk about anything other than God, because that’s all the press wants to hear from her. They will waste no time making her look like a nutcase, no matter what she says, because that’s a good way to damage his campaign. They think people of genuine faith are nuts, while fakey fake wink-and-nod liberal faith is useful for tricking believers. Swine. Pearls. Don’t throw.
Sparky commented:
#22 Right on!
Your religious beliefs should not be the driving force behind a political campaign. The Santorum’s have changed the focus of their campaign from the REAL and critical issues facing Americans, to one of religious warfare instead of political warfare.
So, God is working only Santorum’s behalf? What happens when Santorum craters?
What is even worse is that saying that it is “GOD”S WILL” removes ALL personal accountability and responsibility from the individual. Yes, now we need a nation where everyone blames God, Satan, etc. etc.
How can Tea Party members support Santorum? He does not believe in separation of church and state like the Founding Fathers intended in the Constitution. He does not believe in individual freedom, nor personal accountability.
This religious talk will do nothing but hurt his campaign…as it should. Americans do not want to replace the Thug-in-Chief with a Pastor-in-Chief.
Newt remains the best nominee and the only one who can beat Obama. Newt represents confidence, stability, trust and security in a time where a knowledgeable, tenacious, statesman-like HAWK is required.
Mimi commented:
So mama g you don’t care that romney lied about forc ing religious institutions to violate their religious beliefs.
MyOwnEyes commented:
Has anyone else found out about the lie Romney told in the debate. Yep here it is and you can check Catholic Insider or the Boston Globe.
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2012/02/24/mitt-romney-tells-the-big-lie-on-honoring-religious-conscience/
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Did I miss Jim’s post on this?
maraz commented:
I love Santorum and his family for not being afraid of talking about their faith. I’d much rather hear a real Christian talk about their faith — especially when it is heart felt and not on a teleprompter…. rather than hear Obama talk about his Muslim faith… I mean… Christian faith from the teleprompter. Then behind the scenes have Muslims praying to Meca on the White House lawn.
Why is everyone so timid about showcasing a religion that holds principles that this country was founded on… George Washington was famous for getting on his knees to pray before moving forward with a particular plan of action.
I’m not Christian… I’m Jewish… but I love seeing people hold G-d so firmly in their heart. I would infinitely trust those people above and beyond those that find a display of religion a mistake.
Everyone that makes comments that this is a mistake for Santorum… are you also aware that Germany used to be a strong Christian society… but as soon as the statist moved in… among the first priorities was to secularize the Christians and make them move away from G-d — thus towards government. Then Hitler comes in and every one hails him. If you’ve ever asked yourself the question: How could a developed and educated society allow someone like Hitler to kill so many people? How could the people stand aside and turn their Jewish neighbors in and enable the killings?
Well the answer is simple. Those that participated in the slaughter no longer worshipped G-d or followed his teachings… they worshipped the secular instead.
G-d bless Santorum and his wife and their faith.
maraz commented:
My above post #26 is aimed at comments like Nelle #22 and Sparky #23.
The fear of talking about faith sounds like you guys are sponges of the media talking points.
MoreLiberty commented:
Looking at the picture of this page, I guess wearing sweater vests runs in the family.
Got Billy Ayers on Speed Dial commented:
Mama Grizzly is kinda grizzly…lol
maraz commented:
@ MyOwnEyes #25
I’ll pass this news around to a lot of people. Thanks… that was good information. Unfortunately I don’t like the Redstate guy… but I found other articles on the same idea found here:
Were Catholic Hospitals in Massachusetts forced to provide Morning-After Pills?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/were-catholic-hospitals-massachusetts-forced-provide-morning-after-pills_631848.html
—
Fact-check: Did Romney lie about Cardinal and Contraception during Wednesday debate?
http://bostoncatholicinsider.wordpress.com/2012/02/23/did-romney-lie-about-cardinal-omalley-to-the-nation-during-the-wednesday-debate/
maraz commented:
#29… LOL… I would agree.
Meathead commented:
So Mrs. Santorum, god got out of bed, yawned and said Wow, Mitt didn’t do well in that last debate – I’m kind of liking Rick better today. What kind of logic is that? Take Archie Bunker’s advice and stifle yourself Mrs. Santorum. Beginning sentences with ‘god sez’ just makes you sound like a loon.
Sparky commented:
#27
I am a Catholic like the Santorum’s. I do not fear talking about religion but there is a place and time for everything. The middle of an election campaign for the GOP nominee is not the time to espouse your religious beliefs.
Talking about Satan attacking American institutions, and that main line (Protestant) churches are in shambles is ridiculous. Santorum has basically alienated much of American voters and provs he is incapable of being President of people of ALL religions.
The media is having a heyday with this and will make the Santorum’s out to be unstable religious zealots.
I guess we can’t blame Karen Santorum because it was God’s Will that she chose to make public her thoughts without considering the fallout!
Sparky commented:
Great video of Newt’s comments from the last debate. He is awesome!
I’m Liking the sound of President Gingrich more and more!
http://www.newt.org/news/video-twitter-highlights-from-the-cnn-debate-in-arizona/
maraz commented:
@ Sparky #33 — what did Santorum say about Satan that was wrong? I happen to agree with every word despite the faux outrage by the media. The Statist do work towards tempting people away from Judaic/Christian principles.
Try listening to these videos and you’ll see what I’m referring to…
VIDEOs: Beck & Rabbi Lapin show why you should care about ‘Baal’ & rising secular fundamentalism
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/beck-rabbi-lapin-tackle-baal-the-rise-of-secular-fundamentalism-on-gbtv/
maraz commented:
Another MUST LISTEN video would be this one… Rabbi Lapin is the best conservative Rabbi out there… and his message is not unlike that of Santorum’s
VIDEO: Bricks or Stones? Rabbi Daniel Lapin on Glenn Beck – The Tower of Babel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRKZ7dIGEo4
I guarantee if anyone takes the time to watch these videos of Rabbi Lapin… you will have a brand new enlightened interpretation…
maraz commented:
So Sparky… are you a practicing Christian or a Secular Christian in which your fear of public opinion outweighs your commitment to G-d?
MJ commented:
Good for her.
Lots of candidates feel that way. No, they dont always win.
So she is a woman of faith…I always forget, in USSA, thats a ‘not cool’ thing.
Well, if you really feel that way, you’ve been dup’d and believe the Commie goals:
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.
MJ commented:
Maraz:
These people who are making light of Mrs. S are pseudo-cons. Like Sparky actually believes that Gd is not supposed to be part of our governing. He is dup’d.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1272893/posts
I agree, Rabbi Lapin is a wonderful, conservative Rabbi.
Less formidable than Rabbi Kahane, but he is good and super spiritual.
maraz commented:
Thanks MJ #37 & #38
Agreed and great posts. I included your link in my archive notes.
maraz commented:
Also… to people like Sparky who think Santorum is wrong in the context of his discussion on Satan… then why isn’t Sparky equally outraged by Maxine Waters calling Republicans “Demons.”
Two speaches using a similar theme… only the former is absolutely correct while the latter is a gross outrage… IMO.
VIDEO: Crooked Dem Maxine Waters: John Boehner and Eric Cantor are “Demons”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/02/crooked-dem-maxine-waters-john-boehner-and-eric-cantor-are-demons-video/
maraz commented:
Also… great interview…
VIDEO: Rick Santorum interview with Megyn Kelly
http://www.therightscoop.com/rick-santorum-interview-with-megyn-kelly/
Fuquay Steve commented:
I didn’t know we conservatives were so afraid of faith! Or maybe, some of these commentators are not here to espouse conservatism. hm… me thinks I smell something rotten in Denmark. Who here works for the opposition? Be honest, don’t be shy, we won’t bite. I’m not afraid of a man or woman of faith – it’s the one’s that pretend to be outraged by people of faith that should be feared or shunned (but we wouldn’t shun those types, would we Jim? – We’d give them a platform. That’ll fix ‘em!)
Skip commented:
Does Santorum’s wife believe if he wins the nomination that God will help him win the general election against Obama and the MSM?
So the Santourm family is religious…this is fine. But, he has not convinced me that he is Presidential. I don’t believe he is up to the task of defeating Obama and goverrning the country.
The only one of the four remaining candidates which has a legitimate chance of defeating Obama is Newt Gingrich! If the nominee is not Gingrich Obama wins a second term and will destroy America.
It’s time to get serious folks. Can any of you imagine what Obama will do with another 4 years as president? It will be a nightmare we will never recover from.
Mama Grizzly commented:
maraz, you make some good points, and I’ll check out your vids, but Americans in politics have to take into consideration that we are a pluralistic society, and that not only Christians vote
I kind of agree with Sparky, and I personally echo what Santorum has said about all of this and the spiritual condition of the country, but he is making it look like it’s the Catholics against . . . . not sure . . . . okay, Satan, okay abortion . . . .
But the focus on Obama is getting completely lost. It will be framed as the Religious Right AGAINST everyone else, and particularly the Roman Catholics and their church against everyone else.
NO. Not a winning ticket.
The focus should stay on OBAMA.
Will do some more research, but we have 3 Roman Catholics and 1 Mormon, and it just looks like what it looks like. It is really important to be inclusive and get everyone on board.
I don’t have anything against the Santorums or their faith, but I want Obama to lose this election.
FurryGuy commented:
You have to remember that NONE of the Bush clan by any stretch of the imagination could be considered remotely conservative; neither GHW, GW, nor Jeb. By their words and actions they are moderates and party elites of the first water.
Mama Grizzly commented:
Could someone explain, then, if these reports are true re: Romney, why the MA pro-life people endorse him??
Thanks.
Mama Grizzly commented:
I think Eric Cantor and John Boener are really good guys. Did you see their faces at the last State of the Union? Priceless, as was the expression on I think it was the head of the Navy or Air Force. Plenty of people worried about Obama.
Liz commented:
Santorum voted to support Planned Parenthood. His Pro-Choice roots popping up there.
maraz commented:
@ Mama Grizzly #44
I’m Jewish… and I’m not offended by Christianity. Only Islam or supporters of Islam and the Left are offended. And I thought this was a melting pot society in which everyone assimilates… NOT a pluralistic society
You forget that it was OBAMA who started this fight when he forced the HHS mandate against the church. And quite frankly it was Obama who has been fueling the fight against religion all along. It is Obama who keeps the fight fueled via his surrogates known as the Liberal media.
All that is happening now is that good G-d fearing Americans are NOT backing down from the fight that OBAMA STARTED.
Again… G-d bless Santorum and his family. He has my support more than ever now. I hope he doesn’t listen to the cowards that tell him to coward away from the topic.
Mama Grizzly commented:
maraz, if you think only jihadists and leftists are offended you are mistaken. Offended really isn’t the word, but “put off” perhaps. Worried perhaps.
I’m not a Moslem or a Leftist, but I know how they’re going to use it if the Santorums keep saying it’s “God’s will” that they win.
Just sayin’.
Mama Grizzly commented:
It also shows a remarkable lack of judgement IMO.
But whatever, if he can win fine by me.
The traitor Obama must be defeated.
Christopher Taylor commented:
Well clearly if you think God is sovereign and His will guides all history, then its totally reasonable to say God’s will caused something to happen such as a rise in the polls. This wasn’t even remotely controversial a few decades ago.
donh commented:
Yes God is clearly at work. The affliction of Bella at the critical moment of the Florida primary was a call from God . I thoguht it was a call to exit the race so conservatives could unite around a single candidate to defeat Obama’s collaborator Rmoney and on to defeat Obama himself. However, looking at how the Catholic Church has come under assault by the Cult of death, that crisis of Bella was part of the larger battle between the worshippers of Christ and Satan. It was a father Abraham test that has strengthened Rick as to the importance of winning this campaign. This is a life or death election determining what kind of people we will be.
maraz commented:
@ Mama Grizzly # 50
That’s not how I interpreted the statements… Santorum’s wife said that “his rise in the polls is due to God working in mysterious ways”
Santorum’s wife then went on to say that she felt it was G-d’s will that most likely set them on the path they are on. I see nothing wrong with those statements and often have similar thoughts in everything that has happened in my own life.
And the only people I have encountered that are uncomfortable with someone expressing their faith have all been friends that lean left. Me included. I was once a Liberal myself and totally uncomfortable when someone even said “G-d bless you.” But NO MORE — I understand the political correctness damage to America. A healthy America is my first priority now and that includes healthy-minded citizens who embrace G-d. I think Obama woke up a large majority of Americans on a similar level and the majority equally understands the context of Santorum’s statements and support him for it.
bg commented:
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well, it was fun while it lasted..
toodles Rick..
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Sparky commented:
#56 bg: Exactly!
bg commented:
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maraz #40 February 24, 2012 at 4:19 pm
when it comes to discussing evil v good, i’m with Santorum 100%, just
don’t make it personal.. God did not give man the gift of free will to be
used as an instrument of Gods will to harness mans free will..
that said..
there is a God, and we are the people, Amen..
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bg commented:
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Patty #11 February 24, 2012 at 1:50 pm
i have two words for Jeb Bush, Terri Schiavo..
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Mama Grizzly commented:
donh — your comment is uncharacteristic of your usual . . .
Mama Grizzly commented:
maraz: What if the Soros-funded Dem machine goes on blogs and encourages people to get behind a losing candidate? Obama wins, right?
Another question: if Santorum starts to do badly in polls, is it God or Satan? See . . . that’s the problem with framing a campaign this way. It gets ridiculous.
If Santorum will maintain his personal faith, it will come through. It doesn’t matter if it’s mentioned. What matters is the focus.
People want out of this economy. People who know about it want out of Islamic domination.
I still support Romney at this point.
Fuquay Steve commented:
Mama….enough said ….keep on supporting that Rhino and we’ll be missing dole or Mccain…..or we can go for jeb at the convention. I vote for paul/romney as perhaps the most viable candidate for those ‘conservatives’ that are populating this site. Good luck to ya’ – i’m sure it’ll work out fine, no problem with either candidate, clean as a whistle and honest as the day is long, and instead on a chicken in every pot maybe mitt could provide one of his autos for everyone.
Mama Grizzly commented:
Whatever Steve.
I don’t think Romney is clean as the wind-driven snow. Get real. Santorum has his own problems. Newt has a nice set, and Uncle Ron is . . . Uncle Ron–ready to hand the world over to the radical Moslems. Who do you support and why?
And maraz: all your G-d talk seems contrived.
Why so many new posters?
donh commented:
” Another question: if Santorum starts to do badly in polls, is it God or Satan? See . . . that’s the problem with framing a campaign this way. It gets ridiculous. ”
It would mean God needed Rick for this point in time as a saving grace for this country or to help God save a few more souls of the faithful . No guarantee the grace of God carries Rick all the way to President. The amount of ritual murder through abortion going on in this country may infact generate such an overwhelming darkness of evil, Satan’s appointed minister wins re-election so as to fullfill the complete apocalypse of the human race as prophesied in the Book of Revelations. Personally I believe we survive total ObamiNation, but we may lose a city of 5 million people before the nightmare is over.
bg commented:
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ht StrangernFiction
can’t see Romney for the trees..
ht lizzy84
Gingrich (just a sample)
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Mama Grizzly commented:
I understand what you’re saying donh.
But people have to turn to G-d, through Jesus the Messiah, not to Rick Santorum.
Any of the candidates who have promised to repeal Obamacare are heading in the right direction. Those who will strip policy of funded abortion all the better. Those who will support turning the issue back the the states best.
el polacko commented:
if rick were leaving his family for the priesthood (or campaigning for pope) this comment from his wife would be appropriate… for the american presidency, not so much.
Mama Grizzly commented:
BTW, I’m not actually against Rick Santorum. Just trying to figure all this out.
Simsalabim commented:
Since most of you don’t read the bible, let me just tell you that it is explicitly clear that God puts all governments into power. He has allowed more corrupt governments and more vileness that even the Obama government to be in power. Although a big supporter of Santorum, I doubt that the Santorums know exactly what God’s will is. I would never have thought that it would be God’s will for Obama to be in power but he is and nothing happens outside of God’s will.
You get what God wants you to have. He is sovereign.
Adi commented:
Does she knows what God wants?
Ever heard of the third commandment?
Mama Grizzly commented:
To follow your reasoning Sim, then to fight Obama is to fight G-d, since G-d installed him into power. There is nothing in the bible that says “God puts all governments into power.” How heretical and nonsensical.
So . . . the governments that torture little girls (and boys) are put there by . . . . God. No way.
G-d does not tempt anyone with evil. G-d opposes evil. We are instructed to oppose evil. The Holy Scripture is totally clear on that. It is written that woe to those who call good evil and evil good. That is all stuff of the evil one.
Resist these bad teachings, these false teachings people. We MUST OPPOSE evil and vanquish it. Jesus is our example, both in personal temptation, and in the defeat of the evil one at the cross. Fight the good fight, and do not be overcome by evil. Evil is not G-d’s will.
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And if you’re not a believer in G-d, then know that evil is just plain bad, repulsive, destructive, wrong, unproductive, hurtful, and devastating, leading people to despair and futility.
Ausonius commented:
Liz the never-ceasing parrot. You need a truth-telling parrot though. Let’s see, last time you were saying Rick supported the individual mandate, even though I pointed you to where you could be cleansed of your error. Now, it is Rick the abortion supporter.
You’re just fanatical and ridiculous, and, incorrect once again.
If I recall correctly, your a Romneyite. That is Mitt Romney, the same one who has an extensive pro-choice record prior to his desire for a presidential run.
That’s right, Mitt the political chameleon. Mitt the shape-shifter. Mitt the liberal by every account until he wanted to be president.
Mitt hammers Rick for his No Child Left Behind vote, which Mitt spoke very favorably of a few years ago. Mitt’s hypocrisy is incredible, given his pre-2006 record on everything from abortion, health care, gay rights, gun control, immigration, and on and on.
Ausonius commented:
It’s incredible that Rick tries to take responsibility for some votes he regrets, and people tear him up. So humility is now a great weakness.
Speaking openly about faith is wrong, even in conservative circles. Wow. How times, and conservatism have changed. I don’t suppose many here read much of their beloved founding fathers, among whom included some of the most openly Christian folks in history. I suppose they were wrong also. My, my, how the Left has framed the nature of the debate indeed!
Romney on the other hand refuses to take claim that Romneycare was a bad idea.
Paul never seems to state how it is that he returned to a party so evil that he had to renounce it to and leave.
When Newt mentions his two marriage-ending affairs, he cites his patriotism as the root cause.
And you condemn the humility of Rick (which is driven no doubt by his faith)?
1RedBeard commented:
A few thoughts:
1. Faith is a great positive for the Santorums, and speaks well of their character.
2. Faith is an intensely personal thing, and wearing it on one’s sleeve is off-putting to many people. Trumpeting it can easily diminish it.
3. The Santorums are miscalculating the net effect of their public pronouncements about their faith during a national political campaign. It’s persuasive to see someone living the faithful life, but not so persuasive if the person has to tell everyone that he’s living according to his faith.
GOP KICKS ASS commented:
I personally do not care for Mrs. S. Are you people even aware that she lived with a 62-year old abortion doctor when she was 22 for six years? How can this woman be our FLOTUS.
Seriously folks?
GOP KICKS ASS commented:
I support Romney and here is why. I am NOT looking for a pastor or even a friend, I am looking for a leader for our country that can get us out of the abyss we are currently in and hopefully work with the other side to actually accomplish something positive and make our country great again. I think he has the credentials to do this.
Fuquay Steve commented:
#77 -Yea, working with the other side has done us a lot of good……good luck with that… Can I borrow one of his caddies? Or can he show me where the golden tablets are hidden?
Fuquay Steve commented:
#76 – Wow, the inanity of comments like this shows us how far the country has fallen. Well said brother, for your sake and the entire world’s sake , I hope your choice of candidates loses big.
Obamas regulation destroy jobs commented:
I believe in GOD too and I want someone who will defend Christians period…and someone who will fight against traitors to America (those who cut us down and apologize for everything). The White house has a huge chip on their shoulder about being born BLACK and we Americans are going to pay for it by sharing and giving degrees with P/F scoring system.
I thought Sanatorium was horrible in the debate and he seems like a bully and reminds me of a rat. Romney is a business man..Sanatorium could be far far right and get us killed unless this one does it for him. MR GREEN is disgusting..I am so ashamed that they are in the WH. I think every Liberal should pay the high GAS price, where an L on their forehead (for LOOSER) drive volts, pay and a L-VAT tax, pay for OBAMACARE, be assigned an illegal
family support them and all their kids!
Mimi commented:
Unfortunately all the Mitt people are missing the facts:
Romney cannot go against ObamaCare because of RomneyCare
Romney cannot go against Obama’s HHS assault against religious institutions because of his own assault against them
Romney cannot go against cap and tax because of his own in Mass
Romney can go against Obama’s class warfare because of his own 1% comments in his updated tax plan.
Remember Romney had a tax plan but it was so like Obama’s he had to chg it on Thursday
Romney is Obama Both can say they lowered taxes so what is Romney’s difference from Obama? Plus when the latest information comes out that Romney lied about going against religious conscience the majority of evangelicals and catholics will stay home or skip voting for the Presidential spot just like in 2008. Romney is not a good choice for us.
colleen commented:
I find Rick revolting and sactomonious
colleen porter commented:
rick is sactamonious
colleen porter commented:
Rick is so holy hu I say he is sactomonious