Dead Silence… After Rick Santorum Defends Earmarks at CNN GOP Debate

Obviously, the audience was not impressed with Rick Santorum’s defense of earmarks.
In this day and age defending earmarks is bad politics.

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  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    Tone deaf?

    Or just a dork?

  • Steve in La

    It is painfully obvious the audience is stacked with Romney supporters. When they introduced all 4 Romney got the loudest cheers.

  • bg

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    is there any way you could post something
    POSITIVE about any of the candidates GP??

    thank you..

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  • bg

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    or how about a post pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of Ron Paul??

    thanks again..

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  • dave in dallas

    Santorum was right, and the audience was flummoxed because they couldn’t understand his comments fast enough to cheer or boo them… they missed the opportunity.

    Blanket condemnation of earmarks is silly. It’s corruption, not earmarks, that is the problem.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    is there any way you could post something
    POSITIVE about any of the candidates GP??

    This is positive.

    There’s no need to guess or spin with Santorum – people know exactly where he stands on the issue of earmarks.

  • maraz

    Clearly this is a debate is designed to gang up against the conservative Santorum… but he’s doing great… IMO… he’s really taking Romney on…

    The debate being streamed live here…
    http://www.therightscoop.com/8pm-watch-cnn-republican-debate/

  • bg

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    #6 February 22, 2012 at 8:07 pm
    Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    oh yes, and i for one appreciate his HONESTY..

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  • Joe College

    We would have built a barrier on our southern border forty years ago that rivals the Great Wall of China is most of the people slipping across the border were potential Republicans.

  • maraz

    Cool… Sheriff Arpaio is in the audience… and guess who’s the man Arpaio might be rooting for….

    Sheriff Joe briefs Santorum on Obama probe‘As a matter of fairness in case he wouldn’t want me to support him’
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/sheriff-joe-briefs-santorum-on-obama-probe/

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  • dave in dallas

    JoeCollege LOLOL if only illegal immigrants were coming to vote Republican! 🙂 We’d already have moats and alligators on the border. Right past the mine fields and the electric fence. And the electric eels, in the first moat. And the electric “anti immigration” laser robots.

    Heck, if illegal immigrants came here to vote Republican, we’d have special operations teams pursuing them throughout Mexico like Blacque Jacques Pershing chased Pancho Villa. We’d have democrats passing out condoms and morning after pills all the way down to Honduras, just to prevent the next generation of Republican voters from being born.. 🙂

  • Steve

    We are Live Streaming the GOP Presidential Debate now on Common Cents…

    http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2012/02/live-streaming-gop-presidential-debate.html

  • bg
  • Sasja

    Folks, not all earmarks are bad. If states could keep most of their money instead of funneling it to Washington, there would not be any need for earmarks. This is one tool used to get some of the money back to the states which should have been left there in the first place.

  • Joe College

    Doesn’t ever occur to liberals that Iran might attack us instead of Israel?

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  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    It’s corruption, not earmarks, that is the problem.

    Seems to me that the presence of earmarks is what brings out the corruption, or factors into it.

  • Joe College

    What did we just have in Libya? Wasn’t that war? We bombed the sh*t out of them for months and nobody especially cared. But liberals are all so aghast about bombing the Iran capability.

  • Spider

    How can contraception be the one and only issue of this year’s election? The media is leading the DNC’s mis-direction play and that’s all they debate lately.

    The economy is running on fumes and the administration is saying un-employment is a good thing.

    Iran is about to blow, and the POTUS is at a party singing.

    Oh yeah, have you noticed the price of gas?

  • maraz

    VIDEO: Romney endorses #OWS rhetoric, vows to make “the top 1% pay their fair share or more.”: Romney talks the 1% in Arizona
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjpmWpPKYmI

  • myohmy

    Romney asked earmark to fund his Olympic and Romneycare. What a hypocrite.

  • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

    The media is leading the DNC’s mis-direction play and…

    What should one expect? The Stupid Party sets up these debates to be HOSTED by a leftist media outlet *cough*CNN*cough*, and the moderator is the same idiot that started out a previous debate by mentioning Gingrich’s ex-wife’s “open marriage” BS. And here he is, moderating ANOTHER Republican debate. I mean, come on now.

    If it appears the field is being made to look foolish, no one should be surprised, considering the circumstances.

  • Mahdi Al-Dajjal

    #12 Dave:

    Too funny! EXACTLY what the Dems would be doing.

  • MJ

    Ron Paul defends HIS earmarks.
    30 million for a SHIP?

  • MJ

    #21:
    Romney will probably become the flavor of the week for leftists with that statement (1% #OWS)

  • bg

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    first good debate of it’s type so far, too bad it’s also the last.. 🙁

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  • bg

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    #9 February 22, 2012 at 8:11 pm
    Joe College

    #12 February 22, 2012 at 8:20 pm
    dave in dallas

    rotf 😆 mbo!!

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  • SANTORUM IS FULL OF IT. A PHONY.

    AND MANY OF HIS EARMARKS WENT TO HIS PALS.

    AND HE SUPPORTED ARLEN.

    HE ALWAYS PLAYED ALONG WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT.

  • StrangernFiction

    I’m sure had Mitt been a senator he NEVER would have earmarked.

  • Liz

    I didn’t follow that convoluted blather either. Say what Santy?

  • FurryGuy

    #29 February 22, 2012 at 9:06 pm
    an idiot shouted:

    You continually shout by typing all your comment in caps, yet you NEVER have anything substantive to say no matter how you type it. You come across like a mouth-breather from DU or Huffpo.

    You need to learn better netiquette and get a new set of talking points. I will still be ignoring you, regardless.

  • StrangernFiction

    #21 February 22, 2012 at 8:40 pm
    maraz commented:

    VIDEO: Romney endorses #OWS rhetoric, vows to make “the top 1% pay their fair share or more.”: Romney talks the 1% in Arizona
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjpmWpPKYmI

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    And then Mitt acts incredulous when Santorum brings this up in the debate.

  • donh

    After Newt’s debate success in SC resulting in a poll surge, the establishment has gone all in on vetting the venue and audience. Mesa has a very substantial Mormon Temple…> http://youtu.be/ba4w3oIPfYE . The fact it was so obviously stacked for Rmoney means there is a good chance it will fail to repeat the same results as in Florida.

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  • Fuquay Steve

    Jim – I did hear Ron Paul fart though, so it wasn’t that silent.

  • Fuquay Steve

    Jim – what do you say we go after Rick’s grandfather again, we haven’t seen that story in a couple of weeks. Ps Intrades up for Rick down for Mitt. Ron Paul is moving to Iran.

  • KornKing

    Open convention- let’s see a “Draft Rick Perry” movement

  • Freddy

    No major gaff’s by anyone in this debate.

    Romney is still clinging to the idea that he can manage healthcare like he did with Romneycare! It is hard to understand how Romney can even claim that he will be getting rid of Obamacare whan having control of it will allow him to show the rest of us how great a manager he really is! And there lies the problem for Mitt. What you never hear from Romney, a very successfull manager, is that the total of individual thought is far greater than central planning.

    One needs to look no farther than every answer that Romney had in tonights debate to see what I am referring to.

    Which, in my opinion, is why Romney does not ‘connect’ with conservatives.

  • Gravelyvoice Jim

    We either allow earmarks or turn funds over to the administration in power to use as they see fit, resulting in our money being spent on “noble” causes such as this:

    http://netrightdaily.com/2012/02/saul-alinsky-affiliated-group-gets-56-million-obamacare-grant-in-wisconsin/

    Earmarks are a double-edged sword subject to congressional abuse on one hand and presidential king-making without them. A better solution is to scale back the government and only fund what is authorized under Article 1 Section 8. Has anyone ever heard Santorum ever remotely suggest something like this? I just heard him say on the CNN post-debate show that “Politics is a team sport.” when justifying his crappy NCLB vote. Last time I looked, these guys weren’t taking oaths of office to “protect and defend” their TEAMS. Good ol’ “go along to get along” Slick Rick…this attitude is precisely why he ended up campaigning for Benedict Arlen Specter with George Bush in the 2004 PA senate primary and why the Republican Party is in the mess it’s are in today.

    Conservatives, even social conservatives, need to look before they leap into the arms of someone who has consistently voted for big government programs and has not moved out of the beltway since failing to get re-elected over a half-decade ago.

    Here’s a pretty comprehensive look at Santorum’s voting record when he was a member of congress and a “team player”, if the anti-Romney’s can get past Erickson’s editorial in the first paragraph the rest is pretty telling.

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/06/what-a-big-government-conservative-looks-like/

  • Sasja

    Romneycare has not been good for MA. That Mittens still thinks it was one of his great achievements is worrisome.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/health-care/9042-study-romneycare-killed-18000-massachusetts-jobs

    There are more recent data available and when I can find the source I saw earlier today, I will link it.

  • Sasja

    And there is this:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/09/22/romney_health_plan_a_bust_for_massachusetts_111436.html

    Mittens handlers are pushing him right, but that is not where his heart is, and I doubt that is how he will govern.

    We also need to think about who he will favor for judicial appointments.

  • Sasja

    Sorry, I meant to correct that but hit post instead. Oopsy.

  • Estragon

    Santorum is right on the earmarks thing. Without earmarks, the Executive can spend the money almost any way he wants.

    The problems and corruption come when earmarks are SECRETLY slipped in at the committee or, even worse, in conference, without public notice and hearings available. Require all earmark requests to be submitted and posted before mark-up begins, and ban any late earmarks, and all the problems are solved without giving up legislative power.

  • Estragon

    Unfortunately, in politics sometimes a term just becomes toxic. Earmarks have. I blame nearly 40 years of federal control of education.

  • Mark Levin discussed the apparent pass Ron Paul has given to Mitt Romney while relentlessly attacking every Conservative throughout the entire primary to date, typically saying, “they aren’t Conservatives”…strange coming from a Libertarian. His son, Rand Paul, is making public overtures to being Romney’s VP running mate, so maybe the puzzle pieces are falling into place. Ron Paul gives Romney a pass and does all his dirty work to eliminate all real Conservatives in exchange for putting Rand Paul on his ticket…just speculating, but it certainly passes the “could be” test.

  • NC Mountain Girl

    I got a kick out of Romney attacking Santorum on the so called bridge to nowhere before a Mormon audience. The biggest federal government sponsored road through nowhere in American history was the pet project of Brigham Young. It was called the Transcontinental Railroad and was crucial to the development of the Salt Lake area. Was that an inappropriate use of Federal money? There was zero population to be served across much of the route at the time. The proper question isn’t what traffic there is now for without a bridge there is no traffic. The question has to be whether the new infrastructure will be cost effective at incubating development.

  • Mimi

    Still like Santorum. Romney just gives me the creeps. I can’t honestly believe that anyone would vote for Romney. RomneyCare, bank bailouts, climate chg and now he has tipped his hat towards the 1% class warfare hooey with his tax plan. Really people.

  • Fuquay Steve

    #48 +1 – There seems to be a theme for Romney supporters – they opine that there is no point to actually voting , he is pre-destined to be the nominee. Oh, I don’t agree with pre-destination of any kind. Let us vote and decide the candidate before you annoint the victor.

  • Gary

    bg

    Why are you even bothering about Ron Paul.
    He’s a non-issue. Almost everybody understands who and what he is, and we know he doesn’t have a prayer at the nomination. And I pity anybody who takes him seriously.
    So the less we mention him the better. He’ll be gone soon enough.

  • Gary

    Dave in Dallas #5

    You’re echoing the very point I was making about Santorum yesterday. He may be saying things that are Conservative, but he presents them in a way that makes people think he’s wrong. He lacks charisma and a way of articulating a point that brings people around to his way of thinking.

  • Gary

    Joe College

    Not to step on your point too much, but the Great Wall failed to do its job.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_wall_of_china
    (look under the section Ming Era)

    The gates were opened by a turncoat. Probably what would happen here if we had a wall (Oh unless we don’t put any gates in. Kinda makes you wonder why they did that)

  • Gary

    Sasja 15

    That has been Santorum’s argument all along, and I don’t see any fault in it really. It’s easy to demonize the earmarks, but his point is that if he doesn’t fight for his own state’s taxpayer’s money back, then it will just go to other states. Look what happened when Scott Walker (WI) and Rick Scott (FL) turned down the money for high-speed rail. The govt just looked for other potential takers. The federal govt is into blowing money. I can certainly see why a senator or congressman would try to at least get the money back to their local pet projects rather than see it prop up art museums in NYC.

  • Gary

    Blacque #18

    As Santorum pointed out (or maybe it was Ron Paul), if they don’t earmark the money, its disbursement falls to the executive. So essentially, if you buy the argument, they do it to keep it out of Obama’s hands.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/253159/eliminating-earmarks-phony-issue-james-m-inhofe

  • Gary

    StrangernFiction #30

    I was thinking the same thing when Santorum was being booed. I’m betting Romney is glad he was never in Congress. No question he would have been the earmark king.

  • Gary

    Fuquay #49

    Just like I said yesterday, if you can point to one example to disprove me, I’d like to see it. Romney beats Obama in about half the polls. Neither Santorum, Gingrich, nor Ron Paul have beaten Obama in any national poll to this day.

    We’ve seen non-Romneys surge and fall one after the other. All the while Romney clings to his 27% base and waits. How many more millions do you want to see poured out trying to disprove what is almost certain? Santorum and Gingrich have both seen great infusions of cash recently, but Gingrich’s numbers have totally tanked and Santorum is rounding the curve on a second decline in ratings.

    I’ve never posited that Romney is any great Conservative, and I do think Rick Santorum is a true Conservative despite a few mis-steps, but he just doesn’t have the staying power to get the nomination. Furthermore, if he did get the nomination, you’ve already seen what a little mud-slinging by Romney has done to him, but it’s nothing compared to the MSM and the Obama machine in the general election.

    You want to put it to a vote, no argument here. Just don’t be shocked when Romney continues to emerge as the front-runner time and again without putting forth any real plan and primarily doing nothing more than slinging mud.

    Don’t hate the player. Hate the game.
    (Yeah I said it)

  • burt

    RON PAUL spends all the federal dollars he can get his hands on. I bet they did ask him about earmarks.

  • myohmy

    Ron Paul spent 30 years earmarking and sending the tab to the taxpayers. Ron Paul is the fake one. He should just retire from Congress.

  • myohmy

    Santorum is correct 40% of the children were born out of wedlock and it is time to address family breakdown. It is crazy to howl for smaller government when the breakdown of family has been attacked by liberals to replace fathers with paternal government.

  • Fuquay Steve

    Gary : I don’t hate the player but what I do hate is a pre-determined outcome based on one’s wealth- that sucks and is not the merit-based. Romney’s programs will not advance this country one bit – stagnation and the resulting atrophy of achievement will be his only landmark if this rhino is elected. The pundits are in agreement – if you want more of the same you should vote for Mitt. I don’t and I believe most Americans don’t. I don’t hate the player – i hate where he will take us – nowhere. His tax policies suck, Romneycare is the pits, he’s pro choice, he’s Obama only in paler skin. Good luck with that.

  • Patty
  • Gary

    Fuquay #60

    I’ll cede you that point.
    As for voting for Mitt, though, it will be because he isn’t Obama and we have to get rid of Obama.
    If I thought Santorum could beat Obama, I’d be rallying behind him. I don’t so I’m not.

    Back to your point, as Conservatives, we do have to find a way to revamp our entire process. I was disappointed by the entire cast of characters last summer, and out of the lot, I thought Bachmann had the best message and the strongest Conservative record. Other Conservatives simply did not agree. Then we went through one non-Romney after another and here we are.

  • bg

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    Gingrich / West 2012’s Best!!

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  • bg

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    Gary #50 February 23, 2012 at 7:04 am

    Ron Paul is to Romney, what Huckabee was to McCain, a vote sucker!!

    iow: Ron Paul voters are sucking votes away from more qualified Reps,
    ergo, assuring an Obama win.. same game play they made in 08, well,
    until Palin stepped in and toppled the applecart so to speak.. hah, i bet
    McCain was never more shocked than when he almost won due to Lady
    Hobbit..

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  • Mark S.

    Yet those same “dumbfounded” voters will cheer and vote in the guy/gal who promises to bring in the most projects to their district.. what do they think those promises/projects are?

    it was stupid when McCain tried running on lowering earmarks… it was stupid when the Republican party (and yes, even to a lesser extent the Tea Party) were whining about earmarks… and it’s stupid now for Romney to try to use earmarks as a selling point.