Chesterfield Grants Citizens the Right to Protect Home from Intruders… Except For Squirrels
Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, January 10, 2012, 11:48 AM
Chesterfield, Missouri is proposing a new ordinance that will prevent citizens from shooting pellet guns at nuisance animals like squirrels. Resident Gene Schenberg says the proposed law breaks the Missouri State Constitution.
Local FOX 2 reported:
The Chesterfield City Council is proposing a new ordinance, many say violates the Missouri Constitution.
The issue boils down to the right to protect property, but the question is protect it from what?
Chesterfield officials say you have the right to protect yourself or your land from an intruder, but if that intruder is an animal, then they want residents to think again.
Gene Schenberg’s Chesterfield home is under siege. Squirrels are claiming their territory and damaging his property.
But nothing worked, until Schenberg bought a pellet gun. “It is extremely accurate and it`s a little tiny pellet,” said Schenberg. But his tactics triggered concern from a nearby neighbor.
Now the Chesterfield City Council is proposing an ordinance that would prevent Schenberg from shooting the squirrels and protecting his property.
“That is a right granted by the Missouri Constitution and it cannot be taken away by a local government for any reason,” said Schenberg.
Attorney Dave Roland says Schenberg is right. “Article 1 Section 23 of the Missouri Constritution speciafically says the right of every citizen to bear arms in defense of their homes, person or property shall not be questioned,” said Roland.
Roland is the Director of Litigation for the Non-Partisan Freedom Center of Missouri. He says if the city of Chesterfield wants to restrict firearms they need to re-work the bill’s language.
“If the bills language was framed as we don’t want hunting in our city limits that might survive judicial scrutiny,” said Roland.
Chesterfield police say the proposal is meant to protect citizens.
Captain Steven Lewis said,”You are still protected by the Castle doctrine. You are able to protect your life and property under state law, our city ordinace will still support that however; we are trying to make sure people aren’t firing weapons in residential areas.”
Schenberg hasn’t seen a squirrel since October. He also doesn’t want to see the day his constitutional rights are violated.
Hat Tip Ed
UPDATE: (Wednesday AM) This came from Attorney Dave Rolandin last night:
Hey Jim,
Just wanted to offer a clarification to your blog post about the Chesterfield Firearms Ordinance. The Chesterfield police officer was dead wrong. The ordinance does not differentiate between shooting at squirrels or shooting at humans. It preserves the right to use a firearm in defense of human live or livestock, but it explicitly prohibits using a firearm in defense of crops or other property. Chesterfield’s City Attorney circulated a memo (see page 2 of the attached document) specifically stating that it would prohibit the use of a firearm in defense of one’s home. Even where the ordinance makes reference to the state’s Castle Doctrine statute, it ONLY references the part about defending one’s person from attack – it leaves out the part about defending one’s property. Based on the City’s own documents, the City’s current explanation of the ordinance is misleading at best, and at worst is an outright lie.
Respectfully,
Dave Roland
Director of Litigation
Freedom Center of Missouri
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Patrick commented:
‘I’m not pro-gun, I’m anti-varmint’ – Some guy
Patty commented:
There are services out there to get the critters out of your home or off your property. I happen to love most animals.
Anyway we called a service and they are regulated and have to obey the laws. They take the animals into the country and turn them loose. This is more humane and here it is the law.
And shooting any gun in a residential area is wrong. People could get hurt. You can go to a shooting range but as far as infestation off animals, you should never take this on, on your own.
Militant Conservative commented:
Get a Gammo “whisper”. .177 pellet going around
1250 feet per second. Dead squirrel and whisper
quite. Nosey neighbors got nothing to complain about.
Powder is dry cuz there isn’t any.
Militant Conservative commented:
Patty, attitudes like yours is why America is in
Decline.
Patty commented:
#4
Sorry, you feel that way. But here if you are shooting guns in the neighborhood you go to jail.
That is my point.
You are being funny.
Patty commented:
If I were some of you I would check your city ordinances. Because I would hate to see anyone locked up.
Militant Conservative commented:
No I’m not, Americans have become wimps.
A pellet gun is a tool, effective and quite.
Too many are just plain sissies.
I will ignore the laws till the leaders abide by them.
Something tells me Patty lives in a blue state.
FU#K OBAMA commented:
Patty: Controlling squirels is hardly a crime. I have had to make thousands in repairs due to those pesky critters. A pellet rifle is a good sensible choice to affordably get rid of them. If you don’t want to shoot one then don’t but your attitude that government can stop someone from protecting his property is so totally out of line it is not even ‘funny’.
When I shoot the squirrels I never shoot them in a tree and always make sure there is a good backstop should I miss. A .177 pellet does the trick and the squirrels actually begin to realize that your yard is off limits after several are killed.
Too bad you wish to impose your libtard views on every law abiding homeowner.
Patty commented:
Va. legislators OK use of BB guns on private property
http://hamptonroads.com/2011/02/va-legislators-ok-use-bb-guns-private-property
Now, if there is an intruder and I have my rifle or any other gun, I will shoot to kill. They need to step in door first.
But when it comes to shooting squirrels, possums maybe you can but I will first call a service. And that is what we did.
Militant Conservative commented:
Patty, the cops in my neighborhood know better
Than to mess around my home.
Quote “anyone who flies the Texas state flag in
Georgia has got plenty of guns, and does not need
Our help”. Rugged individualism built America.
Reliance on “gubment” makes the individual weak.
retire05 commented:
Patty, are you aware that a squirrel is just a cute, fat, fuzzy rat? They are part of the rodent family, and they can create as much damage as rats, or mice, if they infect your home. Also, in most neighborhoods they have no natural predator, often producing as many as 8 offspring per year who also become able to breed within a year. So, in two years, you could have 100 cute little fuzzy squirrels living in your attic. But if you don’t mind the noise, and the squirrel crap all over your attic, they do have a penchant for deer corn.
So you have your attic infested with those cute little fuzzy rodents, and by the time you discover them, they have chewed up everything in your attic to build nests in order to have their young. Now you have destroyed property and squirrel crap all over your attic. But being the kind heart you are, you pay to have them captured and moved to the country where they will not only continue to reproduce, but die by starvation and move right back into your attic, or be eaten by predators. Either way, those cute little fuzzie creatures are going to die.
Why should anyone have to pay to have their homes, infested with a big, fuzzy rodent, cleaned out?
Patty commented:
#8 January 10, 2012 at 1:02 pm
FU#K OBAMA commented:
________________
We have had to do the same. Our installation in crawl space was all over the place. The bathroom dry wall is gone. And I hate to say this but yes, someone here used a pellet gun and got no where fast. Okay, this is for MilitantConservative, FYI.
I had and Uncle who was shot with a BB gun. He had to undergo surgery. Later in his life he got cancer and where. In the intestines where he was shot. So, you can see why I wish people would call a service.
retire05 commented:
Sign at Patty’s neighbor’s house:
Attention Squirrels:
The people next door will pay to have you removed and relocated to a nice country estate where you will be attacked by cayotes or die from starvation due to over population.
Militant Conservative commented:
Patty, no you shoot to remove the threat.
Shoot to kill will have you in jail. Semantics
But a lawyers wet dream
bg commented:
++
as if he were the first & only..
Please Dear God, Help US..
we just don’t seem to have the
sense to help ourselves.. *sigh*
==
retire05 commented:
Jeeze, now there is a corrolation between gun shot wounds and cancer?
Who the hell breds these idiots?
bg commented:
++
re: #15 January 10, 2012 at 1:13 pm bg
oops, wrong thread..
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Patty commented:
#11 January 10, 2012 at 1:08 pm
retire05 commented:
____________
Preaching to the choir. Yes I am very aware of the reproducing at record speed.
Those nasty varmints.
They are cute to watch. We had to put a fencing of sorts on the gutter areas. We believe we had possums. The service came out and correct it but now, after 3 years we heard something else. Believe me I would love to blast the living daylights out of the animal. But I won’t. If we can get rid of it great because they carry many diseases.
Patty commented:
#13 January 10, 2012 at 1:11 pm
retire05 commented:
Sign at Patty’s neighbor’s house:
Attention Squirrels:
The people next door will pay to have you removed and relocated to a nice country estate where you will be attacked by cayotes or die from starvation due to over population.
______________
EdBigCon commented:
Oh nuts! Squirrels chew through electrical wires… and burn down $400,000 home
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1298984/Squirrels-chew-electrical-wires–burn-luxury-400-000-home.html
Patty commented:
#16 January 10, 2012 at 1:14 pm
retire05 commented:
Jeeze, now there is a correlation between gun shot wounds and cancer?
Who the hell breds these idiots?
_______________________
That is not what I was saying. It just was a “thought” I shared. Sad, you have to turn this into a smart allic conversation. correlation I think this is what you meant to say.
Patty commented:
#20 January 10, 2012 at 1:20 pm
EdBigCon commented:
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Yes, that is what we feared. We couldn’t shot into the walls. So, we called professionals.
Patty commented:
#10 January 10, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Militant Conservative commented:
Patty, the cops in my neighborhood know better
Than to mess around my home.
Quote “anyone who flies the Texas state flag in
Georgia has got plenty of guns, and does not need
Our help”. Rugged individualism built America.
Reliance on “gubment” makes the individual weak.
_________________________
Wow, the cops in my neighborhood know better
Than to mess around my home.
What the h are you talking about?
Carlos commented:
This nation deserves the fate we are currently suffering. Not in my worst nightmares would I ever have predicted that this nation would turn into such insufferable pu$$ies. Shoot the f’in squirrels; it’s no big deal. Don’t like me shooting? Then stay off my property, lefty libs, and wimps. And that means you, too, cops.
Patty commented:
#24
Carlos
What the H! Really, cops, too?
I am Legion commented:
Yeah…that’s what we need are more regulations. Not!
If you want to curtail the squirrel problem then stop feeding the birds. This will also diminish the number of woodpeckers taking up residence next to their favorite feeder & the subsequent tree destruction.
also – i believe ‘the one who keeps his powder dry’ is onto something; a well placed shot w/ a pellet traveling that fast would actually be a very humane way to deal with a tree rat.
Patty commented:
#14 January 10, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Militant Conservative commented:
Patty, no you shoot to remove the threat.
Shoot to kill will have you in jail. Semantics
But a lawyers wet dream
________________________
Well, a cop is train to shoot for the chest. I hope my aim is that good.
Patty commented:
But then again, we are talking Squirrels here.
dmacleo commented:
I hate cities/urban areas.
had a bunch last year. one day 5 were clumped in tree 80feet away or so and would not shut the hell up.
needed to check grouping (test firing) of centurion amm-820 ammo at distance (to set my fire zones) so I gave the clump one round.
I don’t have a squirrel problem.
the tree recovered ok this year.
I think it was mentally screwed up a bit though…
jimg commented:
Shoot, shovel and shut up.
The end.
Patty commented:
#26 January 10, 2012 at 1:31 pm
I am Legion commented:
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I don’t feed the birds but they love to eat things in the yard. We did have a woodpecker problem also. The internet said to place foil on the side of your house where the pecking was.
I did and no more woodpecker.
I don’t want to shoot into my walls. So, again as I have said I call a service and they help to solve the problem.
Laws are very different in some states. So, before anyone goes a shooting and breaks the laws and decides to take on the police, you better check out the laws or YOU ARE GOING TO JAIL.
dmacleo commented:
my method above also works on woodpeckers.
also works on some human peckers in the area I dislike.
I am Legion commented:
“….and the squirrels actually begin to realize that your yard is off limits after several are killed.”
I disagree. If they’re hungry they’ll eat bird seed alongside their dead buddy lying adjacent to ‘em.
Blacque Jacques Shellacque commented:
Chesterfield Grants Citizens the Right to Protect Home from Intruders…
When I saw this, my first thought was, “How is a cigarette mixed up in all this?”
Just goes to show how old I am, doesn’t it?
retire05 commented:
#21, “Sad, you have to turn this into a smart allic conversation. correlation I think this is what you meant to say.”
Aleck. I this this is what you meant to say.
Pot, meet kettle.
retire05 commented:
Ummm, guess Patty never heard of live traps.
Patty commented:
#35 January 10, 2012 at 1:50 pm
retire05 commented:
#21, “Sad, you have to turn this into a smart allic conversation. correlation I think this is what you meant to say.”
Aleck. I this this is what you meant to say.
Pot, meet kettle.
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Look I have no fight to pick with you, I am just stated my opinions. I notice many of you cowboys are still living in the Wild Wild West. You just can go shooting and yes, you still can protect your property, but this is 2012. There are laws in each state and no matter how tough and ready a man is, you still must obey the laws.
Militant Conservative commented:
Cops were dressed in all black and hiding
In the trees behind my home to try and
catch vandals breaking windows of homes
On the golf course. They requested that I
Know this and to not shoot them. LOL
Got night vision now, no problem!
Patty commented:
#36 January 10, 2012 at 1:55 pm
retire05 commented:
Ummm, guess Patty never heard of live traps.
_____________________________
That’s exactly why I called professionals.
Patty commented:
Yet, MilitantConservative,
The Black ops guys are watching you.
Patty commented:
#33
Duke C commented:
Patty, are you sure the tim foil in on the side of your house or are you wearing it on your head? I live in St. Louis County,unicorperated, and I have problems w/squirrels. A scoped .177 pelet rifle w/cheap K-mart scope, fired from open window sniper style, fewer squirrels, and NOT illegal. Chesterfield, MO also has a mountain lion roaming around the White/Conway Roads area. Photo snapped of it last Christmas ’10. How would defend your toy poodle if fifi was attacked?
Joe Blow commented:
Had to check the name of the guy that wants to shoot the squirrels to see if he was an old neighbor of ours in Chesterfield. Another twisted individual all together. The old neighbor, lived in the woods would shoot the squirrels, birds he didn’t like and neighbor kids playing basketball. Even shot at us while we were working in the woods, ours not his. Why move where there are trees and complain about the squirrels and birds. Kind of like the people that move next to a lake and complain about the Canadian geese. Move to a condo. I bet the guy lets his dogs run through the neighbors yard and doesn’t mind that. Wanting a law suit for this matter..a little off perhaps?
Patty commented:
#42 Duke
Yes, the aliens are coming for you.
Also, professional hunters who work in the very thing you are speaking.
But you need to keep your poodle indoors because if the aliens don’t get it the lion will.
Patty commented:
#43 January 10, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Joe Blow commented:
Well, I love my guns. But in the hands of nuts, and not the squirrels, idiots complete idiots. Breaking the law is fine for them they have their guns. Irresponsible morons who seem to believe they can shoot at anything and everything.
Sasja commented:
There have always been squirrels where I live and have never had a problem with them getting into the attic or chewing wires, etc. Neither have my neighbors. Maybe because our dogs keep them too busy to do damage to our homes. It’s a hoot to open the door and watch my dogs take out after those cute, but potentially damaging, rodents.
Patty commented:
#36 January 10, 2012 at 1:55 pm
retire05 commented:
Ummm, guess Patty never heard of live traps.
__________________
Tried that but thanks for your expertise.
Rob Crawford commented:
“Schenberg hasn’t seen a squirrel since October.”
Hibernation. They’ll be back.
Rob Crawford commented:
Where they either over-run the countryside, die quickly at the claws of a predator, or die slowly from starvation.
More humane!
Patty commented:
#46 January 10, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Sasja commented:
Our dog died and after that we starting to have problems. This neighborhood, the homes are very close together. But the real problem is we have wood siding and we need to get vinyl.
The structure of your home makes a big difference. Brick would be even better.
Patty commented:
#49
That was what I was told. I suppose they may just kill them as soon as they get to their destination. The service that is. Really, people.
I had a problem, rather than shoot at it, I called professionals.
Duke C commented:
Jim Hoft;
I know you are busy blogging and doing the TEA Party thing, but that council you have in Chesterfield fired good fire chiefs and put in a less than qualified one from another suburb.
Post-Dipatch had pictures of angry residents at meeting last month, wonder if you care to comment about it? I think it had something to do with D and R type politics.
RedBeard commented:
When my neighbor’s sheep would come over and eat my wife’s flowers, my pellet gun worked wonders. Three pumps was enough pressure to sting their backsides and make them run home.
I often thought the same thing might work on the idiot neighbor himself, but his wife divorced him and tossed him out, sheep and all, so I missed my chance to find out.
Sasja commented:
Well, Patty, we do have brick homes where I live now, but the house I used to own was wood and I never had a problem there. At that time, we had a neighbor, a really nice, old guy, and he was having a problem with squirrels raiding his pecan trees. Well, he took his .22 and started shooting at them. No big deal, except he was missing the squirrels and shooting out windows in cars and other houses. It was comical in a way. He was asked to stop by those of us in the firing line, but he continued on. We then called the local constibulary and they came out and had a talk with him. No citations were issued or anything like that. He stopped shooting, we replaced our windows and life went on.
Patty commented:
#54
Sasja
Maybe not ordinance where you live. First to lock him up you need witnesses. He could have killed someone. Someone could have gone to prosecutor’s office and file a warrant.
But obvious no ordinance or public isn’t aware. I would never call cops but he was a danger to himself and others all the same.
Militant Conservative commented:
Patty, I was a spook. Joe flatfoot cop is not on my
Intellect level. I drive whatever speed I want.
I scramble cops ability to detect my speed.
I also scramble cops ability to detect the former.
I live in a different world, I do not accept the
parameters currently in place. Sheep is what the
Masses are. I am the wolf.
Sasja commented:
Patty, we didn’t want him arrested or locked up, but he needed to stop and since he wouldn’t after we asked him to, we decided it was best to let someone in authority talk to him to get him to stop. Which they did. Very nicely and with respect. You know, I don’t think he ever hit one squirrel, but he took out about 7 windows.
Patty, you need to lighten up.
Sasja commented:
Militant. I can tell your intellectual level by reading your posts.
Sasja commented:
#56 forgot to add “I am the wind.”
Militant Conservative commented:
Bite me pathetic human.
P.S. Half the posts while working in the OR.
TiminPhx commented:
Militant, YOU with that last post, the nutty #56 one, show yourself to be a SQUIRREL.
RedBeard commented:
Shooting a .22 into the trees with houses nearby is idiotic. A .22 slug is dangerous for a very long distance, and is not, despite what TV teaches us, a toy. If the old boy had used his head, and bought .22 ratshot ammo (with lots of small pellets) then there wouldn’t have been a problem.
RedBeard commented:
I drive whatever speed I want, as well. Trouble is, the Florida Highway Patrol troopers don’t agree with me on that point, and have proven it a few times.
Militant Conservative commented:
Thus proving you cannot conceive of the realities
That exist due to technology.
Your ignorance is secure.
dunce commented:
He said all the squirrels are gone now, that must mean he practices real good gun control and does not miss.
Militant Conservative commented:
Redbeard. http://Www.rockymountainradar.com
Model Phantom T
WillofLa commented:
I think originally, Mr. Schenberg’s neighbor should just mind his own damn business, and keep his nose out of everyone else’s.
I think that what Mr. Schenberg is doing is just fine. And you don’t even have to kill the little bastards. I have full grown Pecan trees in my back yard and when the squirrels attack those trees in the Summer when the Pecan’s begin to get big, not even near ready to eat because that doesn’t happen until October and November when the ripe Pecans start to fall. But what the squirrels are after are those green Pecan’s and they are eating just the fat juicy hulls, not the developing Pecan inside. They start eating those hulls and they drop pieces and parts of hulls literally by the pound onto the ground in my back yard. In order to pick all those pieces up, because if I leave them on the ground they acidfy the ground in my back yard to the point where my St. Augustine grass won’t grow at all. So I pick up all the pieces up for the next three or four months every day in order to make sure I’ve got them all. Even to the point where I use my big “shop vac” to suck the pieces up.
But in order to keep the litter down in my yard of all the pieces the squirrels drop while they are fattening up for the Winter, my son and I get out in the yard and pop the hell out of up to six squirrels at one time that there can be in those two big trees. Shooting straight up into the trees doesn’t endanger any of my neighbors whatsoever. By the time the BB falls somewhere it’s going so slow that if it hit someone it would just bounce harmlessly off of them. We’re talking about an object that weighs just a fraction of an ounce. Yeah, it may be going fast at first when you shoot it but after that the speed slows down significantly, especially if it bounces off a limb or something. But we have popped the hell out of these squirrels and once we run them out of the Pecan trees, into the Oak trees in my neighbor’s back yards, and our guns can reach way out to thirty or forty yards away we’ll be popping them, or right next to the limb they are sitting on.
But I have warned my son not to pump up his BB gun beyond three times because I don’t want the squirrels killed, I just want them run out of my trees. And popping them doesn’t hurt them, it makes them jump a bit, and then they start running fast to get out of my trees. And they don’t come back for several hours, and not all of them come back either. As soon as I start seeing a few pieces of hull begin to fall again I know there’s one of those little pests up there and time to get the BB guns out again. The dogs love it when I start shooting because they know I’m shooting at something they love to eat, and they are just waiting for something to fall, which has happened before. And as soon as the squirrel hits the ground those dogs are on them in a second. So the dogs know when they see me come out of the house with a BB gun they know what’s about to happen. And shooting at them keeps them out of my house to.
Militant Conservative commented:
61. Sorry your ability to absorb easily available
Technology and procedures is beyond your grasp.
This is why America is at risk, simple minds
Are in the majority. See, your a majority.
Atticus commented:
#56, Militant Conservative
>>”Patty, I was a spook”<<
…and now you've been promoted to Kook, congratulations.
Atticus commented:
“In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn’t commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them….maybe you can hire The A-Team”
Hmmm…now MC’s comments makes sense.
RedBeard commented:
The problem with radar detectors is that they don’t work on the “eye-in-the-sky” speed cops. This is a problem. The way I see it, the gas pedal wouldn’t go all the way to the floor if it wasn’t supposed to.
But never fear. The safety patrol boys at GM saw to it that my truck has a governor that pegs out at 85. And this was before Obama bought the company (with our confiscated money). No telling how safe things are now, with Boy Wonder in charge. Well, except for the GM cars that explode, that is.
Militant Conservative commented:
Sorry many of you have no military background.
Google EP-3E Orion, skunkworks, Cobra Dane,
Coba Judy, A3-skywarrior, RC-135, and TR-1.
Ignorant self-absorbed pricks. Some of us live
Lives you others only exist because others keep
You safe. Pathetic sheep.
valerie commented:
#2 January 10, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Patty commented:
“…And shooting any gun in a residential area is wrong.”
This is indeed one part of the analysis, probably the most important part. Before you can insist on your right to use a gun, you have to consider whether the ammunition can reach and harm your neighbors.
My kids have pellet (both airsoft and paintball) guns. When they and their friends get in the mood, they make a lot of racket, and the neighbors have never turned a hair. Perhaps that’s because our house backs up to a canyon full of scrub and coyotes. No doubt it helps that the target is set up against my back wall. I’m fairly certain, however, that I would hear about it immediately if either paint or pellets were ever to show up in any of my neighbors’ yards, and I am sure my kids know what would then happen to all their equipment in that event.
All that said, there’s no need to use a gun to get rid of squirrels. There’s such a thing as a “wrist rocket” – a high powered slingshot. Some of them even have sights. They are available on the web, and they are not difficult to use. They’re perfect for running off squirrels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x9K4YHF0WM
Patty commented:
#57 January 10, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Sasja commented:
Patty, we didn’t want him arrested or locked up, but he needed to stop and since he wouldn’t after we asked him to, we decided it was best to let someone in authority talk to him to get him to stop. Which they did. Very nicely and with respect. You know, I don’t think he ever hit one squirrel, but he took out about 7 windows.
Patty, you need to lighten up.
______________________
I am one of the most sweetest people you could know. Yes, I have to say that because everyone tells me this. They all can’t be wrong. The old guy put out windows and could have hurt someone inside.
Maybe someone in your family. And I have the law on my side.
Patty commented:
#74
Valerie
My point remains. Unless this is the Wild West, which it isn’t, there are City ordinances. Public is often unaware. I am saying this not to fight with any one of you. My comment is to make people aware of the law. And no one is above the law, other than Obama.
It is not my intentions to disregard our second amendment rights with Criminal Holder wishes to take away. We own many guns and we are very experience in the use and safety of them.
I understand men wanted to be all MACHO and shoot it first ask questions later but hopefully, with darn luck I suppose they won’t get caught breaking the law, if there are such laws in their place of residency. Out in the Country who cares but close to other homeowners is asking for trouble.
Patty commented:
#61 January 10, 2012 at 3:23 pm
TiminPhx commented:
Militant, YOU with that last post, the nutty #56 one, show yourself to be a SQUIRREL.
Patty commented:
This was suppose to be a quite day on the blog. It was never my intentions to rile some up here.
I know Americans love their guns. And I love mine. They are for protection. Pellets guns are fun in a responsible hand just like guns.
Anyway if those in the city above don’t like the ordinance then change the wording and vote.
Whatever it takes. But I still stand by MY comments. I still have the right to express my opinions or as Obama gotten to you.
Patty commented:
#69 January 10, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Atticus commented:
#56, Militant Conservative
>>”Patty, I was a spook”<<
…and now you've been promoted to Kook, congratulations.
____________________
It must be fun to play like a bunch of babies. Real mature.
Sasja commented:
#73. Col Flagg, is that you?
RS commented:
These morons need the see the tens of thousands of dollars in damage these well-dressed rats can cause in a home.
And oh-by-the-way, Allstate Home Insurance, regardless of what they say in their commercials, does not cover it.
Patty commented:
#81
RS
I have seen the damage first hand. Our Home. And for then insurance companies many are scoundrels and crooks. But after we pay premium it wasn’t worth calling ours.
Patty commented:
I still think the Black ops are circling!
Patty commented:
“Warning this is Graphic”.
Super Bowl to air graphic abortion ad during game
http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=12823
Patty commented:
#84
is off topic. And it is definitely more serious and worse than shooting squirrels.
Patty commented:
One last comment here, it does bring things back into perspective.
Sasja commented:
I like my insurance company. Of course have only had one claim. Hail damage. But they were johnny-on-the-spot with the check. Replaced the entire roof right down to the rafters. Even covered an old broken down shed in the back.
Patty commented:
Sasja
Same thing happen here.
Justamom commented:
I live in Chesterfield and am mailing a letter to the city tomorrow.
I will also attend the mtg.
This is ridiculous.
My father, also in Chesterfield, paid $1,600 today- this very day!-
to have squirrels removed from his attics.
I think Chesterfield should give people credit for not being
morons as far as pellet gun use is concerned, and resist
all urges to become a “nanny govt”.
Militant Conservative commented:
Patty, I’m sorry you live in such a small world. Many of us that have served in the military
never shot or qualified with a firearm. EWOP was my designation. Electronic Warfare
Operator on an EP-3E Orion, also served in the intel department when I broke my leg.
Pathetic little housewives with no exposure to the vast world beyond the kitchen.
I have since gotten trained with firearms by some of the best in the business.
Look what freedoms your willing to throw away. I find you verbose and about as
interesting as watching grass grow. Just because some of us have secured your
freedoms to speak does not mean we have to listen to your prattle.
Your ignorance of the reality you live in explains why America is in decline.
NoSpam ForMe commented:
The neighbor said in the paper that his house has never been hit with a pellet. No one has ever reported being nit with a pellet either. The fear is based on what “might” happen. You don’t pass laws that strip rights on what “might” happen.
Go to http://www.ThisIsWrong.net and see what you can do to help stop this gross injustice.