Figures. Liberal Court Will Allow Pick Ax Mining in Montana But Only If You Feed Your MULES Weed-Free Hay
Posted by Jim Hoft on Saturday, December 24, 2011, 11:18 AM
Who says liberals are anti-progress?
Who says liberals are anti-mining?
You can mine all you want… You just have to use a pick ax and can only feed your mule weed-free hay.
The liberal 10th Circuit Court of Appeals decided this week to allow mining at a national forest in Montana – But only if you use pick axes and only if your mules are fed weed-free hay.
Townhall reported:
Last week environmental groups hailed a decision from the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals that upheld a law prohibiting roads on nearly 50 million acres of national forest. Lawyers for the Colorado and Wyoming Mining Associations contend that the 2001 Roadless Area Conservation Rule violated the law. Previous conflicting federal court rulings have both upheld and overturned the road-building ban.
Jane Danowitz, director of the Pew Environmental Group’s U.S. public lands program acknowledges that the roadless rule blocks “logging, drilling and industrial development.”
Expressing disappointment with the decision, Stuart Sanderson, President of the Colorado Mining Association said, “The decision does not reflect a practical understanding of the impact that the rule will have upon mining jobs or access to needed minerals here in Colorado and the U.S. It is important to develop high quality coal and other mineral reserves, both to ensure our nation’s energy security and reduce our dependence on minerals produced in other countries.”
How does this roadless decision impact mining and jobs?
In Montana’s Finley Basin there are known tungsten deposits. An Australian company wanted to bring revenue and jobs to the state by developing the resource. While the property was successfully drilled and recognized by Union Carbide in the seventies, it is now about 200 yards inside a roadless study area. The Forest Service was willing to offer a conditional drilling permit. Among the conditions were these requirements:
- The drill sites must be cleared using hand tools,
- The drilling equipment and fuel must be transported to the site by a team of pack mules,
- The mules must be fed certified weed-free hay, and
- Drill site and trail reclamation must be done using hand tools.
The company gave up.
Let’s face it. Liberals hate this country and want you to live in mud huts.
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Remco Kimber commented:
Yikes. Our past points to our future by being our future with no changes allowed.
This court worships at the altar of ludditism.
“The principal objection of the Luddites was to the introduction of new wide-framed automated looms that could be operated by cheap, relatively unskilled labour, resulting in the loss of jobs for many skilled textile workers.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite
neverends commented:
The lefty commies have made this country WORSE than a second-rate third world country. I cannot even imagine what the USA will be like if Alinskyite in the WH gets another term!
Big Bob commented:
I am as far to the right as anyone with one exception, the environment; and no, I don’t mean the Global Warming baloney. As an avid outdoorsman, I am sick and tired of seeing the landscape needlessly torn up and subsequently polluted when other means are available for extracting resources or even alternatives for what ever the need be. Not to mention, going miles into the untracked/untamed wilderness only to see platic bottles, bags and assorted other trash littering the landscape.
I am a champion of perserving as much wilderness/waterfront property as we can from development, etc. We simply have enough land already in use or that can be rehabed for what ever reason, including many mining areas closed by previous lib action, etc. Color me lib here, but I support the court (except for the ridiculous ‘weed free’ hay bit; typical take-it-too-far lib ruling)
Patty commented:
The articles here get more absurd day after day. This is further reason we need a president who can set the liberals straight.
Are nation is dying a slow and painful death. This Australian Company just gave up. Oh, I just can’t believe that the Coal industry has to endure this nonsense because of progressives taken over our energy productivity.
Coal is cheap, states depend on this and they have to go through hoops in order to bring to families the cheapest source of energy.
XL pipeline now this, other nations wish to come here but not now, under this dictatorship.
BurmaShave commented:
Exhibit A for Gingrich’s argument about off-the-rails legislatin’ judges.
IronDioPriest commented:
I know I get redundant when stuff like this comes up, but I think it needs to be said.
What should happen now is for the states of Montana and Wyoming to assure mining operations that they have the full support of the state from an administrative perspective as well as from a law enforcement perspective, and that the federal government will not be allowed to persecute or prosecute them. Then the mining operations should go ahead and start mining under the protection of their state government, as if the federal government has no authority over what happens in their state.
Force the issue of states rights by states partnering with businesses in defiance of federal bureaucratic and judicial edicts that are not strictly underpinned by federal legislation. Force the feds to either justify laws that do not originate in congress, or move tanks into sovereign states in order to enforce bureaucratic edicts and judicial usurpations.
Patty commented:
OT
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donh commented:
A$$es with an axe to grind.
Buffalobob commented:
“Let’s face it. Liberals hate this country and want you to live in mud huts”. Actually they the progs want you I to live in mud huts. They however will continue to live in multiple mansions. AlGore, Pelosi, Reed, Kennedy, Rockefeller, Soros, Gates, Turner and all of the Hollywood nitwits.
Daisy commented:
What? No rules on mule breeding? I think they missed an opportunity here.
zooomzooom commented:
shovel ready jobs Americans won’t do……………
but the jackass part, somebody get a feed bag on nancy pelosi, she may turn out useful after all!!! whodathunkit??!!!??!!!
Greg commented:
Large scale manufacturing, the kind that generates lot of employees for unions to represent, lots of deep pockets for lawyers to pillage, lots of property taxes for politicians, lots of employment taxes to mismanage, really good medical insurance coverage to exploit….take planning periods that exceed the Washington turn over in political party in control. The US cannot make the investment in quality jobs because scores of bureaucrats can shut down the progress for no more reason than to refuse to talk to there coworker. The requirement for weed free hay is just lipstick on an ugly pig.
There is a large natural resource disaster taking place across the western United States called the pine beetle. The feds in their management have no plan to address the deforestation of Federal lands. There is no permit they can issue to the beetles to tell them to stop chewing. They are not equipped with the planning skills to develop pesticides or harvest strategies. Private business recognizes the pine beetle as protected by the bureaucratic ineptitude and not a valid area of work. The environmentalists are responsible for this diasaster
Jet Jaguar commented:
Left unchecked, there is no area of life to which Government will leave unclaimed for itself to be the final authority and granter of privilege.
#1AMERICAN commented:
Just wait when odumbo gets elected and he appoints more lib-turds to the supreme court…you can kiss your guns goodbye
WillofLa commented:
No, what needs to be done is come up with a law that says liberal environmentalists violate the right of a business to freely pursue lawful business practice that provides natural resources to the nation at minimal damage to the environment. If the liberals can’t disprove that mining company is going to do that, and is going into the public land just to screw it up with sloppy mining practices, then the court has to allow the mining company to be able to go anywhere it wants. These “roadless” laws are unconstitutional because they prohibit a lawful company from pursuing a legal business venture. But, it’s ridiculous to sue a company that environmentalists believe are messing up the environment, because they couldn’t prove the mining company wasn’t going to do the mining in a irresponsible manner. If they were they would have to be allowed to do whatever they want.
This is the sort of liberalism that needs to be turned against liberals by finding something they do and force them to do it manually and see how they like it. People who are a lot smarter than I am would know what those things are because I don’t know what liberals do that is like everyone else that you could force them to do manually, and if you did they would have to stop doing it because it would be to hard to do that way just like building roads with pick axes would be to hard and labor intensive at to high a cost to build a road that would take years to build by hand. That’s what liberals want and that is for all of us go back to horse and buggy days in everything while they live it up in any and all high tech manner they choose.
WillofLa commented:
See, liberals are so “enlightened” that anything they do is good for the environment because of their “good intentions” that we couldn’t possibly possess.
bitterclinger commented:
Newt was right. These type of idiotic judges should be removed from office for “making law out of thin air”. You Just Know they didn’t think this up, some envio-wacko group got to them. This isn’t Law, it’s politics disguised as law.
srdem65 commented:
“Weed free hay”. huh. Is there a “Hay Inspector”? The Feds allow so many mouse droppings and bug parts in people food, but mules must have pristine feed. Of course.
WillofLa commented:
You tree huggers want to see the result of excessive environmentalism? Look at Canada. Fifteen million people are only allowed to live and work in certain areas of the country. You can’t have more kids or move people into the country because then it would cause more roads to be built into areas of wilderness to build more houses. Consequently no one moves to Canada and the people aren’t having any kids. Zero population control and environmentalism is the perfect control over the people in order to justify any and all liberal restrictions on progress. So Canada has to import things they have plenty of because liberals won’t let them mine or do forestry jobs or anything that would take the damn “wilderness” away from a handful of people who want to see no trace of man.
See, that’s what liberals really want and that is to eliminate everyone except them. See, they want people gone, dead, forever so that the rest of the world will go back to nature and they can live in harmony with nature and not ever want for nothing. Yeah, right. What, just like they live now? They live just as modern as the rest of us. They are nothing but hipocrits.
Ipso Facto commented:
The last line of this post says, “Let’s face it. Liberals hate this country and want you to live in mud huts.”
Here’s something else to face. The Republicans (my affiliation) are doing a poor job of messaging and they are making the election of Obama more and more probable every day.
Every time Obama gets a chance to speak he gets his points across and he knocks the Republicans, however absurd he may be. Obama also has such a sophisticated new media campaign. We, on the other hand, have leaders who can hardly write with chalk on the blackboard and whenever a prominent Republican speaks, the message is either too complicated or vague and they never stick it to Obama. They are organized and focused. We are divided and vague.
My point is this, we should immediately re-assess what we re doing. We can whine all day about the absurd mining restrictions in Montana, but calling people’s attention to such non-stories like this is detracting us from what we should be doing.
We should be demanding that the Republican party get its act together with respect to messaging and that they should stop their political shenanigans like this past week’s disaster. We can criticize Obama all we want, but until we get organized, put out a consistent and simple message and stop our whining – we are simply opening the door for Obama’s re-election.
Midwestengr commented:
Yes. There is weed free hay.
I’ve had to buy the certified weed free hay on my elk hunting trips out west for at least the last decade. It’s a pain in the rump, but take one trip say to Alabama and see all the kudzu grass down there and you can appreciate why they wouldn’t want an obnoxious weed in a pristine wilderness area. Where we hunt in the wilderness area of Colorado, Montana, and Wyoming, you also can’t use ANY motorized equipment. 4-Wheelers, generators, chainsaws, ANYTHING. Hence is why we take horses and mules to pack in, pack out, and ride so you don’t have to do all the walking. And yes, they do have folks that check for the use of certified only hay! Just ask my cousin all about when he decided to try to cheat the system and brought some hay up from Texas on one of his hunting trips!
Most of you that have been around awhile know, I am NO liberal, and I’m here to tell you I’m no Environmentalist, but this ruling is nothing new.
#12 Daisy, male mules are sterile so using them for breeding is out of the question.
Juan commented:
Please stop referring to them as “Liberals”. There is nothing “liberal” about these people.
Anything but Liberal!
Yurt Salesman commented:
If this keeps up, I won’t even need a subsidy!
Alana commented:
They hate this country, they want us living in mud huts, and they can’t mind their own business.
Their whole lives are based around telling other people what to do. About every. Little. Thing.
Taxpayer commented:
O. M. F. G.
That one takes the cake.
However, I would LOVE to see someone take up the challenge. Why not carry a bunch of C4 on some pack mules?
pagar commented:
“The decision does not reflect a practical understanding of the impact that the rule will have upon mining jobs or access to needed minerals here in Colorado and the U.S.
Leftists with a practical understanding–Never going to happen. Every thing they do is designed to get more union employees on government payrolls. Every day there are leftists complaining about the cost of retired military veterans. Yet a few months ago we learned of rabbit farmers facing 4 million dollars fines for some violation of the rabbit laws. We learned there are US federal government employees who do nothing but drive around looking for unlicensed rabbits. Now we learn that government employees drive around making sure that mules only eat weed free hay. What few American workers who actually work are going to be funding the retirement of government workers who have chased rabbits and checked hay for weeds all their careers. Can we as a nation afford this?
Daisy commented:
Midwesterng. Yes, I know that mules are sterile. But I’m sure there’s some bureaucrat who would try to regulate it anyway.
Gort commented:
Craig is one of those Lefties whomwants you to live in a mud hut. In my galaxy we have Leftards. They are confined in mental institutions and used for medical experiments. They are worth so much less than rats and the lab techs don’t attached to them.
Redwine commented:
And Comrade Barry the Luddite Moron wants to get rid of “job-killing” ATMs and airport kiosks. He said so – several times.
Soon we’ll move on to the horse and buggy, the scrub board and castile soap and operator phone calls.
Our great Republic will lay in total ruin if we don’t fight this crap back. It’s no joke. These people mean to be destructive.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
This needs to be appended for the any prospective (no pun intended) Muslim miner:
Amended: If you ejaculate into any mule, you cannot then sell the mule in your own village, but are free to sell the mule to any adjacent village.
This will satisfy both the Muslims and the depraved American Left.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
This does indeed take the cake. Like a last-minute effort to win some sick award for “Most Kafka-esque Ruling of the Year.
We still have a few days, folks. There will be stories to top this one in that category.
It’s like they’re all trying. Like they’re poking us with a stick, hoping for a reaction.
Indeed, it is. Because they are.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
This kind of stuff is how the freakin’ Holodomor began.
EXACTLY HOW.
Redwine commented:
Hey Taq (#32) – Did you notice that the regime lifted the bestiality ruling in the military? I think you’re onto something here about Muslims.
Big Al commented:
Right you are #23. Much as I detest this current EPA, this ruling has nothing to do with the mules but is designed to protect the flora of he national forest by keeping noxious weeds out. Better to scrap the whole stupid scheme IMO and just open sections up to well regulated mining.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Redwine, yes I did, and that was also, at the time, a contender for the Franz Kafka award I just made up (who knows, maybe it exists….I will check…).
That ruling has just been eclipsed by this one in the running.
I was just joking to those in the know with that first comment of mine.
My last pertains to what I really think is afoot.
The Holodomor happened for the same reasons as this, and with the same mind-numbing, intentionally and bombastically surreal rulings like this one. One after another and another and another for years, until the folks in charge — the regulation-writing agencies who write de-facto laws on their own with no oversight whatsoever all day long — realize that they can starve tens of millions of people with the stroke of a pen, sitting at a comfy desk.
This is what happens when we have so many of these regulatory agencies. They can write, and enforce, any regulation they write. In essence, regulations are LAWS. We have TENS of thousands of bureaucrats nationwide just writing rules and regulations, with no oversight and a complete collusion with the judiciary, as I said, ALL DAY LONG.
I thought laws were written by Congress.
Oh, yeah. That was in the United States of America, Democratic Constitutional Republic.
We are no longer in that nation.
Merry Christmas!! May God bless you all, and Jim — thank you greatly for this forum.
Redwine commented:
Exactly, Taq. We are no longer that great Republic – and we are being prevented from re-establishing it (hence my anger at the recent Virginia GOP primary nonsense).
Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to one and all.
Black Sabbath commented:
How will this be enforced?
Stuart commented:
“Liberals hate you and want you to live in mud huts”
No, I am coming to the conclusion that they don’t want us to live at all.
Endangered fish, turtles, and even insects are much more important than you or I will ever be.
Of course they exempt themselves from this proposition. THEY count, you don’t.
Alana commented:
You’re right on that, too, Stuart. They’d much prefer we didn’t live at all. And if we must, they want us to have as little food as possible, and use as little heat, etc. as possible. They hate humanity, and hate Americans with a particular passion.
What irritates me most is they also want us to have as little FUN as possible. Witness all the Christmas grinches who can’t stand for anyone else to have anything good.
kato commented:
Mules in Montana. Asses in Washington DC.
gus commented:
LIBTARD elites, do not mine. They do not work in private industry, they suck suck suck off of the taxpayer. And they schit all over the golden goose. US. They are ideological, stupid, and selfish. They have no morals, so they posture themselves as holier than thou. REPUBLICANS want dirty air and water and starving children. REPUBLICANS want GRANNY thrown off of a cliff. Yet, LIBTARDS do not support, respect nor understand how TAX MONEY that they spend on themselves and their compliant constituencies IS EARNED. It just arrives in their pay envelope or welfare check. FREE. This decision is based on ideology. The LEFT installs Judges who are as radical as they can find. Then they project their dishonesty on their opponents. But all along as LIBTARDS ruin and regulate the very industries that America needs for jobs and production, and the good paying jobs move away.
Then the LIBTARDS bitch about INDUSTRY not offering them jobs.
In short LIBTARDS are either EVIL or STUPID. Or a combination of both.
Kissmygrits commented:
The libs try to get bills passed by sticking ‘jobs’ somewhere in the title. Like a wilderness roads and jobs act. Most people read the title and assume it’s a good thing. The greenies go to court and claim that a project could or might hurt something in the environment and get a judge to agree. Newt is right that judges should be held accountable in some manner for their decisions such as having an actual law to back it up.
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