It Figures… UC Davis Students AGREED to Be Pepper Sprayed Before Incident (Video) …Update: UC Davis Pepper Spray Massacre Victims Giggled & Smiled Describing Torture

For the record…
The UC Davis students who were holding the illegal protest on campus last weekend were warned that they would be pepper sprayed by the campus police. Not only that… But you can see in the video below that the students AGREED in the video to be pepper sprayed.

For some reason this didn’t make it into any of the liberal media reports on the incident; just like the fact that the protesters were chanting “f*ck the police” never made it into any reports.
Via P/Oed Patriot:

From the video:

As a Policeman bends over to tell the “Leader” of the protesters that they are going to be sprayed, the “Leader” responds (At the very beginning of the video):

“Your shooting us specifically? No that’s fine, that’s fine.”

UPDATE: The UC Davis pepper spray massacre victims giggle and laugh describing historic torture session.

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  • CT

    Foolish move on the part of the college police, now these ‘entitled’ students have their Kent State moment. The college police allowed themselves to be set up in such an obvious way to be the villains. There must be another way to make life miserable for these privileged young Marxists in training.

  • AJ

    lols.. so if the protesters moved whenever the cops asked (which is everytime they pick a place to protest)… then what does a legal protest look like? An empty field?

    And please.. the chants for “f*ck the police” were never picked up more than a few of the group and quickly hushed by the group as a whole in favor of less offensive language.

    You did watch the whole video, right? Please tell me what you hear them chant as a group to the cops.. “Shame on you” from everyone for a couple minutes after the spraying.. and then “You can go” as the police begin to leave.

    To watch the video (and understand the students were sitting basically in the middle of a big field [not blocking anything functionally on campus at all]) and think the police reaction is appropriate is just disgusting.

    “Are you going to shoot us for just sitting here?” Oh yeah.. he’s just asking for it.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Theater. Aided and abetted by CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, FOXNews (yes, even them), NPR, and the rest of the Communist New American Pravda.

    The new, recreated “JournoList” is planned from the top, right into the Oval Office.

    Goebbels and Trotsky would be humbled by these demons. Absolutely humbled.

    Like Galileo and Copernicus meeting Einstein and Hawking.

    Satan is real, and stalks the earth, head held high with pride. His minions have no idea who they’re serving*: the Father of Lies. The Destroyer.

    *Well, some of them know exactly who they’re serving, and they are the Organizers — but most are useful, brainwashed, conditioned, programmed, and Oragnized complete idiots.

    And these will fill the mass graves, if they get the chance. It looks like they will be, since this nation is entirely W.R.O.L. (coined by Ann Barnhardt): Without Rule of Law. From baton-wielding New Black Panthers at polling places, to multiple thefts of trillions of taxpayer dollars; from a president whose legal qualifications are zero, to a black-on-nonblack crime-wave unprecedented in U.S. history.

    Whatever heinous, monstrous things the Statists want to do — at this point, nobody who can stop them will, and anybody who would stop them cannot.

    Get right with God, folks. We’re close to the “Great Lean Forward.”

    The avalanche has started — and the pebbles don’t have a vote.

  • OxyCon

    Also take notice that the police are encircled by the protesters…it isn’t just a few kids on a sidewalk…look closely. That fact is never mentioned by the media either. The protesters deliberately plotted and encircled the police to entrap them and obstruct them from doing their job, once the police started arresting people. They encircled the police, locked arms and sat down…it’s all in this self-incriminating interview with one of the kids who got pepper sprayed:
    http://boingboing.net/2011/11/20/ucdeyetwitness.html

  • Taqiyyotomist

    AJ, please don’t be like most trolls: stick around for your complete debunking.

    (Most of you just “drop trou”, poop, and run, I’ve noticed.)

  • Taqiyyotomist

    AJ: #4 OxyCon has begun your debunking.

    By comment #30, it will have been thorough.

    ::goes to grab popcorn::

  • Michael Curcio

    Has anybody raised kids? This is how you deal with children. You warn them of the consequences of not complying. Then if they still refuse to comply, you administer the consequences.

  • AJ

    The police aren’t really encircled… there were always ways out and officers walking in and out the whole time. The whole area is a big open field, and saying people were trapped is a huge joke to anyone familiar with the space. In fact, the famous sprayer guy walks from one side “circle trap” to the other with no problem at all just moments before spraying the line.

    This video is awesome actually. You get to see the difference between the two groups. The protesters get a bit inappropriate with some of their language (some people chanting “f*ck the police”), but are quickly corrected by the group at large and the bad behavior stopped. But when the police get inappropriate with their response (not simple the use of pepper-spray, but the quick jump to a gross immediate over-application).. the rest of their group does nothing to help.. again the protesters have to help the group by simply shaming the officer’s disgusting actions.

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  • AJ

    @Michael
    The kid raising analogy is interesting. I’d take it you hit your children when they are out of compliance? Not that there’s anything wrong with that. But just so you know.. that’s not the only effective way to train and build compliance.

  • Dianth

    @ AJ, did you have parents? Did they not discipline you? Disciplining kids w/ consequences can mean a variety of things and never requires hitting as you assumed. Time outs, losing a privilege and so on are all viable alternatives.

    I’m not really sure how these students can even be taken seriously. It’s hardly a Kodak moment that rises to the enormity of what happened at Kent State. I would call it small potatoes by wanna be Hippies in comparison. They need to get off of their collective asses and actually DO something for their cause.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    You’re right, AJ.

    There are also other punishments available.

    Like grounding.

    Like being made to write a chapter of Proverbs depending on the day of the month.

    Like restrictions from driving, or using the videogame console.

    Michael’s point remains true.

  • 11B40

    Greetings:

    Someday, may soon, some somewhat honest media mentalist may realize that these demonstrations are really disruptions and that they are not peaceful or even mostly peaceful but rather passive-aggressive.

    But not today.

  • Patty

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204443404577052382497733856.html

    Yet:

    WND
    Police chief put on leave in Occupy pepper spraying
    2 officers suspended after misting faces of seated protesters

    Read more: Police chief put on leave in Occupy pepper spraying http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=370213#ixzz1eSJeSl5F

  • JR

    Too bad they didn’t use mace.

  • Sally

    Oh, for goodness sake.

    They were even calling the campus officer by name. Theater it was, indeed.

  • Patty

    Cops warned that if they didn’t leave or whatever they would be sprayed. They didn’t listen. Breaking the law is one thing but respecting it, forget about it. Less respect for the cops but look who we are talking about, criminals and youth today who never learned to have respect for any authority figure.

  • AJ

    The students sat down after a couple of the protesters started being arrested. The group didn’t feel it was fair if only a few got arrested (who were basically picked randomly), so they decided to make the police remove them all.

    They weren’t trying to blockade anything… which is clear from the photos/videos, as they do nothing but sit, while officers walk freely from one side of the circle to the other.

    The officers claimed they wanted the tents removed… but the tents were basically removed already at the point of the spraying, and the sitting students weren’t making any effort to stop the police from removing the tents.

    I can get people not understanding the situation if you aren’t familiar with the area/situation. Just looking at dozens of often claustrophobic, poor angled, and/or disjointed footage of a busy event makes it hard to get a clear picture of the situation. What a person familiar with the physical space sees versus someone who’s not (and has to build limited version of that space based only on discount footage).

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Besides, this is pepper-spray.

    The whole world is laughing at Americans right now.

    They know what real brutality is.

    These OWSers would, if given control over the law enforcement in our nation, do FAR, FAR worse to objectors.

    Why do you think Huffington Post has to shut down comments whenever Dick Cheney is in the hospital for a finger operation? Because every single comment is a death-wish.

    Communism at its finest, coming soon.

    Mao killed 40 million Chinese people in only 4 years.

    Ask the common man in the street who Mao Tse Tung was. You get blank stares 90% of the time. The guy who murdered almost 4 times as many of his people as Hitler, and twice as many as Stalin. Why do most people only know Hitler as the World’s Greatest Mass Murderer? Because the Communist media and education system will never tell you anything evil about Communism. Why would they?

    I ask the OWSers: How many little children does Sarah Palin have to shoot in the face in front of their weeping, hysterical parents for their parents’ political views, for her to be as COOL as Che Guevara?? 5? 10? A hundred?

    The OWSers will do the same, when they get the chance. They are useful idiots.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    So, AJ, were you there then?

  • Taqiyyotomist

    #20

    And our Moby arrives, right on cue.

    Shaddup, Lefty.

  • Bloodless Coup

    It looks like the protestors agreed to be pepper sprayed because they knew they could use the incident as propaganda against the police. In any case, it’s pretty clear that they were warned and could have elected to cooperate with the police at instead of being sprayed.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    SADDAM USED ELECTRIC DRILLS ON SUSPECTED DISSENTERS AND FED PEOPLE TO STARVING DOGS FOR ENTERTAINMENT!

    And you stinking libs were just A-OK with that.

    You all need to just shut up. Seriously. You have no credibility.

  • AJ

    @Taqiyyotomist

    Yep.. I never had any gripes with Michael’s point (that punishing non-compliance can work to train for compliance).

    But my point remains too.. that there are different forms of punishment that can be effective.. and even more methods than just punishment for building compliance.

    I think that’s exactly what people hoped for here. I don’t think people are mad that the officers took further action to force compliance… it was just that their methods seemed to immediately escalate to levels not really warranted by the situation.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    You libs didn’t think Janet Reno went “too far” when she burned 76 people to death in Waco, Texas, including 20 children.

    Hey libs:

    [censored].

  • Patty
  • Taqiyyotomist

    AJ

    Yet, you immediately suggested that Michael strikes his children.

    Well, he must, right? He’s a right-winger!

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  • AJ

    @Taqiyyotomist

    Nope, I don’t know what Michael does… he does seem to be in favor of physically violent tools for compliance. And his comment making a comparison of the pepper-spraying to disciplining children would seem to suggest similar physical methods being involved.

    It seems his post suggests the possibility of that behavior… But that doesn’t necessarily mean he’d actually hit a child… that’s exactly why I posed the question.

    I’m not even trying to say hitting children is bad… it might be an appropriate method, maybe even a necessary method in some situations. I’d just hate to think that’d be someone’s only method or even their default first response.

  • Patty

    Kids will agree to take drugs, text will driving, steal, jump off a bridge, bully, anything. They are so stupid and naive.

    And we you have a mind easy to be shaped by liberal professors and AWOL parents this is what you get. Another generations of liberals progressives. They spread like weeds, pull one up and there comes another.

  • Voice of Reason

    See and hearing the students in Davis at rally yesterday complain about the pepper spray incident, they come across as whiners and babies. A pattern is protesters such as we see with OWS provoke the police and then they complain police finally do take action. Seriously, as soon as they get handcuffed or get pushed, they scream bloody murder. I bet most of these kids were the ones who’s parents complained about the coach because either their kid got cut from the team or doesn’t play. It’s the coaches fault not that their kids isn’t any good.

  • Carbon Pootprint

    So the 25% (college Admin, college cops, college kids) were just putting on a show to get more money out of the 75%.

    break Greecfornia off send it into the ocean.

  • Valerie

    Nice catch. I’m glad you got this video and posted it.

    So why the F**K did it take so long? We know that people of ill will are looking for a Kent State Moment, and we know that the film clip of what happened AFTER this conversation has raised a much-desired furor over “police brutality.” And we know that the delay in the release of this clip has played very much into the hands of dishonest people. We also know that our dishonest national media tend to ignore the debunking clips if they appear too late.

    The process of getting out the rest of the video can and should be faster. Whoever took or retrieved this video will, I hope, find ways to handle this more quickly, the next time. Perhaps it’s merely a matter of knowing who to send it to.

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  • rebecca

    tried to tell people but no one would listen….and it’s too late now because they accomplished what they set out to do…..create something for people to rally around when their plans to create chaos weren’t catching on….a fb friend in australia had already seen this last night and they have their own occupy crap now…..but it was too easy for conservatives to see this and start generational warfare blaming it on people of a certain age when the reality is that the same evil people that began the uprisings in egypt, greece and spain have been behind this all along and the majority of people don’t even know that they’re pawns….we’re doomed unless somehow people start paying attention and get out of the right vs left mindset….but until then the right will continue to attack this making it easy for them to hate the right….i’m in my 20s and could easily be one of them if I didn’t know a better way to fix our problems….too bad no one will listen

  • Big Al

    These police were ordered by the University leaders, for whatever reason, to clear this area. They tried to do it in as humane a way as possible. For all the credit they are getting for their forbearance they might as well have just gone in Chicago style right away.

  • rebecca

    after seeing all of the comments here…..i don’t know why i bother to care…..you people would turn on me in a crowd of ows people just because they’re my age….keep in mind who got us to this point because until everyone accepts their share of the blame, we’re on a downward spiral

  • S

    @Patty

    It’s really the colleges and the Gov’t to blame about this. For years we have been told, you need to get good grades so you can get into a good college so you can get a good job. What we needed to be telling our youngsters is that college is really only beneficial if you are going technical or professional. What they should be teaching these kids is how to create your own job. But then again that would tear down the liberal college system where students are poor and without mommy and daddy to take care of them they want someone else to do it. I have no sympathy for these idiots that have a Masters in Fine Arts with no real world experience, and can’t find a job anywhere.

    @AJ

    What would be your reasonable punishment to get these protesters to comply? When arresting individuals just made them resist even more, what would you have done? If you say physically move them, then you obviously have no idea how much harm that can do to a person, especially if they resist. They used an appropriate amount of force to get them to comply. They didn’t have a permit to assemble in a public place. Read your local, state, and federal statutes on that and you will see that all of these people are really illegally squatting/loitering in a public place that should be available for the “General Public” to safely use. Using pepper spray, is not only a compliance tool it is standard police procedure when dealing with large amounts of people that refuse to comply with laws. If they would have taken batons out and such that would be an unacceptable use of force. Before you start posting in a public forum such as this; please do yourself a favor and actually know laws and compliance techniques, before trolling an intelligent, well-informed online community. We are all about intelligent debate but don’t come in here and rant on things you have no idea about with your holier-than-thou attitude. It’s just going to make you look like an idiot.

  • d_fitz

    The Audacity of Lameness.

  • Big Al

    Kent State moment my ass. Those were young national guard troops in way over their heads. Cops don’t shoot into crowds!!

    I was in Madison in 67 and Chicago in 68. These cops showed ALOT of restraint, believe me and these kids are pussies. If you can’t stand the heat don’t go in the kitchen.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof

    “Don’t shoot your children!” Children? Is there anyone at that protest, or any of the student body who still considers him or herself a “child”? Name me any other activity or circumstance on that college campus where the students do not want to be treated as adults.

    Children, you got your wish!

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  • http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:stQwDfyliEIJ:www.eqil.org/civil.html+%22Illinois+Religious+Freedom+Protection+and+Civil+Union+Act%22&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&s Rob Crawford

    lols.. so if the protesters moved whenever the cops asked (which is everytime they pick a place to protest)… then what does a legal protest look like? An empty field?

    Yes. Once the protest is over.

    Look at the Tea Party rallies — all the paperwork done, all the permits acquired, insurance paid for, overtime for the police paid for. When it was over, everyone went home and took their trash (and some that was there when they got there) with them.

    That is the behavior of responsible, law-abiding adults.

    No doubt you’ll trot out some idiocy about Rosa Parks or the sit-ins in the South during the Civil Rights movement. But those were SPECIFICALLY targeted at the policies they were protesting! They weren’t allowed in those diners, so they went into them, sat down, and refused to move until they were served alongside everyone else. Directly targeting what they were protesting.

    Furthermore, they were willing to suffer the consequences of their actions. They were willing to risk the beatings, arrests, murders that could have resulted from their actions.

    These UC Davis thugs are just inconveniencing people, for no reason, in protest of, what? Tuition hikes? Boohoo — transfer to a different school or get a job! This isn’t unjust treatment by immoral laws — this is being expected to pay for what you’re getting!

    The left needs to grow up, badly. Tantrums don’t convince anyone, and tend to make people even more resolute in their opposition.

  • http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:stQwDfyliEIJ:www.eqil.org/civil.html+%22Illinois+Religious+Freedom+Protection+and+Civil+Union+Act%22&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&s Rob Crawford

    The students sat down after a couple of the protesters started being arrested.

    Classic tantrum maneuver.

    Emotionally, no more advanced than a three-year-old.

  • http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:stQwDfyliEIJ:www.eqil.org/civil.html+%22Illinois+Religious+Freedom+Protection+and+Civil+Union+Act%22&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&s Rob Crawford

    I don’t think people are mad that the officers took further action to force compliance… it was just that their methods seemed to immediately escalate to levels not really warranted by the situation.

    Emptying their sidearms into the pack would have been unwarranted.

    A little discomfort from pepper spray is no worse than spraying a cat with some water when they scratch your furniture.

  • Celtic

    Taqiyyotomist….Satan, huh? You off your meds?

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  • MaxTruth

    By the book.

    Verbal warning to move.
    Attempt to physically move them by use of grab method.
    Warn that pepper spray will be used since they are resisting.
    Spray em.

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  • richard

    If you watch the whole sequence of events, which is available on YouTube

    1) The cops come to get rid of an illegal tent city
    2) some students fight with police and are arrested
    3) The arrestees go limp and will have to be dragged to the squad car
    4) The students surround the police and their arrestees, telling the cops to release the arrests and “we will let you go”
    5) The cops, surrounded, try to break up the kids sitting between them and the squad car, telling them to break up the blockade so they can get their people out
    6) The kids link arms and refuse, so the cops reluctantly pepper spray just the few between themselves and the vehicle so they can get OUT
    7) Then they leave through the exit they had to create

    The kids were entirely in the wrong, essentially assaulted the police, and played victim when the police had to use pepper spray to get out– which was a safer decision than if they had physically yanked locked-armed kids apart, or tried to climb over them. I feel bad for the cop, whose career and name are being destroyed by this farce.

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  • Rev. Churchmouse

    Shocking brutality!!

    They should have issued a warning first.

    –Leave the park or we will give all of you down twinkles.

    If they wouldn’t listen, then –occupy them.

    Just sit down right on top of them, and chant slogans and bang on drums all day and night. Maybe hold a community meeting and ask for free food and camping supplies.

  • goofy

    After all the excuses,blame and self pity are declared,it is simple.

    They were told to disperse multiple times,they were warned they would be pepper sprayed.
    They chose to fire up cameras,sit on the ground and refuse.

    The police responded exactly as they said they would.No surprise,no conspiracy,no big deal.

    Unless these people don’t speak English,are mentally challenged or insane they were fully informed of the consequences of their actions and accepted it freely.They had a choice.

  • Harry

    The police should have done it the old fashioned way swinging clubs.You want to live the 60’s well feel the 60’s feel that club.

  • Daniel

    You mean the whole thing was STAGED?!! What a bunch of cheap shots!

  • Aaron Simon

    When they say “shoot students” they’re actually referring to tear gas, dumbass.

  • Bad Canadian

    you turds are so weak – you think that some psychopath cop will stop this?

  • Jason

    So the point all of you are trying to make is that as long as you’re told your constitutional rights are about to be violated in advance and multiple times it’s OK?

  • brian s

    Wow. Just wow. I wish I saw what the lot of you do. I wish I could wallow in self deceit and ignorance. EveryOne condemning the adults protesting – which included much of the staff – are the short sighted, biased individuals who have allowed our civil rights to decline while the corporations pummel us into the ground. “If you don’t like it, get out.”. Because the system is never wrong, because the police don’t abuse anyone – you’ve never seen it or felt it so it doesn’t exist.

    No, they won’t get out. They will try to change the system they pay for. Maybe you should get out… After all the Occupy movement is larger than you and when change is made selfish egotistical proclaim like those who posted here aren’t going to like it much.

    Our opinion and our right the the First Amendment is just as valid as yours. Our votes, our protests are just as valid as yours. Scream your twisted facts all you want – we’re no longer listening to you.

    Occupy.

  • Nick

    All I can say is wow to the comments on this board. America is on a downward spiral quick with people of this level of intelligence having the right to vote. Has anyone here ever heard of the constitution and the rights contained in it? The bill of rights? American history? We bomb other countries due to them attacking protestors and jailing innocent people yet we do nothing to stop it here in this country. Seriously these protesters were peaceful and could have easily been arrested without pepper spray. All they did was pepper spray then put handcuffs on them. Why didn’t they just handcuff them and take them away. It was unnecessary use of force. These Americans have every right to protest just as the Tea Party had the right to protest and other protestors throughout history. It amazes me that the people on this board want to label these kids as self entitled people, spoiled, etc. The amount of people on here calling for beating them, etc is appalling. What happens when you see injustice in what ever fashion and you are silenced in this way? Will you feel the same? Since OWS started the police across this country has acted like many middle eastern countries.

    This protest is about civil disobedience and has been used throughout history as a valid protest strategy. No one is listening to the majority of Americans and one way to make them listen is to be seen and heard. I haven’t physically protested but I support the movement in full. Of course there are some bad elements just like every group, but overall the goals and demands are quite reasonable and what’s right for America. Look at history to see when we prospered and when we failed, how we corrected it.

    I know without a shadow of a doubt I will be called names, attacked as a dumb liberal, etc from the people on this board. Personally I couldn’t care less what you have to say about my intelligence, etc. I know the truth and see the level of ignorance on this board. For anyone supporting the college doing this your level of understanding of America, Constitutional rights, and history are lacking.

  • Carol

    LOL at the guy who’s calling them “passive aggressive” Gotta love how those who criticize them were perfectly ok with the tea party folks who were, at times, far more threatening than these kids sitting on the ground.

    @richard, provide links or nothing you say has merit. It’s not my job to research whether something you say exists actually does exist.

  • Nick

    One more comment, What happened to the UNITED States of America? Why can’t people see that we all do better as a country if we have the best educated in the world, but yet we treat education like something that only the upper class should have. We treat health care like something only the upper class should have. We are a terrible time of wild wild west thinking. Every man for himself which is historically not what America has been about. Why is it other countries highly invest in the educate of their citizens, but yet we look at it as a luxury. China is out pacing us at everything. But some seem content with allowing this to happen instead of coming together and doing what we need to do to succeed. The old ways of creating jobs will not work. Whether we like it or not we are in a competitive world economy and we must compete. Republicans, Democrats, Everyone…we all need to come together to do the things that will make us the super power we use to be. At this pace our super power status is on its way to being lost and in a lot of ways has already been lost. We need to stop thinking about our own petty ideologies and compromise to make things better for the country as a whole.

  • http://www.todayslies.com Will

    Obviously none of you have ever heard of “passive resistance”. Yes, I do believe the kids sitting on the ground knew what was coming to them. People, the shock over what happened to the students at UC Davis is not because it “came as a surprise”. It is because the officers DID IT AT ALL.

  • istar

    Our Founders did not Risk their lives to free this nation, only to allow an abuse of authority and the freedoms in which was given the people to be taken away due to “Business” needs…

    This is a disgrace.

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    ― Thomas Jefferson

  • chris

    firstly none of you have the least bit of maturity on the issue. @ the religion guy, its not the end of the world sheesh @ the people defending the police, standing up to police is unfortunately a side effect of progress. if no one had ever done so we’d still be British, we still have slaves, none of you women could vote ect. @ ALL OF YOU.. Occupy isn’t hurting people, were lucky that’s true. YOU older generation think about this, America became a country because of the shot heard round the world when a militia (olden day armed protesters) refused to disperse before the British redcoats who then fired on them. black people can vote today because they ignored the police and organized, sat where they wanted ect. Women didn’t listen to the police to get their rights. America has been a better place because of protest for everyone. All progressive change takes protest and protest always grows to an illegal size. POLICE ALWAYS WANNA DISPERSE EVERY MOVEMENT, they always have, they always will, and they will always do it violently. the main demand Occupy wants from the government and Im gonna sum it up real neatly so there’s no misunderstandings about what occupy is:: We want politicians who vote the way the majority of us citizens would we don’t want party bickering we want stuff done, NOW. we all want jobs, we don’t want war, we want fair money we can survive on and save some of, we want food, we want medicine… and we wanna get all that with 40 hours of work a week each (any job).. and we know its completely possible cuz our great grandmas n grandpas had all that and more, but our parents and grandparents you old people didnt pay attention to politics and screwed us.@old republicans and democrats.. u have your retirements your reaping what you sowed, get out of the way of progress or go die some were the worlds changing now glad u could make it.

  • Jason

    and your point? I don’t understand what you think this says but it looks to me like the police were interfering with a PEACEFUL protest and gave an ultimatum, ‘move it or we pepper spray you’. The protestors were willing to stand their ground regardless of what the police threatened them with on the matter of constitutional principal and RIGHT. It is the exact same thing as has happened in New York, Oakland, Europe and I am sure that there are many more examples. People stood up for their right to protest and the government tried to circumvent that right. That does NOT make the police any less culpable nor does it excuse their aggregious behavior. They pepper sprayed a bunch of unarmed, unthreatening, peaceful protestors in an effort to take away their constitutional right. I don’t know where you live but we have had many incidents where pepper spray has actually killed people. The police are lucky that no one so far has had an allergic reaction to this reckless use of a dangerous chemical. If I were to just randomly go up to someone on the street and spray them then I would likely, maybe charged with felonious assault. This is no different.

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  • Jason

    ‘egregious’

  • Founder

    Is this some kind of website for deluded authoritarians?

    That campus policeman perpetrated an illegal assault on those college students.

    This occurred on the grounds of a scoop, for crying out loud. Absolutely reprehensible.

    Anyone who would defend the pepper spraying thug IS a thug.

  • Founder

    “school”

  • scarshapedstar

    He wasn’t giving consent. He was just acknowledging the cop’s intent to end his own career.

    If he had pleaded for mercy and cried for his mommy, wouldn’t you wingnuts have mocked him? Can you even explain what you think he should have said?

  • Mike Bell

    I guess 20 is the new 12? Can’t get over how dumb and immature these people are. The cops were stupid to even attempt to remove them. Let them feed off of each other.

  • Lindsey

    This movement is doing nothing but hurting the American people. It’s already cost hardworking taxpaying Americans over 15 million dollars! Not to mention the cost it has had on any American with a small buisness in the area. They chose to be sprayed. Then cried about it. This whole “movement” is a joke. It’s one big temper tantrum thrown by the intellectually lazy and Americans are sick of it. Pathetic occupuppets.

  • C

    Once again, the Right proves it’s desire to cut off it’s nose to spite it’s face.

    Several Westboro Baptist Church protests have proved far more disruptive and intimidating to the Police than this band of ragtag students having a sit-in, and yet there is seldom pepper-spray dispensed at point-blank into their faces… curious.

    By condemning the students and condoning the use of WEAPONS against unarmed, non-violent protesters, you are effectively signing away the rights given to you in the Constitution you so lovingly smear with the fecal matter that is your diatribe.

    Your justifications are moronic; “they were told of the consequences” like how a robbery victim is told they will be shot if they stop someone taking their wallet?

    It doesn’t surprise me that the wingnuts on here would immediately lambast the left-leaning protesters- after all, if they’re not saying what you’re saying, they shouldn’t have the right to say it, right?

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  • Jerky

    Comments on this board are emblematic of the utter idiocy and lack of compassion that infiltrates American’s evil hearts in a period of endless war and endless stupidity. Apparently none of you have ever read the Constitution, or read the California definition of assault as you sit in front of your monitors, masturbating to second-hand violence which you are all too cowardly to commit on your own. Just as in the Civil Rights protests all the way to the Tea Party protests, all of you retards will end up on the wrong side of history, but are too stupid to realize that as you egg on authoritarian rule, no different that that of Syria or China or Mynamar or Egypt. You may call yourself “conservatives” but Ronald Reagan would puke on you if he ever read the comments of your barely literate populace. I bet you are the same people who are voting to keep my tax rate at half of yours, despite the fact I’m making at least 10 times as much as you. Thank you for your stupidity…..now please move to China or Syria, as most of you seem far more comfortable with a police state dictating everyone’s actions, rather than a free democracy based upon the Constitution.

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  • Dean

    Know what is cracking me up about all you Right Wingers trying to say that the kids agreed to be sprayed and encircled the cops and shouted F*ck the Police, etc? Its exactly the same as when you tried to go on Wikipedia and correct Sara Palin’s obvious mistake concerning Paul Revere’s ride.

  • squeaky

    “…bet you are the same people who are voting to keep my tax rate at half of yours, ..” yeah i bet..probably more like subsidizing your eic or government housing, etc.

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  • JD

    The person who wrote this article is either stupid or evil. A chump or a fascist.

  • Mike

    This article seems to justify the pepper spraying because they were chanting [email protected] the police. IT’S A FREE SPEECH [email protected] COUNTRY. ANYONE CAN SAY [email protected] THE POLICE IF THEY WANT TO WHEREVER THEY WANT TO. I DON’T CARE IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. SO [email protected] THE MOTHER [email protected] POLICE.

  • http://bit.ly/yoccupy Mysta Squiggle

    Jesus Christ also accepted the warning of Pontus Pilate that if he disobeyed authority that he would be crucified.

  • John Holland

    Ridiculous premise. What if the officer said, “If you don’t move, I’m going to blow your head off with a shotgun!” and what if the protestors said, “fine, try it,”?

    That wouldn’t justify the officer’s action.

    The kids let it happen precisely because they knew it was wrong and excessive, and that it would be captured on video to shame the officers, and inspire future protestors.

    And that’s exactly what happened. The only thing that exceeded Pike’s cruelty was his stupidity. This is chess, not football, and the protestors are winning.

  • timbo

    They have a right to protest. I have a right to not be bothered by it or care about it.

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  • C

    Mysta Squiggle, John Holland and many others have absolutely nailed it.

  • Buck Ofama

    Pepper sprayed = getting shot…. Purely a staged event using rent a cops

  • Dante

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallows_humor

    You people need us to EXPLAIN this? Wow…

  • Ruby S Wilson

    You people are scary and that is with god on your side:-(((

  • http://www.studiosapien.com Jerry Williams!

    It seems what the Leader actually said was, “you’re shooting us for sitting here? – that’s fine, that’s fine.” And in context, it doesn’t seem so much like an “agreement” to be pepper sprayed, but an acknowledgement that it was coming.
    My question is, is the difference too subtle for the author of this post or is he purposely ignoring it?

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  • Claims1

    I recall a conversation by a noted(at that time)TV reporter, following the civil rights march from Selma to Montgomery, AL. His comment, that I have never forgotten – and neither should you – “Without television cameras, there would have been NO march”. All this occupy crap is nothing more than a charade, specifically performed for the benefit of the main stream media. You are seeing George Soros and MoveOn.org in action.

  • randy

    they still dont get it, there are no leaders in the occupy movement all 99% are leaders.

  • http://www.fantasyenchantment.com William Perron

    Very funny stuff. Students chanting “Shame on you” at the bad little boys. Great theatre, but certainly nothing remotely like Kent State.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MZCHjGkTPg&feature=related Mike

    Okay, the so-called “1%” deserve a bit more public attention and people of all political ideologies should come together on shared values to expose the corruption that is America today. We have huge corporations that get bailed out with tax money while small businesses must live by the Darwinian “survival of the fittest” ethic. Speaking of which, we have a government that actively encourages the transfer of our jobs overseas while refusing to enforce our borders. Result? A huge number of people competing for what few jobs are left. Progressives and libertarians need to work together to address these issues and shed light on the fact that many of our leaders are nothing more than psychopaths in suits: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MZCHjGkTPg&feature=related

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  • Jim

    What Jim Hoft meant to say was: “Figures, UC Davis Students continued to stand up for their values in the face of adversity.” And Hoft left out an important detail: the main chant the students shouted was “You use weapons, we use words.”

    That’s right, they stood up for their values, their beliefs, and faced the fire. Then they got up, and in their commitment to nonviolence, pushed the cops off the quad with no one throwing a punch. Too few Americans have the courage to follow through with their convictions, but these kids did, and I for one am proud of them.

    Furthermore, Chancellor Katehi has come out and said that she ordered the police not to use violence, that if there were too many students or they resisted, to back off. Either she is trying to cover her own @$$ or those cops disobeyed her orders.

    Finally, lets compare to Penn State. At Penn State, students turned over cars in support of a man who covered for a child rapist, and the police did nothing. At UC Davis, students sat down in the middle of an open quad that anyone can easily walk through, and got pepper sprayed.

    And on the “giggling” and “smiling,” read up on psychology. People often recount traumatic or painful events with a smile. It’s a natural way of dealing with things.

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  • Richardtoo

    @richard, #54

    Your summary of the events is horribly wrong. No one fought with the police.. the first few that were arrested were picked out pretty much at random. The protesters didn’t think it was right for only some randomly singled out for arest and thus decided to sit in to force more arrests.

    It’s clear that the officers were able to move freely around the seated protesters the whole time… in fact, Lt. Pike walks from one side of the seated protesters to the other (stepping right over them with no obstruction at all) just seconds before spraying.

    The cops weren’t being threatened…. no one was “cut-off” from anyone else (people had been walking in and out of the group freely, the circle wasn’t even fully closed, and the whole event took place in a big open field with a few trees). You can see the area the events took place in this aerial pic from the rally on the following Monday http://i.imgur.com/KcOhy.jpg The spraying incident was around the walkway on the left side of the pic.

    The encampment (tents+equipment, the claimed target of the police) were pretty much all removed before the spraying. The officers just wanted to remove the students too, and decided spraying them was the best method.

  • CAM

    The comments on this site reveal a lack of knowledge of law, or a lack of concern about violations of law by campus security police.

  • http://bit.ly/yoccupy Mysta Squiggle

    From http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/23/us/pepper-sprays-fallout-from-crowd-control-to-mocking-images.html

    To Kamran Loghman, who helped develop pepper spray into a weapons-grade material with the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the 1980s, the incident at Davis violated his original intent.

    “I have never seen such an inappropriate and improper use of chemical agents,” Mr. Loghman said in an interview.

    Mr. Loghman, who also helped develop guidelines for police departments using the spray, said that use-of-force manuals generally advise that pepper spray is appropriate only if a person is physically threatening a police officer or another person.

    In New York, for example, a police commander who sprayed several women in an Occupy demonstration last month faced disciplinary proceedings. The New York Police Department says pepper spray should be used chiefly for self-defense or to control suspects who are resisting arrest.

  • Lauren

    It doesn’t matter that they were warned or that they agreed. They were peacefully protesting, no one was being harmed, and no violence was comitted. They were exercising their constitutional right of peaceful protest, and they were sprayed with a chemical weapon capable of severe damage and death. Commercial pepper spray is nothing compared to military grade pepper spray that police use.
    This is no different than if they had been warned and ‘agreed’ to have been shot with a gun. It doesn’t matter that they agreed to anything at all. Lt Pike’s use of pepper spray was inappropriate and illegal. He should be fired and arrested.

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    Bout time! Breitbart put it up!!

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  • NAH

    Glad to see some clearer thinkers in the last half of these posts! My first reactions upon seeing this video:

    1.) To say that the protester who was told of the pepper spray was their leader is unsupported and contrary to the point of the OWS movement (no leader, etc)

    2.) I agree with Jerry Williams!, it seems that the protestor says “You’re shooting us for sitting here? That’s fine, that’s fine.” Really, what is he supposed to say? It sounds more like surprise than anything else.

    3.) It is nice to have a video of the whole event from multiple angles, as it shows that there WAS NO VIOLENCE! The use of pepper spray was unprovoked. It seems to me that the cops were inexperienced with protests and made a poor judgement call.

    I have a friend who was a police officer for 23 years and after viewing this video he said that using pepper spray on these protestors was uncalled for. He said that he has had to deal with moving groups of linked-armed individuals and that standard procedure for such a situation is to use pressure points on the body to get their arms to go limp, then move them. He also pointed out that the officer using the pepper spray was a lieutenant, which is very unusual. He offered no idea why a lieutenant would be involved in the action of this situation, and I don’t know enough about police infrastructure to offer a guess. Obviously, the rank of the office is not the point, but I thought I’d put it out there if anyone else had insight.

    Occupy.

  • Ray Frattone

    The pepper spray had little effect. It looks like colored water. People cannot sit there like the protesters did without being affected if it was really pepper spray. It looks as if the whole thing was orchestrated. Sad

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