Rick Perry was on with Bill O’Reilly tonight to discuss his Flat Tax bill he introduced today along with other issues. The Texas Governor was not so subtle with his attacks on Mitt Romney and his flip-flops.

“You can’t be on both sides of the issue… I think in his own words he says, ‘Listen I need to say whatever I need to say for whatever office I’m running for.” That’s his words.

Ouch.

 

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  1. That’s it, fight amongst yourself. Look like a bunch of idiots. Give obama (D) the election.

  2. Rick Perry can’t be trusted.

  3. Liz, you can’t be trusted. How do I know? Because I say so and just like you, I would never lie.

  4. 8myfoot, do you have a problem with Mitt Romney creating an entire website for no other reason than to attack Rick Perry?

    Let’s see if your standards are double.

  5. ++

    when one has nothing but quicksand to stand on, one tends
    to try & knock the oppositions pedestal out from under them..

    i cannot wait until the real Rick Perry is exposed, and he will be..

    however, like the Dems re: Obama, i highly doubt the Reps re: Perry
    will be touting their Manchurian candidates until after the ball is over..

    just keep the useful tools distracted by pointing fingers at & accusing
    others of your sins.. hey, it works well for O & the dhims, and he sure
    has nothing to lose..

    ==

  6. Neither one of them can be trusted.

  7. ++

    for the poll lovers:

    October 25th, 2011

    Poll: Cain takes top position, Perry falls to fifth

    ==

  8. Sorry I don’t have the heart to watch a video of Perry
    8)

  9. retire05, maybe I didn’t make myself clear. I apologize. I don’t want any of these candidates fighting, it makes them look like a bunch of fools, and that’s exactly what the Left wants. Keep them off balance, off the issues. I don’t want Parry attacking Romney, I don’t want Romney attacking Perry. I haven’t picked a candidate yet, and it’s partly because of this nonsene that’s going on. Why can’t they just stay on topic, talk about their ideas and how they’d do a much better job than obama (D).

  10. Perry scored on that one.

    Gig Em’

  11. I don’t want Romney. I won’t support him. He won’t get the donations the RNP hammers us for our past givings.

  12. @8myfoot

    Politics ain’t beanbag.

    This is what primaries are for.

  13. Cain
    Newt
    Perry
    Romney

    That order

  14. @workingclass artist, I suppose you’re right, but still. I just wish they’d concentrate on the issues.

  15. If just one of these Republican tools would say “I think it is immoral and fascistic to require a citizen to buy healthcare, and criminalize him if he does not”, they would get my vote.

  16. Attacking Romney is not attacking another R. He’s a Rino and fair game.

  17. Perry is proving useful in the role of taking down Romney as you yourself fall off a cliff. I thank him for that.

  18. Well, it’s true.

    As for those who are hating on Perry, I’d have a few questions:
    1. Why trust anyone else? Cain can’t even explain his pro-life position. Yes, yes, he’s pro-life, I know, but anyone who didn’t read Redstate probably wouldn’t know that because he fumbles on the simplest of questions. Gingrich? The guy who had two affairs and three marriages? Need I go on? Romney? Facts are facts. And no one else is a serious candidate.

    Well, I guess only one question. Why trust anyone else? Perry has been fairly straightforward and I can’t think of a lie he’s said.

  19. Where is Duncan Hunter when you need him? sigh*

    Boehner: Russia Trying to Restore ‘Soviet-Style Power’… Hey moron have you had a good look at “the Establishment” of both parties?

  20. #1 bing………………republicans need to follow Reagan’s eleventh commandment……….Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republicans………………Need to speak ill of the dict-a-tor-n-chief thats running our country now……………..

  21. Where is the anti-Bush? You know, the candidate that claims to be a moderate and after getting elected turns rabid conservative?

  22. Oh, golly, lookie, bg is soiling herself over the current CBS poll.

    So let’s do a little comparisons, shall we?

    CBS GOP primary poll, October 12/16, 2007

    Guiliani 29%
    Thompson 21%
    McCain 18%
    Romney 12%
    Huckabee 4%

    How’d that work out?

  23. ++

    SnowSoul #18 October 25, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    1) JOBS

    2) TARP

    there’s much more, but i’m too tired to list all of them at the moment, so
    i’ll save them for another day, or you can search the Perry posts via the
    archives.. ie: a bit more here & here & here for starters..

    ==

  24. It’s the warm up for the big show.

  25. ++

    re: #23 October 25, 2011 at 8:44 pm bg

    Rick Perry TARP Letter

    contradicting to say the least..

    btw, he also took Stimulus money, go figure..

    ==

  26. Perry does better in these ‘talking head’ situations then in the debates.

    He is on the offensive with his tax plan, and now pointed attacks of Romney

    He may not get any of Romney’s 25% but he needs to stop the bleeding and chip away at Cain’s lead.

    We’re in the 2nd inning.

  27. #23
    1. That was misleading. They created jobs, but the population exploded. http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590

    2. I’m giving him a pass on that the same way people are giving Cain a pass on it. They apparently were naive in their belief it wasn’t just crony capitalism. Apparently, running a state, doing who knows what(Cain), doesn’t leave time to completely research everything that you’re not involved with directly.

    First link: Romney hired illegals.
    First sublink: Took a year to fire then said something to the effect he’s only doing it because he’s running for President. That makes Romney look bad.
    Second sublink: Didn’t realize we were against immigration entirely, as you appear to be.
    Third sublink: Already provided the faulty information on that above. Ditch it. Arguing that is like Rick Santorum arguing against letting health insurance companies do cross border insurance plans, you have no idea what you are even arguing against(That was freedom he was arguing against. Thus, Santorum is a moron).
    Fourth sublink: No politician is perfect. Example Reagan.

    Second link:
    First sublink: Still not perfect, similar subject(immigration).
    Second sublink: I’d be interested in when that picture was taken. Clearly, he’s younger there and not all was known about them. As I stated, not everyone is going to know everything about everything, especially when they’re in the position of governing or doing something of importance(Ask Sarah Palin about her crony capitalism and HPV drug).
    Third sublink: He’s already stated he was just talking about the general idea of what they were doing, he had no idea what it was turning out to be. 23.8% uninsured? How about there are a lot of illegals there and thus the number is horribly skewed?
    Fourth sublink: Hmm, once again, no politician is perfect. By now, I’m guess you hate Reagan with a passion, eh?
    Fifth link: Being an Arizonan, I’m gonna give him some slack. they’re business minded conservatives over in Texas, not so much here in Arizona. We love business here, but we are tough as nails on immigration and for good reason. He put the national guard on the board and has increased security.

    So, let me guess: you hate every politician? No, that can’t be it. You’re a Palin fan, right? That annoying lady who abdicated her duties then took potshots from the sidelines after realizing she’ll never be elected? That’s the convenient answer, eh?

  28. Perry’s “flat tax” is an interesting concept.

    What social impact is it intended to have?

  29. #28 October 25, 2011 at 10:13 pm
    Druid commented:

    One feature is to take some of the enormous drag Federal overspending has placed on the economy, and also to return predictability to our administrative policy, by governing according to the rule of law and not by waiver, thereby freeing up enough economic resources to make our economic pump stop cavitating. The end result would be more jobs. That’s a huge social impact, and we have the data to show how to do it.

    Rick Perry’s Economic plan

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204777904576651330270547222.html

  30. bg #5

    You sound like Rubin, never saying anything good about Perry..

    ‘Rubin, caustic and single-minded, has proven immune to the usual approaches from Perry’s staff: She can’t be schmoozed, can’t be convinced. They respond diligently, if glumly, to emails that arrive in Austin like hostage notes, and often echo or prefigure former Mass. Gov. Mitt Romney’s attacks on him.

    “It’s just very high level saturation bombing from our perspective — we don’t know why,” said a Perry ally, who said the campaign has given up on swaying her. “It’s just duck and cover.”’

    Rick Perry’s worst nightmare: Jennifer Rubin

    I like Perry, he is a good governor and will be a good president. It is Romney on the shifting sands, not Perry.. Cain is a sky rocket, raising fast in the polls before detonating and drifting down to earth in shreds of paper.

  31. Funny how all these so called Conservatives are afraid to actually do the fiscally responsible thing. All the candidates are dancing around the tax issue, trying not to step on anyone’s toes.

    Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 plan will broaden the tax base, rid the federal government of an elaborate tax code that requires thousands of overpaid bureaucrats, and will be transparent, simple and predictable.

    What is wrong with a plan that makes ALL Americans pay something towards the services they use and enjoy, ie) roads, bridges, transit, libraries.

    Why do 50% of Americans want to pay for the other 50%, who are freeloaders on the system, and who may actually get money back from the gov’t in terms of tax credits?

    In Canada, we have a broad tax base, a consumption tax, plus a low corporate tax, and last time I checked, our economy was the strongest economy in the G20!

    You can’t expect to have a viable country when 50% of the citizens don’t pay their way!

  32. “…make our economic pump stop cavitating…”

    Did you really write that?

    I know what pump cavitation is and would in no way apply that the taxation as a positive.

    Or, in other words, the flat tax will suck more blood out of a turnip.

  33. I wish we would all spend more time building our own favorite GOP nominee up, rather than tearing the others down.

    I’m more conservative than nearly everyone I know. Romney is not in my top three choices. But if it turns out he’s the favorite choice of most people voting in Republican primaries, then against Obama, he gets my vote. I’ve read more than half of his 150+ page plan, and it’s acceptable enough. ALL of the candidates have a plan far more acceptable than the horrors Obama is visiting upon our great country.

    The Republicans are in danger of losing me to any new conservative third party, it’s true. The GOP doesn’t appear serious enough in solving the problems our country faces. But new third parties take time to start up and become serious themselves, and would have to earn my trust and vote anyway. For 2012, not an option. I would urge everyone to, yes, criticize the other nominees where fair but let’s not go nuclear-blast force with our hatred and derision??? Save that for the ones who really deserve it, our far-left bastards in the Obama-Pelosi-Reid cabal.

  34. Perry speaks the truth.

  35. Perry is right to point out that Romney has less character than Obama. At least Obama sticks to his Marxist principles when the chips are down, whereas Romney would gladly become a Marxist or a Libertarian if he thought he could swing your vote.

    Romney’s only hope of winning the nomination is to keep the GOP field divided enough so he comes out on top. And he is succeeding. Romney will not be the next president because I do not see enough people making an effort to support another version of McCain. If Romney wins the nomination we’ll have four more years of Obama. Say what you will, but I absolutely will never vote for Romney– no matter the outcome.

    I think most conservatives today want to believe in someone– they want hope and change. They have jumped on the bandwagon of a decent man who is so obviously in over his head and ill-preparred to be president that they have to turn two blind eyes to avoid noticing Herman Cain’s foot-in-mouth terminal illness. And he is running on a platform that calls for the introduction of a new form of taxation 9-9-9 (watch out for one of those nines! — once a new tax is created it never goes away.) Can we for one minute imagine the reality of a Cain presidency, of someone with the unique ability to accommodate what will be a liberal media feeding frenzy with Cain’s endless supply of gaffes, misstatements, and etc. Cain will need a new and improved TOTUS, even more so than Obama. All because of HopeyChangey feelings about him (feel the irony). Cain will supply enough material for a GOP version of Gaffe-of-the-Day at Hot Air. Oh, and of course many republicans will vote for him BECAUSE he is black– exactly like the libtards did with Obama (more irony).

    Gingrich is untrustworthy. He has no moral character. He will sell us out if he should win the presidency. He lost his soul to politics long ago. He is a great orator and debater– like many historical figures– and I could care less. I will not vote for Gingrich. I refuse to vote for such an unworthy and immoral man.

    Michelle Bachmann is a political charlatan. She lies, lies and then makes stuff up. She will say anything to get elected. She has zero record of leadership, but constantly blows her own horn. I am not deceived by Bachmann and will not vote for her.

    Ron Paul. Idiots are into Ron Paul.

    Perry is the governor of Texas and has to deal with the problem of illegal immigration with the tools he has at hand. The in-state tuition for illegals seems bad (and it is bad that the situation has been forced on Texas) until you think it through, which most Cain-suporters have not. I do not support illegal immigration and dislike it as much as any decent American. But Perry is dealing with the situation on the ground, which he is *forced* to do by the federal government’s failure to secure the border. So there are children of illegals who have graduated from high schools in Texas and are there to stay for good, in accordance with the inaction on the part of the federal government, . What can the state of Texas do with them? Enable them to fail and possibly become a burden to society? Or, if they are on track to become US citizens, help them to succeed? Texas cannot do the job of the federal government. Get it? The legislature in Texas, along with Perry, chose the latter– and so conservatives now ‘feel’ Perry is soft on illegal immigration. And the fence thing– let’s not waste 30 billion dollars and build a stupid fence along hundreds of miles of border where illegals do not cross. We should instead invest the money in assets on the ground, along with drone technology that can spot illegals coming across the border, as Perry recommends. Perry is not perfect, but neither was GWB or Reagan (or anybody), and Perry is much more conservative than GWB. Also, Perry is the only military veteran in the field– something we hear little about but should at least be a consideration when choosing our next commander in chief. Perry gets my vote.

    I was extremely disheartened when such an America-hating empty-suit like Obama was elected president. I was disgusted with how easily so many Americans were deceived. And now I am also disheartened with such a lack of discernment amongst so many conservatives who are blindly jumping on the Cain bandwagon, or supporting an immoral man like Gingrich, or a snake oil salesman like Romney.

  36. Xhossier @ 38
    I agree completely.
    I would ike to add that Perry’s Plan Eliminates the DEATH TAX!!!
    These Cain “trainers” will have to learn the hard way.
    CAIN = Empowerment Zones for Inner City Blacks. (otherwise….those that live OUTSIDE “Cain Zones” have NO tax relief…..aka …..better move to Inner City Detroit.
    Or INVEST in Detroit ((Company Headquater MUST be in INNER CITIES))
    Cain = 9 -0-9 Plan.
    P,S. >>>>> ive this a try ((( I was in ICU/Hospital)) Staff mostly. Very Very Nice ppl ….Until they discussed CAIN ((Nope…they do not like him))
    But, they will be quick to point out that Whitey has NO RIGHT to voice an opinion on either Obama OR Cain.
    Get real ppl. (((The Racial Divide willl persist…Even If CAIN begged for this to Stop)))

  37. Empowerment Zonees (Cain Zones) do NOT Include America’s URBAN Poor ….aka (Crackers and rednecks)
    CAIN picks the winners and losers. Period.

  38. When Cain falls back to earth, his support will transition back to Perry.

    Romney has 25% and this will not increase.

    Perry will keep honing his message leading up to Iowa, and he will win there.

    Romney will probably win New Hampshire. Perry must make sure he is not blown out there. Respectable 3rd place is sufficient.

    South Carolina is all Perry’s

    Nevada will be interesting, should lean toward Perry.

    It will come down to Super Tuesday.

    By then America will be paying attention, and Perry could be dominating.

  39. Gosh! @#20, you’re exactly right. We need to talk up our favorites, not tear down the others. The candidates would be well advised to do the same.

    The enemy is Obama.
    The enemy is Obama.
    The enemy is Obama.
    The enemy is Obama.

    Repeat.

  40. All Perry needs to do is tell us how he lowered health care costs in his state. In TX, is health insurance changing to a $3000 deductible for families and no co pays for everyone like everywhere else? My husband works for a very large company and apparently the CEO and others of large companies have decided to get together and make this the norm for all – . My paranoia says they are in it with obama to try to FORCE people off employer health insurance and into the government hands. They are trying to make it suck for everyone during hard economic times so that obamacare looks great.

    Perry needs to compare what was done in TEXAS with health care/insurance and the subsequent lower health care costs vs what was done in Massachusetts. The facts are out there. Then he needs to say he will implement his health care ideas to the rest of the states. This needs to be the next big plan he sets forth.

  41. Spider
    I agree that Cain is on the way back down, and some of that will now shift back to Perry with his new plan one up-ing Cain’s, but I think you’re wrong about Romney.

    Romney’s numbers aren’t going above 25 because conservatives don’t want him as their candidate.
    As time goes by, all he has to do is hold steady and seem inevitable, and the other candidates will drop out one by one. In the end, unless somebody else does bank 25% or more, Romney will walk into the nomination. He knows that, and that is why he isn’t fighting very hard. His conservative opponents are tarnishing each other for him, while his base of RINO and moderate Republicans stands firmly behind him.

    The good news is that whomever we pick is almost certain to win the election, so long as our side doesn’t stay home and pout if the RINO gets it. So the reign of Obama will be over after next year.

  42. ++

    SnowSoul #27 October 25, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    don’t tell me, the dog ate his homework and your his excuse.. /s/

    ==

  43. ++

    S. Wolf #31 October 25, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    i have posted nice articles about Perry, but Perrynoids refuse to read
    them, they automatically deem them as BASHING PERRY MATERIAL due
    to 2 factors. 1) bg posted the link ,2) the “sound bite”, as withthe REAL
    SCREWED HERMAN CAIN BASHING by Perrynoids headline tells the story..

    NO IT DOESN’T.. no skin off my back either..

    you want to talk about saying something nice??

    Perrynoids HATE me more than they LOVE Perry.. just read what they
    write about me, it’s truly Alinsky twisted disturbingly sick minds to rant
    on about anyone like that, never mind someone they don’t know or pay
    any attention to other than to consistently demonize..

    btw: this is not about me, nor Rubin (don’t know who she is, don’t
    give a bats guano), check Perry records out for yourself, both Palin
    & Bachmann have seriously questioned his shenanigans,

    crickets..

    are they Rubins too?? or is this an all white macho leader of
    the pack male, forget the facts & make excuses, thing?? /s/

    ==

  44. ++

    Gary #44 October 26, 2011 at 6:42 am

    re: [agree that Cain is on the way back down]

    oh no he isn’t..

    more via the net..

    ==

  45. ++

    SnowSoul #27 October 25, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    re: [So, let me guess: you hate every politician? No, that can’t be
    it. You’re a Palin fan, right? That annoying lady who abdicated her
    duties then took potshots from the sidelines after realizing she’ll
    never be elected? That’s the convenient answer, eh?
    ]

    I’M TEA PARTY PROUD – YOU’RE PERRYNOID STUPID

    simple as that..

    ==

  46. Cain is a fine gentleman, and is leading the debate right now, no question.

    I love the smoking guy, yellow teeth and all, very good stuff, drives libtards crazy – a worthy goal. But the political apparatus the way it is (not the way we may want it) will grind the message down.

    Perry has a seasoned ground machine working overtime for him.

    It may be ‘different’ this time, but nothing has changed. Retail politics will win out.

  47. Top o’ the mornin’ to ya! Yer up early ya are!

    Doesn’t look like yer disposition improves with rest tho. Could ya maybe tell us why?

  48. I’m with the Spider.

    Go Perry 2012!

  49. ++

    re: #47 October 26, 2011 at 6:52 am bg

    smokin’ Texas :-)

    ==

  50. No thanks. I’ll just vote for Rick

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    Student tickets are sold out. Looks Like there will be lots of grey haired and bald headed students.

  51. I have it on good account that all they will be smokin’ at the Woodlands is chicken.

  52. I think I’ll start posting all kinds of stuff about how my chosen candidate, Earl Pitts, is gonna whomp all the others, because everyone else running is a good-fer-nuthin’ dummy and a big fat liar.

  53. @#43 Jennifer

    Here ya go. This is a pilot program started in the Brazos valley I think…incentives for affordable insurance rates for small businesses. Gov. Perry thinks states should be laboratories for innovation at the local community level. This program wasn’t mandated but was a pilot program that began to spread regionally throughout the state and is managed by the private sector…It’s still new but I think the state subsidies are temporary until it takes off.

    http://texhealth.org/

  54. #48
    No, your excuses are absurd. There is no perfect candidate, so you’re ripping down the closest one. Bachmann? She’s a moron. Cain can’t even answer questions on abortion, which makes you wonder what exactly he was talking about on his radio show.

  55. New Perry Iowa ad…this comment from the thread.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vbqCEEg3b7E

    “Perry is underestimating how many jobs can be created by producing our own energy.

    There are currently more than 9 million Americans working in the Petroleum Industry yet we only produce about 35% of our own needs. There are several million more Americans employed in the coal industry. If we opened up all Federal Land and Offshore Leaseholds including ANWR, Alaska Offshore, East Coast, Gulf of Mexico, West Coast and the Rocky Mountain West we could be producing 100% of our own needs within 10 years. This would add upwards of 18 million new good paying jobs over the coming decade and keep more than $5 trillion here in our economy.”

  56. “Bottom line: If a President Perry could balance the federal budget by 2020 and cap spending at 18 percent of GDP — and if you buy the JDA analysis — the result would be a more financially stable America and a richer America than the current economic and budgetary trajectory would indicate….”

    http://blog.american.com/2011/10/the-revenue-and-gdp-impact-of-the-perry-flat-tax-plan-now-with-actual-num

  57. Good stuff workingclass!
    Keep it coming.

  58. There’s a brand spanking new coal fired power plant sitting idle (Sandy Creek) here in Central Texas because obama’s epa doesn’t like it that Texas went ahead and completed it on his watch.
    No doubt in anyones mind who’s costing people jobs around here.

  59. Called this one a long time ago now, Rick Perry is a Texas turd kicking boot-scooter and he will damage the Republican Party. Look at his latest plan for economic prosperity, does anyone believe it is something he was capable of coming up with? Does anyone believe he can explain it, defend it or provide a thought process on how it was derived? Of course not, this boob couldn’t say anything about an economic recovery plan until it was handed to him.

  60. ++

    re: #23 October 25, 2011 at 8:44 pm bg

    just a sample re: one issue:

    The GOP’s Solyndra Problem

    [That's because, unfortunately for Mr. Perry, drilling isn't the energy topic du jour. The buzz is the bankrupt Solyndra, which is why the only energy question that came to Mr. Perry at Tuesday's New Hampshire debate was this: How, exactly, is his state's vaunted "Emerging Technology Fund"—which has dumped some 200 million taxpayer dollars into private companies—any different from Obama programs that subsidized the likes of Solyndra?

    It isn't, of course, and that's a problem for Mr. Perry. The political merit
    of Solyndra is that it perfectly illustrates the failed Obama economic mentality—that politicians should allocate capital, that government creates industries. Nothing should be further from a free-market mentality, and Solyndra ought to be providing Republicans a potent contrast with the president. Instead, candidates like Mr. Perry and Mitt Romney are dragging green baggage. ]

    State loan program that Perry touted had to be bailed out

    Even as the first alarms were sounded, Perry defended the program,
    saying no taxpayer money was at risk, blaming others and claiming
    he had fixed it.

    It only got worse.]

    bit more here & here & elsewhere on the net..

    ==

  61. ++

    re: #23 October 25, 2011 at 8:44 pm bg
    re: #63 October 26, 2011 at 9:43 am bg

    Sarah Palin

    Michele Bachmann

    more here..

    ==

  62. @#63bg

    Lame DNC talking points….those companies created jobs in Texas so STFU!

    Your Perry derangement syndrome is amusing….Did you bash Gov. Palin like this?

  63. (What I can’t understand is the desire of some to allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good, maybe even the great)

    “He has proposed unleashing the American entrepreneurial spirit, freed from burdensome regulations, on our energy sector. He has proposed neutering the agencies that have prevented us from competing in the world market. He has proposed reforming the system of entitlements which serve to encourage sloth in the current generation and enslave future ones. He has proposed reforming our tax code which punishes success and perpetuates warfare among the classes. He has proposed binding the mischievous hands of Congress with an amendment limiting their ability to spend more than they can possibly take in, no matter what rate they try to put upon us. He has proposed ending the subversive chicane of baseline budgeting which allows a rise in the budget to be called a cut simply because it wasn’t raised as much as it was in the last budget.

    Frankly, he has proposed the last 30 years of conservative policy initiatives and he has been roundly berated for it….”

    http://www.redstate.com/aarongardner/2011/10/26/time-for-the-conservative-movement-to-wake-up/

  64. At least Perry’s our ‘boob’

    The boob in the WH has now been proven to be very, very dangerous

    Go read hillaryis44.com if you want a full catalog of the Won’s boobery

  65. ++

    Dear Red State et al..

    the 2012 candidate will be “we the people’s choice v B Hussein O”..

    not the candidate chosen for “we the people to choose v B Hussein O”..

    ==

  66. ++

    disclaimer re: #68 October 26, 2011 at 10:08 am bg

    we the people don’t VET, we the people deserve what we get..

    ==

  67. Yes, sorry to say Cain is on the way back down.
    His big bump was the Florida straw poll that followed on the heels of a bad Perry debate performance and the release of 999.

    Now 999 has been picked apart by all sides, Perry is out with a plan, Newt is out with a plan, and others will follow. It was a moment in the sun like a lot of candidates get.
    Don’t forget even Huntsman’s plan was well-received. He’s all but out of the race now.
    There is nothing left to prop up Cain with his plan being pushed aside.
    He may still get the VP offer from Romney. He definitely won’t get it from Perry, but Perry is likely to only see a small bump from Cain’s slide. They’ll both finish poorly before it’s over.
    Now cut out this bickering and support my candidate, Bachmann.

  68. ++

    nothing that can be revealed, no connections can be made, re: Obama
    that will be of news to me, as i had not only done my homework a long
    time ago and posted my findings ad nauseum, but most others who are
    supposedly in the know are still playing catch up..

    ==

  69. bg

    I’ve said it before. I agree with a lot of your posts here.
    But I think you’re losing your objectivity in favor of what you want to see happen.
    My analysis above is not what I want to see, but what I recognize as a familiar pattern in primary races. Just step back and look at the big picture. The objective facts don’t support a realistic chance for Cain to surge to victory in the spring.

  70. He’s sumed up all politicians. The only difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republican say they will steal less. Isn’t that nice!

  71. Texas enterprise fund created 54,259 jobs at the time of the state comptrollers report. Texas has a stringent open records law. This link provides a breakdown of the program since it’s implementation in 2003y the state legislature. It is one factor in a multifaceted economic platform approach in Texas. It is overseen by the Governors Office, The LT. Governors Office & The Speaker of the House Office. Reports are submitted to the State Comptroller and the Texas Legislature.

    The biggest complaint about the program has to do with frequency of reports in the public forum and how this affects “public perception”… This doesn’t take into account how long it takes to gather accurate data once an application is approved but let’s not quibble…

    Program Strengths:
    ” * The program was created in statute.
    * The awards are published online.
    * The funds are appropriated in the State Budget.
    * The state has final decision making ability.32
    * There is monitoring of grants with enforcement
    * The program can employ clawback provisions in the event that the grant recipient is unable to meet benchmarks set forth in contract.33
    * The application process allows for flexibility which allows agreements to be structured to maximize the benefit to the state.
    * The program has the ability to receive applications on a rolling-basis.34 This timing or speed in receiving/reviewing applications (and eventual decision regarding application) is a competitive factor in the State’s ability to recruit/retain firms.
    * Community support for a project is integral.
    * The program has a low cost per job and a low ratio of state investment to company investment.”

    Program Weaknesses:
    ” * Due to the flexibility of the decision-making process, the program appears less transparent at times causing a perception of outside influence.
    * The lack of General Revenue funds for grant management limits the program’s due diligence and compliance monitoring capabilities.”

    Program Recommendations:

    ” * Reporting. In addition to the biennial statutory report completed by the Governor’s office, it is recommended that the Texas Enterprise Fund adopt more frequent reporting to inform policy makers and the public about the progress of the program goals. Semi-annual or quarterly reports should include a summary of new contracts as well as a summary of amended contracts detailing the specific contracts amended and a short description of the nature of the amendment. Additionally, including tables such as the ones below would provide ongoing summary information about the program.”

    Link to data on the TEF and other programs.

    http://www.texasahead.org/reports/incentives/tef.php

  72. ++

    Gary #44 October 26, 2011 at 6:42 am
    Gary #70 October 26, 2011 at 10:15 am

    re: [Cain is on the way back down [..]
    His big bump was the Florida straw poll]

    where have you been??

    Cain wins big in South Carolina tea party straw poll

    Herman Cain 81% with GOP Voters in North Carolina

    ==

  73. @#62 CT

    “Look at his latest plan for economic prosperity, does anyone believe it is something he was capable of coming up with? Does anyone believe he can explain it, defend it or provide a thought process on how it was derived?”

    Might help if you actually read either plan…here’s a handy link to both.

    Cut Balance & Grow http://www.rickperry.org/cut-balance-and-grow-html/

    Energy & Jobs Security http://www.rickperry.org/energizing-american-jobs-html/

    Yes Perry can defend and promotes his plans…He is doing it now.

    Perry has plenty of time to become a better debater to face Obama who isn’t that good to begin with….Sheeesh!

    Gov.Perry is the only candidate with a demonstrable conservative record to counter Obama’s liberal governance failure.

  74. ++

    Rick Perry’s Texas jobs boom: The whole story

    pretty decent write up..

    iow: more factual than opinionated..

    ==

  75. @#62 CT

    These plans have Gov. Perry written all over them in both creative approach to problem solving and accessible language to the voter.
    Perry has a knack of building smart policy teams.

    Go ahead CT….name another state that has the job growth to match.Name another state who matches Texas leading in exports for 9 years in a row.

    If Gov.Perry’s conservative leadership can do this for Texas…He can do this for the nation.

  76. ++

    Gary #72 October 26, 2011 at 10:19 am

    that’s your perception..

    one the MSM and Republican establishment
    are working very hard at projecting for US..

    however, i’m aboard the Cain train until the last stop, albeit hopefully
    the White House, wherever fate, not the powers that be, takes it.. :-)

    ==

  77. @#77

    Texas is feeling the impact of absorbing economic refugee from other states as shown in the migration maps at the rate of 1500 per day.

    Same thing happened with California during the depression…Most of the right to work states are feeling the strain of economic refugee migration caused by Obamanomics.

    Texas sales tax receipts are back to 2008 levels which means that both the Rainy Day Fund will be back up to $7 Billion by 2013 and that Texas is heading out of the recession. This is being reflected in the construction industry which is starting to make a regional comeback…I’ve seen it.

  78. ++

    ps: Gary et al..

    Perry is the ONE!! :D

    hmm, now where hmm, have i heard hmm, that before??

    hmmmmmm?!?!?!?!?

    ==

  79. ++

    @ Perrynoids..

    explaining things does not negate Rick Perry’s lies about his wheelings
    and dealings, not to mention his wheelings & dealings, behind the jobs
    front, when all things considered, is still an edgy front at that..

    ==

  80. @bg

    Cain is using campaign funds to pay his own company to buy his books…He’s also still doing paid speaking tours while on the campaign trail.

    Too bad you don’t see the ethics of that…but y’know you spend all your time bashing Gov. Perry. You’ve been doing it ever since he entered the race.

    You have never had a open mind about his candidacy….and you claim to be a “conservative”

    You have been bouncing from “supporting” one candidate to the other while the only consistent thing you have done is bash Gov. Perry since day 1….You’re almost as bad as Jennifer Rubin at WAPO.

    I know why I support Gov. Perry….I live in Texas and I’ve seen the results of effective conservative governance. I also know what to mostly expect given that record.

    What is your excuse…An irrational dislike of Texas or is it Cowboys? It certainly isn’t his debate performance because your Perry Derangement Syndrome predated any of the debates and started at this board the day he announced.

  81. ++

    Sparky #32 October 25, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    albeit i suck at math, everyone has an opinion..

    here are 3 of mnay that i’m relying on..

    ==

  82. @ bg

    You have ZERO credibility as an objective clear thinking conservative…You reveal it every day with your increasingly irrational Perry Derangement Syndrome.

    You might as well be a liberal posting at HuffPo or DailyKos.

    (eyes rolling here)

  83. There was a Sparky that used to post at the old Rathergate site until she was banned. Any connection?

  84. Draft Earl Pitts.

  85. ++

    workingclass artist #83 October 26, 2011 at 11:04 am

    October 18, 2011

    Herman Cain’s Campaign Contributions
    Scrutinized: No Special Interest Groups Found

    ps re: #64 October 26, 2011 at 9:53 am bg

    re: jobs, stimulus

    ==

  86. ++

    workingclass artist #85 October 26, 2011 at 11:09 am

    aah, something IslaMarxists do not comprehend, facts go in one
    direction, opinions, of which say more about you than me, work
    both ways..

    ==

  87. I’ve been an independent my whole voting life. I’ve never voted for a democrat, even in local races. In 2010 we got rid of the marxist, John Hall in our district and sent Nan Hayworth to Congress.

    This year I changed my registration to Repbulican so that I could vote in the presidential primary next year.

    Being a New York resident, the primary will be my only chance to influence who will be our next president. Hopefully NY Republicans will choose a conservative.

    I doubt NY’s electoral votes have any chance of going to the Republican, but I can dream.

    The good news is NY will be down 2 electoral votes in 2012, so the state’s influence is decreasing.

  88. ++

    btw Sparky #32 October 25, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    Canada’s health care is in ruins.. and this should interest not only you, but every person on the face of the planet who desires to either be or keep their FREEDOM free..

    ps re: #64 October 26, 2011 at 9:53 am bg

    The Rick Perry Primer

    ==

  89. Cain’s Campaign Paid His Company to Buy His Books.

    “Herman Cain’s case against pundits claiming he’s running a book tour rather than a presidential campaign just got a bit more complicated.

    Federal Election Commission records show that the former Godfather’s Pizza executive paid more than $64,000 of his presidential campaign funds to his motivational speaking company, T.H.E. New Voice Inc., for copies of his own books, and for lodging, airfare, and resources, Bloomberg News reports. Cain’s third-quarter filing reported his campaign had spent $4 million through Sept. 30.

    Previous rulings by the FEC have allowed candidates to use their campaign funds to buy their own books, as long as the purchase is at market value and the money goes to charity rather than to personal profit. But Bill Allison, editorial director at the Washington, D.C.-based Sunlight Foundation, told Bloomberg that Cain’s case should raise some eyebrows.

    “All candidates publish books and they offer them as premiums to donors, but most candidates aren’t buying them from their own companies,” Allison said. “It raises the question of his campaign contributions ending up in his own pocket.”

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/cain-s-campaign-paid-his-company-to-buy-his-books-20

  90. The Bloomburg Report…

    “Although his autobiography was published by a division of Simon & Schuster Inc., Cain paid Stockbridge, Georgia-based T.H.E New Voice Inc. $36,511 for books. His campaign spent $4 million through Sept. 30, including more than $64,000 paid to his motivational speaking company for airfare, lodging and supplies, as well as the books….

    The FEC has let campaigns buy candidates’ books as long as they don’t profit by the sale. In 2001, the commission said the campaign committee of then-Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania could buy the lawmaker’s autobiography to give to donors, provided the he didn’t receive royalties or count those books in calculations of future payments. The FEC issued a similar ruling in 2004 concerning Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman, an independent….

    Cain’s company website promotes both “This Is Herman Cain!: My Journey to the White House” and a booklet, “Leadership Requires Leadership.” His campaign website includes a link to his company….”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-18/cain-used-campaign-funds-to-buy-autobiography.html

  91. Good points Spider.
    Perry can deliver 38 of those electoral votes right up front coming out of the gate. Cancels a bundle of little pissant blue state electorals even though they vote primaries a month or six weeks before we do. Cain would be lucky to carry his home state if his Senate run in ’04 was any gauge of his vote getting
    But that’s the way it is and you plan accordingly, or not in his case. He still doesn’t have a team assembled that can push a national RACE. Book tours don’t count and probably won’t get many votes

  92. @#90 Spider

    “I doubt NY’s electoral votes have any chance of going to the Republican, but I can dream.”

    Every conservative vote matters at every level of every city,county,state. It took years for Texas to turn red…and it was voters like you who did it. In fact Texas only got a republican majority in both houses in the last election. Texas had a strong tradition of Bluedogs many of whom went over to the republican party in the mid 80′s and early 90′s. Some of these folks are our strongest conservatives. One approach is to swing the local bluedogs in your community because like Reagan their party has left them and fiscal conservatives on either side can agree on the principles of smaller govt. and State Rights. It’s what happened here in Texas and something we will have to continue as more and more liberal economic refugees move here and bring their failed liberal politics with them.

    So Keep up the Good Fight.

    :)

  93. ++

    workingclass artist #92 October 26, 2011 at 11:34 am

    “raise eyebrows”??

    [Cain says the books are being given away to supporters to acquaint voters with his life story. One of the books in question, Cain's autobiography "This is Herman Cain! My Journey to the White House," was in fourth place on the New York Times bestseller list over the weekend. Other publications bought by the campaign are his earlier book, "They Think You're Stupid: Why Democrats Lost Your Vote and What Republicans Must Do to Keep It" and a pamphlet about leadership. [

    heh, i would imagine it would have at least exploded a few heads..

    uh, okay, i'll get right on it!!

    here you go!!

    [It’s clear that in terms of geography Cain’s money base is in the South. The FEC has nifty interactive maps that show the amount individual candidates get from each state, and Cain’s biggest haul came from his home state of Georgia. Texas is second, and Florida third. He did respectably in California, but got very little cash from the power corridors of New York. [aah, NY, i hardly recognize ya.. *sigh*]

    oh btw re: your link: Page Not Found

    so allow me to me help you out, here you go again..

    ==

  94. Look everyone flipflopper #2 called flipflopper #1 a flipflopper. Alert the media!

    Neither one of these fools is worth your vote.

  95. ++

    Child Health Scorecard : #48 : 2011

    TEXAS : 36th : 2010

    Debt per capita: $8,711 (36th)
    Unemployment rate: 8.3% (24th)
    Home price change (2006-2009): 10.4% (16th)
    Median household income: $48,259 (25th)

    The second most populous state in the nation, Texas scores fairly average in most categories. But there are two areas where Texas places dead last. The Lone Star State has the lowest percentage of its 25 and older population with a high school diploma — one in every five fails to obtain a high school education. Also, 23.8% of its population does not have health insurance, the worst rate in the country.

    State Scorecard : #46 : 2009

    ==

  96. Herman Cain is using Campaign funds for his own profit…and it will catch up with him.

  97. ++

    workingclass artist #101 October 26, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    so where’s the frog march you fiberals crave??

    didn’t think so..

    raise eyebrows, indeed..

    Rick Perry’s Crony Capitalism Problem

    [Among the companies that the Emerging Technology Fund has invested in is Convergen LifeSciences, Inc. It received a $4.5 million grant last year—the second largest grant in the history of the fund. The founder and executive chairman of Convergen is David G. Nance.

    In 2009, when Mr. Nance submitted his application for a $4.5 million Emerging Technology Fund grant for Convergen, he and his partners had invested only $1,000 of their own money into their new company, according to documentation prepared by the governor's office in February 2010. But over the years, Mr. Nance managed to invest a lot more than $1,000 in Mr. Perry. Texas Ethics Commission records show that Mr. Nance donated $75,000 to Mr. Perry's campaigns between 2001 and 2006.

    [..]

    Michael Quinn Sullivan, the president of Texans for Fiscal Responsibility, sees in the Emerging Technology Fund a classic example of the perils of government pork. “The problem with these kinds of funds is that even when they’re used with the best of intentions, it looks bad,” says Mr. Sullivan. “You’re taking from the average taxpayer and giving to someone who has a connection with government officials.”]

    much more @ link & here & here & here & here (again, just a sample)..

    ==

  98. ++

    Rick Perry Became a Millionaire WHILE Serving as Texas Governor

    [With the pay-to-play Solyndra scandal rocking the White House, presidential hopeful Rick Perry is embroiled in a mountain of crony capitalism controversy all his own. During the September 12 GOP presidential debate, Michelle Bachmann exposed the money trail behind Perry’s Executive Order mandating all 6th grade girls in Texas receive the Gardasil HPV vaccine made by the drug company, Merck, the employer of Perry’s former Chief of Staff, Mike Toomey, at the time. Merck funneled money to Perry, initially $5,000, but eventually adding up to the tidy sum of closer to $400,000, sparking outrage across Texas and now the nation.

    Toomey’s just the tip of the ice berg.

    [..]

    Rick Perry’s crony capitalism wasn’t just a fleeting lapse of judgment pertaining to the HPV scandal, it’s a consistent pattern of revolving door, pay-to-play crony capitalism that Americans detest and can ill afford.]

    more @ link, a bit more here & in previous posts..

    ==

  99. You live in a blue state don’t you, bg? Clean it up and get back to us. By then you might have learned enough about politics to discuss it

  100. ++

    daryl #104 October 26, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    uh-oh, your Alinsky slip is showing again.. :-(

    ==

  101. Know a lot about Alinsky, do we bg? Care to explain?
    I learned what I know about him from reading a book by David Horowitz, who is a very conservative writer.
    Somehow I think you could spout all thirteen of his rules by rote (with a little help from google).

  102. ++

    daryl #106 October 26, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    sure, SIN for short..

    ==

  103. Hope you’ve steeled yourself to the fact that he will more than likely end his campaign when all of the books are sold.
    I know three let downs in a row are going to be hard to endure but you’ve got to be strong.
    Maybe if you would pick someone who stood a fart in a whirlwind chance of winning……….
    Just received a call from ‘ol “Cornbread” himself… he wanted to know was I registered to vote?
    I asked him “does a bear sh*t in the woods” and the line went dead.
    I thought it was a computer generated recording but unless he has sarcasm recognizing soft-ware …….nah.

  104. Told you no more of your links and I told you why.
    You need to be more specific because I, nor anyone else gets your drift. I’m not sure you youself do.

  105. ++

    daryl #109 October 26, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    you not only totally ignore anything i state about myself, but evidently
    pull crap out of your you know what and pretend to talk to and about
    me as if you now me. delusional daryl about says it all.. *sigh*

    ==

  106. never “nowed” you, nor plan to “now” you in the future. whatever the hell that means?

  107. ++

    bottom line: an election based on emotion is how we got Obama..

    i do not get emotionally attached to any candidate, just their policies..
    if he loses, he loses, i’m going to support him come hell or high water
    because he supports a majority of what i support v Michele, Mitt, Rick,
    Newt, etc.. although i do wish Bachmann could come across better in
    public, the country as a whole appears to hate women lately… *sigh*

    ==

  108. ++

    daryl #112 October 26, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    it was a freakin’ typo genius..

    ==

  109. ++

    All traces of Perry/Aga Khan curriculum removed from web

    [Now that impression is compounded by the fact that even the cached
    links no longer work: the Perry/Aga Khan curriculum has been completely
    wiped from the web. Pamela Geller has screenshots here, however.]

    good job PG!!

    ==

  110. the cached
    links no longer work

    why you shouldn’t link to six month old links

  111. ++

    which links are you talking about??

    i purposely checked them out before posting, and had
    no problem, but i can relocate any you care to peruse..

    btw, you didn’t click on my links remember????????????

    ==

  112. ++

    daryl #116 October 26, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    every link/connecting link, except for
    the following, works perfectly fine..

    last here link in #23 doesn’t work, no biggie..

    i or 2 links are over 6 months old, no biggie..

    #107 replacement link, no biggie..

    daryl = THE SKY IS FALLING!! THE SEAS ARE
    RISING!! HELP ME, HELP ME, DARYL CRIED!!

    ==

  113. ++

    re: #118 October 26, 2011 at 8:26 pm bg

    uhg, i am only doing this for the geniASS (on
    purpose pun) that hangs on my every word..

    i or 2 = 1 or 2

    ==

  114. ++

    ps: daryliar #116 October 26, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    I DID NOT POST ANY “CACHED” LINKS.. go figure..

    ==

  115. kept you busy for a while though didn’t it??? guppy!

  116. The argument against Herman Cain | The Daily Caller

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/05/the-argument-against-herman-cain/

    “According to the latest CBS poll, Herman Cain is tied for first place in the GOP primary race. While this is big news, Cain’s status as a top-tier candidate will present new challenges and invite greater scrutiny. There is, after all, an advantage to remaining just below the radar. If Cain remains viable, he can expect closer examination from the media and his opponents (this is only fair: Perry, Romney, and Bachmann have aroused such scrutiny.)

    Take for example, Cain’s support of Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP). Most conservatives disdain TARP, and my guess is that — just as many of Perry’s early supporters were unaware of some of Perry’s positions — many of Cain’s new supporters don’t realize he supported TARP.

    And Cain didn’t just support it in the abstract. In 2008, he wrote passionately in support of the program, arguing: “Wake up people! Owning a part of the major banks in America is not a bad thing. We could make a profit while solving a problem.”

    Cain’s service as chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in 1995 and 1996 might also be an issue for some tea party conservatives (though it also might help him with others).

    Like the rest of the GOP field, Cain is not 100 percent ideologically pure. Still, his greatest challenge won’t be to prove his conservative bona fides, but rather, to overcome the electability issue.

    Republicans are obviously desperate to seize this golden opportunity to oust Obama, and one wonders if Cain — who’s never been elected to anything — can pull it off. The last time the GOP nominated a candidate who never held elected office or served in a high military position Wendell Willkie was nominated.

    To be sure, Cain’s lack of electoral experience (and, in fairness, his plethora of business experience) has been spun to help him in the primaries. But when the stakes are raised, it will ultimately be a net loss. Political experience is often derided, but it often serves prepares candidates to understand a myriad of complex issues, as well as to avoid common gaffes.

    The fact that Cain stumbled on a question about the Palestinian “right of return” to Israeli territory should give pause to anyone concerned about foreign policy and international relations. Republicans also have reason to fear Cain could — at any moment — commit a serious gaffe that might derail his campaign. For example, his comments that he wouldn’t appoint a Muslim to his administration set back his campaign for weeks.

    In a general election, that might have doomed him. Cain will have to convince Republican voters that he can avoid gaffes on the trail if he is to be the nominee.”

  117. ++

    re: daryl #122 October 27, 2011 at 7:21 am

    today’s date:

    October 27, 2011

    article daryl posted date:

    October 5, 2011

    ==

  118. ++

    daryl #122 October 27, 2011 at 7:21 am

    yep, same old crap that was built on “sound bites” & debunked several
    times since, but daryl the devout Perrynoid keeps diggin for the gig em..

    October 26, 2011: listen & weep..

    Herman Cain Tops New Polls, Causes Stir With Campaign Ad

    [There's new evidence that Herman Cain has indeed taken
    over the status as frontrunner for the Republican nomination.

    Now, according to a Fox News poll released just a short time ago,
    Herman Cain now leads Mitt Romney by four points, Newt Gingrich
    rounds out the top three with 12 percent, followed by Rick Perry
    and Ron Paul. Now, to put in perspective Cain's epic surge, he
    received only six percent of the vote when the survey was taken
    back in August.

    Now meanwhile, right here in Ohio, things are no different for Cain. A
    Quinnipiac poll release today has him on top with 28 percent of the vote,
    leading Romney by five points. Ron Paul is in third with just eight percent
    of the vote.

    So, what's even more interesting, in a three-way primary race between
    Cain, Romney and Perry in Ohio, Cain defeats Romney by seven points
    and Perry by 30.]

    ==

  119. ++

    daryl #121 October 27, 2011 at 6:47 am

    btw you not only outright lie about me and admit it..

    but you obviously believe i sit in baited
    breathe waiting on your evry post??

    that’s a reversal of truth if there ever was one..

    guppy or not, you are one sick puppy darylinsky..

    i will pray for you to get well..

    ==

  120. I admit nothing charged from you. You, who can’t cobble a legible sentence, nor punctuate it if you could.
    Your starting to sound more and more like that guy apostle claver. hope he doesn’t decide to prosecute for the plagierizing of his work.

  121. winning straw polls doesn’t win elections………. never has…… never will…. so sorry.
    cainiacs…..uhh.

  122. If he can’t handle a book tour off his meds do we need him as prez?

    Herman Cain Back on His Meds

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1684988/pg1

  123. Herman Cain and his lovely wife of 40 + years will be giving an interview soon! Fox did not say with whom! I hope that it will be with Greta. :)

  124. bg…#129

    The doctor said:

    Rick Perry does not recognize that having so many high school drop outs and low-income jobs with its resultant lack of health care is even a problem. But please don’t pick Perry to try to lead our country.

    If Perry is such a wonderful governor then why don’t the Texans want to keep him instead of dumping him off on us other 49 states? We already have A Bilderberger/OWO and we do not need another one!

    Here comes bashing the doctor from the know it alls! :) But…but they don’t do that ! Oh, no not the trolls!

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