FOX News analyst and former Bush advisor Karl Rove laid out all the reasons why he believes Herman Cain’s presidential campaign is finished today on FOX Business. Rove listed several of Cain’s recent gaffes to show why Cain’s popularity won’t continue.

“I think it has created an image of him as not being up to this task,” he said. “That’s really deadly.”

Rove also has openly attacked the Perry campaign.
Business Insider reported, via Free Republic:

 

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  1. Carl wants to keep the status quo as close to the old normal as possible. In the meantime the world has passed him by.

    The only thing I’d really enjoy about a Cain presidency would be the political panic on both sides.

    Popcorn time.

    That said, we’ve already had somebody who knows nothing about running a country run the country. At least Cain knows how to make change.

  2. Wow – I guess he really, REALLY believes it Mitt’s turn, huh? And he’ll say and do anything to see that Romney gets the nomination. Sigh…

  3. Meh….Carl reports for the GOP and Cain is his own man. I like a guy that can speak his mind without polling first

  4. ……and I think most conservative people know the difference

  5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZHRgTskEhE

    Everyone needs to watch this almost ten minute video. For some reason it seems different than others I have watched. The answer to the saving of America is clear, but you must watch the video to the end to find out what it is. Our individual saving and that of our nations have always been with our adherence to God’s commandments, but the U.S. is at a certain stage, and Yuri gives the answer.

  6. Hey Karl… George Bush was 8 years of gaffe. And it’s been nothing but downhill since then, thanks to your support for RINO McCain and his proclivity for being a wimp except when it comes to attacking conservatives.

    Screw off, Beltway Boy.

  7. Washington Establishment criticizes Outsider. Again.

    They will always circle the wagons to protect the Establishment, whether R or D.

  8. Cain seems to be a man of good moral character, and quite frankly, that is far more important than getting in a man who is nothing but a liar and fraud. Cain just needs to be true to himself and God, and if God wills it for America, he will succeed. Abortion is the genocide of the unborn, and if Rove has a problem with that fact and believes a man should just keep his beliefs to himself, then he should just shut-up himself and go crawl under a rock.

  9. What will the sheeple of the right do now?

  10. Karl Rove credibility diminish and is losing his clout to republican establishment.

  11. Rove, I realize you make your living giving your views on the Political scheme of things. But your opinions aren’t going to make a heck of a difference come election time.

    American voters a big percentage of them in 08 voted with their feet. This time around I do believe that Americans won’t give a hoot what you or anyone says this time around. We have proof just how destructive this administration has been and the lack of Economical and Foreign Policies around the world.

    Scribble a little more on that board, compare what Obama knew about anything, especially to Cain’s Business experience. 0- O 100- C!

    So, you need to go back to the drawing board, Rove.

  12. RNC/Rove/Medved will give us another Progressive and no choice, just the lesser of two evils.
    I will vote for Obongo rather than a fake conservative like Romney.

  13. Used to be only the left hated Karl Rove. Now he has expanded his non-fans to include Conservatives. Sorry we won’t follow the RINO path you have laid our for us Karl.

    Herman Cain is a decent man who is not afraid to be human and honest enough to own his mistakes. Can’t say that for the status quo. You can write Romney’s name on that white board of yours and stick where the sun don’t shine.

  14. ++

    the wanna be to cons what Bill Mayer is to libs Karl
    Rove, the irrelevant cheap shot turd blossom king..

    ==

  15. Cain needs some speech writers to help him or how about a teleprompter so he can lie like Obama. Please, Karl….There are some puppies in a basket you can give you opinions too.

    Americans are going to Vote the way the feel at the moment just before election time. What happens between now and then is really all that matters. Things can change soooo much between now and Election Day. So, these 5 minutes of opinion at this early date doesn’t matter a hill of beans.

  16. I can’t stand Rove, but Cain’s comments on abortion are ridiculous. That being said, if he’s the best way to avoid Romney I’ll take him.

  17. Trust Karl Rove to be wrong again: a businessman such as Cain is the right man for the job.

  18. #9 Ripped: Crawl back into your #OWS refrigerator box.

  19. rove is a smart guy too often he has to show everybody

    rove will push romney all day and all night. the rhinos are speaking

  20. Cain comments are taken many ways IMO, if a woman wants to abort a baby she will do it no matter what.

    Cain doesn’t want to see a baby killed, geesh louise! People get a grip. He is a real and sane man. What he said, I did understand, so call me crazy. I REALLY DON’T CARE!

    I am pro life and always will be. A baby we are talking about and Cain doesn’t want to see babies aborted.

    THIS IS OBAMA:

    http://www.weirdrepublic.com/episode90.htm

    People are soon to forget. And they are soon to forget Wright, Ayers, Khalidi and others who have supported the views of radical Obama.

  21. #19………..LOL

  22. Rove: Shove your little whiteboard where the sun don’t shine.
    Ripped: Wow. You’re EVER so clever. Off you go, Little Troll.

  23. I could care less what Karl Rove has to say about any of these candidates. He is the epitome of Republican establishment / big government RINO. This is precisely why he is supporting Big Government RomneyCare – Mitt Romney.

    Voting for Mitt Romney, or even Rick Perry, is a vote for big government.

  24. If you want Cain you’re going to have to shell out a little more support.
    This little shortfall of his called funding will sink him if his other gaffes doesn’t regardless
    of what Rove or anyone think or say.

    Herman Cain Only Has ‘Several Hundred Thousand Dollars’ In The Bank

    http://www.businessinsider.com/herman-cain-only-has-a-few-hundred-thousand-dollars-in-the-bank-2011-10

  25. Yeah, coulda seen this coming weeks ago, as matter of fact, I said pretty much this. Cain is a nice guy with interesting ideas but his mouth gets ahead of his brain and it’s gonna get him in trouble.

  26. #21 October 24, 2011 at 10:59 am
    Patty commented:

    Sorry Patty, but you can’t have it both ways. Either you believe abortion is murder or you don’t. If you do, it should be illegal.

  27. The more CR is against Cain, the more I like Cain.

  28. Rove is a serious problem, an obstacle, for real conservatives – and Fox News is helping him.

  29. Hey Carl, Herman Cain has donated over $1million dollars of his own money to PRO-LIFE causes, how much money did you give fat boy?

  30. shrek (#25) – Things are picking up for Cain financially speaking. He will still need more to beat back the GOP progressives like Rove and Romney.

    Campaign: Cain raising $1 million a week in October
    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/23/8456729-campaign-cain-raising-1-million-a-week-in-october

  31. Who is Karl Rove and why should I give a flying fig about what he thinks of Herman Cain. Go away Karl, you bother me.

  32. #27

    StrangernFiction

    on a roll today, uh. Did you really read what I posted. Did you, uh, did you?

  33. Both ways business doesn’t cut it and that is not what Cain meant.

    Cain position on Abortion

    Pro-Life “I am pro-life from conception”

    Can’t get any clearer than that.

  34. Shut up Carl!

    Everyone knows you will do and say anything to anyone who gets in the way of your Mitt.

  35. Old, stale Rove approach or a fresh new Cain approach?

    I’ll go with Cain!

    I’m sure Rove could offer a thousand reasons why Cain should not run for president.

    I offer one: I like him, I trust him, and Mr. Cain offers us our best chance to defeat the arrogant piece of trash we have in office now.!

  36. let’s get real – in the primaries we fight like hell for the candidate that’s not the RINO. if some way some how that doesn’t happen and MITT with the glossy hair comes in and wins the day OR if its close enough that the convention decides, WHATEVER – I’m voting for whoever has R after their name and then down ballot making sure every person is very conservative to hold MITT’S feet to the fire.

    Get your heads on straight. We’re trying to beat Obama – not ourselves. If its MITT at the END OF THE DAY – its MITT (ugh), but down ballot, you make sure in your state, in your congressional district you get the BEST conservative candidate you can so MITT has nowhere to go but RIGHT.

    Don’t you guys play football? Same dif: if the QB is your 2nd string and weak, you put in your best offensive line that you’ve paid big bucks for in the off season for just this purpose. and i’m a GIRL.

  37. There’s Karl with his trusty board again. Does anyone watch him anymore? We’ll let you know who the nominee is going to be Karl. Karl, you’re old news. You’re not relevant anymore. The people are going to decide.

  38. I haven’t decided who I will vote for yet. The only thing I know for sure, is that it won’t be Romney or Huntsman.

  39. Is Rove shooting for a self-fulling prophecy?

  40. By Rovian Standards Obama was finished before he was elected.

  41. Karl is right; Cain keeps making big mistakes. I want Obama to be frogmarched out of the White House in chains, but let’s not get desperate, people. Cain has been flip-flopping all over the place. Not good.

  42. I love Cain, but even I wonder about his overall judgment with the things he says. How much longer before the press devours him? Will he pull the race card? It will get ugly by then.

    Insult me as you will, but there is only one solution to all:

    PALIN/RUBIO 2012.

    She WILL reconsider if there is a reason to do so.

  43. ++

    Patty #21 October 24, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Amen..

    so sick of “sound bites” being taken a fact..

    we know there is no such thing as facts when it comes to the left..

    however, there’s evidently no such a thing as “taken
    in context” when it comes to the right anymore.. :-(

    oh wait..

    A Mea Culpa on Herman Cain and Abortion

    [I have come to understand that Herman Cain has in reality done far more for the pro-life movement than I ever have. For instance, he donated $1 million of his own money in an attempt to encourage black voters to vote pro-life. His 2004 Senate campaign made life a central issue. His work opposing abortion – especially among the black population – has led many leftist organizations to denounce him with hysterical, shrieking screeds; which is probative evidence of the fact that they were to some degree effective.

    Herman Cain’s statements on abortion during this campaign season have not been as clear as they should have been. I have no idea why he couldn’t have re-issued his 2004 statement when questioned this year. There is no reason that someone possessed of pro-life convictions that are as firm as Herman Cain’s undoubtedly are should have stumbled badly enough to trip the radar of many pro-lifers. I am sure I am not the only one who hasn’t paid very close attention to Herman Cain’s career prior to three weeks ago, and did not know these facts about him and thus could not place his statements to Piers Morgan, David Gregory, and John Stossel in that context.]

    thank you Red State, SO CALLED CONSERVATIVE / TEA PARTY BLOGGERS NEED TO WAKE THE HELL UP & GET THEIR HEAD/LINE/S STRAIGHT, gah!!

    ==

  44. THE RISE OF HERMAN CAIN: GOP VOTERS GIVE HIMA DOUBLE-DIGIT LEAD OVER ROMNEY
    Thisweek’s
    Economist
    /YouGovPollresultsprovidenodoubtwhotheGOPfavoriteis: businessman Herman Cain has a double-digit lead over former MassachusettsGovernor Mitt Romney. And now Cain’s popularity with registered voters who saythey will vote in a Republican primary or caucus next year is not only because of his support from those GOP voters who identify with the Tea Party.
    If you had to choose one, which of these individuals would you wantto be the Republican nominee for president in 2012?

    Registered voters who are likelyto vote in Republican primary or caucusAll Tea Party followers Non-Tea Party followersMitt Romney 21% 19% 22%
    Newt Gingrich 11% 11% 10%
    Michele Bachmann 4% 2% 6%
    Jon Huntsman 3% 0% 6%
    Ron Paul 10% 10% 9%
    Herman Cain 31% 38% 24%
    Rick Santorum 3% 4% 2%
    Rick Perry 8% 8% 7%
    Gary Johnson 0% 1% 0%
    Other 5% 3% 6%No preference 6% 4% 8%

    Cain leads Romney 31% to 21% among all Republican voters, and by 38% to 19%among Tea Partiers (who make up nearly half of all Republican voters).
    He andRomney are co-frontrunners with the 56% of Republican voters who do not iden-tify with that group.
    24% of non-Tea Party GOP voters favor Cain, 22% Romney.As for the rest of the field, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Texas Congress-man Ron Paul and Texas Governor Rick Perry have the support of about one in tenGOP voters. Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, once a favorite, hasdropped to only 4% support.Cain may yet have a long way to go to reach Democratic and independent voters.But Republican voters see him as caring, sharing their values, tough and capable

    enough to do the job. In fact, he does better than Romney does with Republicanvoters when it comes to caring about them, and sharing their values.
    He is tough enough forthe job of president.He understandscomplex issues.He sharesmy values.He cares about peoplelike me.
    68%68%68%63%48%65%50%63%Herman CainMitt Romney
    Please tell us whether you agree or disagree with each of thefollowing statements about these Republican presidential candidates.
    (Registered voters who are likely to vote in Republican primary or caucus)
    Displaying percent who agree only
    But among the public overall, both Cain and Romney are seen mostly negatively.However, Americans are more likely to see both Republicans as tough enough tohandle the job. Romney scores better than Cain with the public overall when itcomes to understanding the complex problems a President must face, and havingthe overall qualifications to be a good president.Romney is seen as more electable that Cain is. By 40% to 27%, Americans think the President would defeat Cain. They see a Romney-Obama matchup as morecompetitive. But both men would now give President Barack Obama a very closecontest if next November’s election were being held today. When registered votersare asked who they would support today, Obama leads Romney by just four points,and Cain by just three.

    Mitt RomneyHerman Cain
    45%41%8%6%45%42%6%7%
    Barack ObamaRepublican CandidateOtherNot sure
    If the 2012 presidential election were being held today,and the candidates were Barack Obama, the Democrat,and the following Republican candidate, would you vote forBarack Obama or the Republican candidate?
    (Registered voters only)
    WHAT’S 9-9-9?: MOST HAVE HEARD OF IT, BUTAMERICANSOPPOSECAIN’SPLAN35%TO24%
    Businessman Herman Cain’s top economic proposal is his 9-9-9 tax plan: a 9%federal business tax, a 9% federal payroll tax and a 9% sales tax. Two out of threerespondents in the latest
    Economist
    /YouGov Poll have heard of this plan — and —more importantly – so have 84% of Republican primary voters.GOP voters and the public overall hold very different opinions of 9-9-9: Repub-lican voters are twice as likely to favor as oppose it, while the public is negative.However, many people aren’t sure quite what to think of it.

  45. #27 October 24, 2011 at 11:07 am
    StrangernFiction commented:

    False dichotomy. If you were by chance to bother to look up and read the Roe v. Wade decision, you’d find out why it remains the law. The reason is that there is a section that talks about a grant of power to the Federal government. The judges point out that once the government has the power to intervene in a decision, there is no way to compel a decision one way or the other.

    A grant of power to the Federal government to deny abortions is also and inevitably the grant of power to compel them.

    By their decision, the judges forced every abortion decision to be made on an individual basis by the people most affected. That way, at least there will be no wholesale slaughter of the innocents.

    At the time, the general reaction was “that couldn’t happen in this country” and a number of people tried to formulate ways to both outlaw abortion and keep the government from changing its policy in the future. The action by China to discourage population growth, and the resulting numbers of abortions and infanticides of female children on such a scale that the population became lopsided, was a big wake-up call.

    To put it another way, the Roe v. Wade decision keeps Barney Frank from being involved in abortion decisions. You can, of course, fill in the name of any politician you despise in that sentence.

    Isn’t that a good thing?

    Or at least, a least-worst option?

  46. If Romney turns out to be the nominee, fine. But for now, we still have a choice. And if I had to vote in the primaries today, I’d vote for Cain.

  47. Women and blacks need not apply to Karl for leadership positions inside his big tent.

  48. Who cares about Karl Rove? He campaigned against Christine O’Donnell too.

  49. Personally, not happy with any candidate. That worries me. I realize the economy is the real issue and the Independents will make or break the next presidential election.

    The minority voters are unsure, unless Obama promises more lies. Now, Executive Power will be used for Obama’s Job Bill.

    That said, we now our seeing the leftovers of a president that is so radical and so hateful towards the Republican Party. Negotiations are NOT in this man vocabulary. He feels puffy today. Gaddafi is gone, BinLaden gone, The other guy, name fails be drone got him, so now, here we got, Dictator will rule the land and there isn’t on stinking thing we can do about it.

    Thanks Congress, time for some of you to go too.

  50. Thanks for your opinion Mr. Rove.. I’ll be sure to send an extra $5 to Mr. Cain.

  51. OT-

    ‘We Can’t Wait’

    President Obama is coining a new campaign slogan for a three-day western campaign fundraising tour, along with executive action that would not need Congressional approval on some mortgage and student loan relief.

    “We Can’t Wait” is the battle cry he takes first to Las Vegas, where the president intends to stand on the front porch of a home and announce that his administration will ease the rules for homeowners who want to renegotiate their federally backed mortgages. In Las Vegas, one in every 39 homes is in foreclosure, the worst rate in the nation.

    The president’s action would “knock down these barriers which will help responsible borrowers with little or no equity in their homes take advantage of today’s low mortgage rates,” according to an administration official. “Those will include removing caps for deeply underwater borrowers and cutting costs of refinancing” for families with federally-backed mortgages.

    In Colorado on Wednesday, President Obama will announce easier rules on repayment of college loans.

    On a bus tour last week, President Obama began the drumbeat of criticism for Congressional inaction, telling crowds, “The election is 13 months away. And folks can’t afford to wait that long” for action on job creation.

    But Republicans are quick to point out the president’s expensive stimulus plan has failed to work, and in an email of news clippings critical of his record, the Republican National Committee dubs this week’s trip the “West Coast Misery Tour.”

    A harsh web video comes from the National Republican Senatorial Committee, which is gearing up for a big Senate race in Nevada next year. The video portrays Nevada as a disaster zone and President Obama as descending in to a post-apocalyptic seeming world to survey the scene. Watch it here: http://www.youtube.com/embed/5CSXGlkq_SQ

  52. Where’s the TEA PARTY?

  53. In the last week, President Obama has moved up six points in Gallup’s approval-rating tracker.

    Obama registered at a 38 percent approval between Oct. 15 and 17. His number between Thursday (when Muammar Qadhafi was killed) and Saturday is 44 percent.

    His disapproval rating, now at 47 percent, has been higher than his approval rating since late July.

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/1011/theres_the_bounce_78dbedfd-8018-49ac-8878-ead83cddd7ab.html
    you HAVE GOT TO SEE THIS PICTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  54. just terrible news but will have a short lived life span.

  55. Rise of Herman Cain

    Herman Cain is very threatening to the old guard and the old way of thinking for he isn’t to be an example of a Republican response to the Obama black phenomena. Cain has hit on what angers many Americans most, the IRS which is complex and unfair. In tackling the right problem he simplifies with 9-9-9 to get the conversation started.

    As a graduate of a Historically Black College, Cain knows all too well that preferences given to those illegally in the nation push back to the back of the line, those legitimately here and those who have waited their turn.

    As a millionaire businessman with credentials better than the present occupant had when he entered the White House, Cain can’t be “Palin’d” to death without the media and blacks showing their true colors. Is raising Cain to be feared?

    Who we vote for should be determined by who is best on the issues for the nation? Cain has risen, now can he sustain his rise and then what? How’s that hope and change working for you?

    http://hiphoprepublican.com/feature/2011/10/23/dr-ada-m-fisher-the-rise-of-herman-cain/

    read more here

  56. Seems like there is a consensus on Fox TV. It seems that everyone there with an opinion is against Herman Cain. I do not recall such positions against any other canidate in the 2008 primary for people in either the Democratic or Republican primary.

    Why do so many professional commenters have such strong one sided opinions in this one?

  57. ++

    Patty #55 October 24, 2011 at 11:55 am

    probably trying to find a good excuse
    to back Perry, ergo, about to lose me..

    ==

  58. Cain is not up to speed on everything he should be.
    It’s sort of like Elle Woods in Legally Blonde “Do you think she just woke up one morning and said I think I’ll go to law school?”
    I don’t get the sense, lovely man that he seems to be, he’s doing all the homework. It doesn’t seem like he came to this fully prepared.
    Again, it’s one thing not to know where Mali is. It’s another not to be completely familiar with the Middle East and all the problems there. Not understanding Right of return? That concerned me.

  59. Karl Rove is old news. His slobbering love affair, (thanks Bernie!), for Romney borders on the homoerotic.

  60. ++

    re: #60 October 24, 2011 at 12:07 pm bg

    “Peace through strength AND clarity”

    ==

  61. By their decision, the judges forced every abortion decision to be made on an individual basis by the people most affected. That way, at least there will be no wholesale slaughter of the innocents.

    So your position is that legalizing abortion leads to less abortion?

  62. We’ve had enuf of Rove et al. Back in the thick of the health care debate, he had a WSJ op-ed that fully endorsed the status quo of the health care system and rejected that there were ANY problems. This elitist, status-quo stance set the stage for Obamacare by not putting forth any alternative plans (i.e. competition across statelines, addressing preexisting conditions) that could have addressed core problems in a meaningful way. Just one example, but there are many more where Rove has steered Repubs over the cliff.

  63. Herman Cain is just the Republican Obama: All Talk, No Substance.

    His interests have always been with corporate America and big banks, not middle America and small business. As chair of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, Herman Cain worked for the most secretive, unregulated, and unaccountable of all the big banks in America. As a candidate, he has continued to oppose an audit of the Federal Reserve bank, despite all of the questions raised by the recent one-time Dodd-Frank audit, which revealed the largest transfer of wealth in human history: trillions of dollars created out of nothing to loan at functionally zero-percent interest rates to an exclusive club of big financials and foreign central banks.

    Who cares what Rove says, you have a responsibility to your country not to let your fellow Americans be fooled by the false impression Herman Cain is working hard to cultivate about himself.

    The real question here is will Americans declare Independence from politics-as-usual, partisan grandstanding, and special interest lobbying, or will they remain divided by faulty labels and deceived by shining rhetoric? Will they side with big banks, or small business? Will they allow the continued consolidation of power in the hands of a few, or will they support the kind of localism that empowers the people at the community level? And most urgently, will they start asking all these questions about their political candidates and earnestly searching for information in these candidates’ records to learn the answers? If not, voters in 2012 might find themselves choosing between two partisan versions of the same kind of candidate.

  64. ++

    re: #65 (et al) October 24, 2011 at 12:21 pm bg

    Election News – Cain on Israel: “Right of Return”

    I have long been a vocal and unwavering
    supporter of our friend and ally, Israel.

    All Israeli governments have rejected the “right” of large numbers
    of Arabs or Palestinians to return to what is now the state of Israel.
    Such an en masse return would unbalance Israel’s demographic
    makeup as the world’s sole Jewish state.

    In this light, should the “right of return” “be negotiated,” as I said,
    “if that is a decision that Israel wants to make”? Certainly, and to
    reiterate, it’s Israel’s call. Israel has a long record of being more
    gracious to its enemies than its enemies are to it, and this would
    be yet another example of that. But is the “right of return” a moral
    imperative? Is it something Israel must grant? Is it something the
    United States ought to encourage?

    The answer is no on every count.

    Our policy on Palestinian affairs must be wholly a function of our policy
    on Israeli affairs. Israel is a friend. Israel is an ally. Israel shares common
    values with us. Israel shares common interests with us, especially in the
    eradication of terrorism and the need for bringing peace to the region.
    As President, I will never lose sight of these basic facts. Any aspirant
    to the Presidency must have the unshakable US-Israeli alliance at the
    core of his or her strategic vision in the Middle East.

    As your President, I would.

    ==

  65. Karl Rove’s ass!!! He is just another puppet for the old guard, trying its best not to lose control of the party. We need change to the whole system that a true businessman can give. Cain turned around a business, and Government is a business.

  66. 2012 Pres. Candidate Rick Perry: I Don’t Know If Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Real

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/10/presidential-candidate-rick-perry-i.html

    The fact is NOBODY knows if Obama’s Birth Certificate is real since Obama has done EVERYTHING humanly possible to keep the alleged Birth Certificate from being FORENSICALLY EXAMINED.

    As many twenty computer and document experts have examined the PDF Copy of Obama’s alleged Birth Certificate and they have all declared it a likely forgery.

    The Birth Certificate and Obama’s eligibility is EXTREMEMLY IMPORTANT. Any one who would try to minimise the significance of this is issue is an absolute MORON and a TRAITOR.

  67. Karl Rove has just convinced me, I need to contribute to Herman Cain NOW. Immediately! I’ve been waiting. I see that the establishment is going after Mr. Cain with guns blazing, and I’m not going to let them take Mr. Cain down so easily. I want the voters to be able to speak THEIR minds. I want so-called Republicans who assassinate fellow Republicans – especially when assassinating true conservatives – to SHUT THE HELL UP. Yes, Mr. Rove, that means you.

  68. ++

    re: #34 (et al) October 24, 2011 at 11:21 am bg

    Herman Cain News

    ie: October 20, 2011

    Herman Cain 81% with GOP Voters in North Carolina

    [Raleigh, N.C. – A new poll by the Civitas Institute shows Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain leading Democratic incumbent Barack Obama by five percent among North Carolina voters.

    Cain is the choice of 46 percent of North Carolina voters if the election for President of the United States was today and the candidates were Herman Cain the Republican, and Barack Obama the Democrat. Forty-one percent said they would vote for Obama, and 10 percent said they are undecided.

    Cain has the support of 81 percent of Republicans along with 50 percent of unaffiliated voters. Democratic voters would vote for Obama by a 68 percent to 19 percent margin.

    “Just as is happening nationally, we are seeing a swell of support for Herman Cain in North Carolina,” said Civitas Institute President Francis De Luca.]

    ==

  69. #72

    I have already sent Mr. Cain money and will be doing it again! :)

  70. Rove is a blithering idiot, though that doesn’t take away from the fact that Cain has messed up lots of simple policy positions … and he’s apologized for having said the right thing a few times, too. But, Cain’s biggest problem (and one we see throughout the GOP, now) is that he is proposing an un-Constitutional tax system. The federal government can’t just create a national sales tax out of thin air. There would have to be a Constitutional amendment just to let Cain’s piss-poor 999 system even have a chance at being realized … and no one seems to be saying this to Cain while Cain seems blissfully unaware of the Constitutional barriers to the federal government just taxing the life out of anything and everything it sees.

    I have been very, very, very disappointed with all the GOP idiots who haven’t bothered mentioning this one little problem of being totally un-Constitutional (after so many debates, too). Also, revamping the tax system, in the awful way that Cain wants to, is NOT what people should be concentrating on, now, anyway. Our work, for the present, is first and foremost in getting ObamaCare, Dodd-Frank and the rest of the destructive anti-American laws passed under the Indonesian. THAT is job one, not some silly attempts to pervert our Constitution for a campaign slogan.

    I like Cain, but he’s not even close to my first choice in the primary and this 999 idiocy is a bit too much for me.

    Rove needs to just shut up and go away.

  71. Talk about shooting the messenger, the posts on this panel are revealing, it’s foolish to blame Karl Rove. I like Herman Cain, he will not be the Party’s nominee, get over it. I don’t like Rick Perry, he will never be elected president, Texas BS and hate won’t win. I don’t trust Mitt Romney his positions are like a flag on a pole in a hurricane always moving without effort. Santorum, Bachmann, Johnson and Paul are nutters. Who is that Lib Dem ex-Gov. from Utah? Our 2012 prospects are scary due to those that have elected not to run. Makes one wonder what was in those pictures…Talk about shooting the messenger, the posts on this panel are revealing, it’s foolish to blame Karl Rove. I like Herman Cain, he will not be the Party’s nominee, get over it. I don’t like Rick Perry, he will never be elected president, Texas BS and hate won’t win. I don’t trust Mitt Romney his positions are like a flag on a pole in a hurricane always moving without effort. Santorum, Bachmann, Johnson and Paul are nutters. Who is that Lib Dem ex-Gov. from Utah? Our 2012 prospects are scary due to those that have elected not to run. Makes one wonder what was in those pictures…

  72. Cain starts ‘singing’ at 3:50 in the video.Missed his calling, I think.
    Much better at singing than politicicking.

    “Imagine There’s No Pizza”

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/10/17/_imagine_there_s_no_pizza_.html

  73. It would be nice to see Herman Cain as President, and he is far more qualified than Mr. Obama was in 2008.

    If Herman Cain does away with the U.S. Tax Code and replaces it with something good, he will have done the nation an immeasurable service. If he does away with the U.S. Tax Code and replaces it with something lousy – it will still be a step in the right direction! That Tax Code just needs replacing.

    I recently read that Herman Cain has in the past donated about one million dollars toward pro-life causes. Perhaps he walks the walk better than he talks the talk – even though he is a pretty skilled stump speaker.

  74. #72 Mike D. I agree. I’ve been saving my hard earned $$ to see how this primary campaign fleshes out. I believe I know what direction to take now, without hesitation.

    Join me.
    https://www.hermancain.com/donate

  75. Cain is a disaster. Stop making excuses for him. If any other canidate said this they would be out. Herman Cain would lose to Obama. He will get 0 hispanic votes and O votes from the 50% that don’t pay any taxes. Obama would easily win over Cain. Are you looking for a candidate that can beat Obama or a sure loser?

  76. #68 October 24, 2011 at 12:25 pm
    Ripped commented:

    … His interests have always been with corporate America and big banks, not middle America and small business. As chair of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, Herman Cain worked for the most secretive, unregulated, and unaccountable of all the big banks in America. As a candidate, he has continued to oppose an audit of the Federal Reserve bank, …

    Actually this is not true. In the New Hampshire debate Ron Paul made this same claim. Cain pointed out that he did not say that he was against auditing the federal reserve and that Paul was referring to a blog that had made up the story.

  77. #80 Dave
    Agree!!
    I wouldn’t be deeding the ranch, or hocking the family jewels and sending the proceeds to Cain yet either. Check out his 2004 U.S. Senate run first.

  78. #75 October 24, 2011 at 1:28 pm
    progressoverpeace commented:

    The federal government can’t just create a national sales tax out of thin air. There would have to be a Constitutional amendment just to let Cain’s piss-poor 999 system even have a chance at being realized … and no one seems to be saying this to Cain while Cain seems blissfully unaware of the Constitutional barriers to the federal government just taxing the life out of anything and everything it sees.

    Actually, the federal government has the ability to write laws taxing any commerce. Look no farther than the federal gasoline tax for a clear, and annoying, example.

    As far as taxing everything into oblivion, look no farther than the 90% income tax brackets of the past! Woodrow wilson clearly stated income taxes would be no more than a nominal 1%, 2%, 3%. Then he entered WWI and jacked them all to the roof!

  79. Please get over your American Idol cult following with Cain. He can’t beat Obama. Herman Cain’s 9% national sales tax would ensure a Obama victory. Cain has alienated Latinos. No way he could win. Sorry.

  80. I hope Carl is wrong. I would hate to see Obama win because the Republicans nominated a RINO that the Tea Party and other Conservatives could not accept! I believe the Republicans would have won control of the Senate if they had seriously supported Sharon Angle and Christine Whatever from Delaware. Sure, Angle and McDonnell would have been rookies — but their vote would have been better than the Dems that won those two races. Instead, the Republicans wanted to prove the Party “ruled”. As a result, they are the Minority in the Senate. And, it is their fault!

  81. Freddy commented:…

    Actually, the federal government has the ability to write laws taxing any commerce.

    The federal government is not allowed to just tax anything it wants. If that were true, then there would be no policies outside of the scope of the federal government.

  82. You have to understand Karl Rove detests and feels extremely threatened by the Tea Party. For this very reason (and starting with his repugnant antics the night of the election last Nov.), I refuse to listen to or watch him which means I tune in to Hannity and Fox News much less often. Rove, Coulter and a few others have completely jumped the shark, and in fact Fox has gone establishment, which means they no longer are distinguishing themselves from the rest of the MSM. Rove epitomizes establishment RINO. I like Cain, but it’s not about Cain. This is about Rove’s determination to get a RINO GOP establishment candidate in as nominee. Rove would be doing this to ANY GOP candidate in the lead at this point who is not Mittens.

    These GOP establishment RINO types hate the Tea Party more than they do 0bama and the Dems by far. Believe it. I’m not actually convinced they even want to win the WH. They do very well when Marxists run the government. Ever notice?

  83. There is a significant difference between accidental slip-ups and calculated flip flops.

  84. “There is a significant difference between accidental slip-ups and calculated flip flops.”

    Got that right – go for the seasoned politician, not some over qualified dirt farmer.

  85. Someone really needs to check the “sell by date” on his backside. Rove is long past his shelf life.
    The man is so annoying that he is like fingernails on a blackboard. His little chubby nerd face and his grease pencil graphics are worse than watching Obama and his teleprompter.

    Rove is trying desperately to remain relevant and viewed as some form of political guru. That ain’t happening. So if Fox wants to pay him stupid money to pontificate and show his pencil drawings, that is their business, but it won’t improve their ratings or help the conservative cause one iota.

  86. Why is Carl Rove stealing still our air?

  87. thr biggest advantage the liberal has over the conservative in america is the RNC. the liberal has an effective political machine that represents their point of view. the conservative has an ineffective political machine that does not represent their point of view.

    the only thing people like carl rove and the RNC wants is to maintain their power. the RNC over the last thirty years has run some of the most ineffective campaigns and candidates you could imagine. the RNC is what has kept the conservative majority under the rule of the liberal minority in the united states.

  88. we can not allow the main stream media or the RNC to dictate to we the people who our candidate should be. the RNC doesn’t get the fact that anyone can win this election against the “won”. the community agitator is worse than jimmy carter. romney is another mccain and we all know that worked out.

  89. Sure are a lot of Paulbots and Worshipers of the Plastic Romney out today.

    Cain 2012.

  90. I’m a republican and love Herman Cain. Oh, and I’m pro choice, live in the south, work right along side my fellow fundamentalist Christian republican volunteers and they have no clue…that I’m pro choice. It’s none of their business anyway. It’s between me and my doctor.

    I’m not voting for someone because of his views on abortion. I’m voting for the guy who can beat Obama. And Herman Cain is the ONLY one of this field who can beat Obama.

  91. ++

    re: #60 October 24, 2011 at 12:07 pm bg

    Herman Cain, MTP, 2:06 to 26:26

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