Cain: “Obama’s Never Been a Part of the Black Experience in America” …(Except That He Was the First Black President)

#1 October 11, 2011 at 11:29 pm

Island Girl commented:

????? You can’t take away his whiteness . Oh wait you can.

#2 October 11, 2011 at 11:29 pm

Sky commented:

Conservatives in the United States love to talk about how much they love individual liberty and about how much they love parental rights, but they keep supporting candidates that are trampling on our liberties and our freedoms. Forcing young girls to be injected with a highly controversial government-mandated STD vaccine is something that we would expect Barack Obama to do.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/rick-perry-and-the-hpv-vaccine-would-a-real-conservative-attempt-to-forcibly-vaccinate-12-year-old-girls-for-a-sexually-transmitted-disease

#3 October 11, 2011 at 11:30 pm

MikeO commented:

Tactless, but really somewhat accurate; and while not meaningful to us Anglos, I promise you SOME African-Americans would agree.
Where was he raised? Deep segregated South? Hardly. He didn’t get to Chicago until late in life.
Cain DOES need to learn a bit more tact, however. And I find it an amusing turnaround on the ridiculously stated issue that Cain is not ‘authenically black’; and I believe that was PRECISELY the point.

#4 October 11, 2011 at 11:33 pm

Sky commented:

Rick Perry has a long track record of doing things that Tea Party activists should abhor. Here are 14 examples:

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/14-reasons-why-rick-perry-would-be-a-really-really-bad-president

#5 October 11, 2011 at 11:35 pm

StuGotts commented:

Except, of course, that Mr. Cain is right. Obama grew up in Indonesia and Hawaii. His Arab/African father never really had any direct influence on his life. Obama never spent any time around any other African-Americans before he went to college, and then only at college. Obama never, ever had to deal with any real discrimination issues ever in his life until he had reached adulthood, unlike Herman Cain.

#6 October 11, 2011 at 11:43 pm

Adi commented:

He is the first (half) black president but he is also the first president to screw this up on a major scale.

If there is going to be a next black president, then he will have to do an even tougher job and cleanup after Zero: (1) he will have to prove that not all black politicians are the result of affirmative action and fight against this prejudice; (2) he will have to compare himself with the system who enabled him to reach a certain position without discrimination; (3) fight those who say that a certain skin color should be promoted not out of competence but on color alone… (sound familiar?)

And probably many others, but this is Zero’s legacy, the “first post-racial president”.

Thank to his incompetence, stupidity and race baiting the next black president (if ever) of the US will have an even greater burden to lift and even more stereotypes to fight against.

#7 October 11, 2011 at 11:44 pm

maryd commented:

I don’t see anything wrong or “tactless” abiout Cain’s comments. He’s speaking the truth! Agree with StuGotts.

#8 October 11, 2011 at 11:48 pm

Craig commented:

Cain is such an arrogant Federal Reserve Bank operative. I’m telling you, listen to me, if this bandit is elected, you will soon be missing your Kenyan fraudulent President.
Cain is real bad news for your country. You’ve been warned!

I was never wrong on the choice of your Presidents. There was only two that I approved of, and wanted them to win: Kennedy and Reagan. They’ve killed the first one and almost killed the second one. And they will probably try to kill Ron Paul if he gets eolected.

History repeats itself. They don’t want you to have good and great Presidents. They want you to have scumbags, so they can continue to screw you.

#9 October 11, 2011 at 11:52 pm

bg commented:

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WAY TO SAY CAIN, GET IN HIS FACE!!

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#10 October 11, 2011 at 11:53 pm

bg commented:

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re: #9 October 11, 2011 at 11:52 pm bg

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#11 October 11, 2011 at 11:55 pm

Rob De Witt commented:

If Herman Cain wants to be the second black American president he needs to show some restraint once in awhile.

WRONG.

Cain’s absolutely accurate in that assessment, and it needs to be shouted from the rooftops. 0′s phoniness as a black man has been the elephant in the living room for the last 3 years, and the sooner black folks can own up to that and start talking about it the better for everybody.

#12 October 11, 2011 at 11:59 pm

Molon Labe commented:

We need someone whohas displayed as much reserve, honesty, manners, and respect for the sensibilities of QAmericans as Obama, Kerry, Carter and Clinton. We need the type of man who can tell Craig what to do and where to go with his faux conservativism.

Go Cain. While I have my reservations about Cain he had more of my confidence than Perry or Romney. Cain needs to alter his 9-9-9 proposal to an amendment and come out strongly in favor of the 2nd Anmmendment and ending affirmative action.

But with Santorium and Bachmann not going anywhere it looks like Cain is the one who has captured the imagination of Aerican conservatives.

Ron Paul at least didn’t sound totally crazed today. But Romney and Perry sounded and acted lame.

#13 October 12, 2011 at 12:01 am

donh commented:

Obama’s ” black struggle ” is as authentic as the ” suffering poverty ” of those spoiled trust fund lazy beatniks at Occupy Wall Street.

#14 October 12, 2011 at 12:02 am

bg commented:

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Rob De Witt #11 October 11, 2011 at 11:55 pm

re: [If Herman Cain wants to be the second black American
president he needs to show some restraint once in awhile.]

yes, that statement almost sounds,
oh wait, can’t out my finger on it..

plantationist?? /s/

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#15 October 12, 2011 at 12:02 am

Sandy commented:

Mr. Cain has race on the brain same as Obama. He’s gotten carried away by his self ordained role of race prognosticator. Been there — done that.

#16 October 12, 2011 at 12:05 am

Molon Labe commented:

Obama has had about the same American black experience as a chocolate Lab. He wasn’t brought up in this country. He lived in a white Marxist culture. He never experienced anythiong a black would in the priviledged schools of the elite. Where is Cain wrong.

Obama has had the same black experience as Craig is a Canadian.

#17 October 12, 2011 at 12:05 am

bg commented:

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donh #13 October 12, 2011 at 12:01 am

lol, good one..

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#18 October 12, 2011 at 12:07 am

bg commented:

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alls i have to say is it’s nice to hear a black man getting
blamed for something to do with America for a change..

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#19 October 12, 2011 at 12:07 am

Craig commented:

Molon Labe,

I hope you get Cain ant rot in hell with him. Because it will be hell in your country if you are stupid enough to elect this scumbag FED operative.

#20 October 12, 2011 at 12:14 am

Char commented:

I agree with Cain. I think his comments were accurate. What is the “American black experience”? Is having black skin enough to qualify one? I don’t think so, really. Living in Hawaii, where interracial marriages and experiences were far more acceptable (which may well be why his mother and grandparents moved there in the first place) than they are on the mainland did not give Obama the “black experience”. Some will cry foul at this; others will agree. I don’t think Cain was being stupid or disengenous, but calling it as he sees it. I like Cain a lot.

#21 October 12, 2011 at 12:18 am

AuntieMadder commented:

Cain is right. And it’s about damned time someone with a voice said it.

#22 October 12, 2011 at 12:20 am

Valerie commented:

Cain said he can peel 30% of black voters away from the Democratic Party at the national level, and this was a down payment.

He has a point, too, that will not be lost on certain voters. Regardless of his citizenship, BO’s childhood was spent overseas, in a Muslim school, and in the household of his white, well-to-do grandparents. As an adult, he spent 20 years in an exclusive enclave in Chicago, and attended a church that was about as far removed as possible from the kind of loving, Christian churches that sustained so many of our black families.

#23 October 12, 2011 at 12:33 am

Valerie commented:

#2 October 11, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Sky commented:

The order was worded so that the insurance companies would pay for the shots. It had an opt-out. This is a not an non-issue: you posted disinformation.

#24 October 12, 2011 at 12:36 am

Craig commented:

Herman Caine’s campaign is being bank rolled by,”Skull and Bones”!
- Slick Corporate Salesman
- Skull and Bones Pilsbury company
- Worked for Coca-Cola
- God Father Pizza – Pilsbury Company
- Pilsbury Cartel – founding members of Skull and Bones!
- Pro Torture
- Federick T. Gates involved and involved with and helped start David
Rockefeller organizations
- Held Position at Federal Reserve

Dig in check him out for yourself

#25 October 12, 2011 at 12:39 am

Yrral Dleifsarb commented:

I’ll be happy when people start seeing race as being no less superficial than hair color. That world is a long way off. Until then, Cain is smart to make clear to those who mean to be color-blind that he accords little important to race as a political issue. To those who are not color-blind, and are likely to remain that way through 2012, and who might vote for Zero simply because he is black, the point Cain made is pertinent. If he can peel off 10% of the blacks who mindlessly (#) voted for Zero, that alone could swing the election. I cannot blame him for making that effort, as long as he does not condone racism.

(# Since the vast majority of blacks vote for Democrats, and since the Dem-supporting electorate is essentially mindless, this is not a slam against blacks per se. It is simply a recognition of their present role on the Dem plantation.)

#26 October 12, 2011 at 12:40 am

StrangernFiction commented:

You do incredible work Jim, but ya missed on this one.

#27 October 12, 2011 at 12:41 am

Valerie commented:

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/09/15/video-the-story-behind-rick-perrys-gardasil-mandate/

Anybody else notice how Google has weighed the articles about Republicans?

Just sayin’ there’s articles missing that should have come up on word searches.

#28 October 12, 2011 at 12:44 am

Granny commented:

#21 October 12, 2011 at 12:18 am
AuntieMadder commented:

Cain is right. And it’s about damned time someone with a voice said it.
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Absolutely he is! One of the reasons I get SO offended when Obama puts on that oh-so-fake “southern” accent is that he hasn’t spent a single day south of the Mason-Dixon iin his entire life unless it was in a 5 star hotel.

#29 October 12, 2011 at 12:52 am

Whraglyn commented:

Frankly, Jim, your closing line is the conservative analog of Demlib ‘plantation’ mentality. Imho, Cain should jump on this issue haaaaard and looong. Obama’s success in hoodwinking so many in this is as alarming as it is effective. It is precisely such bold candor that is lacking as it is overdue in GOP leadership.

#30 October 12, 2011 at 12:54 am

Little David Puddy commented:

I lived on the Corner of North Avenue and Techwood Drive (Now Centennial Park Drive) in Downtown Atlanta for 1 Year before they bulldozed these projects for the Olympics. I have way more in common with the “Black Experience” than Honolulu / Harvard / Columbia Barack Obama ever will.
Herman Cain is 100% correct.

#31 October 12, 2011 at 1:06 am

Craig commented:

Maybe Cain is the father of Obama… who knows?

#32 October 12, 2011 at 1:08 am

bg commented:

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Valerie #27 October 12, 2011 at 12:41 am

*sigh*, we’ve been though this before..

there’s just as much, if not more, evidence
that Gardasil can be harmful, even deadly..

info here & here & here & here..

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#33 October 12, 2011 at 1:11 am

bg commented:

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Craig #31 October 12, 2011 at 1:06 am

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#34 October 12, 2011 at 1:13 am

BS61 commented:

#8 October 11, 2011 at 11:48 pm
Craig commented:
Cain is such an arrogant Federal Reserve Bank operative. I’m telling you, listen to me, if this bandit is elected, you will soon be missing your Kenyan fraudulent President.

So Craig, now he has gone from an employee of the Federal Reserve to an operative!?! I had friends who worked for the Chicago Fed Reserve who were not operatives, just plain old working folks.

You need to step away from Alex Jones! And mind your own beeswax about out American elections.

#35 October 12, 2011 at 1:18 am

Island Girl commented:

OMG
Bachmann has an updo. Unfortunately it is Minnesota style – flat & boring.

Can’t scare the cows.

#36 October 12, 2011 at 1:19 am

Craig commented:

Hey BS, Cain wasn’t a simple employee, he was the BOSS, the CHAIRMAIN for 5 years of the second most powerful Federal Reserve Bank in America. Now he is an operative and he is trying to get them the sale tax that they want so fervently and so desperately.

HE IS BAD NEWS!

#37 October 12, 2011 at 1:20 am

Opaobie commented:

OK, in other words, this story can be condensed into THREE Words (using the Joe Biden method of counting letters and words) :

Cain, stop being UPPITY!

#38 October 12, 2011 at 1:22 am

bg commented:

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Craig

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#39 October 12, 2011 at 1:24 am

BS61 commented:

#19 October 12, 2011 at 12:07 am
Craig commented:

I hope you get Cain ant rot in hell with him. Because it will be hell in your country if you are stupid enough to elect this scumbag FED operative.

Same old, same old! Why specifically Ron Paul supporters think that they insult us into voting for him?

I dislike his supporters when they call CSPAN to tell Dems to register Republican for the primary to get him elected – they are a dishonest bunch!

#40 October 12, 2011 at 1:25 am

Craig commented:

And BS, I won’t back down. This next election concerns the whole World. If the Federal Reserve Bank is not abolished, every country will lose it’s sovereingnty and live under a NWO.
We are all watching you and we hope you will not make the biggest mistake of your life, We all pray that you will finally wake-up to reality and realize that your only ennemy is the Federal Reserve Bank. The whole world already knows it… but you haven’t figure it out yet.

#41 October 12, 2011 at 1:28 am

bg commented:

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dang, i listened to the tape twice, and i missed it..

oh well, that’s what i get for multitasking..

listening to it again, but doubt the tone will be much different,
so i’ll have to really concentrate on what & how it’s spoken.. /s/

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#42 October 12, 2011 at 1:30 am

Craig commented:

“Idislike his supporters when they call CSPAN to tell Dems to register Republican for the primary to get him elected – they are a dishonest bunch!” BS #61

Isn’t that what everybody does? Anyone who wants Paul for President has the right to register as a Republican. And I hope they do it. I see nothing illegal in changing sides from democrats to Republicans… ,politicians do it all the time…. why not voters?

#43 October 12, 2011 at 1:31 am

BS61 commented:

#33 October 12, 2011 at 1:11 am
bg commented:

Craig #31 October 12, 2011 at 1:06 am

LOL bg!

#44 October 12, 2011 at 1:35 am

BS61 commented:

#40 October 12, 2011 at 1:25 am
Craig commented:
And BS, I won’t back down. This next election concerns the whole World. If the Federal Reserve Bank is not abolished, every country will lose it’s sovereingnty and live under a NWO.
We are all watching you and we hope you will not make the biggest mistake of your life, We all pray that you will finally wake-up to reality and realize that your only ennemy is the Federal Reserve Bank. The whole world already knows it… but you haven’t figure it out yet.

Then the whole world needs to stand up for themselves – via Ron Paul style – you are on your own! We will never ‘wake up’ to an anti-semetic like Ron Paul.

#45 October 12, 2011 at 1:39 am

Craig commented:

BS, Ron Paul is not anti semitic, USA is. They give 7 times more money to Israel ennemies than they do to Israel.

#46 October 12, 2011 at 1:42 am

Craig commented:

The globalist elites UN gave Israel to the Jews, only to create chaos with the Arabs so they could blast their countries. All this war on terror was orchestrated a long time ago. Search it, don,t believe me, search it. USA is no friend of Israel. Will you please get real here?

#47 October 12, 2011 at 1:43 am

bg commented:

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re: Cain’s response: “[Obama's] never been
a part of the black experience in America.”

Boortz said it first, Cain just REPEATED what
Boortz said & then gave his answer.. hell=O??

listening again to make sure..

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#48 October 12, 2011 at 1:47 am

BS61 commented:

#36 October 12, 2011 at 1:19 am
Craig commented:
Hey BS, Cain wasn’t a simple employee, he was the BOSS, the CHAIRMAIN for 5 years of the second most powerful Federal Reserve Bank in America. Now he is an operative and he is trying to get them the sale tax that they want so fervently and so desperately.

HE IS BAD NEWS!

This still won’t be making me vote for Ron Paul…. because Craig says so? Give me a break!

#49 October 12, 2011 at 1:50 am

BS61 commented:

#46 October 12, 2011 at 1:42 am
Craig commented:
The globalist elites UN gave Israel to the Jews, only to create chaos with the Arabs so they could blast their countries. All this war on terror was orchestrated a long time ago. Search it, don,t believe me, search it. USA is no friend of Israel. Will you please get real here?

If you don’t believe that Gateway Pundit fans are capable of a search, you truly underestimate us. Oh wait you do!

Arabs live in Israel and support them.

#50 October 12, 2011 at 1:52 am

BS61 commented:

#42 October 12, 2011 at 1:30 am
Craig commented:
“Idislike his supporters when they call CSPAN to tell Dems to register Republican for the primary to get him elected – they are a dishonest bunch!” BS #61

Isn’t that what everybody does? Anyone who wants Paul for President has the right to register as a Republican. And I hope they do it. I see nothing illegal in changing sides from democrats to Republicans… ,politicians do it all the time…. why not voters?

No sorry Craig – we true conservatives have morals and ethics, unlike the liberal Ron Paul supporters!

#51 October 12, 2011 at 1:58 am

S. Wolf commented:

donh #13

Speaking of which…

‘Local politicians looked the other way on permits and handed out “free” tents, ponchos and porta-potties, in Los Angeles. Meanwhile, billionaire speculator and convicted inside trader George Soros threw support — and money — to these same protests against capitalism.

Now luxury ice-cream retailer Ben & Jerry’s, a unit of a multinational corporation as noted by BigGovernment.com, has joined the anti-business fun, tweeting: “To those who Occupy: We stand with you. We admire @OccupyWallSt & those around the country who have joined in solidarity.”

Amid this kultursmog of contradictions, a stark clarity from GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain stood out unlike that of any other national voice.

“Don’t blame Wall Street; don’t blame the big banks. If you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself,” Cain told the protesters, who had lately been calling for debt amnesties and “free” education.

“It is not someone’s fault if they succeeded,” said Cain, confronting class-warfare head on, “it is someone’s fault if they failed.”

Cain’s stance was powerful, not just because it reflects the experience of millions of America’s “silent majority” — who’ve never asked for any special privileges as “their due” — but also because of who Cain is.

There couldn’t have been a single protester in any of those Wall Street protests who had to move the mountains Cain did through his life to rise to the top. He took on the disadvantages of race, poverty and lack of privilege without complaint, and emerged a winner.

Is there a single, whining protester in the Occupy Wall Street mob who has such a capacity for hard work, humility and leadership? We rather doubt it.

They may be middle-class as they claim to be, but only in the sense that 1960s Weather Underground terrorist and Obama mentor Bill Ayers was also middle-class — a spoiled, self-absorbed radical who has posed most of his life as a “revolutionary,” while working from a privileged perch within the far-left reaches of academia.

It’s the very opposite of Cain’s sterling character and life experiences. And he isn’t letting up.

“I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration,” Cain told the Wall Street Journal.

For ordinary Americans who must make their way in the world with some of the same disadvantages as Cain, his words ring true.’

Cain Speaks For Silent Majority

#52 October 12, 2011 at 2:00 am

bg commented:

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re: #47 October 12, 2011 at 1:43 am bg

YES!!

Boorts says it, Cain repeats it..

damnit!!

didn’t anyone listen to the tape??

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#53 October 12, 2011 at 2:24 am

Mats commented:

Jim, I thinkl you missed the point. Cain was only saying that Obama doesn’t know what’s like growing as other blacks. He grew up in the upper class, well fed, well dressed, best school, etc.

Cain never wanted to say that Obama was not black or anything like that.

#54 October 12, 2011 at 2:29 am

Tom63010 commented:

What Herman Cain said is exactly what Al Sharpton said. In essence that Obama has had a pretty cushy life. Personally I believe that in part if not the whole it is because he is a tool. A tool of the far left that would prefer to change this country into a central planning government. We here of intellectual prowess yet there are no transcript of his grades. He thinks everyone should be getting free college yet there is a mystery Arlington how his tuition was paid. I find it ironic and irritating that there was Charlie Rose, who after Obama was elected along with an news anchor (I don’t recall the name) set at a table on Charles Rose’s show and discussed how neither knew who Obama really was. Well I guess that is just dandy. No wonder Fox News is rated so high.

#55 October 12, 2011 at 3:24 am

ohiochili commented:

Craig, I had an uncle like you, but after his hemorrhoids got better, he was a normal guy again.
Wishing someone to ‘rot in hell’? My, my….how the facade of your cool superiority to us is falling away…..

Sorry Jim…you are wrong on this one. The messiah is only black when the situation calls for it. As a matter of fact, I will go one farther than Cain. Obama knows nothing about the experience of any American who works for a living. He was a pampered pet, which is quite evident in the job he has done.

#57 October 12, 2011 at 4:30 am

Rykehaven commented:

“never been a part of the black experience in America.”

It’s another form of “You’re not black enough”.

This is not “tactless”.

This is racist.

It’s what Cain is.

And it’s not the first time Cain’s mask has slipped.

What’s more revealing is Gatewaypundit’s attempt to soft-peddle it.

More than a few “conservative” media outlets are trying to cover for Cain, much like the Left wing media outlets covered for Obama.

Part of the reason is that Hoft wants a “black candidate” (which makes him racist too).

That’s why you’re not seeing any investigations into Cain’s past – just as nobody on the left investigated “The One”.

Nothing to see here.

Obama is just “consitutional professor”.

And Cain is just a “businessman”.

#58 October 12, 2011 at 4:39 am

Rykehaven commented:

Put another way, Gatewaypundit’s Hoft isn’t concerned that Cain is a racist.

Hoft: “And, for Herman Cain to attack Obama on his authentic black experience is stupid and undisciplined.”

He’s concerned that Cain’s racism is being revealed – and he’s advising Cain to hide it better.

Hoft: “And, for Herman Cain to attack Obama on his authentic black experience is stupid and undisciplined.”

#59 October 12, 2011 at 4:51 am

squeaky commented:

Cain is right but isn’t this like telling everyone that the king has no clothes on – every one thinks it but is afraid to say it. i remember some political figure [black female] whose name eludes me that said pretty much the same thing 1 year or so ago – she was expressing a gripe about obama and that’s how her thoughts came up. every community has their big secrets that they like to keep among themselves – Cain probably broke that rule. Cain was right. Cain didn’t have to learn the part.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Is-Obama-Black-Enough—-Does-It-Matter?&id=438722

#60 October 12, 2011 at 5:12 am

Rykehaven commented:

Romney uses religion as a shield and victim status to attack his opponents.

A real leader would expound the virtues of his religion proudly.

Instead Romney became defensive and small, lashing out.

Cain is cut from the same cloth, just a different color.

Perry is also eager to use identity politics to attack conservatives vis-a-vis illegal immigration.

Needless to say, the three top Republican candidates share the leadership qualities of Barack Obama.

And leadership – that all-important ephemeral quality – can’t be taught. If Obama doesn’t have the instinct for it at his age, he’ll never get the knack for it. The same goes for the top three Republican candidates.

Conservatives are better served by investigating Romney and Perry – and especially Cain who’s been given a free pass so far. They should use their judgments and instincts which served them well in identifying Obama as a racist and a charlatan.

Conservatives should stop letting the media choose their candidates for them with magic words like “front-runner” and “he can’t win”.

“He’s not going to win” is pundit-code for “I hope he doesn’t win”.

Just last week, Cain had “no chance” to win.

For my part, I’ll be voting for someone with the right instincts in this Republican field. And no, the name is not Romney, Perry or Cain. It may not be a front-runner, but like Duncan Hunter in 2008, it’s a conservative and America’s best chance.

#61 October 12, 2011 at 5:33 am

CV1 commented:

Maybe if John McCain had been this aggressive during his 2008 campaign, we wouldn’t be dealing with this disasterous Obama presidency. Nice guys finish last. Just as long as Herman Cain speaks the truth, it doesn’t matter to me what he says.

Herman Cain has everything Obama doesn’t have…and more.

#62 October 12, 2011 at 5:37 am

Evil Otto commented:

BS61 commented:

Same old, same old! Why specifically Ron Paul supporters think that they insult us into voting for him?

Craig is nothing more than a crazy person. He’s a 9/11 truther and a fanatical Ron Paul supporter with a religious devotion to the man. What’s sad is that he seems to be fairly typical of Ron Paul supporters. As of yet, the vast majority of them I’ve encountered have been complete douchebags. They lash out with rage at the slightest negative comment about Paul, insist that they and only they are the true conservatives, mindlessly believe every conspiracy theory that comes across their desk, and constantly insult the very people they’re going to need to vote for Paul if he were to win the nomination.

This, to them, is a winning campaign strategy.

#63 October 12, 2011 at 6:04 am

Obama Nation commented:

Cain is absolutely right, Obama is not the decendant of African American slaves. Obama’s father came to America from Kenya long after slavery was abolished and he attended an Ivy league School.

Obama also never directly experienced segregation or Jim Crow laws, as he was born at the beggining of the Civil Rights era and was raised by a white middle class family. Obama did grow up in the Ghetto, and was not a part of the black community.

#64 October 12, 2011 at 6:05 am

Obama Nation commented:

Cain is absolutely right, Obama is not the decendant of African American slaves. Obama’s father came to America from Kenya long after slavery was abolished and he attended an Ivy league School.

Obama also never directly experienced segregation or Jim Crow laws, as he was born at the beggining of the Civil Rights era and was raised by a white middle class family. Obama did NOT grow up in the Ghetto, and was not a part of the black community.

#65 October 12, 2011 at 6:32 am

Tom63010 commented:

Interesting comments. Herman Cain is a racist is one. Well for as long as I can remember I have heard that a black person commenting on another black person is not racist. You know like how one black person can call another black person the “N” word and get away with it. Not sure that the MSM will mess with this. If they do then will it be to attack Herman Cain for the statement itself or will they actually investigate the fairness, and it was completely accurate in context. It is definitely an interesting dynamic. Personally I like Cain. Not sure that I disagree with others that his 999 plan is viable. The fact is in this country we elect a President not a dictator so if Congress votes for it we will have it. What stinks, like most of the candidates proposed policy is that they never are talked about in depth. Cain’s proposal also has conditions like abolition of ALL tax laws (Rep. Bachmann) then a super majority to make changes. Oh well all this discussion is probably moot anyway as Mitt Romney is the Establishment’s annointed one anyway. With the exception of Huntsman and Paul I hope all the candidates will be a part of the new administration.

#66 October 12, 2011 at 6:33 am

Ohio Granny commented:

Sorry Jim Hoff but Herman is more than just right, he has walked the walk not just talked the talk. Show me where Barry was living in the hood or working at the local pizza joint after school or delivering newspapers. He never had an “American” experience, even when he was smoking dope with his Marxist peeps at Columbia and Harvard. Where was he filling out those student loan papers? Sadly, we don’t know exactly who paid his way into the Ivy League. But we do know that Herman Cain didn’t get his success from affirmative action or being a con man. He earned it. He proved he understands the consumer. He proved he understands that enunciation and grammar and wearing proper attire doesn’t make you a sell out to the white mans world, it makes you a rich guy who can write his own ticket.
The only authentic struggles Barack had was when his mother was working on her PhD! and they were living on food stamps in government student housing. And she was home schooling him on being a good little Red School house baby.
Other than his Granny crossing the street to avoid thugs, where was his marching for equal opportunity? No. He was organizing for handouts and he is still doing it TO us. Not the same as working in the corporate world and achieving success.

#67 October 12, 2011 at 6:36 am

squeaky commented:

“With the exception of Huntsman and Paul I hope all the candidates will be a part of the new administration.” agree…who a president surrounds himself with is as important [and maybe more so] as the president.

#68 October 12, 2011 at 6:37 am

Gary commented:

sorry, haven’t read the comments. hope I don’t repeat:

Obama is only 1/2 black. he is as much white as he is black.
So Cain would be the first black president if he won.

Also, the connotatio of first black president is a descendant of slaves. I know that isn’t the denotation of black, but it is what is signficant about a black president in the US, and again Obama doesn’t meet that criterion. His father visited here from Africa in the 60s. So there is no significance.

Just think, a white South African could immigrate to this country and his son could be elected president, and that would be the first true African American president (again with no slave blood of course).

#69 October 12, 2011 at 6:43 am

squeaky commented:

“Not the same as working in the corporate world and achieving success..” probably along the lines of “those who can do – those who can’t teach”. a lot of success come from discipline, integrity, innovation, sacrifice etc. – qualities missing from many who believe success is achieved on the back of someone else.

#70 October 12, 2011 at 6:44 am

Terry Gain commented:

Not only is Cain right. He’s in a somewhat better position to understand this issue than Jim Hoft.

#71 October 12, 2011 at 6:50 am

Amjean commented:

I know this site actively supports Perry (it is obvious), however, attacking Cain for what he
said is ridiculous.

#72 October 12, 2011 at 6:55 am

Reliapundit commented:

ER…UM… EVERYONE KNOWS THAT BILL CLINTON WAS THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT!

SHEESH.

OBAMA IS THE FIRST HOMOSEXUAL PRESIDENT! (OR COMMIE ONE! OR MUSLIM ONE!)

SERIOUSLY: IF CAIN IS ELECTED, THEN HE WILL BE THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESIDENT.

#73 October 12, 2011 at 7:03 am

myohmy commented:

There is nothing offensive on what Cain said. Obama had used the color of his skin to go to Harvard. Isn’t that what he implied in his book? And still using his blackness to divide this country.

#74 October 12, 2011 at 7:21 am

Lurvelymomma commented:

Mr. Cain’s remarks were neither “stupid” nor undisciplined. Obama is not only removed from the black community, he isolates himself from the white community as well. He is, in
his own mind, above us……a supreme intellect (in his own mind) who chooses not to associate with the masses…..

#75 October 12, 2011 at 7:24 am

Jimmy commented:

“And, for Herman Cain to attack Obama on his authentic black experience is stupid and undisciplined.”
—–

You are way off on this one Jimbo. Blacks on the left (including Obama, though covertly) are attacking Herman Cain daily as an Uncle Tom, old fool, White appeaser and he’s not to fight back?

Herman Cain is 100% correct in his comments, Obama was born and raised in a “White” privileged world and reaped all the benefits afforded such a person. His “Black” experience is as a detached outsider (only as an adult); no different than some white social worker living in the suburbs commuting into the ghetto to “help” the disadvantaged. Only in his case, agitate, agitate, agitate was his goal.

Barack Obama needs to be taken down a few notches and since everyone in the mainstream media as well as the Republican establishment is too afraid to do so for fear of being labled a racist, then one of “his kind” must take the reins (hate to put it in that context, but it is what it is). Obama does not speak for Black America and has done nothing but driven them deeper into poverty and despair.

He came from the ghetto, he knows what the “experience” is like and what it takes to pull oneself up and out… I say let Herman Cain attack at will!

#76 October 12, 2011 at 7:30 am

Gary commented:

Amjean
I don’t know what you mean.
There are a wide variety of opinions on this site (just ask Craig).
I know a lot of people were hot on Perry a few weeks ago, but it has fizzled.
Cain is the new Perry.

#77 October 12, 2011 at 7:31 am

RedBeard commented:

Cain is absolutely correct about Obama, but not because Obama is black. Obama has nothing in common with Americans of any race.

That said, it’s regretable that Cain had to dip into the racial thing again, no matter what the point. Obama’s race is completely, totally, utterly irrelevant.

When I look at Obama, I do not see a black man, or a half-black man, or any other superficial characteristic. I see a Marxist, an enemy of the state, a filthy Quisling, who hates his own country and wants to reduce it to 3rd world status. Nothing would change if he were white, yellow, or purple with pink polkadots.

#78 October 12, 2011 at 7:33 am

Jack Okie commented:

Good grief, Jim! You sure missed the boat on this one. Cain is exactly right. It is a point that should help peel away some black voters. And since Mr. Cain grew up poor and black in the racist South, perhaps he is entitled to make it.

#79 October 12, 2011 at 7:34 am

RedBeard commented:

Shorter Craig: “Blah blah blah Ron Paul blah blah blah you stupid people blah blah blah.”

[Repeat in post after post after post, ad nauseum]

#80 October 12, 2011 at 7:34 am

raybojabo commented:

You’re not making any sense Jim. What did you do, go to “Occupy Wall Street” without getting a distemper shot first? Snap out of it man!

#81 October 12, 2011 at 7:42 am

MikeSilver commented:

Jim, I disagree as well (sorry about piling on). Obama has no idea what Jim Crow or Segregation was. He didn’t suffer from the sting of discrimination or the fear of the KKK/Police/Democrats. He’s lived the gilted life of Affirmative Action.

Someone should ask Cain about his father’s relationship with Robert Woodruff. Robert Woodruff, along with being the CEO of Coke, was also a huge supporter of the civil rights movement. He wasn’t a publicity hound which is why most people don’t know his important actions. I’ll bet Mr. Cain helped Woodruff in ways that will amaze folks.

#82 October 12, 2011 at 7:44 am

gage commented:

The black experience in America–growing up in Asia, Hawaii, and Ivy League universities!

Yeah–Cain was so wrong…

#83 October 12, 2011 at 8:02 am

StandUpChuck commented:

Cain is correct. Jim you need to hide your disdain for Cain a little better and stop cheerleading for the RINO Perry. Cain is for real and he has earned my vote.

#84 October 12, 2011 at 8:05 am

Bill Mitchell commented:

Based upon Chris Christie’s comments yesterday when asked about his willingness to take take the VP slot, I would say it is a good bet he will be Romney’s running mate.

A formidable ticket.

I think it is clear that Romney’s Team probably went to Christie as Christie was deciding on a run and said, hey, if you step back, we’ll make you our VP pick.

Yes, these two are not pure right wing Conservatives, however, with a Republican House and Senate behind them, they will surely govern center-right (which to remind everyone, is what America is – whether you like it or not).

Face it, Romney/Christie would get a HELL OF A LOT of Independent/Moderate Democrat votes.

** P.S., I just have a feeling Cain will fade with time. I like him, but he just doesn’t seem presidential to me – honestly more like a guy that would be the CEO of a pizza chain.

#85 October 12, 2011 at 8:07 am

Hugh commented:

If you want to be correct about it—Obama is the first bi-racial president. He was raised by his white relatives and spent a lot of his youth outside of the continental US. And Cain is right about him not being part of the black experience in America for the most part. The facts are the facts. What’s to quibble about?

#86 October 12, 2011 at 8:07 am

Bill Mitchell commented:

One other thing to consider. With a center/right POTUS ticket, America is more likely to give Republicans big majorities in the House and Senate than they might be if the ticket was far right.

#87 October 12, 2011 at 8:07 am

litusa commented:

I happen to agree with Cain..bring up my friends half black child in a white neighbourhood for a few years they just don’t have the same experiences most black people have ..and anyway Obama is not black..he is mixed race will people stop disregarding half of his family and the most important half in upbringing at that..

#88 October 12, 2011 at 8:26 am

driguana commented:

Let the race debate (wars) begin!!! Cain didn’t pull any punches and what he says about Obama is basically correct. Now watch black liberals squirm trying to deal with the truth. And gotta give Bill O’Reilly props for HIS “debate” last night with West and Smiley…time to talk folks…time to lay it on the table. It’s much more credible to listen to real dialogue than to rhetorical slogans (and signs) being thrown around.

#89 October 12, 2011 at 8:28 am

Jenny commented:

I don’t mind what Cain said and he is pointing out the obvious. obama thinks he owns the black vote. He doesn’t. There is a different option for African-Americans who wish to vote for another AA…

I’ve been on both sides of the aisle and can see Romney and Christie for who they are. They are truly wolves in sheeps clothing. They and Huntsman are AGW people. They are smart people so they obviously know this is a worldwide scam. This tells me they are involved in some way and stand to make $$. This cannot happen.

The only choice is Perry. He refuses to believe in the global warming scam and therefore I feel he has NO investment in it. He’s governed a state, lowered health care costs, has experience dealing with border enforcement, and states the truth about SS. This IS the guy. I wish it were a woman. It breaks my heart I can’t vote for Bachmann. I want a woman President in my lifetime. But my gut says I have to go with Perry for these reasons. I will give $$ to his campaign and fight tooth and nail so that Romney/Christie progressives do not reach the white house.

#90 October 12, 2011 at 8:30 am

Deanna commented:

To cut to the chase…sorry Jim you’re wrong. Cain is right. He didn’t say Obama wasn’t Black. It’s completely accurate to say Obama wasn’t part of the “Black experience.” Can you name one thing about Obama that was ” his authentic black experience?” Just because he is half or whatever Black is not a qualifier for the experience. The Black activists of the 60s qnd 70s would have called Obama lots of things but being part of the Black experience would not have been one of them.

#91 October 12, 2011 at 8:34 am

workingclass artist commented:

So basically Cain says he should be the GOP nominee because of his Tax Raising Gimmick 999 Plan…And…Wait for it…..Because He’s Black.

E P I C F A I L

(That sound you will soon be hearing is passengers jumping off the Cain Train as it crashes)

#92 October 12, 2011 at 8:34 am

gerirutzen commented:

Jim Hoft:

OBAMA IS NOT BLACK! HE IS A TOTAL FRAUD! Herman Cain is correct!

Ethnically he is 50% Caucasian, 44% Kenyan Arab and 6% African Negro.

Read the research yourself: http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/02/barak-obama-questions-about-ethnic.html

#93 October 12, 2011 at 8:46 am

tom beebe st louis commented:

Cain’s my favorite for his direct communication of principled ideas. I also support Paul’s ideas on abolishing the Fed and a return to the gold standard. Would Cain, in spite of his Fed experience, support such a change? Quite possibly, and he should be questioned specifically on this issue. I believe the 9-9-9 idea has the value of wiping the board clean and starting over on taxes. Its the only way to get rid of all the special interest exclusions, aka loopholes. The 9-9-9 plan is easy to understand and suffices for the campaign as a call for true reform. I would hope the “system” will modify it without abandoning that principle. I, for one, would like to see all federal taxes, and all “entitlements” completly reformed with aflat tax having four exemptions, a personal one to make it progressive, plus education, health care and investment to help develop a smart, healthy and well-tooled workforce. With all taxes in one plan, we at least would be able to see the total cost of government, now hidden in a maze of indirect taxation. This latter “transparency” and simplifcation is what I believe Cain is after. Sure beats anything else offered (was there anything else offered?)

#94 October 12, 2011 at 8:52 am

Ruebacca commented:

Cain grew-up drinking from the fountain labeled black. He can say what ever he wants.

#95 October 12, 2011 at 9:13 am

olm commented:

Cain is absolutely right. He needs no restraint.

#96 October 12, 2011 at 9:18 am

olm commented:

Also absolutely correct was the debate last night with BOR and Smiley and the PHD guy. And enough of the 1%/99% bullshi*.
If we are going to allow these leftists to transform our country into a socialist nightmare, let’s at least get some truths out there.

#97 October 12, 2011 at 9:23 am

Bobbi commented:

He’s not the fist mulatto president. There i substantial evidence that a number of other presidents that have African genes.as far as Ivama he us 43% Arab 50% Caucasian 6% Sfrican.

#98 October 12, 2011 at 9:23 am

Adirondack Patriot commented:

Cain is right. Go and see for yourself how Barack grew up outside of the black experience that 99 percent (that’s a popular term now, so I’m going to use it) of black Americans.

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaEducation.htm

#99 October 12, 2011 at 9:26 am

Adirondack Patriot commented:

No, wait. I just found out. Obama watched reruns of “Good Times” and “The Jeffersons” when he got high at Columbia University, so his black experience is complete.

My bad.

#100 October 12, 2011 at 9:41 am

Locutisprime commented:

Anyone here capable of enlightening us all on Obama’s shared (American) black experience? Perhaps they can begin with his Malaysian Jakarta experiences as a boy. From ages six to ten, Obama attended local schools in Jakarta. Then maybe we can move on to his Hawaiian adolescence and his tutelage by avowed communists and anti America Marxists. While he attended Punahou School, a private college preparatory school, from the fifth grade until his graduation from high school in 1979.

Or perhaps we can be enlightened as to Obama’s college years at Columbia University and his foreign student loans and affirmative action entitlements. Or perhaps they can address his Harvard years and all the other blacks in his class who had struggled through to reach Harvard.

Yep, there is a lot shared black experience isn’t there.

I’ll wait….

#101 October 12, 2011 at 9:42 am

Joe commented:

Herman Cain is exactly correct. Obama (Barry), half black, grew up mostly after the civil rights era in a white household in Hawaii and in Indonesia. Herman Cain grew up in the ‘Jim Crow’ of the South, and lived through the entire civil rights era. Cain knew what it was like to drink at seperate water fountains and eat at seperate resturants and be treated like a second class citizen. Obama was never exposed to any of that. That is the truth. Obama learned about the experiences of people like Herman Cain in the history books.

#102 October 12, 2011 at 9:51 am

RKflorida commented:

Cain is precisely correct. Being president is an American experience. Obama has never experienced the “Soul” of being black in America. He may be the first black president, but he is not the first “Black” president.

#103 October 12, 2011 at 9:52 am

Carolina Kathy commented:

Like many of the other posters, I disagree with Mr. Holt here. Mr. Cain has been attacked by the left by not being ‘authentically black’ – this is his accurate and truthful response.

It’s a sad day on this blog when Jim Holt sounds more like Lawrence O’Donnell than Jim Holt.

#104 October 12, 2011 at 10:01 am

RKflorida commented:

Carolina Kathy: hehe Hoft, not Holt but I agree with you.

#105 October 12, 2011 at 10:08 am

mg4us commented:

Obama is not the first “Black President” . . he is only half black so he is the first Half & Half President. . yet still a big nothing. .President Zero

And his Blackness is not part of the US Black history. .he is East African from a Kenyan Muslim tribe. . the ones that enslaved fellow Africans and sold them to traders in ports along the coast.

Obama is also constitutionally ineligible to serve as he was born a DUEL Citizen thus not a naturally born American requiring two American parents. .

Our country is falling apart due to the rot within. . for failing to live according to constitutional law.

#106 October 12, 2011 at 10:13 am

workingclass artist commented:

@#103

“Like many of the other posters, I disagree with Mr. Holt here. Mr. Cain has been attacked by the left by not being ‘authentically black’ – this is his accurate and truthful response.”

Double standard….reeks when it’s obvious doesn’t it.

So Gov. Perry gets slammed for his “liberal heart” comment that offended conservatives.

BUT…It’s OK for Herman Cain to play the liberal race card and it’s Legit for Romney to say Romneycare shows he cares about the poor kids & Texas doesn’t.

Herman Cain’s 999 plan sucks and he showed last night he doesn’t have a clue about legislative procedure. He defended TARP…NOT auditing the FED…Raising Taxes & Former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan for crying out loud!

Ron Paul nailed him on that…Greenspan was a disaster!

Unbelievable.

#107 October 12, 2011 at 10:17 am

AuntieMadder commented:

@ #100 Locutisprime: Why are you challenging GP readers? The majority of us are in agreement with you.

#108 October 12, 2011 at 10:24 am

Smarty commented:

Obama was raised in Kenya and Indonesia, then by his wealthy white grandmother later.

Is this the “black experience”?

#109 October 12, 2011 at 10:33 am

retire05 commented:

The problem with Herman Cain’s statement is not that he is factually correct. It’s that it is politically stupid. Cain is claiming he can garner 30% of the black vote, but even if you discount the fact that some blacks voted for Obama based on Obama’s skin tone, black Americans have been the largest voting bloc for Democrats for almost 80 years. If you check the breakdown of previous elections, blacks voted almost in toto for the Democrat nominee.

Bill Cosby, Larry Elder, Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell have been basically saying the same thing, for decades, Herman Cain is now saying. Yet, there has been no sizable movement by black voters away from the Democrat Party.

You don’t sway voters to vote for you by telling them they are “brainwashed” and basically are not in control over their own opinions. You don’t sway voters by insulting them, and that is how black America is going to view Cain’s statement. Blacks view Obama as black. The rest of the nation views Obama as black. His upbringing has nothing to do with how blacks view Obama. His skin tone has everything to do with how they view him.

Were blacks proud to vote for Obama as the first real black candidate? Yes, just as someone from Missouri would be proud to vote for the first Missourian, or Asians were proud to vote for Chu or Hispanics are proud to vote for someone with a Hispanic surname. The pride in seeing someone of your ethnicity elected is understandable. Are we to think that Massachussets voters would not be proud to see Mitt Romney elected?

Herman Cain needs to learn to temper his statements. If he wants to garner the black vote that sits on the fence, he needs to point out how the Democrats have basically destroyed the black family, creating the problems now in their communities. Cain will get pushback from those poverty pimps like Sharpton and Jackson, but he can offset that by stressing the positive in the black community that is not the gangbanger segment; strong family ties, strong religious beliefs, a belief in hard work and personal responsibility. Those blacks do exist and those are the blacks that Cain needs to appeal to. Insulting them as a whole is not going to cut it.

Lawrence O’Donnell is a clear example of the push back that Cain is going to get from black Democrats. And he handled the O’Donnell interview quite well, but it is time for him to now move away from the race thing. Cain said he would not inject race into his campaign, yet he is. There is a way to speak the truth without being insulting. Cain needs to learn the difference.

#110 October 12, 2011 at 10:36 am

workingclass artist commented:

Looks like Romney will choose Christie as his VP….So I guess Cain was burned…

And Obamalite’s coronation certainty is getting really really tedious…UGH!

#111 October 12, 2011 at 10:39 am

retire05 commented:

Smarty, it doesn’t matter to black voters where Obama was raised. He is, in their eyes, BLACK. It is obvious that blacks were not concerned about his personal history. They were concerned about his skin tone. Nothing else.

Why do you think Obama has tried to divide this nation by race? Because he knows what I just told you. He is viewed as black, and if he can make blacks think that whitey is against ALL of them, he wins their votes by an additional 5% over the historic percentages.

#112 October 12, 2011 at 10:40 am

bitterclinger commented:

“he needs to show some restraint once in awhile.” Just like John McCain???? Look what that got us.

#113 October 12, 2011 at 10:41 am

bg commented:

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listen to the tape

BOORTZ SAYS “Obama’s Never Been a Part of the Black Experience
in America”, AND CAIN REPEATS IT.. HE ALSO DOESN’T REPEAT IT A
DEROGATORY TONE ONE WOULD IMAGINE VIA THE “If Herman Cain
wants to be the second black American president he needs to show
so me restraint once in awhile” COMMENT.. IT’S HARDLY EVEN
NOTICEABLE, I HAD TO LESTEN TO THE TAPEE 3 TIMES BEFORE
I PICKED IT UP.. LISTEN TO THE TAPE.. DAMN, I WISH HE HAD SAID
IT.. GAH!!

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#114 October 12, 2011 at 10:42 am

bg commented:

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re: #113 October 12, 2011 at 10:41 am bg

IT A = IT IN A

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#115 October 12, 2011 at 10:47 am

Gary commented:

Ruebacca

The fountains weren’t labeled “black”. They were labeled “colored”. That was the PC term at the time.
Also Cain talked in one of his books about drinking from the “white” fountain to see what was different about the water.

#116 October 12, 2011 at 10:47 am

workingclass artist commented:

@retire05

agreed…and since Blacks only makeup 13% of the voting population…really how much can Cain expect to win over…and this will tank with independents who will see it or what it is…low brow politics. Latinos will be unimpressed and they are the fastest growing voting block.

When Perry comes out with phase 1 of his economic plan this week it will be solid…the data will hold together & jive with regional data and Cain will tumble because it will show a clear distinction with Romneycare 159 points & 999. Energy production is the fastest way to jumpstart the economy all over the place providing 1.2 million jobs to start and Christie can choke on his AGW delay on frakkin in NJ while PA rakes in the money and jobs. Liberals heads will explode…

Strategy & Tactics….It’s a beautiful thing.

Gig Em’
Perry 2012

#117 October 12, 2011 at 10:53 am

Jayne on the Left Coast commented:

Cain is RIGHT..

#118 October 12, 2011 at 11:09 am

Adirondack Patriot commented:

The importance of Cain’s statement isn’t about getting the black vote. The importance of Cain’s statement is that for the first time in 12 years, someone has had the balls to speak the truth about the myth of Obama.

Yes, the myth of Obama includes the notion that his experience as a black man makes him a uniquely qualified person to address the country’s problems, including race.

Cain is confronting that myth because a white candidate would be excoriated for doing so. That’s how screwed up politics are thanks to liberals and the politically correct.

Cain is right.

#119 October 12, 2011 at 11:10 am

retire05 commented:

#117, Jayne, it doesn’t matter that Cain is right, or what the inflection in his voice was when he said it. It matters how blacks will read those comments, or how they hear them repeated by someone esle. And they are not going to take into consideration how Cain spoke those words.

They are going to view Cain’s words as a slam against another BLACK person. Cain’s words were not designed for a black audience, but a white one.

Those who support Herman Cain do so because they perceive him to be the best qualified candidate in the GOP race. There is nothing to go on to determine how he would govern. He has never held so much as a city council seat. It is all perception on the part of his supporters, and blacks are no different. It is how they perceive his statements, now how he made them.

#120 October 12, 2011 at 11:14 am

Adirondack Patriot commented:

And if you think that Cain was going to get the black vote as a Republican, you’re living in la-la land.

Ask blac Republican candidate Jackie Robinson how that helped him in Massachusetts against Ted Kennedy. Or Michael Steele in Maryland in 2006. Or Alan Keyes in Illinois in 2004 or Maryland in 1992.

Cain is seeking the support of people outside of the “black vote.”

#121 October 12, 2011 at 11:20 am

Freddy commented:

2 days ago ALL the media was claiming Cain had attacked ALL unemployed and poor people in the country! Then last nite, we heard Cain correct the lie when one of the repeaters of the lie asked him about the claim as though it were the truth.

Now we have a cherry picked statement from yet another incomplete discussion.

Some Republicans are already releasing their attack dogs on each other. As we learned in the 2008 campaign, Romney has a very large attack wing within his campaign. Are we now looking at the Romney dirty trick machine stressing out as their candidate fails to gain traction?

As for all of the ‘Cain is the Fed’ comments here today, it would appear that the Ron Paul supporters are attempting to push this claim as their critical attack as their candidate cannot gain any traction of any kind. They really dodged a bullet last night as Paul was not asked about the Iranian plot. I suspect when he is asked, he will end his own campaign once and for all.

#122 October 12, 2011 at 11:25 am

bg commented:

++

8:13 mark:

Neal Boortz:

“Oh, don’t forget “the black experience in
America”, which he’s never been a part of.”

Herman Cain:

“he’s never been a part of the black experience in America. etc..”

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#123 October 12, 2011 at 11:47 am

SFIndie commented:

Obama is not the first black president, he’s the first bi-racial president. To deny half of his heritage is disrespectful to the side of his family that raised him, supported him, and was instrumental in giving him everything he wanted in order to get where he is today. Which of course is the problem, as he’s never had to struggle or work for anything, it’s always been given to him.

#124 October 12, 2011 at 11:48 am

greenfairie commented:

Sorry, but Cain is dead on correct with this one. Obama had to craft a black American identity because his experience is nothing like that of other black Americans, rich, poor, or middle class. Not saying it’s good or bad, it’s just a fact.

#125 October 12, 2011 at 11:57 am

Militant Conservative commented:

123

your confusing me. So is Obama an affirmative action hire or a spoiled rich white kid???

kinda sucks huh liberals, but them’s your choices.

powder is dry

#126 October 12, 2011 at 12:25 pm

workingclass artist commented:

According to business insider Cain lost his tea party support last night with his Greenspan fan comment.
http://www.businessinsider.com/this-is-the-moment-that-herman-cain-lost-the-tea-party-vote-2011-10

This morning on NBC it gets worse…And well it pretty much undercuts his economic expertise quite a bit. Given that financial journalists and economists had been writing about the problems for quite a while.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2005/01/24/8234040/index.htm

“Todd challenges Cain on a 2005 column he wrote that dismissed concerns of a “bad economy” and a housing bubble, the latter of which at least turned out to be all too true. Cain admits that he didn’t see it coming, which prompts the obvious follow-up question from Todd about just how good his economic instincts actually are….”

“TODD: Well, in 2008, this is September 1st, 2008, another column you wrote about the economy, and it reads as follows. You wrote, “The supposed failure of Bush’s economic policies has been a constant theme of the Democrats since the 2006 elections. When the Democrats regained control of the House and Senate by convincing enough of the voters that the economic sky was falling, and that the war in Iraq could not be won. Based on all of their convention speeches, they plan to continue those themes right through Election Day on November 4.”

Economic sky was [not] falling, you said September 2008. Fifteen days later, of course, the Lehman Brothers collapse — we know what happened after that: a total near sky-is-falling moment. So how — I guess I would say this. How do you reassure voters that, despite all the experience you’re running on in the business community, your time on the Fed, you missed the housing bubble and you missed the economic collapse….

CAIN: Well, it’s real simple, Chuck. I have economic advisers working with me now who spend time studying these various analyses. When I wrote those papers, I was only responding to reports that I, like everybody else, was getting through the media, those kind of public reports. I wouldn’t –

TODD: Which turned out to be right, by the way. You were criticizing those reports, but they turned out to be right.

CAIN: Well, yeah. But what I am saying is I’m going to have, I will have people around me who are going to help me do deeper analyses on some of these things, okay? So yeah, I missed some of these things. I’m not perfect. I’m very quick to say I’ve made a mistake or I missed it, but I didn’t have sophisticated analyses helping me to draw the conclusions I was drawing at that time….” – NBC

( “That’s not exactly a confidence builder. If Cain didn’t have access to “sophisticated analyses,” then why was he drawing conclusions at all? And how sophisticated an analysis would it have taken to see housing prices had become serious decoupled from inflation starting in 1999? By 2005, the Bush administration had already warned Congress twice about the housing market, specifically about exposure at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, to no avail. It’s not as though the overheating in the housing market was a secret in August 2005.”) – Ed Morrissey HotAir

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/12/cain-i-didnt-realize-in-2005-that-the-housing-bubble-existed/

#127 October 12, 2011 at 12:29 pm

Mary commented:

There isn’t a human alive who hasn’t at one time or another said something they wish they either hadn’t said, or wished they would have phrased differently. For years the media has hounded people to make news…if it bleeds, it leads. You can’t do/say anything without someone turning it into something it wasn’t. We have become so uncivilized; waiting for someone to make a mistake, perceived or otherwise.

If you want a “perfect” candidiate then you better pray that Our Lord Jesus Christ comes back to Earth soon to run for office. Prayer would be good, nevertheless.

Herman Cain is the Real Deal, unlike the “make believe” we currently have in The White House.

Cain/Gingrich 2012

#128 October 12, 2011 at 12:33 pm

bg commented:

++

M C #125 October 12, 2011 at 11:57 am

you’re confused because “affirmative action”
is nowhere to be found in that statement..

if you’re confused, blame your notion of Obama being an “affirmative
action” recipient and a a “rich white kid”, both of which are ludicrous
on their own, understandable in combination.. not confusing at all..

oh btw,

in case you hadn’t heard of Don/ald Warden aka Dr
Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour, there ya go..

[click on links and scroll threads for more, or not, come to your
own conclusions, but please don't say you were never informed]

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#129 October 12, 2011 at 12:47 pm

bg commented:

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#126 October 12, 2011 at 12:25 pm
workingclass artist

re: [According to business insider Cain lost his tea party
support last night with his Greenspan fan comment.]

so far, that’s just an opinion..

here’s mine..

that’s just perspective projecting, geared to direct
ones thought process to the desired conclusions..

bottom line:

should the TEA Party lose Cain, they don’t have a candidate per se..

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#130 October 12, 2011 at 12:58 pm

bg commented:

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ps re: #128 October 12, 2011 at 12:33 pm bg

re; M C #125 October 12, 2011 at 11:57 am

maybe this will help??

disclaimer: imho it’s all BS, Obama was “groomed” to do exactly what he’s
doing, and he’s doing it a hell of a lot better than i expected, else he’d be
behind bars by now..

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#131 October 12, 2011 at 1:00 pm

IOpian commented:

Cain is right. Obama barely grew up with an American experience let alone that of a black American experience. At least that’s what we have been allowed to know.

#132 October 12, 2011 at 1:07 pm

bg commented:

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#126 October 12, 2011 at 12:25 pm
workingclass artist

re: [Cain: I didn’t realize in 2005 that the housing bubble existed]

at least he’s an honest “outsider” (and a quick learner), more than i can
say about “insider” Perry not not knowing (or lying) the facts about his
own charge so to speak..

bit of Cain trivia (something he really knew & knows about)..

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#133 October 12, 2011 at 1:09 pm

workingclass artist commented:

Romney = Obamalite

Cain = Greenspan lovin’ Political empty suit ( I missed the housing bubble but I’ll have good people around me this time in the WH ) & Hey Folks 999 I’m Blacker than Obama 999 so nominate me 999!.

Yeah…It’s Back to promoting his book & back to the third tier for Celebrity Mr. Cain….

#134 October 12, 2011 at 1:21 pm

Militant Conservative commented:

BG not confused at all, just having fun with the gulible left.

Thank you though.

#135 October 12, 2011 at 1:23 pm

Fuzzy commented:

Cain’s right, Jim.

#136 October 12, 2011 at 1:25 pm

bg commented:

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#133 October 12, 2011 at 1:09 pm
workingclass artist

re: [Romney = Obamalite]

lol..

Perry = Obamadark

ACORN

DREAM ACT

PERRY & ISLAM

TASK FORCE FOR HILLARY CARE

IN-STATE TUITION FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS

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#137 October 12, 2011 at 1:27 pm

bg commented:

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#134 October 12, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Militant Conservative

(((..right back at ya..)))

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#138 October 12, 2011 at 1:34 pm

retire05 commented:

Fuzzy, NO ONE is saying what Cain said is WRONG. What we have been trying to tell you is that saying things like that are not going to gain anything for Cain and it will only serve to create more racial divide in this nation. He needs to temper his statements with a little common sense.

#139 October 12, 2011 at 1:41 pm

bg commented:

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re: #129 October 12, 2011 at 12:47 pm bg

disclaimer re: TEA Party

they have Michele Bachmann, whom i think had the best (albethey
too story long, hence, not concise enough) responses last night..

problem, imho, is..

she too is up against the “good ole boys” in the Republican establishment,
ergo, not only stands even less a chance of acquiring their support than Cain, but more attacks as well..

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#140 October 12, 2011 at 1:47 pm

bg commented:

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retire05 #138 October 12, 2011 at 1:34 pm

pay attention, do some research..

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#141 October 12, 2011 at 2:01 pm

Jaimo commented:

Sounds like Cain was technically accurate. Obama hasn’t been part of the black experience in America. His parents are not descendents of slaves, he never lived in the ‘hood, never felt discrimination, in fact he had many opportunities that most blacks at that time never had. His mother and grandparents were well off and had jobs, had insurance. The Won went to a private school for some part of his education. He’s been groomed and kissed up to his whole life, sounds like he had it pretty cushy.

At least Michelle’s family are descendents of slaves so she would be considered authentically black.

#142 October 12, 2011 at 2:04 pm

bg commented:

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Cain picks up endorsement of former New Hampshire GOP chairman

[Cain came to New Hampshire in July to headline a fundraiser for Kimball,
calling the then-chairman "my friend." But in September, Kimball resigned
after what he called "tremendous pressure" and political "threats" from
establishment Republicans.]

and in case you missed it, so did Lee Greenwood..

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#143 October 12, 2011 at 2:14 pm

Druid commented:

Among liberal arts types “the Black Experience in America” or “the African American experience” actually mean something.

Cain, like most black Americans his age, lived that experience.
Obama, like Anthony Johnson, was an event in that experience.

#144 October 12, 2011 at 2:43 pm

Rosalie commented:

Obama is not one-half black. He’s only 12% black (if that), 38% arabic, and 50% white. I’ve also read that he’s only 6.25 black and 43.75% Arabic. So I don’t know which is correct.

#145 October 12, 2011 at 2:56 pm

bg commented:

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re: #136 October 12, 2011 at 1:25 pm bg

any problems with links posted..

here you go, take your pick:

Perry and ACORN

Perry and The DREAM ACT

PERRY and ISLAM

Perry and TASK FORCE FOR HILLARY CARE

Perry and IN-STATE TUITION FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS

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#146 October 12, 2011 at 3:05 pm

bg commented:

++

don’t matter to me what color, creed,
or credentials Obama has or has not..

he is not an American at heart..

he’s a cold & soulless man on a mission, and albeit symbolically, he’s
the closest thing to a real live Cyborg i’ve ever witnessed in my over
6 decades on planet Earth..

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#147 October 12, 2011 at 3:15 pm

RedBeard commented:

BG, some cyborgs are a lot nicer than Obama. C-3PO, Lt. Cmdr. Data, Robbie, all have more soul.

#148 October 12, 2011 at 4:02 pm

S. Wolf commented:

bg #145

You’re on a roll. May the better man win in the primaries and if it be Cain I won’t begrudge him and will work to get him into the WH. ABO except Romney, so Cain or Perry. And a 100% GOP Congress if not too much to ask.

#149 October 12, 2011 at 4:02 pm

Jackson commented:

Cain speaks the truth………Obama’s no American black man! We don’t claim the fraud.

#150 October 12, 2011 at 4:04 pm

Osamas Pajamas commented:

OhBummer is a fictional character. I think he’s part white and part Arab and not black or Afro at all.

THE AGE OF OHBUMMER

OhBummer is a fool for attacking the American Tea Partiers. Heck, he thought that he had all of us hoodwinked, hornswoggled, and bamboozled. He’s annoyed that the Tea Partiers are not grateful to him for hijacking the American healthcare system — the greatest act of vandalism perpetrated upon the American people since a gang of jihadi frootloops and loonytoons hijacked some planes and crashed them into the World Trade Center towers — and the Pentagon, and made a failed attempt to crash into the White House — and instead drilled a hole in a Pennsylvania farm thanks to some very courageous American passengers.

And — now widely seen for what he is — the president presents a problem for the Democrat-captured media. They pump out his propaganda for him — and, like the opinion monitors in Ayn Rand’s novel, “Atlas Shrugged” — they are dodging brickbats and rotten vegetables.

He’s pompous, pampered, and pretentious — a pseudo-intellectual fop. He’s a glorified, smooth-lyin’ dandy, and slicker than Sick Willie Clinton. He’s a dictator-on-the-make, a bloodsxcking, predatory humanitarian thug, and a low-down skunk.

He’s a fraud and a swindler. He lies when he inhales and he lies when he exhales; his oxygen is the falsification of reality. He lies, placidly and laconically, as if deception were a soporific drug.

He’s a friend of the poor and the downtrodden — indeed, you can hear the milk of human kindness sloshing around inside of him when he walks.

He declares himself the post-racial leader — “Let me be clear!” he intones — and he hides behind his race, daring his critics to put their reputation for fairness at risk.

He pauses to ponder the portent of his propaganda — and it is fakery; he smiles and his mendacity comes shining through. Shake hands with Barak Hushpuppy OhBummer — “The Mistake of ‘08” — the illegal alien squatter in the White House until his “papers” have been lab-tested for age and chemicals, etc — and America’s first and last Arab president — King of The Republic of Lies. Now count your fingers.

#151 October 12, 2011 at 4:05 pm

Osamas Pajamas commented:

ROUNDS COOKING OFF

The Democrats have this “enemies list” — denominated in epithets aimed at the people whose wallets they wish to hijack and take up residence inside. You can be a “Racist!” and you can be a “Homophobe!” and you can be a “T-bagger!” — a homosexual man taking his partner’s scrotum into his mouth. You can be “Selfish!” and you can be a “Wacko!” and you can be a “Hick!” and you can be a “Rube!” and you can be an “Extremist!” You can be a “Right-wing-nut!” and you can be “Mentally Ill” and you can be “Deranged!” and you can be a “Warmonger!” and you can be “Unenlightened!” and you can be a “FatCat!” and you can be a “Nazi!” and you can be a “Fascist!” — although no one more closely approaches the precise description of “Nazi!” or “Fascist!” than the usual Democrat propagandist — either official, or self-appointed.

Lies, after all, are the heart and soul and the sword and shield of the Democrat party.

So all you have to do to occupy multiple epithets on the Democrats’ enemies list is to insist that they take their hands off yourself, off your wallet, off your property, off your kids, off your diet, off your healthcare, off your household appliances, off your car, off your bank account, off your weapons of self-defense, off your liberty, and off your freedom of speech. Insist on all these good things – and that qualifies you to be spat upon by nasty, mean-spirited scXm — by The Friends of All Mankind — by a gang of lying, thieving, dope-smoking, pill-popping, coke-snorting, sticky-fingered, bloodsxcking, tax-eating, gun-stealing, predatory humanitarian thugs — by the Democrat party, in other words. No political party in the history of America more profoundly deserves absolute and outright destruction.

#152 October 12, 2011 at 6:19 pm

Molon Labe commented:

#110
Romney/Christie looks like a sure GOP defeat. What’s the difference between these two are an Obama/Biden team? Who cares? The results will be the same.

Does this cesspool have a bottom?

#153 October 12, 2011 at 6:23 pm

Molon Labe commented:

#86

To see how demented Billy is recall the 2008 elections. Let’s hear it for the RINO’s and their delusions.

The only time the GOP does well as when they give a clear choice to the voters between the Marxists and capitalists. Fuzzy nancy boys fool no one except Billy. But htose ignorant of history choice their own reality.

#154 October 12, 2011 at 7:33 pm

bg commented:

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ht Ginger

a sleeping giant may have awoken, but the
establishment Republicans are still asleep..

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#155 October 12, 2011 at 9:07 pm

kitty commented:

Right now the only colors that matter to me are black and red. Right now our country is so deep in red. The only candidate running that I trust is Cain. He is not embedded with Washington and the dysfunction. I actually love the fact that his is Black. I hope and pray he is our First African American President.

#156 October 12, 2011 at 9:23 pm

Obama Nation commented:

Forger-in-Chief Strikes Again: Ex-Indiana Governor: That’s Not My Signature on Obama’s 2008 Ballot Petition

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/10/forger-in-chief-strikes-again-ex.html

#157 October 13, 2011 at 11:50 am

Valerie commented:

So, Cain was factually correct, and

#57 October 12, 2011 at 4:30 am
Rykehaven commented:

proves Jim’s point.

“Rykehaven” has to re-word what Cain said, and substitute his own translation for Cain’s repetition of the interviewer’s comment, but he manages to get it to the point of formulating an accusation of racism against Cain.

I think the only person capable of living with the kind of discipline of speech that avoids (most) malicious mistranslation was George W. Bush, and you all know how he was treated for doing that!

We can help with this. We can do it by asking for the longer quotes.

#158 October 13, 2011 at 1:39 pm

bg commented:

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ht Redwine

Cain names Jim DeMint, Paul Ryan as
possible 2012 vice presidential picks

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#159 October 13, 2011 at 1:57 pm

bg commented:

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Rise of the Unemployables

[The Economist has some terrible statistics:

Over 6 million Americans, more than 40% of all those unemployed, have now been out of work for more than six months. Most of these, 4.5 million, haven’t worked for a year or more. This crisis of long-term joblessness is unprecedented in the post-war period.

[…] Workers are escaping unemployment more slowly than at any time since 1948. The long-term unemployed are struggling most; in the year to June, the newly jobless were three times more likely to find new work in a given month than the long-term unemployed. Many of the latter have given up hope. For the first time in decades, jobless workers are more likely to drop out of the labor force (and cease to be counted as unemployed) than to get a job.

(Emphasis mine.) This latter point is important to keep in mind when considering unemployment news, because the widely reported U-3 measurement from the Bureau of Labor Statistics deliberately excludes those who have dropped out of the workforce entirely. For September, the “official” U-3 figure held steady at 9.1%, and made headlines. The real unemployment number, the U-6 measurement that includes discouraged workers, rose from 16.2% to 16.5%.]

links & more @ link..

Could Herman Cain’s ’999′ Tax Plan Really Work?

Godfather of Supply-Side Economics Supports Cain’s ’9-9-9′ Plan

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Cain: “Obama’s Never Been a Part of the Black Experience in America” …(Except That He Was the First Black President)

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