It’s About Time… Rick Perry Apologizes For Calling His Supporters “Heartless” (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 3:58 PM
Governor Rick Perry apologized today for calling his supporters “heartless.”
“I was probably a bit over-passionate by using that word and it was inappropriate.”
“Probably?
The Hill Tube reported:
Rick Perry said Wednesday that he was sorry for saying at last week’s Republican debate that those opposed to providing an in-state tuition break to the children of illegal immigrants “did not have a heart.”
“I was probably a bit over-passionate by using that word and it was inappropriate,” Perry said in a interview with Newsmax. “In Texas in 2001 we had 181 members of the legislature — only four voted against this piece of legislation — because it wasn’t about immigration it was about education.”
But Perry stood by his argument that building a fence along the entire Mexican border was unwise. The Texas governor said that the fence would likely be expensive, ineffective and violate the property rights of those who owned land on the border.
“In the metropolitan areas where the fencing actually can play a positive role, absolutely,” he said. “But you have to have boots on the ground … having an obstacle without observation is no obstacle at all. So just the idea of building a fence and saying, ‘That will take care of it, let’s just build a fence,’ has never worked in the history of mankind.”
Other candidates seized on Perry’s support of the tuition credits — and arguments against a fence — in an attempt to discredit him during the debate. Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann argued that taxpayer dollars shouldn’t benefit those in the country illegally, while Jon Huntsman suggested his position on the fence might be “treasonous.” But while Perry walked back his “heartless” comment, he insisted that his experience as governor of a border state best prepared him to handle immigration issues.
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James commented:
Apology accepted. Now go and kick obama’s ass.
Mad Hatter commented:
He’s only apologizing because his numbers are dropping.
Bob Z commented:
He should have just said that it was in state tuition for illegal’s kids, not free tuition. If the people of texas are ok with that so what. He just didn’t handle it well.
Freddy commented:
Someone should have asked Perry this simple question:
If Santorum robbed a bank to get cash to put his kid through school, should the kid get to keep the money? It is not that kids fault his daddy is a thief, is it?
JimmyT commented:
TOO late Ricky!
Craig commented:
Idiot! Once an idiot, always an idiot.
Apologizing for:
- Foe forcing Gardasil on little girls
- For not wanting a fence
- For saying you have no heart
- For having being Al Gore campaign’s manager
- For approving HillaryCare
- For the corridor higway
- For approving Sanctuary cities
- For, etc, etc, etc.
What’s next?
Bob Z commented:
I think it is just in state tuition. The kid still has to come up with the money for school just like any other kid from Texas. They are not handing them money.
Bob Z commented:
Reagan was a democrat once too Craig
Craig commented:
I hope you are not comparing Perry to Reagan, Bob… lol
Spider commented:
Ok, good, he’s trying to repair some of the glaring stuff from the debate.
He’s gotta come out of the box stronger in the next one, cause these debates are being used to select the nominee. He can’t slough it off.
daryl commented:
Takes a big guy to apologise to those he’s offended (along with those here feigning offense).
It won’t mollify his ankle-biting detractors but they don’t sway very many to their side that weren’t already there, once it’s publicly known that all their noise is for their own agendas.
Get it back on track Rick Perry and lets DO THIS THING! WE’VE A PHONEY TO REMOVE FROM THE WHITEHOUSE.
RICK PERRY 2012
Bigkahuna commented:
At least he is apologizing for it.
I still have doubts but at least he admits mistakes.
Obama doubles and triples down on stupid.
Mister Grady commented:
There ain’t no “probably” about it. He torpedoed his own campaign. Insulting people is not an effective means of gaining their vote. He’s got more problems than strengths.
I really DO wish there was an actual unapologetic across-the-board conservative running, and one which could win this thing – one which could effectively articulate the principles of conservatism and how they relate to the looming issues of our time.
decentAmerican commented:
huh? Fence not working “…in the history of mankind”?????
Great wall of China
The Berlin Wall
The Fence seperating two mortal enemies, North and South Korea
Fence seperating India and Pakistan (which is so well lit even in very mountainous areas, you can see it from space)
Fence seperating Israel from those who want to kill them in Gaza
Yes, while none of the above are fullproof, they DID work.
why can’t we do the same?
Got Billy Ayers on Speed Dial commented:
2.late.com
workingclass artist commented:
OK Gov. Perry now focus on move on.
And don’t let either the purists or the pundits slow you down.
Gig Em’
Perry 2012
retire05 commented:
Why isn’t anyone pointing out these things:
The children of illegals (77% who are U.S. born citizens according to Pew Hispanic Center) are getting in-state tuition only. No loans or grants, like Pell Grants. So when you consider all the federal grant money that is floating around, these kids are getting less.
Also, another thing no one is pointing out: illegals in Massachussets are entitled to health care insurance under the Massachussets Health Care Safety Net plan. They are also entitled to public housing (hello, Obama’s illegal aunt in Boston) although they are supposed to be living with a “legal” immigrant (again, hello, Obama’s illegal aunt).
Who is paying for all those services since Romneycare was made solvent due to an influx of $764 million from the Stimulus Bill? Who is picking up that tab? All of us.
Texans are picking up the tab for these kids. We are ALL picking up the tab for illegals via Romneycare.
Mark1957 commented:
Now tell us again Ricky, about your fellow RINO Mitt flip-floping, the way you tell it just cracks me up.
workingclass artist commented:
#14
Which of those famous walls or fences are built in a 1200 mile river…and a giant canyon?
Read A Map.
retire05 commented:
decentAmerican, walls don’t work if you don’t have the man power to guard them. How many tunnels have been dug under the border fence in just California? On Border Wars the other night, the count was 70, some of them so fancy they are lighted and have airconditioning.
retire05 commented:
Mitt Romney to the Boston Globe:
“The choice to have an abortion is a deeply personal one. Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not the government.”
Dec., 2007
But it seems Romney got abortion religion, when he was trying to run to the right of John McCain, in spite of attending Planned Parenthood fund raisers and his wife, Ann, donating to Plannned Parenthood.
Craig commented:
If Perry would have judgment, he wouldn’t have to apologized all the time.
It is clear, he has no judgment. So therefore, not fit to be POTUS.
Mike Devx commented:
I’m still mad about the border fence. We’re not asking for an impenetrable, 100%-guaranteed fence! ALL WE WANT IS A FENCE!!! At least a reasonable one. We don’t need moats. We don’t need lights. We don’t need double-fencing. We don’t need all the bells and whistles (though the more you can get… great!) JUST PUT UP A DAMNED FENCE for crying out loud.
“There are property rights issues”. Bullcrap. If a nation can’t even put up a simple fence along its border, something is seriously, seriously wrong. It takes about two feet of space.
The main thing about a fence is it says “No Entrance.” I don’t even care if it’s only 8 feet high.
The more important item is the workplace verification program – that a hired worker is legal. But a very simple fence program should be well within the capabilities of a nation.
I am NOT buying Perry’s argument, not at all. And I’ve lived in Texas for almost 30 years.
MrGoodWench commented:
he insisted that his experience as governor of a border state best prepared him to handle immigration issues.
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Yup. Perry is best prepared to handle immigration issues IN TEXAS.
JUST STAY THERE GOV PERRY.
We KNOW what exactly you think about us . You are sorry because YOU SAID IT OUT LOUD and GOT CAUGHT.
Fool me once …..etc ..etc..
daryl commented:
Does the Border Fence work? – YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfVENwfeGHw&feature=related
StrangernFiction commented:
Cain has his problems, but Rick Perry has shown me nothing. I’ll take Herman.
workingclass artist commented:
@#23
I’m a 4th generation native Texan and know exactly what Perry is talking about.
In all those 30 years have you ever been to the border… most or all of it? Been to the valley?
Been to Big Bend? Been to Eagle Pass?
I spent my youth traveling the border & I remember what it was like 30 years ago.
Know anything about Texas law because Ranchers do sure as hell do. Ever read about the Texas Rangers cause y’know they’re specialty is fighting banditos.
Have you ever been on the border throughout the southwest all the way to California?
I have and anybody else who has knows exactly what Perry is talking about.
Perry said strategic fencing where it is effective…Otherwise you use effective boots on the ground etc.
If you want a secure border Perry is the only one to do it…As POTUS he will without killing the economy.
workingclass artist commented:
@#24
“Yup. Perry is best prepared to handle immigration issues IN TEXAS.
JUST STAY THERE GOV PERRY.”
And Mitt a one time governor of Massachusetts knows better…That makes a lot of sense.
workingclass artist commented:
@#23
““There are property rights issues”. Bullcrap.”
So what you really want is a centralized federal government to build a wall, cut off water, and seize property regardless of states rights, states constitutions or individual property rights so you feel better…Is that what you’re saying?
Gee that sounds kind of….Soviet in approach.
Spider commented:
Mike Devx, Exactly!
Its not just the physical presence of a fence.
It is the delineation of the BORDER
The border is porous, fix it.
Mandy commented:
Perry is Bush lite on the immigration issue. His apology is meaningless. he only did so because he has tanked in the polls. The rest of his performance in the last debate was not very good.
bg commented:
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too bad it doesn’t eradicate a darn thing about the
facts of the matter, not to mention the following..
Are Texas Politicians Allowing Drug Cartels to Create
‘Sanitary Zone’ One-County Deep Inside U.S.?
[The report was commissioned by the Texas Legislature.
The $80,000 cost was paid for by taxpayers.
“If you want to understand the fear and threats of spillover violence
in Texas border cities, talk to the people who live there - unless they
are from El Paso,” Zahira Torres wrote in the El Paso Times:
[..]
Is anyone from either the federal or Texas governments
credible when it comes to the Texas border war zone?
A quick perusal of articles about crime and violence along the U.S.
-Mexico border on this website alone should lead to the inevitable
conclusion of a resounding NO!]
links & more @ link..
bit more here & here..
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retire05 commented:
Spider, what good is a fence if the illegals are just going to tunnel under it and jump over it because there is no one guarding the fence? If you have a swimming pool, and you fence around it but then leave the house and go out of town, how do you know the neighbor’s kids aren’t swimming while you are gone?
Mandy, why don’t you explain Rick Perry’s border policy to all of us since you seem to be so well-informed about it?
bg commented:
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Mandy #31 September 28, 2011 at 5:55 pm
really??
October 27, 2006
Bush Signs Bill Authorizing 700-Mile Fence for Border
["Unfortunately, the United States has not been in complete control of its borders for decades and, therefore, illegal immigration has been on the rise," Bush said. "We have a responsibility to address these challenges. We have a responsibility to enforce our laws. We have a responsibility to secure our borders. We take this responsibility seriously."]
(and that’s an anti-Bush LEFTIST source if ever there was one..)
tell me, exactly where does “Open-Borders-Perry-Care” fit in??
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bg commented:
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btw re: #34 September 28, 2011 at 6:10 pm bg
re: Mandy #31 September 28, 2011 at 5:55 pm
i concur with the rest of your summation..
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tommy mc donnell commented:
he is still a colonizer.
bg commented:
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fences need policing so to speak..
good jobs creator..
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daryl commented:
#37
“good jobs creator…”
good liberal thinking too. those jobs suck tax dollars like a vacuum.
Cutlers bad knee commented:
This guy has to apologize for making a remark about people being heartless to immigrants,but the a$$hole in office rips on anybody who’s on his mind at that second, and is destroying this country, and destroying families and businesses by the thousands everyday with his policies. Not to mention the racial divide he is causing……..And Perry’s apologizing, what the heck is wrong with this picture ????
Ron commented:
Where all the nista’s at? A Governor Perry thread usually brings ‘em out like fireants when you kick the top of the mound off. Probably busy sencronizing their decoder rings. As soon as they shake the bones they’ll let us know, I’m sure of it.
bg commented:
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daryl #39 September 28, 2011 at 6:30 pm
unlike illegal welfare recipients who constantly clog up emergency rooms,
and receive free educations, and don’t pay taxes, yep, they suck alright..
change the rules, employ private security services our borders..
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bg commented:
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U.S. / Mexico Border Security
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bg commented:
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daryl #39 September 28, 2011 at 6:30 pm
i know your an open border proponent..
but do you have any better ideas..
because while a fence alone won’t work, open borders is an invitation to
more & more borders opening up, ergo, a globalists dream, no doubt why
Perry signed on to the Dream Act.. also sure he’s busier than ever trying
to clean up his own act..
btw, if we didn’t have laws & procedures to follow, what do you
think this country would look like in a decade, maybe even less??
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Got Billy Ayers on Speed Dial commented:
Say, isn’t building the fence “shovel ready” work?
bg commented:
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Ron #41 September 28, 2011 at 6:37 pm
you’re the one who can’t post w/out mentioning
nista’s, ergo, you’re the biggest nista i know of..
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retire05 commented:
If Perry is so soft on border security, why did Joslyn Johnson support Perry to the point of making a video ad for his last year? Why did almost every major law enforcement agency in Texas support Perry, including the Houston Police Union, against Houston Mayor Bill White?
Why did Perry put the Sanctuary City bill back on the agenda during the special session? Why did he refuse to take the call from the Mexican ambassador and allow Humberto Leal to be put to death?
Anyone who claims that Perry, who has done more to provide border security than any other border governor, is weak on border security is lying.
tommy mc donnell commented:
does anybody wonder why the american politican is so hell bent on colonizing the united states. look at all he problems western europe is having with their colonists. do people really think it will be any different here?
daryl commented:
Bg said
“i know you’re an open borders proponent”
You don’t know jack about me and very little about anything else, but you are making everything crystal clearabout yourself.
bg commented:
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daryl #49 September 28, 2011 at 7:25 pm
you’re not a Perry fan??
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bg commented:
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retire05 #47 September 28, 2011 at 7:13 pm
links please..
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ruready? commented:
Too much is on the line to play patty cake with a waffler on immigration. Texas Toast.
retire05 commented:
ruready?, can you quote Perry’s stance on immigration? Precisely?
ruready? commented:
The American people have spoken – 68% want the fence (Rasmussen, 2010). I am more than weary of listening to “fence philosophy” from elitist politicians. You and I may differ on the fence – and I will respect your opinion. This is America. However, this is no longer about a fence – it is about listening to the people.
I will never knowingly vote for an elitist politician.
retire05 commented:
bg, what do you want links to? Joslyn Johnson? Humberto Leal? The special session agenda?
And why should I give you even one link when all you do is link back to your previous comments on this blog? Why do you expect from others what you are not willing to give?
retire05 commented:
ruready?, OK, so you want a fence. Got it. But how about answering my question instead of dodging it?
bg commented:
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why do Texans hate Perry??
why do Teachers hate Perry??
Poll Says Many Hispanics Are Against Amnesty
Texas Tea Party to Rick Perry: ‘We are fed up’
Texans:
Rick Perry Needs to Come Home and Deal With Immigration Issues
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retire05 commented:
bg, ever the petulant child.
ruready? commented:
The people want the fence – its not just me. That is the issue – not my preference – the people want the fence. I am only one person. Perry is behaving too much like an elitist on this critical immigration issue.
Nothing more needs to be said – or known – about Perry’s vies on immigration. He either supports the people – or he can forget my vote. I have voted for the last politician that thinks he knows better than his constituency.
retire05 commented:
ruready? I question your knowledge on Perry’s stance on the fence. If you cannot articulate his viewpoint, it is because you don’t know it and are just making some obscure blanket statements that have nothing to do with Rick Perry.
bg commented:
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retire05 #55 September 28, 2011 at 8:32 pm
you are constantly ridiculing me & asking questions of
everybody, yet i provide back up and links for data..
you never answer questions, nor do you ever provide back
up for any data you post, be it in the form of an opinion or
otherwise..
you want your opinions alone to stand as fact..
you refuse to provide back up..
yet if i, or someone else did what you consistently do, you would be, and
more often than not are, the FIRST to jump all over me or them,ergo, can
you say hypocrite??
bottom line:
whether YOUR OPINIONS align with facts or not..
they are useless w/out back up..
YOU bring it up YOU back it up, simple as that..
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retire05 commented:
bg, I don’t answer your questions when they are put in the form of links to your previous comments. If you want a damn question answered, ASK IT. Not link to your previous posts.
You just seem to not be able to act like an adult.
Now, what exactly is it you want a link to? Or is even that question too difficult for you?
bg commented:
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retire05
i’m not from Texas, and i have no clue, ergo, would
you please articulate Perry’s stance on the border..
thank you..
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FurryGuy commented:
For this independent conservative voter Perry’s apology sounds more damage control than heartfelt. Typical politico-speak, for sure.
Ginger commented:
bg..#63
Bg…it is called OPEN BOARDERS
Ginger commented:
Whoops! OPEN BORDERS
ruready? commented:
“I question your knowledge on Perry’s stance on the fence.”
Here is Perry’s stance. The people have spoken – but Perry thinks he knows better. I think there is a good chance that the guy is an elitist. Please do not blur this “fence” argument further. Perry is against building a fence. The people want a fence. THE PEOPLE. We need to shed our nation of these type of politicians. Hey, I know the guy is a Christian. That is a lot to be thankful for. However, that alone does not make him presidential timber.
“We know how to deal with border security, and you don’t do it by building a fence,” he said. “You do it by putting boots on the ground; you do it by using the technology that’s available … and coordinating very highly with local, state and federal officials.
retire05 commented:
bg, if you’re not from Texas, you sure like to run your mouth about Perry as if you were. So basically, all you are doing is taking any negative thing about Perry that you find on YouTube, or from a Palin supporting website like “thespeechatimeforchoosing”, left wing Texas press like the Houston Chronicle that supported every Democrat that every ran in Texas (including Bill White) (not to mention your incessant links to your previous comments).
Now, I will give you the history of Joslyn Johnson:
In 2006, Houston Police Officer made a standard traffic stop. He arrested the perp, and put the perp in the back of the squad car. What Officer Johnson did not know was that the perp had a gun shoved down the waist of his pants. Juan Leonardo Quintero shot Officer Johnson in the back of the head four times.
Quintero was an illegal alien who had already been deported more than once, once for indecency with a child. But Officer Johnson was not able to check on his immigration status due to the mayor of Houston, and the Houston Police Chief issuing orders that Houston cops could not do that. i.e. a sanctuary city.
Houston Police Sgt. Joslyn sued the City of Houston for the death of her husband. She contends that Houston Police officers are not allowed to take standard precautions when arresting suspected illegals by being able to verify their residency via the federal data base. She lost her case in the lower court, but late last week, the 5th Court of Appeals overturned the lower court ruling and her case is now going forward.
In 2010, Joslyn Johnson cut a video ad supporting Governor Perry over her own mayor, and boss. Bill White raised a stink, claiming that Sgt. Johnson had been pressured by Perry to make the ad. She had to give a statement to the press that the ad was done by her under no pressure. She slammed Bill White in that statement. The Houston Police Union also supported Perry against Bill White.
All this you can find on the web. Unless you are just too lazy to check it out, at which point you will not be able to link back to your own comments.
Now, do you think a Houston police officer, whose husband was also a Houston police officer killed by an illegal, would support a governor who was soft on illegal immigration? If you do, you are dumber than I originally thought.
bg commented:
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retire05 #62 September 28, 2011 at 8:51 pm
BS
the only reason you won’t answer them is because you can’t..
if you had answered my questions, i wouldn’t have to follow
you from post to post, ergo, there would be no “linkage”..
of which i might add, is at least provided, whereas it’s all talk
& zippo linkage to back up either your assertions or opinions..
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bg commented:
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retire05 #68 September 28, 2011 at 9:11 pm
no link, no read..
like me dad used to say, no ticky, no shirty..
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retire05 commented:
ruready? Why did you leave out the fact that Perry has called for fencing, in strategic areas like cities where the local police can monitor it?
Or does admitting that not fit with your claims that Perry wants NO fence?
From the left wing Houston press:
http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/2011/09/on-immigration-perry-and-obama-not-as-similar-as-romney-camp-claims
retire05 commented:
bg, stop playing your games. You are boring.
bg commented:
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re: #69 September 28, 2011 at 9:11 pm bg
btw retire05, in case you haven’t figured it our yet, you don’t even have
to bother clicking on the links i provided to respond to the questions, go
figure..
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bg commented:
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retire05 #68 September 28, 2011 at 9:11 pm
fyi: there’s too numerous to count info to be found via the web..
however, you specifically posted specific info
in here, so you either back it up or shut up..
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ruready? commented:
Rick Perry said, “We know how to deal with border security, and you don’t do it by building a fence,”.
Who is “we”, kimosabe? It sure is not the PEOPLE who, by 68%, want a fence (Rasmussen, 2010).
Hey, retire05, who do you think Rick Perry is referring to as “we”?
Your man is an elitist.
bg commented:
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3, 2, 1, test..
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bg commented:
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retire05 #71 September 28, 2011 at 9:17 pm
lol, to sum that whole lot of words with little
substance pieced together up, it’s a wash..
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retire05 commented:
ruready? Are you too stupid to read links which disputes your half given quote of Perry?
Why don’t you just say “I don’t like Perry. End of story” and be done with it instead of falsifying what the man said.
Let me guess, you’re a Ron Paul or Sarah Palin fan.
Molon Labe commented:
#33
Retarded:
Wow what good is a fence if it is unguarded? Think you just answered your own question. Now if you add a few watchtowers, mines, attack dogs and a moat like they do at any secured facility you wouldn’t have illegals.
But as long as we have idiots like you one day something will cross the border that will wipe out a city.
retire05 commented:
BTW, ruready? We, as in “we Texans”.
Now, tell us all what wonderful state you’re from that has such a great record on border control.
Molon Labe commented:
#71
Retarded:
Yup lets put up fences in cities and leave the rest of the frontier open, sort of like you locking your front door but leaving the back door open. That will stop criminals for sure. And kiddies that’s why Leftists always envy others peoples things.
Molon Labe commented:
#29
Working Ass says the Federal government shouldn’t seize private property. Unless like it protects darter snails, or its for a new facility for La Raza.
People like this are the first ones to protest the 2nd Amendement, voter ID, or Gitmo. People who have never, would never deign to sacrifice one of their precious rights if it meant they had to be responsible for one of their duties as a citizen.
Molon Labe commented:
#17
Retarded:
Must you demonstrate your ignorance and stupidity yet again.
First of all the Pew Center is a lobbying agent for La Raza so why quote it. Take a look at their funding. Joke time.
But if they could hope to trace 77% of illegal children there is absolutely no reason we can deport all these illegals effortlessly. This rids us of another favorite Leftist meme.
Second anyone who understands the 14th Amendment understands there is no such thing as birth right citizenship for illegal aliens because they were never under the jurisdiction of the US government. This is the reason that most American Indian tribes weren’t considered American citizens for decades after the 14th amendment was passed and why today many classes of individuals who are born in the US aren’t considered brithright citizens. There is absolutely no difference between the child of a diplomat born in the US not being a citizen and an illegal alien having a child here.
We do have a court system that has shredded our Constitution and has done so for at least a century. Its time to enforce the Constitution and dismantle every federal court not specified in the Constitution.
You might also review the 1996 Immigratytion Act which forbides in state tuition. Apparently you like other Lefties only like the lawwhen it promotes your agenda, otherwise its a mere piece of paper.
Why not just lobby for an Enbabling Act for your pressie Hussain?
bg commented:
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retire05 #78 September 28, 2011 at 10:37 pm
retire05 #80 September 28, 2011 at 10:38 pm
see what i mean, answers all questions with questions, never an answer..
good disciple..
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Sandy commented:
I love Perry — he is the real deal. Its easy to come up with the media sanctioned right answers when you have no skin in the game and no real political beliefs. But then there is the horse race aspect which is required by the media to keep their ratings up. No matter that this nation is in deep doo doo the games must go on.
Perhaps Republicans should attack the real enemy Obama and follow Reagan’s 11th Commandment. Thou shall not be negative toward another Republican.
Molon Labe commented:
Perry is another politician who has his finger up to the wind. He is without principles. He is a joke. Apparently he’d rather subsidize illegal aliens than allow deserving students a chance for an education. An illegal in Texas is so much more worthy than someone who lives in Arkansas or doesn’t have the wherewithall in Texas. So how does Perry justify diverting these monies to illegals. How far would he do this as President.
If you think this isn’t importabnt Obama provides at least 60 billion in foreign aid each year and god knows how much through the IMF and other money luadering schemes for the financial industry.
He is an open borders advocate who has not take one step or action, and there are many things he could do, to punish sanctuary cxities within Texas. Yet he has done nada, zip, zero.
So if you wish a McCain, a Bush or a Dole, vote for Perry, or Romney or whichever RINO you like.
bg commented:
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retir05?? daryl?? workingclass artist?? Sandy?? anyone?? Bueller??
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Blacque Jacques Shellacque commented:
Governor Rick Perry apologized today for calling his supporters “heartless.”
Too late, dude. You got one black mark against you that’ll take an act of God to make go away.
bg commented:
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Molon Labe #86 September 28, 2011 at 11:03 pm
sorry, and Bush may not have been the conservative you like, but he’s
certainly no Perry Romney or McCain (whose voting record is almost as
good as Bachmanns btw)..
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bg commented:
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re: #89 September 28, 2011 at 11:52 pm bg
just a sample..
not to mention this, or the Iraqi Liberation & keeping US
safe from numerous attacks we don’t even know about..
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Rock commented:
bg went down this road with retire05 and workingclassartist a few weeks back. They are so hopelessly in the bag for Perry that they sound like the kool aid crowd right after WTF was pronounced king almighty or his alternative or whatever. Each time Perry comes up in a thread they sweep in like a goon squad. They can blow all the smoke they want Perry made his bed now he is stuck with it, and many say, so be it. And here I thought Texans where more like the men of the Alamo than excuse making yes men. Their absolute hate when Palin’s name comes up suggest an alternative agenda, and so I tend to ignore their rantings. Like Perry they seem incline to insult those who do not accept their argument.
BruceC commented:
I am a legal resident of a midwest state and my daughter attends Texas A & M (Perry’s Alma Mater). Her tuition and fees are more than double what an Illegal Immigrant’s tuition and fees are. That immigrant is not a legal resident of Texas, either. I don’t begrudge Texas charging my daughter out of state tuition (that’s how it works). But what I do begrudge them of is treating another class of folks preferentially to my daughter. How is their status somehow more special than my daughter’s case? She lives in Texas too. If you read the Texas public university rules on gaining in state tuition they are almost impossible to meet for someone like my daughter.
To me it’s a matter of fairness. I get the whole state’s rights angle. But to treat illegal non-US citizens preferentially to legal US citizens is beyond the pale.
Rock commented:
The fact that the establishment and so many elitist posing as Conservatives back Romney makes him a marked man in my book. The sudden appearance of belligerent Perry backers on this site who are so rude and dismissive of the Conservative point of view, like Perry is a hint of future problems, and a negative for his cause. Its early, and old style Politicians are not my first choice. And no way on Earth do I vote for Romney, nothing more than a lighter skin Obama posing as a Republican..
jorgen commented:
Much more important: Is he going to do something about the illegal aliens?
Rock commented:
Judging by his supporters here, seems he is more inclined to just get along, and make no waves. And I believe the very road that got us here.
Molon Labe commented:
BG
Regarding Bush, I dislike him first and always because he pushed amnesty. Second he bungled the war against Saddam. He should never have brought up the weapons of mass destruction but just cited his repeated violations of the cease fire accords, including firing on US forces as a reason to topple his regime. He bungled our relations with Turkey and we are seeing the results today. He also failed to handle the war correctly and refrained from crushing the jihaddies. I served in enough conflicts not to appreciate restrictions on when and where firepower could be used. I have no use for politicians that seem to put American troops at risk because they can explain their deaths easier than foreign civilians. I also have no use for restrictive rules of engagement or the way terrorists when captured weren’t treated as article IV of the Geneva accords permit.
Above all do not presume to tell me about what Bush did or did not protect us from. You can’t imagine what lurks out there and Bush protected us in a manner superior to Obama, but what does that say. It was far inferior to what Reagan did. What could you expect with Powell as sec state. You might also review Bush’s wonderful buildup of the military. Essentially a procurement holiday was declared and the navy and air force suffered. The Armyt hasn’t seen a new tank in over fifteen years. Our artillery is no longer the envy of the world. It is outranged and outmatched in quality by several of our allies. At least we improved our small arms and commo. But the military has been starved of major items due to the pre occupation with nation building.
Bush was no Reagan, he wasn’t an Eisenhower, hell he wasn’t even a Coolridge. He was in fact a Roosevelt. A RINO.
Wild Thing commented:
The video is a great interview. Perry would make a fantastic president.
avafromtexas commented:
#16
“Foe forcing Gardasil on little girls
- For not wanting a fence
- For saying you have no heart
- For having being Al Gore campaign’s manager
- For approving HillaryCare
- For the corridor high way
- For approving Sanctuary cities”
Got your facts wrong:
1. Dead issue. Didn’t “force” anyone to have Gardisil. There was a waiver provided. The EO was to help the poor have insurance pay for it. It’s a dead issue. He passed another EO saying it wouldn’t happen. He’s apologized. Get over it.
2. Not wanting fence……..yeah, 1,200 miles with either the every-changing Rio as a border or the Rio at the bottom of canyons, mountains in Big Bend National Park. Can’t build a fence in the river or on mountains. He wants to put boots on the ground…….so do I. What has the present fence gotten?
3. Having “no heart”? Obviously, he feels differently than you do about what to do with the children who have arrived here through no fault of their own. 13 other states either have or have legislation pending on this issue. https://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/dream-act/map-states-state-tuition-laws.html
More than one person has benefited from this program and are now tax-paying citizens. BTW, was anyone aware that during that debate Perry was in pain from a back surgery for a herniated disk, and on pain killers? The obvious look of pain on his face, his obvious bad posture, and the pale look on his face speaks of the pain he was in. Not the best time to try to making comments. Get over it.
4. In 1989, Gore was running on a conservative platform……..I remember. After 1989, when Gore went left, Perry left him and went right. In early days in Texas, Democrats were more conservative than the Republicans of the day and that’s the conservative family values this man grew up with. He was always/still a conservative.
5. Approving Hillary care: So bite me. “As Agriculture Commissioner he was concerned that rural Americans would be overlooked and their options be limited.Working with the administration regardless of party, working with members of the other party, as long as you don’t violate your principles, is important to getting things done.
As a result, he praised Hillary’s efforts in trying to tackle the issue and urged her not to overlook rural Americans. The letter was at the onset of her efforts before she proposed anything. No one could have imagined the horrible monstrosity she cooked up, in fact not to be outdone until ObamaCare years later.
6. TransCoridor Hwy: Another dead issue. An effort to improve the transportation in Texas which was gaining about 1,200 people every day and Perry’s defense was that as Texas continues to grow, the state’s infrastructure must be improved to accommodate the growth. Examples: Chicago Skyway, the South Bay Expressway in California. He backed off when people didn’t approve (unlike the idiot in the WH). He passed EO’s that made sure it wouldn’t happen. Another dead issue.
7. Sanctuary cities. Are you kidding me? He introduced legislation, which was tabled by the legislature, to outlaw sanctuary cities. And, is soundly hated for his stance on this issue. Flat out lie. http://www.ontheissues.org/governor/Rick_Perry_Immigration.htm
avafromtexas commented:
#65
i’m not from Texas, and i have no clue, ergo, would
you please articulate Perry’s stance on the border..
Here ya go.
In the final analysis, Governor Perry says that the nation cannot have effective immigration policy until the border is secure. Today, the border is not secure and this is where we need to focus our resources.
Here’s a link to On The Issues which has more references to Perry’s statements on immigration-related subjects (too many to include here):http://www.ontheissues.org/governor/Rick_Perry_Immigration.htm
Gary commented:
Craig, Bob Z
For once I have to agree completely with Craig.
Perry waited a long time on that apology to see the numbers first. Then he decided to apologize.
As for Reagan, no comparison.
Reagan was a Democrat in the 1950s, and he backed Eisenhower both times, as a Democrat. Truly he was already a Republican who just hadn’t switched parties.
Perry changed parties just a year after supporting Gore for president.
He also praised the Hillary Care effort around or after switching parties.
Can you find any evidence that he backed any Republican candidate before switching parties?
That would be the big difference.
One switched parties because it was the right move.
The other switched parties for the same reason he apologized, because the polls told him to.
Gary commented:
Retire05
You’re applying that same faulty logic you tried out last time.
No person who is in this country illegally should be given better treatment by one U.S. state than the treatment given to legal U.S. citizens from other states.
Unless Texas wants to drop in-state and out-of-state tuition, it should not be giving in-state rates to people who come here illegally frrom an entirely different country while charging out-of-state rates to people who are here legally and merely from a different state.
Why is that so hard for you to grasp?
avafromtexas commented:
#91
Rock, I’ve just read through these comments. Just not seeing your point…..The major insults are the ones bashing WCA and retire 05. Comments like ” sweep in like a goon squad” aren’t a good example of polite discourse, would you say?
Are you proposing that Perry supporters just sit by mutely as they see incorrect facts being presented, and some just outright lies with no substance being presented, without replying?
I’ve read some pretty darn inflammatory remarks being made and it wasn’t by the two guys I mentioned.
As a newcomer: I’m forced to say: Kettle. Pot. Black.
Gary commented:
Retire05 #33
I agree with you on this point, with the only difference being, eventually the neighbor’s kids go home. In a more realistic scenario, the neighbor’s kids now get out of the pool and go in the kitchen and get themselves a meal. Then they get a stomach ache and demand you take them to the hospital, and pay the bill. And then they bring three more kids with them to go swimming the next day.
avafromtexas commented:
#100
Have you read my response in #98 to the issue with Perry and his remarks, back surgery, etc.? And, his political views? But, as with Perry, I’ve always been a conservative.
I used to be a Democrat, too, until THEY left me.
I watched in horror as Gore switched from right to left back in 1989 or so. I couldn’t believe my eyes, and wondered what type of insanity had taken over.
RedBeard commented:
1. Perry apologized for using the word, not for his wrong-headed imiigration agenda. Weak apology, and not substantive.
2. Whether it’s “free” tuition or simply in-state rates, illegals and their children have no right to the benefit. Period.
3. Perry is wrong to oppose the Arizona law. It should be embraced.
4. Fences do work, combined with adequate manpower and technology, so Perry’s half-hearted support for border security is troubling.
And finally:
5. Perry would be far better than Obama on the illegal immigration situation, and on every other issue, including the color of the wallpaper in the Oval Office crapper. This is just reality, and we dare not lose sight of it. If Perry winds up being the nominee, he will have my support, despite his warts.
retire05 commented:
Red Beard,
#1, has Romney apologized that under a section of Romneycare, illegals get medical treatment (FREE)? Oh, yes, the do; under the Massachussets Health Care Safety Net program. Which do you think costs the state taxpayers more? Educating approx. 16,000 students whose parents are illegals that have to pay that tuition tab and are not eligible for student loans or grants or the 4% of the Massachussets population that are illegals who get free health care for everything from pre-natal care to cancer treatments?
Can you tell me what Michele Bachmann, as a state representative, or even a federal Congresswoman has done about illegal immigration either in her state or in the U.S. Congress? Can you point out to her legislation, passed or failed? How about Romney? Any of the others? Do you ever wonder why Santorum never mentions his own Senate bill dealing with the border while he bashes Perry? When did Santorum become a “build a fence along the entire border” kinda guy? Are you aware that Palin supported a path to citizenship for illegals?
#2, Texas is not the only state that has in-state tuition for the children of illegals (of which 77% were born here). Did you not notice that the phrase used by the ones beating up on Perry always say “the children of illegals” and never “illegal children”. Ever wonder why? And perhaps you should read this, as it is worth your time:
http://www.examiner.com/headlines-in-san-antonio/expendable-unaccountable-texas-children-now-recruited-by-mexican-drug-cartels
These are NOT the kids going to a state university in Texas. But it is what happens to many of them when they have no hope of success. Is that what you prefer?
#3, had you really informed yourself, you would know that Texas was the first state to join in the law suit with Arizona against Eric Holder’s corrupt DOJ. Four other states followed. Just as Texas joined with other states against Obamacare. So how would you have handled that situation? Enact legislation that would wind you up in court, or allow another state, Arizona and Alabama, to enact the legislation, knowing it will wind up in federal court, then back that state knowing if the court rules in their favor, your state can enact similar laws without being prosecuted by Eric Holder?
#4, An obstacle without observation is no obstacle. You can build a fence around the entire United States, but if you don’t have the manpower to observe those fences to detect when illegals enter, they will get in. Tunnels are currently the lastest problem for the Border Patrol. Some even have railroad tracks laid in them to facilitate the transportation of drugs, are lighted and have air conditioning. So obviously, the fences we already have, which has inadequate man power to guard them, simply slow the illegals down, it doesn’t stop them.
How much has Arizona, California and New Mexico spent of their own state funds to guard their borders with Mexico? Do they have their crack state police on that border? State drones in the air?
Talking points are great things. Those who have a favorite candidate can take them to slam another candidate. And uninformed voters accept those talking points as gospel. But a fact, a law, a policy, cannot be summerized in one 30 second sound bit.
Romney, and Cain, seem to the the front runners now. And although the goal is to win the elections for Republicans, and turn the nation deeper red, no one talks about how Massachussets turned deep blue under Romeny. Under Romney, according to the Boston Globe, Massachussets lost 31,000 registered Republican voters and gained 30,000 Democrat ones. Romeny nominated twice as many Democrats to state benches as he did Republicans (14/7). At the end of Romney’s one term, Massachussets had the fewer registered Republicans than it did at the end of the Civil War.
Under Perry, Texas has turned from purple to deep red. We now have Hispanics running, and winning, on the GOP ticket. One of them is a first generation American.
Is in-state tuition the sword we want to fall on, only to lose the battle? Do you think that 21.3 million Hispanic registered voters are going to view this argument as “pro-law?” Do you not understand that the Democrats have used immigration as a wedge between immigrants and Republicans? Why do you think there are huge enclaves of Irish and Italians in all major cities that still vote Democrat? You only have to look at the history of Boston. Rose Kennedy, JFK’s mother, came from one of those strong holds that locked up the Irish immigrant vote.
I don’t like Romneycare, don’t like that certain states have legalized same-sex marriage, don’t like the oppressive gun law restrictions that other states have, but those are issues that those states have to vote on. I don’t have to live under them. And those laws would prevent me from moving to any of those states. There is a reason that ALL states have constitutions. They deal with the issues that are outside the purview of the U.S. Constitution.
There were some on that debate stage that I could never vote for. But I don’t bash them personally, I do disagree with the way they have governed. And I really don’t care what they have to say, I want to examine their records. What they actually did, and why, before I form an opinion on their ability to govern from my viewpoints.
Ginger commented:
First of all…Perry will not make the poll. He is more of the same as we have now! Our country needs protected and a muslim lover is not a protector. Our country is being taken down by muslims and the muslim lovers are aiding and abetting the muslims! The socialist/Communist is on the back burner for Berry. Remember in his book he said: When the winds blow in the wrong direction I will support my muslim family. Well something like that. Does that not give you enough to …….WAKE UP AMERICA
Christie….UCK! More of the same! Muslim to his supreme court!??? Wonder how much he recieved under the table! Another traitor to ourt country!
MR. CAIN …. is our next president
Cain/Palin
or
Palin/Cain
TRUE AMERICAN PATROITS
retire05 commented:
Gary, in reality, the kids jump your fence, swim and one of them drowns. Their parents sue you for not providing greater barriers to your pool, and they win. Now, you have lost your pool, and the house that sits next to it because you have had to sell it to pay legal fees.
The debate about in-state tuition has been conflated to include ALL aspects of our immigration policy; legal immigration, illegal immigration and what the states should do with illegals the federal government refuses to deport, or prevent from entering our nation in the first place.
The bottom line: we would not even be having this discussion had the federal government done its job of protecting our borders, would we? And do you not find it odd that what to do with illegal immigrants was never a topic discussed by the other candidates until Rick Perry got in the race?
Sometimes I feel the American voter cannot see the forest for the tree that stands directly in front of them.
retire05 commented:
Ginger, take your talking points back to Alex Jones’ website.
bg commented:
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avafromtexas #99 September 29, 2011 at 6:13 am
albeit i was expecting something more like this..
guess that’s all i’m gong to get re:
the articulating of Perry stances..
at any rate, thanks..
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Ginger commented:
retire05..I mean Susanne… take your opinion and shove it up you big fat a$$. I have just as much right to be on this blog and give my opinion as sorry to say you do. Your repeated opinions are BORING…BORING…BORING Can you hear me now?
I do not know why you keep throwing up Alex Jones to me when I do not go to his web site. I only posted a link once that was put on enother blog I go to. btw…Your opinion of other web sites means nothing to me except you rbias! Your sling shot is empty! You seen to get kicked off of certain web sites that does not like your muslim killers. You are doing to this blog as you have to two others that I know of. btw…you get mentioned every once in a while. hehehehe
I strongly believe that you work for Soros as one of his newly organized project that has sit up in your state of Texas or are you really in OHIO?
bg commented:
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PERRY – HILLARY CARE
Rick Perry’s camp defends 1993 HillaryCare praise
more here & here & here..
[scroll threads for more, or not, your choice]
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Ginger commented:
Perry the muslim lover is falling in the polls!!! hehehehe
If you reelect me I will not run for president and will serve out my full term but little wifey told him to ^%#@!#%^&* What a pi$$ poor excuse to break a promise! The remarks I hear about Perry on other blogs especially from Texans is they will not vote for him. hehehe I know my family members will not!
bg commented:
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Plumbing the rest of the Perry record
more here..
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bg commented:
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Rick Perry Gets A Reality Check On Texas Jobs Creation
please note the DATES..
what’s going on with this farcical??
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retire05 commented:
Ginger, put down the crack pipe and back away from the computer.
BTW, my name is not Susanne. And if you want to continue to expose your lack of intelligence by posting here, be my guest.
Quick, ginger, I think there is a black helicopter hoovering over your house.
Ginger commented:
Is he saying he as the governor created state the jobs or is it the PRIVATE sector? hmmmm
Ginger commented:
Susanne you are one filthy mouth old hag. I bet your wife is a she!
Ginger commented:
Your efforts to “brain wash” is not working at this blog so why don’t you move on!
Perry is a has been so put on your burka and move on!
bg commented:
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PERRY – GARDASIL
The right and wrong way to talk about Gardasil
more here & here..
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daryl commented:
#63
bg commented:
“i’m not from Texas, and i have no clue”
Well I for one can certainly believe THAT, even without your “backup” links to prove it, and won’t hold either of those “facts” against you bg, if you give us a hint which “blue state” it is that you are from.
daryl commented:
# 97
Wild Thing commented:
“Perry would make a fantastic president.”
You bet he will!!
bg commented:
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retire05 #108 September 29, 2011 at 9:39 am
not if you followed the LAW to a T..
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daryl commented:
“[scroll threads for more, or not, your choice]”
No thanks. did once didn’t like what I found, so I clued in a couple of more commenters, they did the same and now we know better.
Be forewarned people.
Her links just link to more of the same as you see here.
bg commented:
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daryl #122 September 29, 2011 at 10:54 am
i attack Perry’s record, you attack me vs defending Perry’s
record, guess that sounds fair in your resist we much world..
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Gary commented:
Ginger, Retire05
Wow, that got nasty real quick. Must be some kind of history there.
Retire,
You’re right that the real fault lies with the federal gov’t not with the state of Texas. But that being said, does Perry think that we should then show favor to the illegals.
Suppose a squatter moves into your home while you’re away on vacation. He gets a letter mailed to the house with his name on it, and now the police won’t make him leave. Should you then say, this is the police’s fault for not kicking him out, and then turn around and give him your son’s room, and make your son sleep on the couch?
Hopefully I’ve reached you with this one. But just in case, the cops are the gov’t doing nothing about the problem, the squatter is the illegal immigrant imposing himself and soaking up benefits, your son is the American kid who being displaced by the immigrant (because yes each school only takes so many in-state slots each year so making illegals eligible for these slots does keep American kids out, even Texas kids. They don’t put more chairs in the classroom). And you are Perry here. So what do you do?
Ginger commented:
bg….Have you seen this? Sarah is running! Lots of good stuff on it. I meant to post it sooner.
Sarah’s schedule:
Oct 7th….. St. Louis
Oct 8th…..Linchburg VA
Oct 11th…South Korea
http://conservatives4palin.com/2011/09/gov-palin-to-discuss-leading-world-out-of-crisis-in-south-korea.html
Gary commented:
Ava from Texas
I’ve read your itemized explanations, and the word “apologist” comes to mind.
Perry did what he did. Brag about the good stuff, but own the bad stuff.
If he were sorry for calling us heartless when he is the one looking at the issue through moderate vote-colored glasses, then why did the apology take this long.
And if you doubt my reasoning, ask yourself this: If Perry’s poll numbered had soared after that comment, would we ever be hearing an apology? Be honest. He’s a finger-in-the-air politician. Switch views when necessary, switch parties when necessary.
And I still haven’t heard the name of the Republican he endorsed before switching parties.
So no more Reagan comparisons, mkay?
bg commented:
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PERRY – BORDER
Perry opposed Arizona’s tough anti-illegal immigration law SB 1070.
“I have concerns,” he explained, “with portions of the law passed in
Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas.”
more here & here & here..
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Ginger commented:
bg…Dr. Jasser was on Fox this morning with Father ..Dog gone it His name has slipped me.
I LOVE, LOVE both of them and I want to thank you for showing me that I can trust and believe in this man as a Muslim. He is a true leader.
Before all the trolls start bashing believe me Dr. Jasser is the only one right now that I would call a PATRIOT/Muslim
daryl commented:
No bg. You CLAIM I’ve attacked you.
I called attention to your screwy way of linking people in circles that more often than not just went back to more of your bs.
I call it informing people about what you’re doing, YOU call it my attacking you.
I’ll have to see which of the alinsky rules you invoked in your lies about me. And don’t deny it because intentionally or not that’s what you did. It’s just your lefty nature to do so. Next!
Ginger commented:
bg..129
Thank You! I have been looking for that because I knew when the trolls started backing Perry about backing Azronia on the SB 1070 was WRONG!
bg commented:
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Ginger #127 September 29, 2011 at 11:18 am
wow, she’s something else that lady..
and that something is exactly what “we the people”
need whether or not she’s our first lady president!!
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bg commented:
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daryl #131 September 29, 2011 at 11:26 am
confused we much??
rotflmbo @ your blatant self incomprehension..
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Ginger commented:
She’s in! Sarah is ready for the fight of her life! When you are ready to fight you pick your TIME and your PLACE and that is exactly what she is doing!
I can not wait for these liberal trolls here and around the states to blow their minds!!!!!!!
Her war chest will surpass the kenyan frauds. Big money holders are waiting!
bg…About South Korea…Barry has not been invited that I know of! hehehehehe
Ginger commented:
They attrack. we respond, they accuse us of starting it.
Alinsky Rules
They call us lefties???
daryl commented:
Sorry I confused you bg, but I’m glad you finally realised the fact that you ARE so confused.
Now maybe you can seek help for it. But don’t expect too much sympathy if you continue the way you have been. Thanks and good luck finding a cure.
daryl commented:
#136
“they attrack’?????
slipping again.
bg commented:
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Ginger #130 September 29, 2011 at 11:24 am
good for you!!
the man has been speaking out for year now..
anyways.. don’t have cable news, but i received an email informing me
of his appearance, and it hasn’t been posted as yet, but i will certainly
be keeping an eye out for it, thank you..
AIFD
Pundicity
AIFDtv’s Channel
Family Security Matters
more links @ links & scroll down for more..
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Ginger commented:
retire did you change your name to the male name daryl? Same tone ! Got to do better then that!
bg commented:
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PEERY – CHARTER SCHOOLS
Islamist Gülen Movement Runs U.S. Charter Schools
more here & here & here..
for those of you who can’t read or comprehend my posts, not to worry..
daryl the self comprehensive will be right along to explain what i’m doing
to you.. are ya ready??
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daryl commented:
Breaking News! Palin Announces 2012 Presidential Bid. It’s Official now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbOm2gOb3y8
daryl commented:
Herd mentality.
RC Round Up !Very Funny! – YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/embed/NA-ST8nXl4U?rel=0
daryl commented:
News from The Associated Press
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_WHY_THEY_TEASE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-09-28-20-20-20
Palin, the former Alaska governor who was the GOP vice-presidential nominee in 2008, was also pressed on her presidential ambitions Tuesday in an interview on Fox News. She said – again – she hadn’t made a decision but did indicate she had concerns about going forward.
“Is a title worth it? Does a title shackle a person?” Palin asked. “Are they – someone like me, maverick, you know, I do go rogue, and I call it like I see it, and I don’t mind stirring it up. … Is a title and is a campaign too shackling?”
retire05 commented:
ginger, “got to do better then that”
Tell us, is English your second language?
And no, I’m not anyone else and have been posting on this blog since 2005 as “retire05″.
Ask Jim Hoft if you don’t believe me.
But how many monikers do you and bg have?
retire05 commented:
daryl, maybe ginger and bg would like to address Palin’s association with Bhopal Cole, a Democrat bundler?
Ginger commented:
Retire/susanne/aka/ you have as many aka’s as the kenyan fraud has.
As for myself….What you read is what you get!!!!!! Ginger
As far as bg…well she is a big girl and can speak for herself but I have no problem with the name bg. Knowing bg she is to proper to answer your sorry a$$ remarks and scrolls on by!
daryl commented:
Don’t think they will touch it with a ten foot pole, retire05, but then,add their total iq and you would still be under 100, so all bets are off.
both of you ding-a-lings,
Does “Is a title and is a campaign too shackling” sound like Sarah Palin is planning on running?
She isn’t through milking her herd of adoring fans for every dollar she can (neo)con out of them.
If you “ladies” are truly coservative and want to get rid of obama, wise up, if not I guess you can keep on keepin’ on. Four more years won’t make any difference to you anyway.
bg commented:
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daryl #144 September 29, 2011 at 12:18 pm
LOL..
daryl et al suffer more anxiety pangs over whether Palin is running or
not than all of the Palinista’s in here (well, cept for maybe Ron)..
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bg commented:
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in case no one has figured it out yet..
the string a fallacious ad hominem tit for tats purpose is to bury
informative posts linked to facts.. 4 years ago it was “Craig the
birther” & Tom W., this time around it’as a;ll for one or one in all
against bg because “Craig the truther” is a non starter with me..
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daryl commented:
stand back retire05!!
I think she’s about to blow.
Sounds like at least two rods thrown and the timing chain might have sheared it’s key. I’m calling it a total loss on the insurance claim.
bg commented:
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ps re: #150 September 29, 2011 at 12:51 pm bg
also why they are constantly crying over my linking back to my posts that contain info they don’t want you to know.. ergo, focus on big bad old bg & what she does.. can they not see what a colossal joke they are??
it’s a free country, i trust people can make up their own minds…
unfortunately daryl, retire05, workingclass artist, et al cannot understand
how pathetic they come across trying to make others minds up for them..
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bg commented:
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Ginger #132 September 29, 2011 at 11:29 am
welcome..
[btw, they're cracking me up..
]
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bg commented:
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anti-Palin Conservatives, hmmmm
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Ginger commented:
They sure are a bunch of liberal woosies! I make so many typo errors laughing while I type that it slows me down. Do the liberal trolls really think we don’t know what they are? Like I said they need to move on and try to find some other patroit web site to try and brain wash them to their liberal/socialist agenda. Republican/conservatives THEY are not!
move on…that rhymes with move on. org the jewish hater pr!(K web site. I hope soros gave you peeons a nice office to work out of!
btw…Watch your back because the Lord is watching you TRAITORS!
Ginger commented:
I forgot…I know what one of the liberal/communist looks like and she is one ugly hag with several names!
bg commented:
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Ginger #156 September 29, 2011 at 1:21 pm
i’m sorry, but i don’t play their Alinsky games, also sad
to see how much you enjoy playing it with them..
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Ginger commented:
bg…I know
I guess that I am letting my anger control me instead of me controlling my anger and just a built up of several years of their kind! Scum of the earth.
Any way I have had my fun and off I go to do something more constructive. Cheers!
daryl commented:
“btw, they’re cracking me up..”
wasn’t me or any of us. you’ve been cracked up as long as I’ve posted here. I didn’t care how nutty you were until you started with your Perry vendetta.
Only reason I haven’t let you have both barrels is because you occasionally speak well of W.
Rick Perry isn’t like W but he’s the only Texan we have in the hunt right now, and by damned he’s as qualified as any running with the exceptian of Newt ( and if there’s anything right in the world Newt will have a place with whomever beats obama..
Cheerlead all you want for Palin (for all the good it will do you) but stop with the cheesy, repetitive linking to the same old crap over and over, your rotflmbo put downs, your ergo, and et al usage. They certainly don’t cover the rest of the ignorance or make anyone more apt to fall for your click, scroll, here, here, and much more here bs from bg.
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Ginger #158 September 29, 2011 at 1:29 pm
no problemo, can’t says i blame you either..
btw, you are going to love this!!
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Rock commented:
bg, Ginger,
As I hinted at last night, and as today as demonstrated, we have indeed been infected by some progressives trolls disguised as Perry backers. I see no need to feed their ego’s they are here not to discuss the Conservative view point but to undermine and ridicule. Their attempts to deny their true agenda is nothing more than laughable. Their lack of awareness of who are regular Gateway user, and who have earned respect here is the test of their awareness of the user here.
#3, Amen, will do GP—
“A friend in need is a friend indeed” by Ginger
last night clearly ID’s regular user vs not so much.
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Rock #161 September 29, 2011 at 2:06 pm
thank you Rock, much appreciated..
and thank you for you consistently living up to your id as well..
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retire05 commented:
Rock, I can assume that part of your critique was aimed at me. Now, since you seem to think you are one of the “regular Gateway users”, since I have been here for almost seven years, perhaps you can tell me what I was doing five years ago, having spoken on it multiple times, and unlike others that you pander to, have never changed my moniker.
And interesting thread would be for Jim to post how long people have been here. And how many times they have changed their moniker (since that can be tracked easily).
Rock commented:
bg#162
More than welcomed.
PS I should have said not only regular users, but Conservative as well.
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Rock #164 September 29, 2011 at 3:02 pm
true, albeit i can’t say i’m as conservative as most..
however, as long as i keep my head and heart steered towards finding
truths (irrespective of where the cookie crumbles so to speak), seems
i automatically go in that direction..
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bg commented:
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Ginger & Rock et al..
btw, sounds as if (via Rush anyways) the Bushies are imploding since their
global guy Perry burnt himself, and are begging Christie to enter (even if it
would kill him), never heard of such a thing.. but then again, Barbara doth
hateth Lady Sarah with a passion, and daddy Bush is so afraid she’ll run &
muck up the NWO like sonny (although they more or less included him in on
the support Christie deal, pooe guy, clowns to left, jokers to the right, and
all that stuff) did by going into Iraq.. aah, there they go again..
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bg commented:
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gah, almost forgot again..
Happy Rosh Hashana to those
who celebrating the Holiday..
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workingclass artist commented:
@bg THE SOCKPUPPET
“i’m not from Texas, and i have no clue, ergo, would
you please articulate Perry’s stance on the border..”
ehemmmm….You have claimed to reside in Texas on previous threads as you bash Perry.
F A I L
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workingclass artist #168 September 29, 2011 at 4:58 pm
F A I L link please..
don’t have one??
oh what a shame..
L I A R
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Rock commented:
bg,
What I find humorous, that there are a few here who seem to think I’m obligated to accept Perry’s apologies. For now I don’t thing so, maybe down the road as more is understood about all the candidates that is a possibility. For now I will be forced to judge a candidate by the actions of those who flock to his or her defense and their attacks on things I believe true through experience. Trying to win me over by insults is not the most effective way, but does seemed favored by Liberals who I have no use for.
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workingclass artist #168 September 29, 2011 at 4:58 pm
listen up genius, i was mocking you & yours..
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retire05 #163 September 29, 2011 at 2:29 pm
7 years huh..
bet it’ll take longer for you to answer my questions.. /s/
oh yeah, hows Tom W. or Hyperjean sound for starters sound??
btw.. that was a rhetorical question, ergo, not
that you would, but you don’t have to answer..
besides, i really don’t give a flying bats guano who or what you are,
never mind where you came from, it’s your words that count, and in
your case, not for much..
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Rock #170 September 29, 2011 at 5:14 pm
oh i could tell right off the bat, the lib msm et al favor Perry..
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Rock #170 September 29, 2011 at 5:14 pm
got a real kick out of this, and i never ever watch RM, couldn’t even if i
wanted to, i don’t have cable news.. just happened to google something
& it popped up, i watched & listened & laughed, then posted it, but alas..
i digress..
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bg commented:
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re: #174 September 29, 2011 at 5:34 pm bg
Rick Perry’s California connections
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Rock commented:
bg,
Somehow, I don’t think that’s fish I smell, but it does have a bad aroma. Why do I think its just going to get worst for Perry. But then calling people heartless can come back and bite you on the arse. Funny I was glad when he threw his hat in the ring, things change.
Ginger commented:
RM…interviewing that man well I could not stand to watch to much but here is the part that is so funny.
This friend told me that Perry said: This field is so weak I can beat these guys. hahahahaha Little wifey is telling every one that hubby dearest will do better the next debate. How many chances does he get? Sorry Rick Bilderberg.
daryl commented:
Got some deep pocket friends, don’t he bg? It takes big bucks to run and win
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Ginger #130 September 29, 2011 at 11:24 am
here you go lady..
Iran set to execute Christian Minister for Apostasy
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Ginger commented:
bg….Thank You The more I read on Dr. Jasser’s blog and hear him talk gives me so much RESPECT for him and his courage.
He did a fine job when he went before congress too!
What is happening to the Christian in Iran is what they are trying to do to us. Ain’t gonna happen!
btw…Did I hear you just sneeze? God Bless You!
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Rock #176 September 29, 2011 at 6:01 pm
one chooses, for whatever reasons, to believe
or disbelieve whichever candidate they choose..
as for me, i know, even if for nothing else, that i
will never favor Perry due to the fact that he is a
LIAR.. and not to toss more mud on him, but that’s
exactly what his supporters in here have exhibited
have been thus far as well.. what’s that saying, it
takes one to know one, eh, birds of a feather also
works..
btw, imho, this says it all.. please note the dates, isn’t that the
lie on Perry busted out of the gates with (so to speak)?? gah!!
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Ginger #180 September 29, 2011 at 7:10 pm
God bless you too..
God bless US one & all..
Amen..
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Ginger commented:
bg…I spent a lot of time watching all of those evil rich sob’s bilderbergs! Years and years ago there was a group of men in each town that over saw injustice in their community. Example: When a man was not doing his family right the group of men would leave a stick laying on his porch and if that man chose to ignore the stick warning he had company and the men made a believer of that man.
I sure wish that we still had that type of justice now because the Bilderberg people would be dealt with in these times!
I would hope the punishment would be much harsher though.
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Ginger #183 September 29, 2011 at 8:01 pm
or perhaps the guys with the sticks were bb”s..
re: “Bless You”
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Ginger commented:
I forgot you do not have cable…Fox has been talking about it all day.
Bless You
That teacher is nuts he said it meant demons coming out! I never heard of that.
Lets see…pepper makes me sneeze and allergies.
How much you want to bet that the teacher is a non believer?
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Ginger #185 September 29, 2011 at 8:43 pm
typical bass ackwards progressive..
even if it did mean that (less demons), then all
the more reason for the child to be blessed..
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