Obama Wants Americans to “Pay Their Fair Share” Except For the 47% Who Pay No Taxes (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Monday, September 19, 2011, 8:16 PM
Barack Obama demanded that Americans to “pay their fair share” today during his class warfare speech.
Nearly half of Americans pay no taxes.
The AP reported:
Tax Day is a dreaded deadline for millions, but for nearly half of U.S. households it’s simply somebody else’s problem.
About 47 percent will pay no federal income taxes at all for 2009. Either their incomes were too low, or they qualified for enough credits, deductions and exemptions to eliminate their liability. That’s according to projections by the Tax Policy Center, a Washington research organization.
Most people still are required to file returns by the April 15 deadline. The penalty for skipping it is limited to the amount of taxes owed, but it’s still almost always better to file: That’s the only way to get a refund of all the income taxes withheld by employers.
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Ladue Pundit commented:
Try working in a tax office and you will be sick. Many people not only avoid taxes but are getting hefty refunds thanks to “welfare reform.”
sifty commented:
It doesn’t matter if 47% pay no taxes. Only that the right people are punished enough to make the 47% feel better.
Social Revenge, Not Social Justice is what Obama is pushing.
K~Bob commented:
Oh SCOAMFOTUS, please don’t load us
up with taxes so.
We do not like you, you can quote us.
In 2012 you go.
KLD commented:
Somewhere there’s a catch, and a waiver, in the rhetoric. Obama, Pelosi, Buffett, Kaiser can’t really want to pay more taxes. Somehow or other there is probably a loophole in the definition of ‘income’ that they will make sure they reside in to be exempt.
Espresso Logic - The 6th Sense commented:
I’ve been trying to find a bigger azzwipe than Obunghole.
I got nuttin’.
Patty commented:
I don’t like letting the cat out of the bag but here we have given our share and we still are. We have given so much of our share that when Washington has repeatedly said more times then I can count, WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE DEBT AND AMERICANS NEED JOBS, it means nothing. We have given our share, Washington hasn’t theirs.
This has been going on for nearly 3 years and I don’t believe for one minute a d— thing will be done until after the elections, providing a NEW president is in office.
WHILE AMERICA WAITS:
unemployment soars
more stimulus is shot to h…
more homeless walk the streets
more kids are hungry and parents divorce
more businesses close
less and less money in our pockets
While our president campaigns, exudes hate, hasn’t a clue how to listen to America or for that matter cares. And vacations, golfs, lives a great life and the rest of us are waiting and waiting for those who have, tell Americans more of the same. You couldn’t believe this is America, LAND OF THE LOST AND MORE OF THE SAME.
WHILE AMERICA WAITS.
Remco Kimber commented:
Of course the left wants more for government. I on the other hand want government to have less.
So here’s my solution. Rather than see Buffet pay taxes at his secretary’s level to achieve a so-called parity lets see the secretary pay at Buffet’s rate.
Cee commented:
This is why I favor a consumption (national sales) tax. Many who pay no tax have or do things I consider to be luxuries.
Patty commented:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b885IbyEGFk&feature=player_embedded
Must see, MO TV
Craig commented:
There is no such thing as people who don’t pay taxes.
Everytime you buy something, you pay taxes.
Everybody pays taxes.
Even the illegals immigrants pay taxes.
Patty commented:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b885IbyEGFk
HERE IT IS AGAIN IF YOU COULDN’T SEE IT ON MY FIRST POST.
Mahdi Al-Dajjal commented:
Not only do those 47% pay no Federal income tax at all, they GET A FEDERAL INCOME TAX REFUND CHECK for several thousand dollars under the Dem’s so-called “Earned Income Tax Credit”. Starting to get the picture now?
Opaobie commented:
Hypocrites like Buffett and Geitner and Rangle and … (no need to list them all and use up all the bandwidth) … might start by paying the billions in back taxes they already owe.
DANEgerus commented:
Takers.v.Makers
malclave commented:
You load 16 tones, and what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.
St. Peter, don’t you call me, ’cause I can’t go,
I owe my soul to the government store.
MariaA commented:
I think its time that those of us that do pay taxes say: “Yes, EVERYBODY should be pay their fair share!”. I don’t care if its $5 a year, everybody should pay something, so when they hear “taxes are going up”, their ears perk up .
lol commented:
whenver zero starts his class warfare and whining about social justice and everyone has to put some skin in the game boener and the republicans have to counter that with your right let’s get the 47% that don’t pay anything to start. limit welfare benefits to 4 years.
big L commented:
THE Ceo of Darden is a black guy and he is of course a donor to Obama ’08 campaign. so what if he is black and a donor. But he is a pal I bet. Corp of Darden also gave $2300.
This food police thing is not a happenstance viz REd Lob and Olive tree.
Obamas regulation destroy jobs commented:
This is pure insanity. He just keeps getting worse and worse. When I heard he was running for office I thought omg its another mayor Barry (DC) but he is running the country??!! Are people nuts? His wife spends like a drunken sailor 10M. He is pushing this like the obamacare–he just wants more & more money to give to his special acorn programs–free money off the tax payers. If he raises taxes we have no money to spend,,and he raises all the prices of food…everything around us is being doubled!!! And the super rich already pay 70%–geez! They will raise their prices or not hire!!! This is so horrible this is a real nightmare!!!
big L commented:
Waiver- Darden of ORlando got a waiver for 34,000 of enrollees in its health plan.
gus commented:
It doesn’t matter who the KENYAN MUTHERFVCKER wants to pay more.
HE WANTS MORE MONEY TO SPEND.
NO, is the answer.
Aggie 95 commented:
its worse than ya’ll thought
51% of Americans Pay No Federal Income Taxes
By Derek Thompson
May 4 2011, 9:05 AM ET Comment
Half of American tax payers owe no federal income tax, and most of those filers actually net tax benefits from federal income taxes, according to analysis from the Joint Committee on Taxation in a letter to the Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee.
Patty commented:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/peter-schiff-obamanomics-there-are-not-enough-open-minds-capitol-keep-ship-sinking?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate
We all need to read this.
Patty commented:
“I don’t think those few open minds in the Capitol are going to be enough to keep this ship from sinking. There just isn’t enough time or a strong enough will for reform from the American people. That is why it is so important for you to act individually to protect yourself and your family from the new age of stagflation. Please take the time to view my testimony, understand the problems we face, and align your investments accordingly.” We urge anyone who has not watched Peter’s testimony yet to do so below.
From Peter Schiff:
Dear Friends and Supporters,
As many of you know, last week I was invited to Washington to testify in front of the House of Representatives Subcommittee on Government Reform and Stimulus Oversight. For that, we can thank Subcommittee Chairman Jim Jordan (R-OH).
The subject of the hearing was job creation in the United States – specifically, what the government can and can’t do to boost employment. While many people have asked me in the last few days why I even bothered to participate, I think it was a valuable experience. I don’t expect that anything I said will make an immediate impact on policy, but at least some of my opinions got a fair hearing in the halls of power.
After the testimony, I did have a few one-on-one meetings with open-minded Congressmen from both sides of the aisle. Maybe they were just being polite, but they had no obligation to talk to me, or even invite me, in the first place. So, I thank them for the opportunity.
Still, I don’t think those few open minds in the Capitol are going to be enough to keep this ship from sinking. There just isn’t enough time or a strong enough will for reform from the American people.
That is why it is so important for you to act individually to protect yourself and your family from the new age of stagflation. Please take the time to view my testimony, understand the problems we face, and align your investments accordingly.
video follows
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/peter-schiff-obamanomics-there-are-not-enough-open-minds-capitol-keep-ship-sinking?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate
gus commented:
Clearly Craig is retarded. Only a simp idiot would try the old SALES TAX dodge.
Craig, you’re pathetic.
dgr20001 commented:
I live in a small town and all the people that are on welfare and pay very little or nothing for income tax got back almost $10,000.00! I personally feel that no one should get back more than what they pay in!
Patty commented:
http://toddkinsey.com/blog/2011/09/19/president-obama%E2%80%99s-tax-plan-to-cost-an-additional-333k-per-year-for-those-earning-more-than-200k/
read this.
What is amazing has anyone heard who it is Obama is getting these ideas from, are they economists or his is just his agenda for America. Truthfully, it is too late. Washington has wasted so much time on Stimulus that failed, recovery fail and Obama care is still out there…waiting waiting for the Supreme Court ruling.
Patty commented:
#26
That is insane and I would love for you to email someone on the right. Your congressman. That is insanity.
If true, tell Obama to start there. There and all the fraud, I wonder if he would, hehehehe!
BurmaShave commented:
Hey, Obama, did Solyndra get its fair share of tax booty?
Patty commented:
#22
So, Obama will keep the poor poor and the rich will keep on paying for the oppressed.
Disgusting but true. The reason the poor are poor and keep getting more of the poor is because this president had worked almost 2 years on Obamacare and never thought once that jobs and homes were being take away because of his friends Dodd and Frank and those to crooks would send their mothers down the river.
Jobs should have been his first priority but Obama doesn’t think logically.
Sparky commented:
No taxes and entitlements for everyone and everything……no wonder the US is in such poor fiscal shape.
JohnnyAmerica commented:
Continue to punish those who still have jobs like a good Marxist.
Squander the money on Solyndra, ACORN, Planned Parenthood, NPR, A new Constitution in Kenya, $6 billion to the U.N., the banks, the Unions, Green companies, etc. All we get is class warfare, commie-organizer -n-chief.
JeremyR commented:
Erm, the 47% that don’t pay taxes, don’t do so because they don’t, you know, have any money.
Obama’s class warfare against the rich is no excuse for Republicans to play class warfare against the poor. You won’t win by saying the poor needed to be taxed more.
They are already suffering the most, thanks to the dollar being worthless and food prices going up and up – most of their money goes towards the basics.
DaveinPhoenix commented:
Fair share ? I wrote out 2 checks to the State of Arizona and the Federal Government in March to the tune of $15,000 for taxes I “owed” on an inheritance from my late mother. My parents worked their asses off for their entire lives to earn what eventually was willed to me, they scrimped and saved, we did without the luxuries we all now consider necessities. I didn’t grow up in a rich house, my poor parents both worked their asses off for what they saved, put away. My father died at 55 – still working his ass off. My poor mother lived like a hermit in order to eventually will what they had saved to me and my sister. She died in late ’09 wearing freaking rags for Christ sake. My poor parents were already taxed on that money in a million different ways before they died and still managed to leave me and my sister what remained. And this creep of a “president” wants to tell me what my “fair share” is ?
I’ve worked my ass off all my life and never went more than 15 days without a job (once, in ’91 after re-locating to a different state). Never made more than 40k a year. And I’m the one writing out checks to the government ? While I go to work every day and watch these young people sitting around endlessly collecting checks from the government ? What the f*** is wrong with this picture ?
I got one thing to say to this creep in the White House and his little rich buddies in the Senate:
“And when they seek
to oppress you
And when they try
to destroy you,
Rise and Rise again
and again
Like The Phoenix
from the ashes
Until the Lambs
have become Lions
and the Rule of Darkness
is no more “
Molon Labe commented:
Does anyone belive the GOP has the balls to push a flat tax? They love a progressive tax system because it allows the rich to avoid taxes, and the same system doesn’t tax the poor. Just wait till inflation hits and makes everyone rich.
If you doubt it did you know almost everyone in Zimbabwe is a millionaire?
Highlander commented:
Nobody who has a vote in this country should be exempt from paying income tax. Even if it’s a small percentage, making all people pay a fair share of the cost of government and entitlements is the only way to keep the costs under control. As long as half the country pays no income tax, what’s to stop them from supporting the taxation-crazy politicians, who thrive on taxing the “rich” and doling it out to the “poor” in exchange for their votes?
Obama said it himself … EVERYONE must have skin in the game. Until that happens, we’re screwed.
Rachelle commented:
The one real achievement of Obama is that he is making racism respectable again.
jorgen commented:
It is very important that everybody pay something in income tax. That will make them much more interested in who they elect!
Ritchie The Riveter commented:
JeremyR … the problem with your position is that the 47% have NO direct feedback of the cost of government, and therefore have no real incentive to vote for leaders who are fiscally responsible.
… especially when you add the class-warfare rhetoric of the Dims to the mix, leading many of that 47% to believe that they DESERVE the earned-income credit and other breaks they get … and that using the tax code to give them “what they deserve” is the ONLY way they can get ahead.
This is why I support the Fair Tax ( http://www.fairtax.org ). The “pre-bate” provisions of the Fair Tax provide a degree of progressive taxation (a person at the poverty line effectively pays ZERO Federal tax under the Fair Tax), while assuring that EVERYONE perceives the cost of government, every time they buy something.
Another aspect of the Fair Tax provides another measure of progressivity that I would think the class-conscious Left would support, if they were honest about their motives … when the rich guy buys his new Mercedes, he pays more in tax than when I buy a new Chevy … and when anyone buys used instead of new, they pay ZERO taxes for the purchase, under the Fair Tax.
But what the Leftists give up under the Fair Tax, is the ability to use the Tax Code as a carrot-and-stick to compel support for their socio-economic agenda and value judgments … so that just won’t do, for them; preserving the ability to jam their socio-economic morality down our throats trumps making our tax system simpler and more fair for all.
Ritchie The Riveter commented:
Rachelle … he is not making racism respectable. Not at all.
He is only giving racists more excuses for their bigotry through his foolishness.
However he is exposing the Progressives as Regressives for the nation to see … and that is good, for the truth will set us free.
Craig commented:
“Clearly Craig is retarded” Gus (25)
I think you have this backward. When you will know everything I know, you will be ashame of being so ignorant. Good luck! You have a long way to go to reach my education and knowledge.
Craig commented:
You people are so ignorant. Income taxes are unconstitutional. Ron Paul wants to abolish the IRS.
Person of Choler commented:
I’d like to see Warren Buffett pay more taxes. Probably a lot more than Warren wants to. Simply tax the money he socks away in his tax sheltered foundation as regular income at the same rate his secretary pays.
His foundation (and that of Bill Gates, Koch Brothers, MacArthurs and the rest of them) is based on the assumption that they know better how to spend their excess cash than the government does. This does not seem in line with Progressive Thought, so let the taxation begin.
scot commented:
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you
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Some Guy commented:
Don’t forget that anyone who’s working at all in the USA is losing 10.4% of what they earn to the Social Security ponzi scheme, unless they’re getting paid under the table. They’re also losing about 20 to 30% of what they spend to various federal, state and local taxes.
The problem is how much the government spends, not who they’re stealing it from.
egoist commented:
We have all of this welfare b/c most of us want all of this welfare! Most of us (not me) hold to the idea that “there ought to be a safety net” which is supported by “we are our brother’s keeper”. That idea much change in peoples minds before any progress will be made.
LadyLiberty1885 commented:
Our Progressive Tax is clearly not Progressive enough for Dear Leader.
“One important reason why the bottom 50 percent doesn’t pay much income tax is because lawmakers have decided to pay for social programs though the tax code and most of these people are either relatively poor or really poor.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/277652/progressive-income-tax-veronique-de-rugy#
ohiochili commented:
Craig
Your claims of vastly superior knowledge and experience than the rest of us poor slobs underwhelms us. Bragging is a sign of feelings of inferiority.
He is the same old sausage, fizzing and sputtering in his own grease. — Henry James
Limousine Barry commented:
American’s have to pay their fair share of taxes. No, I don’t really pay any taxes. I get my check from the Treasury.
My record speaks for itself. Sure, I suck but and can lie also. In fact, I can lie and suck both at the same time. It’s a skill that I have acquired over time. I suck so bad that I have to lie. Then I lie because I suck! It’s Math!
My limousine is running and Barney Frank is in back. We will probe deeply to find the answer. Change and Hope! Grab your ankles and bend over. You are screwed. Good day!
Gary commented:
Gus et al.
Let us not forget that Craig is a Canadian who is so sad to be in a weak and pathetic British Queen mother worshipping country where 90% of the citizens live within 100 miles of the US border that he has to participate in our legal discussions.
But of course, we have to be charitable and educate him so he doesn’t sound completely ridiculous.
Craig, when you buy something in the U.S., that is a state sales tax. What Obama and the rest are talking about is the federal tax. We pay both, and one has nothing to do with the other. The IRS has no jurisdiction over state taxes, and each state sets its own sales tax rates.
Now as to how else Americans are taxed:
First they take the 15+% from our paychecks in the form of federal tax.
Then they take another 7.65% for Social Security, and a few more percent for various other taxes.
Then the state where we live takes a % based of what is taxable after the federal tax (they don’t double dip here so to speak).
But then, as you pointed out, when we buy something, we are paying with federally and state taxed dollars that are then diminished another 5 to 15% (depending on where you live) via a “double dip” state tax.
Then with what we have left, we invest it in the stock market.
When that investment makes money, we are taxed in a triple dip for “capital gains”.
Now if Obama has his way, when we finally die, whatever we had left that wasn’t consumed by recursive taxing will be taxed as much as 50% in an estate tax, or “death tax” so that we can’t pass the wealth on to our children.
I’m simplifying this for you, but that’s the gist of it. People who make more than 50,000 a year a paying a lot of taxes, and it increases as you go up with our progressive tax system.
People who don’t work, or who have very low incomes and/or high deductions (like multiple children) will be able to claim an “Earned Income Tax Credit”. This often results in a tax “refund” that exceeds the amount of taxes paid in. For example, a person with three children my have a 5000 dollar tax credit, but only have paid in 1000 dollars in taxes.
So applying the credit, this person will get a 4000 dollar check. It is money they didn’t earn that was taxed off somebody else who did earn it, and this person will still claim to be a “taxpayer”. When you add up what people pay in and subtract what they get back, 47% are paying nothing or getting a refund. That’s the gripe.
Side note, I think the reason Buffet moved his wealth into the Gates foundation was to avoid the death tax.
Scott commented:
More dorm room politics from President downgrade…He’s thrown more trillions around than anyone in history and he wants more…Tax 100 percent of business profits and individual savings and you still can’t pay for the promises made by the 536 idiots in Washington. Obama’s profligate spending has already damaged every American with the loss of our AAA credit rating. It will ultimately lead to higher interest rates on government borrowing which will in turn costs us more in taxes…Obama know this, he just plans on being gone when the music stops…
Scott commented:
Where’s the special prosecuter for the Solyndra scandal…Prominent Republicans need to be asking this question everyday…At least a half billion dollars went down a rat=hole created by Obama donors…
Rdsesc commented:
Growing up I never dreamed one day that working 11+ hours a day would make me a target of political hacks. I pay taxes for myself and apparently a few more so I have to work more than 8 just to have a little something for my family. Now some empty shirt thinks I need to pay my fair share. What a joke, I have employees that I cannot get to show up for work on time,if they show up at all. If I ever get them to work a little overtime the next week they miss a day or two because they got a little ahead on their money.
I really do not plan to continue working myself to death to give the government more money to waste.
Militant Conservative commented:
#43 September 20, 2011 at 1:14 am
Craig commented:
education and knowlege is different than wisdom and experience.
I’ll take the latter you keep the former. Obama has the former, how’s that working out?
Ronulains, pathetic excuse for patriots.
PS commented:
I am a high school teacher in a major urban school district. The vast majority of my students come into my class under the impression that income tax is when the government writes you a check every year. Many of them don’t believe me when they are informed that I must actually *pay* money to the government.
What more really needs to be said?
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Landru commented:
Per the IRS, the total amount paid out in “refundable tax credits” in 2009 was 109 billion. So the 47% paying no tax are netting/collecting 109 billion, which offsets, partially or fully, any FICA they are paying. They are not paying anything to speak of. As to the leftist mantra that they are all poor? Completely absurd. A family of 4 making 50-60k a year falls into this group. A family of 4 netting 4000/month is poor? That’s a joke. Netting 3000 month is not poor. And that is the income level AFTER insurance, since the contribution you make is deducted from your total income for tax reporting purposes (as are 401k). So you’re really talking about households of 4 making upwards of 70k/year.
RickZ commented:
# 48 September 20, 2011 at 5:19 am
egoist commented:
We have all of this welfare b/c most of us want all of this welfare! Most of us (not me) hold to the idea that “there ought to be a safety net” which is supported by “we are our brother’s keeper”. That idea much change in peoples minds before any progress will be made.
———-
Well, there is a big difference between a safety net and a career choice.
falling commented:
No matter how high Obama raises the income tax rates for the rich, Buffet will still be paying a lower rate than his secretary! The fact is, Buffet takes only one dollar in salary from his company. All of his income comes from returns on his investments which are called capital gains! His secretary is paying income on her salary! The reason investment tax rates are lower is so that people will take some of the money they are left AFTER TAXES from their salary and invest it so our economy will grow and they will have more when they retire! Unless Obama plans on raising the capital gains tax rate to that of the income tax rate, effectively raising taxes on every single American who has invested in a 401K or IRA, Buffet will NEVER pay more than his secretary!
Zachriel commented:
90% of American families share in the federal tax burden, with 75% of families paying more in payroll taxes than in income taxes.
9tgkjyt7tc68rdil commented:
Every time you buy something from a corporation you are helping to paying their federal income taxes. When a corporation determines the price of a product they have to set the price to cover expenses. Corporate taxes are an expense. Everything you buy costs more because the corporation has to pay taxes, everything would be less expensive if they didn’t.
The assertion that some people pay no federal income taxes is misleading.
henry commented:
How can “they” call it class warfare when “they” have no class….
The rich crying poor…
Isn’t that somehow an oxymoron ..
Kinda like abundant poverty ….
Question: Can the rich ever cry: “Poor me”….
The only class of the people the middle class is at war with is the middle class. They got us fighting each other, far more efficient.
At the upper levels there is no difference between the democrats or republicans, it is all a game to make the people think there is a choice, there is no choice, there is no difference, sans a revolution we are screwed.
henry commented:
And about $1,000,000,000,000.00 ( 1 trillion ) went down the rat hole called IRAQ….
henry commented:
And about $1,000,000,000,000.00 ( 1 trillion ) went down the rat hole called IRAQ….
PLUS countless lives….
Bush didn’t even take care of the soldiers…
Some are on food stamps…
Seems the majority on this site would agree with Bush
P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C …
How do you look at yourselves in the mirror ???