Team Obama: Perry Record a Carbon Copy of DC Republicans (Except He Created Half Jobs in US Since 2009)

It’s going to be very difficult for President Downgrade, the worst president since the Great Depression, to battle Governor Rick Perry (R-TX) on his record.


Between June 2006 and June 2011, only nine states plus Washington, DC added any net new non-farm jobs. Of those states over that period, Texas added 2.75 times more new jobs than the others combined. (Willisms)

So you’ll have to excuse democrats for having such a week response to the news today.
Team O says Governor Rick Perry is a carbon copy of DC Republicans.
The Hill reported:

Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s (R) record is a “carbon copy” of Washington Republicans, President Obama’s reelection campaign said of the newest candidate for the GOP presidential nomination.

The Obama campaign sought to lump Perry together with the Tea Party, and charged that his economic record as governor, about which he often brags, is not being what it seems.

“Governor Perry’s economic policies are a carbon copy of the economic policies of Washington Republicans,” said Ben LaBolt, the Obama campaign’s press secretary.

LaBolt pointed to Perry’s endorsement of the “Cut, Cap and Balance” approach to addressing the debt-ceiling that many of the other presidential candidates had backed. That plan passed the House, but failed to make its way through the Senate.

“That’s the same approach he took in Texas, where middle class families know his economic record is no miracle – it’s a tall tale,” LaBolt said. “Governor Perry allowed special interests to write their own rules, hired corporate lobbyists to oversee corporations, and cut funding for programs that would create opportunity for middle class families.”

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  • Mikey

    Dems and Zero are running scared. They got nothing. The whole campaign will be attack mode. They cannot run on his record. Perry 2012 – the anti-Obama.

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  • Bill Mitchell

    You can expect Team Obama to come out saying, “Oh boy, Perry, he is going to be so easy for us to beat…” But inside they are thinking, “Oh f***ing sh*t, Perry!”

    If Obama (the man who accomplished nothing) cxan beat Perry, he really is magic.

  • Dan

    During Sarah Palin’s governorship (December 2006 – July 2009)
    · Alaska ranked 2nd in the nation for job growth.
    · Alaska ranked 3rd in the nation for change in the unemployment rate relative to the national average.

    During Rick Perry’s governorship (December 2000 – May 2011)
    · Texas ranked 4th in the nation for job growth.
    · Texas ranked 23rd in the nation for change in the unemployment rate relative to the national average.

    The total numbers are skewed because some states have much larger populations.

    During Sarah Palin’s tenure as governor,
    • Alaska ranked 4th in the nation in GDP growth.
    • Alaska ranked 4th in the nation in per capita GDP growth.

    During Rick Perry’s tenure as governor,
    • Texas ranked 10th in the nation in GDP growth.
    • Texas ranked 27th in the nation in per capita GDP growth.

    During the fiscal years for which Sarah Palin exercised budgetary authority as Governor of Alaska (FY08 through FY10)
    • Debt outstanding increased 12.7%, or 4.2% per year
    • Per capita debt outstanding increased 7.4%, or 2.5% per year
    • Total liabilities decreased 34.6%, or 11.5% per year
    • Total liabilities per capita decreased 37.7%, or 12.6% per year

    During the fiscal years for which Rick Perry exercised budgetary authority as Governor of Texas (FY02 through FY10)
    • Debt outstanding increased 184.2%, or 20.5% per year
    • Per capita debt outstanding increased 140.4%, or 15.6% per year
    • Total liabilities increased 60.6%, or 6.7% per year
    • Total liabilities per capita increased 35.8%, or 4.0% per year

    She decreased liabilities. He increased them.

    http://pa4palin.blogspot.com/

  • Dan

    Obama will try to smear his opponent whoever it is. Obama is a disaster from top to bottom and he knows he can’t run on his record.

  • MaxTruth

    Perry didn’t create any jobs, but he and the Texas legislature had the sense to not burden businesses with unnecessary regulations and taxes.

  • Dr_Proboscis

    Watch the Obama cockroaches leave their trails on the newsroom floors.

    Grab a broom — it’s gonn’a get messy.

  • jim m

    The only jobs that count to the dems are government jobs. If you aren’t growing government jobs then you aren’t growing anything of import to them.

  • ar05075

    And what is Obowma’s record????

  • Vero

    The talking points is that Perry had nothing to do with all the job creation in Texas. OK, let’s let’s play their game – let’say the Perry didnt create one single job while in Texas, not single one – Job creation still went up as he did not get in the way of business after he was elected

    Now let’s play the same game with the same rules for ‘the won” when he came into office, there are now 1.9 Million Fewer Americans with Jobs Today Than When Obama Signed Stimulus.

    So when you go into the polling booth and it is between
    1) Rick Perry
    2) Barack Obama

    Who are you really going to pull the lever for. Just asking

  • bg

    ++

    not what

    [And then there’s the elephant in the room: Texas’ debt problem. In the
    2010 governor’s race, Democrat Bill White pointed out that Texas’ debt has
    doubled under Perry. Since 2001, according to the Star-Telegram’s Mitchell
    Schnurman, Texas’ debt has grown at a faster rate than that of the U.S.
    government. Perry assumed office in December 2000.
    ]

    it seems

    “We can change this country, but it requires
    our giving it to HIM and letting HIM guide US”

    no no no

    i do not want to live in a country where “religion rules the roost”..
    i believe we have way too many of those in the ME, not to mention
    our own version via the Farrakhans, Wrights, Jackson & Sharptons
    as is is.. 😛

    links & more @ links..

    ==

  • Aside from the disaster of Egobama as a president; Obama is a girly-man and Perry is a real man. No further consideration required.

  • Old Fan

    Welcome to Mr. Perry!

    Good luck to all in the Straw Poll.

    If Perry is a lot like Ryan, Boehner, Pence, Bachmann, etc., then he is going to do well, and many Americans are going to be thrilled to see someone like a DC Republican take the failed Obama’s place in the White House.

    Democrats are growing even more irrational and desperate. They have a disastrous record to run on, so they will try to demean all others to save themselves.

    Perry’s record is good, but TEXAS produced those jobs – and a lot of the Texas success is a product of GW Bush’s fine tenure/leadership for two successful terms. Perry inherited a very healthy situation in Texas, and did well not to screw it up. He is a quality candidate and definitely adds to the Race.

    GOP is looking good for 2012, and we have to do the job.

  • bg

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    re: #11

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  • bg

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    Nora #12

    oh,so it’s all about looks, ergo, the color of
    his skin don’t matter.. so glad to hear it!!

    intelligent reasoning on par with Obama
    voters, can’t beat that, no no no.. /sarc/

    ==

  • retire05

    #4, Dan, your figures are misleading. Even on the Palin website you linked, it show that Palin’s GDP to capita chart peaks at the beginning of 2008 and goes down rapidly until the lines end, mid-2008. That does’t take into consideration the major downturn in the economy in September/October, 2008.

    Perry’s lines go all the way through the end of 2010.

    The other charts do not give the year, only where they came from.

    I think they are misleading. I know the GDP to capital chart doesn’t reflect the recession.

  • bg

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    the MSM et al are “choosing who runs” against
    Obama bell is ringing way too loud, AGAIN!! :*(

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  • daryl

    bg
    Think maybe you would have grown tired of repeating that same link over and over. Anyone linking to it knows by now you’re linking your own comments from several threads back.

  • retire05

    Alaska: Debt to GDP – 22.949%
    Texas: Debt to GDP – 18.558%

    Alaska: Debt per capita (every man, woman and child) $14,515.
    Texas: Debt per capita (every man, woman and child) $8,389.

  • [email protected]

    In spite of Barck “Tutu” Obastard’s money, in spite of the commie slimestream media, in spite of George “Moriarty” Soros’s corruption, in spite of Eric Holder and his attempts to turn this country into another South Africa, and in spite of the mechanized corruption and fraud of the rat party, Rick Perry WILL be the next president of the United States. Why? The answer is simple: because he’s an AMERICAN and will put people back to work.

    Oh, the hue and cry from the left will be epic and the spin against Perry will be record-breakingly imaginative. Taken altogether, the money poured into defeating him will easily run into 10-digits. But, in the end, he has the record to bring REAL hope and REAL results to this country, and that trumps anything obastard has on the table.

  • bg
  • hermie

    Why compare Palin and Perry as if one was inferior to the other?

    What you have to point out was that BOTH Palin and Perry did better than Obama has, and they DIDN’T have the power and money that the Obama regime has.

    Obama and his thugs are the ones to beat, not for Republicans to beat each other over the heads. This is what th Dems did in 2008. They went after George W Bush, not each other. Every ‘debate’ was an attack on GWB.

    Yes there are deficiencies between GOP candidates, but ALWAYS get back to the fact that Obama has been a total failure and has damaged this country. He will do far more damage to future generations if he isn’t defeated.

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  • bg
  • daryl

    Shows improvement but still not very convincing to the average voter.
    GO Rick PERRY!
    And Rick, feel free to pick whichever one of the ladies you think will help most to put you over the top.

  • daryl

    meant to add:
    As your Vice-President.

  • [email protected]

    Perry-Rubio in ’12.
    Palin- Secty Energy
    West- Secty State
    Wynn- Secty Commerce
    Petraeus- NSA
    Bolton- Secty Defense
    Estrada- Attorney General
    Byrne- Secty Labor
    Bachman- Secty HHS
    Giuliani- Secty Homeland Sec.
    Christie- UN Amabassador 😉

  • Bill Mitchell

    Lol now team Obama is saying Perry had nothing to do with Texas’ success. Hmmm. Obama had nothing to do with America’s failure, the Democrats in Congress had nothing to do with the huge runup in the deficit.

    Is anyone else seeing a pattern here? Barack Obama is becoming the Han Solo of politics (“It’s not my fault!”)

  • Meg

    #27, I’d rather see Guiliani as Atty. General, since we should get rid of Homeland Security Dept.!

  • daryl

    #13 Old Fan
    Any relation to G. Fan who used to post comments at Rathergate.com?

  • Bill Mitchell

    Yep, Perry had something to do with the job creation in Texas:

    HE GOT THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY AND LET IT HAPPEN!

  • [email protected]

    #22 has it right.

  • bg

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    hermie #22

    Amen!!

    for some strange reason, Perry fans are out for blood.. *sigh*

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  • bg

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    daryl #25/26

    misogynist much?? 😀

    ==

  • [email protected]

    Meg at #29, I agree about getting rid of HS, but until we do, I’d rather see Rudy running it than anyone else.

    I don’t have a pick yet for Treasury. Any ideas? I want the most fiscally sound conservative libertarian with the most sound monetary policy in the country.

  • KOMTM

    Rubio would be good, but is he a natural born citizen? Were his parents born in the USA?

  • MamaGrizzly

    I agree with bg that a united front is WAY WAY better.

    Perception is really important. When the average voter sees the candidates sticking together a bit more, the focus is on Obama’s poor performance.

    Don’t let it become a “house divided.” Sparring is great, but don’t side with the Dems.

    If Perry is legit, then you gotta LOVE #27’s line-up. That would be absolutely fantastic.

    If not, then same line-up, except with Romney.

    And Obama sinks back into the slime from which he came.

  • jony101

    How many of those texas jobs went to illegals? just asking, texas is very friendly to the illegals, just like california.

  • chuck in st paul

    I wondered where this quote came from. I have seen chunks of it cut and pasted across blogs here and there by the concern trolls. Oh shock and surprise. It comes from the DNC/White House talking points
    ——————–
    “That’s the same approach he took in Texas, where middle class families know his economic record is no miracle – it’s a tall tale,” LaBolt said. “Governor Perry allowed special interests to write their own rules, hired corporate lobbyists to oversee corporations, and cut funding for programs that would create opportunity for middle class families.”

  • [email protected]

    bg @ #33, I’m a Perry fan and I’m not out for blood against any of the other candidates. They’re all good people and, except for Paul, would probably do okay in the job. The only one I don’t like at all is Romney. In fact, I detest him, but have said so since 2008 so it has nothing to do with Perry. Even at that, as much as I detest Romney, I’d still vote for him if I had to in a general election. But Perry will get the nomination, I’m certain of it, and he will be the next president.

  • daryl

    # 34
    No not much, bg.

  • chuck in st paul

    #35 August 13, 2011 at 4:23 pm – [email protected] commented:
    “I don’t have a pick yet for Treasury. Any ideas? I want the most fiscally sound conservative libertarian with the most sound monetary policy in the country.”

    I’ve got two bright granddaughters, ages 10 and 11 that I know can do better than Tax Cheat Timmy and “What me worry?” Bernanke.

  • workingclass artist

    @#4Dan

    Really Dan….The entire population of the state Alaska is less than the city of Austin, Tx.

    Let Perry have his morning announcement…and let the other candidates have their IA strawpoll.

    Perry 2012

  • workingclass artist

    @# Jony101

    38% of Texans are Hispanic and own 20% of Texas businesses that employ people and pay Taxes.

    1% of that is estimated to be illegal immigrants.

    Texas is not California.

    Texans want secure borders and consistent enforcement…all of us.

  • noislamocommie

    http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/005489.html

    Comprehensive Immigration Reform

  • workingclass artist

    NM Governor Martinez could be interesting on Team Perry…a conservative border governor, hispanic and a woman.

  • lizzy84

    I do not know much about Gov. Perry and wish him Godspeed.
    I do know Marx 2 means certain disaster for our country but am concerned about the ‘Anyone but oBama’ meme. I mean to vote for the best person to do the job, not just the ABO candidate.

    Perry vs. Obama–Texas vs. Nation
    link@ http://prairiepundit.blogspot.com/2011/08/perry-vs-obama-texas-vs-nation.html

    Vulnerabilities:
    link@:http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/08/12/2356907/texas-perry-to-enter-presidential.html

  • [email protected]

    For Chuck @42, with all due respect to you and your lovely, bright granddaughters, Lucy, my Jack Russell Terrorist, would do a better job than Timmy Taxcheat. And, Scooter, my Miniature Dachsund, has it all over Bernanke. 😉

  • [email protected]

    An excellent riposte @ 44.

    Good thought @ 46. I keep forgetting about Martinez. I looked into her positions and record during her campaign and I was impressed. Does anyone know how she’s doing? I’ve heard little or nothing about her since she got elected. It looks like she’s keeping a low profile while she’s getting her feet wet. Any news of her?

  • bg
  • bg

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    daryl #41

    “Resist We Much!”

    rotflmbo!!

    ==

  • noislamocommie

    Perry Speaks out Against AZ. Immigration Law:
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2763292/posts

  • bg

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    lizzy84

    same here, the very last thing we need is another
    “unvetted” holier than thou narcissistic president..

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  • bg

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    noislamocommie #52

    thanks, and here is a direct link..

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  • FurryGuy

    #10 August 13, 2011 at 3:15 pm
    Vero commented:

    It basically will boil down to whether the person wants to be self-sufficient, or suckle on the government’s teat.

  • bg

    ++

    local news:

    some 16,000 people voted in the straw poll, Bachmann
    tent line was long (and of course Perry wasn’t there)..

    dang, that’s not a heck of a lot of people in comparison to our 300
    million
    in the USA (not counting illegals), and that’s not a heck of a
    lot of people in c0mparison the the rest of teh world population.. 😉

    ooh, an American was kidnapped in Pakistan
    today (just as McCain landed in Islamabad)..

    ==

  • [email protected]

    MamaGrizzly @ 37, just reflect for a moment on what would happen to these labor union thugs with Byrne at Labor and Estrada at Justice. 🙂 You would see the words “RICO” and “Union” and “Exposed” or “Convicted” above the fold nearly every day in every major paper in the U.S. for 8 years, often along with some rat pol’s name. Unions would be eviscerated – no more of this BS we’ve seen in WI.

    Wages would rise because the economy would heat up with tax cuts and investment such that the demand for skilled, educated labor would increase exponentially. That would mean the education system would have to change, and the deadwood leftists would be out of a job. The education system would have to ‘retool” to meet the demands for educated, skilled labor. Flipping burgers would become jobs for nice kids again instead of anti-crime programs strong-armed by the left through their Communist PC tax incentive structure.

    Merit, performance and productivity would be the order of the day.

    And that’s just two positions, for starters. I could go through the rest of the line-up and expand at length as to what those appointments would mean to us as individuals, our families, and our entire country in terms of prosperity, order, values, world standing, security, respect, charity and civility.

  • bg

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    Vero #10

    *no one in here is going to vote for Obama..

    Dumbo the Elephant v Barry the IslaMarxist would win trunk down!!

    *[that i know of anyways]

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  • Redwine

    FYI on Perry and Sharia/CAIR
    HAMAS’ CAIR Netwk In Love With Rick Perry (& It’s Mutual)
    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/40924/hamas-cair-netwk-in-love-with-rick-perry/

  • [email protected]

    bg @ 53, a three-term governor from a huge state whose life is an open book is not quite the same thing as a 1/5 term senator of uncertain birth from a mid-size state known for corruption, with a hidden background except the foreign and communist influence in his upbringing.

    Apples and oranges.

    But I see people, including some here, are already on attack.

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  • [email protected]

    …..and I see the Romneybot smear machine is here, or else it’s the Paulpot idiots.

  • bg

    ++

    daryl #18

    well i would hope so daryl.. i mean, with all the ‘repetitive’ posts in here,
    it sure saves me a heck of a lot of time (not to mention stress on me old
    arthritic pointer fingers) rewriting & relinking all the info posted in them..

    hey, no one says you have to click on my links if
    you don’t want to.. so scoill away daryl.. scroll!!

    ==

  • bg

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    rathernot #60

    i don’t give a bats guano if he’s the second coming of Christ.. and he
    may be your next rock star, but i want to know everything there is to
    know about him politically (his private life & religious beliefs are his to
    keep to himself).. you certainly can make comparison excuses all you
    like, as far as my next PRESIDENT goes.. i’ll stick with “who is he and
    what is he all about”, HIMSELF, or US, thankyouverymuch..

    ==

  • bg
  • Ripped

    The debt of the state of Texas is out of control. According to usdebtclock.org, the debt to GDP ratio in Texas is 22.9% and the debt per citizen is $10,645. In California (a total financial basket case), the debt to GDP ratio is just 18.7% and the debt per citizen is only $9932. If Rick Perry runs for president these are numbers he will want to keep well hidden.

    Back in 1988, Rick Perry supported Al Gore for president. In fact, Rick Perry actually served as Al Gore’s campaign chairman in the state of Texas that year.

    Rick Perry attended the Bilderberg Group meetings in 2007. Associating himself with that organization should be a red flag for all American voters.

    Texas has the highest percentage of workers making minimum wage out of all 50 states.

    Rick Perry has a record that should make all Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians and Independents cringe.

    He is not the “conservative Republican” that he is trying to claim that he is. He is simply another in a long line of “Neo-Con’s”

    The truth is that another four years of Barack Obama would be a complete and total nightmare.

    But so would four years of Rick Perry.

    America deserves better than the “lesser of two evils”.

    Unfortunately, the American people have been dead asleep and have been sending incompetents, con men and charlatans to Washington D.C. for decades.

    Hopefully things will be different in 2012.

  • bg

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    noislamocommie #45

    who could have possibly guessed??

    /legal sarc/

    and why Bill Richardson, suddenly went under the radar..

    /natural born citizen sarc/

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  • [email protected]

    bg, you’re going to have two choices come Nov., ’12. obastard or a pub. Or you can stay home like a moron.

    As for info on Perry, you’re well behind the curve. Those of us who have been paying attention all along already know all this stuff because, AS I SAID, he’s three-term governor of a BIG state. We know he is a “jobs” governor because he gets the gov out of the way for industry. If you weren’t behind the curve, you’d already know all that, and you’d know that Perry’s pluses well outweigh the negatives.

    So, just because YOU are behind in looking at him, doesn’t mean the rest of us who keep up with this stuff are also behind.

    You said “…as far as my next president goes….”, which sounds like you voted for the gargoyle currently in the WH. No wonder you want to smear Perry.

    And, last but not least, lol, glad to see you ADMITTING that you’re ATTACKING PERRY in your post @ 65.

  • [email protected]

    Good job, Ripped. You didn’t miss one single Romney talking point. How does it feel to be a bi+ch for the creator of the second-worst health care plan in America, betrayer of the Boy Scouts, and flip-flopper on whether the unborn should live or die in the womb?

    Well done.

    You are driven by the same fear that the left has of Sarah Palin.

  • bg

    ++

    rathernot Alinsky #68/69

    “act of God”

    not so fast, i took Perry’s advise and looked it up..

    ROTFLMBO!!

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  • bg
  • bg

    ++

    rathernot Alinsky #68/69

    btw, i take that personal attack against me as an attempt to shut me
    up, good luck with that, because i know for a fact that God is going to
    beat you to the punch…

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    rathernot Alinsky #68

    re: [sounds like you voted for the gargoyle currently in the WH.]

    and you’re accusing me of being behind the curve??

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    re: [ADMITTING that you’re ATTACKING PERRY ]

    oh yes, and i will continue to attack facts related to
    Perry, or should i say delve into them with vigor??

    ==

  • retire05

    #66, Ripped, perhaps you are trying to mislead, or maybe you just can’t read, but your numbers are off:

    Texas Debt to GDP – 18.55%
    California Debt to GDP – 19.13%

    Texas Debt per capita – $8,389.
    California Debt per capita – $9,987

    [email protected], the trolls are out tonight, aren’t they? But fair warning, don’t ask bg a question. You will only get more links to his previous comments and he won’t dare answer any questions like someone who has reached voting age.

    But then, trolls can never get anything right.

  • [email protected]

    bg, I want you to do all you can to get obastard re-elected, which is just what you’re doing. That way, when he loses to Perry, I and many others can laugh our asses off at you and the other simultaneously useful and useless idiots.

    I’ve been posting here for a year or more, but more so starting just before the Nov. ’10 elections. Some of my posts were under the name “Scatatarian” and another name. But it doesn’t matter when I came here. The fact that you bring up my longevity here as some sort of pathetic challenge to the validity of what I say just reveals that I hit a nerve. 🙂

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  • retire05
  • J! O! B! S! With a side of burn the race card forever.

    Perry / Cain 2012.

    d(^_^)b
    http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
    “Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive”

  • [email protected]

    Thanks for the warning, retire.

    I never noticed bg being around here before, so I appreciate the warning. Maybe he has been around, and my sixth sense idiot radar was better tuned than it is at the moment so I just ignored him.

  • bg

    ++

    rathernot #75/76

    perhaps you don’t understand, i don’t give a bats guano what you think,
    what you think about me, or what you believe you can think for me.. i
    don’t know you, and as testament to your Alinsky tactics, i don’t care to..

    same goes for California..

    Perry is from Texas..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    lol, rathernot,, you a retired artist??

    i looked up some old posts.. read one about unions
    charging outrageous fees to plug something in back
    n 2001.. but alas, i digress..

    on with the assault PerrAlinskyites!!

    ==

  • [email protected]

    retire @ 78, yep, that “I want full vetting” crap was a very feeble, very transparent straw man used as an excuse to post a bunch of negativity about a strong candidate with proven ability to win and to change things for the better.

    Thanks for clueing me in. 😉

    Trolls lie. They have to. The truth is their enemy.

  • [email protected]

    bg, if you don’t care what I think or say about you, why have you written umpteen (mostly unitelligle) posts to me and taken the time to look up some of my old posts?

    Never mind. I know the answer.

  • Patty

    I would love to see a debate between Perry and Obama…I think Perry would win, scratch that, Perry would win.

  • bg

    ++

    retire05 #78

    yep, i’m such a dimwit that fanatic Perry lovers ignore me, oh wait..

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  • [email protected]

    Make that “unintelligible posts”.

  • bg

    ++

    rathernot Alinsky #84

    they’re called replies, or something like that, one person writes
    something the other responds, if you stop addressing posts to
    me, i won’t have anything to respond to, get it??

    and btw..

    no one said it was your old post, well, cept maybe you just did.. 😀

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    rathernot et al #83

    words i live by..

    “Let the world know you as you are, not as you think you should be,
    because sooner or later, if you are posing, you will forget the pose,
    and then where are you?”
    ~ Fanny Brice

    you ought to give them a try..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    oops re: #89

    rathernot et al #83 = retire05 et al #83

    eh, no real biggie..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    re: #90..

    retire05 et al #83 & rathernot et al #83

    “fresh eyes”, so to speak, are a danger to any candidate..

    and while i never said anything but that i liked Perry, i also said i won’t
    cheer on a switch hitter, so if i take the time to vet him, what’s that to
    you?? i mean, the way you talk one would think ypu knew him like the
    back of your hand, one would also think hhe would be would defended
    with facts vs ad hominem attacks & out of context submissions, not to
    mention irrelevant comparisons..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    uhg, re: #91

    hit post vs preview..

    i mean, the way you talk one would think you knew him like the
    back of your hand, one would also think he would be defended
    with facts vs ad hominem attacks & out of context submissions,
    not to mention irrelevant comparisons..

    yeah, i know, ‘unintelligible’, sue me.. 😛

    ==

  • Redwine

    rathernot (#76, et al.) – I also call BS (CBS! LOL) on you. bg has been posting here for a very long time and has added significant resources to virtually any argument. If you never noticed bg, then you are either a newbie or a troll. I suspect you’re a troll.

  • Ginger

    bg…#17 said:

    the MSM et al are “choosing who runs” against
    Obama bell is ringing way too loud, AGAIN!! :*(

    ——————————————–

    I think that you are on to something. (wink) (wink)

    btw….I have enjoyed all of your post today keep up the good work. Do not stop! 🙂

  • RedBeard

    With my own history of having once been a brainless leftie, I can’t really fault Perry for starting out wrong before waking up and moving to the right. He seems to have awakened a little later in life than I did, probably because he was raised as a Yellow Dog Democrat, but better late than never. Some of his positions remain troubling to me, but I need to find out more before condemning him.

    As I recall, Ronald Reagan was a New Deal Democrat at one time, but eventually brushed the cobwebs from his eyes.

    We all make errors in judgement. Recognizing those errors and correcting them is a good thing. Let’s see how far Perry has come in doing so.

  • bg
  • Ginger

    Redwine you are so right! I have learned so much from bg ….and I thank her/him so much.

  • bg

    ++

    Ginger #94/97

    aww thanks (also hope to see you around more).. 🙂

    Redwine 95

    as i’m almost sure you know, so was i, perhaps that’s why i am a
    bit harder on Perry, i take note of things lifelong Reps might miss..

    #93

    appreciated, thank you..

    ==

  • Redwine

    THX for the link, bg (#96). I sense that there’s a deliberate movement underway to pin Bachmann down – being the only real Conservative of stature in the race. (Santorum doesn’t stand a chance.) Perry will churn things up considerably, since she’s pulled ahead of the Dem/MSM choice of Romney.

    A real Conservative is needed to stop the progressive steamroller that is destroying America, and to turn the ship of state around and start the move to restore the Republic, then there must be a concerted effort to stand with Bachmann. But that’s just my POV.

  • bg

    ++

    Patty #85

    me too.. heck, i’d like to see Obama debate
    anyone (aside from that guy in his mirror)..

    ==

  • Redwine

    Just a note, bg. I’m not RedBeard (95). I’m a lady. (G-d forbid I should have a beard!!! 😉 )

  • Molon Labe

    Perry’s weakness isn’t his economic record and Obama is foolish to confront anyone on this score. But how will Kerry square his positions on amnesty, abortion, and big government? The only difference between Romney and Kerry is Romney actually inbitiated an Obmacare package and Perry has not.

    Perry is just another of the long line of RINOs trying to pass himself off as a conservative. If you close youe eyes you can see Bush speaking instead of Perry. Only the GOP could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. If they select another RINO then Obama gets four more years.

  • bg

    ++

    Redwine #59

    i’d be careful and maybe take that with a grain of salt until it can be
    confirmed, and even them i would be cautious.. although i do believe
    Perry to be on par with Obama when it comes to creating religious
    kingdom so to speak (bit more here & here)..

    America wrestling with religious law

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    Redwine #101

    oh my, that’s what i get for playing with my eyes crossed.. lol!!

    thank you again..

    correction re: #98

    Redwine 95 = RedBeard #95

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    Molon Labe #102

    amnesty, big gov, perhaps, but abortion..

    Texas Sonogram Abortion Law Signed By Rick Perry

    you sure about that??

    ==

  • Rose

    TEXAS CREATED THOSE JOBS with policies that ALL pre-date Perry – just were not highlighted until Marxist states began to fail so miserably that their people began to flee to Texas.

    Perry didn’t create or promote those policies. HE INHERITED THEM!

    AND PERRY IS NOT RUNNING ON THE RECORD OF ISSUES HE FOUGHT FEROCIOUSLY FOR!

    Wonder WHY! YOU SHOULD! Do some digging and find out what it was in TEXAS that RICK PERRY fought HARD battles for – AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME!

    WHY isn’t he running ON THE PLATFORM OF THOSE ISSUES, instead of on a Platform of TEXAS CONSERVATIVE POLICIES THAT PRE-DATE HIM!

  • Rose

    #105 August 13, 2011 at 10:22 pm
    bg

    YEAH! SURE! Because there is a DIFFERENCE between PERRY IN CAMPAIGN MODE and PERRY the rest of the time!

    Otherwise, Perry could have fought harder for that sonogram bill a few months before – and even several YEARS before when the rest of Texas Conservatives were, and he was nowhere to be found.
    He didn’t come back on that bill til he found it POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT to do so, setting the stage for TODAY!

  • Redwine

    LOL, bg (#104)!

    I’ll step carefully with Perry. My gut instincts tend to be rather good. I would hate to think that Perry’s running because Romney can’t pull ahead of Bachmann. Grrrrrr.

  • bg

    ++

    re: those CA comparisons, go figure..

    Rick Perry’s California connections

    ==

  • Rose

    #95 August 13, 2011 at 8:39 pm
    RedBeard

    Well, Perry THRIVES on CAMPAIGNING as if he were even the slightest bit Conservative!
    He really has a LOT of the TALK down – WHEN HE IS CAMPAIGNING!

    But he doesn’t STAY in Campaign mode the way Obama does.
    It is what Perry DOES you have to worry about.

    Especially when he is trying to RAISE REVENUES instead of CUTTING GOVT SPENDING – ESPECIALLY when he is trying to rescue ILLEGAL ALIENS AND THEIR ENTITLEMENTS from Conservatives…
    Etc Etc Etc Etc…

    SOMETIMES the BIG DIFFERENCE is his DEAD SILENCE AND COMPLETE ABSENCE during a huge battle.

    Suddenly, some huge DIM STEP FORWARD takes place WE DIDN’T KNOW WAS ON THE RADAR – because HE didn’t step to a microphone and TELL US in time for US to battle for our POV.

    WHY would he NOT NOTIFY the CONSERVATIVE of an important issue we need heads up for????

    I’ve asked myself so many times, the last TEN YEARS!

    IF HE IS THAT MAN WHO WILL FIGHT FOR CONSERVATIVE ISSUES AND FIX OUR GOVT!!!

  • Rose

    #108 August 13, 2011 at 10:39 pm
    Redwine

    HMMM!!!!!!!!!! ALSO just because he wants to make sure SOMEONE in the WH will sign SHAMNESTY. And preferably for HIM, the McCain Kennedy SHAMNESTY!

  • Rose

    #89 August 13, 2011 at 8:09 pm
    bg commented:

    ++

    rathernot et al #83

    words i live by..

    “Let the world know you as you are, not as you think you should be,
    because sooner or later, if you are posing, you will forget the pose,
    and then where are you?” ~ Fanny Brice

    you ought to give them a try..

    ==
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    You can sure tell that is FANNY BRICE and not Rick Perry!!!! I GUARANTEE!

    Or Perry would be bragging about HIS OWN POLITICAL BATTLES instead of PRE-EXISTING TEXAS POLICIES HE HAD NO HAND IN CREATING!

  • Ginger

    Good late night reading…Insider is back using the f…word alot.

    http://newsflavor.com/politics/white-house-insider-the-obama-plan-part-one/

  • bg

    ++

    Rose #106

    oh i hear you loud & clear..

    there’s a lot of investigating to do vs resting on ones “stfu,
    we know him like the back of our hand” laurels so to speak..

    and what to make of this, hmmm..

    [Maddow highlighted U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics data cited by the Independent, showing that weekly wages in Texas have been stagnant since the recession began, compared to California, New York and the U.S. as a whole. From December 2007 to April 2011, weekly wages in Texas increased 0.6 percent, compared to 9.3 percent in California, 2.5 percent in New York and 5.0 percent in the U.S.]

    never watched her (don’t have cable news), ran across both links looking
    for other info, cannot stand her, but even she can be right twice a year..

    oh btw, someone else loves Perry (hint: Wayne
    Slater, a wanna be to EP what tingles is to BO)..

    the truth always reveals itself, always..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    re: #114

    wanna be to EP = wanna be to RP

    ==

  • Rose

    I’ve heard two or three times now – Perry is still polling SOFT among TEXAS CONSERVATIVES.
    He polls worse than SOFT with me!

  • big L

    C’mon everyone play nice. Let us not let these scronks divide us up.

  • Rose

    #114 August 13, 2011 at 11:07 pm
    bg

    Big OK! THANKS!

    It is so scary when I run across a thread that is over-stuffed with RABID Perry supporters. EEEKS!

    Hey, if this doesn’t work out for him, maybe he would like to go to Hollywood and make MOVIES with Tommie Lee Jones!

  • bg

    ++

    re: #114

    re: Wayne Slater.. 😀

    ==

  • Rose

    #10 August 13, 2011 at 3:15 pm
    Vero
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I’m from Texas – I voted for Perry every time he was on the Texas STATE ballot as a Republican. Including this last time – after Debra Medina imploded.

    It was the LAST time I’ll ever vote for a RINO as the LESSER of the evils we have to choose from.

    NEXT TIME, I’ll WRITE IN or Vote Third Party.

    NO MORE COMPROMISE!

    If GOP voters want to put Conservatives in that position, they are just as free to do what is in their conscience.

    The last few times they blackmailed us that way, it didn’t work out so well. Already too many millions who won’t even HAVE that conversation – they aren’t talking politics AT ALL and won’t be talking politics, NOW. If a person they can vote for isn’t on the ballot, they stay home without giving it a second thought.

    So, Gerald Ford, Robert Dole and John McCain were enough for “Moderates” to learn:

    MODERATES in the PRIMARIES are a DEMOCRAT FLAMING MARXIST’S very very very best friends.

  • Ginger

    Come on Sarah announce your run….Knock that Bilderberg Perry out of the race now! Let us turn the focus on you and Michele Bachmann and may the best lady win…so to speak. 🙂

  • Rose

    re: Wayne Slater.. 😀

    LOL! Yeah, quite the Tingler, ain’t he! hehehehe

    You’ve succeeded where no one else ever has – that was my FIRST watch of a Rachel Maddow piece!

  • Sandy

    Funny when Obama was running no one knew anything about him but they were thrilled that he was going to break the color barrier. So what if he had only served 2 years in the Senate or that after 3 years on the job he still is a blank slate. Now here comes Rick Perry who has been in public life for 27 years. His 3 terms as Governor of Texas are an open book for all to see. Now some on this site want to form a circular firing squad to stop any Republican from winning in 12.

    I am not a right winger in fact I was a Dem until last year but what I see in Perry is a real American. He loves his country and his God and he can bring us back to the America Obama assured us was dead and buried.

  • [email protected]

    Oh, good grief. They really ARE trolls and morons…..linking to slimeball Ulsterman and his totally fraudulent, non-existent White House Insider. If you guys aren’t trolls, then you’re the most gullible, brain-dead conservatives out there, and I mean “out there”!

    http://ulster-man.blogspot.com/2010/11/intro-to-ulsterman.html

    http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/news/2010/11/20/triond-and-lie-machine

    You’d all be better off watching “Days of Our Lives” or “All My Children” rather than trying to discuss politics. It’s just beyond your abilities, as proven by your belief that the White house Insider exists.

    Go to your rooms, sit back, be quiet, and wait for the Easter bunny and Santa like good little boys and girls.

    Nighty-night.

  • [email protected]

    Sandy, they’re more interested in fantasy than the very serious business of ridding this country of the worst scourge we’ve ever seen in our history. A circular firing squad is no big deal when you have no skin in the game or are too gullible and persuadable to realize you do.

    And any idiot who thinks Rick Perry inherited all the good stuff and accomplished nothing during THREE terms follow the same reasoning that obastard uses when he blames all our current woes on Bush who left the TX governorship 8 YEARS before he left the presidency, lol! In other words, all the good stuff happening under Perry was inherited from 11 years ago and all the bad stuff happening under obastard was inherited from Bush from 3 years ago. It’s the same stupid argument, just from a different political ideology.

    You just have to laugh. That’s really all you can do…..stand by with swabs and tweezers while watching the retard wing of the conservatives shoot us all in the foot AGAIN by buckshotting the ONE CANDIDATE that has the obastard campaign crapping their britches.

  • bg

    ++

    Sandy #123

    lol, don’t know who the “they” you’re talking about are.. but “they”
    certainly weren’t posting in here… Daily Kos or HuffPo perhaps, but
    not GP.. eh, someone mentioned pathetic earlier, you the winner!!

    oh wait..

    rathernot #124.125

    yawn..

    ==

  • workingclass artist

    @78
    “anyone who thinks that Rick Perry has not been vetted, after running for Lt. Governor and Governor three times, in a state that views political races as a full body contact blood sport, is just dimwitted….”

    Damn Straight!

    This Rodeo will be a HOOT! Perry is going to campaign in every state…He’s got time and money and he likes talking to people and listening to them. Americans can fix this economy the way we always have but DC has got to get out of the way & conservative governors need political support to work with their own people in their own states.

  • workingclass artist

    Gov. Scott of Florida says he wakes up every morning asking himself what he can do to bring more jobs to his state than Rick Perry of Texas..That is the states laboratories and healthy competition our founding fathers had in mind and what made America great. This is what is lacking due to DC & Unions. This is what Obama and his liberal regime have tried to make Americans forget and it has caused fear, confusion,anger and demoralization.

    Florida is gaining jobs each month…the governors are friendly rivals & Scott had to pay off a recent NBA bet when the Mavs took the title.

  • bg

    ++

    re: #103

    re: Redwine #59

    more here & here..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    workingclass artist #127

    yep, the worst of the lot are those career politicians..

    ie: Harkin, Feinstein, Specter, Dodd, Kennedy, Kerry, McCain, Snowe, Boxer, Kyl, Frank, could go on and on, but am sure you get the drift..

    “VET EM & FORGET EM” is certainly not something i would champion,
    imho those who do, are at the very least dishonest, not to mention
    a bit corrupt at heart.. all our representatives feet need to be held
    to the fire, be they serving “we the people” 1 day or a 100 years..

    however.. you, nor anyone else, have to agree with me..

    ==

  • RedBeard

    Earlier on, did someone confuse me with Redwine? 😉

    Just remember, RedBeard drinks an occasional red beer, but not grape squeezin’s. 😉

  • bg

    ++

    RedBeard #131

    LOL!!

    aye, that be me (and i’m a teetotaler).. 😀

    ==

  • Of course, POTUS Downgrade is scared sh*tless of Rick Perry’s economic record. And whenever they talk about Perry’s “crony capitalism,” they shouldn’t forget those 25000 new jobs in DC, with a population of only 700,000, which are a result of Obamandias’s “crony socialism.”

  • Nancy

    “Rubio would be good, but is he a natural born citizen? Were his parents born in the USA?”

    Rubio’s parents were legal immigrants, and Rubio was born in the USA.

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