Another Blow to Al Gore: Scientists Say the Arctic Tipping Point May Not Be Reached

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In case you didn’t hear about this already, by next year the North Pole will be completely ice free.

Junk scientist and frozen snake oil salesman Al Gore predicted this in 2009:

From the video:

Former Vice President Al Gore references computer modeling to suggest that the north polar ice cap may lose virtually all of its ice within the next seven years. “Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years,” says Gore.

The Goracle made the same prediction to a German audience in 2008. He told them that “the entire North Polarized cap will disappear in 5 years.”

Gore has been making this dire warning since 2007.

But, now there’s this…
Scientists announced this week that the disappearance of the Arctic sea ice may be exaggerated.
Ya think?
BBC reported:

Scientists say current concerns over a tipping point in the disappearance of Arctic sea ice may be misplaced.

Danish researchers analysed ancient pieces of driftwood in north Greenland which they say is an accurate way to measure the extent of ancient ice loss.

Writing in the journal Science, the team found evidence that ice levels were about 50% lower 5,000 years ago.

They say changes to wind systems can slow down the rate of melting.

They argue, therefore, that a tipping point under current scenarios is unlikely.

Isn’t it about time this huckster returned his peace prize?

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  • saveus

    maybe the men in white coats need to put him away

  • archtop

    “Isn’t it about time this huckster returned his peace prize?”

    No! We want his 2007 prize to be a permanent reminder of how much of a joke the Nobel Peace Prize has become. (And we also want to be reminded that the IPPC and Al Gore did NOT get the Nobel prize in physics…LOL!)

  • K

    Driftwood? Al Gore is an idiot but driftwood? You’re punching downward and it undermines your credibility.

  • PamM

    But has Algore’s tipping point been reached? Only he and his bathroom scale know for sure.

  • rbosque

    Dumb ass! My old biology professor was a Gore-lemming, I fought with him because he kept pushing this BS WITHOUT applying the scientific method he taught.

    Well guess what? HE WAS / IS FULL OF CRAP!

    I was right.

  • It’s the AUDIENCE that’s the problem, not Gore. He’s parsed it perfectly. Some lawyer helped him, no doubt. IN five years, during SOME SUMMER months, the ice will be completely gone.
    WEll, duh. AS it does EVERY SUMMER.

    How does it go from a carefully constucted factual statement to making that illogical leap to thinking the ice cap is going to melt and stay melted?

    People who have been in the corrupted AMerican Education for the past twenty years and learned NOTHING about ANYTHING, that’s how it goes.

    SO WHAT if the ice cap melts in SUMMER? It’s -80 F the rest of the time. Heat it up 5 degrees, whoo-hoo, it’s -75F, heat it up 20 degrees and it’ll still freeze you solid as a popsicle in ten minutes flat. THe North Pole freezes an unfreezes every year and no rise or lowering of sea levels, how about that? No one’s heard of “displacement” either.

    People do not KNOW this, they know Britney Spear’s latest stupid outfit, but they don’t know it’s IMPOSSIBLE for the poles to ever melt away unless we have an entire planetary shift and the poles suddenly become our new equator.

  • Al Gore’s tipping point may be irrelevant even if reached. Arctic ice cover is a flawed benchmark for AGW according to a couple recent reports at Science Daily News. With no help from man, Arctic ice 5000+ years ago was less than half of what it is now. Also, wind reduces the % coverage by driving large masses from the main ice cap down past Greenland. (links available http://metanoodle.blogspot.com/2011/08/arctic-ice-cover-is-flawed-benchmark.html )

  • Al Gore did not claim “the entire North polarized cap” will disappear. It’s disappointing to see such a phrase, as there’s no such thing as a polarized cap, at least not at the North or South poles of the Earth, and any native speaker of English ought to know this. The phrase in question is “polar ice cap”.

    Please, Jim, up your game.

  • And don’t forget, his wife dumped him like yesterday’s garbage lol

  • Rose

    Algore will find things well-thawed out in his future eternal abode. I hope he’ll be real happy with himself, then.

  • Estragon

    Al Gore is the kid from the neighborhood who really, really tries but just can’t keep up with his age group mentally or physically, the one who overcompensates by trying to become the best at something, even if it’s something odd or lacking popularity, just so he can be the best at something. But he never quite makes it, and always ends up embarrassing himself.

    You almost want to feel sorry for him, until you remember the Google guys gave him nearly half a billion dollars worth of stock options for just being that wacky guy who invented the internet. Then you just say, “Rock on, Dufus!”

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  • Bill Mitchell

    How arrogant are liberals? When reality doesn’t match their models, they declare that reality is incorrect.

    Seriously.

  • squeaky

    i know all i need to know about fat albert. left washington with the change in his pocket and now he’s close to being a billionaire – not on the creative genius of hard work and innovation but rather on a whole lot of hot air and bs. a fool and his money are soon parted. al gore is nothing more than an educated thief – not really much different from the street hood who will knock you down and take your wallet.

  • Cat lady

    And just think but for the grace of God that man would have been our President!!!

  • squeaky

    if you can’t dazzle them with your brilliance – baffle them with your bs.

  • a former dem

    I’ll admit I was one of those people who believed in global warming starting in 2006, I do believe there might be some climate change, but I’m not convinced its human’s fault, and more relevant I don’t think we should shackle our economy will more EPA nonsense to reduce .0001 of the CO2, while china, etc don’t care and keep expand their economies.

    Al gore, someone I voted for in 2000 is one of the biggest idiots have seen.

  • tarpon

    Maybe a grizzly old polar bear would like a snack? Not to good, but sometimes you got take what you can get when you get old.

  • Liberals have no tipping point , they’re crazy , stupid , con artist nitwits , 24 hours a day through out their whole miserable life.

  • Ripped

    “The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” Ronald Reagan

  • tadcf

    I rarely have time to go back and analyze the arguments which may be posted in response to my statements—because there are so many far-right-wing-ultra-conservative Internet sites to be read. In positing the following comment, the only thing I ask is that whether the assertions be mine or others, divest yourselves of all pejorative thinking and investigate for yourself to find the truth:

    Good. This is the scientific method at work. Gore was previously depending on a computer model to make predictions–the only method available at the time. Now, new scientific evidence presents itself. Later, maybe conflicting evidence may bring that hypothesis into question. Readers and writers of such blogs as this one would do well to learn something about scientific discovery.

    If you want to be entertained, watch FOX, MSNBC, or CNN. If you want to be informed, watch LinkTV or FreeSpeechTV for real news, analysis, and documentaries.

  • workingclass artist

    Yeah…and the Goreacle wants America to experience an “Arab Spring” too…STFU Al & move to Europe already

  • The Goracle is a livelong shyster specializing in scams.

    Who else would shack up with something named “Tipper?” Granted, he got rid of her, but he gets crazier by the day.

    The congressional hearings about smut in rock music with Frank Zappa are just one reminder of what these self-appointed minders are capable of: creating problems only they can solve.

    Its the same with the despicable Klintoons.

  • Andreas K.

    I know that the Alfred Wegener Institute has reported ice records in the Arctic seas. Never before, in recorded history, was there so much ice up there. And we haven’t been watching those ice levles for a very long time either. Al and his “scientists” base their fearmongering on observations that are basically just a few decades old. Decades mean nothing for the ice flow. You need to talk centuries there.

    Oh by the way… the glaciers have been melting for centuries now. Going back to the Romans. Damn those Romans and their heavy industry!

  • The Midieval Warm Period

    Hello?
    Finally notice me in the acheological record? I was feeling so neglected by the AGW nutcases. Almost like those generals Stalin had erased from photographs. That trick doesn’t really work, you know.

  • Eddie Willers

    Can I come down out my tower now? So who are the science deniers now? I guess the Warmers are the real flat Earther’s in this debate.

    Who do I see about getting my reputation restored????

  • Dead Ancient Roman Engineer

    Yeah…We caused Polar Ice melting…It was all that concrete we mad for roads, the big colosseum and other empire stuff…it happens…

    I woulda thought you modern “geniuses” could fix the problem but at least you have system for decent plumbing thanks to our efforts…

    Stultus est sicut stultus facit

    *Al Capone is having trouble rallying dead romans to vote democrat this cycle…go figure*

  • Radegunda

    tadfc,
    Nice try, but taking Algore as a serious scientific thinker is weird. He has steadfastly refused to debate anyone who disagrees with him, including meteorologists and other scientists who offer physical evidence to refute the computer models, and who point out problems with how the modeling was done.

    The warmists have pretended that the thousands of scientists in pertinent fields who disagree with Algore simply don’t exist, or that they’re all kooks or liars, while the motley assortment of academics and celebrities who sign warmist petitions are all unimpeachable authorities.

    Algore and his pals have been labeling any who question or challenge their position as “deniers” and have compared them to “Holocaust deniers” — is if challenging their computer-generated predictions for what MIGHT happen were comparable to denying the historical record about what HAS happened. Do you defend the intellectual dishonesty (or stupidity) required to make that comparison?

    The warmists have claimed that anything and everything that happens in the weather, including unusually low temperatures, is evidence of manmade global warming. The cumulative list of “results of global warming” is ludicrously broad and self-contradictory.

    The warmists have exhibited characteristics of a religious cult for a long time.

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  • Don Rodrigo

    Driftwood? Al Gore is an idiot but driftwood? You’re punching downward and it undermines your credibility

    Yes, driftwood. Ancient driftwood from the Holocene Optimum of 6-8000 years ago. Otzi the Iceman was preserved for over 5,000 years, so why the surprise, scorn and derision about driftwood? You wanted science, right? Well, you got it.

    Incidentally, one reason it is known as the Holocene Optimum is because thjis warming (somewhat warmer than now at its peak) has been considered a good thing. Just to educate you on more science, we are still in the Holocene.

    So, are you OK with the driftwood thing now?

  • Don Rodrigo

    Hello?
    Finally notice me in the acheological record?

    Actually, this report refers to the Holocen Optimum or Maximum of thousands of years ago, not the Medieval Warming Period. However, you are correct, the MWP was indeed ignored by the AGW “scientists,” until Climategate star Michael Mann finally acknowleged the MWP’s existence last year. “Inconvenient Truth” that!

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