Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) and Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA) respond to the Obama Administration’s latest move to regulate guns that they were selling to cartels and foreign gang members in their “fast and furious” and gunwalking programs.
There is now evidence that the Obama Administration was looking for anecdotal cases to support their regulations on long gun multiple sales.
From the video: Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), Chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, discusses the Justice Department’s latest rule on reporting sales of certain semi-automatic weapons to federal authorities, as related to Operation Fast & Furious and changing gun laws.
Senator Charles Grassley released this statement yesterday:
Senator Chuck Grassley, Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, gave the following comment after it was announced by the Justice Department that Federal Firearms Licensees along the Southwest Border would be required to report multiple long gun sales. The Judiciary Committee has primary jurisdiction over policy related to the Justice Department. Grassley is also leading an investigation into the risky strategy employed by Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to allow guns to be sold to straw buyers and then watch the guns be transported to third parties without following the guns.
“We’ve learned from our investigation of Fast and Furious that reporting multiple long gun sales would do nothing to stop the flow of firearms to known straw purchasers because many Federal Firearms Dealers are already voluntarily reporting suspicious transactions. In fact, in just the documents we’ve obtained, we are aware of 150 multiple long guns sales associated with the ATF’s Fast and Furious case, and despite the fact that nearly all of these sales were reported in real time by cooperating gun dealers, the ATF watched the guns be transported from known straw purchasers to third parties and then let the guns walk away, often across the border. This makes it pretty clear that the problem isn’t lack of burdensome reporting requirements. The administration’s continued overreach with regulations continues, and is a distraction from its reckless policy to allow guns to walk into Mexico.”
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Published May 21, 2012 at 12:19 am - 58 Comments
Multitude commented:
Well, it sure makes Nixon look like a half-assed putz. Then again, Watergate wasn’t a strategic drive to overtake a nation-state and lead it further into totalitarian control by powerful global-capital elites.
Stuart commented:
We should stop referring to them as executive orders. They are for all intents fuhrer befehlen.
Ve don’t need no stinking second amendment. Also sprach Kamerad Obama.
Terry Green commented:
Go Darrell!
gus commented:
If Issa and Grassley fall in the woods. Do they make a sound.
Yes!!! But only THEY hear it.
#1AMERICAN commented:
odumbo the mooslum POS must be impeached…GUN gate, murder of US citizens…who has the balls to start the charges…if nobody…god help the USA
lemonaide commented:
This is all part of Der Fuhrer’s “under the radar” plan to nullify the 2nd Amendment. If he get’s away with this, more will be coming. He will use the next mass shooting perpetrated by some unstable antisocial nut case to ratchet up the assault on responsible, law abiding gun owners. Make no mistake about it — there is a master plan to disarm citizens. Then what?
Don Rodrigo commented:
So, now it’s safe to say that the whole “Fast & Furious” scheme was a convoluted plot to help further gun control. This reality is no longer the province of cranks.
Valerie commented:
A short summary of the difference between the Bush administration and the Obama administration:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/07/08/obama_adminstration_to_implement_more_gun_control_without_congress
Gunwalker v. Fast & furious
“Project Gunrunner was implemented under the Bush Administration and involved allowing straw purchasers to buy weapons under surveillance but then those purchasers were immediately arrested in the United States. Operation Fast and Furious was started in 2009 and involved ATF agents allowing straw purchasers to buy guns under surveillance for drug cartels and then take them across the border into Mexico. Those guns are now lost until they are found at crime scenes.”
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Those three sentences, if true, are damning. So. Are they true?
Rachelle commented:
I thought from the first that the entire Gunwalker scheme had nothing to do with law enforcement and everything to do with a criminal enterprise to achieve a propaganda coup.
Holder and the people behind this should be in prison.
aprilnovember811 commented:
Why are they letting these two criminals get away with this. Obama administration? For God’s sake, FOX, it’s not an administration, it’s a REGIME!!!
Mad Hatter commented:
Everyone knows where the money for this came from, right?
They got $10 Million Dollars from the $878 Billion Dollar Stimulus Bill.
Scroll down to page “H.R. 1 -16″, and it’s in the third paragraph.
“For an additional amount for ‘‘State and Local Law Enforcement
Assistance’’, $40,000,000, for competitive grants to provide
assistance and equipment to local law enforcement along the
Southern border and in High-Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas to
combat criminal narcotics activity stemming from the Southern
border, of which $10,000,000 shall be transferred to ‘‘Bureau of
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Salaries and Expenses’’
for the ATF Project Gunrunner.”
http://readthestimulus.org/hr1_final.pdf
Militant Conservative commented:
I sent this video link to congressman Issa and Senator Grassley.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/MexicoBor&start=800
proof of lying under oath by Holder.
powder is dry
olm commented:
#8, yes, I believe it is true. Gunrunner and F&F are two different programs. Unfortunately the reporting on this is confusing and then the program out of Florida is starting to get thrown in further clouding the picture.
Someone, Issa/Grassely?, needs to keep an eye on the ball. Obama and Holder are excellent at doing dances around the facts and, frankly, I am afraid with all the other crap hitting the fan this will be forgotten.
Nancy commented:
People need to stop wasting their time contemplating the impeachment of Obama. Sure, the House could vote to impeach. Big deal. During the Clinton impeachment the House voted to impeach. The Senate was under control of the Republicans, and they didn’t have the guts to convict him. What do you think is going to happen should the House vote to impeach Obama and send it to a Senate controlled by Democrats? Yeah. Me, too.
We need to defeat this guy. He hates guns, he hates freedom, he hates the United States, he hates us. He will never give up his dream of a Socialist United States of America.
He needs to be voted out in 2012. Don’t waste your time dreaming about quick fixes — impeachment, birth certificate, and so forth. It isn’t going to happen.
Concentrate on working to retire him. It’s the only thing that has a chance.
Gideon Reed commented:
What did the President know and when did he know it?
Who briefed him? Who signed off on the project? Was ANY Member of either the House or Senate. ot the Vice President similarily briefed? Which agency directors or heads were also briefed and did they in turn brief or instruct, order, direct or cause to be performed any affirmative activity that would facilitate any of these felonious events subject to this operation or similiar operations in other states of the United States of America. I smell a RICO case.
StrangernFiction commented:
I’m sure Issa and Grassley will juice this for all it’s worth. /sarc
Betsy Ross commented:
What is very curious about Operation Gunrunner, Operation Fast and Furious and Operation Castaway is why would the US willingly supply arms to drug cartels and to gangs in Central America?
These operations have put the Honduran government as well as the Columbian government under more stress to reign in the drug cartels. These two countries are US allies, at least they were until Obama became POTUS.
So what gives? Why would the US even contemplate let alone implement such operations?
Pandora commented:
Grassley and Issa are not quite there yet. Fast & Furious is not a bungled operation; it went off exactly as planned.
Mikey commented:
Needed: A Special Prosecutor ASAP. Holder and Zero won’t be able to hide then. I’m still waiting for the MSM to pick this one up. They won’t be able to hide it forever. The arrogance of this administration will be its undoing.
olm commented:
I don’t think anyone is seriously waiting for Obama to be impeached. It is more like an unending amazement that this guy can do whatever the hell he wants and not be caught.
I want him caught and I want the American people to know the full picture of what a criminal we have in the WH.
Yeah, I know this is dreaming as well but if this investigation moves forward, even under the radar of the msm, it can and will be used as a campaign issue. Try telling your lefty relatives that 60+ B out of the stimulus went to supply drug cartels with guns. That ought to stop a few converstations and at least get some Obots to think.
xkaydet65 commented:
So Fast & Furious turns out to be The Reichstag Fire for those intent on limiting and ending gun rights in the United States.
TechGuy commented:
Does anyone recall the Iran Contra hearings? Where are the hearings on F&F and GR?
Iran contra was fighting commies. These gun schemes are killing Americans.
Joanne commented:
Holy crapolie!
Rock commented:
As Rahm said” Never let a serious crisis go to waste”, even if you have to create it, to achieve your agenda. Impeachment, trials, elections what a joke he feels he can control them, he only fears the public, and is doing every thing he can to nullify their objections. He is a modern day Banana Republic Dictator no different than Hugo Chavez. And if you have ever posted on any Conservative Blog, your name is on a list somewhere as a threat to the Socialist agenda. Besides impeachment, a fools errand with Bite Me Biden waiting in the wings, from dictator to fool, some choice.
WillofLa commented:
In Gunrunner, unless the firearms were purchased in small groups and then bundled in mass at some other location, those purchasers who posed as legal purchasers, may have been legal to buy the guns but were on the side of criminals and either resold the guns to the Mexican criminals who couldn’t legally buy guns in the US, or gave them the guns from money given them by the criminals to buy the guns. Either way at least under the Bush administration they were arrested inside the US for illegal possession of firearms. Obama was trying to add numbers to his statement, and backed up by Calderon and Napolitano that 98% of all guns used in crime in Mexico were purchased in the US from licensed gun dealers doing illegal gun sales and gun shows. All that is a lie, but Obama had one of his leftist followers in the BATF come up with a scam to make it look like those bogus facts about 98% of guns used in crime in Mexico to be true by following gun runners taking guns into Mexico. They then could come back before the people and show the evidence and say, “See, we told you so!” But it backfired on them and what the BATF did was against the law, as if they give a crap, and then a border agent was murdered with some of those guns compounding the problem the BATF created by allowing the guns to leave the US.
But, yes, it was for propaganda purposes that Obama and Holder, and those at the top of the BATF to be able to show that guns were being supplied to Mexican criminals from gun dealers and gun shows in the US. Not from gun shows, but legal purchases from government gun buyers were the ones purchasing these guns and they lied to the dealers as to what the purpose of those purchases were going to be. I believe that all the legal gun dealers, if they were any who were like Obama says are the ones that would be selling long guns in large quantities, to the tune of those in Fast And Furious, wouldn’t be “local dealers”, but rather licensed dealers who have access to large quantities like the government bought. We’re talking about 20 to 30 thousand guns. I don’t know any dealers around here who could buy that many guns from their venders, like Colt or somebody. I know they were most all AK-47′s, but I think there were some M-16′s in there to. I think, if I’m not mistaken, that border agent was killed with both M-16′s and AK’s. Four of them were left at the scene of the murder. What’s with that? I would think that if you’re some low life Mexican criminal who is not dripping with dope money would not have left a full automatic weapon on the ground after shooting someone because for one thing his fingerprints would be on them, like they give a damn. But something could come of it, and I for one would not have left them there. But that’s neither here nor there.
The point is Obama, Holder, and BATF are guilty of committing crimes and they knew they were. Obama should be empeached, and Holder and the rest should be put in prison…Period!!
WillofLa commented:
Oh yeah, I heard on Gun Talk this last Sunday that the woman who was the one who cooked up Fast And Furious has now been transfered to Tampa, Florida and is doing the exact same thing and is running guns with the aid of the FBI and the DEA. She is running another Fast And Furious scam into Honduras that is going to MS-13 gang members there. How about those beans??!
Rock commented:
I suspect this might be bigger than we realize. Last year in a near by city a new gun shop opened. I stop by one time to see what they had to offer. The place was filled with semi automatic rifles, 4 Barrett 50 Cal sniper rifles, drum fed shotguns and numerous other items of questionable legality. The staff consisted of at least 6, all over six foot. I left and never returned, and remember thinking that it must be set up for some kind of sting operation. Now I’m even more convinced.
Garrison commented:
Obamma wants to get us all killed with guns from mexicos? Thiscant be happening can’t it? Impeech the Nigerian!
Buffalobob commented:
A scheme hatched by the community organizer in chief and his prog stooges. Report that guns are being bought in the US and sent to Mexico. Have the imbeciles in the MSM parrot the story. Call for more gun regulations, walk around the 2nd amendment. Have Jessie, Big AL and the other race baiters play the race card to show how guns kill black people, not black people.
No Man commented:
Calling these rats liars insults liars.
The filthy animals don’t have the decency of the common liar.
Blacque Jacques Shellacque commented:
These guys need to uncover everything.
Get it all out in the open, so that the American public can see just how these scumbags operate.
fightinggranny commented:
HMMM, our government selling guns to Mexico and Honduras while preventing the citizens of this country from owning guns. Looks like a set up for confiscation of our guns and implementation of the UN Small Arms Treaty that they so desperately want. This is what it looks like to me, and I’m going out to get another gun this weekend, hopefully the gun show is closeby.
Rock commented:
When WTF finally controls the insurance industry one way or another, he will have them make home insurance for gun owners so high, that you will be faced with no insurance (not an option), getting rid of your guns, or become a felon, and thus no longer allowed to legally own a gun. Of course he could do the same with auto insurance, effectively nullifying the right to carry. Then of course those that are allowed to occupy government financed housing might find even more restrictive measures.
gus commented:
Why don’t these phuckers do their jobs. And leave us alone. Obama’s demise will not be pretty. It will be quite ugly. And there will be violence.
WJoy O commented:
My question is WHY ISN”T CONGRESS DOING SOMETHING TO STOP THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS? THE PRESIDENT”S JOB is to implement laws passed by Congress — NOT TO MAKE LAWS! If Congress lets him get away with this, we the people must get the Judicial branch involved. Our Founding Fathers created checks and balances — if Congress won’t do its job in ensuring the Executive Branch (i.e., EPA, DOE, H&HS, Dept of Justice, etc.) WE THE PEOPLE must act.
KenyanBornObamAcorn commented:
This will probably go nowhere like all the other felonies Obama has committed, mainly because I think Issa is IN on the Obama Eligibility cover up and will cover for him no matter what he has to do. He’ll make it look like he’s doing something but it will go nowhere. I HOPE I am wrong!
So, why did Issa, in 2003, co-sponsor a bill with Barney Frank to change the definition of “Natural Born Citizen”?
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.J.RES.59:
HELP!! Congressman trying to CHANGE Natural Born Citizen to Citizen!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVfnal7jM6Y
Gregg Weber commented:
Does anyone know whose pocket received the money that the gunrunners got from the gun buyers? Considering everything going on with this administration or as someone said “regime”, I doubt that all of it went where it should have gone. Either someone said that they sold each for $1,500 and kept the difference between that and $2,500 or the funds just disappeared.