Oslo Killer Plagiarized Unabomber’s Manifesto


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Oslo killer Anders Behring Breivik plagiarized his manifesto from the manifesto written by Theodore John “Ted” Kaczynski the Unabomber. Kaczynski wrote his 50-plus page, 35,000-word essay Industrial Society and Its Future, abbreviated to “Unabomber Manifesto” by the FBI, back in 1995.

Kaczynski also did not believe he was insane.

Verdens Gang reported, via Free Republic:

He has replaced the concepts, so it should fit better into his own ideology. For example, switching him out the word “Leftism” (left orientation) with the words “Multiculturalism” and “Cultural Marxism” (Multiculturalism and cultural Marxism)

The example below shows some of Anders Behring Breivik has copied.
From Una-bomb’s Manifesto:

One of the most Wide spread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism Can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general.

But what is leftism? Hum the first half of the 20th century leftism could have been practically Identified with Socialism. Today the movement is fragmented and it is not clear WHO Can pray properly called a leftist.

When we speak of leftist in this article we garden in mind Mainly Socialists, Collectivist, “politically correct” types, feminists, gay and disability Activists, Animal Rights Activists and the like. But not everyone Who is associate with one of These movements is a leftist.

What we are Trying to get that in discussing leftism is not so much a movement or an Ideology as a psychological type, or Rather a collection of related types. THUS, what we mean by “leftism” will emerge more Clearly in the course of our discussion of leftist psychology

From Anders Behring Breivik’s Manifesto:

One of the most wide spread manifestations of the craziness of our world is Multiculturalism, so a discussion of the psychology of multiculturalists Can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of Western Europe in general.

But what is Multiculturalism or Cultural Communism? The movement is fragmented and it is not clear WHO Can pray properly called a cultural Marxist.

When we speak of cultural Marxists in this article we garden in mind Mainly Individuals WHO support Multiculturalism; Socialists, Collectivist, “politically correct” types, feminists, gay and disability Activists, Animal Rights Activists, Environmentalist, etc. But not everyone Who is associate with One of These movements support Multiculturalism.

What we are Trying to get that in discussing cultural Marxists is not so much a movement or an Ideology as a psychological type, or Rather a collection of related types

– this is very interesting, says violence researcher Ragnhild Bjørnebekk the Police Academy.

But, to the liberal media, this nut is a Christian conservative.

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  • chuck in st paul

    “But…! But…! SARAH PALIN!!!

  • Jim

    Last I heard, there is no conclusive evidence that the Norway Killer actually authored the alleged Manifesto. He is suspected of it, but it is not an established fact that he wrote it.

  • AaronZ

    But, to the liberal media, this nut is a Christian conservative.

    From his manifesto, 2083: A European Declaration of Independence, pp. 1402-1403.

    “As for the Church and science, it is essential that science takes an undisputed precedence over biblical teachings. Europe has always been the cradle of science and it must always continue to be that way.

    Regarding my personal relationship with God, I guess I’m not an excessively religious man. I am first and foremost a man of logic.”

    http://tinyurl.com/3jq985j

  • Redwine

    What do we know about Breivik’s command of the English language? Until he’s shown to have perfect fluency in English, I am very skeptical of any English-language content attributions to him.

    Additionally, his capabilities in video editing should also be made public. The video that’s being circulated shows great video editing skills, with well-coordinated music and complex text only in English.

  • AuntieMadder

    Murderer’s manifesto imagined cautious alliance with Jihadists: “We both share one common goal”
    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/07/murderers-manifesto.html

  • AaronZ

    Last I heard, there is no conclusive evidence that the Norway Killer actually authored the alleged Manifesto.

    The Norwegian media has confirmed that the killer wrote it.

  • Winghunter

    Apparently, he doesn’t include Neo-Nazis in his definition of leftists:

    Norway Shooter Member of Neo-Nazi Group http://t.co/135nk8q
    “1.02am Anders Behring Breivik was reportedly a member of a Swedish neo-Nazi internet forum.

    “He created a profile in 2009, with a pseudonym that can be traced back to his email address,” Mikael Ekman, a researcher with the Stockholm-based Expo foundation, told AFP on Saturday.

    Nordisk, a web forum founded in 2007, describes itself as a portal on the theme of “the Nordic identity, culture and traditions”.

    It hosts discussions on “everything from white power music to political strategies to crush democracy”, Ekman wrote in an article published on the Expo magazine’s website.”…”

  • AaronZ

    What do we know about Breivik’s command of the English language? Until he’s shown to have perfect fluency in English, I am very skeptical of any English-language content attributions to him.

    Most Norwegians are fluent in English. If you watch the videos of the kids who survived the shootings, some have absolutely no trace of a foreign accent. When I lived in Norway, virtually every person I met was at least conversant but usually fluent if not bilingual in English.

  • MDd

    “Oslo Killer Plagiarized Unabomber’s Manifesto”

    Plagiarist. The devil you say. Did he get any help or inspiration from Doris Kerns Goodwin? Maybe Slo Joe Biden.

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  • templar knight

    There are 2 major implications for Europe when you look at the slaughter in Norway and the war in Libya.

    1. An unarmed populace and weak internal security forces make Norway vulnerable, and are an invitation to a Mumbai-type operation that could be much worse than the recent attacks. Most of Europe, with the exception of Germany, are in the same boat as Norway when it comes to internal security.

    2. NATO has been unable to defeat a small, weak Islamic country like Libya. The European military is weak as well. Without the US Military, it is doubtful Europe could hold off a determined enemy, either foreign or domestic. And the US Military is about to be drastically cut.

    I believe my theory will soon be tested. I know many in Europe won’t agree, but I really think it’s time for them to change their firearm laws. An unarmed populace is a sitting duck to a determined attacker. Take Switzerland as an example, and I don’t think the crime rate there is much different than Norway’s. Most people are law-abiding and crime rates will not explode. It’s worth a try.

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  • MDd

    Call me unconvinced. I’m still waiting to hear what church he attended. When. How often. With verified sources.

  • Redwine

    @AaronZ #8 – Thanks.
    I see the plagiarism on the Unibomber’s manifesto, so I’m still skeptical of his skills.

  • randtruth

    Re: #11 July 24, 2011 at 3:12 pm
    templar knight commented:

    So, Gateway Pundit is allowing posts sympathetic to the Oslo killer’s motives?

    Really?

  • bg

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    Christian conservative.

    [Official statistics (2010): Lutheran 80.6%, other Christian 3.6% (mainly Protestant [1.3%] and Roman Catholic) [1.3%]), Islam 2.0%, other religions (Buddhism 0.2%, Sikhism 0.0%, Hinduism 0.1%, and Judaism) 0.0%, Human Ethical 1.7%, none and unknown 13.2%.]

    Still Norway remained a conservative society.

    btw: Breivik sees Islam as eventually taking over
    Europe via differential fertility if nothing is done,

    Andy & Barry’s pal Mammy agree, go figure..

    aah, now i know why they had tom appear
    to be taking Qaddafi out vs protecting him,
    damn!!

    ==

  • Conservative Ken

    Let’s see. What has been released about this guy’s history so far?

    There are (or were) two or three spurious facebook/myspace pages attributed to him and tidbits of personal information spoon fed from Norwegian authorities. Now a manifesto turns up highly plagiarized from the Unibomber. If this were an American incident we would know everything about him down to his color underwear. Add to that the MSM bending all this information so that it’s tied to Christians and Conservatives.

    I too remain unconvinced.

  • Pat the First

    If he was an admirer of the Unabomber, maybe Norway should send him to SuperMax in Florence, CO, where he lives. Since Norway does not have the death penalty . . . why not make the rest of his life totally miserable??? Maybe he will have time to think about what he has done and ask for forgiveness. Of course, Norway picks up the tab. I have an idea that their prisons won’t be enough punishment for this monster.

  • bg

    ++

    hmmm, Plagiarizing and Photoshopping..

    what’s next, oh wait, the idiots they be already have him Palinized..

    the whole world needs to QUESTION the MSM about their blatant display
    of POLITICIZING THE DEATHS OF CHILDREN IN ORDER TO CREATE A BIAS
    AGAINST SARAH PALIN & THE TEA PARTY.. they have no morals, they truly
    don’t.. 🙁

    oh yeah, about that camp..

    and why is he still breathing?? we need to start shooting first, profiling
    these bastards later.. because i not only don’t give a flying bats guano
    about his “feelings”, but whatever made him do it won’t bring back one
    single life, not to mention it just might possibly even save future lives..

    ==

  • AaronZ

    I too remain unconvinced.

    Unconvinced of what?

    There appears to be no mystery here. I’ve been reading dark mutterings all over the conservative blogosphere, but nobody’s saying what they suspicious about. Are you saying that this is a false-flag operation meant to discredit conservatives?

    Leftists wouldn’t slaughter 90 of their own best and brightest youngsters to get Europeans to accept multiculturalism. Europeans have already embraced multiculturalism, the nanny state, unfettered immigration, high taxes, socialism, statism, etc. There was no need to try and discredit conservatism, because most Europeans already reject it. The big-government steamroller is flattening Europe right on schedule, and the deal worked out by France and Germany to “save” Greece is the final step in obliterating individual nation-states in Europe.

    The simplest answer is almost always the correct one. This is a screwed-up guy who wanted to be famous, and when that didn’t happen he chose infamy instead. There’s no conspiracy here. The press is playing up the “Christian” angle because journalists are all leftists who believe in moral equivalence. Now, they can say, “See? Christians commit acts of terrorism, too, so let’s stop criticizing Islam!”

    They feel guilty about having to report all the Muslim terrorism, so now they have the poster boy for “Christian” terrorism, that’s all.

    This is almost certainly just a case of a sick, evil man committing evil acts for reasons of self-aggrandizement and self-gratification.

  • Bobbi

    Norwegians usually have a very good command of English. Besides, he posted a video “Knights Templar 2083” which was taken down from YouTube, but is on veoh. It is in English

  • Bobbi

    Brebik went yo London I’n 2003 and joined this Templar group

  • Bobbi

    Sorry went to London in 2003 and joined the Templars.

  • Ladue Pundit

    Jihad Watch is showing the killer’s Facebook pages–one before and one after the murders. Apparently the words “Conservative” and “Christian” were added AFTER the massacre.

    How could this happen?

  • Speaking of copying…The Left’s racist and false narrative that “Christian” = “White,” and “White” = “Christian,” is plagerized from racist Nation of Islam theology.

    “Christian” is a free CHOICE of BELIEF, not a hereditary “race” or “family” or “tribe.” No Christian is above another one, no matter where each came from, what language, what people of origin. But the Left is literally hell-bent on contriving the fraud concept that “Christian” is code for only “Western European White.”

    In contrast, Islam is very tribal and “racial” favoring: Arabs are the top tier of Muslims, Saudi Arabs at the top top tier, all others are beneath them, especially Blacks.

  • ebayer

    There is a disconnect between this killers victims and and his alleged hatred of Multiculturalism.

    It’s so very convenient that he supposedly had a conservative ideology and yet all of his victims were from the society he wants to protect against Multiculturalism.

    He wants to destroy multiculturalism by eliminating children most like himself?

    This guy is no conservative christian anti Multiculturalist,because if that were truly the case his victims would’ve been people of color.

    This case stinks to high heaven and is bullsh*t.

  • greywinter

    From his actions, it’s clear that he is neither a true Christian, nor a true conservative.

  • templar knight

    #15

    What the hell are you talking about? I’m trying to convince Europeans to extend their firearm rights so that maniacs like this guy can be stopped before they slaughter the innocent. That you would describe this as sympathetic to this guy is telling about your motives.

    And by the way, I’ve been posting using the nick templar knight for years. It is a tradition in my mother’s family that one of their ancestors from France was a templar, and I liked the moniker. Do you have any more idiotic assumptions that I need to clear up?

  • succotash

    I think he looks like Julian Assange of wikileaks fame.

  • No Man

    Each year, Muslims murder tens of thousands of innocents. You cannot racial profile! And, Islam is the Religion of Peace!

    Once in 28 years (since OKC), one white, relapsed Christian in Norway kills 94. And all conservatives are to be jailed!

    Makes sense to idiot liberals (I repeat myself again)

  • WillofLa

    I can understand a little of why he did this, but it starts to unravel when you look at the bomb blast in Oslo. To begin with this is exactly how the bomb in Oklahome was constructed. The FBI never did fine that Middle Eastern man who rented the van, and it was found that this man who helped set up the fertilizer bomb with Mcfay was Al Quaeda. The truck bomb is a signature weapon of choice of the Al Quaeda terror organization primarily because it’s next to impossible to protect every building from this kind of attack. What are you going to do redirect all traffic away from every government building? How about move the building? Rediculous.

    This guy doesn’t have the radical beliefs of your typical bomber type, with wild tweets, and facebook entries with lots of screaming and finger pointing, and wild eyed accusations and threats. We see this alot from other radicals who are supposed to be serious threats that somebody is supposed to be watching. Kinda like the terrorists who got on board the planes that infamous morning on 9-11, they were being watched to. The authorities knew they got on board the planes that morning, and were being watched through the security cameras set up everywhere around the gates and parking lots. As is the case with the Oklahoma bombing, people saw this guy get out of the van after parking it in front. The damage to the buildings in Oslo were very similar to what the Okalhoma building looked like but without the destruction of the building. In this case it was mostly windows that were blown out, but blocks away from where the vehicle was parked.

    Breivik was not considered dangerous at all. He had the same feelings about Muslims moving into Norway as I do. What business do they have moving to a country like Norway that has no immigration laws that require them to adopt to Norwegian customs, traditions, or culture. And they have no law prohibiting Muslims from establishing their own country inside the country they move to. And there are those who know what “population jihad” is and that is the growth of Muslim person’s within that country get to a point where they have enough people from women having children who by their parents staying in a country where they grow up and have kids themselves, and on, and on. But the point is they reproduce to the point where they have enough population where they can vote representatives into government positions where they can start making demands for laws to either be instituted or changed giving Muslims more rights than the people of that country. The goal is to institute Shiria law that pertains to just them only and no one else. That of course is legislating discremination into that society. That is wrong because when they have their own law, we know from experience that they can behead their family members especially their wives, daughters, or beat them in public.

    I look at it this way, if they want to do those sorts of things then they just need to either not move to a non-Islamic country, or leave the non-Islamic country they are presently occupying. But they won’t leave because they are not so much there to live like the countrymen of that nation, but to take that country over by such ways I suggest. And I do not make up these things from paranoia, but from historic proof of how they have taken over countries already. We can prove what is said about their being in countries you wouldn’t expect to find Muslims in large communities. They need to be treated like Holland, and places likd New Zealand where the governments tell the incoming Muslims that if you don’t plan on conforming to being a Hollander, then leave. I don’t see anything wrong with that.

    Liberals have the idea that Muslims have as much right to move where ever they want as anyone else. And I agree with that primise. But who can take the chance that the reason why they have moved to some Christian nation who Islam is totally against in all areas of that faith, really has no business moving to that country. They are moving there for alterior reason’s other than they want to move to another country to become that nationality. If you move to America, it’s supposed to be because you want to become an American and enjoy the benefits of being an American. Unlike Breivik most people in America don’t want people to move to our country in order to take it over. And those of us who have the same attitude as Breivik towards foreigners becoming citizens for the purpose of being able to plan an attack on our country, so they won’t be watched by the government, don’t go around blowing up our government buildings because we disagree with the position they are taking on those foreigners who are being allowed to come here.

    Look what our government is doing towards illegal Mexican aliens. They have been given more rights than American native citizens have so the government can protect them. Screw that!!

    I’m like a lot of people on this site, I’m waiting for information to come out on who it really was who was doing the attacking. I don’t believe this guy had as much to do with this attack as the government is saying he had. We know how scared European nations are of Islamic people. Their attitude is they are right there where Muslims can attack them at will. But America is a long way away for Middle Easterner’s to plan and act on a attack. That is why so many have come into our country through Mexico. We have thousands of Muslim terrorists right here planning our destruction. We don’t take the attitude about somebody like Breivik that some European’s have about him. Here, he would be an asset in the people of this nation who want to protect and preserve our culture. The preservation of the American culture is one of the most important things we do.

  • Joe College

    ABC: Alleged Norway Shooter Considered WMD Attack, Jihadi Alliance
    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/anders-breivik-alleged-norway-shooter-considered-wmd-attack/story?id=14148151

    “Hamas and several Jihadi groups have labs and they have the potential to provide such substances. Their problem is finding suitable martyrs who can pass ‘screenings’ in Western Europe. This is where we come in,” the manifesto says.

  • David Elton

    The comments are interesting, but beside the point. He killed 90 people, including many young people. In any just, rational society, he would be tried, convicted and executed. But this will not happen. Therefore all your comments are wasted breath, hot air.

  • bg

    ++

    re: #16

    re: Andy & Barry’s pal Mammy agree

    “If we want to amend the state of humanity, and
    live in a global village, because of globalization [.]

    The fifty million Muslims in Europe will turn it
    into a Muslim continent within a few decades.[.]

    Europe is in a predicament, and so is America [.]

    the U.S. Should Agree to Become Islamic
    or Declare War on the Muslims. ~ M al-Q

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    DE #33

    and your comment is what exactly, a breath of cool air?? /s/

    ==

  • Noted the same thing over at my site earlier today — and note that if the Left is going to insist that there is a “transitive property of terrorism” like they have been proposing, that it will ultimately mean linking this sick freak to the Unabomber to Al Gore to the mainstream Left — and that ultimately the “blamers” will have to blame themselves for the Norway Horror.

  • WillofLa

    I am sorry that those people got killed. I believe this act is the spilling of innocent blood. Those people should have not died like that. Everyone wants to die in their sleep, not by being shot to death by some maniac terrorist. But these days you have to be prepared to deal with Muslims who will come to your country just for the purpose of killing you because yo are not Islamic. What kind of reason is that? That is no reason. Muslims need to understand that they cannot just move to my country so that they can multiply and then take over our government and change the laws to favor your people. We have discremination laws against that. What do you think liberas keep calling everyone “racist” if you look sideways at a Black, or Mexican.

    What liberals are doing are the very reasons why revolutions start, or somekind of civil unrest. And they even cause people to disobey the law and act on civil disobedience and beat the living crap out of some liberal who desperately needs it. Or some environmentalist, and animal rights people are some of the worse to have to deal with. Trying to convince them that animals aren’t people, and don’t have feelings like humans do. It’s so frustrating to talk to these people. The real problem is that they have the power to pass laws that take my rights away, but not theirs. What is that? Breivik could have just clicked and freaked out. I’ve come close to it before myself. But of course I never would do anything unlawful against a liberal because I wouldn’t be able to do anything if I was in jail.

  • WillofLa

    Has anyone read the oath that nationalized citizens take when they become citizens? You have to give up everything about the country you came from and enbrace American culture. Think Muslims who are practicing Islamics would honor that oath? Don’t count on it. That’s like Keith Ellison took his oath of office for the Congress of the United States on that Koran. The Koran teaches everything that is against our Constitutioin and Freedom and Liberty that our Declaration of Independence has. What do you think he will obey and be led by in his decisions he makes. Also he is a member of the Islamic Brotherhood, the very terror group that is currently causing all the trouble in the Middle East.

  • bg

    ++

    WillofLa #31

    excellent observations..

    and deja vu..

    already heard they were looking for an alleged partner..

    a bit of trivia re: Oklahoma City Bombing

    more here & here (& links @ links)..

    ==

  • shibumi

    Manifesto writing is hard.

  • bg
  • David Elton

    bg #35: My point is that you are all turning this into media entertainment. Justice requires that this guy be executed under law. If he’s not, what’s the point of all the empty chat?

  • It wasn’t bad enough for the Norwegian crazy man to be a mass murderer, now he’s a cheater too for copying the work of an American crazy man. There’s no honor left in the world.

  • bg

    ++

    DE #42

    two words:

    HE CONFESSED

    ==

  • WillofLa

    AaronZ, here’s what I learned in the Army, ” Don’t ever underestimate your enemy.” And don’t think for a second that liberals wouldn’t kill any number of people regardless of who they are in the cult of liberalism. The furtherment of that ideology is the only thing that drives those people.

    Are they not killing people in America with their wholly destructive economic laws that back in 2008-09 almost caused our economy to collapse? Didn’t people commit suicide after the collapse of Freddie/Fannie when they saw their entire retirement investments and savings fall to “0” when the stock market lost four thousand points in less than four days?? What about all the thousands of people who’ve lost their jobs and homes and savings and nearly everything they had after that? And since that has happened they didn’t see all the horrible destruction that did, and after that deeply apologize to the American people and then repeal and get rid of all the laws that caused that depth of destruction? All they had to do was take the restraints off the banks, take back all the money they had given to the Wall Street bankers and investment corps. so that some of the damage could be recovered?

    No, AaronZ they don’t care about anyone or any damage they did to this nation. And on top of that they caused Obama to be elected and they did not force him to reveal to the American people who he was and where he was born and all about his school records that by law he was supposed to do. Every candidate did it, but Obama refused publically. He should have been forced to do it and if he still refused he should have been disqualified right on the spot. Liberals are liberals first, and everything else comes somewhere down the list of who and what they really are. Nancy Pelosi is a member of the Socialist Democrat Party but all she claims she is, is a plain jane Democrat. Would she ever be made to tell the truth? Who knows. These people murdered John F. Kennedy with the help of the CIA and the FBI so that Communists could come into the government and deconstruct it and then rebuild it so that they could legally bypass the Constitution and no one could do anything about it. That is what they are doing now in order to pass such things as Obama Care. It’s a totally unconstitutional law. There is nothing in the Constitution that says the government can force you to buy health insurance from the government. How many people do they plan on killing with that one law? They expect to have die between 12 and as much as 20 thousand in the first year after the law kicks in in 2014. That will be from all the elderly who have preconditions that Medicare won’t allow treatment for. Medicare refuses more people now than all the private insurance companies combined and no one says a thing about it except of course the loved ones who have to watch grandma die in a filthy nursing home somewhere because she can’t get treatment. And then the nursing home is costing the family $2500 a month to keep her. Some more than that. The family can’t keep her at home because of her condition needs nursing around the clock.

    Do I think liberals would kill 94 innocent men, women, and children? You damn better believe it!!!

  • bg

    ++

    ps re: #44 re: DE #42

    as long as he’s alive, the more attention he’ll get, the more attention
    he gets, the more recruits, the more recruits, the closer we become to
    being victims ourselves, just ask the jihadists, they know how to run a
    show..

    they are thoroughly enjoying the MSM making all their points for them,
    unfortunately, no one knows which, if any, of them are true, what we
    do know however, is that they’ve already been caught LYING to us..

    ==

  • WillofLa

    Next to Islam, liberalism is the most destructive and damaging ideology and cult in the world. Liberals are the equivilant to Islam, but liberals are the legislative/judicial counter part to Islam. That is why Muslims always go to countries that are being suppressed by liberalism because liberalism so much so weakens a country that the people can’t protect themselves from an oppresive and dangerous government that kills freedoms, liberties, and takes the rights of the people away so they cannot thrive under the protection of the Constitution. I don’t know which is worse, of course I do, but just for the sake of conversation, Islam or Liberalism. Actually it’s a soft tyranny under the umbrella of Communism. If Communism had a religion, it would be Muslim. It’s because the two are so similar that there’s hardly any difference between them. Both destroy freedom and liberty. Both dictate what your rights are. Both take you money and give it to who they believe needs it more than you(the Mullah’s). Both swarm over the world looking for weak governments and weaker people who will not fight for their rights to life, liberty, and the pursute of happiness. Islam believes that joy kills the soul. Liberalism believes that only government can give you happiness.

  • bg
  • WillofLa

    McVey was caught fifteen minutes after the McMurdow building was blown up. Breivik was found that day of the attack, but of course he was identified at the camp. Doesn’t this sound like it’s just a little bit to easy? And now there’s accomplices. If this doesn’t smell fishy I don’t know what does.

  • Emulatides

    gentlemen,

    what my liberal friends have pointed out to me is not that this Breivik guy is a caucasion of a certain religious bent, but that he embodies the classic paranoid overreaction by right-wingers to the putative “fear of a brown planet”

    This guy is definitely one of your ilk, emotionally and mentally that is, although i don’t think righties are necessarily violent like this guy is; however, this should resonate with many Gateway readers in that he lashed out at a menace that hardly has found fruition in his country. He seems to be tilting at undeveloped or fully realized windmalls.

    I pray for the deceased and ask for all to remain sensible in the face of fear-mongering from both sides of the political aisle.

  • bg

    ++

    Emulatides #50

    ROTFLMBO!!

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    btw Emulatides #50

    they’re looking for you, so why not
    turn yourself in & give us all a rest..

    ==

  • AaronZ

    what my liberal friends have pointed out to me is not that this Breivik guy is a caucasion of a certain religious bent, but that he embodies the classic paranoid overreaction by right-wingers to the putative “fear of a brown planet”

    Of course. That’s why the politicians that American conservatives admire the most include Allen West, Marco Rubio, Herman Cain, Bobby Jindal, Tim Scott, and Nikki Haley. ‘Cause conservatives are terrified of those brown-skinned people.

  • David Elton

    bg #44: Yeah, he confessed, which means there is no doubt that he did it. Therefore try him, convict him, and execute him. Just like McVeigh.

  • donh

    The manifesto is clearly a fake. The guy is also reported to be a Nordic cultural purist, but his Youtube video is entirely in english with photoshopped pictures of himself tagged on the end. His bombing copied from Tim McVeigh. Seems like all a big set up to me. All that is missing is an Obama trip to Oslo for a big re-election party rally at the funeral where he can open some eyes again at the Hospital , rail against right wing extremisms on a world stage, and make the children’s death all about him living up to their crushed hopes and dreams for a world free of islamophobia.

  • AaronZ

    AaronZ, here’s what I learned in the Army, ” Don’t ever underestimate your enemy.” And don’t think for a second that liberals wouldn’t kill any number of people regardless of who they are in the cult of liberalism. The furtherment of that ideology is the only thing that drives those people.

    Baloney. I’ve lived in Norway. I know Norwegians. They hate putting confessed murderers away because they think it’s inhumane, but they’ll murder almost 100 of the next generation of liberal politicians–their own children–in the name of furthering an agenda that most Norwegians already support?

    Absolute crap. There’s no conspiracy here.

  • David Elton

    Emulatides #50: “Tilting at windmills”? Is that what you call the murder of 90 people? You are either crazy or very self-absorbed.

  • Emulatides

    Uh, Aaron, I am using “brown” as synechdoche for Arabs/Muslims. I would have said that but I was riffing on the Public Enemy concept of “fear of black planet.”

    Meanwhile, i counsel you, my fellow patriots, that, instead of making things worse and branding Breivik a progressive, which is patently hilarious and wholly fallacious, you guys should simply distance yourself from his overwhelmingly Tea Party-esque rhetoric!

  • Joanne

    People on the right are mainly Christian, law-abiding conservative people, not people who bomb a government building and slaughter children. This is the work of the left, the socialists, the nutjobs. The guy is suppose to have a problem with muslim immigration, so he targets the government, I’m supposing for allowing them in, and their children. Who in their right mind thinks like that. Who then thinks that these acts are going to make a difference in muslim immigration – it is going to do the opposite. The guy is a cold-blooded killer – the product of a socialist society where people no longer care for others they deem their enemies.

  • AaronZ

    The guy is also reported to be a Nordic cultural purist, but his Youtube video is entirely in english with photoshopped pictures of himself tagged on the end.

    Most Norwegians are fluent in English. He also says he was in contact with like-minded people in Britain and the rest of Europe. The only people who speak Norwegian are Norwegians. If he wanted all of Europe to rise up–and that’s what he says he wants–he needs to communicate with them in a common language.

    In the Middle East, protesters hold up signs in English so that their cause will be understood by the widest possible audience.

    There is no conspiracy here.

  • WillofLa

    I just heard on the radio news that 93 people were still “missing”. What is that? Did Breivik hide the bodies? I thought the cops were on the island and had lined up the bodies on the ground? What the hell is going on here?

  • Joanne

    “what my liberal friends have pointed out to me is not that this Breivik guy is a caucasion of a certain religious bent, but that he embodies the classic paranoid overreaction by right-wingers to the putative “fear of a brown planet”

    Then why didn’t this nutjob target the ‘brown’ people? He targeted those responsible for allowing the muslim immigration to continue and then put the screws to them with the slaughter of their offspring. Maybe this guy just went to the source of the problem, instead of the symptom.

  • AaronZ

    Meanwhile, i counsel you, my fellow patriots, that, instead of making things worse and branding Breivik a progressive, which is patently hilarious and wholly fallacious, you guys should simply distance yourself from his overwhelmingly Tea Party-esque rhetoric!

    Ah, how cute! A concern troll!

    The Tea Party is here to stay. Get over it. This “fringe” organization is now calling the shots, for which you and all the other foolish statists should be grateful. With hard work and luck, we just might save our country, no thanks to you.

    So shove it.

  • bg

    ++

    WillofLa #47

    just a wee sample:

    The Near Enemy

    [We have two sets of enemies. The far enemy is the politics of Islam.
    The near enemies are the dhimmi apologists, fueled by ignorance and
    multiculturalism and political correctness.]

    Time to take sides

    [I ask Rabbi Gurvis to wake up to the threat. I love my faith and yearn
    for a day that my children can realize an Islam that separates mosque
    and state and puts the “Islamic state” in the dustbin of history.

    Our founding fathers were never afraid to publicly address areas where
    faith, law, and government intersected. Our revolutionary Establishment
    Clause came out of that courageous environment. We cannot allow
    political correctness to trump American security and Islamic reform.]

    much more here.. (scroll, click on links/connecting links for more)

    ==

  • Taqiyyotomist

    His manifesto includes diatribes against LGF, mainly aimed at CJ for his abrupt left turn.

    Just sayin’.

    I have refrained from comment these last couple days. I’m not certain that this wasn’t a nationalist-racist, all too common in Europe ever since Europe abandoned its faith in Christ. The type which believes, as many of us do, that Islam and Marxism are bad, and that it is an imperative to fight against them. But also the type (I’m talking to YOU, ANDREAS K.) which has abandoned the God who gives us hope, law, and love.

    Those who abandon God, no matter whether “Right” or “Left” are most apt to ape the great mass-murderers in our history, because they have also implicitly abandoned a respect for life and love. God: he IS love, and he is the cause of life. His laws command that we also love — and if we acknowledge him, we will, naturally.

    THE MASS GRAVES OF HISTORY WERE CAUSED BY ATHEISTS, MUSLIMS, AND GOD-DENIERS.

    You cannot dispute this.
    ———

    That said, this could also, indeed be “Reichstag Fire 2.0”, worldwide. I doubt it as of right now, but I also know that this age and these “Progressives” who put Mao on their Christmas trees are capable of great deception — and only because their spiritual Father is.

    But no matter whether this person was a Lefty (pretending to be a righty, breaking eggs for the cause), or a God-less Righty, one thing is certain: he was a follower, whether he knew it or not, of Satan — the deceiver, the one who comes for “naught but to kill, and to steal, and to destroy”.

    I would definitely NOT put it past the Progs to murder 90 of their “own” in the guise of a “Rightwinger”. Not now, not ever. They’ve proven what they can and will do over the last century. More than 100 million dead in the Great Leap Forward, the Holodomor, the Killing Fields, the Shoah, and many, many, many, many more mass-murders.

    I’m not quite sure either way yet, but I’m leaning towards the killer being a God-less righty: on almost the same wavelenth as the Christians and Jews of the Right…but lacking an antenna.
    ——-

    Either way… this is a “crisis” they will not allow to “go to waste.”

    Bet on that.

  • David Elton

    Emulatides #58: No use trying to argue with Emulatides. He is obviously far more intelligent than the rest of us. I mean, he used the word “synechdoche”, which sent me running in a panic for my dictionary. He’s also very hip. Imagine, “riffing” on a Public Enemy concept. Jeez, how do you compete with that kind of super-intelligence? The guy is the whole package.

  • donh

    The Nationalist parties in England and Europe are growing in popularity much like the Tea Party here. The media coverage of Jarred Loughner was a criminally fraudulant effort to smear the political Tea Party movement in the US. Faking a manifesto by plagerizing an existing mad man rant , swapping out a few key words is exactly the kind of error blunder a backward communist propaganda agency would commit that you find in Norway. The state was in such a rush to fabricate a narrative, they did not even take into consideration Ted Kazinsky’s political leanings toward Al Gore. Using an existing video of a movement you want to put down, and tacking some photoshop pictures of Anders on the end to make it look like Anders is a part of that movement …also a very low budget hack job you would find coming from a backward communist state propaganda office like those in Norway. No….. this man Anders is a Julian Assange type anarchist “anonymous”… an evil network of Satanists hacking government computers and attacking government officials personally all over the world.

  • Joanne

    Now I’m reading the nutjob targeted immigrant children at the camp. Apparently he used bullets that exploded within the bodily tissue for maximum impact – death. Anyone who can walk about and slaughter children like he was swatting flies is nothing short of evil.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Just know that our enemy is spritual, not human.

    The Left thinks the Right is the enemy.

    The Right thinks that the Left and Muslims are the enemy.
    —-

    And they’re both wrong.

    Satan has filled the void that was created when most of the Left, and many on the Right, abandoned the God of Israel. Of course Satan is the author and God of Islam — no question there.

    We essentially, on the right, have a large contingent of emissaries of the REAL ENEMY, among us.

    This is what God-lessness leads to. Mass graves.

    And I have long suspected that Andreas would support, or excuse, or be glad over, something like this. Because he is either a God-hater or a God-denier, or both… only one other spiritual source exists with which that void WILL be filled.

    Not only does nature abhor a vacuum: so does the soul.

  • bg

    ++

    damn.. haven’t seen one picture of him that doesn’t looked like it
    was photoshopped.. are there any pictures of him with someone
    else, anyone else, Bueller??

    oh wait, here’s one..

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  • Taqiyyotomist

    #67 donh

    The nationalist parties in Europe are God-less.

    They will do, right or left, what the God-less, and therefore Satan-filled, DO.

    They fill mass graves, GLEEFULLY.

  • bg

    ++

    re: #31 & #39..

    Abel Danger

    [Abel Danger infers from the M.O. of the bombings in Oslo and Oklahoma City that NATO’s Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) and Norwegian ‘Web of Trust’ have been breached by extorted root authorities witnessed at pedophile oath-taking ceremonies of a kind allegedly developed at Oxford University’s Bullingdon Club (founded in 1780).]

    oh wow gotta let that sink in a bit..

    if not for O’s admitted pedophile School Czar appointment, some of his
    Mothers interests, or the history of PC, i wouldn’t give it a quick glance..

    ==

  • Taqiyyotomist

    ALL:

    A sizable part of “the Right” abandoned God for Ayn Rand and hero-worship.

    If you hadn’t noticed. Thought I’d clue ya in.

    How often do Palin, West, Cain, and, indeed, ALL the leading lights of Conservatism mention God and his law, and his love, and his sacrifice, and his providence, and his protection, and his faithfulness?

    Something’s missing in the TEA Party even, if it wishes to emulate our Founding Fathers:

    THAT.

  • bg

    ++

    re: #73

    link for: School Czar

    ==

  • workingclass artist

    #11
    Templar Knight….really? (eyes rolling here)

    SHEEEEESH!

  • donh

    I saw some British Nationalist Party videos on youtube some months back. Here is one that comes up on top of searches. Note how similar the background saga music is to the Anders video and the strong opposition to islamic multiculturalism. … http://youtu.be/j6uDpiX3nCE …I do not know if these are neo nazi parties. Hitler made a strong pitch to the cultural past and purity of the Germanic people too and nationalism tends to be linked to economic and class socialism. I am sure the Norway tragedy will be used to attack the BNP in England.

  • AaronZ

    I would definitely NOT put it past the Progs to murder 90 of their “own” in the guise of a “Rightwinger”. Not now, not ever.

    I’m sorry, but you don’t know Norway. I do. I lived and worked there. It’s simply not rational to suggest that Norwegian leftists would murder their own children–future liberal politicians–to further a political agenda that’s already been embraced by the majority of Europeans.

    If you want to argue that the killer himself is a closet leftist running a false-flag operation to destroy the credibility of the anti-multicultural movement, that’s different. There’s no evidence of it, of course, but it would make more sense than suggesting that people would murder their own children in support of an agenda that doesn’t need any help.

    Besides, Norway isn’t “Godless.” Eighty percent of Norwegians are church-going Lutherans, and Christianity is growing due to the immigration of Poles, Ethiopians, and Filipinos. The Russian Orthodox Church is the fastest-growing religion in Norway, outpacing even Islam.

  • bg

    ++

    donh #77

    have you seen this yet??

    only been posting it every chance i get (some times along with written articles, of which there are plenty) for several years now (ie: #48).. 😉

    ==

  • donh

    BG #70 that photo of Anders with his mother and sister also looks photoshopped. A cheap photoshop you would expect from a backward communist Norwegian propaganda ministry. What isn’t getting a lot of play is that Anders’ father is a retired DIPLOMAT to Paris and London. This is a man who could make one phone call to Norwegian spy agency directors and order a BIG FIX. You don’t get to be a high level diplomat in Norway without being a high priest of Marxism. So clearly Andres had all the priviledged upbringing of a spoiled socialist, yet in the ultimate act of self loathing, he turned on his whole circle of ruling class insiders.

  • Taqiyyotomist

    #78 AaronZ

    I’m NOT arguing it. As I said, as of right now, I’m leaning toward him being one of those racist-nationalists so common in Europe these days which many call “Right-Wing” but which deny God and his power, and his law, and his very essence: love.

    I’ll say it: before he went off the track, Charles Johnson was right. He just never knew why. There really were (ARE) a lot of ultra-nationalist, racist, and even genocidal-tending people on the right opposed to Islam — people who are, probably unbeknownst to themselves, following the only possible spiritual guide sans the God of Israel: Satan.

    Charles just went wussy, and said, ok, Islam is now NO LONGER A PROBLEM, and instead, Christians ARE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM EVER IN HUMAN HISTORY.

    Nevermind the Great Leap Forward, the Holodomor, or the constant, daily Muslim killing, stealing, lying, and destroying.

  • bg

    ++

    AaronZ #78

    re: [would murder their own children]

    the only group that slaughters their own, including children, for
    political gain that i know of are MB AQ et al affiliated groups.. 🙁

    also look to Beslan, Iraq, Pakistan, or Afghanistan as well..
    not that they haven’t been planning to slaughter our own..

    ie: Seattle Terrorists Targeted a Daycare Center

    ==

  • Taqiyyotomist

    Hey Andreas K.:

    “In his online manifesto, the authenticity of which was confirmed by his lawyer, Mr Breivik wrote that “Muslims must be considered wild animals”. However, in an apparent explanation for his targeting Norway’s centre-left government and its political allies, he added: “Do not blame the wild animals but rather the multiculturalist … traitors who allowed these animals to enter our lands.”

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/630ac5bc-b618-11e0-8bed-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz1T4rpg89V

    You agree with this demon, and said so quite profusely.

    Thank you for clarifying your stand on mass murder. It’ll help me to scroll by your every comment from here on.

  • donh

    Don’t you think ” Son of a retired Diplomat slaughters 90 children of government officials ” should be somewhere in the news headline reporting ? But that would dramatically change the political agenda narrative to blame the opponents of multiculturalism, Sarah Palin, and the Tea Party.

  • Petra

    ““We are not sure whether he was alone or had help,” a police official, Roger Andresen, said at a televised news conference.”

    “He added, “What we know is that he is right-wing and a Christian fundamentalist.”

    “Breivik has not been linked to any anti-jihadist groups, he added.”

    This news conference by this police official was reported by the global media thus entombing these initial accusations as fact into the minds of people worldwide. This has and continues to bother me.

  • bg

    ++

    workingclass artist #76

    you have a problem with Templar Nights??

    do you know anything about their history,
    or the history of the (Islamic) Crusades??

    of which btw, they’re still fighting, only now they’re killing & conquering
    in the name of JIHAD, not that it wasn’t JIHAD back when they called it
    the Crusades.. SHEESH, indeed..

    still don’t understand why he didn’t attack teens in a Muslim
    neighborhood, Madrassa, or even a Mosque.. nope, nothing
    he did makes any sense, but that’s how we ID crazy people..
    then again, was Nidal Hasan crazy?? /s/

    oh yeah, almost forgot, Jared Loughner shot his own.. *sigh*

    ==

  • Speaking Clearly

    On the one hand, this guy names and talks about his interaction with several of his friends, toward the end of the 1500 page Manifesto. This could make a conspiracy a tough sell, to hide a conspiracy from that many people.

    On the other hand, he also mentions that he forced himself to become anti-social with his friends, 4 years before his planned attack.

    He goes into a detailed diary about how he quit his business, formed a plan to obtain firearms and bomb making materials, and to rent a farm, under false pretenses, in order to obtain the chemicals for bomb making.

    Very strange set of events indeed.

    As far as the pictures being photoshopped…these pictures are at the very end of the Manifesto, and are better in resolution, but still pixilated when blown up. He claims to be the one who edited them.

    The only funny thing I see about the pictures, is when you zoom in and look at the hands of him and his mother on each side of the sister in the middle. Something doesn’t look right.

    Conspiracies sprout so easy these days.

    No matter what…America will not let events like these…conspiracy or not…to allow Progressives and Liberals brand the Tea Party as racists and terrorists.

  • Valerie

    “#29 July 24, 2011 at 4:30 pm
    succotash commented:”

    I think he looks like Zoolander

    #78 July 24, 2011 at 8:19 pm
    AaronZ commented:

    Aaron, you are arguing that the sane, ethical people you know wouldn’t do such a thing. You’re probably right. But we have the experience of Peter Q. Richkid Bill Ayers plotting to kill “millions” of Americans, and succeeding in getting a few of his own group to kill themselves. The purpose of this was to get The People angry with The Government for failing to protect them.

    Al-Qaeda in Iraq behaved the same way. Most of the people they murdered and tortured were their fellow-travelers.

    Hamas also is the same. They’re supposed to kill Jews, but they mostly kill one anther and Fatah.

    *sigh* Mass murderers do not think like me and thee.

  • donh

    This could just be an old fashioned oedipus complex. A man who hates himself for having homosexual thoughts, blames his father for all that is wrong with his life, a mammas boy who wishes to screw his mother, kills a bunch of people inside his father’s social circle to make his life a nightmare . All the videos and manifesto links to antimulticulturalists …. scripted fake TASS communist propaganda to cover up an embarassment within the ruling political class.

  • Skinner

    Cops should have shot him – he is filth and deserves death.

    Some of you people on this comment list are truly sad.

    He is pure evil and should be put down. I don’t give a damn what the media twists this into.

    The facts are plain and he is inhuman.

    .

  • Speaking Clearly

    It also seems odd how the mainstream media keep mentioning that he was of Christian faith, while the mainstream media does everything they can to never mention the faith of the Islamic terrorists.

    The mainstream media also has mentioned that he has blond hair and blue eyes?????

    How dumb. Instead of just mentioning his race. What does blond hair and blue eyes have to do with anything?

    So in other words…all blond hair and blue eyed white people think they are superior and racist because of what went on with Hitler’s third reich? How stupid.

    So is the mainstream media in all their wisdom going to start mentioning the hair color and eye color of muslim extremists?

    Be on the lookout everybody…for all those blond haired, blue eyed white guys out there!

  • Conservative Ken

    Wonder why he was under Norwegian radar? Hate speech laws. Without such an obstacle This guy just might have created an alarm just by opening his mouth.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#Norway

    I’m just a little concerned about what new laws will be passed here and abroad. Ya know, just to protect us from ourselves.

    PS, Yes I’m still skeptical about the news coming out about this too.

  • bg

    ++

    Speaking Clearly #91

    re: [What does blond hair and blue eyes have to do with anything]

    the press is absolutely JUBILANT it wasn’t another ISLAMIST attack..

    besides, they finally got their BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED CHRISTIAN
    CONSERVATIVE TROPHY TO NAIL TO THE CROSS, BURN AT THE STAKE,
    BOIL IN OIL, ETC. (btw, the majority of Norwegians are Conservative,
    /Christian, go figure)..

    btw, have they reported anything about the VICTIMS, like who
    they were, what they were, what they were doing since?? :*(

    ==

  • workingclass artist

    @#86
    “you have a problem with Templar Nights??”

    I have a Giant Problem with pretentious revisionist history…

    I’ve studied the Crusades and both the Knights Templar & Knights Hospitaller orders history for over 20 years….

    They were an ordained priestly order that took vows & had a rule based on the benedictine adapted for the military within their order, they were under the jurisdiction of the Vatican. I’d object if some foreign guy from another country styled himself as an “American Patriot” on the same principle…Authenticity…That’s my Gripe.

    I have a lot of respect for the history of the Templars…their Papal vocation and their magnificent accomplishments. It was a dark day indeed when Jacques de Molay was murdered by Philip & the Pope was forced to disband the order in 1312. That their noble history has been corrupted with fraud and scandalous lies perpetuated in popular culture and appropriated by this current madman who murdered children makes me sick to my stomach.

    These modern folks have reduced the Templar to a cartoon…a video game hero…NOT a Righteous & Honorable Soldier of the Church defending Christendom which is who they were…

    I don’t rant often…but I’ll rant about something like this…And Catholics are still pissed off about Mohammedians squatting in the Hagia Sophia…We Want it Back!

  • bg

    ++

    workingclass artist #96

    Templar Night

    aside from that, it’s still a free country..

    ==

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  • WillofLa

    Don’t you all see that this is how God planned it, for Christian’s to have to go through their hour of temptation just as was foretold in Revelations where we Christians will be attacked and accused in the name of man. Liberals have been using all these things like “tolerance”, where in the Bible we are commanded to be intolerant of evil, “equality”, where in God’s word we are taught to cast out those who do not repent, and separate our selve from the evil of the world, and do not be unequally yoked, “environmentalism” , where the Lord says look upon the birds for they neither toil nor strive for the Lord God has provided for them.

    This is the time in the worlds history where evil has come upon the world and Christians and God are cursed and dispised more than any other time in man’s history. It is time for the great persicution to begin, the war between good and evil. And for the world evil will win as foretold. That is why God is going to call up his church to be with him, while down here on Earth the rest of mankind will have to be with Satan himself. There won’t be any goodness left for God will take His Spirit away from the Earth, and man will be on his own to be totally deceived. But we will be with Christ in Heaven for the great feast as His bride.

    You people who have fallen for the lie of liberalism and Islam will end up gobbled up by Satan and his minions. The blood of the guilty will flow like a flood as he destroys those who helped him all this time to make the world a better place where all people’s came together in peace, and murdered each other. The two greatest lies in the world, liberalism and Islam will be brought together in peace by the anti-Christ to begile the world. And when he has you thinking that this is heaven on Earth, he will slaughter you all!

    So, go ahead and think your evil thoughts about how evil Christian’s all are, for your words have already been spoken in God’s word. You will take the radical acts of one and use it to justify the murder of a whole faith. And Islam will be your sword.

  • Steve

    The Daily Caller confirms that 21 years is the probable maximum sentence for this crime. Quisling was executed in 1945, and for crimes during wartime, there was a death penalty until 1979. Inmprisonment for life doesn’t exist in Norway today. — 21 years for 94 deaths, that’s 2.7 months per victim.
    http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/23/police-alleged-norwegian-mass-murderer-faces-just-21-years-in-prison/

  • workingclass artist

    #95 BG

    Yeah it’s a free country…free to bitch & whine & free to use monikers to honor family history as #15 claims.

    The Killer (claims to be a Modern Templar) in Norway claimed he tried to spark a new crusade by attacking socialists?

  • workingclass artist

    @#95 BG

    I got the comment number wrong….meant this #28

    “And by the way, I’ve been posting using the nick templar knight for years. It is a tradition in my mother’s family that one of their ancestors from France was a templar, and I liked the moniker. Do you have any more idiotic assumptions that I need to clear up?”

    It’s a free country for him to use whatever moniker he wants….

  • bg

    ++

    re: wc a #99/100

    re: [The Killer (claims to be a Modern Templar) in Norway claimed
    he tried to spark a new crusade by attacking socialists?]

    a blind man could see those pix were photoshopped, a deaf man
    could hear the msm spin, and a liberal feel sane in comparison..

    imho, your bitching & whining about #28 was misdirected..

    ==

  • Joanne

    Taqiyyotomist #69

    “For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.” Ephesians 6:12

    So true, Taqiyyotomist. I was thinking the same thing. There are only two forces in this world – God = Good and Satan = Evil. Everyone belongs to one camp at any one time in their lives. This shooter belongs to Satan at this time, but even God will forgive him is he is truly sorry, repents, and turns to God.

  • bg

    ++

    Norway attacks suspect claims collaborators

    [The man accused of killing 76 people in a bombing and shooting attack in Norway has been remanded in custody to allow police time to probe a claim that he worked with collaborators.

    Anders Behring Breivik told a court hearing in Oslo on Monday that he had “two further cells” in his organisation, in the wake of Friday’s attacks in Oslo and the island of Utoya.

    A top Oslo court official declined to elaborate on Breivik’s claim after the hearing. Instead, court chief Geir Engebretsen repeated the ruling of judge Kim Heger who is trying Breivik’s case.

    Earlier on Monday, Heger told a news conference: “The accused has made statements today that require further investigation, including that ‘there are two more cells in our organisation’.” Breivik has previously said he acted alone in the attacks.]

    ==

  • Paul

    What did this guy want? He wanted to start a revolution against multiculturalism and immigration? How was attacking fellow Norwegians supposed to do this? Muslims are raping Norwegian women as religious expression and no doubt there are impacted Muslim communities and neighborhoods that might have made rich targets for somebody avowed to violence against multiculturalism and immigration. Instead this guy took his weapons all the way to some island summer camp with unarmed teenagers as the target. He applied his bombs against Norwegian property and institutions. How many Muslims died in this attack? What Muslim property was destroyed?

    We need to know this else we can conclude that he didn’t really hate Muslims at all, he hated Norwegians.

  • Steve

    Every fifth child (21%) is eliminated in Norway. Abortion, that is. Immigration is then a necessity. But Breivik didn’t care about such details, did he?

  • O : F

    # 86, BG wrote: still don’t understand why he didn’t attack teens in a Muslim
    neighborhood, Madrassa, or even a Mosque.. nope, nothing
    he did makes any sense, but that’s how we ID crazy people..

    I’ll tell you why, you’re missing the local perspective. Here (Sweden) this is completely viewed as an attack on the social democrat party. Apperantly, his manifesto has Hitler-style death lists of people he considers traitors. Among them are over 9000 swedes, one of them is the former leader of the swedish social democrats Mona Salin. It’s put in the context of the murder of minister of state Olof Palme and foreign minister Anna Lind.

    The youth camp was a socialist camp, one person frequently interviewed is a member of the swedish left party (former “swedish communist party”). They all went to that island in the summers when they were young. It’s a symbolic attack on the social democrats’ recruiting ground, it’s entirely political.

  • Joanne
  • Joanne

    #106 – exactly. Let’s be clear on this – it is the socialists and labour parties who have put Europe and western countries in this predicament, and they are hell bent on continuing down the road of destruction. The killer targeted the root of the problem; perhaps he thought of the children as future socialist political brainwashed leaders?

  • bg

    ++

    O : F #106

    thank you so much, i totally understood what you sated..

    [had an idea, but was hearing so many
    differing views my head was spinning..]

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    re: #110

    sated = stated

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  • Actually, it would be more accurately stated that the same people behind the “unibomber” are probably the same people behind this latest false flag attack in Oslo! Hence the same general manifesto! It’s soooooo obvious! These are government staged false flag attacks to have an excuse to continue cracking down on liberty in general! The people in power in the western world are terrorists themselves, openly, and obviously! WAKE UP!

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  • bg

    ++

    #111

    agree to a certain extent..

    however, unlike true dictatorships..

    albeit there may have been some insolvent in huge understandings via
    groups of nations from time to time, i do not believe govs are in control
    of, nor do they execute these types events (so to speak)..

    i do believe govs twist the truth of events like this to their advantage..

    ==

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