Terrific- Experts Estimate There Are Only 1,000 Rebel Fighters in Libya… And 1,000 Fighters Are Jihadists

What do you want first?… The bad news or the bad news?


Rebels guard the front line on the road between Ajdabiyah and Brega as forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi threatened to push them further away from strategic oil refineries in eastern Libya March 31, 2011. (REUTERS/Finbarr O’Reilly)

CNN’s Jon Lee Anderson gave Eliot Spitzer some bad news yesterday. According to Anderson there are only 1,000 rebels fighting Gaddafi forces in Libya.

During “In the Arena,” Jon Lee Anderson, staff writer for The New Yorker reporting from Benghazi, Libya, tells Eliot Spitzer that the number of opposition fighters on the front lines are fewer than anyone would think and that they are poorly armed and badly trained. Anderson says, “Effective number of fighting men, well under 1,000. Actual soldiers, who are now in the fight, possibly in the very low hundreds on the opposition side.”

Earlier it was reported that there were 1,000 Al-Qaeda members in the rebel ranks.

Former jihadist Noman Benotman, who renounced his al Qaeda affiliation in 2000, said in an interview that he estimates 1,000 jihadists are in Libya…

…Outside observers generally estimate the number of trained Libyan fighters to be about 1,000.

Hmm.
That’s weird. So if there are only 1,000 rebel fighters in Libya and there are 1,000 members of Al-Qaeda fighting with the rebels in Libya, then wouldn’t that mean that the rebels are 100% jihadists?

And, the Obama Administration wants to arm them?
Now does that sound like smart power to you?

Not to worry… There are at least 200 more Al-Qaeda fighters on their way to Libya from Afghanistan.

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  • NeoKong

    Good…let them kill each other for a while.

  • bg
  • Chisum

    There are at least 200 more Al-Qaeda fighters on their way to Libya from Afghanistan.

    Ah, more jobs created.

  • bg

    ++

    hah, and i thought i sucked at math, go fig.. /s/

    ==

  • Carlos

    Nothing to see here. I’m sure that it all fits in with Hussein’s master plan.

  • ebayer

    “There are at least 200 more Al-Qaeda fighters on their way to Libya from Afghanistan.”

    Good…best news I’ve heard in years.
    That’s 200 less that our troops have to deal with.Let them kill each other.If this keeps up,maybe we’ll be able to finally pull out.

  • squeaky

    “Ah, more jobs created.” and high turn over rates at that. never getting beyond entry level…..

  • if we arm them in libya they can take the arms back to iraq and afghanistan to fight us there.

  • JoeyO

    Don’t worry, our non-existent boots on the ground are about to have a meet and greet in this, the Getting To Know You phase of the week-plus long Non-War we led at the request of the rest of the world before we turned over command to our generals in the blue hats. I’m sure we will now be able to negotiate with Al-qaeda into a situation where the (apparently non-existent) Secular Muslim Teachers and Lawyers who just want democracy will be the only ones to get the advanced weaponry we are itching to supply in our effort to not overthrow Gaddafi, but merely protect people who might have possibly been killed sometime in the unknown future…

    Gotta love Democrats!

  • Granny

    And this fiasco is costing the US taxpayer $100 Million – that is One Hundred Million Dollars each and every day before we arm our enemies!

  • Hedgehog

    they are quibbling over pocket change in Congress while we are seeing treason committed before our very eyes. When will people wake up?

  • from the wild variations in the “facts” being reported by the MFM, the only thing that is clear is that they, and Ear Leader, are pulling all of this out of their fourth point of contact, and none of them have even the vaguest clue what is actually occurring over there…

    as usual, i might add.

  • JoeBravo

    Question:
    If there were a 1,000 “individuals” in the Southern region of the United States (Texas or Arizona) fighting against forces that are loyal to the Laws of the United States of America, would these “Individuals” then be qualified as “Rebel Fighters”? And, would these “Rebel Fighters” then expect to receive protection from the any of the international organizations?

  • BuddyG

    al Qaeda’s joining the fray?

    Well then, at least there’s diversity.

  • bg

    ++

    Hedgehog #11

    re: [When will people wake up?]

    why, i mean, we’re 10 times more knowledgeable than any Muslim in the
    ME/A in our sleep.. /singing nah-nah-nah-nah as i exist the sandbox, uh,
    i mean, play station, sarc/

    Obama should have been ousted before Qaddafi, ergo, i hope & pray
    he’s next.. but i won’t be holding my breath, i mean, we’re “freedom
    & democracy” country, and he was elected.. pffffffff!!

    ==

  • Ryan

    The Enemy (9/11 American Killers) of my Enemy (Ghadafi)….is now Friends with the P. BO Admiistration! GROUP HUG EVERYONE WE NOW HAVE PEACE!

  • kansas

    Is consistent with Iran and Egypt. Obama supports the Islamists.

  • bg

    ++

    OT.. yeah right..

    Chavez Embraces Gaddafi and Tehran

    whatever, i mean, CNN EXPERTS tell US
    there are a thousand AQ soldiers in Libya..

    btw: absolute peace has broken out around the globe.. /s/

    but not to worry, the Messiah has spoken, there will be no regime change
    in Libya
    , no no no.. hmmm, Clinton said the samo samo about Saddam, aah,
    go figure..

    ==

  • Dave-O

    I’d be willing to bet that Khaddafi has more popular support amongst the citizens of Libya than Zippy has amongst the citizens (note I said “citizens”) of this country.

  • whatif

    How long until the arms & munitions Obama wants to give to these Al-Qaida radicals show up in Afghanistan or Iraq and is used to kill American soldiers?

  • bc3b

    Trying to pick the “good guys” in this war is like trying to pick the “good team” in a Lions-Browns game.

  • DINORight

    I thought there was just a “flicker” of al Qaeda among the rebels?

  • Well, since we are on al Qaeda’s side now let’s issue boxcutters to our military and train them in hijacking airplanes.. I never thought I’d see the day the U.S. crawled on it’s belly to lick the boots of terrorists.

  • retire05

    If you will remember, Obama said at first that we were going to do a no-fly zone in Libya due to the “humanitarian” crisis of Qdaffy’s troops killing Libyan rebels. Then we learn, via the news, that the total body count in Libya by 3/17/2011 was less than a hundred.

    So Obama changed his excuse and said it was to PREVENT a humanitarian crisis in Libya. Only he failed to tell us that exercising a no-fly zone was going to include bombing the hell out of Qdaffy’s headquarters and that it was going to cost us a pretty penny and that we were going to be spending more money that the rest of his “coalition” combined.

    But what do you expect from the guy who sided with Castro and Chevez over tiny Honduras and who backed the Egyptian rebels, claiming that the Muslim Brotherhood was not involved, although the MB is now poised to take over the Egyptian government? And remember, as people were being slaughtered in the streets of Tehran, it was not our affair, according to Obama.

    And guess what? I heard someone on the radio today say that the Air Force was being deployed to Libya and that they should prepare to be there 9 months to a year. Hardly sounds like we are going to do a no-fly and then get out. Why are the Marines being sent there? CIA? What is their purpose?Do you think if the CIA learns that the Libyan rebels are really jihadists that will make any difference to Obama?

    God help us. Can we make it through another 22 months with Obama in office?

  • Nanna1

    Gaddafi said that the rebels were Al Quida, everyone laughed, and I’m including mmyself. Looks as if he wasn’t just spinning a tale!!

  • Muffin

    Oh good grief, there are only 999 because one is living in the White House. Can God help us now, please?

  • I’m sorry but I just don’t believe this. I believe it about the Jihadists making up a large percentage of the rebels, but only 1,000 rebels total? Sorry, there just ain’t no way.

  • FGT

    Oh no, don’t those rebel fighters know that plastic water bottles are bad for the environment?!?!

  • mike191

    The “moderate taliban” are on the way-Hillary found them for President44.

  • retire05

    ThePaganTemple, have you seen the videos of the Libyan rebels? It looks like a Keystone Cop flick. Dozens of cars, some with just the driver in them, scampering around shooting off their weapons in the air (as Arabs are wont to do), smiling for the western cameras.

    Qdaffy said they were radical jihadists but our Liar in Chief chose not to believe him. Same with Mubarak. But remember, both Qdaffy, and Mubarak were radically ANTI-jihadists since they did not want to go the way of the Shah of Iran.

    Also, I would remind you that Obama said “should the political winds change” he would side with Muslims. Now, most left wingers want to assume he meant the policial winds against Muslims in the U.S., but Obama did NOT say WHAT political winds. The political winds in the ME is definately changing, and he seems to be siding with those that have strong jihadist leanings. Again, never listen to what Obama says; pay attention to what he does and right now he is supporting Libyan rebels when he doesn’t even know who they are.

  • Muffin

    meanwhile, BOYCOTT ROLLING STONE

  • MamaGrizzly

    Told ya this was all fake. We shouldn’t be in Libya. There is no (legitimate) reason. Barry and Soros playing econ games to benefit China in the long run. Plus, if Obama can eliminate all the “moderate” govts in the ME, he can rally the loony jihadiis to strike at Israel, and everyone will believe that’s a good idea, since these “overcomers” were such great guys getting rid of Egypt and Libya as we know them–the brave proletariat against the brutal regimes of oppression. Blah, blah, blah. That’s why he has tried SO HARD to legitimatize the “freedom” fighters. What a crock. OUT OF LIBYA! (I know Ghadaffi is a problem, but not even, if you consider Iran and the rest of the reason. Basically, he’s a nobody. Lots of oil though. And China’s hungry). Just sayin’ . . . .

  • bg

    ++

    DINORight #22

    well you see, it’s like this.. there was a trace, and then a flicker, but no one could designate a literal number to either quantity, but given time, hey finally came up with an expert to do the counting more than a month later.. and there you have it, the war in Libya is as over and done with as the global war on terror.. my guessimate however, is that the majority of the freedom & democracy dissenters will be discovered in mass graves decades from now, perhaps even sooner, not that anyone wil care, we won’t be around by then, seems we were too busy condmneing others freedom & democray to niotice where ours went../ 🙁 s/

    Obama, Wright, Farrakhan, and Gaddafi

    [To a great many Americans, President Obama’s response to the Libyan crisis has been puzzling. First, dithering. No response. The White House claimed “scheduling problems” for the president’s no-show. Then, wimpy calls for Libyan government restraint and an end to the violence, never mentioning the “mad-dog” tyrant by name. Then, finally, following the lead of normally-reluctant-to-do-anything-whatsoever Europeans, Obama declared “time for Gaddafi to go.” Then, military moves with warships. Then, Secretary Clinton says we must wait for the UN and move only in an internationally coordinated way to aid anti-Gaddafi forces. Now, Obama’s director of national intelligence tells Congress (and the entire world) that Gaddafi will win and the rebels will lose.

    Still, the blood flows at Gaddafi’s orders. News leaked out nearly two weeks ago that desperate rebels were begging the U.S. for military intervention. “Send Bush,” they pleaded!

    Meanwhile, back at the White House, where the cowboy is no longer in charge, President Obama held a Motown soiree, danced the night away, and a day later served a sumptuous lunch to the nation’s governors while giving them lots of unasked-for advice. Instead of meeting reporters head-on to talk about the Libyan crisis, Obama sent out his new press secretary to fumble the ball. Then, Obama met with the president of Mexico, again, and, no doubt, offered to sue a couple more states. Obama took one question from the American press and it was something to do with an NFL union dispute. Now, the president is off on the campaign trail and planning his basketball party.

    Confusing, to say the least. Libya? What?

    Sentient Americans are left wondering whether President Obama fully
    intends to keep the mad-dog Gaddafi in power — no matter what.
    ]

    ==

  • retire05

    MamaGrizzly, it’s not Libyan oil for China Obama is trying to protect, it is Libyan oil for France. Sarkozy took a drubbing with the elections of the socialists, and he had to have a “rally ’round the flag” moment to up his own approval rating. So what better to do that than to show what stalwarts of “freedom” the French are? And Obama, who is clueless to the fact that Sarkozy thinks he is a twit, goes right along with the UN passing a resolution that totally violates their (the UN) own charter. And agrees to pick up the tab.

    Now, the left who are trying to sweep the Obamanure under the rug will say that Obama has War Powers Act powers, but he doesn’t. Not when there is not an immediate threat to the U.S., and Libya posed no immediate threat to us.

    And have you noticed that Obama has spoken more on the less than 200 Libyans that have been killed by Qdaffy troops than he has about all the soldiers we have lost in Afghanistan and Iraq under his watch?

  • Chisum

    Dinoright @ #22,

    A “flicker” of al Qaeda. New military word?

    http://lucianne.com/images/lucianne/DailyPhoto/2011-03-31-QZRSA.jpg

  • Dave-O

    retire05 #34 – you are correct. But not just Libyan oil for France and Great Britain – German companies have huge oil interests in Libya and they are playing the game the other way.

    All of Europe (notably italy, France and Great Britain) fear a massive influx of North Africans on top of what they already have if Gaddafi succeeds –

    see: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/31/italys-boat-people/?test=latestnews

    this is all about oil for Europe and preventing a huge emigration from North Africa – they are using the “humanitarian” tag only as a fig leaf

  • Dave-O

    Let me see if I’ve got this straight:

    1) Over 1800 combat sorties flown in Libya;

    2) Approximately 220 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Launched into Libya @ $600,000 each;

    3) 2 F-15 fighter jets lost so far @ $35 million each;

    4)Libyan Rebels Supported: ~1000
    You do the math.

  • Bill Duhemel

    Of course, none of this is actually stated in any of the linked articles. The 1000 number is from a man who was a jihadist eleven years ago. Where he gets that number is completely unexplained. And as for “at least two hundred more” – the article actually states that “some of the 200 or so Libyans operating near the Afghan border may be on their way home.” So that’s “some” of the two hundred who “may” be on their way.

  • bg

    ++

    ps re: #32

    [“Our confrontation with America was like a fight against a fortress from outside.” After speaking with Minister Farrakhan, however, “we found a breach to enter into this fortress and confront it.” Colonel Qaddafi promised that as it battles America from the inside, the NOI will eventually fulfill one of its fondest dreams: establishing a black state within America’s borders. Ever the military man, the Libyan leader also predicted that this new state will boast the “biggest black army on the planet.”]

    bit more here and here and connecting links, and there’s still tons more..

    ==

  • Thingamajig

    Oh boy…A new central *labian* bank and an oil deal:
    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/wow-that-was-fast-libyan-rebels-have-already-established-a-new-central-bank-of-libya

    and this was supposedly done by an incompetent, disorganized, ragtag “army”?
    (Yeah, right.)

  • Dave-O

    Let me see if I’ve got this straight:

    1) Over 1800 combat sorties flown in Libya;

    2) Approximately 220 Tomahawk cruise missiles launched into Libya @ $600,000 each;

    3) Two F-15 fighter jets lost (so far) @ $35 million each;

    4) How many Libyan rebels supported as a result? 1,000??? Are you kidding me?

    Can somebody help me with the math here?? Am I missing something? Hello?

  • Dave-O

    #37 – was error of hitting tab key – sorry for the duplicate post –

  • bg

    ++

    Dave-O #37

    not to worry, critical counters
    are keeping score.. rotflmbo!!

    ==

  • The foreign policy team of Obama, Clinton, Abbot, Costello, Laurel, Hardy, and Marx exceeding expectations.

    d(^_^)b
    http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
    “Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive”

  • bg

    ++

    follow the links & money

    ie: Obama Gives Chrysler To Libya & Muammar Gaddafi and much more,
    or not, i mean, i’ve posted the links for days now, ergo.. if you haven’t seen
    them by now, you probably never will..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    Thingamajig #40

    they also have a National Transitional Council..

    thanks..

    btw, the US of Allah, uh, America is in with SHARIA BANKING (much more
    here please scroll up/down & click on connecting links for more, thank you]

    ==

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  • pj

    This is just attempt to make us feel sorry for the poor rebels………

  • MamaGrizzly

    Dave-O commented:

    Let me see if I’ve got this straight:

    1) Over 1800 combat sorties flown in Libya;

    2) Approximately 220 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Launched into Libya @ $600,000 each;

    3) 2 F-15 fighter jets lost so far @ $35 million each;

    4)Libyan Rebels Supported: ~1000

    You do the math.

    THANKS Dave O. That is so sick, it’s just staggering. And, just another fun and frolicsome way for Obama to drain the economic resources of USA–cuz’ the stimulus plans weren’t enough, and cuz’ the military still has WAY TOO MUCH in the way of weapons stored up. T

    You know, there is an urban legend among the bad Iranians and Arabs that if you take America down economically, we won’t care about Israel any more, and we won’t be able to do anything anywat, and therefore, the Iranians and their dumb cousins (the hardline Iranians think the Arabs are pathetics) can invade Israel and win. All depends on taking down the US in their minds. That was the original reason for 9-11. They thought the WTC was some sort of central economic hub of the US and US Govt, and if they could destroy it, they could destroy America from the inside out. A weak America, nay a limp America preoccupied with only its own survival, is what the end game is from their perspective. Ergo, Obama spending, spending, spending, then draining the military in Afghanistan, Iraq, and now Libya.

    Retire05, I understand about France and Germany, and that they do want the oil, but I wouldn’t dismiss China just yet. Obama would love to create the same system here, and Soros is waiting to make a killing on an economically emerging and dominant China.

    You also said: ” . . . but Obama did NOT say WHAT political winds. The political winds in the ME is definately changing, and he seems to be siding with those that have strong jihadist leanings. Again, never listen to what Obama says; pay attention to what he does and right now he is supporting Libyan rebels when he doesn’t even know who they are.”

    Totally agree (pay attention to what he DOES not what he says), except that, OBAMA DOES know EXACTLY who they are. It’s just that he was counting on a stronger showing and much more action, from many more players, much more quickly than materialized. Never thought I’d be rooting (sort of) for Ghadaffi. Ha!

    Also, Obama’s reference to siding with the Moslems is a very definite “drawing the line” both figuratively and literally, with Israel and even the United States, which to him, is an “enemy state” actually. He’s saying who’s side he’s on (the Moslem side), and he has backed that up in every situation.

    It’s all about goal one: weakening the US into nothingness (Soros is happy to oblige) in order to take out Israel and install a strong Communist/Socialist economic/social platform, and goal two: installing himself as a supreme leader in the best respect that he can achieve, either here or there, wherever “there” is, as long as he’s in charge. That’s why the Bamster is making “friends” all over the world since he’s not sure he can stay here when it’s all over.

    We need to make sure he can’t stay here in 2012. But even so, the worst thing is, now he knows ALL our secrets, has put his buddies into the FBI, CIA, Czar shadow government, and who knows where else. I believe this whole thing is much bigger than anyone realizes.

  • pj

    #40
    This wouldn’t be the bank,our federal government bail out with taxpayers money?

  • jainphx

    Someone has to answer a question I have or maybe two!

    1) If all the European countries have signed oil leases with Quaddfi, why would they want him out? The Rebels, if they are Al Qaeda, what insurance do they have that they will honor the contracts.
    2) How do you threaten the “rebels” that they to will be bombed if they don’t stop killing civilians, just who’s side are we on? This is all just crazy confusing, what the hell is going on here?

  • bg
  • bg

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    jainphx #52

    where does it state they were killing civilians??

    and what proof, if any, do they have?? thanks..

    ==

  • bg

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    S. Wolf #55

    lol, Labia is right next to Libya, which is soon to be split in half,
    one side for the rich oil dudes, the other slave labor, oh wait..

    and they gave GWB hell for not being able
    to pronounce names like Kyrgyzstan.. 😛

    ==

  • Justine

    So, the first week, it’s estimated the US spent $600 million? Divide by 1000 rebels, that’s $600,000 a rebel. And we’re broke.
    .

  • bg

    It goes with corpseman. 🙂

  • AuntieMadder

    I remember back when I would be shocked by news like this. Now, after news like this coming at me daily for so long, I’ve become hardened and jaded. I was much more sensitive way back in 2009.

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  • bg

    ++

    “Resignation leads to apathy. Apathy leads to inertia. Inertia leads to
    indifference. Indifference paralyzes the instinct for self-defense, that
    is, the instinct to fight back”. – Oriana Fallaci

    ergo, well all is said & done, quality is much more beneficial than quantity..

    ==

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  • Quoted from & linked to at my place:
    http://zillablog.marezilla.com/2011/04/libyan-lunacy-linkaround.htm
    Libyan Lunacy Linkaround