If White House Was Surprised by Applause at Tucson Pep Rally… Why Did They Ask For It On Jumbotron?

On Thursday, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said that they were surprised by the applause at the memorial pep rally on Wednesday for the victims of the Tucson shootings.

I will say that I read the speech several times and thought that there wouldn’t be a lot of applause if any. I think many of us thought that. But I think there was a celebration, again, of the lives of those who had been impacted. Not just at that grocery store but throughout the country. And I think that, if that is part of the healing process, then that’s a good thing.

Oh really?
Then why was it printed on the Jumbotron?

(Flickr)
Hat Tip Chad
The Jumbotron at the arena on Wednesday included applause lines.
(This photo replaces an earlier image after a request by the photographer.)

UPDATE:
More here and here.

UPDATE: Conservative Guy Benson gives the White House some slack and exonerates them from the accusations.

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  • Dave in Houston

    Is it me, or is our Prez looking a bit old and gray these days?

  • Granny

    #1 Dave in Houston

    TheWon dyes his hair gray to look more “presidential”, give him more “gravitas.” If you follow the pics of him you can actually see when he has had a fresh dye job.

  • Carbon Pootprint

    Never let a crisis go to waste. Let’s get the Cloward and Piven hearings going.

  • For the deaf ?

  • VBHokie

    A friend of mine pointed this out, and I think he is right, that looks like the text from closed captioning.

  • succotash

    Imho the whole event was staged from the get-go. There was nothing reverend about it(the cheering,the t-shirts) just another sham by this Scamelot admin.

  • valerie

    Does closed captioning often include audience reaction?

  • bear

    If that message on the screen is not a prank, then we can never trust the sincerity or honesty of this fool in our WH. If that screen shot (whoops….figurative) is accurate, the obamster takes self-serving to a new low. If that photo is real, his contempt for our people is monumental.

  • Rightdawg

    This is disgusting. More lies from the Obama Regime. Obama’s new book should be entitled:

    “The Audacity Of Starting My 2012 Re-Election Campaign On The Graves Of Six People”

    Hoft, this picture needs to go viral.

    Members of this community, please send the link to this picture to everyone you know!

  • the hypocricy of this administration is unbelievable. they only claimed the applause was spontaneous because it was being criticized. now they have been caught again. normal people would be embarrassed at being caught in a lie, not this crowd.

  • Is there any confirmation that this is not photoshopped? Because if it is not, and this is legitimate, then there is a whole other level of outrage that needs to be released on this President and his party.

  • Sandy

    It doesn’t matter to Obama that we figured out he used an applause meter. He managed to fool Krauthammer and the Fox crowd and that was the whole idea.

    I heard on Hannity last night that Obama wants the members of Congress to sit together instead being seated on the left or right depending on their Party. This is another game he’s playing to make it look like he is the boss and everyone else agrees with him. Meanwhile, 14 Trillion in debt, oil to hit $100.00 a barrel and the economy continues its nose dive. AND THE BEAT GOES ON….

  • trailortrash

    unfreakinbelievable, definitely needs to go viral.

  • Tom

    That is the last word of a sentence and the applause comes after the closed captioning. Give me a break guys…move on.

  • IMPEACH OBAMA

    Remember when America had a REAL President?

  • olm

    It looks like closed captioning to me, but it really doesn’t matter. That was a tasteless 2012 campaign kickoff.

  • Continuing to cement his deserving reputation as The. Worst. President. Ever. on a daily basis.

  • notagain

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/patrieningles/5353520133/in/photostream/

    You can see the whole day of event if you scroll through.
    The “closed caption” excuse, all you have to do is look around and you could see people clapping or not, unless your blind. But then, why the closed caption.

  • cal rifkin

    lying mofos

  • Simon

    If the only choice you had was Obama, would you go all Obama on his ass?

  • Noah

    I really hate this administration. They aren’t even capable of telling the truth when they know its
    going to get out that they lied.

    What the Heck is wrong with them seriously?

  • donh

    All that was missing was a game of Plinko for a Winnebago.

  • i8bugs

    This IS closed captioning. It often does contain reaction. In a movie for example, it will note background laughter, music playing, etc. With that being said however, the applause and vocal adoration of Obama were tasteless and disrespectful. The pres. seemed unhappy with it but lacks the skills (on a number of levels) to insert one simple sentence into his speech to put a stop to it.

  • Joe Redfield

    I wonder if Malia or Sasha will write their memoirs years from now and reveal that during his entire time in the White House their father was an ill-progammed robot?

  • sara

    I thought the cheering and shout outs were classless, but I would guess that someone was providing close captioning real time, most likely on a slight delay. The president wasn’t reading the speech off the jumbo-tron, obviously. I could be wrong, but past experience is telling me that’s what was going on.

  • Political Baron

    Really? Has it come to this. Its close captioning. Stop trying to make something out of nothing. The memorial service was for the nation. Republicans were present including McCain and Brewer. The tshirts were prepared by the university for the students. Are we all on the same page now. Stop being so ridiculously petty.

    Why don’t you use your feigned outrage on Boehner for deciding to skip the memorial to attend a cocktail fundraiser.

  • Maria A

    While we continue playing all these fun and games, China keeps advancing and we keep falling behind. Enough! Let’s not fall into this trap of consuming ourselves with all this petty stuff and diverionary tactics initiated by the liberals and this White House. This past week they succesfully made Topic A of conversation “civility” and reeled the doofus Republicans into that conversation, while the bad news regarding oil prices, inflation and increase in unemployment claims go unnoticed. People, Let’s wake up !

  • bigL

    When is The USA going to wake up and see we elected Eddie Haskell as the President.(From Leave it to beaver tv show)
    That was the smart aleck friend of the two kids that would be phony polite to the adults and then say: ‘Heh heh really fooled your old man Wally!’
    Except not for a lot of Dads and Moms.
    Remember all these add-ons: the cameras for the Jumbotron, the tee-shirts in boxes, the staff to put them out, the kids in the stands, the remarks of he colege president the seating arrangements on the floor. all this had to be checked out in advance by The secret Service and the White House staffers for the rest of it.
    Nothing was happenstance, all rehearsed and vetted. No accidents. All very creepy, and kind of cold-blooded. Americans are not like that.

  • dwd

    I hate to defend the administration, but if that text on the jumbotron is for hearing impaired people then the [Applause] is telling the hearing impaired people that the crowd is applauding, not instructing the crowd to applaud. Just like on TV, when it says in the closed captioning [music plays] or [crowd whispers]. It all comes down to timing, which a still image can’t tell you — did [Applause] appear before or after the applause? Most likely after.

  • retire05

    That is a “closed caption.” And I am sure that off to the side was a signer who used sign language to let the deaf people know what was being said. Not withstanding that the entire audience seems to be deaf to the fact this was supposed to be a memorial, not a pep rally kicking off Obama’s next campaign.

    Is this what we parents pony up tons of money to send our kids to college for?

  • donh

    I wonder if he brought the surf boards to play in the pool. … http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leq421jLEJ1qzx587o1_500.jpg

  • donh
  • DigitalTroglodyte

    Uncle Sugar wants him some interest for borrowed unemployment benefit money. Remember when governors were criticized for not wanting to take the money. Looks like Vinny’s gonna do sum collectin’. You got a problem wit dat!

  • Kevin

    It is indeed closed captioning. But I wonder if a large percentage of those in attendance did not REALIZE it was closed captioning and like the sheeple they are followed the instructions given to them by the Won from on high.

    [Applause] “C’mon everyone, clap! He wants us to show him how much we love him!”

    I mean, this was a college campus, you really cannot expect a high degree of intelligence in such a venue.

  • patman

    Obama sux!
    [applause]

  • Taxpayer1234

    Yes, it looks like closed-captioning to me, also.

  • patman

    Donh,

    I called that the other day. I totally called that!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Kevin

    @DigitalTroglodyte

    Uh-oh!! They didn’t mention the vig did they LOL.

  • dhmosquito

    Hey, maybe Obama can get a Jumbotron installed in the Capitol for the State of the Union Address. Think of all the jobs he can claim its installation created!

  • Ariel

    A friend of mine pointed this out, and I think he is right, that looks like the text from closed captioning. VBHokie

    VB,

    It probably is the text from closed captioning. The text of the speech was most likely preloaded into the Jumbotron in the same way Obama’s speeches are preloaded into his teleprompter, which is commonly referred to as “TOTUS”. Hence the locations of the “(applause)s” were planned out in advance so the operator would know when to pause without breaking the continuity of the speech by allowing the closed captions to continue even while the President waited for the applause to die down. So as with everything else in regards to Obama’s appearances, you can bet it was carefully scripted, including the applause breaks.

    This naturally begs the question. If Obama was surprised by the number of applause breaks, how come they were preloaded into the copy of the speech given to the Jumbotron operator? Just askin’. Don’t imply nothing by it, like maybe the memorial service was meant as the inaugural event for Obama’s 2012 reelection campaign. That would also explain the tee shirts handed out which reportedly say “Rock the Vote” on their tags. Not implying anything here, just wondering.

    It could be that they just didn’t want to “let a good crisis go to waste”, you know, by just saying kind words about the dearly departed. Hard to gain any political traction by simply honoring the lives of those who had died or had been wounded in the senseless shooting. Besides, without the “applause” sign in the closed caption, how would the deaf know how incredibly popular the president’s speech was? Like, if a tree falls in the forest, and nobody hears; will they still vote democrat?

  • Slappy

    Political Baron (#26): “Really? Has it come to this. Its close captioning. Stop trying to make something out of nothing. The memorial service was for the nation. Republicans were present including McCain and Brewer. The tshirts were prepared by the university for the students. Are we all on the same page now. Stop being so ridiculously petty.

    Why don’t you use your feigned outrage on Boehner for deciding to skip the memorial to attend a cocktail fundraiser.

    I think it was closed captioning, too, but do you really think “The memorial service was for the nation”? I’m sorry if I’m a little skeptical based on how everything transpired at the memorial that the White House didn’t decide to use this to help his political fortunes, too. As for the t-shirt excuse, puh-lease. The White House advance team could have stopped the distribution of those if they wanted to and they could have asked that the event be held at a different location to more appropriately honor the moment. Or they could have done two different events, one an actual memorial service at a different location and the other this unity event or whatever it was called. Considering the staging Obama & Co. are known for when he has made speeches in the past, I don’t know why you and others keep acting like the White House would just go along with a setting for an Obama speech that they didn’t agree with. Also, the fact that “Republicans were present” doesn’t mean anything, considering Republicans were also at the Wellstone memorial service in 2002.

    As for the Boehner dig, that’s been thoroughly debunked. The House of Representatives held a vigil for the victims of the shootings on Wednesday. With Pelosi on her way to Arizona with Obama, Boehner opted to stay in Washington to attend the House vigil. If Boehner had accepted Obama’s invitation, then leaders of both parties would have missed the vigil. I can see him either going to Tucson for the “memorial” or not based on those circumstances so stop trying to pretend that he did nothing to honor the victims and simply went to a previously scheduled “cocktail fundraiser.” Moreover, his attendance at the “cocktail fundraiser” involved him speaking for just three minutes before leaving to watch Obama’s speech on television. But you left out those details. Seems to me that what you’re trying to do to Boehner is also “ridiculously petty” considering you came in here and tried to pretend that you’re the unbiased voice of reason on this matter.

  • Jen

    I am no fan of Obama but that is closed captioning.

  • Floyd Looney

    99.9% of the ralliers at the “memorial” didn’t know the victims from a bowl of beans

  • Marsh

    Deaf people don’t need to be told that thousands of people are vigorously clapping right next to them. They can feel the vibrations and see it.

  • pat

    Very good catch. And it shows two things: the duplicitous nature of Gibbs and his cronies in the MSM who cover for obama, and the utter lack of taste or common decency in obama.

  • Dont you know that all Memorials start out with leaving a T-SHIRT and PAMPHLET on every chair?

    Come on, this attempt by FOX to be extremely complimentary is nauseating..

    If Obama would have taken control of the audience by simply letting them know this was a MEMORIAL FOR MURDERED CITIZENS….Ya think that would have worked?

    But nope, he continued on and allowed the disrespect to continue…If I was related to any one that had been killed? I would have walked out and not quietly;

    This President is a Joke, The left is the absolute enemy, and frankly I see zero reason to ever associate with any of them?

    You are right or wrong….THEY ARE 100% wrong

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  • Kevin

    @ss252

    Of course the narcissistic bastage didn’t stop them, he drinks in mindless adulation like water, it’s his life’s blood.

  • cnation

    As others have said, most likely closed captioning reflecting the audience’s reaction.

    To Marsh: There was a also Jumbotron feed to the U of A football stadium to handle the overflow crowd who weren’t able to get into the memorial center.

    -c

  • tim simmons
  • shbumi

    I’m kind of surprised by the Jumbotron.

    Since when do they use Jumbotron’s for memorials? That seems like really bad taste in itself.

  • TxBitty
  • shbumi

    Also… I don’t think that closed captioning is actually fed into a computer, like TOTUS. During live events, I believe it’s done live, and typically does include audience reaction. I also think that the closed captioning person works independent of everyone else, and is a high trained typist. Typically, there’s a bit of a lag with it as well.

  • DINORight

    I agree with Ariel. Everything done by this president and administration is closely scripted. Michelle Obama, in her “open letter to parents” about the Tuscon tragedy, said, “we made sure everyone received t-shirts” for attending the rally/memorial. They knew about the theme, the t-shirts, everything. Faux surprise by the POTUS – who’d have thought it?!

    The admistration (taking their Dem advisor’s recommendation to use this to improve the Obama public image) both scripted and planned the content, even if UA managed the event. There is no way any president would agree to speak at an event and not have total control over the message.

    I can’t say that these were captioned live, for hearing impaired viewers, or if the comments were pre-loaded. Regardless, the entire event was an Obama affair, and was thus under their control and management. The OFA had the message, but someone had to pay for the swag and signage. You can be sure that no university would agree to pay for all that just to host the POTUS for a free event. No matter how much kool-aid the university president and faculty drank, they have a budget that is tight.

  • Andreas K.

    Political Baron (#26)

    This “memorial service” was a joke.

    Where was a similar one afte the Fort Hood Massacre? And for the nation? T-shirts? Ppre-loading a speech into a different system than the telemprompter, with notes when to applause? Really now? That’s for the nation?

    This wasn’t for the nation, this was a photo op.

    For the nation?

    Hey now, how many people have died on US streets in mere traffic accidents since then? How many people have been stabbed to death? How many children have been aborted since then?

    Tell me. How was this “for the nation”?

    It was a photo op. Nothing else.

    But seriously, tell me “Baron”, where was this kind of attention after the Fort Hood Massacre? Tell me.

  • aprilnovember811

    “Jumbotron?” Was it a hockey game? I’m horrified by this. I’m so sick of people slapping this despotic Kenyan on the back just because he gives on speech they admired. Everything else that came with it was horrifying. This is not the way you behave at a memorial service. Obama is obviously not someone who attended any real church or service. Reverend Wright doesn’t count. That church is like Jim Jones of the Peoples Temple Church. Only for tax purposes. Just like the race extortionist Sharpton and Jackson. This is Dr. Jack Wheeler’s take on Obama’s speech.

    “Further, the most accurate description of his beautiful speech is that “it was a sermon to himself.”

    When he advises:

    “At a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized — at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who happen to think differently than we do — it’s important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we’re talking with each other in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds.”

    He’s really advising himself – for who more than he has contributed to our polarized discourse, by blaming everything on George Bush, by describing those who don’t vote for him as “bitter clingers,” and Republicans as “hostage takers” and the “enemies” of America? We can only hope he takes his own advice.”

    You can read the entire article at Tothepointnews.com

  • bammit

    “Is it me, or is our Prez looking a bit old and gray these days?”

    Every president goes gray in office. Look at pics of Clinton and Bush from their inagurations and compare to the day they left office. The job has that effect.

  • bitterclinger

    If I were to give him the benefit of a doubt that it even crossed his mind to tell the audience to show a little respect for the dead by withholding applause, I wonder if part of him wondered if they’d even OBEY him and embarrass him even more. As we’ve seen for the past two years — it’s all about him.

  • AuntieMadder

    Doh!

  • Chisum

    Oh this is rich!

    Jesse Jackson Jr.: View Tucson as act of terrorism

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47614.html

    But the Ft. Hood shooting/massacre was attributed to “workplace violence”.

    These people are beyond shameless. They are disgusting.

    It’s impossible to have a sane conversation with insane people.

  • Hopie Changey

    It’s obvious to me that the idiot staffer who loaded the speech onto whichever media they used to prep it for the closed captioning was in too big a hurry to edit it before handing it over.

    It just shows once again the incompetence at the helm, no matter how high or low on the totem pole. The lack of crowd control began with the University President and went all the way to POTUS, who could have admonished the crowd at any time to tone it down for the occasion.

    Politics of self at its worst.

  • bg

    ++

    they’re insufferably arrogant believing they can fool all of the people all of
    the time, and guess what, their reverse psychology is working better than
    even they expected.. i mean what have “we the people” actually changed
    since being taken over by the deranged??

    and we ain’t seen nothin’ yet!! 😐

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    oh btw, here they come again..

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    “keep looking at the trees while the forest grows around you”.. bg

    ==

  • NMH

    Andreas:

    “Where was a similar one afte [sic] the Fort Hood Massacre?”

    Um, well, here’s the 15 minute televised speech the President made at Ft. Hood:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYFnRtTtXbo

    It was on a military base so the audience was far more respectful than a bunch of college students in Arizona but there *was* a public, televised memorial at which the President spoke at length.

  • The enlightener

    It’s not the truth, sheep. Critical thinking…use it. http://yesbuthowever.com/debunking-the-tucson-applause-sign-5000243/

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  • bg

    ++

    NMH #65

    yes, and he didn’t put name on the cause of the massacre, as a matter
    of fact, he totally ignored the reason those people were mowed down..

    namely RADICAL ISLAMISM..

    NOTHING, NOT ONE WORD OF ABOUT
    THE ASSASSIN NOR HIS MOTIVATION

    however..

    [As we will always be grateful for what George and Laura Bush did this
    week, with no media attention, when they very quietly went to Ft. Hood
    and met personally with the families of the victims of this terrorist attack.

    FOR HOURS.

    The Bushes went and met privately with these families
    for HOURS, hugging them, holding them, comforting them.

    If there are any of you out there with any connection at all to the Bushes,
    we implore you to give them our thanks…you tell them that a bunch of gay
    Hillary guys in Boystown, Chicago were wrong about the Bushes…and are
    deeply, deeply sorry for any jokes we told about them in the past, any bad
    thoughts we had about these good, good people.

    You may be as surprised by this as we are ourselves, but from this day
    forward George W. and Laura Bush are now on the same list for us as the
    Clintons, the Palins, and other political figures we keep in our hearts and
    never allow anyone to badmouth.

    Criticize their policies academically and intelligently and discuss the Bush
    presidency in historical and political terms…but you mess with the Bushes
    personally and, from this day forward, you’ll answer to us.

    We hope someday to be able to thank George W. and Laura in person for
    all they’ve done, and continue to do. They didn’t have to head to Ft. Hood.
    That was not their responsibility.

    The Obamas should have done that.

    But didn’t.

    Wouldn’t.

    Thank goodness George W. is still on his
    watch, with wonderful Laura at his side.]

    ==

  • Ugh. I thought the recycled t-shirt slogans were as low as this would go!

    http://zillablog.marezilla.com/2011/01/recycled-obama-slogan-used-at-pop-fest.html

    It seems the disgusting levels that these creeps will sink to is from a bottomless ghoul pit!

  • Paladin

    The liar in chief actually led the applause a couple times.

  • bg

    ++

    The enlightener #66

    “critical thinking” huh..

    then why does the supposedly “critically thinking”
    author himself call it a RALLY vs a MEMORIAL??

    slip, spin, slip, spin, clap, oh wait..

    seems to me the author was more critical than thinking…

    and here i thought it was supposed to be a somber memorial, which took
    place 3 days later, while the bodies were still warm & above ground so to
    speak, go figure..

    ==

  • jimg

    Political Baron wrote: Why don’t you use your feigned outrage on Boehner for deciding to skip the memorial to attend a cocktail fundraiser.

    Immediately after he/she wrote: Stop being so ridiculously petty.
    —–

    Physician. Heal thyself.

  • squeaky

    well atleast he didn’t see a need to give any shout outs this time……. http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/A-Disconnected-President.html

  • creeper

    So if it’s closed captioning for the DEAF, why did it have to point out the fact that the audience was applauding? They’re DEAF, not blind.

  • I am a closed captioner and I was working that evening and captioned this event for one of our clients. (There are many stations that ran this live, so I doubt I was actually producing the captions seen in the shot.) But I try to use [APPLAUSE] when cameras aren’t showing an audience reaction, as the shot of Obama above demonstrates. It’s not always successful because captioners usually work off of an audio feed that isn’t time-delayed. Our video is not, so knowing whether the camera will cut away or not is guesswork. But you want the deaf or hard-of-hearing to know why the speaker is no longer speaking, if you can. That’s what this is. It’s descriptive, not proscriptive.

    It is long past time for a correction on this story, Mr. Hoft.

  • bg

    ++

    Zilla of the Resistance #69

    more here and here and several others before after and in between..

    thanks..

    ==

  • pam

    I’m confused only the applause was in closed caption??( Was the whole speech shown on the jumbotron??) if so why ?? People who are hearing impaired and either attending the memorial or watching from home could read right along with the rest . So was the closed caption just to let the hearing impaired know there was applause??? Pam

  • The Explainer

    I write liberal blogs for a living and I have to say something: (explanation of all things)

    There. It’s far past time for me to start typing in: (Matthews does slow erotic gyration)

  • Chris K

    Remember, this is the same guy who staged the Democratic National Convention stage to look like this:

    http://pictures.thaindian.com/d/4297-2/barack-Obama-82577832.jpg

  • Joanne

    Applause at a memorial service? This is all so distasteful – beyond comprehension. I would imagine Obama believes he is so important and invincible, considering no one can seem to oust the usurper. I wonder if his head is as big as Hitler’s yet, or perhaps Obama’s head was bigger to begin with.

  • A little more information: I’m sure that it wasn’t my captions now because of caption placement on the screen. The client I was working for puts the captions elsewhere.

    However, I would bet $50 that the Jumbotron feed is simulcasting the UATV 3 feed, the U of AZ’s public access channel. That would be closed captioned, and the Jumbotron was just airing captions going out live on UATV 3. The main audience is the TV audience, but the captions are being provided for the crowd as well.

  • Joanne

    Chris K – you’d think any normal person would be embarrassed by that stage. Obama is such a loser.

  • bg

    ++

    Joseph Nobles #75

    oh please, the feigned offense is nauseating..

    Obama’s “hired hands” didn’t need a jumbotron, flash cards, etc.. to cue
    clapping, cheers, or anything else, that is the bottom line & you know it..

    ==

  • Miss Marple

    Why was this venue (the basketball arena) approved by the advance team? Why did they approve the shirts? Who in the advance team thought it was ok to have the concession stands open? And why didn’t the president stop the applause, which he could easily have done?

  • Chisum

    Oh boy.

    About Joseph Nobles:

    I was born and educated in Alabama (two years in Mississippi, two grad years in Tennessee). I’ve been an actor most of my life, got to sail around the world, and now I produce captions for live TV. I hate misinformation and the vultures who feed off it wherever I find them. I’ve been debunking 9/11 conspiracy theories since September 2002, I’m the evil liberal scumbag your preacher warned you about, and I’m gay.

  • azmom

    It does look like close captioning to me too so maybe they didn’t *ask* for the applause, but since this was SUPPOSED to be a memorial service, Obama could have asked the crowd to stop applauding which he did not.

  • @Chisum – Yes, that’s me. None of that changes the truth about what I said, and the likelihood of my educated guess about the source of the captions being true. It’s a TV feed being piped into the studio with TV closed captioning being turned on for the convenience of the hard of hearing in the crowd. It’s not instructions for the crowd.

  • bg

    ++

    Chisum #85

    not fond of that sort of personal exposure even when the source is oneself..
    hence, i am going to do the same thing i did when someone supposedly aired
    Tom W’s dirty laundry, and pay no attention to it..

    ==

  • Chisum

    BG,

    Dirty Laundry? It’s from HIS OWN WEB SITE, WHICH HE LINKED TO?

    How is that dirty laundry?

  • Here are some more people applauding someone at a memorial you can all hate on:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUSsPZfWqHQ

    And with that, Gateway Pundit crowd, good evening!

  • bg

    ++

    Miss Marple #84

    hah, pay no attention to those petinent factors, it’s all
    about Nobles and his knowledge of Jumbotrons.. /sarc/

    “keep looking at the trees while the forest grows around you”.. bg

    ==

  • valerie

    About the origin of those slogans on the t-shirts distributed at the memorial service turned pep rally.

    http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/01/14/together-we-thrive-a-manufactured-memorial-with-a-marxist-message/

  • Thanks, bg, I try to stay on top of the posts here at GP since it’s such a great source for information & I share most of them to that page I run on facebook, but sometimes I miss something.

  • valerie

    #87 January 15, 2011 at 2:49 pm
    Joseph Nobles commented:

    @Chisum – Yes, that’s me. None of that changes the truth about what I said, and the likelihood of my educated guess about the source of the captions being true. It’s a TV feed being piped into the studio with TV closed captioning being turned on for the convenience of the hard of hearing in the crowd. It’s not instructions for the crowd.

    **************

    So, Mr. Nobles, you admit that you are speculating. Why should your speculation be considered the basis for an apology? You have figured out an innocent explanation, which is fine, but it is no basis to demand an apology. And you know it.

  • WHOOPS! Apparently Ms. Minnelli sings “New York, New York” a lot. Here’s the one I really mean to post:

    http://realdirtymets.com/2010/09/11/video-liza-minnelli-sings-new-york-new-york-at-sheas-1st-game-after-911/

    That was 10 days after 9/11. What were those people thinking?

    Now that I’ve fixed my mistake, I’ll leave you to your denial. Having seen it a lot in the 9/11 Truth community, I see no more need to watch it go on here.

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  • bg

    ++

    Chisum #89

    believe i noted that..

    self inflicted or not, fact remains, it’s still
    an ObamAlinsky attack & smear tactic..

    not to mention (imo stupid) distraction..

    whatever he is, makes no natter to me, it’s
    what he says & does, same as with Obama..

    ==

  • Mr. Potato Head

    “Yes We Can” make a mockery out of a memorial.

  • bg
  • Chisum

    BG,

    Alinsky? This weirdo claims to be an expert on 911, closed captioning, acting, sailing……

    I point it out and that’s an Alinsky-like tactic? A smear tactic?

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  • BJKay

    There was a Jumbotron because there were 26,000 people in the arena and a great many of them could not even see the stage. Thus the Jumbotron. The [Applause] sign is from closed captioning. Pelosi also attended the vigil in Washington, then hopped Air Force One at the President’s invitation and attended the memorial in Tucson. Boehner could have done the same. The reason people think he was at a fund raiser is because his office announced that he was at a fund raiser but left before the President began his remarks. Do you think the White House knew the University was handing out T-shirts? I doubt anyone would think to tell them, but if they did, I imagine they thought it was none of their business.

  • AuntieMadder

    Joseph Nobles #90: Idiot, that’s from a celebration of the Statue of Liberty. Its anniversary, that is, not its death. Unlike Minelli’s career, the Statue of Liberty hasn’t died.

  • AuntieMadder

    Joseph Nobles #95: I’ll spare myself another dose of Minelli and trust that your description of the clip is correct and that IT’S A BASEBALL GAME and not a memorial. Idiot.

  • David

    Blaming Obama for closed captioning… you people blame Obama if your oatmeal is cold in the morning.

  • bg

    ++

    Chisum #100

    ask me if i give a flying bats guano..

    i reply to what people write in their posts, not their personal lives..

    ==

  • Jon

    Closed captioning is a liberal plot to control the grammar.

  • AuntieMadder

    BJKay #105:
    In the controversy of the pep rally/rock concert style Memorial for those who lost their lives in Saturday’s Arizona tragedy, the mainstream media reported that the “Together We Thrive: Tucson & America” T-shirt given to mourners as they entered McKale Center was the idea of University of Arizona brass, not the Obama administration.

    Yet the “Together We Thrive” slogan dates back to a post to Obama’s own Organizing for America in a Feb. 11, 2008 post by self-described “globalist” John Berry IV.

    More than passing strange that the Obama campaign message of civility was the same on Feb. 11, 2008 as it was in his Wednesday Memorial speech, and the same one, too carried by the mainstream media in coverage of the Memorial.

    (snip)

    University of Arizona brass did not originate the “Together We Thrive” T-shirt. They merely recycled it for Obama—and recycled it in time for what should have been a dignified Memorial for the dead.

    If you were a mourner who took home a “Together We Thrive” T-shirt have a look at the bottom of your shirt. “Rocking America and Rocking the Vote” is a common theme of the DNC, and it’s right there on your Memorial T-shirt memento.
    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/32138

    Coincidence? Sure. Whatever.

  • bg

    ++

    David #105

    buy a clue already..

    i’m not “blaming” Obama for anything.. just
    pointing out his audacious pretentiousness..

    ==

  • Radegunda

    Nobles,
    If Republicans had not applauded while all the Dems around them were clapping, whooping, cheering, the Dems would have been outraged, OUTRAGED, at their surliness. If Boehner had been there, the Dems would have booed, as they booed Gov. Brewer.

    Dems and particularly the Obama camp set the tone, with the leftover campaign T-shirts (which they have obviously lied about), the “Oooh, he’s so intellectual” introduction by the UA president (who made it about Obama, not the victims), and by making sure there would be lots of gullible college students all gaga over Obama to give him the hero’s welcome he craved.

    It was designed less to memorialize the victims than to top off the political theater that the Dems cynically manufactured out of a psychopath’s crime. It was the cherry on top of the exploitable tragedy that Mark Penn wished for Obama.

  • georgia guy

    You people are idiots. It is closed captioning, a service for the deaf. Our President made an inclusive, beautiful speech about being Americans, and all you morons can say is what a terrible president he is. Keep wallowing in your misery, you uneducated, low-information mouth-breathers.

  • Jilli

    Good lord you people are as gullible as the author is ridiculous.

    This is closed captioning. But …whatever floats your bitter boats. It just gives wingnuttia something else to gripe about.

    Grow up folks. I quite sure this comment won’t be published because it brings reality to the ridiculousness of the posting and the commenting. Facts just don’t matter in your worlds, it’s a pity…for you.

  • Swifty

    Those not close enough had to look at the JumboTron. I’m sure they were prodded to pump up the volume when they saw that (Applause) wording on the screen. Obama’s folks are sheep, as are most Americans, and they were doing what they were prompted to do. So, I guess if it’s not a prompt, then those in charge miscalculated and didn’t realize how much people are sheep. If they didn’t want applause, a simple statement up front could have put a stop to it before it ever happened. A simple one worded “Please” by Obama could have stopped it or at least muted it. Surely, the great speechmaker has done enough speeches to know how to play a crowd. It didn’t happen that way. It was a pep rally.

  • AuntieMadder

    The enlightener commented:
    It’s not the truth, sheep. Critical thinking…use it.
    http://yesbuthowever.com/debunking-the-tucson-applause-sign-5000243/

    Well, if John Romano says it’s closed captioning, then it must be closed captioning. /sarc

    If any one of you libtarded idiots can share a link to a clip of the jumbotron displaying closed captioning of the rally – uh, I mean of the memorial, displaying text other than
    “SCHOOL.
    [APPLAUSE]”
    as it appears above, then I’ll believe you. Until then, I’ll continue to believe that you’re as full of sh!t as that sack of dung that you put in the White House. Idiots.

  • AuntieMadder

    Jilli, you condescending twit, provide a link to a clip that displays text other than
    “SCHOOL.
    [APPLAUSE]”
    as it appears above, then I’ll believe you.

    Until then, you’re just another marcher in the parade of idiots that’s passed through here today. Smug idiot.

  • Heathcliff

    Sweet funny wingtards. Up in arms about….the closed captioning on the Jumbotron.

    Why is our children stoopid? Heh.

  • bg

    ++

    MEMORIAL / BASEBALL GAME

    ergo, i repeat..

    ==

  • PJ

    Yes, I used to do some closed captioning and you always put in significant sound effects in parens.

  • AuntieMadder

    georgia guy, idiots like yourself who calls others “idiots” bring shame upon other idiots…but they keep you around because they appear smart when next to you.

  • Radegunda

    georgia guy, keep talking about “morons” and “idiots” while your side keeps insisting that a psychopathic mass murderer was motivated by surveyor’s cross hairs on an electoral map that he us unlikely ever to have seen — and most of you probably never saw it until a week ago either.

    Don’t you know the difference between surveyor’s cross hairs and those of a rifle scope?

    The “cause” of the murders that the Dems are peddling is so ludicrous and so contrary to all demonstrable facts that those who keep pushing the meme must be either insane or deeply, irremediably dishonest.

  • Rock

    @ Joseph Nobles #87

    Well as you confirm you are the evil liberal scumbag my preacher warned me about, wrong, it was not mt preacher, but rather my Drill Sgt. and nothing has changed that would suggest otherwise.

  • georgia guy

    Wow, Auntie, that stung.
    You don’t know whether I’m smart, or not, because you don’t know me. It is easy to see, however, that the wingnuts jumped all over a perceived action by the President that was so clearly, easily recognized for what it was that it is hard to think of some of these posters as anything other than idiots, incapable or unwilling to think critically before jumping down Obama’s throat.

  • JEA

    Since you don’t know how close captioning works on a live broadcast. It is delayed. What is on the screen is what has ALREADY happened. Captioning only occurs at the same time for a PRE-RECORDED program.

    Perhaps you should actually do some, you know, RESEARCH before you post an article so you don’t look like a smack.

  • Jim

    The slogan for wingnuts should be “Belief first, information later”

    It’s hysterical. You all have already come to your conclusions, however stupid they may be (case in point, Obama is somehow instructing the crowd to applause) then, when confronted with you know, umm, actual facts, rather than admitting you were wrong, you just double down the way a child would.

  • Radegunda

    To all the libtrolls wagging a finger about jumping to conclusions:

    When will you admit that your scurrilous accusations against Palin and the Tea Parties and talk radio (as being the cause of the murders) have no basis whatsoever in any demonstrable facts?

    The more information emerges to disprove your knee-jerk, politically expedient theory, the more feverishly you spout it — and than you leftists have the gall to accuse Sarah Palin of “inserting herself into it” or “making it about herself”!

    When you falsely accuse people of having blood on their hands, and deliberately cling to your lies because it serves your political agenda, that’s incomparably worse than not knowing whether a Jumbotron was pre-fed.

  • bg

    ++

    “I will say that I read the speech several times and thought that there wouldn’t be a lot of applause if any. I think many of us thought that. But I think there was a celebration, again, of the lives of those who had been impacted. Not just at that grocery store but throughout the country. And I think that, if that is part of the healing process, then that’s a good thing.”

    ~ Robert Gibbs

    oh yes, the bodies were still warm & above ground, no one knows why it
    happened, everyone is pointing fingers at Palin, & the Tea Party, yet the
    entire politicized joint was a jumpin’ in “CELEBRATION” of Obama’s speech..

    if you swallow that, then you’re as sick as
    the sicko’s pouring it down your throats..

    ==

  • georgia guy

    Radegunda, I am not one of those who says Palin’s map motivated the shooter. There is no way to know that for sure. But do you REALLY think Palin, the gun promoting Mama Grizzly herself, thought, “We’ll, I’ll use surveyors crosshairs instead of a rifle scope target”? Do you think she even knows the difference? I’ll guarantee you this, 95% of the people that saw that map did NOT think surveryors’ crosshairs, they thought rifle scopes.

  • Jim

    Oh boy, I cannot wait for Monday night when Diva Palin goes on Fake News for her interview, I mean infomercial with Hannity to talk about her being the victim here.

  • Radegunda

    Jim #124, see #125:
    What information has anybody provided to support the politically motivated claim that Loughner was inspired to murder by Sarah Palin’s map with surveyor’s symbols? Or that he ever saw the map, or had any interest in Palin?

    During the last week, Dems and leftists have been the absolute champions at making accusations without any evidence at all, and repeating them contrary to all available evidence. There is a glaring lack of self-awareness in your charge, which ought to be directed toward the vicious and calculated slander coming from the left.

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  • valerie

    Georgia guy, you get a bs flag for this:

    “It is easy to see, however, that the wingnuts jumped all over a perceived action by the President that was so clearly, easily recognized for what it was”

    The people here know how close-captioning works. They also know that crowds take their cues from the people staging the event, and that crowds usually do not rock the stadium unless they are cued to do so. Your comments are beside the point, and we all know it.

    I thought BO was put off by the rowdy behavior of the crowd, which struck a strange note with me, and apparently many others. So, they went looking for the cues, and there was one, on the Jumbotron.

    Was it the only cue?

    That event, from the recycled campaign T-shirts, to the bussing in of people to fill the room, to the booing of one of the speakers, to the applause for the names of the dead, was ODD.

  • Miss Marple

    BJKay, EVERY detail of a presidential visit must be coordinated, vetted, and approved. Everything. If the concession stands were open (which they were, making it a dubious memorial event since popcorn and Cokes were available) then the Secret Service and the advance team had to know, so that the areas could be secured and the people

    The t-shirts had to be approved, to make sure they were not offensive and conveyed an appropriate message. Do you thinnk that someone could have handed out those Bush “Miss me yet?” t-shirts? Why not? Because the advance team would have seen them and said NO!

    And the applause could have been stopped by a word from the president. To tell me “this is just how college kids behave” is absolutely false. All you have to do is go look at the Virginia Tech memorial ceremony where President Bush spoke. There is NO applause throughout his entire speech!

    The White House also had to vet the fake shaman (actually a Catholic professor from U of A) who was the ONLY person who gave any sort of prayer. Why weren’t a priest, rabbi and minister there to read Scripture and pray? Why were the two most anti-Arizona cabinet members , Napolitano and Holder, asked to read verses from the otherwise-ignored Bible?

    President Obama and the White House were responsible for this travesty. They can dissemble all they want, but the truth is the truth. It was disgraceful, and I am not going to be deflected by pathetic attempts to shift blame. Are you telling me the President of the United States cannot control a crowd of college students?

  • georgia guy

    And be aware, Radegunda, that there IS evidence to at least think of these charges; it is however only circumstantial. Palin puts out a map with crosshairs on Giffords’ district, puts the Congesswoman’s name below that, then Rep. Giffords gets shot. It’s not an indefensible connection to make. But there is no hard evidence at all.

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  • Radegunda

    georgia guy, Palin shoots guns. Do you really think she doesn’t know the difference?

    You say “there is no way to know for sure” whether the map “motivated” Loughner. There is also “no way to know for sure” whether he was motivated by the “target list” and “bulls-eye” language and rants against Giffords that appeared on Daily Kos, including one quite recently. Or by the Democrats’ bulls’-eye maps. Or by something Obama said. Or by something Giffords said. (Oh wait — there IS evidence that he’s been nursing a personal grudge against Giffords for years.)

    Why are the “don’t know for sure” possible factors being treated so very differently by the Democrats? Let me guess ….

    There is more evidence suggesting that the applause may have been planned than there is that Loughner was motivated by anything Sarah Palin ever said or did. ALL the available evidence about Loughner indicates that Palin and the Tea Parties had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

    Considering that the most vile assertions-without-evidence having been coming from Democrats for the last week, the pose of outrage over whether the Jumbotron indicates planned applause betrays a very skewed sense of moral priorities — just like the feigned outrage when Palin used the term “blood libel” in a broad sense in which it is, in fact, often used.

  • georgia guy

    I agree, Valerie. The applause was odd. But I wasn’t there, I guess you weren’t either, so we can’t imagine what the emotion was in that room, considering what had happened in those folks’ city. Obama’s speech was a good one, non-partisan and pretty much non-political, inasmuch as any President’s speech can be. To jump immediately to blaming the President or his people for orchestrating the event seems paranoid and cynical, looking for political advantage at a time where we should be thinking of the victims, and maybe how to avoid this sort of tragedy in the future.

  • bg

    ++

    Jim

    opinions facts do not make, that said, a few, of many more,
    facts you obviously, ahem, overlooked, not to mention DK’s
    beaut of an eye..

    ==

  • georgia guy

    Blood-libel is often used? Really? Where and in what context? And even if that’s so, which is highly debatable, why on earth would you use the term BLOOD-LIBEL, or any other term with the word BLOOD in it, while you are discussing a mass murder? 6 people killed and Palin’s worried about a BLOOD-LIBEL against her? That’s at the very least crass insensitivity, and at worst it’s using a mass murder to promote her BRAND, cast HERSELF as the victim, propogating her political career. Cold. Very cold. Or very stupid.

  • bg
  • Rock

    Any way you cut it far to many in that room acted like they where at a burlesque show rather than a Memorial. The President or his campaign groupies could have stopped it and did not. Poor manners and trashy behavior nothing less.

  • Malaka Joe

    georgia guy,

    you are right about the fact the knee jerks so emphatically among these Righties that the blood flow is occluded from the brain, ergo, the critical thinking therein. The other day Mr. Hoft posted a blog where he cited something— “Obama fibbed about when Giffords first opened her eyes”– from the Sonoran Chronicle, which had actually removed the “item of interest” from its web site because it figured out the unworthiness of the charge. And yet Hoft, and his band of merrymen– played on, until some disinterested observer pointed out that what Obama meant was that Giffords had opened her eyes ON HER OWN FOR THE FIRST TIME.

    Oh, the comedy was thick that day, sports fans!

  • bg

    ++

    georgia guy #138

    blood libel

    dang these trolls are so far behind..

    probably left over MoveOn Obots..

    ==

  • Radegunda

    georgia guy, where’s the evidence that Loughner ever saw it? Did you see it before a week ago? Why are the Dems who claim to be so very, very concerned about “tone” and “language” not talking about the Daily Kos “target list” that had Giffords on it, saying they had a “bull’s-eye” on her? Why aren’t they talking about the Daily Kos ranter who said that Giffords is “dead to me”? (Or any of the mountains of leftist hate speech and wishes for violence to conservatives?)

    Everything about Loughner’s biography suggests he’s more likely to have visited Daily Kos than Palin’s website.

    But the Dem/leftists are quite oblivious to evidence in this case. They care about silencing their political opponents. They went searching for the flimsiest bit of “circumstantial” “evidence,” built a massive case out of it, immediately began slandering people and HAVE NOT STOPPED slandering people, despite the mounting evidence that their case is very wide of the mark.

    We’re on to you, georgia guy. Mark Penn was hoping for Obama to have an Oklahoma-City-style event to exploit for his own political benefit. That is ALL this is about in the leftist mind. The tone was (in part) set by Sheriff Dupnik, who recklessly accused those who express political views he disagrees with and even VOTE AGAINST his preferences in Congress!

    Leftists resent the fact that conservatives have any political voice at all. They’ve been in a rage ever since talk radio appeared and the voters chose to end the 40-year Democrat lock on Congress. They constantly accuse conservatives of “hate” and “vitriol” but are completely unbothered by all the hate and vitriol that comes from their side.

  • emtae

    Seriously, do you all not understand closed captioning?

    Such a lust to attack Obama, but really, engage your brain first.

  • Slappy

    Jim (#124): “The slogan for wingnuts should be “Belief first, information later”

    Are you talking about Leftwingnuts? Because a lot of people saw that occur within hours after the shootings in Tucson. Or have you conveniently forgotten that? How do you not see the obvious hypocrisy? It’s astounding to me.

    Jim (#124): “It’s hysterical. You all have already come to your conclusions, however stupid they may be (case in point, Obama is somehow instructing the crowd to applause) then, when confronted with you know, umm, actual facts, rather than admitting you were wrong, you just double down the way a child would.

    I see that your use of projection and half-truths continues. I don’t think anyone wrote that “Obama is somehow instructing the crowd to applaud,” just that they were prompted to by the text on the Jumbotron. Personally, I do think it was the person doing the closed-captioning adding it based on the audience reaction so the audience actually wasn’t prompted, but based on the way the rest of the event was run I can certainly understand someone thinking differently than me. You’re also comparing the reaction of many here to that of a child but what do you call your reaction? Unbridled anger, insults, over-generalizations, half-truths. It’s the epitome of what one would expect from an angry, petulant child.

    Many conservatives in this thread, including myself earlier, mentioned that they thought it was closed captioning, or did you miss that? After all, you used the word “all,” didn’t you? This still doesn’t explain the distribution of free t-shirts nor why a memorial was held in that type of setting. I don’t think the memorial was as bad of an event as some on my side of the aisle are claiming, but I do think the event should have been done differently and had a more somber tone. After all, many people, not just conservatives, cringed at there being so much applause at an event of this type, concession stands being open, and Obama posing for pictures with attendees after the event.

    And georgia guy, you need to relax, too, for the same reasons I mentioned above. Calling all of us “idiots” without knowing the backgrounds of anyone here then posting about yourself that “You don’t know whether I’m smart, or not” was the same type of laughable hypocrisy that your buddy Jim exhibited. I see this all the time in the online world. Gross hypocrisy compounded by an inability to see that you’re engaging in it.

    Also, georgia guy, regarding the use of “blood libel,” Sarah Palin is far from the first public person to use that term in a similar context. Here some of the evidence:

    http://tinyurl.com/4dy38s7

  • Radegunda

    georgia guy, Allen Dershowitz has explained that the term is, indeed, often used in a generic way, and that he himself has done so.

    And you think a matter of disputed usage is “cold,” whereas you’re not at all bothered by the deliberate malice of accusing someone of having blood on her hands when all the actual evidence says the accusation is false? Really, really skewed moral priorities.

    The feigned outrage over the use of “blood libel” is particularly shameful given Palin’s amply demonstrated support for Israel, while many of her accusers detest Israel and have a soft spots for the most vicious anti-Semites in the world.

    So, your feigned outrage is not remotely persuasive.

  • Radegunda

    emtae, “lust to attack”?

    Take that to your Dem pals who are maliciously accusing people of being accessories to murder.

    But suggesting that someone planned for applause? (That “someone” being a person who is known to revel in adoration, jut his chin way up in the air, use “I” with extraordinary frequency, and show other behaviors indicative of an extremely high estimation of himself). Oh, that’s going too far …

  • Purple State

    It’s closed captioning, folks. If they wanted applause, the sign would be a lot more discreet and unnoticeable.

    Really, can you please step away from the “teleprompter” conspiracy theories?

  • Jon

    “Surveyor marks” which makes sense since season two of Palin’s show “Sarah Palin’s Alaska” was going to focus on Palin’s interest in trigonometric surveying techniques.

  • Rock

    Why are these trolls so desperate to defend the undefended, captions not withstanding, many seem to forget where they where?

  • Jon

    “Candid Camera: Behind the scenes video at 9/12 protest shows Fox News producer coaching crowd”

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909180037

  • georgia guy

    Slappy, you’re right, “idiots” included more folks on this site than it should have. I was referring to those who jumped on board the “applause” bandwagon without thinking there might be a legitimate reason the Jumbotron read, “applause”.
    But still, regardless of what dispensation Dersgowitz gives Palin, or how many (often improper) uses of the term there have been recently, does it not seem insensitive and self-serving for Palin to use that term while people are still being buried from the attack? I’m not “outraged”, but I would be if I were or knew one of the victims of the shooting. It’s a callous, self-serving term to use an an improper time.

  • Alex

    ahahahhaha it’s for the deaf, you genius

  • gb

    Clearly photoshopped, nice try haha!

  • Closed Captions.
    Not diabolical evil.
    Closed Captions.

    They help deaf people understand what’s going on.
    If there was music, the closed caption would read [Music].
    That’s not an invitation or order to play music.
    It’s just letting the hearing-impaired know that there’s music being played in the background.

    In a horror movie, a scream heard by the hero would appear as [Scream]

    (Why did he suddenly wake up and run outside? Oh there was a scream.)

    It helps people who CAN’T HEAR understand the CONTEXT of what they SEE.

    (Why is he not talking? Oh, he’s waiting for the applause to stop.)

    What is wrong with you people?
    Even a home-schooled child living in a compound could spot this in a second.

  • Slappy

    georgia guy (#152): “Slappy, you’re right, “idiots” included more folks on this site than it should have. I was referring to those who jumped on board the “applause” bandwagon without thinking there might be a legitimate reason the Jumbotron read, “applause”.”

    Fair enough but that still doesn’t make them “idiots.” I think even avowed liberals would admit that Obama’s public appearances and speeches are well scripted so when something like this occurs, it’s easy to jump to the conclusion that it was intentional. I truly think that many here wouldn’t have thought that the “applause” text on the Jumbotron wasn’t intended to get the crowd to applaud if there weren’t so many other head-shaking parts to that memorial service, such as the t-shirts and concession stands being open. It really was unseemly and the White House deserves at least the blame of not putting their foot down to prevent some of that from occurring. To me, it’s not a big deal but emotions are raw right now among people on both sides of the aisle, including among conservatives here.

    georgia guy (#152): “But still, regardless of what dispensation Dersgowitz gives Palin, or how many (often improper) uses of the term there have been recently, does it not seem insensitive and self-serving for Palin to use that term while people are still being buried from the attack? I’m not “outraged”, but I would be if I were or knew one of the victims of the shooting. It’s a callous, self-serving term to use an an improper time.

    You know that the media would’ve grabbed on to something about her speech to bash her for, as it’s become a sport for them. And I say this as someone who is not supporting her to run as President, though I do like her and feel she’s been unfairly attacked for the past two-plus years. As for the term “blood libel,” it was actually in the title of a Wall Street Journal column by Glenn Reynolds earlier this week before Palin mentioned it so that may be where she and her advisors got it. I don’t know. All I know is that her use of the term was not inconsistent with previous uses of the term and based on its previous generic uses fairly described what she felt was being done to her by the Left and the mainstream media.

    Personally, I find it unseemly that she has been accused of being complicit in a mass murder with no evidence other than a 10-month-old ad posted on her Facebook page. Then, to top it off, she is attacked again for trying to defend herself against the attack. With what we’ve learned about the shooter over the past few days, I can’t see how anyone is still sticking with the belief that the image, Palin, or the Tea Party had anything to do with the shooter’s actions. The only ones continuing to claim this are those on the far Left, who have reverted to trying to blame all recent violence on Tea Party members.

  • Leatherhelmet

    Wow, Jon, a “Trig” joke. Classless.

  • Melly

    Telling people to applaud? Pointing at Jim and laughing?

  • CFHeather

    My initial reaction was that of disgust – however, there may be a little more to this –

    I tweeted this article earlier today, and received several replies saying that this was “Real Time Closed Captioning” for the hearing impaired.

    If that is the case, then this is nothing to get worked up about –
    If this is NOT the case, then it is an outrage

  • Melly

    This is how deaf people laugh: :-0

  • Radegunda

    georgia guy, here’s what’s “insensitive”:

    Showing far more interest in pinning on atrocity on your political opponents (or “enemies” as Obama calls them) than in honestly trying to ascertain what happened. (An internal Democrat memo reveals that tying it to the Tea Parties was an immediate and calculated strategy.)

    Launching a volley of malicious accusations that someone has caused murder, and then feigning outrage — over a matter of usage! — when she dares to defend herself from the most vicious slander I have ever seen in American politics.

    Accusing Palin of “insensitivity” to Jews while indulging the virulent anti-Semitism that has become quite common from the left.

    Turning a “memorial” into a political pep rally for one party, complete with souvenir T-shirts and giddy, whooping college students.

    Take your “sensitivity” lectures somewhere else. You don’t seem to know what it means.

  • Heathcliff

    Wow, Radegunda. Nice work. Could you link to the “internal Democrat memo” that reveals this infernal strategy? It’s truly shocking. And the proof you have is exactly what everyone has been waiting for.

    Awesome, dude. We all eagerly await the link. Honest. We’re waiting. For the link. That you have. And didn’t see in a dream. You know the dream. Where the black helicopters come and take you Glock away.

    Tick, tock, tick, tock…

  • Zack

    It’s amazing how delusional people on the right can be when they just have to find something, no matter how wrong or misinterpreted, to try to criticize the president. It’s laughable, all the people with critical thinking faculties see right through you.

  • Radegunda

    georgia guy, et al.,
    I’ve heard audio from awhile back of several newscasters & pundits saying that Sarah Palin was “in the cross hairs.” Perhaps that doesn’t rise to your threshold of “insensitivity” or “vitriol”?

    Likewise the numerous death threats against Palin and Tea Party leaders: nothing to see there?

    Was it insensitive or not for Sheriff Dupnik — supposedly a nonpartisan law enforcement official — to grandstand over the bodies of the victims to complain about those who vote against his agenda in Congress?

    The Democrat hypocrisy and unseemliness in this case are glaring and shocking, but not all that surprising.

  • Charles R. Kaiser

    That’s closed captioning, which includes audience reaction so those that need it are totally aware of what is going on. During music it would say (Music).

  • lolwut

    Because it’s close-captioned, and they put [ Applause ] there because people were applauding? Like they would note it on a television show.

    People are retarded.

  • rrb

    Nutters crack me up.
    Oh nutters, is there no bottom to your barrel?

  • lalo alcaraz

    HA HA HA HA!!!! LOL doesnt suffice to express the hilarity generated by this stupid post. Thanks for the laughs! I think you should take this as yet another sign that you should give the paranoia and the hate a rest.

  • bg

    ++

    meantime, Giffords is alive, this man, along with 5 others, including a
    beautiful young lady are dead.. so tell me again, why was Sarah Palin
    TARGETED, and what were they “celebrating” at that memorial “aka”
    pep rally??

    Top US Federal Judge Assassinated After Threat To Obama Agenda

    [A Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin
    today states that the top US Federal Judge for the State of Arizona was
    assassinated barely 72-hours after he made a critical ruling against the
    Obama administrations plan to begin the confiscation of their citizen’s
    private retirement and banking accounts in order to stave off their
    nations imminent economic collapse, and after having the US Marshals
    protecting him removed.
    ]

    also not to mention the LIAR Linda Lopez blaming the Tea Party for
    the shooting, or this, no leftist politics as usual there, no no no.. /s/

    albeit there’s tons more evidence of leftist attacks on Palin & conservatives
    before they finsihed counting the bodies.. here ya go, just for the heck of
    it..

    ==

  • donh

    The anger the left is showing over the word ” blood libel ” is evidence they know exactly what game they are playing . The nazi left is just furious anyone would dare call out their lynch mobbing for what it really is. Lets not overlook the exact meaning of the term blood libel . Christians in the dark ages accused mysterious deaths of children to be abductions by jews who needed to draw innocent christian blood for their satanic rituals. Well here we have today Jared, a young jewish man who worships satan, drawing the blood of innocent Christina in a bizzarre ritual of horror. This pool of blood is then sponged up by the devil’s minions to wage a media jihad against all conservative Christians in hopes of spreading more violance . . So now you know . God Bless Sarah Palin for having the courage to speak truth to evil.

  • Radegunda

    There is more evidence that Democrats deliberately chose to exploit a massacre for political gain, than that Sarah Palin or any other conservative had anything to do with the massacre — because there is NO evidence of the latter.

    When Republicans suggested that Obama’s character and worldview might be illuminated by the people he chose to associate with, Democrats howled in outrage over “guilt by association.”

    Now, they cast guilt with no association at all — only vague talk of “creating a climate,” and a rather common sort of political metaphor.

    Anybody who says that a psycopath (allegedly) saw a map with metaphorical symbols and suddenly thought “I’m going to kill as many people as I can” is either insane or mendacious. Those who keep saying it against all available evidence are doubly insane and/or mendacious.

  • Slappy

    Joe B. (#159): “Now I understand why there are people who think Conservatives are stupid people. They aren’t of course, but the ones who blog are.

    The word APPLAUSE on the screen indicates to the hearing impaired that people in the crowd are applauding.

    You moron.”

    I’ve already posted earlier that I believe it is closed captioning for the hearing impaired in attendance. However, calling others here “stupid” and “morons” because they think that the Obama team decided to include “Applause” on the Jumbotron along with the text of the speech is a little much, don’t you think? After all, the text of the speech was released prior to the event so it’s really not a leap to think that it couldn’t have been provided for display on the Jumbotron prior to Obama’s speech. That would have certainly been easier than having someone transcribe it in real time (though I know that is done often, too). Applause signs and other written cues during live events aren’t exactly that unusual, either. Just go to a live taping for most TV shows. So, whether the allegation is false or not, it’s certainly not that absurd to believe it, like many here are trying to claim, especially considering various other aspects of the memorial service (t-shirts, concession stands, post-event photos taken by Obama with attendees).

    I remember the Left trying to claim that Bush was being fed responses from Karl Rove through an ear piece during one or more of the live 2004 presidential debates. The logistics of it was laughably absurd but a decent amount on the Left believed it, didn’t they? After all, they thought Bush was so stupid that this was the only way he could actually debate (forgetting about his strong performances in all of the 2000 presidential debates as well as all the live press conferences he had engaged in during his first term). Do those of you on the Left remember that? Did you have the same reaction to those claims? Did you call those making those claims “stupid” and “morons”? Maybe you did but I don’t remember too many on the Left turning on their own and mocking them for making those patently absurd claims.

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  • Radegunda

    Notice that the lefty trolls (no doubt sent here from a lefty blog) just fly over and drop their c–p. They don’t have the courage or the decency to reflect even a little bit on their disgusting hypocrisy in accusing others of rushing to judgment.

  • Radegunda

    Slappy, you’re making too much sense for the trolls.

    It’s vastly more credible that applause breaks were anticipated (and scripted in) than that Jared Loughner saw Sarah Palin’s map and took it as a command to go kill a lot of people. And yet those who accuse others of gullibility or stupidity are insisting that the latter is true!

    Don’t expect rational thought from leftists if it gets in the way of their power games.

  • Banshee

    LOL! If we keep insisting that the “applause” was direction rather than closed captioning, we’re STILL no worse than the folks who still blame Sarah Palin for the shootings. So go for it! The Left has relinquished any claim to fair treatment in its disgraceful claims last weekend and in the days that followed. Let’s do what they did to us: make whatever claims we want.
    The “memorial” was a circus. I feel terrible for the families of the victims.

  • James

    AuntieMadder wrote: “Jilli, you condescending twit, provide a link to a clip that displays text other than
    “SCHOOL.
    [APPLAUSE]”
    as it appears above, then I’ll believe you.

    Until then, you’re just another marcher in the parade of idiots that’s passed through here today. Smug idiot.”

    And this is the mindset of the fans of this site. We provide one picture of closed captioning, decide to call it an “applause sign,” then tell everyone else that they need to get more evidence to prove our ridiculous assertion wrong.

    But keep on going with this one. Almost as stupid as the “OH MY GOD. Obama’s trip to India is going to cost $200 million per day!!!!!!!!”

  • cnation

    See Jim, this is why you should count to ten before posting articles like this….handing ammo to the enemy and all. Still, the influx of lefty visitors the post has inspired has pretty much turned into today’s affirmation of what a bunch of smarmy, sanctimonious creeps our friends on the left can be.

    So thanks. I guess.

    -c

  • Slappy

    Zack (#163): “It’s amazing how delusional people on the right can be when they just have to find something, no matter how wrong or misinterpreted, to try to criticize the president. It’s laughable, all the people with critical thinking faculties see right through you.

    Yeah, Zack, people on the Left never engage in that type of behavior when criticizing conservatives, right? BTW, do those with “critical thinking faculties” include individuals who think Palin was equally or even more to blame for the Tucson shootings than the actual schooter when there was no evidence supporting this claim? Forget about the ludicrous accusation of rhetoric or a 10-month-old online image causing it. There still is no evidence that Loughner had any allegiance to the Tea Party or Palin. If anything, the vast majority of the evidence shows that his loyalties were to the Left, not the Right, though I think his ultimate motivation was his complete insanity.

    Face it, both sides make outlandish claims against their opponents. Just think about the various insults and accusations tossed out against Bush or Palin on a regular basis. Pretending that your side doesn’t do it is deeply dishonest and is the antithesis of someone with so-called “critical thinking faculties.”

  • 5xmums

    If all the words this man said were on the board, then it is for hearing impaired…if not it’s a cue. The grey hair only succeeds in making him look like Appophis from Stargate

  • victoria_29

    Don’t know why Obama would be looking so haggard & grey, it certainly isn’t from being President…guess golf & vacation is more stressful than we knew.

  • bg

    ++

    closed captioning is done via tv stations, not via Jumbotrons at supposed
    memorials.. but communists cannot be wrong, so yeah, by your standards,
    anyone who doesn’t agree with your redistribution of kool-aid is an idiot..

    Dr. Rossiter “The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind,” he says. “When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious.”

    ==

  • Mike

    That’s closed captioning. Some of you are shockingly stupid.

  • Slappy

    James (#177): “And this is the mindset of the fans of this site. We provide one picture of closed captioning, decide to call it an “applause sign,” then tell everyone else that they need to get more evidence to prove our ridiculous assertion wrong.”

    How about this, James? How about you focus your insult against those actually engaging in the activity that you’re trying to mock and criticize and let them defend themselves and explain their comments instead of you lumping together all “fans of this site,” as if we operate monolithically. This desire to over-generalize is a crutch and intellectually dishonest. See, you don’t help your credibility by tossing out blanket insults while trying to portray yourself as having unimpeachable logic. I will give you credit for not tossing out the “stupid” or “moron” allegation against all “fans of this site,” as that seems to be a preferred practice by many that visit here.

  • TheRightisRight

    Guys, seriously, it’s just close captioning. Audience reaction, music (represented as music notes), and sometimes even sound effects are really common parts of CC. Turn it on on your TV sometime (closed capitoning, not subtitles) and you’ll see for yourself.

  • Patrick Glenn

    Joseph Nobles: after the dust from the alleged “debunking” settles, the bottom line is still that, for anyone in attendance at the “memorial” service who was directly acquainted with any of the murder victims, the applause, itself, and the closed caption [Applause] text would have been nauseating to experience in person.

    Aren’t you pseudo-moderate professional “liberals” big on “optics”?

  • bg

    ++

    victoria_29 #181

    *gray?? what gray”??

    a special occasion called for special effects, like the Jumbotron i had no idea
    was there, or the T-shirts from 2008, or the clapping (thank you, thank you
    so much), or the tales i tiold, yes,i healed the mourners & stopped the rising of the Oceans, oh wait..

    next..

    [*the speech Obama should have given from the proper location he should
    have given it, not that he hasn’t more or less given either speech before..]

    ==

  • TJ Parker

    And you wonder why people call you guys wingnuts. “Closed captioning is a Democrat ploy!” The blind and stupid leading the blind and stupid sheep.

  • Militant Conservative

    OBAMATRONS, your boy is weak and pathetic. His grasp of reality is just as tenuous. His monopoly on power is gone, he has be maginalized by his own rhetoric and ideals. Next, he will still persue his course of distruction for the U.S. The thing tht will be distroyed is all of his HOPES AND CHANGE.

    He has come up against the greatest nation in the world. He will lose, as he forgot about the people that make America great are fighting back.
    powder is dry.

  • LAW145

    Morons. It’s the closed captioning for the hearing impaired. Everything in parentheses (you know these things () ) is atmospheric translation. Again, morons. Dare you to scrub this.

  • theotherjimmyolson

    I don’t want to stay too long. I feel so dirty when I come here to watch the concentrated stoopid, but Bwahahahahahahahahaha.

  • Benny

    PRESIDENT USES TRAGEDY TO SHAMELESSLY GRANDSTAND

    http://tinyurl.com/4ml4o8d

    PRESIDENT USES HEAVILY STAGE-MANAGED EVENT FOR POLITICAL GAIN

    http://tinyurl.com/2vao36

  • bg

    ++

    Islamists & Marxists (by any other name), hmm,
    what could they possibly have in common?? /s/

    ==

  • aprilnovember811

    Political Baron,
    I wouldn’t attend anything Obama was putting on. He lies about everything. He’s either a pathological liar or Taqiya practicing Muslim or both. You need to direct your anger at the con man who you were taken in by. He is Jim Jones. We are telling the truth, if you get angry hearing it, it’s not our problem.

  • Pastor Bobby Dufrane

    Why I know That There is a God and That He Loves Me

    A Personal Testimony.

    Allow me to share a story. Not too long ago doubt was creeping into my head about the Lord and then a miracle happened.

    It was 3 years ago and 50 members of my church were enroute to a bible camp in the Blueridge Mountains of Virginia. They were traveling in a chartered bus. As they sang blessed hymns to the Lord, Satan was up to his old tricks. You see, the bus driver was an atheist socialist and that day his coffee mug was filled with vodka. As the bus wound up through the switchbacks, the driver became progressively drunker. Then it happened. It was that day that changed this poor sinner’s life forever. Entering a particularly tight switchback, the besotted driver finally lost control of the bus and it plummeted 1500 feet down into a ravine where it exploded into a fireball incinerating the flock. The only survivor that fateful day was a young boy who was thrown from the bus by his father seconds before it hit the bottom.

    This young boy suffered severe brain damage from hitting a rock head first and will have to wear a football helmet and drool cup for the remainder of his life. But his survival proved to me that miracles do happen because God does exist and loves me. The Lord caused that accident to bring me back to his flock.

    Hallelujah!

    Praise Jesus! Just open your eyes to his miracles and you will see him everywhere.

    Palin/Beck 2012!

  • bg

    ++

    re: #169 here ya go link..

    another one..

    SOCIALISTS CALLING FOR REVOLUTION and VIOLENCE

    ==

  • seanbedlam

    You’re people with an ability to stick with a story until you look like raving cannibals. I applaud you! (This comment includes no closed captions for the chronically excited).

  • Parker Wolf

    Closed captioning is not asking for applause.

    I can’t believe people take you seriously.

  • AuntieMadder

    Note: I posted the following comment at Atlas Shrugs as well.

    The obots doth protest too much. The idiots.

    The number of trolls posting comments here and at other conservative blog sites that have posts up about the “applause” text going up on the what’s-it-tron, just to repeatedly inform conservative “idiots” that the text was closed captioning*, is a sure indicator that Prezdint Jackass has been busted in yet another lie. How many times over the last couple of years have his flying monkeys been sent into the conservative blogosphere in droves to comment on one story, and one story alone, in defense of their Obamessiah? At least a dozen times that I can recall right away and every one of those reported news stories were true as they were reported, his idiots only being useful in causing confusion and disrupting discussion.

    It’s starting to look the same way for the reports about the t-shirts having been printed and distributed by Organizing for America.

    *Some trolls have posted comments to inform us ‘tards that the text was “close (sic) caption (sic).” That they all misspelled “closed captioning” identically is a dead giveaway that their trolling intrusion has been organized – organized hastily by idiots, but organized none the less.

  • Katie

    Hey geniuses, it’s called CAPTIONING! STANDARD captioning for deaf/hard of hearing includes things like (crosstalk) and (applause) when there is a break in the captioning. I just cannot believe these ignorant comments.

  • Howard praises Sarah the real victim of this Tucson tragedy. http://bit.ly/eG7Z2P

  • emtae

    First of all, I am a Republican, but damn…its Closed Captioning!

    You guys make my party look bad.

    What can you all NOT understand about Closed Captioning? I go to college football games, and the announcer is closed captioned on the jumbo screen, and they use or [applause] all the time during pre-game or half time shows.

    Just because you want to attack Obama for something that he isn’t responsible for is no reason to do it. You all can be better than this. Use your brain.

  • Waldo

    Good Lord! Did you even watch? It was close captioned on the Jumbotron. Maybe I should be surprised I even read your article…

  • Whatever

    Wow, you people are really something. You will take ANY reason to bash and crucify your government, your country, and your President.

    IT IS CLOSED CAPTIONING FOR THE DEAF you MORONS!

    Get real!

    @Auntie Madder–See a shrink. Your paranoia is horribly scary.

  • I do not see any television station logo on the jumbotron so who is doing the supposed closed captioning? Seems like applause cues to me. This was a memorial event. Disgusting.

  • Judy Hobrecht

    What a load of bull spit! Closed caption does not put APPLAUSE IN IT for pete’s sakes, the deaf are not BLIND! They can see APPLAUDING FOR GAWD’S SAKES! How ignorant can you people be!!!! When a person hand-signs for the deaf, you do not see them hand signing FREAKING APPLAUSE! WHATTA DUMB ARSED EXCUSE! Liberals as usual will take out freaking lies to defend this idiot in our White House! Having worked with the blind for years, I have never seen closed captioning that has applause in it, EVER!

  • bg

    ++

    yawn..

    wow what intelligent trolls!!

    and what brilliant posts!!

    sure can tell they not only read posts & followed
    the discussion, but did their homework.. NOT!!

    Earth to idiot conservatives:

    via an OBOT FAQ:

    LIKE IT OR NOT OUR OPINIONS ARE FACTS CAUSE WE SAID SO!!

    AD HOMINEM & NAME CALLING ATTACKS MATTER YOU STUPIDS!!

    rotflmbo!!

    ==

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  • Judy Hobrecht

    Correction, I worked with the deaf and the blind for years!

  • Cletus T Lee

    Judy baby, you ain’t no rocket scienteest. The “applause” lets people at home know that the audience is applausing.

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  • Highlander

    Boy, the left really released the hounds today. I’ve never seen so many leftist trolls here. The Stimulus money must really be flowing now …

    Yes, most of us understand that it was closed captioning, but the question in my mind was whether that the captioning was done live, or in advance, from the text of the speech. If it was done in advance, then it certainly raises some questions.

    What was far more significant though? The concessions, the t-shirts, the pamphlets….. and the fact that the Messiah sucked up the applause, and basked in the limelight, rather than squelch it immediately, and ask the crowd to show some respect for the dead. In my opinion, the entire spectacle was an embarrassment.

    Someone else brought up a great point as well … where was the grand memorial for the Fort Hood victims?

  • bigL

    It just means that the White House is exploiting the deaf along with the shot and dead,doesn’t it?
    I guess not . It is too hard to envison the staffers saying “Just push SAP and the Applause line will write on thescreen;perfect for Obama” Nah that never happened.

  • emtae

    @Gene, I go to games at Arizona State, they have a jumbotron, they show the plays, its not feed from a TV station, its for the people at the game.

    Are you all dense? Have you been to an event at a stadium or arena? Its been like this for a few decades, you all need to get out more.

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  • David Hart

    All these attacks on Obama and his supposed “prompting” for applause just make all of you idiot conservatives seem even more moronic and stupid than you really are. You people all need to get a life, really.

  • captioner

    I make captions for a living. At events like this, we always include the audience’s reaction. It’s for the deaf. The caption ‘applause’ would have appeared AFTER the audience applauded. It’s not our fault you people will cheer and shout at anything.

  • Mary

    The ‘together we thrive’ that was on the ‘memorial t shirts’ comes from organizing for America Obama 2008 campaign – link provided below
    http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/johnberry_iv/C94H

  • Don B.

    It’s called closed captioning. Yes, closed captioning does note when there is applause. Stop acting like you all were the victims in the shooting.

  • Oily Taints

    Where is the birth certificate! No I am not accepting the guarantees offered by the state of hawaii. Don’t think that putting me in the nut house can silence me! Obama is nothing but a front man for an invasion by chlorine-breathing monsters from the planet Remulac.

  • Don B.

    I expect any day now to see republicans whining about why the President has peanuts in his fecal matter.

  • Lizard

    There sure are many jealous teabaggers commenting on this fake video.

  • Madison

    This blog is spreading on twitter. Stupid people topic. This was a translation for deaf people. You idiots that think it is a prompt for applause. Google closed caption.

    If this was closed captioned it would have this [pause for tea baggers… (they are still learning to read)]

  • NeverHome

    It’s pretty obvious by now that the Jumbotron was displaying closed captions. The real conspiracy here is that the article author and/or website editors haven’t acknowledged the rush to judgment, and corrected the article with an apology. But I guess it’s good for web traffic and ad impressions to leave it just the way it is.

  • Conservative to the Core

    The Obama Administration can’t even do subliminal messages right!

  • This is like a scene from the movie Idiocracy.

  • Ben

    I hear they were also broadcasting secret Muslim messages at a frequency that penetrates the brain but you can’t hear it!! The frequency also makes you gay.

  • emtae

    So, will this blogger apologize? Its the sign of intellect when someone admits they were wrong.

    I doubt it though.

  • Bill

    Well SOMEONE has to tell the LIBERALS when they can clap.
    Someone has to tell them when they can go to the doctor
    Someone has to tell them what car to buy
    Someone has to tell them even Which Light bulb to buy
    This is LIGHT duty coercion.
    LOL

  • Wow. Seriously?

    My dear conspiracy people even those of you who realize this is closed captioning. First of all this is on a jumbotron either at the event or near the event for the hearing impaired. It is indeed standard practice to type in when applause occurs in the captioning and even if a speech is provided before hand for captioning purposes someone adds things on the fly as there are many moments in which someone can either misspeak, make an error, take extra long to find a word and fill the gap with ums or such filler words. Therefore, applause wasn’t plugged in before hand.

    If this is your sole argument for this idea that the memorial was a pep rally, you aren’t going to come off too well. I’d search for another straw to pull at.

  • Gosh, Bill. Yoo so funny!

  • Patrick Glenn

    Exactly, Bill, and SOMEONE has to tell lefties when to spam a blog site with the same broken record 2-sentence “debunking.” Okay, so it was closed captioning. Aren’t you lefty drones even a little embarassed to be used like little shoeshine boys, sent off with your spamming instructions, like Little Johnny notes pinned to your shirts?

  • Patrick, Okay, so it was closed captioning. Aren’t you wingnuts even a little embarrassed to be used like little shoeshine boys, sent off with your spamming instructions, like Little Johnny notes pinned to your shirts? Can you just admit that the blogger is a retard trying to use you?

  • Patrick Glenn

    Idiot: How is the blogger using me? To do what?

  • Chisum

    Bill,

    You are so correct….or right, if you will.

  • Patrick, do you need to ask? He makes a fool of himself because he’s too rabid with hate to tell the difference between a closed caption and a prompt. Then all you lemmings rush over the cliff in his defense.

    I don’t think much of the democrats to be honest, but you people are a disturbing. I have never seen a group so easily led around.

  • Patrick Glenn

    Jim Hoft’s unfamilarity with closed captioning has given us another opportunity to observe the lefty drone mentality in action. For example, Hoft’s minor technical error becomes proof that he is an “idiot,” “retarded,” and so forth, even though Hoft has at least 30 IQ points on most of the drones.

    The other interesting thing about this episode: the above image vividly depicts that the atmosphere of the “memorial” was difficult to distinguish from an Obama pep rally. Obama is commemorating the dead in a sports arena, as his fans cheer along. The reason closed captioning was even available was that the memorial service had turned into a U2 concert. But, sure, you trusty leftist constables, you’re right, the pathetic cheering was spontaneous, not encouraged by the concert . . . er, “memorial” promoters.

  • Patrick, go get the hose and douse your head before it explodes from rage. You tea baggers are like Hitler’s Brown Shirts.

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mmBw3uzPnJI/S_5HXcpLekI/AAAAAAABShE/w5JW8u_2j4g/s1600/Haters_Gonna_Hate_23.jpg

  • Patrick Glenn

    Idiot: What am I defending? I jumped into this conversation late and never claimed it was anything but closed captioning. So, you’re generalizing about something you don’t really understand. Like who are “you people”? I rarely comment on this site. Many of the people who are “defending” Hoft would probably range all across the right side of the spectrum.

    All of my comments have been directed at the lefty drones in counterattack fashion. I’m doing that not to defend Hoft, per se, but because I am anti-left.

  • Patrick Glenn

    Idiot: you have a filty mouth and sloppy reasoning skills. Who says that I am a tea partier? I’m not, btw. Also, I have very little rage, except when it comes to college football refs. The brown shirts were socialists, btw. I thought you might find that factoid interesting since you seem to be very sensitive of what I say about lefty drones, which suggests you are one.

    Of course, you have not refuted a single point I’ve made, but that might be asking for too much.

  • I’m in the middle politically. Both sides make me want to puke. Both sides sold us out and the country for profits. It’s just that currently the right has been hijacked by some real lunatics. I was a Republican back in the 70s, and 80s. Then the religious fanatics took over the GOP and I left. Since then I have been an Independent.

    http://i.imgur.com/VQIkt.jpg

  • No, the Brown shirts were fascists. It’s just that they picked a funny name for themselves. I don’t buy into the recent attempts at revisionism by the far right. Next thing you know they will be calling Stalin a liberal.

  • Patrick Glenn

    Idiocracy: the brown shirts always thought of themselves as socialists, not fascists. The revisionism, or false labeling, came from their enemies, the (international) communists. Like many “progressive” socialists, the Nazis ended up making “third way” accomodations with the industrial order and the elites, but there were important distinctions between Nazism and Italian fascism. The thing to keep in mind about the Nazis is that they were hyper nationalist and they hated the Jews above almost all else, but they were not otherwise much different from other early/mid-century socialists.

    You might be an independent in partisan terms, but you seem like a leftist.

  • Katie

    LOL, I am going to post a link this thread everywhere I can, it’s hilarious! It just kills you guys that Quitter made an ass out herself and Obama gave a great speech, you have to stoop to acting like closed captioning in the venue was a big conspiracy and that nobody would have applauded otherwise! WHAT a bunch of geniuses at Hot Air, ROFL!! REALLY, take a bow.

  • As I said, I’m not into the recent attempts at revisionism by Glenn Beck & Co.

    The left think that I’m right. The right think that I’m left. It’s a funny old world.

    Hedges speaks for me.

    The Death of American Liberalism.
    http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/2010/11/nov-0210—pt-3-american-liberalism.html

  • Katie, I heard from a reliable source that they were using the HVAC to pump in a gas that turns ordinary Americans in gay Muslims. Those people will stop at nothing. NOTHING!

  • Patrick Glenn

    Katie, you’re making no sense at all, sweetheart. Please show me the blogger who is claiming that it was a “conspiracy” to urge the crowd to cheer during the memorial, considering that the [applause] text was blared on a giant JUMBOTRON scoreboard. I’m sure the conspirators were certain that no one would ever figure out what secret plan they were up to, right? Do you even know what conspiracy means?

  • Hey Patrick, listen to Hedges while you’re posting. Give it a shot. He skewers the libs. Let me know what you think.

  • Patrick Glenn

    What’s especially silly about Katie’s (lack of) thinking, is that if someone wanted to criticize the behavior of the left/Democrat audience members present at the “memorial,” he/she would get more mileage if such boorish behavior were impromptu rather than prompted by a scoreboard. If nothing else, the closed captioning [applause] text underlines the sickness of the lefties in attendance.

  • Ariel

    Ah! Me thinks they dost protest too much! We must have hit a raw nerve somewhere for Soros to send out all these flying monkeys in order to derail the conversation and discredit the site. Quite the predictable response, if you ask me, almost as predictable as Obama turning a memorial service into a campaign rally, “Yes we can!” Oops! I mean, “Together we thrive!”

    No, he just couldn’t help himself, any more than can these trolls who keep parroting the same line:
    “It’s closed captioning, you idiots/morons/teabaggers/wingnuts etc”. Makes me wonder who writes their material, third graders? You’d think even one or two of them might venture an original thought.

  • Ariel honey, thanks for reinforcing the stereotype about tea baggers are borderline retards.

  • Slim

    Um guys, Applause is a noun. It’s closed captioning telling the hearing impaired the audience is applauding. If it were instructing the audience to do something, it would have read “applaud” (verb – action word). Just sayin’.

  • Patrick, I thought that I was dealing with a rational person. Nevermind. The hate, bigotry, racism, and idiocy of the far right is just sickening. Enjoy your fascist delusions.

  • Slim, the wingnut hivemind doesn’t care about facts.

  • notjenna

    This is great! Whenever I see a Hoft post such as this and then the festival of crazee that follows in these comments I’m reminded of this timeless FauxNews clip featuring comedian Lee Camp.

    “…a parade of propaganda, a festival of ignorance…”

    Perfectly describes the CloseCaptionGate™ going on here. Thanks for the laffs!

  • PJ

    I’ve seen jumbotrons used before. Never saw close captioning on it before.

  • “Why don’t you use your feigned outrage on Boehner for deciding to skip the memorial to attend a cocktail fundraiser.”

    Because he didn’t. The agreement was to have Boehner stay behind and represent the House at a charity event while Bela Pelosi hopped on her broom and flew to Tucson. But just keep spewing the talking points.

  • PJ commented:

    I’ve seen jumbotrons used before. Never saw close captioning on it before.

    Derp-derp

  • Yo all you wingnuts. Thanks for turning America into a real life Idiocracy.

  • sablegsd

    I would like to see a picture of the jumbotron with the text of the speakers.
    There must be one.
    I don’t trust anyone.

  • why is that none of the name callers here think ole jared might have been inspired by the target that daily kos used. also saying she was dead to them. i think jared would be more likely to know about that one then something sarah palin put out.

  • Malaka Joe

    I am all wetty-pantsed about the opportunity today’s blogospheric thread presents me, as I can present this to myriad readers and provide them first-hand knowledge of the following:

    A. The blogger-in-chief posted that the “applause” message was negative and nefarious, “proving” that the audience’s reaction to OBama was stage-managed; however, it became obvious to everyone that the message was meant for hearing-impaired folks who might require closed captioning

    B. The reaction by the right-winged members of this thread–that is, most of them– upon finding out that they were misled by the blogger-in-chief was not of contrition or philosophical mea culpa but to attack the lefty opposition about a subject completely not germane to the events or charges pertaining to this specious post— the accusations levied against Palin/Tea Party by some members of the Left

    C. Many members of this thread retaliated against the apparently liberal interlopers on this thread with untidy branding and infantile name-calling, not even bothering to deflect the charges at hand by redirecting the subject

    d. The man known as Radegunda appears to be the most odious member of this thread and may even be the man behind the spurious curtain

    e. A few members of this thread, despite the admission and acquiescence of some fellow Righties on this thread, continue to deny that the “applause” message was for closed-captioning for the poor.

    J’accuse

  • Me

    Despite the lack of any actual evidence that the White House was asking for applause, it would absolutely fit with their (lack of) character to have done such a thing, so we conservatives (a.k.a. real Americans) can safely assume it was yet another intentional plot to celebrate the greatness of the One. As AuntieMadder so aptly noted, the fact that Obots are denying this is absolute proof of its veracity.

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  • Me,

    Brilliant impersonation of retardness.

  • kellyofsiam

    This site must be The Confederacy of Dunces…..This is closed captioning not a prompter. Jesus H Christ what a collection of idiots.

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  • Matt

    Because he didn’t. The agreement was to have Boehner stay behind and represent the House at a charity event while Bela Pelosi hopped on her broom and flew to Tucson. But just keep spewing the talking points.

    Leaders don’t stay behind.

    The only charity event he wanted to attend was the cocktail fundraiser for the RNC.

    Close captioning is not a prompt, but explains events as they are happening.

    Despite the lack of any actual evidence that the White House was asking for applause, it would absolutely fit with their (lack of) character to have done such a thing, so we conservatives (a.k.a. real Americans) can safely assume it was yet another intentional plot to celebrate the greatness of the One. As AuntieMadder so aptly noted, the fact that Obots are denying this is absolute proof of its veracity.

    Moron!!!!

    You are saying that even though they didn’t actually do what they are accused of, that because they could have that they are still guilty?

    Moron!!!

  • emtae

    I’d like to see all the comments that the moderators deleted.

    When will the person behind this post apologize for not thinking first before blogging?

    Maybe we need closed captioned for the thinking impaired?

  • [email protected]

    I’m impressed. Hoft knows he’s wrong, but contrary to his usual reaction, he hasn’t yet vanished the post. M

  • cornhusker

    whether it was closed captioned or not, here it is:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70kGCnqiKNY

    Draw your own conclusions. I’m amazed that the secret service screening allowed cameras in period. Also (I make no other comment on this) but some waiting to get in were already wearing the “Together We Thrive” shirts. I thought they were distributed inside, that’s all.

    Can’t be sure, because this video doesn’t show the Jumbotron clearly enough but it does seem to be reflecting spurts of applause AFTER it breaks out. However it does nothing to explain the awkward and disrespectful places it occurs. Holding the event in a sports arena may have a whole lot to do with that.

  • Simon

    All I know is, this many comments mean the Democrats are trying desperately to: “Hijack the narrative.” Or molest the messaging, whatever it is.

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  • captioner

    Democrats hijacking the narrative? No, Simon. Articles this ridiculous spread like wildfire on social media websites. Professional captioners and closed caption end-users have simply followed links posted by a popular caption blogger on Twitter. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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  • David Hart

    You’re right, Cornhusker, why hold the memorial service at a sports arena, so the 25,000 plus people who wanted to attend could actually do so? They should have had it at the First Baptist Church of Tucson, so 1,200 could show up. What were they thinking????

  • David Hart

    And yes, Simon, we’re desperate…desperate to get all you haters and psychos the mental help you all so desperately need.

  • mika

    to mistake closed-captioning for audience-exhorting is pretty damn stupid. but the idea that allowed this lobotomy-level mistake to seem worthy of being mentioned at all—the idea that a memorial service shouldn’t be filled with shouts, cheers, enthusiam, applause, & general loud demonstrations of approbation—is sick. anyone whose death provokes a raucous, indecorous “pep rally” in the name of public service has lived a life worth envying & emulating.

  • El Gordo

    Look, maybe it was closed captioning. What bothered me about the speech was the tone of the entire event.

    Why a crowd setting? Why the rock star introduction? They cannot have been surprised by the applause and whooping because that is the way they set it up. They made it about HIM, as always.

    Why not a speech from the Oval Office the next day, which is how it is usually done? Why wait for three days while left-wing operatives smear their political opponents with a blood libel? Obama didn´t calm the waves when it would have been most effective and he is not saying a word while the accusations go on now. That is politically expedient, but it is hardly “presidential” behavior.

    The speech on paper is good. The context stinks.

  • El Gordo

    I went to mourn the dead and all I got was a lousy t-shirt.

    Is that how we mourn the dead now? Really? Was there or will there be much whooping and hollering when you bury your parents?

  • Dr. C

    You are looking foolish here. Closed captioning is common on jumbotrons, especially at university events, for the hearing impaired, who expect description of all audio (music, applause, etc.).

  • Dr. C

    Oh, and hello. All you grief police who want to dictate to people how they should mourn their own dead need to stop and look in the mirror.

  • Tina c.

    It’s Closed Captioning, dumb***, for those in the audience who were deaf. A written description of what took place. (In response to original blog post only.)

  • auntie em

    Go ahead and call me racist, but until I see any other ethnicity doing this, then I will continue to think that the t-shirt giveaway may be a cultural thing for the obamas. Being that obama grew up white, this has to be all the wife’s idea. You know, you see the t-shirts from black funerals with the deceased’s photo screen-printed with an airbrushed ‘word up’ on it. Distasteful, yes. Weird, yes. Any different from anything else this classless duo does, no. One more year and they are out of here and all will be right with the world.

    At this point, I don’t even care if they prosecute the obamas. I don’t ever want to hear about them, talk about them, or think about them ever again.

    I pray that the families of the victims can find peace at this horrible time, compounded by all of the negative press instigated by the poop stirrers in the white house who are desperately trying to make a political profit off of their murdered loved ones backs.

    We will never forget the senseless loss of life nor how utterly disgusting obama is. Never.

  • auntie em

    I see the trolls have been deployed. Weird.

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  • wtp1787

    Community organizing at it’s best! It’s how his machine rolls…

  • BC

    A link in Facebook and a comment about the future of America brought me here.

    This sort of deranged “article” and the inevitable Obama-bashing thread of comments by malicious and laughably clueless right wingers make it seem more and more that a good chunk of our country is officially and hopelessly nuts. When Republicans regained control of the House, the USA’s real enemies like al-Qaeda were probably smirking and doing high-5’s all around, while our friends and allies were likely going more like, “Oh God, not again — how can such a major, advanced industrial nation harbor such a large population of complete ignoramuses?!? Could it be something in their toothpaste or such?”

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  • MattW

    Wow, there is some weapons-grade stupid going on here. Closed captioning, as mentioned in some other comments here, often has reaction or background information in it. Applause, laughter, notations of dramatic music or singing, other sound effects. It’s a text representation of the audio that is occurring.

    Would it have been better for them to hire two closed captioning transcribers? One for the TV broadcast that included the *applause* notations and one for the deaf people reading the Jumbotron that left it out? Why, no, that wouldn’t work, because then you’d be screaming about wasting taxpayer money. You all are reaching for things to be outraged against. Find something substantive, please.

  • tanstaafl

    Ok Auntie Em, I will call you a racist.

    The White House, the university that hosted the event, and the student committee that organized all say that the President and the White House had nothing to do with the T-shirts. The fact that you so desperate to attack the President who gave a stirring, respectful and non-partisan speach that you refuse to believe this is pathetic.

    However, the fact that you describe a common practice at African American memorial services as distasteful and weird is, yes, racist. Everyone is entitled to mourn deceased friends and/or celebrate their lives in their own fashion, it is not up to you to pass judgement on entire segment of American culture. Do you consider Irish wakes to be distasteful, weird and classless as well?

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    Jim, great job! Feed the moonbats all the Grievance Chow™ they can eat. Let them chew on their hate. They deserve every morsel. Eat up, libs. Make sure to wash it all down with a little Proggade™.

  • tanstaafl

    Btw, what is really pathetic about Jim Holt’s fake outrage is that he isn’t even being original.

    The right-wing made the same false claim — that closed captioning common at many public events of all types was actually prompting the audience to applaud — as part of their successful attempt to politicize the Paul Wellstone memorial service in 2002. I guess Jim figured that if it worked once before…

  • MarkB

    There are 2 kinds of people replying angrily to this non-news story. They are as follows:

    Group A- You have such a narrow view of the world and have had little experience outside your home so you have no idea what closed captioning is or how it works and assume the jumbotron is like some sort of Orwellian teleprompter for the audience. For those r-tards, allow me enlighten. Closed cationing is used to tell deaf people what is going on whether verbally or what sounds are being made. When it’s a prerecorded show(soap opera, drama, sitcom) the closed captioning is pretyped and scrolls as the dialog happens. In a live event (news, sporting event, PRESIDENTIAL ADDRESS) the closed captioning is typed AS IT HAPPENS live. This includes everything heard verbally as well as sounds. In other words, the applause was telling the hearing impaired what was happening, not telling people what should happen. Had a fire alarm gone off, you would have seen the words *Fire alarm siren* on the screen. Hope that clears things up.

    Group B- You know exactly how closed captioning works and are so morally bankrupt and without any sort of compassion that you would fain anger in the midst of a horrible tragedy in which, among other things, a 9 year old girl was killed, just to have something else trite and petty to get angry at Obama about. If you are in this group then I feel such pity for you and the miserable life you must lead. Should a tragedy like this ever befall you or your family, I pray that others like yourself don’t use it as an excuse for paltry insults and false anger and respect you or those you loved. But, in the meantime, you are a sick individual who should probably seek help fro a professional about your anger issues and ability decipher what is deserving of your vitriol and what you should be able to see past and let go.

  • NovemberElection

    Ok, enough. It’s closed captioning. At least correct your headline to a question about IF it’s closed captioning? We don’t need to appear like idiots at this time. eyeroll.

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    C’mon libs, get it all out. Vent all your rage at Jim Hoft! It’s all his fault! You need a villain, and you want Jim, and all who read/comment, to pay dearly. It’s a shame you can’t tatoo Gateway Pundit on our foreheads so we could be humiliated and shunned in public.

    November has come and gone, and YOU LOST! Get over it.

    I capitalized and bolded a portion of my comment. How can I possibly be wrong? RAWWWWR!!!

    Please resume wasting your time commenting on a nontroversy—your tears are delicious!!!

  • elcrapitan

    I’m going to change the world by the remarks I make in a blog comment section. If I call people stooopid, they’ll see the error of their ways(even if it’s satire meant to pi$$ political opponents off).

    I’ll explain, in detail, how closed captioning works. My passion will transcend mere words and pixels, and those that disagree with me will reassess their ideology, and my POV will prevail.

    Now, excuse me while I finish ironing my cape!

  • Conservative to the Core

    [LAUGHTER]

  • SevenEleven

    Dear Mr. Hoft,

    Please refrain from upsetting the greater Moonbat community until we’re able to replenish our stores with the snackables required to sustain Moonbatia nation. Frantic mothers have cleaned our shelves out trying to please their basement snackaholics who refuse to leave their cellars until your perceived injustice has been addressed and corrected.

  • tanstaafl

    @DigitalTroglodyte comment #298… Wow! Project much?

    Considering that over half of the comments on this thread are from conservatives that were still “venting all your (their) rage” even after being informed that the Jumbotron was displaying closed captioning, your comment just broke the needle on the irony meter.

  • Ed

    Hilarious. All you are doing is sifting through everything to find any little tidbit you can twist to show our president in a negative way. Portraying closed captioning as an applause sign is what of the funniest and saddest things I’ve seen in a while.

  • Kneale

    The [closed caption] must be an aid to those that couldn’t see Nancy P jumping up and down like a wak-a-mole.

  • notagain

    Gee Ed, here I thought the funniest and the saddest thing was the left getting unhinged (as if they were hinged to begin with) about the scrolling word “Democrat” across a tv screen during some gop commercial. Because at one point the word “rat” was all that was left on the screen of the word “Democrat”. Now that is hilarious.

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    tanstaafl commented:
    @DigitalTroglodyte comment #298… Wow! Project much?

    Considering that over half of the comments on this thread are from conservatives that were still “venting all your (their) rage” even after being informed that the Jumbotron was displaying closed captioning, your comment just broke the needle on the irony meter.

    Dude(or whatever gender you’re self identifying as at this particular point in time), I don’t care. I’m just enjoying the spectacle of reading the increasing anger generated by a blog post. As elcrapitan so aptly and sarcastically pointed out, IT’S A BLOG POST! Quit taking yourself so seriously. Jim does this just to pi$$ people like you off, and you ate it up. I’m encouraging you to continue to respond to each and every comment you find ironic(or offensive, or racist, etc), it is quite entertaining. Can you please comment before 1 PM Eastern Time? I need another laugh prior to kickoff. Your turn!

  • Sandy

    How come we need a Jumbotron at a memorial? When the kids started cheering why didn’t the Potus just tell them to stop? Did Obama even think about how this kind of rally would look to the family members who had just lost their loved ones? Sorry Libs but to the rest of us it looks like Obama wanted to make a big splash for his first campaign event in his reelection bid.

  • Andrew

    I work in television and recently covered a gubernatorial inauguration. Monitors were put in place all over the building to accomodate overflow. We are required to have closed-captioning in place for an event of this nature so we sent our broadcast feed to those monitors. Applause appears in CC when the audience is applauding just like a G clef appears when music is playing. So, EPIC FAIL on the part of the wingers looking for sinister motives for something that takes place everyday in the real world. It’s amazing how hate seems to trump logic among the right. I didn’t like President Bush, but I always gave him the benefit of the doubt and while I had issues with his policies in regard to Iraq, I always hoped it would succeed as planned. This constant drumbeat against President Obama, finding evil in the most innocent of events, is not worthy of what used to be a fine tradition of conservatism in this country.

  • MAJ Mike

    To all of the LibCong who are calling for civility in political discourse — STFU!

    After 8 years of ChimpyMacHaliburtonBusHitler, you guys poisoned the well. I remember the movie that portrayed the murder of Bush. I remember the howling demonstrations calling for the murder of Conservatives. I remember movie stars on TV calling for audience members to go to conservative homes to murder them and their families.

    KISS MY ASS, LibCong! YOU DON’T GET A FREE RIDE ANYMORE!!

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    Thanks Andrew, I was beginning to think that I wouldn’t get to see another useless comment regarding the technical aspects of CC(I love acronyms, it adds a level of authenticity).

    This constant drumbeat against President Obama, finding evil in the most innocent of events, is not worthy of what used to be a fine tradition of conservatism in this country.

    That’s beautiful, man! [with lip quivering, wipes tear from left cheek]

    I ONLY HAVE 65 MINUTES LEFT BEFORE KICKOFF! COMMENT!

  • Patrick Glenn

    One of the more telling comments in this thread was from Malaka Joe, comment #262. He writes, “The reaction by the right-winged members of this thread–that is, most of them– upon finding out that they were misled by the blogger-in-chief was not of contrition or philosophical mea culpa but to attack the lefty opposition about a subject completely not germane to the events or charges pertaining to this specious post— the accusations levied against Palin/Tea Party by some members of the Left.”

    Ugh, Joe, I didn’t even become aware of this story until AFTER it had been determined that it was closed captioning. And, anway, I recognized it as such immediately upon viewing the above image. But, apparently, I’m supposed to show “contrition” and/or do a “mea culpa” for something I didn’t do. Such an illogical “suggestion” at least serves to remind us, for the 1,299,765th time, that what you drones really want is for your ideological opposition to be marginalized. Moreover, all the nasty name calling (“idiots,” “retards,” etc.) further underlines who the real “vitriolic “haters” really are.

    Again, I’m commenting on this thread not to defend Hoft against the (relatively minor) mistake he made, but because I am anti-left and a bunch of lefty drones are swarming here. The difference between me and most of y’all is that I hate your IDEOLOGIES whereas y’all hate ME and other “retards” who think similarly to me.

  • Andrew

    DT,
    I hope it adds authenticity because it’s a fact. I’m glad my expertise is seems as useless by such an obviously productive member of society.

  • Andrew

    Patrick,

    Hoft didn’t make a minor mistake. It was a huge mistake, but to be expected because he has never shown himself to be particularly bright. I suspect Hoft of far worse: a sin of omission. He knew perfectly well he was misrepresenting the facts about Tucson and didn’t care because it fit the ongoing narrative of President Obama as the Antichrist. I don’t expect apologies from your crowd because you have leaders that never admit when they are wrong.

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    Andrew, thanks for adding to the counter outrage. Forty-five minutes folks!

  • Ralph Dosser

    Being a rightie means never having to admit you’re an idiot. When confronted with actual facts, double down on the lies!

  • Chisum

    White House: we were shocked that Tucson memorial crowd hooted and hollered throughout because our APPLAUSE signs were actually quite discrete

    http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/01/white-house-we-were-shocked-shocked.html

    My sides hurt!

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    What’s the over/under on 325 comments before kickoff. Andy, what expertise do you have measuring someone’s brilliance.

  • JPK

    Okay, that’s it. A lot of you who actually think this was some sort of left wing conspiracy or an attempted glorification of himself by the president instead of being able to see exactly what this is, closed captioning for the hearing impaired, there is only one solution. It’s time to quite life.
    You have proven yourself to not be able to make any sort of logical conclusion or simple reasoned decision and must therefore leave it up to someone else to do it for you. You lack the higher brain function to take in facts, words, and images that you see or hear and come to a common sense logical opinion and will simply believe anything anyone on ‘your side’ tells you regardless of it’s illogical or asinine intent.
    So stop everything you’re doing right now, sell all your worldly possessions, strap on a diaper and pay a doctor to put you in a permanent medicated coma because, at this point, you are only hurting yourself and shaming your parents and/or loved ones who assumed they had raised or taught you how to think for yourself and have a good amount of common sense. Unfortunately, either they failed or there was some sort of error during birth and you are incapable of reasoned thought. Either way, it’s time to leave all your decisions to someone else to make for you who is more responsible and intelligent. Do the right thing here. It might be the smartest decision(and that’s not saying much) that you’ve ever made.

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    Patrick, you didn’t admit to Jim making a HUGE mistake! You needed to cathartically flog yourself in each of your comments to satisfy their indignation. Twenty-five minutes to go!!!

  • Chisum

    JPK,

    Where’s your tolerance?

    I’m going to rat on you to Mrs. Obama!

    Shame on you!

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    JPK, how do you quite life?

  • JPK

    DT, I think I pretty much laid that out in the next paragraph. Enjoy the game!

  • Patrick Glenn

    Do you lefty drones have any appreciation for LOGIC?

    Let me get this straight: Jim Hoft is a right-winger who mistakely stated that the [applause] was part of the stage managment instead of closed captioning. I’m a right-winger who never stated or believed that it was anything but closed-captioning. Therefore, I am should apologize on behalf of Hoft and admit that I am idiot. Is that about the gist of it?

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    Chisum,

    I think Jim should do another post regarding this subject, and write he’s even more convinced this was intentional to stroke ∅’s ego.

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    JPK, if you’re going to question someone else’s intelligence, shouldn’t you at least learn to spell “quit?” Hey, maybe you meant “quite.” I find that “quite” interesting!

  • JPK

    Not at all Patrick. If you’re right winger that believes it nothing more than closed captioning then you’re just that- a right winger that thinks it’s nothing more than closed captioning. You owe an apology to no one. I think the message is to all those that immediately jumped on the bandwagon against all logic and common sense. Speaking only for myself, I am not insanely agro at every right winger I encounter and even have some very close friends that are RW that I care for very much and enjoy a nice civil debate but there are members of both sides that are so destructive that they do far more harm than good. These are the people I have no tolerance for and neither should you.

  • Chisum

    DT, I think Jim should wait a few days. I hear the drug stores are out of smelling salts and the ERs are full of proggs with the vapours.

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    Chisum,

    I think that’s a great idea. It may be time to market an inflatible fainting couch. It could have imprints of endangered species, total win-win for proggs.

  • Chisum

    DT,

    Wow. Great thinking! The fainting couch could have soft fuzzy spots to mark the head, butt and feet areas. This way the proggs will have a comfortable “experience”.

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    These are the people I have no tolerance for and neither should you.

    How can you not have tolerance for people you described as suffering “some sort of error during birth” or “are incapable of reasoned thought?” Have you no empathy, sir?

    Time up! See you at halftime!!!

  • Militant Conservative

    Irrelivant chattering from the left.

    Your affirmative action community organizer is a classless socialist.

    The outrage from the left show’s how weak and vulnerable they are.

    powder is dry.

  • tanstaafl

    Sorry, DT. I already said what I had to say and have better things to do than post just to entertain you.

    I only stopped by again because the game is starting and I wanted to say, “Go Seahawks!”

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    Chisum,

    How about a combination Snuggie and inflatible Fainting Couch—a Fuggie™!

  • Patrick Glenn

    JPK, it’s just that most of the lefty commenters in this thread have been talking past the conversation – as if they had been on another site, got their marching orders, and simply did (paraphrased) copy & paste 2-sentence “debunkings” that were about 12 hours overdue.

    For me, the closed captioned Jumbotron provides a telling image, in its own regard. The Jumbtron is sort of a symbol for, or vehicle of, the pep rally aspects of the memorial.

    I’ll ask you, since you seem to be more responsive than the other lefty commenters: if you were a friend of one of the victim’s relatives, and you were present at the memorial when the applause broke out, would it have made you feel uncomfortable? One doesn’t need to climb up on a high horse and start lecturing others about proper ways to mourn, etc., to sense that the memorial/rally had some icky aspects to it.

    I don’t blame team Obama, necessarily, for stagecrafting a rally, as I have no idea who orchaestrated what. It’s more that I am flabbergasted by the progressives/liberals who treated the event as a rally. Actually, that the progressive/liberal applause/boooing was spontaneous, rather than prompted, should be more worrisome to someone like me, right?

  • Chisum

    DT,

    “Fuggie”?

    Close, but no cigar.

    My name for it would never make it past the GP filters.

  • Sandy

    Andrew you work in television, is this the way to handle a memorial? You call this the most innocent of events–that’s exactly what it was AN EVENT viewed by 31 Million people. It was staged as an event and an event is exactly what it was.

    Should this have been an event or should it have been a more somber affair for the sake of the families whose loved ones were murdered just a couple of days before?

  • c4Logic

    This is the stupidest, most paranoid discussion I have ever read, shedding no light, only heat. This blog is below a mental asylum on the scale of ‘crazy’. There are some people here that need professional help. Seriously, make an appointment with a psychiatrist.

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    c4Logic commented:
    This is the stupidest, most paranoid discussion I have ever read, shedding no light, only heat. This blog is below a mental asylum on the scale of ‘crazy’. There are some people here that need professional help. Seriously, make an appointment with a psychiatrist.

    Who do you use? Can anyone get a discount if they mention your moniker?

  • Chisum

    Isn’t c4 some type of *gasp* explosive?

    If I use c4Logic’s name for a reference will I get a visit from Homeland Security?

  • Patrick Glenn

    Chisum, you’re on to something there . . . monikers that are Freudian slips. c4 = highly unstabble/volatile explosive. c4Logic therefore = unstable logic.

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    Did a search on “c4Logic.” Seems like someone with that moniker has a blog at talkingpointsmemo.com, so it’s obviously acquainted with “stupidest.”

  • bg

    ++

    If White House Was Surprised by Applause at Tucson
    Pep Rally… Why Did They Ask For It On Jumbotron?

    Hoft posted facts and questioned them, period..

    you trolls read into things what you want to read..

    i call what you do projecting results via
    projected results or something like that..

    (gee i wonder what they’ll think i said.. :D)

    ==

  • Chisum

    Can you imagine the hissy fits from the left if a conservative used a name with ‘c4’ in it?

    We would be subjected to endless accusations of extremism, bitter clingers, wackos, etc. and be held up for endless ridicule as the purveyors of all that is wrong with the world.

  • SpartanUSMC

    Finally had the opportunity to watch the memorial and don’t really see what all the fuss is about. In Italy people applaud all the time at funerals (with actual caskets) and in several Middle Eastern countries they fire AKs into the air on full auto. BFD.

    As for the Jumbotron, it’s pretty clear that this was closed-captioning and not some Pavlovian instruction to clap on cue. Speaking as someone who has been in uniform for the last 15 years defending Mr. Hoft’s right to free speech, I am distressed that he has chosen to abuse it so egregiously.

    Also distressing is the vicious tone in some of these comments. Get it through your heads – at the end of the day we are not “Repugs” or “libtards” – we are all AMERICANS who want the best for this country, albeit in different ways. There are kids out here fighting and dying to defend the Republic; don’t waste their sacrifices by tearing it apart from the inside.

    Oorah.

  • bg

    ++

    Chisum #343

    and forget about Alice, get a load of eat me in wonderland.. duh-fuh!! 😀

    ==

  • Henry Hawkins

    LOL x 100 @ Digital Troglodyte and Chisum for so deftly milking the crazy cow.

    Signed,

    Henry “Nitro” Hawkins

  • JPK

    Patrick, in all honesty, I probably wouldn’t have been all that upset at the cheering but I will admit that it was a little unexpected and I noticed it in the beginning but I don’t hold the President or his staff responsible for that but rather, the crowd. And the assumption that the crowd was entirely left wing or liberal is just that, an assumption. The crowd reacted as a crowd reacts- spontaneous. And the crowd was let in on a first come first serve basis so there was a mix of liberals and conservatives in the arena. And no, I can’t give any sort of percentage make up of each but this was not a single party memorial. I ask you this, if the President were speaking where you live and you had the chance to attend, would you? I know I would regardless of their party affiliation because it’s a chance to hear the Office of the Presidency speak live. And just as the country did on 9/11 I’m sure the people of Tuscon did in the days after the tragedy in that the labels of party affiliation fall away and they stood simply as Americans. While it would be easy to focus of a few second of uncomfortable applause( which again, I hold the crowd responsible for, not the President) I would rather focus on what was an incredibly moving speech that I needed to hear in a time of such strife and it actually moved me to tears. And not because it was a Dem President who delivered it but from the words, just as I was moved to tears by Bush’s words when he spoke from ground zero after 9/11. We all need a reality check and it starts with us as individuals. We are so quick to villainize the opposing side and assume things that are not there just because we assume the other side to be pure evil and without merit. I’m guilty of this too but if 2 people like us from opposing sides can have a normal discussion, doesn’t that stand for something in how you would view the intent of ‘my side’? I know it does for me.

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    LOL x 100 @ Digital Troglodyte and Chisum for so deftly milking the crazy cow.

    They keep coming back for more! Since this game is “teh suck”, I’m going for a walk.

  • Chisum

    SpartanUSMC,

    This may help you to understand why conservatives are fed up.

    From AJ Strata.

    the political madness emanating from the left over the AZ shooting has me completely turned off from politics right now. The heated and angry rhetoric from the left condemning heated and angry rhetoric is embarrassing and gross. The target being put on Sarah Palin because she has a populist, family-centric following is just a sign of the insecurity and cheapness coming from the left.

    It is an abysmal display I prefer to let pass – and never forgive. The rabid left has been wallowing around the sewer so long they cannot even grasp how much they project their own selves onto their political enemies. Few outside the left are unaware this time around.

    http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/15822

  • Jim

    Of course it’s even more telling that the dunce minions felching Hoft don’t even think what he did was wrong.

    They don’t care because in greater wingnuttia, facts do not matter. They just don’t.

    The only thing that matters is how said wingnuts feel about something.

    Like this.

    Only the dumbest person alive would assume that close captioned images on a screen is absolute proof the WH is commanding people at a memorial to applaud.

    Now, do you really believe this crap, or like a good talk radio show host, you just throw it out there because you know how dull and uninformed and gullible your audience is?

  • dirk

    The OP and its supporters form one giant dangling bowel movement of idiocy.

    Closed captions, like what they are done in real life, innit:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70kGCnqiKNY

  • Patrick Glenn

    Talk about wrapping your(left-wing sock-puppet)self in a flag . . .

    Anyway, back to JPK, because he’s/she’s actually a real person: JPK, fair enough, I respect that different people would respond differently to the pep rally aspects of the memorial, and I’m not looking to be moralistic. Nevertheless, this was not a private funeral in Italy and some of the atmospherics, IMO, struck an unfortunate chord, and given the circumstances, those atmospherics have the potential to effect the larger political/policy realms.

    I would go see the president speak, given the opportunity, and I did think it was a well written speech.

    I can, and regularly do, have nice and cordial, yet still spirited, conversations with progressives/liberals, but most of the smarter political junkies on both sides, including myself, are ideologues, so the political/policy debates rarely result in either side budging much. Thus I also try to influence my ideological opponents on a more theoretical level.

  • joeyess

    this has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. Hey, Jim! You win the internets this year in the category of “Best Full Retard”.

  • Patrick Glenn

    And, joyess, you win an all expenses paid, two week trip to Toledo, Ohio for being the 97th commenter on this thread to make the same pointless comment. Congrats!

  • I believe it is a .. closed captioning for the deaf.. and believe me I’m no fan of Mr. O.. I still can’t listen to him… I feel like I’d rather read what he said than be sucked in by his oratory.. So maybe the deaf have an advantage..
    As far as what one commenter here said..

    Dave in Houston commented:
    Is it me, or is our Prez looking a bit old and gray these days?

    If he’s looking older.. it’s not because of the pressure of office.. maybe it’s all the stress of planning all those vacations. I’ve never gone on a vacation.. I’m 65 and the last time I did was as a child with my parents to Yellowstone Park. I haven’t the extra mullah to travel anywhere on vacation and that mullah is getting harder to come by..

  • Jim

    Hoft is batting 1000 here. First he posts the fake Facebook page of what he thought was the shooter, then he totally got it wrong and lied about Obama referring to Giffords opening her eyes for the first time, now this.

    And watching all his little lemming here project is just hysterical. No sense of being wrong, no sense of self reflection, just hunkering down and rallying around their hero Hoft.

    It’s ok to admit when you’re wrong, kids. We all screw up at times.

    But wingnuts like Hoft and Malkin really dont have it in them to show this quality.

    It’s like you’ve already arrived at your conclusion and now you try, however feeble and desperately, to fit all the ‘facts’ around your idea.

  • joeyess

    @Patrick Glenn

    When you can display the ability to simply type a 7 letter moniker correct, then you, sir, will have a point. Pointless, you say? Do you mean pointless in the manner of Hoft’s obvious attempt at fomenting yet another lie in his ongoing campaign to brand President Obama as a usurper and a mind-controlling Manchurian Candidate?

    That’s pointless.

    BTW, so was your comment to me…………. excuse me, your point was?

    That’s what I thought. Your point was a clinical example of psychological projection.

  • Patrick Glenn

    Joyless, that’s a big concept for you to use – psychological projection. Manchurian Candidate? LMAO!

    If you’d actually read a few of the comments in the thread, you’d see I’d made many points before you arrived with your non-contribution to the discussion. But, yep, fair enough, my only point in addressing YOU was to point out that you’re trite.

  • Myparis34

    re “Jim does this just to pi$$ people like you off.”

    Unlikely…. but if we accept that premise, it immediately calls all rightnetwork posts into question.

    You can’t have it both ways.

  • StupidRepublicans

    Jebus Freaking Christ!

    What the hell is wrong with you conservatives?

    IT WAS CLOSE CAPTIONING!
    Are you people so stupid that you don’t know that?

    The country really needs to enforce its second amendment rights on the whole lot of you morons. When even your own tell you that it was CC and you still don’t believe, it really shows the amount of vitriol and lack of awareness you people on the fringe right possesses.

    To those of you who are more level headed and realize that it was captioning, thank you. Can you do something to reign in the crazy of your brethren?

  • christopher michael

    how hard is it to hear the words coming from SpartanUSMC in #344?

  • Militant Conservative

    #344 January 16, 2011 at 1:09 pm
    SpartanUSMC commented:

    Incorrect, My proof is sitting in the WH.

    1) Obama is either so stupid he does everything wrong and it hurts the country.

    2)Obama is donig everything he can to distroy America.

    You have to pick one and I know Obama does not like this country as founded.

    #360 January 16, 2011 at 2:29 pm
    StupidRepublicans commented:

    I do not care if this was CC or not. Obama is still a classless individual with socialsit roots. (dyed or not)

    Powder is dry and plentiful.

  • Militant Conservative

    I think spartanUSMC needs to man up alittle.
    Pretty panty waisted for a devil dog.

    Me thinks he doth protest too much. Civility anyone??
    Hell no I going to politically distroy the left.

    Tan and hang thier nasty hide outside to scare away the buzzards.

    Powder is dry

  • JBinMD

    #331 January 16, 2011 at 12:12 pm
    Militant Conservative commented:

    Irrelivant chattering from the left.

    Your affirmative action community organizer is a classless socialist.

    The outrage from the left show’s how weak and vulnerable they are.

    powder is dry.

    el oh el. If outrage is a sign of weakness and vulnerability, then what does that say about you TeaBaggers given the last two years of vitriolic foaming-at-the-mouth outrage we’ve heard from you?! And :chuckles: at Dim-Jim Hoft and all of his mindless sackswingers here who thought the (APPLAUSE) on the jumbotron was an instruction and not closed captioning. Hey guys, reality called. It would like to arrange a reconciliation with you since your last separation from it. ;^)

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  • bg

    ++

    JBinMD #364

    what the hell are you on??

    ==

  • Lightwave

    I was watching a soap today, and the TV said [crowd whispers], and I was like, NOBAMA I WILL NOT WHISPER. You can’t control my brain from your televisor this time! Luke 7:13

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    Was it closed captioning?

  • christopher michael

    wow. clearly, far too hard for anyone on this board to hear…or care, it seems.

    Militant Conservative…good luck. and way to take the high road JBinMD.

  • bg

    ++

    JBinMD #364

    vitriolic foaming-at-the-mouth outrage

    oh okay, a few more here and a couple more there..

    there you go, showed you some of mine,
    now show me some of yours, i dare you..

    ==

  • Katie

    YMy wife/cuzzin DONE tole me that them so-called “captions” are put in by some heathen what’s gone to one of them places of fancy book learnin’ where they hate GAWD! They learn em to do them captions on the Devil Machine so when the Kenyan Anti-Christ is talkin’ they see words in lights, it just ain’t fittin’. SAVE US SISTER SARAH YOU ARE LIKE ESTHER IN THE HOLY BOOK! SAVE US FROM THESE DANG NEW FANGLED CONTRAPTIONS WHAT COME FROM THE DEVIL!

  • AuntieMadder

    The obots doth protest too much. The idiots.

    The number of trolls posting comments here and at other conservative blog sites that have posts up about the “applause” text going up on the what’s-it-tron, just to repeatedly inform conservative “idiots” that the text was closed captioning*, is a sure indicator that Prezdint Jackass has been busted in yet another lie. How many times over the last couple of years have his flying monkeys been sent into the conservative blogosphere in droves to comment on one story, and one story alone, in defense of their Obamessiah? At least a dozen times that I can recall right away and every one of those reported news stories were true as they were reported, his idiots only being useful in causing confusion and disrupting discussion.

    It’s starting to look the same way for the reports about the t-shirts having been printed and distributed by Organizing for America.

    *Some trolls have posted comments to inform us ‘tards that the text was “close (sic) caption (sic).” That they all misspelled “closed captioning” identically is a dead giveaway that their trolling intrusion has been organized – organized hastily by idiots, but organized none the less.

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  • kelly

    have u never heard of closed captioning or you really that dense? god bless president obama and god bless america.

  • bg

    ++

    joeyess #353

    no, this tops that by a Jumbotron.. 😀

    ==

  • bg

    ++

    AuntieMadder #372

    strange huh, it’s almost as if Jumbotron means as much to them as
    TOTUS means to Oman, like they’re all “family” or something.. 😀

    ==

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    Can one of you moonbats tell me what blog linked to this post? I want to go and read the comments there. kthnxbi!

  • JBinMD

    #360 January 16, 2011 at 2:29 pm
    StupidRepublicans commented:

    Jebus Freaking Christ!

    What the hell is wrong with you conservatives?

    IT WAS CLOSE CAPTIONING!
    Are you people so stupid that you don’t know that?

    Either that, or they are simply being intellectually dishonest liars. I don’t see a third option but if one exists I would appreciate if someone could explain it to me. kthxbye

    #362 January 16, 2011 at 2:40 pm
    Militant Conservative commented:

    I do not care if this was CC or not.

    Of course you don’t. You’re a conservative wing-nut, i.e. you are allergic to reality.

    #363 January 16, 2011 at 2:44 pm
    Militant Conservative commented:

    I think spartanUSMC needs to man up alittle.
    Pretty panty waisted for a devil dog.

    So he’s a pantywaist because he won’t sign on to your extreme level of crazy? Ok then, by that standard you are a complete pantywaist relative to people like David Koresh, Nero, John Hinckley, Caligula, Jim Jones, Charles Manson, etc etc. See how that works? he he

    Me thinks he doth protest too much. Civility anyone??
    Hell no I going to politically distroy the left.

    What are you going to destroy them with, your horrendous spelling? I ask because you clearly aren’t going to be able to do it with reality, logic, or the strength of your arguments. And no, shouting louder won’t make the things you say any truer.

    Librul Hippeh pwns you! YA, RLY. 🙂

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  • Militant Conservative

    #378 January 16, 2011 at 3:52 pm
    JBinMD commented:

    vision problems, but then you liberals are soooooo compassionate.

    Fear me if we ever meet. I do not go by the conservative playbook.
    I go by yours. Ends justify the means. I will obey the law when Obama
    obeys the constitution.

    Shove your red pen.

    powder is dry, and I do carry the same gun as the pot smoking lefty.

  • AuntieMadder

    Judging by the number of obot comments posted to this topic both here and at Atlas Shrugs, there must have been at least a bazillion deaf people there. Even worse, not only are those multitudes deaf, but apparently blind and lacking the sense of feeling, too, because, even being in the audience, they couldn’t have known that other audience members were applauding without it being spelled out for them on the jumbotron. (How those poor deaf, blind, and numb people read the jumbotron, I haven’t a clue, but it was obviously necessary that “[APPLAUSE]” be displayed on it for them.)

  • Andrew

    Sandy,

    I don’t know how I would have planned the memorial. That is rarely left to television producers. I just know how I would have covered it. If the event was so terrible, why did Republican officials like Gov. Brewer participate? Other elected Republican officials were there. I haven’t heard any criticism of the memorial from them. Someone mentioned spontaneity earlier in regard to the crowd. Like I said, I give all involved the benefit of the doubt. If you look for evil intent, you will always find it.

  • Andrew

    Auntie Madder,

    I’m not a troll or a flying monkey (?), but I deal in facts. Having produced several hundred hours of television for the past four years, I can tell you with certainty, CC uses APPLAUSE to indicate applause. I’m sure this doesn’t matter to you, but it does to me. I deal with the disabled community all the time and I’m very aware of their needs and the standards of closed-captioning. This really is a case of looking for any reason to smear the President, even if the reason is manufactured.

  • Andrew

    AM,

    Also, I believe the broadcast feed went to areas other than the arena. There are FCC requirement regarding access for the disabled. Closed-captioning isn’t some new invention.

  • notjenna

    @Jim at 1:26 pm:

    Now, do you really believe this crap, or like a good talk radio show host, you just throw it out there because you know how dull and uninformed and gullible your audience is?

    Jim, you may know this has become a standard technique for introducing specious and malicious memes into the blogosphere used by the folks you mention (and Jim Hoft). It’s called JAQing off and it works like this:

    JAQing off is the act of spouting accusations while cowardly hiding behind the claim of “Just Asking Questions”. The strategy is to keep asking leading questions in an attempt to influence listeners’ views; the term is derived from the frequent claim by the denialist that they are “Just Asking Questions”, albeit in a manner much the same as political push polls.

    OT*: Speaking of specious stories, whatever happened to Kenneth Gladney? He seems to have vanished from the face of the earth and I so wanted to read the book he was going to (did?) write.

    *Seems vaguely relevant since Hoft and a host of other wingers keep invoking his name as an example of “Leftist violence.”

  • Jonoli

    It’s closed captioning, like on any TV.

    Morons.

  • Militant Conservative

    #385 January 16, 2011 at 4:52 pm
    notjenna commented:

    It does not matter sweetie.
    Your trying to defend your president, cool. Cept you cannot defend what he did. That is why the question of CC is moot. He’s still a political hack at a memorial for the families to grieve. He planned it too, Tee shirts just don’t appear. This is the kind of president a bananna republic has not America. Obama disgraced himself and the office of president by such classless behavior.

    Wellstone memorial part two. He is searching very hard for some way to become relevant. He can’t, I sent the screen capture to all of my friends and co workers. This will go viral and will be seen on national television. So the uninformed might get a clue to the dictator in training pants.

    powder is dry

  • Andrew

    What would be good is if a transcriptionist would comment. They know what they are required to do. Often, tags like APPLAUSE or a G Clef for music is a preset key because it is the standard for CC.

  • Militant Conservative

    #383 January 16, 2011 at 4:48 pm
    Andrew commented:

    see comment #387

  • DigitalTroglodyte

    They’re still trying to explain closed captioning! Simply amazing. Hey Andy, there’s a new post up regarding the [Applause] closed captioning. Better go check it out and comment. It could use some expert remarks.

    400 or bust!

  • Militant Conservative

    Andrew,

    No Republican nor other Democrats printed Tee shirts for the upcoming elections. That leaves skippy swinging in the breeze. He also polled before the memorial pep rally. this is just showing the public how truley tasteless and tacky Obama is. Obama is sick, Malignant Narcissist sick. Look it up read the symptoms and tell us that this is not a sick man. powder is dry.

  • HaHa Hunter Henry

    OMG you people are more dim-witted than a single-cell amoeba! Good effing God, wake the hell up. It’s called closed-captioning. HaHaHaHa! What a bunch of A-holes.

  • Militant Conservative

    #392 January 16, 2011 at 5:38 pm
    HaHa Hunter Henry commented:

    I know its CC, that is why I said it does not matter.
    You lefterds have been punked.
    What I like is your actually trying to save the affirmative action presidents severely diminished image. Which he himself has screwed up.
    Kinda like Clinton cept Obama kept his pants on.

    TEE shirts at a memorial, 34 minutes speach, setting the stage for his next campaign. TACKY TACKY.

    Defend that

    powder is dry

  • Militant Conservative

    #394 January 16, 2011 at 5:56 pm
    ElCapitan commented:

    another punk read post #393.

  • Militant Conservative

    Can’t defend a terd in a punhbowl can you.

    The CC is not the question. The real question is: “this is the best America could do??”

    clean articulate with no negro dialect??? quote from Joe Biden

    Yup that there is presidential material all right.

    Unintended consequences of voting in a known socialist really suck huh.

    powder is dry

  • Sskar

    I was there. No prompts for applause. This was CC.

    The memorial was not a kick off for Obama. The meeting was OUR community dealing with OUR neighbors slaughtered, our Representative’s attempted assassination. If the mostly UA students cheered, whose business is it? If the UA gave t-shirts for the community’s shared grief – why do you care? Oh, right – politics as usual. Not here. Funerals are still going on.

    Hope no one stomps on your next grief experience.

  • Militant Conservative

    UA did not purchase the TEE shirts the Administration did.

    Shows the lack of civility of the UA crowd, at least the attendees.

    Keep shoveling, This was the same thing that happened at the Wellstone memorial pep rally. Democrats cannot help themselves.

    Your not too politically bright are you.

    powder is dry

  • myscar

    I was there, and it WAS a pep rally. I was TOTALLY disgusted that the concession stand didn’t have hot brown deli mustard for my footlong. The UA family always cheers at memorials. It’s our own special way of grieving.

    BTW, the nachos were teh suck.

  • notjenna

    @Militant Conservative at 5:15 pm:

    Hi sweetie!

    Your trying to defend your president, cool. Cept you cannot defend what he did.

    Where do I do that in my comment? Your reading skills are apparently equal to your command of English (you’re not one of those “English-only” types are you?). The rest of that paragraph is just demonstrably untrue, not needing further comment.

    This will go viral…

    Uh, it has. Mostly as an example of (Hoft’s and your) abject stupidity that sane people are pointing and laughing at.

    Powder is dry and plentiful.

    Why don’t you just say what you really mean instead of hiding behind your thinly veiled threats?

  • tweedster

    Close captioning. And yes, it does include audience reaction.

    What a lame post.

    EPIC FAILURE.

  • tweedster

    Militant Conservative commented:

    I am clownish and barely coherent. I am militant because my lack of ideas causes me to want to want lash out at things. That is also why I am CONservative.

  • Militant Conservative

    #399 January 16, 2011 at 6:21 pm
    notjenna commented:

    Now whoose the dunce. Powder is dry is a reference to being prepaired.
    Since the boy scouts already have that I like powder is dry.

    Politics is in everything. toilet (Al Gore) Plastic bags @ grocery store cuz you lil tree huggers did not want to cut down trees. etc…

    I know this is CC. DUH I just love you guys trying to make excuses for such poor behaivior for the anointed one. He’s a joke, a dangerous joke.

    Powder is dry

  • Militant Conservative

    I think I’m gonna cry, like a wuss liberal.

    The president is what America has seen.

    Not lashing out, I just call it as it is.

    Liberals are like cockaroaches they run from the light.

    powder is dry

  • jared

    you… mean the closed captioning?

  • Chisum
  • The word ‘school’ appears only once in the prepared text: “Judge John Roll served our legal system for nearly 40 years. A graduate of this university and its law school, Judge Roll was recommended for the federal bench by John McCain twenty years ago, appointed by President George H.W. Bush, and rose to become Arizona’s chief federal judge.”

    The jumbotron has applause after ‘school’ which referred to the university at which the memorial was held. It should be understandable the students would applaud an alumnus.

  • Chisum
  • Militant Conservative

    #406 January 16, 2011 at 6:41 pm
    Indigo Red commented:

    Thus proving the poor decision making ability of Obama to show up and make a specticle of the event. He can’t help it though as he is a malignant narcissist. look it up. BG on this thread had a wonderful example of what Bush did for the Fort Hood families. It’s not about the president its the families goodbye to a loved one. You lefties call yourself compasionate.

  • ian

    You folks have have brought conservatism to a new low. You have taken closed captioning for the hearing impaired and spun it into a vehicle for ignorance and hate.

  • Nowonmai

    “The following program is close captioned for the hearing impaired”. Do these words mean anything to you? Just when I thought you Tea-tards couldn’t get any dumber, you prove me wrong.

  • iam

    ian commented:
    You folks have have brought conservatism to a new low. You have taken closed captioning for the hearing impaired and spun it into a vehicle for ignorance and hate.

    You have brought blog post commenting to a new level of boring. Thanks for such an unoriginal remark considering ~300+ comments already stated the same thing you did. Keep it going. Tell your friend to push it past 500.

    Help stop the H8!!!

  • Nowonmai

    @militant conservative, you saying Mr Boo Hoo Boehner is a liberal wuss?

  • blowonmia

    You could have stopped at “just when I thought…”, because thought is beyond you.

  • Man, if you have a beef with policy, that’s one thing. Have at it. It’s good for the republic.
    But this is just ridiculous.

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  • Malcontent Militant Preservative

    Monsieur Militant Preservative,

    I don’t mind your baseless charges, school-boy epithets, or comically mixed metaphors, but when you deride our President, the emblem of our nation, you are deriding America. And, sir, I cannot allow you to belittle our great nation– My country tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing…
    Why is it, again, that you hate AMerica?

    Mayberry County is dry

  • Chimpy McKatrinaburton

    And, sir, I cannot allow you to belittle our great nation–

    Because dissent is no longer patriotic?

    You sir, are no American if you don’t support dissent.

  • Spike

    Dumbest article ever. It was a monitor for the hearing-impaired. It was not for the intelligence-impaired, but the writer of this article apparently can’t tell the difference.

  • Sharpshooter

    Closed Captioning doesn’t have audience reaction in real time, does it?

  • David

    Dear AuntieMadde

    Unbelievable. According to you, the more people that point out what is wrong with with your logic, the more it confirms that you are right.

    I’m sorry you are so closed off to reality and facts. It was closed captioning for the deaf, nothing more, nothing less.

    This doesn’t mean that you can’t or don’t have legitimate gripes about what Obama is doing. But this isn’t one of them. This is a plain, willful, stubborn desire on your part to be right, facts be damned.

  • Sharpshooter

    Why was the closed captioning presenting the same text CONCURRENTLY as from the TelePrompter?

  • Militant Conservative

    Love America ,Obama is a joke. Bonner may yet be a wuss.
    Our emblem of our country is the Eagle. Not walking eagle.
    He walks for he is so full of excrement he cannot fly.
    Not my president, I did not vote for the socialist pos hate America
    Non resident. This year is gonna be a rough year, brought to you by Obama.
    With willful intent he distroys America.
    Powder is dry.

  • Militant Conservative

    I hate rapists, terrorists, murderers. Obama is a passing terd.
    One term and done. November elections are nothing compared to the
    Whoopin coming in 2012. America does not like the democrats becoming so socialist.
    Rinos too, see a pattern? Cleaning our house and yours too.
    P.S. We in flyover land are taking back the power being misused.
    Powder is dry.

  • JPK

    Yes Sharpshooter, closed captioning does show the audience reaction in real time. Always has. There is no conspiracy other than those in your head.

  • Vanessa

    #402 Militant: You’re rich!! Not only are your posts factually and grammatically incoherent (not to mention filled with syntax errors), it would be quite beneficial if you invested in a dictionary. Really.

  • FD franko

    HA!

    It’s simply closed captioning with [applause], and Probably {2 treble clef’s signs} for Fanfare for a Common Man.

    Anti-Obama zealots are a funny bunch. Just look around at the birthers that still exist to this day. CRAZY!

  • #408 January 16, 2011 at 6:49 pm
    Militant Conservative commented:
    re: #406 January 16, 2011 at 6:41 pm
    Indigo Red commented:

    “Thus proving the poor decision making ability of Obama to show up and make a specticle of the event. He can’t help it though as he is a malignant narcissist. look it up.”

    I totally agree, MC. Obama can’t help but make himself the center of any event. What I’m saying is that ‘applause’ was not part of the script and Obama took advantage for his own needs.

    Oh, btw, I’m not a leftist as BG can tell you. Truth just means more to me than scoring political points.

  • FD franko

    “Thus proving the poor decision making ability of Obama to show up and make a spectacle of the event. He can’t help it though as he is a malignant narcissist. look it up.”

    Mr. Obama was invited. He represented America. It was his duty to be there.

    Had he turned down the event he would have been labeled by the right as aloof, much as Bush was criticized for the New Orleans flyby by the left.

    We as Americans want a Leader to feel pain with us. He was psychologically brilliant, spot on, not opportunistic. Even dead man walking appreciated Mr. Obama and said so. Middle America [ politically] appreciates that Obama had a good week.

    Obama-Bashers, Back off. you look PETTY.

    You ought pick your battles. There will be plenty in the next 2 years. Mourn and take a break, rejoice life and give Obama this one win. Even the worse teams win sometimes as the best teams occasionally loose.

  • Chiming in as yet another person who has worked with the deaf and hard of hearing: It is standard practice to include non-speech sounds in the transcript.

    AuntieMadder: there must have been at least a bazillion deaf people there. Even worse, not only are those multitudes deaf, but apparently blind and lacking the sense of feeling, too, because, even being in the audience, they couldn’t have known that other audience members were applauding without it being spelled out for them on the jumbotron.

    It wouldn’t matter if there was a single deaf attendee or not, they’d still be legally required by the Americans with Disabilities Act to provide the transcript. They usually have one transcriptionist provide the text for the jumbotron and the news networks. The vast majority of deaf people reading that transcript would not be present, so it wouldn’t matter whether or not applause would be “obvious” to attendees.

    Sharpshooter: Why was the closed captioning presenting the same text CONCURRENTLY as from the TelePrompter?

    It’s also standard practice to provide whoever’s typing the transcript with a copy of the planned speech. They still add incidental noises, or variations from the script.

  • Edited to correct HTML formatting:

    Chiming in as yet another person who has worked with the deaf and hard of hearing: It is indeed standard practice to include non-speech sounds in the transcript.

    AuntieMadder: there must have been at least a bazillion deaf people there. Even worse, not only are those multitudes deaf, but apparently blind and lacking the sense of feeling, too, because, even being in the audience, they couldn’t have known that other audience members were applauding without it being spelled out for them on the jumbotron.

    It wouldn’t matter if there was a single deaf attendee or not, they’d still be legally required by the Americans with Disabilities Act to provide the transcript. They usually have one transcriptionist provide the text for the jumbotron and the news networks. The vast majority of deaf people reading that transcript would not be present, so it wouldn’t matter whether or not applause would be “obvious” to attendees.

    Sharpshooter: Why was the closed captioning presenting the same text CONCURRENTLY as from the TelePrompter?

    It’s also standard practice to provide whoever’s typing the transcript with a copy of the planned speech. They still add incidental noises, or variations from the script.

  • Henry Hawkins

    Well, that certainly bears repeating, Michael.

  • KenDunbar

    The shirt should have read…

    “People were murdered by a lunatic in Tuscon, and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.”

  • MsZardi

    Ut-oh. . this asking for applause thing. . . it’s more widespread than we thought!

    http://jamesurbaniak.tumblr.com/post/278956970/the-mall-washington-dc-a-tyrannical-george-w

  • Henry Hawkins: Well, I figured some people reading here might have been stupid enough to not be able to tell which parts of my post were quoted if I didn’t make it absolutely clear. I’m considerate that way.

  • JoeTheDumber

    The entire internet is collectively laughing at the readers of this blog right now.

  • StupidRepublicans

    @Militant Conservative commented:

    “I do not care if this was CC or not. Obama is still a classless individual with socialsit roots. (dyed or not)”

    So you’re saying that you really don’t care about the truth, that you live your life through partisan colored glasses and that you don’t have enough honor to admit when you’re wrong.

    Gotcha.

    You sir, are part of the problem. Maybe it’s time you take a good look at the hateful, spittle filled person you are.

  • Chimpy McKatrinaburton

    JoeTheDumber commented:
    The entire internet is collectively laughing at the readers of this blog right now.

    Joe, that would include you! BTW, you chose an appropriate moniker.

  • Militant Conservative

    Too all. Just wanted to see how long trolls would bite.
    Apparetly indefinitely , linked again.

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  • talula badula

    Georgia Guy, how do you talk to these idiots? Hateful people. And dumb.

  • Bernard Webb

    What a bunch of dopes are commenting here. One of you sees closed captioning, which we have had for decades, and mistakes it for a crowd direction. Then the sheep jump in with their mindless ObamaHate.

    Every ten comments or so, someone points out that it is a normal process in live closed captioning to insert notes like “[applause]” or “[thunderclap]” so that deaf people know what the rest of us are hearing.

    Notice how these comments, which totally disprove the entire premise of the article, are completely ignored by all other commenters. This is how conservatives behave. When you prove them wrong, they ignore you, then “double down” and believe the lie more strongly than before it was disproven. Folks, this is just not how the human brain is intended to work.

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  • Bernard Webb

    Perhaps it’s time to remind people that, to a large degree, conservatives rely on emotion (principally fear and hate) rather than logic because THEIR BRAINS ARE DIFFERENT FROM OURS.

    Here’s the research:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1342239/Brain-study-reveals-right-wing-conservatives-larger-primitive-amygdala.html

    Finally, the otherwise inexplicable behavior of wingnuts is explained. I am not sure whether I am comforted by the fact that they cannot help being this way due to what amounts to a birth defect. I just wish we could “cure” people of conservatism the way wingnuts think they can “cure” gay people, who also can’t help the way they are.

  • Chimpy McKatrinaburton

    Bernie, did you just imply that gays have a birth defect? Doesn’t sound very tolerant-y!?

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  • Bernard Webb

    I said that gay people did not choose to be gay, they were born that way. People with brown eyes did not “choose” to have brown eyes; they were born that way.

    Conservatives believe, I guess, that each person “decides” at some critical point in their youth whether to be attracted to the opposite sex or their same sex, with the ones who choose “same sex” becoming gay through their own choice at that moment. Liberals realize that there is no such “choice” involved. (Did you “choose” to be straight on one memorable day? I didn’t. I just gradually noticed that girls were looking more and more interesting to me.)

    Why then, do I consider conservatism, and not brown eyes, or gayness, to be a “birth defect”? Good question! For me, the reason is this. When a large group of people with over-developed emotional centers and under-developed reasoning centers join forces, supported by greedy corporate interests willing to manuipulate such people through propaganda TV channels and overwrought, paranoid radio hosts, the result is a divided country with thinking people on one side and highly-emotional, critical-thinking-challenged people on the other. The resulting turmoil is damaging America in a way that the presence/existence of gay people, or brown-eyed people, or even terrorists for that matter, could never do.

    A difference that doesn’t matter, like gayness, is not destructive to our society and culture. Today’s caricature version of conservatism most assuredly is. Therefore I see it as a defect rather than just an interesting difference. If your car is a different color than mine, that’s interesting but it doesn’t matter. If your car periodically explodes, it is defective. Sorry, that’s just the way I see it.

  • Chimpy McKatrinaburton

    I don’t give a crap who or what you choose to screw. Your “birth defect” theory falls apart when you have to face the fact that people’s ideology change throughout life. Liberals become conservative, and vice versa. Did their emotional centers suddenly become over-developed, and reasoning centers under-developed?

    Please resume your rant. If nothing esle, it is amuzing.

  • Chimpy McKatrinaburton

    Bernard, can you tell me what blog linked this article. And while you’re at it, what are the three blogs you frequent the most. I’d be curious to read the ones that influence your thinking, i.e., share your point of view.

  • Chisum

    When a large group of people with over-developed emotional centers and under-developed reasoning centers join forces

    Hey Ding-Dong,

    Everyone knows that you are describing LIBERALS. They are all about feel-wings. And intentions. And excusing failures; citing unhappy childhoods, PTSD, discrimination, etc.

    LIBERALS are all about EXCUSES and not taking personal responsibility for their actions!

    So, carry on, LIBERAL. As #447 wrote, If nothing else, it’s amusing.

  • M Frog Labott
  • Chisum

    CMK @ #448,

    Let me take a stab at that.

    1. Media Matters
    2. Daily Kos
    3. Huff Po

  • Patsy

    Reading about this closed-captioning “scandal,” I can only quote Antoine Dodson: “You are soooo dumb! You are really dumb!” And you don’t do your side any favors by putting this dumbness out there.

  • Joe Donut

    Get a brain morans

  • Casey

    Ever hear of closed-captioning for the deaf? What an idiot!

  • Chimpy McKatrinaburton

    Joe, if you can’t spell “morons”, you’ve no business referring to others as such.

  • stunned
  • Kent

    DEMOCRATS

    [LAUGHTER]

  • Chisum

    Here is a classic example of how liberals think.

    Sarah Palin Blood Libel aka LIBERAL LOGIC

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7LNJqQ527q4#!

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  • Shih Tzu

    Hahahaha, congratulations! You’re famous on Wonkette for being the dumb! Next time, ask your deaf or hard of hearing friends how closed captioning works first.

    Chimpy McKatrinaburton: It’s a reference to the internet-famous photograph of the trailer-trash-looking conservative protester dude with the sign “GET A BRAIN MORANS / GO USA”. You’re forgiven for not knowing about it, though, as it likely has more traction in progressive circles.

  • mrfell

    That is closed captioning. Closed captioning also includes the audience response, including applause. Relax people.

  • Sofaking Wetodded

    2 words.. [Closed Captions]

  • Ted

    Really looks like Closed Caption to me. If it were prompting, it would say ‘Applaud’ or ‘clap’ instead. Either way, turning a memorial into a pep-rally is your typical immature liberal mentality.

  • Poindexter

    Closed captioning always reflects applause this way, Mensa.

  • George Washington

    You are so dumb it’s painful. It’s called CLOSED CAPTIONING. It’s a new invention (mid to late twentieth century) so someone who can’t hear can read what’s going on.

  • Clarissa

    The entire deaf community is laughing at the writer of this article right now. Good job.

  • Bob

    Is Gateway Pundit really that much of a moron? Yes. Yes she is.

  • Chisum

    Hey Bob, are you that much of a moron?

    But one thing on which we can all agree is that that the White House wrote the speech, and apparently added “applause” indicators into Obama’s speech that the university put on the Jumbotron in their captioning for the audience.

    The university was responsible for most of the problems that did occur, and detracted from a very good speech from President Obama. But it’s hard to imagine that the university inserted the “[APPLAUSE]” tags that went with the captioning on the Jumbotron on their own. How would the organizers know which lines were intended for applause space? That had to come from the speech provided to the organizers by the White House for the purpose of displaying the captioning, and obviously Obama gives the final approval on his speeches, as do all Presidents. The White House may not have intended for those tags to appear on the screen (they could have been intended as stage directions for Obama, which would still be a little crass), but if not, they shouldn’t have had them in the speech in the first place.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/01/17/obamateurism-of-the-day-429/

  • tom

    You’re making an ass of yourself with this. Knock it off.

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  • Roma

    179/Slappy: Face it, both sides make outlandish claims against their opponents. Just think about the various insults and accusations tossed out against Bush or Palin on a regular basis. Pretending that your side doesn’t do it is deeply dishonest and is the antithesis of someone with so-called “critical thinking faculties.”

    Slappy, I’m on the left side and I’m constantly reminding my fellow lefties that the right doesn’t have a patent on outrageous claims (or hatred of politicians or violent rhetoric…e.g. there were “Kill Bush” signs at anti-Bush protests) and I was one of the few people on my lefty blog who didn’t jump on the Sarah-Palin’s-crosshairs-map-was-the-reason-Loughner-chose-Giffords train.

    That being said, I do feel that the right does this to a greater degree — the hysterical vitriol over this “applause” sign amazes me (and a tip of the hat to reasonable people like Jen @ 42: “I am no fan of Obama but that is closed captioning.”) — although, of course, I’m sure you and others on the right feel the left is worse.

  • Ship of Fools

    Wow. The stupidity here is amazing.

  • Roma

    452/Patsy, that Antoine Dodson remix was one of the funniest things I saw last year!

  • Roma

    443/Bernard, I heard about that study recently. Very interesting. But you’re misinterpreting the results. As noted below, one of the possibilities is that political attitudes affect the brain structure, rather than the other way around.

    ‘The amygdala is a part of the brain which is very old and very ancient and thought to be very primitive and to do with the detection of emotions. The right amygdala was larger in those people who described themselves as conservative.

    ‘It is very significant because it does suggest there is something about political attitudes that are either encoded in our brain structure through our experience or that our brain structure in some way determines or results in our political attitudes.’

    Also while I do think that conservatives tend to be driven by emotion (particularly fear) more than liberals, it’s hardly black and white. There are reasonable conservatives and emotional liberals.

  • we’re #1, they”re #2

    What on earth is wrong with you people? Every village has its’ idiot, we used to walk away shaking our heads, now we hand them a megaphone and stand in awe of their ignorance and stupidity. ( Hate to do this to the genius who’s about to say “TELEPROMPTER11!!!!!!!11 THAT OBAMA SURE IS STUPID HEHEHEHEHE. ) But I’m referring to you not him. Go away and be ashamed of yourselves.

  • Cascom

    You dolts don’t realize how closed captioning works? Seriously? My God.

    Like the way Militant Conservative is threatening violence, btw. Typical of your type.

  • Sannity

    OMG, the Obama-care administration has again revealed their true nature! Forcing unsuspecting true-blood Americans to clap when they really didn’t want to, by having the closed-captioning writer reflect the applause as it occurred! OMG! If any of you have ever seen cc before, you’d know that not only is applause mentioned, but so is even background music… I suppose this makes sense if you can force someone to do something after it actually happened, but otherwise, how about you all get actual lives, and STOP BEING SO UNBELIEVABLY PARANOID!!!!!

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  • Mark

    If you really believe the audience was prompted to applaud, you need to get out more. A lot more. And not to a Price is Right taping. Geez.

  • dbgill56

    Its closed captioning you idiot

  • Mike

    It’s called ‘closed captioning’ you idiots.

  • Randy

    Dumber and dumber.

  • notjenna

    Wow! The circle has closed. Hoft publishes this on Saturday morning and it goes viral for its abject stupidity and the stunning credulity of many of the commenters. Monday morning, almost 48 hours later, Ed Morrissey boards the crazee train and posts his “scoop”

    I’m not sure what this says exactly but two things occur to me. One is that Hoft is a harder worker than Morrissey and even works through weekends in his quest to find fuel for the irrational Obama hate. The other is that both these guys apparently came to the same stupid conclusion independently! A nice object lesson in the workings of the wingnut hive mind. Thanks guys!

    Oh, one more thing, doesn’t Morrissey do any research before writing? A simple Google search would have clued him into the fact that he was about to dive into the same pool of stupid that Hoft had been swimming in all weekend.

  • Jeebus

    You people are idiots. It’s closed captioning…and yes, CC includes audience reaction. Hey Jim Hoft…great job on stirring the pot and making something that wasn’t an issue into one. Is this the only way to rally your base?

  • wtf123

    Here’s another Obama speech as seen on screen:

    “So today, we’re here to take two more steps on that journey. First of all, on Tuesday, I signed Rosa’s Law. This is named for a nine-year-old girl, right there — Rosa, wave to everybody. (Applause.) That’s some good waving there, Rosa. (Laughter.)”

    Clearly closed captioning. That’s what the CC people do during a live event, they transcribe not only the speech but the audience reaction.

    You wingnuts are seriously amusing. Do you realize that Americans are laughing at you? Giving the level of your simple-mindedness, I’m guessing you don’t.

  • we’re #1, they”re #2

    Wow! Don’t you folks on the right realize that this site is a liberal scheme to make you look dumb. Or is it?

  • What the Holy Heck

    You people have seriously never heard of closed captioning before? It is a TRANSCRIPTION of the event, reporting on what was said and what occurred, not a script. For God’s sake.

    Watch your teevees with the CC on some time, people. It also includes things like musical notes to show that music is playing and descriptions of sound effects.

    You’d have to be either an idiot or a troll of the highest order to try to put forth this story to advance a political agenda.

  • whatever

    Thanks everybody! I really enjoyed this page, because it confirms, better than anything I could have come up with myself, that most dittoheads are just plain rock-stupid. I knew that already, but this page is effing hilarious. I mean, it WOULD be hilarioius, if it weren’t for postings like those of MilitaryConservative. That guy is stupid AND evil.

  • neun

    closed captioning. common people. it is required by law that television companies provide CC for the hearing impaired.

  • Seaweed

    I would have thought that anyone commenting on the media would know about the ADA law regarding closed captioning. I guess I would be wrong.

    http://www.captions.org/caplaw.cfm

  • tanarg

    Might be smart to figure out what the dang thing IS before you go off all half-cocked. Doncha think?

  • teabag this you idiots

    OMG! You baggers are the dumbest sheep in all of history.

    [Applause]

  • taygee

    rush mentioned it on the air today, which was the ultimate goal of this story.

    Hoft – 1 | Truth – 0

  • PaineintheThomas

    Really, the Conservatives are so out of touch they don’t know how CC works?

  • Wow, it scares me to think I ever associated my (former) blog or my brain with the right-wing.

    This Obama Derangement Syndrome is like BDSx100.

    It’d be laughable, except you can actually vote.

  • I once saw a closed-caption that said “[SINGING]” and I was all like “OH YEAH? HOW WOULD A DEAF PERSON KNOW?”

    I’m no dummy.

    Sarah 2012, my friends!

  • Jeffrey

    The comments on this blog are an interesting read. The mental hoops one must jump through to mock and hate Obama require lies told to oneself and to others. Twisting truth to justify a position is a sad way to run one’s politics, but this is lost on the majority of Tea Party folk and staunch right-wing Republicans. Sad.

  • politics_nerd

    Why does Closed Captioning hate America??

  • calmer than you are

    I invite everyone to hit the closed captioning button on their remote control and see KENYAN SOCIALISM AT WORK.

  • ObamasBirthCertificate

    Because it’s closed-captioning you retards. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What a bunch of morons!

  • AwedPasserby

    Amazing. Just amazing. It doesn’t get much better than watching the dumbest, most hate-filled, obtuse, intellectually dishonest, clowns in the country voluntarily demonstrating the worthlessness of the views they mindlessly espouse without the faintest effing idea of what they’re even raging against. Hopefully this episode, which should be an embarrassment to anyone involved, will help move at least a few of you in the direction of common sense. The country needs sane conservative ideas to be a part of the conversation, not this childish, quasi-religious frothing at the mouth built on a mountain of lies and deliberate misinformation.

  • notjenna

    I just checked the OP to see if Hoft had added a correction. I see that his final update links Guy Benson at Townhall who sees through the smoke laid down by this poutrage. Not a correction to the OP, an update, which you have to click through to see a conservative wasting his time blowing away the smoke. It’s telling that Benson includes as his Update II this:

    Ed, whose pursuit of the truth always takes precedence over adherence to the political ideology he and I share, has revised his post to reflect my concerns. No reference to Hoft.

    Oh well, just Hoft being his usual mendacious self. Whattaya gonna do?

  • jim

    Applause at a memorial or a eulogy? Fairly common. Use of “applause” in CC? Also common. People desperate to smear those they disagree with getting caught out clutching at straws? By far the most common of all – in more ways than one.

  • Militant Conservative

    Trolls can’t read.

    I stated in this thread that it was CC, the truth of the pep rally is this: The presidents decision making ability is poor to nill. He is the FIRST AFFIRMATIVE ACTION COMMUNITY ORGANIZER and he makes Jimmy Carter look smart. (that’s hard to do)

    As I said I loved just yanking the lefts chain mercilessly.
    Since when does the truth matter to the left?

    Remember this is war and I use the lefts tactics with a few undisclosed of my own.

  • Militant Conservative

    #498 January 17, 2011 at 9:17 pm
    Jeffrey commented:

    Jeffy, what lie did I state. I said the CC is just a ruse.
    The real story is the thought process (lack of) of the president.

    He actually thought he’d bet a bump in the polls. He did, 1 point down.

    Obama is bad for America. I am more qualified to be president and probably so are you than Obama. He’s a socialist which means everything he does is to bring us closer to the socialist utopian dream. i.e. healthcare.

    We’re so crazy here that We the people kicked Democrats out of power peacefully. Hmmmm, just a fluke…??? Nope the TPM is exceptionally strong for it is made up of Americans who beleive in the rule of law and the constitution. powder is dry.

  • Marty

    This is really embarrassing, guys. Closed Captioning has been around for freakin’ DECADES. Not a new technology. Please continue justified, reasonable criticism of the president, but know that you undermine your efforts completely with contrived, faux-outrage stuff like this.

  • JimL

    The title of this post ‘If White House Was Surprised by Applause at Tucson Pep Rally… Why Did They Ask For It On Jumbotron?’ is a bald faced lie. What is shown in the inflammatory picture of your post is called closed captioning, certainly you’ve heard of it by now. Please follow the link below to see that the captions that are shown on the jumbotron lag behind the spoken word of the President, as would be expected for closed captioning of a live event:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QK4uMgZSN0&t=2m14s

    So the word [Applause] is the closed captioning technician describing what is transpiring to the hearing impaired audience as the event is occurring, and not a prompting of the audience whatsoever. In fact putting a description of what is occurring inside of brackets [ ] is a standard procedure for all closed captioning.

    When people are lying just to score political points, when people lie just to enhance their standing with their ilk on a discussion board, it truly makes my blood boil. If you folk are all about personal responsibility then you will correct your article and admit you lied or were mistaken. If not then we will all know that your words are meaningless, that your actions do not follow your convictions.

    President Obama asked that we make a democracy that Christina Taylor Green could be proud of. But I’d bet you that Christina knew the difference between the truth and a lie. I bet she knew that using a lie to drive a wedge between people was wrong. I bet, at 9 years old, she knew those things.

  • Jim

    Hey, get a life you right-wingers. The president was obviously uncomfortable with the applause. Yes, he could have asked for quiet, but he didn’t. The audience was mostly college students. Have you ever tried to control them? Can’t be done. I think the conservatives are obviously upset by the beautiful, heart-felt speech he gave. They just can’t give Obama a break. Everything he does is wrong wrong bad bad. This is our country he’s trying to save after what Dubya did to it. You should all be trying to help instead of making cheap criticisms.

  • CrPoo

    The right-wingers tried the same crap at Paul Wellstone’s funeral too. It’s called “closed-captioning!” For those tea-partiers that don’t know what that is, look it up on Wikipedia. Good gawd – Jim Hoft must be really stupid to think that people are that stupid to believe him. Or maybe I’m that stupid to believe that people aren’t that stupid? 🙂

  • Chisum

    President Obama asked that we make a democracy that Christina Taylor Green could be proud of. But I’d bet you that Christina knew the difference between the truth and a lie. I bet she knew that using a lie to drive a wedge between people was wrong. I bet, at 9 years old, she knew those things.

    ====================================================
    Obama’s Tucson Memorial Speech Was More Manipulation

    When Obama said we need to tone down our language for Christina Green, the little girl who was killed in the shooting, it turned my stomach.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/obamas_tucson_memorial_speech.html

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  • Thank you to the anonymous person who left a comment on my blog and a link to come here. There is now no doubt that the entire event was manipulated. Why is it that no media cameras picked up the jumbotron???

  • Militant Conservative

    READ the thread left wing moonbats.

    I know it’s CC. I did my posts to infuriate the left. Worked too.

    Since when does the truth matter to the left???

    #509 January 18, 2011 at 10:27 am
    Jim commented:

    Jim, the president IS a socialist/progressive (same thing).

    Now then Obama cannot help America for his ideology and economic theory has never worked anywhere in the world. Keysian economic theory cnnot and will not work. Obama is not trying to save America. He is trying to “Fundamentally change America”. Obama said this and that is a progressive half truth. This is what I took from the pep rally.
    The administration planned ahead too. Time enough to run a poll of what he should say and print tee shirts. RAH RAH go democrats.

    First black affirmative action community organizer ever put in the WH.
    How’s that working out for America?? Kinda not working out so well.

    Now then is the mistake of CC worse than the MSM propaganda machine?
    How bout the socialist agenda by the president?? Constitution says we are a representative republic. Obama is nothing but a Traitor, that is IF he can prove he was born here. powder is dry.

  • bigyaz

    And the right-wing nutjobs humiliate themselves once again with lies and, quite simply, idiocy.

    Yet no doubt they’ll be right back at it again, manufacturing lies to spew their brand of hatred and vitriol. They’re an embarrassment to our country.

  • Mister Conner

    As a disabled American I find it funny you don’t know about closed captioning for deaf or hearing impaired audience members. You might not want to turn the closed captioning for the hearing impaired into a political attack, better to choose something else to attack. Hearing disabled veterans might have an issue if you deny them close captioning. DID YOU KNOW THE TELEVISED CONGRESS HAS CLOSED CAPTIONING? Although not much applause there. They don’t close caption snoring.

  • Dina

    Oh for Chrissake, have you troglodytes never heard of closed captioning?

    *massive eye roll*

  • otto

    Oh man. That’s rich.

    Why do you guys still even have this post up?

    If I had made such a stupid mistake, I wouldn’t want to keep drawing attention to it.

    Have you guys honestly never been to a bar with a game that was showing the close captioning? Have you never wanted to have some subtitles to a movie you’re watching on TV?

    I swear that the commenters who took this seriously can’t be real people. They have to be plants or something.

    What on Earth could explain such mind boggling distance from reality?

  • sick and tired

    It seems that the liberals here are trying to use the “Closed Captioning” as an excuse. So, the idiota students are reading the “applause” and they just robotically start clapping and hooting and hollering. “Duh, it said applause.” I suppose that would go along with the theory that the liberals are the ones that need to be told what to do and how to act all the time, because they don’t know how to act when left on their own.

    The other point they just don’t get, is the White House stated that they had no idea why the idiotas were applauding.

  • JimL

    sick and tired – Hhrrmmph [Heavy Sigh]

    For the umpteenth time, the closed captioning of live events lags several seconds behind the spoken word. So the closed captioning descriptive [Applause] would never show up on the screen unless people were already applauding.

    Please see this link [Again] to understand how this works:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QK4uMgZSN0&t=2m14s

  • notjenna

    @Militant Conservative at 1:10 pm:

    Hi sweetie!

    READ the thread left wing moonbats.

    I know it’s CC. I did my posts to infuriate the left. Worked too.

    You should know that what you see as “infuriated leftys” is really a cloud of Moonbats* (like me) pointing and laughing with at you.

    *I love this term. I’m proud to be associated in any way with George Monbiot!

  • Joan Wallis

    I live in this community and we were offended that students at the U of A were more mesmarized with the speaker than the reason he was there in the first place — to memorialize those innocent AZ citizens including little 9 yr. old Christina-Taylor…this was definitely staged…”You can’t let a crisis or a tragedy go to waste, folks” — any thing to make the POTUS look great with his rhetoric sounding more like a Thomas Jefferson or a President Reagan than the present Far-Left occupier of the White House. Staged and inappropriate — the whistling and the clapping and the cheering — belongs in a Pep Rally or at a Rock Concert not at an event whose purpose was to memorialize those victims killed or injured by a mentally-unbalanced gunman.

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  • Seriously?

    This is STILL up??? Ha!

    Well, you’re idiots, but you’re honest idiots. Kudos to owning up to mistakes, and not scrubbing the website like-some-other-idiot-conservatives-i-could-name….

  • Faultline USA commented:

    Why is it that no media cameras picked up the jumbotron???

    Could it be because they were focused on either A) The stage, or B) The audience’s _faces_?

  • A Johnson

    Here goes the spin from the right. That’s close captioning.

  • Militant Conservative

    Woohoo, still spinning your heads.

    Love reading your outrage and vitriol.

    powder is dry.

  • sam bottoms

    Ever hear of closed captioning morons?

  • Jack Carter

    It’s closed captioning, doofus. And you still haven’t posted a correction.

  • we’re #1, they”re #2

    Hey folks , Tucson is what your second amendment remedy looks like, how do you like it? Big talk and dead children. What’s missing here is the fact that the bile, hatred and delusion we’re seeing is the logical conclusion of thirty years of the idea that government is not us trying to solve problems but that government is the problem. Once you sign on to that mentality you may be able to win elections but you cannot govern effectively. How’s that hatey killy thing working out for you?

  • Militant Conservative

    #530 January 19, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    we’re #1, they”re #2 commented:

    Oh I see, so Laughner had a conceal carry permit and was background checked like me huh? Been carrying for over a decade with no problems.

    Gun sales have skyrocketed since the sunset of the 1994 gun ban going away and crime statistics from the fed prove that more guns = less crime. The most restricted states however have the highest crime rates.

    Just like global warming. If it is hot in the summer you guys think the world is on fire.

    When is order restored in such events anyway???? When responsible people with guns show up. (one of them was a conceal carry person)
    This did not fit the propaganda lefts agenda so it was spiked from the stories. powder is dry. liberals are sheep.

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  • Militant Conservative

    I see the well has run dry. No more libturd tears to water the flowers.

    You want a civil society? Truth? You guys cannot handle the truth.

    Your entire worldview is a lie.

    So Jim missed on this one. He still hit political gold.

    Wasting liberals time and effort is as satisfying as seeing you cry after the adults take power away from petulant children. Your killing America for a utopian ideal that has never worked, but you also follow a narcissist affirmative action community organizer. How stupid you gotta be to beleive his tripe??? powder is dry.

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  • emtae

    Is the Mo-tard Hoff still sticking by his story? LOL

    Thanks for making all of us conservatives look as bad as the left paints us.

    Xenu wept.

  • Militant Conservative

    CC boo boo vs. the decision making (lack there of) of the first black affirmative action community organizer. Poor judgement to print tee shirts yet he polled before going. Spoke for 34 minutes about platatudes without compassion for the families loss. THIS is what America saw. Not the CC, They saw a pep rally and the pure tackyness of the occupant of the WH. President is a nacissist. Sick puppy. powder is dry.

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  • Chris

    Thank you, Jim Hoft, for once again proving that you are a liar and an idiot.

    Militant Conservative, do you think that disparagingly mentioning the president’s race in every single one of your posts might make people think you are a racist?

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  • Militant Conservative

    Did not mention his race. Did not vote against him because of it.
    The racist’s voted FOR him because of his skin tone.
    Him being black is the ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT HIM.

    You see being a black conservative is very negative in my world for your not “down with the struggle”. I don’t take handouts. I earned my pay and position in life. Skippy here is just another plantation negro.

    Besides I detest his policies of socialist redistribution.

    Run along now, you must have to point fingers at someone else and say raaaacist. cry me a river panty waist. powder is dry.

  • Chris

    Militant Conservative–“Did not mention his race.”

    Do you and Jim Hoft simply not understand that it’s really easy to go back and look at what someone has said on the Internet?

    In comment #536 you wrote “CC boo boo vs. the decision making (lack there of) of the first black affirmative action community organizer.”

    In #533 you wrote “Your killing America for a utopian ideal that has never worked, but you also follow a narcissist affirmative action community organizer.”

    In #514 you wrote “First black affirmative action community organizer ever put in the WH.
    How’s that working out for America?? Kinda not working out so well.”

    In #505 you wrote “He is the FIRST AFFIRMATIVE ACTION COMMUNITY ORGANIZER and he makes Jimmy Carter look smart. (that’s hard to do)”

    Like Hoft, you are not only a liar–you’re also so stupid that you can’t see how obvious your lies are.

  • Militant Conservative

    Your an Idiot, I CAN SAY BLACK, you can’t.

    Sit down and shut up. Whitey cannot say anything to a brother but I can. GET IT????? This is what YOUR LIBERAL MIND has brought us.

    I also said I use the lefts tactics. Got a copy of Rules for Radicals on the wall.

    Made you waste your time getting an education.

    Besides just like Clinton “That’s in the past and not relevant.

    LOL too easy.

  • Chris

    Sorry, I only respond to people who can form coherent sentences.

    Does MC remind anyone else of that kid in third grade who pissed his pants and then was all, “I meant to do that! See? Hilarious!” and then acted like it was everyone else who should be embarrassed?

  • Militant Conservative

    My MY the lil wee ones are getting nastier and nastier.

    I discribe the president in accurate terms and all you have is a monkeys rant and throwing feces. nice try primate.

    Powder is dry

  • Militant Conservative

    Prince William has his head on straight. Good for him. Great !!!

    Perhaps you have already seen the news that broke about this in late Dec…although NOT in the main stream press here in the USA.

    Prince William and Kate Middleton wedding:

    President Barack Obama and Michelle are not invited!

    Michelle is livid over the snub and Obama can’t believe it…What is happening and what can I do about it seems to be the thoughts in Obama’s head. Meanwhile, William and Kate have it together.

    Prince William and Kate Middleton are planning a royal wedding April, 2011. Prince William personally told the wedding planners to strike the Obama’s from the guest list. He stated, “He did not want Michelle Obama trying to pull her center of attention ploy trying to upstage Kate on Kate’s wedding day”. Sources reveal that William states, “She may run Obama, but she doesn’t run him or England ”. The Democrats and Obama would like to play the race card as they have done so many times in America, but it is difficult when other black heads of states are invited to the wedding and will be warmly received.

    Now, what are the future King of England’s reasons for snubbing the Obama’s to the world and making them a laughing stock. It has nothing to do with America beyond being so stupid as to elect such low class imperfection to the office of President and First Lady. The decisions that they make can and will affect the World.

    Secondly, Michelle called his mother Diana an over sexed clothes horse and further stated that she, Michelle, was more popular than Diana ever was. Thirdly, Michelle Obama showed her butt at every major social function endeavoring to be the Queen in the lime light. In other words, just a lack of class. Fourthly, the Queen Mother, William’s grandmother also has her reasons. Obama refused to bow to her, but a few days later bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia . Michelle manhandled her by becoming too familiar by putting her arm around her. The Queen only shakes hands with gloves on…Those are the traditions and it are still honored by the Royals. The Queen said to her staff, “Never allow that woman to be in the same room with me again” and she meant every word of it. The gifts from Obama and Michelle were both tacky and in poor taste…It is all a matter of class. In addition the Queen Mother supported Prince William in his decision, due to the fact, the word is out about the lavish booze parties at the White House, the expensive vacations and state visits that cost the American tax payers billions of dollars un-necessarily when the American people need the resources…We here at True American can’t decide if it is: Just low class, no class, big a_s or all that has just been mentioned.

    The Obama’s are desperately trying to make it a slight against America . Every past Head of State has always been invited…This is not a state function and William is not yet a Sovereign. It is just a multi-million dollar private wedding and the Obama’s have been royally snubbed by the British Royals; not America, just the present classless leaders…

    The True American!!

    ISN’T IT NICE THAT PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD CAN SEE WHAT THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT & HIS WIFE REALLY ARE, YET HALF OF AMERICA DON’T SEE THE A/HOLES AS THEY REALLY ARE !!!

  • Militant Conservative

    Noticed all the left can complain about is the CC. NONE could defend Mr. Obama’s actions or decision making ability. LOL

    Post 545 is correct. the Queen Mum NEVER wants the Obama’s in her presence, EVER AGAIN. She is refined and has taste and knows political protocol. Obama’s are just classless and tacky little heathen’s.

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  • Oracle

    Wow. Who let MC out of the asylum/special needs class? Where’s the handler?

  • Militant Conservative

    Just making sure the lefties have a little spoonfull of truth, it’s all ya’ll can handle. #548 and I carry a gun and work in hospital OR rooms.

    I’m the one taking care of the rest of YOU.

    powder is dry

  • Oracle

    All ya’ll? Oh my. I’ve read your posts. You don’t fool me. You’re not fooling anybody with your “spoonfulls” of truth, sir. First of all, you can’t make it as relevant staff in a hospital OR room not understanding the difference between “your” and “you’re” – which you’ve made clear that you don’t in about half of your posts – unless YOU’RE sweeping s**t off the floors. Which you no doubt are. Lots of people work in hospitals son, from doctors to JANITORS. From the top to bottom. Not all of “ya’ll” are special. Doctors have to understand basic language skills – the cleaning help, not so much.

    Oh here you are, with your delusions of grandeur. You flaunt this “truth” and that “knowledge” and now you have a computer with a cute little moniker and you come here and you think you can talk down to the “libturds” and spin a story and think you have an impact. WE KNOW YOU’RE A PIECE OF CRAP. You can learn a lot in a prison library. We still don’t care. You’re still wrong, and you’re still an idiot.

    So go ahead, the powder is dry, blah blah blah. My dad repeated himself a lot too, the drunk he was.

    You think you’re something to be proud of, that you’ve done your race a justice of some kind. You’re actually the most shameful of the lot. Ones like you are the reason why I vote for the white guy by default. Just to keep the power out of your hands.

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  • Chris

    So now MC thinks a tabloid story proves something about Obama. Hilarious.

    Oracle–what the hell? I was with you until your last, racist paragraph. Not OK.