FRANKLIN GRAHAM & NY TIMES AGREE!… Obama Was Born a Muslim (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, August 20, 2010, 12:45 PM
The Reverend Franklin Graham told CNN’s John King that:
“The President’s problem is that he was born a Muslim.”
Franklin Graham on Obama’s Muslim heritage:
“Well, first of all I think the president’s problem is that he was born a Muslim. His father was a Muslim. The seed of Islam is passed through the father like the seed of Judaism is passed through the mother. He was born a Muslim. His father gave him an Islamic name.”
Crooks and Liars has the full clip where Graham also states that Obama says he became a Christian later in life.
Of course, The New York Times reported the same thing back in 2008:
Senator Obama is half African by birth and Africans can understandably identify with him. In Islam, however, there is no such thing as a half-Muslim. Like all monotheistic religions, Islam is an exclusive faith.
As the son of the Muslim father, Senator Obama was born a Muslim under Muslim law as it is universally understood. It makes no difference that, as Senator Obama has written, his father said he renounced his religion. Likewise, under Muslim law based on the Koran his mother’s Christian background is irrelevant.
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Published May 24, 2012 at 8:46 pm - 91 Comments
StandUp4Chuck commented:
Looks like, talks like, walks like…. hes a muslim.
zipity commented:
There you go again clouding this issue with facts…..
down with dems commented:
Let’s see… “Islam” listed as religion on school application, Cairo speech, the dumping-on-America world tour, repeatedly bowing, describing the call to prayer as the most beautiful sound, withholding opinion on whether Ground Zero Mosque SHOULD be built…
He’s saving the “I’m a Muslim” revelation for his post-presidency book, you just know it.
Joe commented:
The Main Stream Media can pat themselves on the back. Not only did they promote an inexperienced incompetent for president and help get him elected, but they also delivered to us our first Muslim president. This man is hurting our country and the Media is complicit. I sincerely hope they all go broke. Americans can’t trust them anymore, there is no more free press.
jainphx commented:
The press for over 60 years has been our enemy, but it is only now that the majority is waking up to that fact.
The Viet Nam war, a war that was won on the battle field, but lost in the MSM that brought riots in the streets. Yes the MSM is a detriment to the American way of life, better to get your news here, and places like this, where the truth is sought after and discussed.
Blue Collar Todd commented:
Based on how Graham qualified how one becomes a Christian, Obama cannot be one.
http://www.bluecollarphilosophy.com/2010/08/obama-cannot-be-chrsitian-based-on.html
Obama says sin is violating his own values, nothing Christian about that.
MLM411 commented:
And technically, if he was born a Muslim and then renounced Islam, then he’s an apostate. And according to most scholars, the penalty for male apostates is death. It’s hard to believe they call this the religion of peace.
Granny commented:
MLM411 – Moreover, if you look at the rather large number of Muslims who have become Christians over the last couple of decades, in virtually every case they have fatwahs issued against them calling for their murder. Obama would NEVER in a gazillion years have been allowed to give the first speech of his presidency in one of the oldest mosques in the world were he not a muslim.
LL commented:
“One of the prettiest sounds on earth is the Muslim call to prayer at sunset.”
Barack Hussein Obama as quoted by Nicholas D. Kristof in the New York Times – March 6, 2007
just bob commented:
The media is but a symptom of the real problem,academia and the so called intellects have brought more misery on mankind through their witless idealisms and social experiments all in the name of building a better siciety.
wilbur commented:
Is there any record that Obama’s mother converted to the Muslim religion?
After all she was married to two Muslim men.
Auntie Em commented:
No doubt whatsoever that he is a muslim, 99.9% certain he is a jihadist.
His claim to be a Christian is insulting the intelligence of those of us who are.
Opus #6 commented:
It makes no difference in the overall. If Obama were a muslim, how would his behavior change. He stabs America in the back every chance he gets.
Interesting commented:
Muslim name.
Raised in a Muslim nation during childhood.
Attended a Muslim school.
Father is a Muslim.
Slipped up and mentioned his “Muslim faith”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M
The Egyptian foreign minister claiming Obama told him himself he is a Muslim:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/-obama-tells-egyptian-foreign-minister-i-am-a-muslim-stealth-coup-on-the-white-house.html
Why would anyone think it possible, anyway?
Since when have facts deterred the MSM from advocating their news bias?
wilbur commented:
“I am a Muslim,” Obama Tells Egyptian Foreign Minister Gheit
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/-obama-tells-egyptian-foreign-minister-i-am-a-muslim-stealth-coup-on-the-white-house.html
Granny commented:
Auntie Em, the Good Book tells us that “by their fruits you shall know them.” I’m not seeing any good fruit from this particular tree. Not by any standard of Christianity that I have ever seen, heard or read is TheWon a Christian. If he does indeed worship “Jesus” it is the wrong Jesus. Nothing good can possibly come from any “conversion” at the hands of that perverted creature who mimed the sex act in front of hundreds, many children, while cursing America and taking God’s name in vain to do so.
bg commented:
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listen closely @ the 4:07 mark..
i’m still waiting for someone to please inform me as to whether
or not Muslims fulfill Zakat is any business of a US President??
how about Constitutional?? /sarc/
Christians to Pray as White House Observes Ramadan
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Andreas K. commented:
Why is everyone saying “muslim”?
“Muslim” implies a “true believer”. So by calling them “muslims” you acknowledge that their ridiculous claim of having the one true religion with the one true god.
Rock commented:
We have been invaded, and no one with the authority, responsibility, or the means has stepped up and said enough is enough. Islamic radicals have bought our elected officials, who now lay the ground work for our demise as a Republic. Our Borders mean nothing, and the Socialist trash has circumvented or used our laws and Constitution to destroy us. All aided by political correctness, race baiting, and social justice. The economy in ruins and million of workers out of work as their jobs go overseas. Homes lost, families disrupted, and futures destroyed. Well thanks to all of the useful idiots who failed their Country.
bg commented:
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I never was a Muslim
just a sample:
[Barry Soetoro studied the Koran as a child in Indonesia,
where he was registered as a citizen, religion Islam..
"mengaji"
[“The actual usage of the word ‘mengaji’ in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. “Mengagi” is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, ‘mengaji classes’ are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes.”
“The fact that Obama had attended mengaji classes is well known
in Indonesia and has left many there wondering just when Obama
is going to come out of the closet.”]
Indonesians see Obama, they don’t see him as an apostate
at all, they see him as a crusader for the cause of Islam ….
“one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
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bg commented:
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re: bg #18
["He's stated before the entire world that we're not a Christian nation," added the founder of L.E.A.R.N. Inc. "By him turning his back on Christians on a day when we're to pray to God, then turn around and make such a flamboyant move toward Islam, it tells me that it's not America that's not Christian, it's the president that's not Christian."]
Christians banned from National Day of Prayer
[Excerpt
Council on American-Islamic Relations, a group widely accused of having ties to terrorists, urged congressional sponsors of the National Day of Prayer event on Capitol Hill to rescind their invitation to Graham as a featured speaker at the May 6 gathering. CAIR denounced Graham as an “anti-Islam preacher” who sends a message of “religious intolerance.”
“Franklin Graham has the right to be an Islamophobe, but he does not have the right to a taxpayer-funded public platform,” said Corey Saylor, CAIR national legislative director, in a statement.
Graham stated in the CNN interview he does not oppose Muslim prayer meetings at the Capitol or at the Pentagon, noting the double standard employed by the Administration.]
does anyone wonder where Obama
gets his audacious nerve from??
to be continued..
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bg commented:
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bg #22 continued..
re: CAIR / Islamophobe
[Jasser: Not only does CAIR not speak for me, their Islamist approach to American politics and discourse is one of the greatest liabilities to the American Muslim community and a liability to America in the war against militant Islamists. Not only does CAIR not speak for me but the panel of Islamist organizations — CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations), MPAC (Muslim Public Affairs Council), ISNA (Islamic Society of North America), ICNA (Islamic Circle of North America), MAS (Muslim American Society), and CSID (Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy) to name a few, supposedly representing Muslims in Washington, do not represent me. They only represent their members and their donors. They are the ‘lowest hanging fruit’ in the American Muslim community in Washington, so the media and government use them despite their core Islamist ideologies. It seems that the only filter used is that they condemn terrorism. It is important that they not only condemn the tactic but the whole ideology of Islamists. As groups they are either openly Islamist working in defense of political Islam or they are silently Islamist, and equally dangerous by virtue of their refusal to genuinely take on political Islam and the establishment of Islamic states.
The reasons why these groups do not speak for me, and like-minded Muslims, are too numerous to list here. But at its core is an ideological division. To understand the ideological premise of AIFD is to understand what it is about CAIR and other Islamist organizations which repulses the anti-Islamist Muslim.
We acknowledge our responsibility to defeat political Islam, they empower political Islam. We will name terror groups and terrorists by name as our enemy, they will not. We refuse to accept victimology and apologia. They will not. We speak out openly against oppression and dictatorship committed by so-called ‘Muslim’ leaders in the Middle East, from the Wahhabis and monarchies, to the secular dictators of Egypt and Syria, to the theocracy of Iran. They will not. Some will actually solicit support from some of these governments like Saudi Arabia or Dubai. We will not collectivize Muslims to any national political agenda Left or Right. They do. They claim a civil rights focus when it suits them and use their Muslim membership for their own domestic and foreign policy agenda when it suits them. We will not. The only collectivization we will employ is an anti-Islamist movement.
Ultimately, these organizations operate under a grand hypocrisy — which is that they come to prominence by virtue of America’s fear of terrorism and the American hope that they will help in the frontlines — and yet they spend most of their public bandwidth and finances on promoting Islamism. Counterterrorism is only done as an afterthought for window dressing and is combined with a self-righteous indignation about them having any role in fighting militancy and Islamism.
Today’s American Muslim organizations need to reflect where the majority of the American mindset is — concerned about Islamist terror, its ideology, and how to defeat it.
[..]
Jasser: I’ll first tell you what it is not- it’s not Islamophobia. If anyone is to blame for the existence of the concept of Islamophobia, if it even exists, it is Muslims who have been unable to articulate a manifestation of Islam which is free of a political state which threatens the sovereignty of the states in which Muslims reside. I don’t subscribe to the existence of the notion of Islamophobia because I believe that we are in just the beginning of a global conflict of political ideologies (Islamism vs. Americanism), and the conflation of “Islamophobia” is intentional by Islamists to deflect Americans and the free world from the necessary debate of political ideologies.]
to be continued..
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Africa commented:
According to apostate law of Islam, if Hussein’s father rejected Islam, then his father must die — according to the surahs that are Islamic Law, set down right after Mohammad.
So Obama is an illegal Muslim. We should send him to the Taliban to be judged, according to their laws.
bg commented:
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bg #22/23 continued..
again, just a sample:
Failing at force protection: The misguided
Pentagon report on the Ft. Hood massacre
Terror czar deserves honorary membership in the Muslim Brotherhood
A Muslim Soldier
[If Muslims apply the true meaning of jihad today that I know and learned from my family, they would start a ‘jihad against jihad’ and work to end the concept with regards to armed conflict, nation states, and the ummah. The real jihad in 2010 is within the House of Islam against the Islamists and those advocates of political Islam and its radical manifestations that have hijacked the spiritual path of Islam.]
much more here..
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bg commented:
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aah, yet another chance to post my
favorite fact based Obama article..
Warlord Obama Walking the Plank to a Dhimmi Nation
[Regardless of what Obama thinks or says, Muslims consider him a Muslim. In the Muslim world, one is automatically a Muslim if the father is a Muslim, and Obama's birth father was descended from people who adopted Islam from Arab invaders in Africa. No matter what religion Obama claims publicly, he is still considered a Muslim in the Muslim world. Even if his father was not an active practitioner, Obama's Islamic inheritance and his public endorsement of Islam make him a useful Muslim. He can proclaim to be a Christian, and even attend a church, and still be considered a good Muslim if it enables and advances Islam.
President Obama's insistence that America is not in a war with Islam puts us in enormous peril because Islam has declared war on the West. Knowingly or unknowingly; willingly, or not willingly, Obama's position and policies are helpful to the Islamic totalitarian agenda to conquer the West, and render him useful for its advancement to the extent that his naïveté, ignorance, admission, or arrogance will allow.
[..]
Obama has nationalized entire industries with taxpayer bailouts, passed the Economic Stimulus Bill, pushed the Health Care Bill, and the Cap and Trade Bill, converting a once free-market into a government-run socialist state. All of these actions rely on heavily increased taxes from the American taxpayer with more control over their lives for generations to come.
Obama’s leniency toward Islam provokes the question of whose and what interests he is really standing for. The man with the name Barack Hussein Obama apologizes for America to Muslim nations while he endorses Islam in America. However shocking it may seem, and whatever the intentions, with Islam’s nose in American government, the socialist plans are paving the way to generations of dhimmitude. The inflicting control over American lives the plans will cause and the taxes Americans will have to pay to put them into action is analogous to a jizya tax in accordance to Islamic doctrine–taxes imposed on non-Muslims to control them until they embrace Islam completely.]
RTWT!!
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bg commented:
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Africa @ 2:32 pm #24
“We are Taliban”
more here..
re: bg #26
Obama’s birth father was descended from people
who adopted Islam from Arab invaders in Africa
the truth shall set US ALL free..
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regularguy commented:
I think the only relevant question is what mohammedans think Obama is, and it’s clear the mohammedan world has not issued a fatwa on him for becoming an “apostate.”
IMO, he only began sitting in Reverend Wright’s Black Theology “church” when he began to desire a political career, solely to gain street credentials, and Wright’s “church” happened to best fit what he believed or could stomach regarding Christianity. Ten bucks says he never has had a single religious thought go through his leftist-bred skull, given his close relationship with the likes of Frank Marshall Davis and other leftists I’m sure he hung out with (by his own words) when he got to college. His whole “getting religion” was to lay the tracks toward his political career otherwise, and was fabricated by Ayers when he wrote Obama’s (auto)biography.
Lightwave commented:
Best part of that moron at Crooks & Liars:
“Stop talking about Obama being a Muslim and talk about the economy instead!
LOL!
bg commented:
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i’ve averred the dozens of times, but
it has been awhile, ergo, here goes:
whether Obama is a Muslim or not matters not to me.. however, the fact that
Obama is aiding and abetting the Islamists in our midst, whether intentional
or not, is undeniable..
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jainphx commented:
Once again bg has brought evidence from his own mouth, but that doesn’t seem to be good enough for the squishes. Squishes like Hugh Hewitt who claimed on his own show, that those that think Obama is a Muslim are “nutters” The squishy center right are just petrified that someone in the MSM or Washington will call them “racist” Grow a pair and stand for freedom.
Militant Conservative commented:
hey BG, did you call the dime on the escaped prisoners???? LOL
Barry is a poison to America and deserves no respect nor adulation. He is to receive our rebuke and our scorn for he is not a lover of liberty nor freedom, these are alien to the musterds. The NOTUS will fail but only by the hand of the one true GOD. I know him by his fruits and all he has sewn is death and distruction. Prove me wrong you liberal POS.
powder is dry and America will stay free because of bubbas.
Nhale commented:
Excuse me, but are you idiots suggesting that religion is an inherited genetic trait?
Stanley commented:
NhaleNo Gravatar
August 20th, 2010 | 8:40 pm | #33
Excuse me, but are you idiots suggesting that religion is an inherited genetic trait?
Is anything left to chance?
Another vantage point, no miracles and no accidents.
bg commented:
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Nhale @ 8:40 pm #33
no, we aren’t, but evidently Islam does, so go figure..
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Stanley commented:
Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
omans 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
God said, you shall have no other gods before me and although we know that Western man worships the rational temple and and it’s sense data and it’s by products.
Another vantage point.
Elektra commented:
NHale, You are ignorant to the Koran. We do not think that religion is inherited, Muslims do! In fact, I am sure without the poltas, there would be fatwas on Barky’s head because he would be considered an apostate, punishable by death. Learn more about Islam and watch a video of Rifqa Bary, the first born again Christian in 100 generations of her family. Her father told her that ‘if you have that Jesus in your heart, you are dead…’ She added, “Imagine the honor in killing me.” It is called Shari’a. Know your enemy, dude!
Stanley commented:
“We do not think that religion is inherited”
Is your presupposition based on the Power of your own independent decision making when it came to your Birth? Did you choose whether you would be male or female? Have you been taught that you chose even the culture you would live in and the time of your birth? Or, personality and parents? What do you possess that was not given to you?
Stanley commented:
You can not eliminate the Words like Elect and Predestination from the bible.