Vladimir Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State."

“Would socialized medicine lead to socialization of other phases of life? Lenin thought so. He declared socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state.”

1945 AMA Pamphlet Warning

The Communist Workers Party published an article recently in defense of state-run medicine like the proposal that democrats are wanting to ram through in the next 10 days.

From the Socialists Workers Party

When the administration of John F. Kennedy discussed a plan for government health care that would cover people of Social Security age, the American Medical Association (AMA) fought back, along with the insurance and pharmaceutical industries, with a well-funded campaign–complete with a commercial featuring actor Ronald Reagan, who was determined to talk to America about an “imminent threat”:

Now, back in 1927, an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for president on the Socialist Party ticket, said the American people would never vote for socialism. But he said under the name of liberalism, the American people would adopt every fragment of the socialist program…

One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project…Now, the American people, if you put it to them about socialized medicine and gave them a chance to choose, would unhesitatingly vote against it.

…Of course, the danger of creeping socialism is a much less compelling argument today among ordinary people than it was during the Cold War. If anything, socialism is becoming a preferred alternative to the mess that capitalism has made of working-class living standards…

…According to the Physicians for a National Health Program’s (PNHP) Karen Palmer, the AMA assessed its members an extra $25 each to resist national health insurance, and in 1945, it spent $1.5 million on lobbying efforts, which at the time was the most expensive lobbying effort in American history. An AMA pamphlet warned, “Would socialized medicine lead to socialization of other phases of life? Lenin thought so. He declared socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state.”

We are only 10 days away (or less!) from the final vote on ObamaCare. If the House votes yes on the Senate bill that is now before it, THE GAME IS OVER. Since the Senate already passed it, once the House passes it on March 18, Obama’s signature on it (which will be immediate) MAKES IT LAW.

We are about to become a Socialist country. For if this passes, it will be virtually unrepealable. Health entitlement programs, once enacted, have proven to be permanent.

Think about it. Ten days from now: Permanent taxpayer funding of abortion. Permanent death panels (yes, those are in the bill), with no appeal of their decisions. Permanent forcing of pro-life doctors to refer for abortions, under penalty of loss of their license to practice. Within five years, no more freedom to buy private policies of your choice (only policies approved by the federal government). Small insurance companies, such as the one that took such incredibly good care of my husband during his illness, will very quickly be permanently out of business.

The Democrats KNOW that nationalizing health care is the single most effective step in making the USA a socialist country. Lenin said it first:

Now is the time to act.
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  • CattusMagnus

    Sick. Sick. Sick.

  • Son of Liberty

    Speaking about socialized medicine… Death panels? We don’t need no stinky death panels.

    Amends the Illinois Anatomical Gift Act. Provides that, on and after July 1, 2012, each resident of Illinois who is of sound mind and who has attained the age of 18 years is presumed, by operation of law, to have given all of his or her body for any organ donation purposes. Allows an individual to opt out of the presumed donation by executing an anatomical gift as otherwise provided in the Act or by filing with the Secretary of State an organ donor opt out document….the Secretary of State and his or her employees are immune from any civil or criminal liability in connection with the Organ Donor Opt Out Registry.

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  • a-disgusted-former-democrat

    Please call Massa’s office to tell him not to resign. He is a NO vote and now is going after the WH and dems in Congress.

    Phone: (585) 218-0040

    He needs to stay and keep exposing this crap to the public, and he has a huge spotlight on what he says. He needs to stay so that people see the thugs in the WH and Congress.

  • Major Kong

    Yep. Once the government gets to make decisions regarding your health, you are no longer an autonomous individual.

    Joseph Stalin: “One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.”

  • Militant Conservative

    same old crap. Socialism NEVER has worked never will.

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  • video with contact info for Dem Critters we need to call in the House, pls call:

  • Atlanta Media Guy

    Kill the Bill! Keep calling your Representative. If your Rep is a NO vote, call Reps from adjoining districts. Jam the phone lines! We must not relent until this bill is killed!

    Best way not to have to repeal anything? Kill this Bill, make then start over! Folks this is the time to be heard. Do not get caught up in March Madness until we kill this bill!

    Did I say it before? Kill the Bill!

  • bg
  • avery

    It in the bill also when you get 65 they be paying vist to your home “purple shirts”.The old folk has been sold down the river for a new voteing block “illegal”.

  • bg


    part 1


  • Peggy

    Re: IL–>if any folks are in Jerry Costello’s district, he appears to be hedging on his position. I have called as has a caller to Dana L’s show. Further, there are robo-calls going out in his district to get him to vote for the bill. Please call him and urge him to oppose this bill.

    Secondly, Capitol Fax Blog from SPFLD, IL, reports on IL State politics. Miler’s reporting that Axelrod is going to leave the WH to work on Quinn’s campaign for Gov.

    Also for Illinoisans, support Bill Brady, pro-life socially conservative Roman Catholic GOP Gov nominee–not from Chicago! His big issues will be budget and corruption issues.

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  • Westin

    We are about to become a Socialist country. For if this passes, it will be virtually unrepealable. Health entitlement programs, once enacted, have proven to be permanent.

    By telling everyone that we’re doomed if this passes, what you’re doing is setting everyone up to be apathetic in the next election. If you convince people that once this bill passes there will be no recourse, then why will our side bother voting ever again?

    All we can do is tell Congress of our opposition. If Congress chooses to go ahead with this, there is nothing we can do to stop it. This will probably pass. This insistence that we stop it is pointless, since we have no way of stopping it.

    The insistence that it can’t be repealed is a massively self-destructive approach. All it will do will be to suppress conservative turnout in the next election.

    Seriously, explain to everyone: If the health-care reform can’t be repealed and we become a socialist state, why should conservatives bother voting ever again? There would be no point, since the war would be permanently lost, right?

  • Wacokid

    You fail to realize there is always a way to repeal a law. You just do not want to think in those terms. Use their terminology against them. What is it they like to say about Mao and power coming from what? How ’bout we show ’em? Discourse with these people is dead. They want to Rahm it down our throat? OK. Watch what we do to their throats.

  • newton

    Attorneys General from many states are lining up to be the first to sue the Federal government on Tenth Amendment grounds, because of this abomination of a bill.

    I hope there are individuals out there willing to sue as well. It might be that our only hope is in the courts.

  • [email protected]:09 pm

    Absolutely right on. We are now at the juncture where the opportunity has arisen to defeat the insanity of Leftism once and for all. For over two centuries those who have the most investment in the survival of the culture have been playing defense against these monsters and allowing them to set the terms of the discussion.

    Politics and culture are not an event; they are a process. Not only can the corruption of this administration be undone and ultimately defeated, our only hope is to continue the battle until every Socialist/Progressive/”Liberal” of every stripe is ridiculed and reviled in the public square every time he leaves the house.

    The greatest enemy is the apathy of the electorate. Believing that electing a Republican for whatever office instead of recognizing the true enemy is nothing but cultural suicide, and is ultimately the act of a coward.

    Wake up, America!

  • Great post! Tell all your friends, we MUST STOP this BS HC Bill.

    If people want the whole country to look like Detroit someday, they should just keep voting for Democrats.

  • john

    Have they actually scheduled a vote for the 18th or is that just the day that Gibbs threw out there?

    If it’s the former then they think they have the votes. If it’s the latter then they are just doing the same thing they’ve done since july (it was supposed to be done before August recess, the end of september, the elections, and the SOTU).

  • bg


    yep, repeal..

    sorry, but that’s more doomy & gloomy than stopping the liberty killer
    bill in the first place, never mind daring to express the truth about it’s passage:

    [We are about to become a Socialist country. For if this passes, it will be virtually unrepealable. Health entitlement programs, once enacted, have proven to be permanent.]

    is that not true??

    i mean, all the damaging to our liberty entitlement
    FDR enacted have been reversed, right??

    or should we ignore the reality in much the same manner Obama ignores the GWOT, and either suck it up, or iie.. hmmm, what to do; what to do..

    oh yes, yes, yes, if the bill passes, it’ll be “sunshine, lollipops, rainbows
    & everything”
    thanks to repeal (which will only take *fitb* decades to possibly rectify, and even then there are no gurantees), yaye!!


  • bg


    Westin @ 3:09 pm #15

    well Bush just went “whew”..

    apparently everything has & will
    be the CONSERVATIVES fault!!


  • Jo

    Vladimir Lenin: “Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.”

    Bozo: ” Lenin my Hero.”

  • Solaratov

    March 8th, 2010 | 3:09 pm | #15
    Absolutely correct. There is *no* bill, law, program, etc., that cannot be repealed.

    And, a Republican president can always just refuse funding of the program and/or the startup of the planned agencies, bureaus, etc. (118 at last count), that are to be set up to “administer this garbage.

    {how ya been, dude?}

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  • Mo

    I agree with the folks that say don’t give up, even if they pass this immoral, illicit and insane bill. We can’t give up the country to these bastards. We just can’t. The vote hasn’t happened, we need to pressure them. If it doesn’t work, then we work hard to throw every single one of them and every single squishy RINO out of office, at EVERY level of government, from the most local to the very top.

    Start with that in mind, not the defeatist attitude, though I know Jim is anything BUT a defeatist or give-upper. If anything, Jim has given many of us hope and strength.

  • bg



    who said they were “giving up”??

    that was just someones opinion,
    certainly doesn’t make it a fact..


  • dallasdan

    Maybe someone will step up and do what has to be done.

  • ogee

    Ronald Reagan in 1961 gave a speech about socialized medicine and how to defeat it. I think it is as relevant today as ever. Ronald Reagan is 50 years later spot on.
    As if we’re not already overextended enough financially, the issue of National Health Care is now on the table once more vote. Here’s some perspective you might find interesting.
    Now back in 1927 an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for president on the Socialist Party ticket, said the American people would never vote for socialism. But he said under the name of liberalism the American people will adopt every fragment of the socialist program.
    One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project. Most people are a little reluctant to oppose anything that suggests medical care for people who possibly can’t afford it.
    Now, the American people, if you put it to them about socialized medicine and gave them a chance to choose, would unhesitatingly vote against it. We had an example of this. Under the Truman administration it was proposed that we have a compulsory health insurance program for all people in the United States, and, of course, the American people unhesitatingly rejected this.
    Let’s take a look at social security itself. Again, very few of us disagree with the original premise that there should be some form of savings that would keep destitution from following unemployment by reason of death, disability or old age. And to this end, social security was adopted, but it was never intended to supplant private savings, private insurance, pension programs of unions and industries.
    Now in our country under our free enterprise system we have seen medicine reach the greatest heights that it has in any country in the world. Today, the relationship between patient and doctor in this country is something to be envied any place. The privacy, the care that is given to a person, the right to chose a doctor, the right to go from one doctor to the other.
    But let’s also look from the other side, at the freedom the doctor loses. A doctor would be reluctant to say this. Well, like you, I am only a patient, so I can say it in his behalf. The doctor begins to lose freedoms; it’s like telling a lie, and one leads to another. First you decide that the doctor can have so many patients. They are equally divided among the various doctors by the government. But then the doctors aren’t equally divided geographically, so a doctor decides he wants to practice in one town and the government has to say to him you can’t live in that town, they already have enough doctors. You have to go someplace else. And from here it is only a short step to dictating where he will go.
    This is a freedom that I wonder whether any of us have the right to take from any human being. All of us can see what happens once you establish the precedent that the government can determine a man’s working place and his working methods, determine his employment. From here it is a short step to all the rest of socialism, to determining his pay and pretty soon your children won’t decide when they’re in school where they will go or what they will do for a living. They will wait for the government to tell them where they will go to work and what they will do
    What can we do about this? Well, you and I can do a great deal. We can write to our congressmen and our senators. We can say right now that we want no further encroachment on these individual liberties and freedoms. And at the moment, the key issue is, we do not want socialized medicine.
    Former Representative Halleck of Indiana has said, “When the American people want something from Congress, regardless of its political complexion, if they make their wants known, Congress does what the people want.”
    So write, and if your representative writes back to you and tells you that he or she too is for free enterprise, that we have these great services and so forth, that must be performed by government, don’t let them get away with it. Show that you have not been convinced. Write a letter right back and tell them that you believe in government economy and fiscal responsibility; that you know governments don’t tax to get the money the need; governments will always find a need for the money they get and that you demand the continuation of our free enterprise system. You and I can do this. The only way we can do it is by writing to our congressmen even we believe that he is on our side to begin with. Write to strengthen his hand. Give him the ability to stand before his colleagues in Congress and say “I have heard from my constituents and this is what they want.”
    Write those letters now; call your friends and them to write them. If you don’t, this program I promise you will pass just as surely as the sun will come up tomorrow and behind it will come other federal programs that will invade every area of freedom as we have known it in this country. Until, one day, as Normal Thomas said we will awake to find that we have socialism. And if you don’t do this and if I don’t do it, one of these days we are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children, what it once was like in America when men were free.
    Ronald Reagan was a truly great American. America misses this great man. I hope another Reagan comes along and soon. America needs a hero in this darkest hour. I don’t think Obama is the man.

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  • Thanks for the link. Nothing like keeping history and its parallels and overt similarities front and center.

    Keep up the great work!

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  • StephenWV

    Not enough people listened to this warning in 2010. Now we are at the tipping point. The last ditch effort to prevent America from becoming the worlds “shinning example” of a socialist state. Lenin would be ecstatic.

  • charlie tango

    Vladimir Lenin: “Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.”

  • Dr. Ben Carson….a CONSERVATIVE (black MAN)….

    Please NOTE, key word….Conservative…
    secondary word….MAN…

    irrelevant word…..black….you got it…now repeat after ME….


  • Tonie

    Just like we fought Nazism/Socialism/Communism in Europe & USSR…..it took two WW wars to do it. In order to fight for Life, Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness…..a BLOODY CIVIL WAR in the USA!

  • Tonie

    It took TWO WW wars to defeat Nazism/Socialism/Communism in Europe & USSR……..only way to save the Soul of America: Life, Liberty & Pursuit of Happiness is a BLOODY CIVIL WAR.

  • R.wallace

    Obama is a communist–no doubt!

  • Nic_Jay

    Socialism SUCKS and maybe so does ObamaCare, I love that moniker, but can we please stop being slave to the moment and remember why we needed a overhaul of the healthcare system in the first place? Who cares about Obamacare, the rhetoric has to be about how to improve the system not just demonize the law.

  • Leninneversaidthat

    You are all insane

  • Leninneversaidthat

    That is just sick…Shame on you

  • Leninneversaidthat

    Cite source? Other than Fox News

  • Leninneversaidthat

    Actually, he is part of the Democrat Party

  • Leninneversaidthat

    I’ve got nothing bad to say about this. This is actually quite rational.

  • DesertSun59

    The over-the-top claims in this article are, of course, just claims and assertions, none of which have come true or were ever in the bill. I find it infinitely amusing how much Teatards hate this nation. You are all totally treasonous people.

  • Sick of it

    We didn’t fight Communism in Europe, we allowed them to take over.

  • charlie tango

    quotes of Vladimir Ilyich Lennin. for one.

    Look at the communist manifesto article 7.
    Medicine, and since he was socialist, you add socialized.
    common sense.
    Why do you people hate fox, it certainly doesn’t lie any more than the others. I, a conservative do not look to Fox for anything, but would prefer them to a progressive attempting to lie to my face on a news program. It makes me entertain the position that socialist progressives simply cannot tolerate other thought.

  • Groucho_Engels

    nic, i am encouraged by your comment here. i echo your sentiment. unfortunately, the don’t think the author of the article—nor his commentariat followers—are as interested in improving the system as they are in demonizing Obama and whoever they perceive to be the political left.

    it’s a testament to the truth of your statement however that none of them took a swing at you here. my guess is, to do so would require them to admit their true motivation. beware of anyone who appears afraid to do this!

  • BeenThere_ReadThat

    the Communist Manifesto was published in 1847 by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Vladimir Lenin was born 22 years later in 1870.

    the Manifesto isn’t organized into ‘articles’, just parts. and there are only four of them.

    also, the document contains no references whatsoever to medicine, doctors, or anything related to healthcare.

    the full text of the Communist Manifesto can be downloaded for free from countless websites in any format you wish. i highly recommend doing so and at least skimming it over once. this way you will be speaking from a position of relative authority when it comes up in conversation.

  • Look_It_Up

    thanks for the belly laugh, man! “took two WW to defeat Nazism and Communism”…there’s so much ignorance of history wrapped up in that tight little nugget i can’t even stand it.

    first of all, Nazism: rose in the 1920s, defeated in 1945. since WWI ended in 1919, there’s really no way in the space-time continuum that WWI could be seen as having ended Nazism. to compound your mistake, the rise of fascism in Germany is typically seen to have been a direct CONSEQUENCE of WWI. the Treaty of Versailles, imposed by the victorious allies after WWI, crushed Germany’s economy and the resulting poverty and indignity created conditions that allowed a “madman with a plan” like Hitler to seize power over an otherwise rational population.

    Communism/USSR: another double-loss for you here, i’m afraid. WWI ended before the rise of communism in eastern europe, and WWII ended 44 years before the breakup of the USSR in 1989.

    final thoughts: it’s a fair statement to say that WWII defeated Nazism. however, we very well might have failed to defeat Hitler if not for Communist Russia’s help on the Eastern front of the war. as for Communism, it failed under its own weight four decades later, not from anything we did in the WW’s. as a matter of fact, there’s good reason to believe that the deprivations that the russian people suffered after both of the WW’s probably HELPED an extreme political ideology like communism to survive as long as it did.

  • Sandman619

    First, that quote attributed to Lenin was created by the American Medical Association’s PR firm for that ’50’s AMA pamphlet. There is record of that quote until it was published by the AMA & there is no source which can be attributed to Lenin at all. The belief that socialized medicine is the keystone or foundation leading to a socialized nation is similarly made up. So great sourcing of unreliable information. Yet another credible source of news to the low-information voter

    The ACA did not implement socialized medicine. It helps all working Americans to purchase private health insurance at an affordable price. Socialized medicine requires that he federal government seize ownership of hospitals & force the doctors into becoming employees of the government. This is, in fact, modeled after John McCain’s health care reform from his presidential campaign. The difference is that where people can qualify for subsidies of up to $5,000 depending on their income, the McCain model would pay everyone a flat $5,000 to everyone whether they use is for health insurance or use it to go on a cruise. Giving up to $5,000 to 15 million uninsured working Americans costs much less than giving a flat $5,000 to some 300 million people (for families both plans offer $12,000 in the same context). The only alternative to the working poor is to go to the hospital emergency room, which is also the highest cost healthcare provider, ultimately leaving the unpaid bills to Americans who have health insurance. But by making health insurance affordable, then everyone can see a doctor, which is also the lowest cost healthcare provider.

    As for what is happening now, it is the health insurers that are canceling their health plans, not the legislation, which specifically excludes all health plans offered prior to MAR 2010 from certain ACA standards, such as, offering preventive care for free, protect your choice of doctors & access to emergency care & preventing unreasonable premium rate increases. Statistically, a majority of individual health insurance plans have a turnover rate of less than 12 months, meaning that most of the plans offered for the last 3 years were meant to be cancelled prior to JAN 2014. So anyone offering those plans should have warned their policy holders that they would be cancelled when the healthcare reform goes into full effect in JAN 2014. Additionally, state legislation from a handful of states REQUIRES cancellation of all individual plans before JAN 2014, which is not related to the ACA legislation which states that all plans offered before MAR 2010 are grandfathered. The only way that an insurance plan loses its grandfathered status is by increasing the premium more than 15% + the medical inflation rate, which is 9% for 2013 permitting a premium increase up to 24% & still allowing it to remain grandfathered or substantially reducing coverage from its original coverage prior to MAR 2010, like removing dental or vision plans. But, there is substantial mis-information out there specifically to disenfranchise the working poor from accessing affordable health insurance.

    Cheers !

  • Sandman619

    This is a quote by the American Medical Association. Lenin never said anything like this.

  • kilee

    So, if I say i’m a democrat that makes it true? hmmmm, your logic is baffling.

  • JT

    I did

  • JT

    So with 85% of Americans with healthcare coverage in 2009 and 87% of those happy with their coverage… Exactly why did we need a drastic reform?

  • blue

    Have you ever read Das Kapital, it’s a bit on the long side, to long and difficult to understand for me, but since you know a communist when you see one, what is a communist?

  • WhoBeen

    Ref: “If anything, socialism is becoming a preferred alternative to the mess that capitalism has made of working-class living standards…” I take umbridge with that statement. Capitalism NEVER made a mess of working-class living standards…if anything , Capitalism has raised the standards. The so-called mess was made by the opposition to Capitalism which can be summed up by the destructive forces of those on the left… I would challenge you to come up with a definitive example of how Capitalism made a mess of the working -class living standards…just ‘one’ example!

  • Yes I wish these wingers would quit with these spurious quotes. It’s just noise now.

  • But otherwise he proved his case. Ta-dah!

  • Michael Cotter

    According to the book “They Never Said It”, Lenin never said the quote and that it was a fraud invented in the late 1940s.

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