Violence Escalates! France in Retreat!

Is Gen. Marcel Bigeard still alive? I seem to recall that he has a reputation for knowing how to deal with this kind of thing. Of course the problem with that is after one of his victories, all the French will have to leave the country… but do you want to win or not? I hate to feel this way, but I think there are only two courses in the fight against Islamofascism. Ensure that loyal Muslims are on your side early in the fight by empowering them, making them the voice of the Muslim community in your country, and ruthlessly pursuing the bad elements within their community. Don’t attack the religion, attack the people who would attack you, and your potential allies within the religion. This helps the former outsiders become enfranchised in your society, and helps a non-violent, non-extremist element triumph over the violent extremists, who of course always have a leg up in this struggle – they can simply kill or intimidate peaceful Muslims. This theoretically prevents metastasization of the radical elements. The U.S. appears to be following this course of action, with pretty good success since 2001.

The other possibility is benign neglect, which is followed ineluctibly by a fight against the mestatsized radicalism. Instead of cutting the cancer out and identifying organic elements to fight a recurrence, it allows the cancer to grow unimpeded, in the hope that it will go into remission on its own, that perhaps the doctor’s diagnosis was mistaken, or maybe it’s just all a dream. This is the route France chose. Now its options include a sort of radical surgery – attempting to rein in large groups of extremists metastisized all over the country; or the equivalent of chemotherapy, a kulturkampf of sorts on Islam. Trying to cut out the extremists when you have the equivalent of the intifada could be fatal to France; they risk an armed revolution, or long term insurgency if they now attempt to isolate what has turned into a majority or large minority of the Muslim community and de-naturalize it, put it under surveillance, etc. The alternative is to simply have super-duper racial profiling, put all Muslims in france under intense scrutiny, and hope that you catch the ones most dangerous. The problem with this of course is that it is not a nice thing to do and could in fact encourage more radicalization. Such are the bad choices available when you choose to ignore the problem and hope it will go away.

I beg to differ with Anonymous – France is no longer a ‘top industrial state’. They have ceded their leadership position in just about every category except for snobbery and delusion

So far I still haven’t figured out how the two boys got electricuted. The whole context of this story is hidden from the public. Did they break into a sub-station? Climb over the fence? How does this tie into the cops? Why is it the fault of the police that two boys got electricuted while running? If this story were reported “in context” then there should be no reason to riot. If, however, the police threw the kids into a transformer station and caused their deaths, then there’s a reason to riot. I guess people just don’t think these days, either that, or the people rioting were just looking for an excuse.

They are Muslims. They don’t need an excuse to riot.

The kids were running from police, as they were wanted for questioning in a robbery that had occured in the area. They climbed the fence and fell against a transformer and were electrocuted. A third teenager is in the hospital.

It amazes me that Paris cannot get a hold on the violence. Let it burn I say. They are only destroying their own neighborhoods.

Anon: “Ya know, when they did this in Detroit in the late 60’s, the cops, firemen, and national guard just backed off (the rioters were shooting at firemen), cordoned, and let the fires burn through the surrounding neighborhoods.” — yep, until they ran in the Michigan National Guard. I have a friend who manned a .50 on an APC. When MNG was ordered in they were told to “fire when fired upon”, which my friend translated into “hose the rooftops”.

He says he still can see the bulletholes when he goes home.

Nothing wrong with Paris and Denmark that a bit of 7.62 Nato can’t cure. Lock and load…

La Shawn nails it. And perhaps what’s happening in France can serve as a wakeup call to America — runaway immigration policy doesn’t work.

It’s not a “melting pot,” but rather a balkanization of society and culture that’s ready to explode.

The laissez faire attitude has consequences — and France will change its policies.

High voltage electricity is plainly a western crusader tactic to destroy Islam. Rioting is the only possible response to this colonial tyranny. Riot, brothers! Fight the power! This is not France, this is Eurabia!

How soon ’til France surrenders?
Sarkozy fired in. . . four, three, two. .

And waiting far off in the background, for just the right moment. . . Le Pen!

Europe just goes round and round in circles. Same ‘ol thing. How tiresome. May the entire continent: from the Islamofascists on the one end to the old school fascists on the other, all seal their fate together.

anonymous said the Foreign Legion is banned from operating in metroplitan France. Historically, that was true prior to the fall of Algeria, except in wartime. The “foreign” part of “foreign legion” really refers to the foreigners who make up most of its ranks rather than to “foreign” service. I don’t think there’s any current prohibition on actions in metropolitan France.

Besides, there are two distinct advantages to using the legion:

1. If there is any French unit feared by the Moslems, it is the legion.

2. I’m sure the legion would like another go at the Moslems after the humiliation in Algeria.