Political legend Roger Stone appeared before the House Intelligence Committee today during a closed hearing intended to tackle the allegations of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign, but rather than Roger standing trial, he flipped the script in proper Stonean fashion and put the entire committee itself on trial.
In an exclusive interview, a TGP sat down with Mr. Stone and discussed some of the finer details of the hearing and also touched briefly on the Alabama senate race, the slippery, snakelike DNC operative John Podesta, and the much gossiped about Guccifer 2.0. What follows is a penetrating looks at perhaps the largest political scandal in American history: the Democratic Party’s attempt to displace a sitting President.
When TGP asked Mr. Stone about how the hearing went, he broke down the internal skirmish between Congresspeople Schiff and Speier and Congressman Trey Gowdy, this touch point revolved around whether or not the FBI had seen and analyzed the DNC servers:
“The most interesting about the hearing was that, in my statement, I strongly asserted my suspicion that the Russians never hacked the DNC and, of course, one of the central arguments, to that effect, is that the DNC refused to turn over their computer servers to the FBI, instead having it inspected by CloudStrike, a forensic IT firm controlled directly and paid by the DNC. When I said that, Congresswoman Speier from California corrected me and told me that the DNC servers had been turned over to the FBI, and then Congressman Schiff essentially confirmed that, after which, Trey Gowdy said, ‘wait a minute, James Comey came before this committee, secretary Johnson came before this committee, and testified under oath that the servers were not turned over to the FBI, so what are you talking about?’ Schiff tried to change the subject and said, ‘well, we’ve got a lot of information that we learned during the recess and maybe we should talk about this privately.’ Gowdy seemed furious and stormed out of the hearing, so somebody’s lying.
Who’s lying? We’ve got to get to the bottom of that.
Beyond that, it was pretty – you know, as you might expect. The Republicans gave me the opportunity to correct the statements of Congressman Swalwell, Congresswoman Speier, and Congressman Schiff, specific things they had said about me . . . For example, Schiff had said Stone was in direct contact with Assange, I never was, Speier said Stone has worked for the Russians, I never worked for the Russians, and Swalwell said that I was part of a cabal that had Russian ties, I have no Russian ties.”
— Roger Stone (@RogerJStoneJr) September 26, 2017
Stone went on to comment on the fact that a number of establishment Republicans are working against the Trump administration and “with the Democrats [to uphold] the status quo,” before briefly touching on the topic of the Alabama senate race, noting:
“It’s too early to say, but I think a lot of [the establishment Republicans] are gonna go down. What happens today in Alabama will be very interesting. Steve Bannon and I have both endorsed Roy Moore, many of my friends in the state are working for Roy Moore. Ironically, the candidate who will most closely support the Trump agenda is Roy Moore, not the candidate endorsed by Donald Trump.”
TGP then pressed Stone on whether or not the Republicans present at the hearing were as off-the-rails as the Democrats present were, Stone commented:
“There’s a very definite divide between the Republicans and the Democrats, the Republicans wanted to get basic things on the record, such as, ‘Do you have any evidence, whatsoever, of collusion, coordination, and so on with the Russian state,’ whereas the Democrats are more interested in playing “gotcha”. For example, they asked me, ‘Have you ever written a tweet and then deleted it?’ I said, ‘I don’t recall one, specifically,’ and then they say, ‘a-ha!’ and then they whip out some innocuous and completely stupid tweet, which I had posted and then thought better of and had taken down, as if that matters. It’s all a big game of ‘gotcha!’”
It should come as no surprise that the Democrats are grasping for straws, that phrase could be their 2017 motto, but the level of pernicious arrogance they put on display is frightening and beyond disheartening, especially for those whose lives are in the crosshairs of these people. Stone went on to note that John Podesta, and an unobjectiobale tweet sent by Stone, were a pivotal moment of his trial, he commented:
“The allegation is that I knew in advance about the hacking of Podesta’s email, because I had tweeted around the time of Paul Manafort’s resignation in August, that John Podesta’s time in the barrel will come. I never said anything about his emails. The supposition is, ‘oh, therefore you must’ve meant his emails were about to be hacked and published.’ What I was referring to was my belief that if Paul Manafort’s business activities in Eastern Europe were being scrutinized, then it would be fair for Mr. Podesta’s Eastern European business activities to be scrutinized. There’s the bank deal, the uranium deal, the gas deal; there is a presidential candidate and their aides making millions of dollars from the Russian oligarchs around Putin, unfortunately that candidate is Hillary Clinton. I was fully aware of Podesta’s business activities because the ‘Panama Papers’, published in January of 2016, had most of the material. I had also gotten an extraordinarily good opposition research briefing from Dr. Jerome Corsi, which outlined all of the deals I just ran through. So, it’s supposition. It’s conjecture.”
Trust me, it will soon the Podesta’s time in the barrel. #CrookedHillary
— Roger Stone (@RogerJStoneJr) August 21, 2016
All they have is supposition, this is the nature of the Democratic Party’s angling related to the alleged Russian collusion with the Trump administration: In claris non est locus conjecturis; in circumstances that are obvious, there is no need for and no value in conjecture.
Roger noted how nonsensical the committee is and how aggressive the Democrats present were, but the major takeaway is, as Roger noted, “very simply, this is a scandal without evidence. The Democrats are grasping at anything they can find, big or small, and are trying to make something out of nothing.”
Stone further commented on the level of delusion and the level of desperation that the Democrats are struggling with, stating:
“They’re trying to undermine and destabilize the Trump presidency with a continued narrative that was invented by John Podesta, which is revolving around the Russians colluding with the Trump campaign to affect the 2016 election. The Republicans were very clear that there’s a difference between the question of Russian interference in our election and Trump collusion, of which there is not, to this day, one iota of evidence.”
The narrative is a compelling one and one that has sat well with the mainstream media and their consumers, but startling still is the insistence, by the left, that the now infamous “Guccifer 2.0” is working in tandem with the political right, and that it allegedly shares right-wing and pro-Russian interests.
Guccifer 2.0 may share Russian interests, but the politics of the digital ghost align more with the Democratic Party, rather than Trump’s populist, conservative ideology.
Stone ended our discussion with a chilling comment regarding Guccifer 2.0’s deep connections with the DNC, stating:
“It’s indisputable that Guccifer 2.0 is using a software program that is registered to an employee at the Democratic National Committee. Unfortunately, the House Democrats cannot explain that.”
Just like Russia itself, the Democratic Party has actively attempted to shed their skin like the serpents they are and deflect their own connections to the Russian state away from themselves and instead fantasize about connections to the Trump administration. Be it Podesta’s work with Russian oligarchs, or Guccifer 2.0’s choice of software, the Democratic Party is deeply mired in a political scandal and their time is running out. The most important takeaway from this interview with the venerable Roger Stone is the fact that there seems to be a lot of confusion within the ranks of the Democratic Party’s leadership as to what the facts truly are and a more probing look at the Russia narrative is required for any sort of closure to occur.