NRA President Says Door-to-Door Gun Confiscation is “Legitimate Fear” (Video)

It’s an Obama World…
NRA President David Keene told CBS that door-to-door gun confiscation under this administration is a legitimate fear.

CBS News reported:

The National Rifle Association didn’t disagree with everything in President Obama’s proposal today to cut back on escalating gun violence, the group’s president David Keene told CBS News Senior White House Correspondent Bill Plante today, but with coming talks of reform, he said there are “legitimate” fears on the horizon for law-abiding gun owners.

One of his fears: that a universal background check for anyone purchasing a firearm – the first of Mr. Obama’s suggestions today – would lead to a national tracking registry of gun owners. That, in turn, Keene said, could give way to “forced buybacks,” or, door-to-door confiscation of specific weapons by the government.

“In other words, ‘I have a record that you have a shotgun, and you’re going to sell it to the government, or else,'” Keene said. “That’s the equivalent of confiscation.”

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  • Warthog

    Never give an inch.

    In fact, start taking back that which has already been infringed. Keep hammering away on gun-free zones like Chicago and New York. The best defense is a good offence and it’s time to be offensive.

  • shadow

    Or at least that is what the fearmogers would like you to believe, because to them, it means $$$$.

  • shadow

    Or at least that is what the fearmongers would like you to believe, because to them, it means $$$$.

  • Jim

    Door to door huh, maybe the door to door people could deliver the mail?

  • Highlander

    We already have that don’t we? You can’t buy a gun from a licensed dealer without filling out the federal paperwork …. yes, private sales are still possible, but for the most part, the federal government already knows who most of the gun owners are. It’s all a moot point though. Gun grabbers aren’t going to be happy until they have all the guns, and the citizens are going to resist that at every opportunity … this battle has been going on for years, and I, for one, am getting pretty sick of it. Like they always say … when you pry my cold dead hands from it …

  • lincoln’s widow

    More paranoid fodder meant to pander to limp brains.

    Gun freaks hear this NOW: you WILL be held accountable and you WILL be held responsible for your guns.

    Wake up to yourself.

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  • retired militaryq

    To #6
    To bad you dont feel the same about folks who are proabortion.

    Tell me this.

    What is the difference between the children who were killed at Sandy Hook and the living breathing children who survived a botched abortion but were denied medical care and died as a result?

    Answer Obama voted for the children who survived botched abortions to be denied medical care.

    So much for “For the children” and “even if we save one life it is worth it”

  • Servo1969

    I love it when people say “You people are nuts. That will never happen here.”
    Really?
    It happened in 2005 in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina.

  • JDR-Taq

    I’d bet my last dollar that “door-to-door getting shot by free citizens” is also a legitimate concern.

    As it should be.

  • usamopatriot

    #6
    Bring it on, Beotch.

  • lincoln’s widow

    You limp brain traitors are the people who are threatening insurrection, sedition and treason against the lawful government. I suggest you do it, bring it or shut your flaccid pieholes.

  • Another Bob

    Maybe #12 will volunteer to go door to door for Der Leader. #12 you are what Stalin called “useful idiots”

  • Warthog

    Yeah, what lincoln’s widow said!

    You Jews, get on the train already!

  • Lim Lynn

    @Lincoln’s Window
    Militia formed by Patriots aren’t traitors to 2nd Amendment which was written long ago before Traitor in Chief were born. Everyone who owns Gun really wanted to have a usual life not like Traitor in Chief who had an easy life being place into office with rigged election and continue all the worst case scenario abortion, gay rights and etc. So, Lincoln’s widow have you really forgotten now it’s Traitor in Chief threaten NRA and Gun Owners similar to King George III threaten its citizens who wanted independence 1776 American Independence. No more red tapes and restrictions made by Traitor in Chief and his goons of Unions.

  • lincoln’s widow

    A bunch of reckless cowboy wanna-be’s is NOT “well trained militia”. Bring your insurrection, bring your sedition, bring your treason. We’ll be waiting for you.

  • Lim Lynn

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snlYWC8zLFE
    I wonder whether Traitor in Chief will be reading all the 2 million letter which is impossible cause he doesn’t care for babies and children.

  • bigL

    Now just think that all these gun related issues most of them are lawful but a re being altered or restricted etc. There are maps of gun owners revealed by the Press.
    So why would gay men want to register w ith the govt to get married? They could easily be next.If a shariah component gets traction, a lot of the fellas would have a date with a crane.
    Don’t register guys, make it a civil ceremony or even a religion one but don’t let the state know. Create a civil contract spelling out what you want to do: Advanced H.C. directive and property etc.

  • cavt

    This is indeed a legitimate concern to be aware of. The dictator has proven over and over that he lies about everything so that is also a distinct possibility with his talk about guns.

  • lincoln’s widow

    Today in gun-related news:

    UPDATE: Suspects Mark Bornino and R. Daniel Volpone were arrested on the charge of discharging a firearm (AK-47)on or near a prohibited place, a third-degree felony, according to Terry Grice, Montville Township police chief. An arraignment proceeding took place this morning via video in Medina Municipal Court. The two men are being held at the Medina County Jail.

    http://medinagazette.northcoastnow.com/2013/01/17/shots-hit-montville-houses/

  • Practical Jane

    Wonder how long it will be before Lincoln’s (deranged) Widow realizes this is an adult forum, and that she (he?) won’t get the vitriol she/he seeks. What do I hear when I read her posts? A 12 year old mind. I wouldn’t converse with it (except to educate, and only then if it showed promise) and I certainly wouldn’t lend it’s thoughts any serious consideration.

    ————————————

    So, door to door, huh? Well, we’ll see.

  • #16 … with what?

  • Supernate

    Gun freaks hear this NOW: you WILL be held accountable and you WILL be held responsible for your guns.

    Who are you referring to—all gun owners? I’m already responsible for my own safety and the means with which I choose to protect myself. As another commenter pointed out, during Katrina, citizens were stripped of their right to defend themselves. Look at what happened with hurricane Sandy. People were fighting just to get gas. Should the government have posted police at every gas station?
    Your hyperbole is ridiculous, and should be viewed as utter nonsense. You’ll be one of the first victims during a crisis and will be begging for help when the government can’t be everywhere 24/7. Enjoy your utopia while your infantile mind imagines that CRIMINALS will be held accountable for your demise. You’ll be what Stalin considered a statistic.

  • Supernate

    lw, you do know that fully automatic weapons(which an AK47 is) are already illegal, right?

  • Supernate

    lw, you do know that fully automatic weapons(which an AK47 is) are already illegal, right? Are you going to advocate for a sealed border so weapons can’t be smuggled into the country ILLEGALLY! Otherwise, all of this is just bluster. If we can’t stop drugs and illegal aliens from entering the country undetected, what makes you think you can stop the flow of guns?

  • DaMav

    Nice job Keene — makes me so proud to be part of the National Rifle Association!

  • lincoln’s widow

    Nine hundred (900) plus gun related deaths in the USA since since the Newtown massacre. Naw, there’s no gun problems is there?

    If planes were falling out of the sky at the rate of 900 hundred deaths/month you gun freaks would be howling for increased air safety regulations. If 900 people/mo were dying from tainted medicine you would be crying to shut pharmaceutical companies down. But ask you freaks to be accountable and responsible for your guns? You whine like a bunch of spoiled, entitled brats whose toys are being taken away.

    Bring your insurrection, bring your sedition, bring your treason. See what it gets you.

  • Stephana

    Sure sounds like the widow fell of the short bus today.

  • Patty

    WE push and push but you can’t move a brick wall. (Government) The only way is to clear out those who are hellbent on taking our rights away are 2014 we can try to vote and change things and in 2016.

  • Lim Lynn

    @Patty
    I not sure how long can 2016 come by since we haven’t find out what the next agenda in the list will be implemented by Traitor in Chief.

  • Rock

    Today another 2150 babies will be killed, thanks to liberals and their baby killing fetish.
    For Barry’s whore I would also suggest the one who should be charged with sedition is the man who famously stated today we start to fundamentally change America. Then promptly started dissing the nation, our customs, religion and the Constitution, exactly why the 2nd. Amendment was created.

  • Patty

    Obama Second Term Preview: We Are All Chicagoans Now

    […………………………………….]

    Obama now rules America the Chicago way. He plays to racial and ethnic divisions and resentments, stoking class warfare while convincing business leaders that he is the only game in town. He punishes opponents harshly and rewards supporters generously, putting the “bully” in pulpit and the “crony” in capitalism. He behaves as if Congress is the Chicago City Council–a one-party chamber whose rancor can be safely ignored.[………………………..]

    Meanwhile, our nation’s troubles continue. We will likely see another debt downgrade soon, which the media will again fail to blame on the president. New threats to our national security are emerging from an expanding Al Qaeda and an emboldened Iran and China, while our allies are on their own. The generation that voted Obama into office, both times, is ironically the least hopeful that they will live better lives than their parents did.

    Rahm Emanuel famously observed, at the dawn of Obama’s first term, that “you never want a serious crisis to go to waste” because it “provides the opportunity for us to do things that you could not do before.” Obama still wants to do many things that could not–and ought not–be done. So he creates new crises to exploit. America cannot move forward except on his terms.

    Hizzoner, the Mayor of America.

    Welcome to Chicago.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/17/Obama-Second-Term-Preview-Welcome-to-Chicago-America

  • Patty

    Now, there will be another Crisis that for Obama won’t go to waste. Let us pray there won’t be, problem there always is.

  • Lim Lynn

    @Highlander
    Anti Gun activists/Gun Grabbers will have their their adrenaline kicks in and sadistic side emerged when being entertain foreign troops removing rifles and handguns from Law Abiding Gun Owners. Later, we see Traitor in Chief burn every copy US Constitution.

  • shadow

    you do know that fully automatic weapons(which an AK47 is) are already illegal, right?

    But doesn’t that violate the Second Amendment? What tyrant signed that into law? And how did I miss him being frog-marched out of the White House by the “Patriot” militia?

  • lincoln’s widow

    Hey rock if you know someone who has killed a baby or babies then you need to report it to the police.

  • Lim Lynn

    @Patty
    Finally, [1st Amendment been abolished after Traitor in Chief burned every copy US Constitution] every man, woman and child who opposed Traitor in Chief will be sent to reeducation camp UN style Amerika TV Series to be brainwashed Socialist Democrat Commie to obey, snitch neighbors and worship Traitor in Chief after he died similar Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Trotsky and others in long list of dictators.

  • MT Geoff

    Howdy lincoln’s widow
    As cowboy-wanna-bes, my son and I have been involved in Cowboy Action Shooting for several years. We have learned gun safety, courtesy, cooperation, target acquisition, marksmanship and respect for rules in this group. When my son took a professional firearms class, his experience was very helpful.
    Howdy all
    The Miller 2nd Amendment decision said that the 2nd Amendment applies to weapons commony used or suitable for military use. The US military has generally issued automatic weapons only to specific members of squads — the M16 full-auto era being something of an exception. That’s because the military believes that full-auto weapons have specific application rather than being broadly appropriate. On that basis, then, the Miller standard could be seen as any firearms comparable to standard military or police weapons but not necessarily the specialty weapons, like grenades or full auto. Many commenters have suggested the same standard.
    The “assault weapons” ban never came up for Supreme Court review. If it is reinstated and gets to a court, it ought to be tossed because the 2nd Amendment is actually all about weapons (arms) of military capability, even if not full auto.

  • Joanne

    #6 lincoln’s widow says –
    “More paranoid fodder meant to pander to limp brains.

    Gun freaks hear this NOW: you WILL be held accountable and you WILL be held responsible for your guns.

    Wake up to yourself.”

    And how do you propose to do that – with guns? Hah. You live in a country with the 2nd Amendment which gives Americans the right to bear arms. If you don’t like it, why live there – move to Britain or somewhere where only the criminals and police have guns.

  • Rock

    coln’s widow commented:

    Hey rock if you know someone who has killed a baby or babies then you need to report it to the police.
    __________________________________________________

    Why would I do that the current administration have authorized it, and do-boy Holder will only carry Barry berry’s.

  • Joanne

    Why does Obama need millions of rounds of hollow point bullets and sharp-shooter bullets? Huh! How is Obama going to confiscate guns, which is the whole point of this whole fiasco bullcrap he is pushing? Huh! His brown shirts will go after individuals, armed to the teeth, to confiscate guns, causing fear in the populace – and no doubt they will shoot and kill people who refuse, just to show what they are capable of. Look how the police took guns after Katrina – they approached a few people at a time, with automatic weapons and took guns taking no record of it, breaking the 2nd Amendment. First, registration, then confiscation – it is always the same; they WILL come for your guns. Even Bank of America is refusing to process purchases of guns and ammo on visa purchases – what the h*ll is with that.

    Obama HAS to get your guns to take over – this is the American people’s last stand. There is no waiting for another election – it isn’t who votes or how people vote, it is who counts the votes. Obama cheated his win in the last election, and he will do it over and over again. Wise up.

  • gsrider

    @lincolns b!tch-

    You’ll be waiting? With what? You and shadow can wait together.

  • OldSailor

    For lincoln’s widow – if gun control truely worked then Chicago, Washington DC and New York wouldn’t rack up double digit or triple digit body counts every month. These 3 cities have probably the most restrictive gun laws in the nation AND the highest firearm murder rates.

    Face it, the only people who would be disarmed by the laws you want would be the law abiding.

    Answer me this “widow:” Are we obligated to obey unconstitutional laws and regulations? 40 years ago I swore an oath to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States,” not to roll over and play dead when required by some tin-horn.

  • Winston Wolfe

    you WILL be held accountable and you WILL be held responsible for your guns. – lincoln’s b!tch

    Make your best move, boy. Anytime.

  • Joanne

    Keene is totally right. They will go door-to-door, and Obama’s executive orders don’t have anything to do with stopping gun violence in mass shootings – nothing at all, zippo. It is all about Obama’s ideology – and his communist ideology at that. One thing never changes with communists – they always disarm the people – they have to do this; otherwise, every other communist agenda achievement they’ve made is moot. There is nothing they fear more than an armed populace.

  • Supernate

    But doesn’t that violate the Second Amendment? What tyrant signed that into law? And how did I miss him being frog-marched out of the White House by the “Patriot” militia?

    I believe it is. Guns are banned in Chicago, yet gun violence continues. CRIMINALS don’t obey LAWS. Disarming everyone only increases the chances of LAW-ABIDING citizens becoming victims with the inability to defend themselves from the CRIMINALS.
    I don’t carry a gun outside my home, nor do I belong to a militia. Come to my house with the intent to harm my family or my property, and I’ll defend them.
    I don’t think the government should be collecting information on LAW-ABIDING citizens for participating in their constitutional rights. You may have a differenct opinion. You don’t want a gun, don’t get one. That’s your constitutional right. But don’t tell me how I should defend myself or my family.
    Are you for militarizing the borders to ensure that no weapons can be smuggled into or out of the country? If not, why? Black markets thrive on this type of thinking. Prohibition, the War on Drugs, etc., are money makers for CRIMINALS, right? You don’t really have a solution for the problem of gun violence, you have slogans and ideological agendas with which you demonize those who don’t believe as you do.

  • Winston Wolfe

    We’ll be waiting for you. – lincoln’s b!tch

    Snort. No, you won’t.

    You’ll still be sitting there pounding away furiously on your keyboard, and should some knock come on your door? You’ll crawl under the bed and hope all the big, bad mean people go away.

    Puss.

  • Joanne

    If former President Bush was trying this bullcrap on the American people – the left would be going insane because they fear the right, but when their guys are doing it, they are all for it.

    Let’s remember communists do no disarm their own, just like Stalin did not disarm his party members. Obama wants to disarm people he perceives to be a threat to him and his communist agenda. Didn’t Obama say something to the effect that he is keeping track? Just like Obama closed down auto dealerships that didn’t fund his election campaign but kept auto dealerships who funded his campaign open, he will use the same bias with gun owners.

  • Yes, Lincoln’s Widow, I too am curious about what you’re going to do when you say “Bring your insurrection, bring your sedition, bring your treason. We’ll be waiting for you.” So you’ll be waiting, huh? Pretty tough talk coming from a defenseless Liberal. What are you going to do scream insults at us, then throw sticks and rocks?

  • lincoln’s widow

    Insurrection, sedition, treason.

    Burn those words into your limp noodle brains.

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  • TrickyDick

    from my cold, dead hands……

  • Joanne

    Annie J – they aren’t going to be giving up their arms – they will be the ones with the arms demanding others to give up their arms. Lincoln’s b*tch is threatening people who want their arms to protect themselves.

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  • Supernate

    #51 January 17, 2013 at 12:45 pm
    lincoln’s widow commented:

    Insurrection, sedition, treason.

    Burn those words into your limp noodle brains.

    You failed to answer my question regarding the boarder, and the smuggling of arms. What’s treasonous about exercising a constitutional right? As far as your other blather, meh.

  • lincoln’s widow

    See today’s results of the Washington Post/ABC News & Pew polls on guns and assault weapons:

    Washington Post/ABC News results

    Ban on Assault Weapons
    Support 58%
    Oppose 39%

    Background Checks Before Buying Guns at Gun Shows
    Support 88%
    Oppose 11%

    Ban on High Capacity Ammunition Clips
    Support 65%
    Oppose 32%

    Poll taken Jan 10-13 +/- 3 points

    You fools continue to be on the wrong side of history. How’s that working for ya?

  • Joanne

    Annie J – lincoln’s b*tch is not going to be unarmed – they will be armed and coming for YOUR guns. They have no intention of giving up their arms or will they be forced to do so. For some reason people think that the laws will apply to ALL Americans – nope!

    So if Obama gets everyone’s guns, will he no longer need armed protection for himself and his children. Hah! What a joke.

  • Supernate

    Please remember to cite a poll when a criminal robs you with a gun. Are you going to answer my question about boarder closure with regard to arms smuggling, otherwise I’ll just ignore your blather?

  • Exile1981

    The guy calling himself lincolns widow call us “limp noodle brains” 3 times so far.

    I did a little google search and found out it’s a common line from a song by a band called “Insane Clown Posse”

    Given the target audience of the music by Insane Clown Posse, I suspect that LW is actually a teenage boy, likely 17 or so living in his mom’s basement and likely 200-250lbs, He spends an hour or so a day doing his face paint up trying to hide the numerous pimples he sports. I also suspect he has very few friends at his high school.

  • Supernate

    Given the target audience of the music by Insane Clown Posse, I suspect that LW is actually a teenage boy, likely 17 or so living in his mom’s basement and likely 200-250lbs, He spends an hour or so a day doing his face paint up trying to hide the numerous pimples he sports. I also suspect he has very few friends at his high school.

    IOW, when its life takes a southern turn, it’ll be the next Jared Loghner, James Holmes, or Adam Lanza, without the intelligence.

  • BOTTOM LINE:

    The American People cannot compromise on their Constitutional Rights… because the United States Constitution must not be compromised.

  • Missouri State Senator Brian Nieves District 26 Capital Report:

    Column For the Week of Jan. 14, 2013

    Protecting Our Second Amendment Rights
    for a Safer Missouri

    As many are aware, I have no hesitation when it comes to standing up and defending our rights as outlined by the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Not everyone agrees with my stance on firearms in our country, but I strongly feel that word needs to be spread regarding the importance of this American freedom. I have serious concerns regarding the preservation of our free country — we must ensure our constitutional rights are passed on to our children and grandchildren.

    Since the tragic school shooting in Connecticut, many individuals have expressed to me that there should be further restrictions on weapons that are specifically designed to hold several rounds of ammunition or have a military-like appearance. I’ve also heard from individuals all across the board who say we should “give in,” or compromise regarding gun control. Though I respect the opinions of my fellow Missourians, I firmly believe we have a solid right to own firearms, and it should be Missourians’ preference as to how many firearms they own.

    Allow me to explain. Our Founding Fathers were very clear as to why they thought Americans should own weapons. If individuals would collectively take a short amount of time to actually research what our Founding Fathers stated about gun ownership and control, they would see that what many arbitrarily refer to as “assault rifles” would fit squarely with what our Founding Fathers wanted us to possess. Keep in mind, our country’s first leaders had just escaped tyranny and experienced firsthand the consequences of a power-hungry government. Our Founding Fathers knew that unarmed people become “subjects,” while people who are free to protect themselves are “citizens.” They knew that government, by its very nature, would continually seek more power and that it had an insatiable hunger for more of our money and our liberty. Our great leaders wanted American citizens to be free to protect themselves from, God forbid, a tyrannical government.

    Now, am I afraid our government will become an absolute dictatorship in my lifetime? No; however, I do understand the very nature of government, and a tyrannical government could someday be possible. As American citizens, we must guard today what we want tomorrow, and therefore, we can never allow government to take even one small step further in the direction of restricting citizens’ right to own firearms.

    Individuals may argue that my position is old-fashioned and doesn’t apply to modern times, and although I disagree, here is a more “modern” reason why our Second Amendment Rights are vital to us now. You may or may not be familiar with the absolute financial crisis — no, emergency — our country is in, but I’m acutely aware. We are living in a time when it is possible for the American dollar to lose its standing as the international medium of exchange.

    As it stands right now, countries have to buy and sell on the international market using U.S. dollars — this means when countries buy oil from OPEC (Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries), they use U.S. currency. I could go into lengthy detail to explain all the aspects of how America, as we know it, could literally cease to exist if we lose the coveted position the U.S. dollar currently holds as the international medium of exchange. However, I will say this: the America you are accustomed to would no longer exist, and it is possible (even likely) that we could become weakened to the point of inviting an invading army. If that were to ever occur, and I pray it doesn’t, I want an AR-15 in every closet of every house in America. Some Missourians do not believe this situation would happen, and I fervently pray they are correct. I fail to receive comfort in believing that the weakening of our nation could never happen, and I would feel much better if American citizens were armed.

    Gun control laws empower the government by making the people weak and encourage criminals because they have no regard for what the law states. Increased gun control would disarm the innocent and weaken those who follow the law. I want all my constituents and loved ones to know that I will never back down, not even one inch, on the subject of gun control, and I will fight any measure in the Legislature that further restricts our God-given right to defend ourselves. Gun control is not about guns — it’s about control.

    I appreciate you reading this important Capitol Report, and please stay tuned to the imperative discussions we will have in the upper chamber throughout the 2013 legislative session. Thank you and God bless.

    Contact Information

    Capitol Office
    State Capitol

    Room 423
    Jefferson City, MO 65101

    Website:
    http://www.senate.mo.gov/nieves

    Phone Number:
    (573) 751-3678

  • GotFreedom

    The Feds already come banging on our front doors trying to garner personal info with the American Community Survey (that goes way beyond what is required by the Census)! If they think they can get away with asking you personal questions that have no bearing on how many Reps each state has in the Congress, why wouldn’t they think they could just waltz right in and take our guns out of our homes–they must be stopped NOW!

  • Lim Lynn

    http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2013/01/mayor-predicts-waco-style-standoff-over-ny-gun-laws-2485316.html
    It will happen like Traitor in Chief vs American citizens similar to Government vs Waco residents wild west.

  • AM

    @Supernate – Hey my friend – so you know – Just because an AK-47 is an AK-47 – does not make it fully automatic… I have 5 of them…. none fully auto… Most any semi-auto rifle can be converter to fully-auto but that is already illegal in this country… AK’s are a great weapon… the same applies to anything else such as AR-15’s SKS’s Mini-14’s etc… “Full-auto” is an illegal modification in this country… although you can purchase legally what is known as a bump-stock which has no moving parts and basically gives the shooter a rapid-fire burst of rounds…

  • Lim Lynn

    @Joanne
    Seems American citizens already come to their sense it’s time to be prepared for worst case scenario. Possible Lincoln’s Widow is super deaf without listening to very silent echo ricochet sound of bullet passing through the field.
    http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2013/01/gun-store-photos-tell-the-tale-preparing-for-hunting-or-survival-2456838.html

  • Lim Lynn

    @lincoln’s widow
    Sometimes you also got to understand tyrant King Ahab married Jezebel had famine, 3 1/2 drought and oppress prophets. You know what happen at the end Jezebel’s was thrown down from the wall of the Palace and feed to the dogs and King Ahab died in battle.

  • lincoln’s widow

    “The American People cannot compromise on their Constitutional Rights… because the United States Constitution must not be compromised.”

    Then wtf are amendments for?!

    gawdblessyourcottonsocks, but if you think the constitution isn’t amendable then we would still have slaves and you would have no right to vote. Be careful what you wish for.

    The constitution is a living document, not static but dynamic. It is subject to change, youbetcha. Please don’t tell me that polisci is one of the subjects you teach.

    With all due respect.

  • @ #54 & 58, Joanne, you are probably right.
    @ #63 TeachX, Your post is absolutely correct about protecting ourselves from a tyrannical government but let’s also not forget that having our citizens armed also protects us from an invasion on our soil from foreign invaders. Although the following statement attributed to Japan’s Admiral Yamamoto of WWII has been proven unsubstaniated it still has a lot of truth in it. “You cannot invade America. There is a rifle behind everyblade of grass.” Although we may not be faced with a tyrannical government during our lifetime, we ARE faced with many terrorist factions that wish to take us out today.

  • Freddie Sykes

    Remember this speech from that progressive wet dream, The American President: “You cannot address crime prevention without getting rid of assault weapons and handguns. I consider them a threat to national security, and I will go door to door if I have to, but I’m gonna convince Americans that I’m right, and I’m gonna get the guns.”

    When the president comes to your door for your guns, he will be accompanied by a cadre of armed gunmen.

  • Amalgamated Cliff Divers, Local 157

    gawdblessyourcottonsocks, but if you think the constitution isn’t amendable then we would still have slaves and you would have no right to vote. Be careful what you wish for.

    The constitution is a living document, not static but dynamic. It is subject to change, youbetcha. Please don’t tell me that polisci is one of the subjects you teach.

    With all due respect.

    You’ve shown no respect for anyone that disagrees with you. Of course the constitution is amendable, but not by executive fiat. I see you’ve failed to address the question posed to you regarding border security to ensure that guns wouldn’t be smuggled into this country. Why?

  • #69 January 17, 2013 at 3:00 pm
    lincoln’s widow commented:

    “The American People cannot compromise on their Constitutional Rights… because the United States Constitution must not be compromised.”

    Then wtf are amendments for?!

    gawdblessyourcottonsocks, but if you think the constitution isn’t amendable then we would still have slaves and you would have no right to vote. Be careful what you wish for.

    The constitution is a living document, not static but dynamic. It is subject to change, youbetcha. Please don’t tell me that polisci is one of the subjects you teach.

    With all due respect.

    … I did not say the Constitution can not be amended… compromised and amended have two different meanings.

    … you always say, “With all due respect”, why?

  • Lim Lynn

    @lincoln’s widow
    CliffsNotes.com. The Amendment Process and Bill of Rights. 17 Jan 2013
    .
    Written Bill of Rights similar to Malaysian Constitution aren’t living document since is a historical value with constitution law that can be enforced and how a government should function.

  • Lim Lynn

    http://www.cliffsnotes.com/study_guide/The-Amendment-Process-and-Bill-of-Rights.topicArticleId-65383,articleId-65423.html
    I always find evidences and characteristics Socialist Democrat Commie who denies law and order since they wanted order out of chaos after they created the chaos. Seems Lincoln’s widow have similar characteristics Party Socialist Malaysia where they want to trample on the Constitution, destroy patriotism and change our national identities to become Socialist Democrat Commie Utopia abomination desolate where everyone is poorer and under their control.

  • #69:

    com·pro·mise
    n.
    1.
    a. A settlement of differences in which each side makes concessions.
    b. The result of such a settlement.
    2. Something that combines qualities or elements of different things: The incongruous design is a compromise between high tech and early American.
    3. A concession to something detrimental or pejorative: a compromise of morality.
    v. com·pro·mised, com·pro·mis·ing, com·pro·mis·es
    v.intr.
    1. To arrive at a settlement by making concessions.
    2. To reduce the quality, value, or degree of something.
    v.tr.
    1.
    a. To expose or make liable to danger, suspicion, or disrepute: a secret mission that was compromised and had to be abandoned; compromise one’s standing in the community.
    b. To reduce in quality, value, or degree; weaken or lower.
    2. To impair by disease or injury: an immune system that was compromised by a virus.
    3. To settle by mutual concessions: a dispute that was compromised.

    a·mend
    v. a·mend·ed, a·mend·ing, a·mends
    v.tr.
    1. To change for the better; improve: amended the earlier proposal so as to make it more comprehensive.
    2. To remove the faults or errors in; correct. See Synonyms at correct.
    3. To alter (a legislative measure, for example) formally by adding, deleting, or rephrasing.
    4. To enrich (soil), especially by mixing in organic matter or sand.
    v.intr.
    To better one’s conduct; reform.

    “With all due respect.”

  • lincoln’s widow

    The synonym of “compromise” is “amends”. Please don’t let us split hairs, dear. And the history and the government of USA is built on the very foundation of compromise. I don’t understand why it is such a frightening thing to some if you. Every frikin day you live is a compromise of sort.

    WADR

  • Lim Lynn

    @Exile1981
    You deduce similar to middle 2011 comment. He been commenting around middle 2011. It has been the same illogical comments posted before and after I took a break.

  • Lim Lynn

    @TeachX3
    It will never change anything you try to correct him since he had been stubborn and did irritate a few people the last time. It has been long ago people ignored him.

  • Lim Lynn

    @lincoln’s widow
    Earlier history founding United States they fight tooth and nail to get their freedoms. Blood, sweat and tears allowed America to gain independence from Britain. Debunk your dream of government lead by Traitor in Chief to compromise with people.
    George Santayana once said, “Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it”
    Life of Reason, Reason in Common Sense, Scribner’s, 1905, p. 284

  • Lim Lynn #79… thank you. Yes, I know… *sigh* “You can lead a liberal to logic, but you can’t make them think.”

  • lincoln’s widow

    Here’s what that flaming bleeding heart “liberal”, St. Ronald Reagan has to say about gun control:

    “This is a matter of vital importance to the public safety … While we recognize that assault-weapon legislation will not stop all assault-weapon crime, statistics prove that we can dry up the supply of these guns, making them less accessible to criminals.”

    –Ronald Reagan, in a May 3, 1994 letter to the U.S. House of Representatives, which was also signed by Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford.

    “I do not believe in taking away the right of the citizen for sporting, for hunting and so forth, or for home defense. But I do believe that an AK-47, a machine gun, is not a sporting weapon or needed for defense of a home.”

    –Ronald Reagan, in a speech at his 78th birthday celebration in Los Angeles on February 6, 1989.

    “Certain forms of ammunition have no legitimate sporting, recreational, or self-defense use and thus should be prohibited.”

    –Ronald Reagan, in an August 28, 1986 signing statement on a bill that banned the production and importation of armor-piercing bullets.

    “With the right to bear arms comes a great responsibility to use caution and common sense on handgun purchases.”

    –Ronald Reagan, speech at George Washington University in a on March 29, 1991.

    “Every year, an average of 9,200 Americans are murdered by handguns, according to Department of Justice statistics. This does not include suicides or the tens of thousands of robberies, rapes and assaults committed with handguns. This level of violence must be stopped.”

    –Ronald Reagan, in a March 29, 1991 New York Times op-ed in support of the Brady Bill.

    “I think maybe there could be some restrictions that there had to be a certain amount of training taken.”

    –Ronald Reagan, in a press conference in Toronto on June 21, 1988, suggesting that prospective gun owners should have to receive training before purchasing a firearm.

    “Well, I think there has to be some control.”

    –Ronald Reagan, during a question-and-answer session with high-school students on November 14, 1988.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/12/reagan-obama-feinstein-gun-quiz.html

  • JDR-Taq

    Lim Lynn.

    Most exellent new commenter: your comments are appreciated, despite (and maybe because of) your lack of familiarity with the written English language.

    You remind me of a commenter at FloppingAces(dot)net, called “ilovebeeswarzone”.

    This one is a similar newbie to the language, and yet displays amazing intelligence and acumen with every single comment.

    Lim — don’t allow anyone to discourage you — wisdom is more important than the knowledge of arcane rules of writing.

  • JDR-Taq

    Troll-feeding time.

    L.W.:

    Ronaldus was indeed a liberal. A progressive. He had the good fortune of being a Hollywood star who could act any role. He did good. Under his watch (and under that of those five Presidents before him), Communism not only Took America, but also convinced the Reaganheads (of which I, deluded as most, was one), that Reagan Defeated Communism.

    He ignored the macrocosm of the attack on our marines in Beiruit. Because, like a typical Hollywood Elite liberal, he was ignorant of Muslim history and theology. It was just “an isolated event”.

    Under Reagan, and because of his deluded followers, Communism took America, bent it over, and made it their b&tch. While convincing many Americans that we beat Communism.

    OH, THE GOD-DAMNED IRONY.

    More than anyone but the Ghost of Joseph McCarthy understands.

  • JDR-Taq

    Oh, and Ronald Reagan was almost killed with a .22 six-shooter.

    Was any sweeping gun legislation passed after that? Or after the Ford Theater shooting of Lincoln, for that matter?

    None.

    But then, Satan didn’t rule America then, either. Gotta acknowledge that difference.

  • AuntieMadder

    Well, he!!, yeah, it’s a legitimate concern when you have state governors and US reps using the “c” word (confiscation) and doctors asking patients, as if it’s any of their damned business, if there are guns kept in the home.

  • Joanne

    The cat is out of the bag in America – there are so many guns out there that there is no way any authority is going to keep guns out of the hands of criminals……no way, never. They always go after the guns belonging to law-abiding people, because they are easy to control. First it will be ‘assault’ weapons, and then it will go down the line until the American people do not have any guns – it is ‘the frog in the water set to boil’ effect. They just have to start somewhere and the rest will be easy. What do all those young men who killed numerous people have in common – legal pharmaceuticals – how about stopping the prescription of drugs that cause these young men to have no empathy for others? Huh!

  • Time

    Blessed be the fools they send into states that have said NOOOOOOO.

  • Tabby

    @ Lincolns Widow (# 27)

    Guns are used in self defense approximately 2.5 million times a year. That’s 6,849 every day. Often the gun is never fired and no blood (including the criminal’s) is shed.

    That means every day 550 rapes, 1,100 murders, and 5,200 other violent crimes are prevented just by showing a gun. In less than 0.9% of these instances is the gun ever actually fired.

    So I’d say my stats trump yours.

  • Lim Lynn

    @JDR-Taq
    Seems I been feeling more GroundHogs day when Fascist Socialist Democrat Commie seems to blame everyone yet again but before election they will say for 4 more years or x number of permanent worship of Traitor in Chief. Though I did fill tired leading Socialist Democrat Commie in Bleachasylum debate section to the facts but you can make acknowledge the facts similar to Ghost, Lincoln’s widow and other Socialist Democrat Commie kept on blaming on other manufacturers for untoward incidents happen to American citizens.[to drink the water you can lead a mule to water but you can’t make him drink.]

  • Kingslayor

    So criminal gangs, cartel gang menbers, and criminals period, can obtain automatic weapons if the money is right. So if the public is finally relalizing that law enforcement and the federal government can’t protect them. Then they are going to protect themselves. Now there is a criminal government threatening the rights of law abiding citizens. How about if you commit a crime with a fire arm and kill someone you get the death penalty!!! Oh thats right its easer to kill the unborn than the murder.

  • Lim Lynn

    Not forgetting Shadow too a similar to Ghost and Lincoln’s wife comments which are diverting everyone’s attention to unimportant issue.

  • Lim Lynn

    weaselzippers.us/2013/01/18/newsweek-cover-hails-second-coming-of-chicago-jesus/
    They Newsweek and Socialist Democrat Commie worship Traitor in Chief
    weaselzippers.us/2013/01/18/obama-executive-order-quietly-removes-1995-ban-on-using-federal-funds-to-advocate-for-gun-control/
    Executive Orders removed 1995 Ban Federal Funds to advocate gun control.
    weaselzippers.us/2013/01/18/obama-campaign-organization-to-reform-as-a-non-profit-devoted-to-pushing-obamas-agenda/
    Traitor in Chief NGO pushed Gun Control profits.
    Daniel 8:25
    And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand
    weaselzippers.us/2013/01/18/anti-gun-democrat-brandishes-ak-47-on-virginia-state-house-floor/
    Socialist Democrat Commie holds onto AK 47.
    weaselzippers.us/2013/01/18/nra-biden-told-us-we-dont-have-the-time-to-enforce-existing-gun-laws/
    Biden don’t have the time to enforce existing gun laws.
    weaselzippers.us/2013/01/18/reporter-journalists-swooned-over-obama-when-they-got-to-meet-him-head-over-heels/
    Reporters and Journalists falls for AntiChrist.
    weaselzippers.us/2013/01/18/poll-65-see-gun-rights-as-protection-against-tyranny/
    2nd Amendment Gun Rights as protection against Tyranny.
    weaselzippers.us/2013/01/18/nra-not-backing-down-hammers-obama-for-wanting-to-reduce-your-freedom-to-ashes/
    Traitor in Chief reduce freedom to ashes.

  • john graham

    #71…true, the president will be accompanied by a cadre of feds……but I will be accompanied by a cadre of AMERICAN PATRIOTS……we shall see if they are willing to die for their paychecks…..I AM WILLING TOO, FOR MY FREEDOM……WE SHALL SEE

  • john graham

    and to lincolns idiot…….WE ARE ALREADY HELD ACCOUNTABLE IF WE COMMIT A CRIME WITH OUR FIREARMS…….IDIOT…….WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HOLD THE CRIMINALS ACCOUNTABLE??????

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