St. Louis County Police Chief Says Gun Control Laws Won’t Do Any Good

St. Louis County Police Chief Tim Fitch says new gun control laws won’t do any good.
“The horse is out of the barn.”

FOX2 Now reported:

St. Louis County Police Chief Tim Fitch created controversy after the Newtown, Connecticut massacre when he said that school employees should be armed.

President Barack Obama and others favor re-instating the ban on assault weapons and outlawing ammunition magazines that hold more than ten rounds. Chief fitch says it’s way too late for any of that.

Chief Fitch says the rush to buy guns after the massacre of schoolchildren in Newtown shows that it’s too late for any new gun control laws to have any real effect. Fitch says with hundreds of millions of guns already in the hands of private owners in the United States, that it’s already easy for anyone who wants to have a gun to get one. And Fitch says armed deterrence, like having an armed police officer at every school, is easier to do than trying to get guns off the street.

“I think that horse is out of the barn. We know there’s over three hundred million guns in this country that are out there. I don’t think there’s any way, I mean, if you pass a law it may feel good to pass a law, but realistically, what’s it going to change? You’re not going to, nobody in this country’s going to go up and knock on every door person’s door and say turn in your assault weapons, turn in your ammo. That’s not going to happen,” stated Chief Fitch.

Hat Tip Ed

** Radio host Dana Loesch spoke with Police Chief Fitch recently on arming the schools.

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  • ebayer

    Count on the criminalization to possess just about every gun you can think of. Not only restrictions, but actual criminalization of possessing a banned firearm.
    DHS, the TSA and certain, but not all, law enforcement agencies are going to be elbow deep in riot control in response to an economic incident. At the same time or close to it, gun confiscation will start.

    Watch how this fiscal cliff thing plays out. This is the run-up to the next big economic event.
    The fiscal crisis. This is planned,the lack of deal is planned. In fact, it’s necessary to pave the way for what is in the short term agenda.

  • SeniorD

    Besides, the Urban Gangs have their own pipelines for weapons.

  • wales

    This will explain a lot of this crap.

  • Skandia Recluse

    “Not going to happen” ??

    51% of the voters disagree, ‘they’ voted for Obama after all is said. Somebody start asking that 51% how many want to change their votes now.

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  • Hoser

    You know, the only reason I have not purchased a HK MP5 machine gun is because it’s against the law.Make the law irrelevant and I guess Christmas is coming early next year.Wooohhhooo!!!

  • anti-bho

    Uh oh! Sh*t’s about to hit the fan if the old bat Feinstein gets this passed……..

    Assault Weapons – Issues – United States Senator Dianne Feinstein

  • OldSailor

    First, every politician who wants “gun control” should first step up and give up his guns and armed body guards and also remove his kids from any school or other location protected by armed guards or cops.

    Step up and set the pace guys … or sit down and STFU about disarming the law abiding citizens.

  • Economan

    These Statist are concerned about guns? What about guns Obama has given to our enemies overseas and drug cartels? Not a peep from Fienstien or any other idiot “conserned” about guns.

    Come get mine you pathetic witch!

  • db
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  • Look at Chicago it has some of the most restricted gun-control laws on books,yet its one of most bloody city in the country terms of gun-related deaths………

  • Guarding

    I have a much better idea for a safer America.
    Ban traitorous anti Second Amendment Democrats

  • Carol-Christian Soldier

    you have D. Feinstein becasue of the R party!

    The NRSC came to CA and together with the CRP- “sprung ” M.Huffington upon us- when a man of honor -Congressman Dannemeyer was winning the primary ..
    seasoned volunteers said that Huffington would be worse than Feinstein- so they voted for her-
    SO- THANK the R elites for D Feinstein!!-
    THANK YOU NRSC and the R elites! SARC!

  • Carol-Christian Soldier

    Is it true that the father of the Aurora shooter and the father of the Sandy Hook shooter were allegedly expected to testify in the Libor scandal that rocked the banking world in June?

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  • theBuckWheat

    As far as I am concerned, the advocates of more restrictions on firearms ownership have yet to even acknowledge their burden of proof of the efficacy of their proposals. That is, when we outlaw a previously-legal style of firearm and outlaw previously legal accessories to those firearms like 30 round magazines, what level of NET improvement in the public safety should we expect and at what NET cost?

    But be honest here. Safety and cost, facts and logic have nothing to do with the current rush to ban because it is an effort to advance a pre-existing agenda and ideology as far as possible as the present crisis will permit it.

    How much money are we going to divert from, say raiding medical marijuana clinics, to hunting down people with newly-outlawed 30 round magazines? This is not an unimportant because with our trillion dollar deficit we can only allocate so much borrowing to fund new government programs. The Sandy Hook massacre invites, we are told by the media, three “national conversations” that the media like David Gregory hopes to control. Those are on firearms regulations, school safety and treatment the mentally disturbed.

    But when we start to deal with school safety and mental health, those items will eventually have budget impact as surely as night follows day. If we pass changes to firearms law that must of necessity divert expensive law enforcement resources, how much of our borrowing capacity will remain to fund improvements in school safety or mental health services?

    And if, based on history documented below, that few of the estimated 100 million magazines in private hands are destroyed or turned in, what level of real public safety improvment are we to get for the money we must spend to enforce the law? Is this a fool’s errand, or are politicians just pandering to people who see and end to the failed war on drugs and are looking to fund a new (equally fruitless) war on something else? I am beginning to think the latter is sadly true, at least in part.


    Gun Restrictions Have Always Bred Defiance, Black Markets
    For reasons of their own, most people, in many countries, defy anti-gun laws
    J.D. Tuccille | December 22, 2012

  • theBuckWheat

    “Over the last fifty years, with only one single exception (Gabby Giffords), every single mass shooting event with more than four casualties has taken place in a place where guns were supposedly not allowed.”


  • Sam Stone

    #2 ebayer commented:

    When you use verbatim some others work you should add the link.

  • LibertysSon

    Yes, Very true. Bad guys don’t obey the law.

  • Whiskeytangofoxtrot

    Isn’t it interesting that they can tell you there is no way to deport 30,000,000+ illegals (they can’t seem to find either) but by God they think they can find all the firearms in some way?
    They are so bold that they are transparent in their boldness. They don’t even hesitate to lie at the drop of any hat and just like the class troublemaker, smirk and defy you to find a principal who would beat their sorry a$$. I never dreamed that our nation could sink into a leftist cesspool but here we are!

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  • American Woman

    The Police Chief know what he is talking about. The criminals always can get their hands on weapons.

    When do we march on Washington?

  • American Woman

    The Obama Administration was in fact transporting guns across the Mexico border and putting them in the hands of criminals. It has given guns to criminals throughout the Middle East and continues to do so in Syria.

    This begs the question:
    How do our elected reps have the nerve to attack the civil liberties of a Free People?

    Many of them should be in jail for supporting the Obama Administration’s illegal trafficing in Guns a/k/a Fast and Furious or turning a blind eye to it.

    When do we march on Washington?

  • Frimp

    There’s over 300 million guns? There are more guns in the country than there are people? Given that not everyone in the country owns a gun, that would be pretty incredible, if it were true.

    Oh, look. And we’ve got a person who posts a link to an internet publication that is supposedly in the interests of another country and yet which declares that the US is the only country that matters; a person who believes that those who’ve recently committed mass shootings are tied to international financial scandals; and a person who thinks the fiscal cliff is part of a vast conspiracy. Lots of logical positions, here.

    The problem with evaluating internal gun laws is that we have to compare every gun law against that of a neighboring state. Unless and until the US has completely uniform gun laws (which it won’t), there is absolutely no way to tell which laws are effective and which laws are not. But, hey, we CAN look at other countries. And guess what? The countries with restrictive gun laws have fewer gun-related homicides than the US. Most recent statistics put us at 3.7 gun-related homicides per 100,000 people. Let’s look at the UK and Australia, both countries that gun advocates like to reference. The usual claim is that gun-related homicides have exploded, have gone out of control, since the implementation of stricter gun laws in these countries. So, what was the UK’s rate last year? 0.25 per 100,000 people. And what was Australia’s? It was 0.09 per 100,000. It was even lower than the UK’s! How could that possibly be? If not every citizen in Australia is armed, then surely the criminals must be running rampant! How could they possibly have managed to have so few gun-related homicides when they have no gun-toting law-abiding citizens to scare the bad guys into keeping their safteys on? It boggles the mind!

    We have the highest gun-related homicide rate in the Western world. This is fact. We are sandwiched between South American dictatorships, failed democracies, and third-world countries. You all speak impotently about the supposed negative impact of gun control while failing the recognize the stark reality of the situation: as far as goes the regulation of violence and criminal activity, we rank behind our peers, and it’s not as a result of our gun laws. It’s not as a result of our government. It’s as a result of our culture.

  • Frimp

    I see people are complaining about the Obama administration selling arms to other countries. Guess what, kids? Reagan’s administration sold arms to other countries, as well. In fact, they sold them to Iran! Yes, that’s right! The president that you worship as some sort of second messiah was complicit in the arming of the crazy Middle Eastern nation that we’re currently trying to stop from getting nuclear weapons.

    “Leftist cesspool?” Oh, honey. It’s called “politics.” You might want to wake up before your party goes and breaks your heart. Then again, maybe it’s better that you stay asleep. Keep dreaming that your idols are any different from the other guy’s.

  • shadow

    How much money are we going to divert from, say raiding medical marijuana clinics, to hunting down people with newly-outlawed 30 round magazines?

    The proposes bill being discussed does not “ban” people from owning the guns and accessories they already possess. Those are to be grandfathered. It merely bans future sales. What I would like to see is a list of precisely which weapons they have in mind, and not just some generic discription.

  • shadow

    There’s over 300 million guns? There are more guns in the country than there are people? Given that not everyone in the country owns a gun, that would be pretty incredible, if it were true.

    I don’t doubt it. Not everyone owns a gun, but the ones I know who do, more than make up for the ones I know who don’t.

  • shadow

    The criminals always can get their hands on weapons.

    It’s not about targeting crime. It’s about limiting the potential damage from rampage shooters.

  • shadow

    Isn’t it interesting that they can tell you there is no way to deport 30,000,000+ illegals (they can’t seem to find either) but by God they think they can find all the firearms in some way?

    They think?? Who is they?

  • bg


    shadow #35 December 27, 2012 at 9:07 pm


    okay, the Obama administration :aka: Government..


  • bg


    shadow #34 December 27, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    again, really??

    😯 😯 😯 😯 😯

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  • CW

    Wont come to every house and demand our guns and ammo? Does anyone remember New Orleans after Katrina? I recall seeing a video of Oklahoma national guard forcibly removing weapons from old people against the oath they swore. It was shot by newsmen and I think I saw it on Alex Jones website.

  • JH,

    The world is truly turned upside down. St. Louis County has a Police Chief that makes sense. How much longer before Charlie Doofus starts an investigation on how the County BOPC made such a mistake to hire someone sensible, before they make a bad habit of doing sensible things?

    I guess someone else now will tell me the Los Angeles Clippers are the toast of the NBA. Oh, wait…

  • Bobmark

    Court rulings have established two types of arms, idividually operated and solid firing are citizens arms, crew operated and shell firing are state (gov’t) arms. Rifles, handguns, shotguns citizen – cannon, mortar, machine gun state.